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23 <div class=
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24 <div class=
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2012</div>
25 <div class=
"body"><p><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a>
26 users are spread all across the globe. The second inteview after
27 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/2012/03/msg00001.html">the
28 Squeeze release
</a> was publised is with John Ingleby, a teacher and
29 long time Linux user in United Kingdom.
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31 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
33 <p>I teach ICT part time at the Rudolf Steiner School in Kings
34 Langley, near London, UK. Previously I worked as a technical
35 author/trainer while my children attended the school, and I also
36 contributed to the Schoolforge UK community with the aim of
37 encouraging UK schools to adopt free/open source software. Five or six
38 years ago we had about
50 schools interested in some way, but we
39 weren't able to convert many of them into sustainable
42 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
45 <p>Skolelinux had two representatives at an early Edubuntu meeting in
46 London which I attended. However at that time our school network had
47 just been installed using CentOS, LTSP
4 and GNOME. When LTSP
5 came
48 along we switched to Edubuntu thin client servers so now we have a
49 mixed environment which includes Windows PCs and student laptops, as
50 well as their MacBooks and iPads. However, the proprietary systems
51 have always been rather problematic, and we never built a GUI for the
52 LDAP server, so when I discovered Skolelinux is configured for all
53 these things we decided to try it.
</p>
55 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
58 <p>By far the biggest advantage is the Debian Edu community. Apart
59 from that I have always believed in the same "sustainable computing"
60 goals that Skolelinux is built on: installing Linux on computers which
61 would otherwise be thrown away, to provide a reliable, secure and
62 low-cost IT environment for schools. From my own experience I know
63 that a part-time person can teach and manage a network of about
25
64 Linux computers, but it would take much more of my time if we had
65 proprietary software everywhere.
</p>
67 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
70 <p>As a newcomer I'm just finding out who's who in the community and
71 how you're organised, and what your procedures are for dealing with
72 various things such as editing manual pages and so-on. The only
73 English language mailing list seems to be for developers as well as
74 users, so my inbox needs heavy pruning each day!
</p>
76 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
78 <p>Besides the software already mentioned at school we use Samba,
79 OpenLDAP, CUPS, Nagios and Dansguardian for the network, and on the
80 desktops we have LibreOffice, Firefox, GIMP and Inkscape. At home I
81 use Ubuntu and an Android
4 eePad Transformer (but I'm not sure if
84 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
85 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
87 <p>That's a tough question! For very many years UK schools installed
88 and taught only proprietary software, so that at the highest levels
89 the notion of "computer" means simply "proprietary office
90 applications". However, schools today are experiencing budget
91 constraints, and many are having to think hard about upgrading Windows
92 XP. At the same time, we have students showing teachers how to use
93 iPads, MacBooks and Android, so the choice of operating system is no
94 longer quite so automatic. What is more, our government at last
95 realised that we need people with programming skills, so they're
96 putting coding back in the curriculum! And it's encouraging that the
97 first
10,
000 Raspberry Pi units sold out in
2 hours.
</p>
99 <p>I don't really know what strategy is going to get UK schools to use
100 free software, but building an active community of Skolelinux/Debian
101 Edu users in this country has to be part of it.
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104 <div class=
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