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+ <a href="">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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+ <div class="entry">
+ <div class="title">When web browser developers make a video player...</div>
+ <div class="date">2009-01-17 18:50</div>
+ <div class="body">
+<p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
+to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
+page with embedded video for easy access to the recording. Putting a
+good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
+browsers and across all operating systems is not easy. I hope this
+will become easier when the <video> tag is implemented in all
+browsers, but I am not sure. We provide the recordings in several
+formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
+browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
+recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
+There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
+<video> tag, the <object> tag, the <embed> tag and
+the <applet> tag. All of these take a lot of options, and
+finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
+
+<p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
+href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
+a <video> tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
+I was not very impressed. The browser start by fetching a picture
+from the video stream. Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
+definitely very early in the recording. So far, so good. Next,
+instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
+of it, but do not start to play the video. This mean I have to wait
+for several minutes for the downloading to finish. When the download
+is done, the playing of the video do not start! Waiting for the
+download, but I do not get to see the video? Some testing later, I
+discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
+to get a play button to pres to start the video. Adding
+autoplay="true" did not help. I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
+test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
+<video> tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
+playing when the download is done.</p>
+
+<p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
+from the nuug site</a>. Will have to test it with the new Firefox
+too.</p>
+
+<p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature. I was unable
+to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
+am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video. I
+sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
+</div>
+
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+
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+
+</ul>
+
+</div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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<ul>
-<li><a href="../../../archive/2009/01/">January (3)</a></li>
+<li><a href="../../../archive/2009/01/">January (4)</a></li>
</ul></li>
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- <li><a href="../../../tags/english">english (3)</a></li>
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<li><a href="../../../tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll (1)</a></li>
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+ <li><a href="../../../tags/video">video (2)</a></li>
- <li><a href="../../../tags/web">web (1)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../../tags/web">web (2)</a></li>
</ul>
<li>2009
<ul>
-<li><a href="../../../archive/2009/01/">January (3)</a></li>
+<li><a href="../../../archive/2009/01/">January (4)</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="../../../tags/debian edu">debian edu (3)</a></li>
- <li><a href="../../../tags/english">english (3)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../../tags/english">english (4)</a></li>
<li><a href="../../../tags/fiksgatami">fiksgatami (1)</a></li>
<li><a href="../../../tags/ltsp">ltsp (1)</a></li>
- <li><a href="../../../tags/multimedia">multimedia (1)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../../tags/multimedia">multimedia (2)</a></li>
<li><a href="../../../tags/norsk">norsk (12)</a></li>
- <li><a href="../../../tags/nuug">nuug (10)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../../tags/nuug">nuug (11)</a></li>
<li><a href="../../../tags/personvern">personvern (1)</a></li>
<li><a href="../../../tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll (1)</a></li>
- <li><a href="../../../tags/video">video (1)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../../tags/video">video (2)</a></li>
- <li><a href="../../../tags/web">web (1)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../../tags/web">web (2)</a></li>
</ul>
</description>
</item>
+ <item>
+ <title>When web browser developers make a video player...</title>
+ <link>../../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html</link>
+ <guid isPermaLink="true">../../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html</guid>
+ <pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:50:00 +0100</pubDate>
+ <description>
+<p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
+to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
+page with embedded video for easy access to the recording. Putting a
+good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
+browsers and across all operating systems is not easy. I hope this
+will become easier when the &lt;video&gt; tag is implemented in all
+browsers, but I am not sure. We provide the recordings in several
+formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
+browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
+recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
+There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
+&lt;video&gt; tag, the &lt;object&gt; tag, the &lt;embed&gt; tag and
+the &lt;applet&gt; tag. All of these take a lot of options, and
+finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
+
+<p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
+href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
+a &lt;video&gt; tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
+I was not very impressed. The browser start by fetching a picture
+from the video stream. Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
+definitely very early in the recording. So far, so good. Next,
+instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
+of it, but do not start to play the video. This mean I have to wait
+for several minutes for the downloading to finish. When the download
+is done, the playing of the video do not start! Waiting for the
+download, but I do not get to see the video? Some testing later, I
+discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
+to get a play button to pres to start the video. Adding
+autoplay="true" did not help. I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
+test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
+&lt;video&gt; tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
+playing when the download is done.</p>
+
+<p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
