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23 <div class=
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24 <div class=
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2014</div>
25 <div class=
"body"><p>The complete and free “out of the box” software solution for
26 schools,
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu /
27 Skolelinux
</a>, is used quite a lot in Germany, and one of the people
28 involved is Bernd Zeitzen, who show up on the project mailing lists
29 from time to time with interesting questions and tips on how to adjust
30 the setup. I managed to interview him this summer.
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32 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
34 <p>My name is Bernd Zeitzen and I'm married with Hedda, a self
35 employed physiotherapist. My former profession is tool maker, but I
36 haven't worked for
30 years in this job.
30 years ago I started to
37 support my wife and become her officeworker and a few years later the
38 administrator for a small computer network, today based on Ubuntu
39 Server (Samba, OpenVPN). For her daily work she has to use Windows
40 Desktops because the software she needs to organize her business only
41 works with Windows . :-(
</p>
43 <p>In
1988 we started with one PC and DOS, then I learned to use
44 Windows
98,
2000, XP, …,
8, Ubuntu, MacOSX. Today we are running a
45 Linux server with
6 Windows clients and
10 persons (teacher of
46 children with special needs, speech therapist, occupational therapist,
47 psychologist and officeworkers) using our Samba shares via OpenVPN to
48 work with the documentations of our patients.
</p>
50 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
53 <p>Two years ago a friend of mine asked me, if I want to get a job in
54 his school (
<a href=
"http://www.gymnasium-harsewinkel.de/">Gymnasium
55 Harsewinkel
</a>). They started with Skolelinux / Debian Edu and they
56 were looking for people to give support to the teachers using the
57 software and the network and teaching the pupils increasing their
58 computer skills in optional lessons. I'm spending
4-
6 hours a week
61 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
64 <p>The independence.
</p>
66 <p>First: Every person is allowed to use, share and develop the
67 software. Even if you are poor, you are allowed to use the software
68 included in Skolelinux/Debian Edu and all the other Free Software.
</p>
70 <p>Second: The software runs on old machines and this gives us the
71 possibility to recycle computers, weeded out from offices. The
72 servers and desktops are running for more than two years and they are
73 working reliable.
</p>
75 <p>We have two servers (one tjener and one terminal server),
45
76 workstations in three classrooms and seven laptops as a mobile
77 solution for all classrooms. These machines are all booting from the
78 terminal server. In the moment we are installing
30 laptops as mobile
79 workstations. Then the pupils have the possibility to work with these
80 machines in their classrooms. Internet access is realized by a WLAN
81 router, connected to the schools network. This is all done without a
82 dedicated system administrator or a computer science teacher.
</p>
84 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
87 <p>Teachers and pupils are Windows users.
<Irony on
> And Linux
88 isn't cool. It's software for freaks using the command line.
<Irony
89 off
> They don't realize the stability of the system.
</p>
91 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
93 <p>Firefox, Thunderbird, LibreOffice, Ubuntu Server
12.04 (Samba,
94 Apache, MySQL, Joomla!, … and Skolelinux / Debian Edu)
</p>
96 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
97 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
99 <p>In Germany we have the situation: every school is free to decide
100 which software they want to use. This decision is influenced by
101 teachers who learned to use Windows and MS Office. They buy a PC with
102 Windows preinstalled and an additional testing version of MS
103 Office. They don't know about the possibility to use Free Software
104 instead. Another problem are the publisher of school books. They
105 develop their software, added to the school books, for Windows.
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592 <li><a href=
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594 <li><a href=
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20)
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618 <li><a href=
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620 <li><a href=
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11)
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3)
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1)
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2)
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678 <li><a href=
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80)
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14)
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65)
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692 <li><a href=
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6)
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694 <li><a href=
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2)
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696 <li><a href=
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698 <li><a href=
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23)
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700 <li><a href=
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82)
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702 <li><a href=
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704 <li><a href=
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