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  14      <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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  23       <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gladoppslag_om_Skolelinux_i_avisen_Fremover.html">Gladoppslag om Skolelinux i avisen Fremover</a></div>
  24       <div class="date">15th August 2012</div>
  25       <div class="body"><p>I sommer hadde avisen <a href="http://www.fremover.no/">Fremover</a>
  26 et flott oppslag om bruken av
  27 <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux</a> på alle skolene
  28 der.  Artikkelen var på trykk på side 4 og 5 i papirutgaven
  29 2012-07-23, men mangler dessverre i nettutgaven av avisen.  Mine
  30 henvendelser til avisen for å få artikkelen på nett har så langt ikke
  31 vært vellykket.</p>
  32
  33 <p>Artikkelen med tittelen "Narvik kommune bruker gratisprogram i
  34 skolen - Har spart millioner", forteller om hvordan bruken av
  35 Skolelinux er en stor suksess i Narvik siden det ble tatt i bruk i
  36 2004.  Her er noen fine sitater:</p>
  37
  38 <blockquote>
  39 "- Skolelinux har spart kommunen for store pengesummer, millionbeløp,
  40   som de heller kan bruke på andre ting, sier IKT-konsulent Viggo
  41   Fedreheim."
  42 </blockquote>
  43
  44 <p>Avisen forteller at de har fått tilgang til beregninger som viser
  45 at Narvik kommune har spart noe mellom 10 og 20 millioner kroner de
  46 siste 8 årene på å bruke Skolelinux, og fortsetter:</p>
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  48 <blockquote>
  49
  50 "Regnestykket tar høyde for sparte kostnader til lisenser som medfølger
  51 de alternative operativsystemene, lavere driftskostnader og lengre
  52 levetid på datautstyret.  Totalt har Narvikskolen en maskinpark på
  53 1600 maskiner fordelt på de 11 skolene fra Skjomen i sør til Bjerkvik
  54 i nord."
  55
  56 </blockquote>
  57
  58 <p>Viggo Fedreheim sier dette om hvor noe av gevinsten kommer fra:</p>
  59
  60 <blockquote>
  61 "- Vi kan gjenbruke gamle maskiner i skolen som er for dårlig andre
  62   steder i kommunen der de ikke bruker Skolelinux.  Levetiden på en
  63   datamaskin blir 3-5 år lenger med Skolelinux.  Vi kaller det for
  64   grønn IT, miljøvennlig IT."
  65 </blockquote>
  66
  67 <p>Her er det mulighet for flere kommuner å få et godt IT-system på
  68 skolene, hvis de er villige til å forsøke.  De som ikke har kompetanse
  69 innomhus kan kjøpe det fra en av de kommersielle leverandørene av
  70 Skolelinux-tjenester, som <a href="http://www.slxdrift.no/">Skolelinux
  71 Drift AS</a> (der jeg er styremedlem).  Komplett liste er tilgjengelig
  72 via
  73 <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Help/ProfessionalHelp">wikien</a>.</p>
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  78         Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>.
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  86       <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Notes_on_language_codes_for_Norwegian_docbook_processing___.html">Notes on language codes for Norwegian docbook processing...</a></div>
  87       <div class="date">10th August 2012</div>
  88       <div class="body"><p>In <a href="http://www.docbook.org/">docbook</a> one can specify
  89 the language used at the top, and the processing pipeline will use
  90 this information to pick the correct translations for 'chapter', 'see
  91 also', 'index' etc.  And for most languages used with docbook, I guess
  92 this work just fine.  For example a German user can start the document
  93 with &lt;book lang="de"&gt;, and the document will show up with the
  94 correct content with any of the docbook processors.  This is not the
  95 case for the language
  96 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Free_Culture_in_Norwegian___5_chapters_done__74_percent_left_to_do.html">I
  97 am working with at the moment</a>, Norwegian Bokmål.</p>
  98
  99 <p>For a while, I was confused about which language code to use,
 100 because I was unable to find any language code that would work across
 101 all tools.  I am currently testing dblatex, xmlto, docbook-xsl, and
 102 dbtoepub, and they do not handle Norwegian Bokmål the same way.  Some
 103 of them do not handle it at all.</p>
 104
 105 <p>A bit of background information is probably needed to understand
 106 this mess.  Norwegian is not one, but two written variants.  The
 107 variants are Norwegian Nynorsk and Norwegian Bokmål.  There are three
 108 two letter language codes associated with these languages, Norwegian
 109 is 'no', Norwegian Nynorsk is 'nn' and Norwegian Bokmål is 'nb'.