+from the nuug site</a>. Will have to test it with the new Firefox
+too.</p>
+
+<p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature. I was unable
+to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
+am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video. I
+sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
+</description>
+ </item>
+
</channel>
</rss>
</div>
<div class="padding"></div>
+<div class="entry">
+ <div class="title">
+ <a href="../../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html">When web browser developers make a video player...</a>
+ </div>
+ <div class="date">
+ 2009-01-17 18:50
+ </div>
+
+ <div class="body">
+
+<p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
+to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
+page with embedded video for easy access to the recording. Putting a
+good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
+browsers and across all operating systems is not easy. I hope this
+will become easier when the <video> tag is implemented in all
+browsers, but I am not sure. We provide the recordings in several
+formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
+browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
+recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
+There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
+<video> tag, the <object> tag, the <embed> tag and
+the <applet> tag. All of these take a lot of options, and
+finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
+
+<p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
+href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
+a <video> tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
+I was not very impressed. The browser start by fetching a picture
+from the video stream. Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
+definitely very early in the recording. So far, so good. Next,
+instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
+of it, but do not start to play the video. This mean I have to wait
+for several minutes for the downloading to finish. When the download
+is done, the playing of the video do not start! Waiting for the
+download, but I do not get to see the video? Some testing later, I
+discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
+to get a play button to pres to start the video. Adding
+autoplay="true" did not help. I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
+test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
+<video> tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
+playing when the download is done.</p>
+
+<p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
+from the nuug site</a>. Will have to test it with the new Firefox
+too.</p>
+
+<p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature. I was unable
+to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
+am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video. I
+sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
+
+ </div>
+ <div class="tags">
+
+
+
+ Tags: <a href="../../../tags/english">english</a>, <a href="../../../tags/multimedia">multimedia</a>, <a href="../../../tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="../../../tags/video">video</a>, <a href="../../../tags/web">web</a>.
+
+ </div>
+</div>
+ <div class="padding"></div>
+
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-<li><a href="../../../archive/2009/01/">January (3)</a></li>
+<li><a href="../../../archive/2009/01/">January (4)</a></li>
</ul></li>
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- <li><a href="../../../tags/english">english (3)</a></li>
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<li><a href="../../../tags/ltsp">ltsp (1)</a></li>
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+ <li><a href="../../../tags/multimedia">multimedia (2)</a></li>
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- <li><a href="../../../tags/nuug">nuug (10)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../../tags/nuug">nuug (11)</a></li>
<li><a href="../../../tags/personvern">personvern (1)</a></li>
<li><a href="../../../tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll (1)</a></li>
- <li><a href="../../../tags/video">video (1)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../../tags/video">video (2)</a></li>
- <li><a href="../../../tags/web">web (1)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../../tags/web">web (2)</a></li>
</ul>
+ <div class="entry">
+ <div class="title"><a href="When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html">When web browser developers make a video player...</a></div>
+ <div class="date">2009-01-17 18:50</div>
+ <div class="body">
+<p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
+to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
+page with embedded video for easy access to the recording. Putting a
+good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
+browsers and across all operating systems is not easy. I hope this
+will become easier when the <video> tag is implemented in all
+browsers, but I am not sure. We provide the recordings in several
+formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
+browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
+recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
+There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
+<video> tag, the <object> tag, the <embed> tag and
+the <applet> tag. All of these take a lot of options, and
+finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
+
+<p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
+href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
+a <video> tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
+I was not very impressed. The browser start by fetching a picture
+from the video stream. Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
+definitely very early in the recording. So far, so good. Next,
+instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
+of it, but do not start to play the video. This mean I have to wait
+for several minutes for the downloading to finish. When the download
+is done, the playing of the video do not start! Waiting for the
+download, but I do not get to see the video? Some testing later, I
+discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
+to get a play button to pres to start the video. Adding
+autoplay="true" did not help. I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
+test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
+<video> tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
+playing when the download is done.</p>
+
+<p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
+from the nuug site</a>. Will have to test it with the new Firefox
+too.</p>
+
+<p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature. I was unable
+to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
+am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video. I
+sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
+</div>
+ <div class="tags">
+
+
+
+ Tags: <a href="tags/english">english</a>, <a href="tags/multimedia">multimedia</a>, <a href="tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="tags/video">video</a>, <a href="tags/web">web</a>.
