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1 Title: Debian Edu interview: Jürgen Leibner
2 Tags: english, debian edu, intervju
3 Date: 2012-05-13 20:30
4
5 <p>It has been a few busy weeks for me, but I am finally back to
6 publish another interview with the people behind
7 <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu and Skolelinux</a>.
8 This time it is one of our German developers, who have helped out over the
9 years to make sure both a lot of major but also a lot of the minor
10 details get right before release.
11
12 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?</strong></p>
13
14 <p>My name is Jürgen Leibner, I'm 49 years old and living in
15 Bielefeld, a town in northern Germany. I worked nearly 20 years as
16 certified engineer in the department for plant design and layout of an
17 international company for machinery and equipment. Since 2011 I'm a
18 certified technical writer (tekom e.V.) and doing technical
19 documentations for a steam turbine manufacturer. From April this year
20 I will manage the department of technical documentation at a
21 manufacturer of automation and assembly line engineering.</p>
22
23 <p>My first contact with linux was around 1993. Since that time I used
24 it at work and at home repeatedly but not exclusively as I do now at
25 home since 2006.</p>
26
27 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
28 project?</strong></p>
29
30 <p>Once a day in the early year of 2001 when I wanted to fetch my
31 daughter from primary school, there was a teacher sitting in the
32 middle of 20 old computers trying to boot them and he failed. I helped
33 him to get them booting. That was seen by the school director and she
34 asked me if I would like to manage that the school gets all that old
35 computers in use. I answered: "Yes".</p>
36
37 <p>Some weeks later every of the 10 classrooms had one computer
38 running Windows98. I began to collect old computers and equipment as
39 gifts and installed the first computer room with a peer-to-peer
40 network. I did my work at school without being payed in my spare time
41 and with a lot of fun. About one year later the school was connected
42 to Internet and a local area network was installed in the school
43 building. That was the time to have a server and I knew it must be a
44 Linux server to be able to fulfil all the wishes of the teachers and
45 being able to do this in a transparent and economic way, without extra
46 costs for things like licence and software. So I searched for a
47 school server system running under Linux and I found a couple of
48 people nearby who founded 'skolelinux.de'. It was the Skolelinux
49 prerelease 32 I first tried out for being used at the school. I
50 managed the IT of that school until the municipal authority took over
51 the IT management and centralised the services for all schools in
52 Bielefeld in December of 2006.</p>
53
54 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
55 Edu?</strong></p>
56
57 <p>When I'm looking back to the beginning, there were other advantages
58 for me as today.</p>
59
60 <p>In the past there were advantages like:</p>
61
62 <p><ul>
63
64 <li>I don't need to buy it so it generates no costs to the school as
65 they had little money to spent for computers and software.</li>
66
67 <li>It has a licence which grands all rights to use it without
68 cost.</li>
69
70 <li>It was more able to fit all requirements of a server system for
71 schools than a Microsoft server system, even if there are only Windows
72 clients because of it's preconfigured overall concept of being a
73 infrastructure solution and community for schools, not only a
74 server</li>
75
76 <li>I was able to configure the server to the needs of the
77 school.</li>
78
79 </ul></p>
80
81 <p>Today some of the advantages has been lost, changed or new ones
82 came up in this way:</p>
83
84 <p><ul>
85
86 <li>Most schools here do have money to buy hardware and software
87 now.</li>
88
89 <li>They are today mostly managed from central IT departments which
90 have own concepts which often do not fit to Debian Edu concepts
91 because they are to close to Microsoft ideology.</li>
92
93 <li>With the Squeeze version of Debian Edu which now uses GOsa² for
94 management I feel more able to manage the daily tasks than with the
95 interfaces used in the past.</li>
96
97 <li>It is more modular than in the past and fits even better to the
98 different needs.</li>
99
100 <li>The documentation is usable and gets better every day.</li>
101
102 <li>More people than ever before are using Debian Edu all over the
103 world and so the community, which is an very important part I think,
104 is sharing knowledge and minds.</li>
105
106 <li>Most, maybe all, of the technical requirements for schools are
107 solved today by Debian Edu. </li>
108
109 </ul></p>
110
111 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
112 Edu?</strong></p>
113
114 <p><ul>
115
116 <li>There are too few IT companies able to integrate Debian Edu into
117 their product portfolio for serving schools with concepts or even
118 whole municipality areas.</li>
119
120 <li>Debian Edu has beside other free and open software projects not
121 enough lobbyists which promote free and open software to
122 politicians.</li>
123
124 <li>Technically there are no disadvantages I'm aware of.</li>
125
126 </ul></p>
127
128 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?</strong></p>
129
130 <p>I use Debian stable on my home server and on my little desktop
131 computer. On my laptop I use Debian testing/sid. The applications I
132 use on my laptop and my desktop are Open/Libre-office, Iceweasel,
133 KMail, DigiKam, Amarok, Dolphin, okular and all the other programs I
134 need from the KDE environment. On console I use newsbeuter, mutt,
135 screen, irssi and all the other famous and useful tools.</p>
136
137 <p>My home server provides mail services with exim, dovecot, roundcube
138 and mutt over ssh on the console, file services with samba, NFS,
139 rsync, web services with apache, moinmoin-wiki, multimedia services
140 with gallery2 and mediatomb and database services with MySQL for me
141 and the whole family. I probably forgot something.</p>
142
143 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
144 get schools to use free software?</strong></p>
145
146 <p>I believe, we should provide concepts for IT companies to integrate
147 Debian Edu into their product portfolio with use cases for different
148 countries and areas all over the world.</p>