 110 Historically the 'no' language code was used for Norwegian Bokmål, but
 111 many years ago this was found to be å bad idea, and the recommendation
 112 is to use the most specific language code instead, to avoid confusion.
 113 In the transition period it is a good idea to make sure 'no' was an
 114 alias for 'nb'.</p>
 115
 116 <p>Back to docbook processing tools in Debian.  The dblatex tool only
 117 understand 'nn'.  There are translations for 'no', but not 'nb' (BTS
 118 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/684391">#684391</a>), but due to a bug
 119 (BTS <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/682936">#682936</a>) the 'no'
 120 language code is not recognised.  The docbook-xsl tool chain only
 121 recognise 'nn' and 'nb', but not 'no'.  The xmlto tool only recognise
 122 'nn' and 'nb', but not 'no'.  The end result that there is no language
 123 code I can use to get the docbook file working with all of these tools
 124 at the same time. :(</p>
 125
 126 <p>The correct solution is to use &lt;book lang="nb"&gt;, but it will
 127 take time before that will work with all the free software docbook
 128 processors. :(</p>
 129
 130 <p>Oh, the joy of well integrated tools. :/</p>
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 135         Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
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 143       <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Best_way_to_create_a_docbook_book_.html">Best way to create a docbook book?</a></div>
 144       <div class="date">31st July 2012</div>
 145       <div class="body"><p>I tried to send this text to the
 146 <a href="https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/">docbook-apps
 147 mailing list at lists.oasis-open.org</a>, but it only accept messages
 148 from subscribers and rejected my post, and I completely lack the
 149 bandwidth required to subscribe to another mailing list, so instead I
 150 try to post my message here and hope my blog readers can help me
 151 out.</p>
 152
 153 <p>I am quite new to docbook processing, and am climbing a steep
 154 learning curve at the moment.</p>
 155
 156 <p>To give you some background, I am working on a Norwegian
 157 translation of the book Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig, and I use
 158 docbook to handle the process.  The files to build the book are
 159 available from
 160 <a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">github</a>.
 161 The book got around 400 pages with parts, images, footnotes, tables,
 162 index entries etc, which has proven to be a challenge for the free
 163 software docbook processors.  My build platform is Debian GNU/Linux
 164 Squeeze.</p>
 165
 166 <p>I want to build PDF, EPUB and HTML version of the book, and have
 167 tried different tool chains to do the conversion from docbook to these
 168 formats.  I am currently focusing on the PDF version, and have a few
 169 problems.</p>
 170
 171 <ul>
 172
 173 <li>Using dblatex, the &lt;part&gt; handling is not the way I want to,
 174    as &lt;/part&gt; do not really end the &lt;part&gt;. (See
 175    <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/683166">BTS report #683166</a>), the
 176    xetex backend (needed to process UTF-8) give incorrect hyphens in
 177    index references spanning several pages (See
 178    <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/682901">BTS report #682901</a>), and
 179    I am unable to get the norwegian template texts (See
 180    <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/682936">BTS report #682936</a>).</li>
 181
 182 <li>Using straight xmlto fail with some latex error (See
 183    <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/683163">BTS report
 184    #683163</a>).</li>
 185
 186 <li>Using xmlto with the fop backend fail to handle images (do not
 187    show up in the PDF), fail to handle a long footnote (overlap