+
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ <div class="padding"></div>
+
<div class="entry">
<div class="title"><a href="Fiksgatami_begynner____ta_form.html">Fiksgatami begynner å ta form</a></div>
<div class="date">2009-01-15 23:15</div>
</div>
<div class="padding"></div>
- <div class="entry">
- <div class="title"><a href="Mekanikk_delen_av_reprap_byggesettet_p___vei.html">Mekanikk-delen av reprap-byggesettet på vei</a></div>
- <div class="date">2008-12-02 12:00</div>
- <div class="body">
-<p>Endelig fikk jeg beskjed om at mekanikkbyggesettet er sendt fra
-England. Jeg kan følge pakkens bevegelser via web, og den er nå
-kommet fram til tollen i London. Da bør jeg ha den i hus om noen
-dager, hvis alt går bra.</p>
-
-<p>Elekronikkbyggesettet ser det derimot dårligere ut for. Rette
-vedkommende i USA er på ferie, så jeg har ikke fått noe tilbakemelding
-på hvordan jeg får ordnet opp i kaoset posten etterlot da de rotet
-bort første pakke.</p>
-</div>
- <div class="tags">
-
-
-
- Tags: <a href="tags/3d-printer">3d-printer</a>, <a href="tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="tags/reprap">reprap</a>.
-
- </div>
- </div>
- <div class="padding"></div>
-
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+<li><a href="archive/2009/01/">January (4)</a></li>
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<li><a href="tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll (1)</a></li>
- <li><a href="tags/video">video (1)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="tags/video">video (2)</a></li>
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+ <item>
+ <title>When web browser developers make a video player...</title>
+ <link>When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html</link>
+ <guid isPermaLink="true">When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html</guid>
+ <pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:50:00 +0100</pubDate>
+ <description>
+<p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
+to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
+page with embedded video for easy access to the recording. Putting a
+good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
+browsers and across all operating systems is not easy. I hope this
+will become easier when the &lt;video&gt; tag is implemented in all
+browsers, but I am not sure. We provide the recordings in several
+formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
+browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
+recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
+There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
+&lt;video&gt; tag, the &lt;object&gt; tag, the &lt;embed&gt; tag and
+the &lt;applet&gt; tag. All of these take a lot of options, and
+finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
+
+<p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
+href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
+a &lt;video&gt; tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
+I was not very impressed. The browser start by fetching a picture
+from the video stream. Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
+definitely very early in the recording. So far, so good. Next,
+instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
+of it, but do not start to play the video. This mean I have to wait
+for several minutes for the downloading to finish. When the download
+is done, the playing of the video do not start! Waiting for the
+download, but I do not get to see the video? Some testing later, I
+discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
+to get a play button to pres to start the video. Adding
+autoplay="true" did not help. I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
+test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
+&lt;video&gt; tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
+playing when the download is done.</p>
+
+<p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
+from the nuug site</a>. Will have to test it with the new Firefox
+too.</p>
+
+<p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature. I was unable
+to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
+am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video. I
+sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
+</description>
+ </item>
+
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<title>Fiksgatami begynner å ta form</title>
<link>Fiksgatami_begynner____ta_form.html</link>
</description>
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- <guid isPermaLink="true">Mekanikk_delen_av_reprap_byggesettet_p___vei.html</guid>
- <pubDate>Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:00:00 +0100</pubDate>
- <description>
-<p>Endelig fikk jeg beskjed om at mekanikkbyggesettet er sendt fra
-England. Jeg kan følge pakkens bevegelser via web, og den er nå
-kommet fram til tollen i London. Da bør jeg ha den i hus om noen
-dager, hvis alt går bra.</p>
-
-<p>Elekronikkbyggesettet ser det derimot dårligere ut for. Rette
-vedkommende i USA er på ferie, så jeg har ikke fått noe tilbakemelding
-på hvordan jeg får ordnet opp i kaoset posten etterlot da de rotet
-bort første pakke.</p>
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- </item>
-
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+<li><a href="../../archive/2009/01/">January (4)</a></li>
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+<li><a href="../../archive/2009/01/">January (4)</a></li>
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+ <li><a href="../../tags/web">web (2)</a></li>
</ul>
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<ul>
-<li><a href="../../archive/2009/01/">January (3)</a></li>
+<li><a href="../../archive/2009/01/">January (4)</a></li>
</ul></li>
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- <li><a href="../../tags/english">english (3)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../tags/english">english (4)</a></li>
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<li><a href="../../tags/ltsp">ltsp (1)</a></li>
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+ <li><a href="../../tags/multimedia">multimedia (2)</a></li>
<li><a href="../../tags/norsk">norsk (12)</a></li>
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- <li><a href="../../tags/web">web (1)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../tags/web">web (2)</a></li>
</ul>
</description>
</item>
+ <item>
+ <title>When web browser developers make a video player...</title>
+ <link>../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html</link>
+ <guid isPermaLink="true">../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html</guid>
+ <pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:50:00 +0100</pubDate>
+ <description>
+<p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
+to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
+page with embedded video for easy access to the recording. Putting a
+good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
+browsers and across all operating systems is not easy. I hope this
+will become easier when the &lt;video&gt; tag is implemented in all
+browsers, but I am not sure. We provide the recordings in several
+formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
+browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
+recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
+There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
+&lt;video&gt; tag, the &lt;object&gt; tag, the &lt;embed&gt; tag and
+the &lt;applet&gt; tag. All of these take a lot of options, and
+finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
+
+<p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
+href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
+a &lt;video&gt; tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
+I was not very impressed. The browser start by fetching a picture
+from the video stream. Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
+definitely very early in the recording. So far, so good. Next,
+instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
+of it, but do not start to play the video. This mean I have to wait
+for several minutes for the downloading to finish. When the download
+is done, the playing of the video do not start! Waiting for the
+download, but I do not get to see the video? Some testing later, I
+discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
+to get a play button to pres to start the video. Adding
+autoplay="true" did not help. I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
+test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
+&lt;video&gt; tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
+playing when the download is done.</p>
+
+<p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
+from the nuug site</a>. Will have to test it with the new Firefox
+too.</p>
+
+<p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature. I was unable
+to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
+am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video. I
+sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
+</description>
+ </item>
+
</channel>
</rss>
</div>
</div>
+<div class="padding"></div>
+
+<div class="entry">
+ <div class="title">
+ <a href="../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html">When web browser developers make a video player...</a>
+ </div>
+ <div class="date">
+ 2009-01-17 18:50
+ </div>
+
+ <div class="body">
+
+<p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
+to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
+page with embedded video for easy access to the recording. Putting a
+good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
+browsers and across all operating systems is not easy. I hope this
+will become easier when the <video> tag is implemented in all
+browsers, but I am not sure. We provide the recordings in several
+formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
+browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
+recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
+There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
+<video> tag, the <object> tag, the <embed> tag and
+the <applet> tag. All of these take a lot of options, and
+finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
+
+<p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
+href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
+a <video> tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
+I was not very impressed. The browser start by fetching a picture
+from the video stream. Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
+definitely very early in the recording. So far, so good. Next,
+instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
+of it, but do not start to play the video. This mean I have to wait
+for several minutes for the downloading to finish. When the download
+is done, the playing of the video do not start! Waiting for the
+download, but I do not get to see the video? Some testing later, I
+discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
+to get a play button to pres to start the video. Adding
+autoplay="true" did not help. I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
+test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
+<video> tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
+playing when the download is done.</p>
+
+<p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
+from the nuug site</a>. Will have to test it with the new Firefox
+too.</p>
+
+<p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature. I was unable
+to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
+am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video. I
+sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
+
+ </div>
+ <div class="tags">
+
+
+
+ Tags: <a href="../../tags/english">english</a>, <a href="../../tags/multimedia">multimedia</a>, <a href="../../tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="../../tags/video">video</a>, <a href="../../tags/web">web</a>.
+
+ </div>
+</div>
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+<li><a href="../../archive/2009/01/">January (4)</a></li>
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+ <li><a href="../../tags/web">web (2)</a></li>
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+<div class="padding"></div>
+
+<div class="entry">
+ <div class="title">
+ <a href="../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html">When web browser developers make a video player...</a>
+ </div>
+ <div class="date">
+ 2009-01-17 18:50
+ </div>
+
+ <div class="body">
+
+<p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
+to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
+page with embedded video for easy access to the recording. Putting a
+good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
+browsers and across all operating systems is not easy. I hope this
+will become easier when the <video> tag is implemented in all
+browsers, but I am not sure. We provide the recordings in several
+formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
+browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
+recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
+There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
+<video> tag, the <object> tag, the <embed> tag and
+the <applet> tag. All of these take a lot of options, and
+finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
+
+<p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
+href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
+a <video> tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
+I was not very impressed. The browser start by fetching a picture
+from the video stream. Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
+definitely very early in the recording. So far, so good. Next,
+instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
+of it, but do not start to play the video. This mean I have to wait
+for several minutes for the downloading to finish. When the download
+is done, the playing of the video do not start! Waiting for the
+download, but I do not get to see the video? Some testing later, I
+discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
+to get a play button to pres to start the video. Adding
+autoplay="true" did not help. I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
+test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
+<video> tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
+playing when the download is done.</p>
+
+<p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
+from the nuug site</a>. Will have to test it with the new Firefox
+too.</p>
+
+<p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature. I was unable
+to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
+am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video. I
+sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
+
+ </div>
+ <div class="tags">
+
+
+
+ Tags: <a href="../../tags/english">english</a>, <a href="../../tags/multimedia">multimedia</a>, <a href="../../tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="../../tags/video">video</a>, <a href="../../tags/web">web</a>.
+
+ </div>
+</div>
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<li>2009
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-<li><a href="../../archive/2009/01/">January (3)</a></li>
+<li><a href="../../archive/2009/01/">January (4)</a></li>
</ul></li>
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- <li><a href="../../tags/english">english (3)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../tags/english">english (4)</a></li>
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+ <li><a href="../../tags/video">video (2)</a></li>
- <li><a href="../../tags/web">web (1)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../tags/web">web (2)</a></li>
</ul>
</description>
</item>
+ <item>
+ <title>When web browser developers make a video player...</title>
+ <link>../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html</link>
+ <guid isPermaLink="true">../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html</guid>
+ <pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:50:00 +0100</pubDate>
+ <description>
+<p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
+to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
+page with embedded video for easy access to the recording. Putting a
+good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
+browsers and across all operating systems is not easy. I hope this
+will become easier when the &lt;video&gt; tag is implemented in all
+browsers, but I am not sure. We provide the recordings in several
+formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
+browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
+recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
+There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
+&lt;video&gt; tag, the &lt;object&gt; tag, the &lt;embed&gt; tag and
+the &lt;applet&gt; tag. All of these take a lot of options, and
+finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
+
+<p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
+href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
+a &lt;video&gt; tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
+I was not very impressed. The browser start by fetching a picture
+from the video stream. Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
+definitely very early in the recording. So far, so good. Next,
+instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
+of it, but do not start to play the video. This mean I have to wait
+for several minutes for the downloading to finish. When the download
+is done, the playing of the video do not start! Waiting for the
+download, but I do not get to see the video? Some testing later, I
+discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
+to get a play button to pres to start the video. Adding
+autoplay="true" did not help. I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
+test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
+&lt;video&gt; tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
+playing when the download is done.</p>
+
+<p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
+from the nuug site</a>. Will have to test it with the new Firefox
+too.</p>
+
+<p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature. I was unable
+to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
+am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video. I
+sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
+</description>
+ </item>
+
</channel>
</rss>
<li>2009
<ul>
-<li><a href="../../archive/2009/01/">January (3)</a></li>
+<li><a href="../../archive/2009/01/">January (4)</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="../../tags/debian edu">debian edu (3)</a></li>
- <li><a href="../../tags/english">english (3)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../tags/english">english (4)</a></li>
<li><a href="../../tags/fiksgatami">fiksgatami (1)</a></li>
<li><a href="../../tags/ltsp">ltsp (1)</a></li>
- <li><a href="../../tags/multimedia">multimedia (1)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../tags/multimedia">multimedia (2)</a></li>
<li><a href="../../tags/norsk">norsk (12)</a></li>
- <li><a href="../../tags/nuug">nuug (10)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../tags/nuug">nuug (11)</a></li>
<li><a href="../../tags/personvern">personvern (1)</a></li>
<li><a href="../../tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll (1)</a></li>
- <li><a href="../../tags/video">video (1)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../tags/video">video (2)</a></li>
- <li><a href="../../tags/web">web (1)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../tags/web">web (2)</a></li>
</ul>
</div>
</div>
+<div class="padding"></div>
+
+<div class="entry">
+ <div class="title">
+ <a href="../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html">When web browser developers make a video player...</a>
+ </div>
+ <div class="date">
+ 2009-01-17 18:50
+ </div>
+
+ <div class="body">
+
+<p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
+to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
+page with embedded video for easy access to the recording. Putting a
+good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
+browsers and across all operating systems is not easy. I hope this
+will become easier when the <video> tag is implemented in all
+browsers, but I am not sure. We provide the recordings in several
+formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
+browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
+recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
+There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
+<video> tag, the <object> tag, the <embed> tag and
+the <applet> tag. All of these take a lot of options, and
+finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
+
+<p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
+href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
+a <video> tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
+I was not very impressed. The browser start by fetching a picture
+from the video stream. Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
+definitely very early in the recording. So far, so good. Next,
+instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
+of it, but do not start to play the video. This mean I have to wait
+for several minutes for the downloading to finish. When the download
+is done, the playing of the video do not start! Waiting for the
+download, but I do not get to see the video? Some testing later, I
+discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
+to get a play button to pres to start the video. Adding
+autoplay="true" did not help. I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
+test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
+<video> tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
+playing when the download is done.</p>
+
+<p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
+from the nuug site</a>. Will have to test it with the new Firefox
+too.</p>
+
+<p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature. I was unable
+to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
+am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video. I
+sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
+
+ </div>
+ <div class="tags">
+
+
+
+ Tags: <a href="../../tags/english">english</a>, <a href="../../tags/multimedia">multimedia</a>, <a href="../../tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="../../tags/video">video</a>, <a href="../../tags/web">web</a>.
+
+ </div>
+</div>
<div class="padding"></div>
<p style="text-align: right;"><a href="nuug.rss"><img src="../../xml.gif" alt="RSS Feed" width="36" height="14"></a></p>
<li>2009
<ul>
-<li><a href="../../archive/2009/01/">January (3)</a></li>
+<li><a href="../../archive/2009/01/">January (4)</a></li>
</ul></li>
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+ <item>
+ <title>When web browser developers make a video player...</title>
+ <link>../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html</link>
+ <guid isPermaLink="true">../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html</guid>
+ <pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:50:00 +0100</pubDate>
+ <description>
+<p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
+to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
+page with embedded video for easy access to the recording. Putting a
+good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
+browsers and across all operating systems is not easy. I hope this
+will become easier when the &lt;video&gt; tag is implemented in all
+browsers, but I am not sure. We provide the recordings in several
+formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
+browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
+recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
+There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
+&lt;video&gt; tag, the &lt;object&gt; tag, the &lt;embed&gt; tag and
+the &lt;applet&gt; tag. All of these take a lot of options, and
+finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
+
+<p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
+href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
+a &lt;video&gt; tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
+I was not very impressed. The browser start by fetching a picture
+from the video stream. Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
+definitely very early in the recording. So far, so good. Next,
+instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
+of it, but do not start to play the video. This mean I have to wait
+for several minutes for the downloading to finish. When the download
+is done, the playing of the video do not start! Waiting for the
+download, but I do not get to see the video? Some testing later, I
+discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
+to get a play button to pres to start the video. Adding
+autoplay="true" did not help. I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
+test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
+&lt;video&gt; tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
+playing when the download is done.</p>
+
+<p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
+from the nuug site</a>. Will have to test it with the new Firefox
+too.</p>
+
+<p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature. I was unable
+to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
+am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video. I
+sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
+</description>
+ </item>
+
</channel>
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-<li><a href="../../archive/2009/01/">January (3)</a></li>
+<li><a href="../../archive/2009/01/">January (4)</a></li>
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+<div class="padding"></div>
+
+<div class="entry">
+ <div class="title">
+ <a href="../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html">When web browser developers make a video player...</a>
+ </div>
+ <div class="date">
+ 2009-01-17 18:50
+ </div>
+
+ <div class="body">
+
+<p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
+to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
+page with embedded video for easy access to the recording. Putting a
+good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
+browsers and across all operating systems is not easy. I hope this
+will become easier when the <video> tag is implemented in all
+browsers, but I am not sure. We provide the recordings in several
+formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
+browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
+recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
+There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
+<video> tag, the <object> tag, the <embed> tag and
+the <applet> tag. All of these take a lot of options, and
+finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
+
+<p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
+href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
+a <video> tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
+I was not very impressed. The browser start by fetching a picture
+from the video stream. Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
+definitely very early in the recording. So far, so good. Next,
+instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
+of it, but do not start to play the video. This mean I have to wait
+for several minutes for the downloading to finish. When the download
+is done, the playing of the video do not start! Waiting for the
+download, but I do not get to see the video? Some testing later, I
+discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
+to get a play button to pres to start the video. Adding
+autoplay="true" did not help. I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
+test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
+<video> tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
+playing when the download is done.</p>
+
+<p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
+from the nuug site</a>. Will have to test it with the new Firefox
+too.</p>
+
+<p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature. I was unable
+to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
+am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video. I
+sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
+
+ </div>
+ <div class="tags">
+
+
+
+ Tags: <a href="../../tags/english">english</a>, <a href="../../tags/multimedia">multimedia</a>, <a href="../../tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="../../tags/video">video</a>, <a href="../../tags/web">web</a>.
+
+ </div>
+</div>
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+<li><a href="../../archive/2009/01/">January (4)</a></li>
</ul></li>
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+ <li><a href="../../tags/video">video (2)</a></li>
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+ <li><a href="../../tags/web">web (2)</a></li>
</ul>
</description>
</item>
+ <item>
+ <title>When web browser developers make a video player...</title>
+ <link>../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html</link>
+ <guid isPermaLink="true">../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html</guid>
+ <pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:50:00 +0100</pubDate>
+ <description>
+<p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
+to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
+page with embedded video for easy access to the recording. Putting a
+good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
+browsers and across all operating systems is not easy. I hope this
+will become easier when the &lt;video&gt; tag is implemented in all
+browsers, but I am not sure. We provide the recordings in several
+formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
+browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
+recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
+There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
+&lt;video&gt; tag, the &lt;object&gt; tag, the &lt;embed&gt; tag and
+the &lt;applet&gt; tag. All of these take a lot of options, and
+finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
+
+<p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
+href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
+a &lt;video&gt; tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
+I was not very impressed. The browser start by fetching a picture
+from the video stream. Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
+definitely very early in the recording. So far, so good. Next,
+instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
+of it, but do not start to play the video. This mean I have to wait
+for several minutes for the downloading to finish. When the download
+is done, the playing of the video do not start! Waiting for the
+download, but I do not get to see the video? Some testing later, I
+discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
+to get a play button to pres to start the video. Adding
+autoplay="true" did not help. I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
+test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
+&lt;video&gt; tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
+playing when the download is done.</p>
+
+<p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
+from the nuug site</a>. Will have to test it with the new Firefox
+too.</p>
+
+<p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature. I was unable
+to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
+am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video. I
+sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
+</description>
+ </item>
+
</channel>
</rss>
</div>
</div>
+<div class="padding"></div>
+
+<div class="entry">
+ <div class="title">
+ <a href="../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html">When web browser developers make a video player...</a>
+ </div>
+ <div class="date">
+ 2009-01-17 18:50
+ </div>
+
+ <div class="body">
+
+<p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
+to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
+page with embedded video for easy access to the recording. Putting a
+good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
+browsers and across all operating systems is not easy. I hope this
+will become easier when the <video> tag is implemented in all
+browsers, but I am not sure. We provide the recordings in several
+formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
+browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
+recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
+There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
+<video> tag, the <object> tag, the <embed> tag and
+the <applet> tag. All of these take a lot of options, and
+finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
+
+<p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
+href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
+a <video> tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
+I was not very impressed. The browser start by fetching a picture
+from the video stream. Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
+definitely very early in the recording. So far, so good. Next,
+instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
+of it, but do not start to play the video. This mean I have to wait
+for several minutes for the downloading to finish. When the download
+is done, the playing of the video do not start! Waiting for the
+download, but I do not get to see the video? Some testing later, I
+discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
+to get a play button to pres to start the video. Adding
+autoplay="true" did not help. I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
+test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
+<video> tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
+playing when the download is done.</p>
+
+<p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
+from the nuug site</a>. Will have to test it with the new Firefox
+too.</p>
+
+<p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature. I was unable
+to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
+am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video. I
+sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
+
+ </div>
+ <div class="tags">
+
+
+
+ Tags: <a href="../../tags/english">english</a>, <a href="../../tags/multimedia">multimedia</a>, <a href="../../tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="../../tags/video">video</a>, <a href="../../tags/web">web</a>.
+
+ </div>
+</div>
<div class="padding"></div>
<p style="text-align: right;"><a href="web.rss"><img src="../../xml.gif" alt="RSS Feed" width="36" height="14"></a></p>
<li>2009
<ul>
-<li><a href="../../archive/2009/01/">January (3)</a></li>
+<li><a href="../../archive/2009/01/">January (4)</a></li>
</ul></li>
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+ <li><a href="../../tags/multimedia">multimedia (2)</a></li>
<li><a href="../../tags/norsk">norsk (12)</a></li>
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+ <li><a href="../../tags/nuug">nuug (11)</a></li>
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<li><a href="../../tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll (1)</a></li>
- <li><a href="../../tags/video">video (1)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../tags/video">video (2)</a></li>
- <li><a href="../../tags/web">web (1)</a></li>
+ <li><a href="../../tags/web">web (2)</a></li>
</ul>
</description>
</item>
+ <item>
+ <title>When web browser developers make a video player...</title>
+ <link>../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html</link>
+ <guid isPermaLink="true">../../When_web_browser_developers_make_a_video_player___.html</guid>
+ <pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:50:00 +0100</pubDate>
+ <description>
+<p>As part of the work we do in <a href="http://www.nuug.no">NUUG</a>
+to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
+page with embedded video for easy access to the recording. Putting a
+good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
+browsers and across all operating systems is not easy. I hope this
+will become easier when the &lt;video&gt; tag is implemented in all
+browsers, but I am not sure. We provide the recordings in several
+formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
+browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
+recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
+There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
+&lt;video&gt; tag, the &lt;object&gt; tag, the &lt;embed&gt; tag and
+the &lt;applet&gt; tag. All of these take a lot of options, and
+finding the best options is a major challenge.</p>
+
+<p>I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from <a
+href="http://labs.opera.com">labs.opera.com</a>, to see how it handled
+a &lt;video&gt; tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
+I was not very impressed. The browser start by fetching a picture
+from the video stream. Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
+definitely very early in the recording. So far, so good. Next,
+instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
+of it, but do not start to play the video. This mean I have to wait
+for several minutes for the downloading to finish. When the download
+is done, the playing of the video do not start! Waiting for the
+download, but I do not get to see the video? Some testing later, I
+discover that I have to add the controls="true" attribute to be able
+to get a play button to pres to start the video. Adding
+autoplay="true" did not help. I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
+test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
+&lt;video&gt; tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
+playing when the download is done.</p>
+
+<p>The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
+<a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/">available
+from the nuug site</a>. Will have to test it with the new Firefox
+too.</p>
+
+<p>In the test process, I discovered a missing feature. I was unable
+to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
+am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video. I
+sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)</p>
+</description>
+ </item>
+
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