 188    footnote and text body, see
 189    <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/683197">BTS report #683197</a>), and
 190    fail to create a correct index (some lack page ref, and the page
 191    refs listed are not right).</li>
 192
 193 <li>Using xmlto with the dblatex backend behave like dblatex.</li>
 194
 195 <li>Using docbook-xls with xsltproc + fop have the same footnote and
 196    index problems the xmlto + fop processing.</li>
 197
 198 </ul>
 199
 200 <p>So I wonder, what would be the best way to create the PDF version
 201 of this book?  Are some of the bugs found above solved in new or
 202 experimental versions of some docbook tool chain?</p>
 203
 204 <p>What about HTML and EPUB versions?</p>
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 209         Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
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 217       <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/OOXML_og_standardisering.html">OOXML og standardisering</a></div>
 218       <div class="date">25th July 2012</div>
 219       <div class="body"><p>DIFI har
 220 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/DIFI_foresl_r___kaste_ut_ODF_og_ta_inn_OOXML_fra_statens_standardkatalog.html">en
 221 høring gående</a> om ny versjon av statens standardkatalog, med frist
 222 2012-09-30, der det foreslås å fjerne ODF fra katalogen og ta inn ISO
 223 OOXML.  I den anledning minnes jeg
 224 <a href="http://www.regjeringen.no/upload/FAD/Vedlegg/IKT-politikk/Refkat_v2.pdf">notatet
 225 FAD skrev</a> da versjon 2 av standardkatalogen var under
 226 utarbeidelse, da FAD og DIFI fortsatt forsto poenget med og verdien av
 227 frie og åpne standarder.</p>
 228
 229 <p>Det er mange som tror at OOXML er ett spesifikt format, men det
 230 brukes ofte som fellesbetegnelse for både formatet spesifisert av
 231 ECMA, ISO, og formatet produsert av Microsoft Office (aka docx), som
 232 dessverre ikke er det samme formatet.  Fra en av de som implementerte
 233 støtte for docx-formatet i KDE fikk jeg høre at ISO-spesifikasjonen
 234 var en nyttig referanse, men at det var mange avvik som gjorde at en
 235 ikke kunne gå ut ifra at Microsoft Office produserte dokumenter i
 236 henhold til ISO-spesifikasjonen.</p>
 237
 238 <p>ISOs OOXML-spesifikasjon har (eller hadde, usikker på om
 239 kommentaren er oppdatert) i følge
 240 <a href="http://surguy.net/articles/ooxml-validation-and-technical-review.xml">Inigo
 241 Surguy</a> feil i mer enn 10% av eksemplene, noe som i tillegg gjør
 242 det vanskelig å bruke spesifikasjonen til å implementere støtte for
 243 ISO OOXML.  Jeg har ingen erfaring med å validere OOXML-dokumenter
 244 selv, men ser at
 245 <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5124">Microsoft
 246 har laget en validator</a> som jeg ikke kan teste da den kun er
 247 tilgjengelig på MS Windows.  Finner også en annen kalt
 248 <a href="http://code.google.com/p/officeotron/">Office-O-Tron</A> som
 249 er oppdatert i fjor.  Lurer på om de validerer at dokumenter er i
 250 formatet til Microsoft office, eller om de validerer at de er i
 251 henhold til formatene spesifisert av ECMA og ISO. Det hadde også vært
 252 interessant å se om docx-dokumentene publisert av det offentlige er
 253 gyldige ISO OOXML-dokumenter.</p>
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 258         Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard</a>.
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 266       <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Free_Culture_in_Norwegian___5_chapters_done__74_percent_left_to_do.html">Free Culture in Norwegian - 5 chapters done, 74 percent left to do</a></div>
 267       <div class="date">21st July 2012</div>
 268       <div class="body"><p>I reported earlier that I am working on
 269 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html">a
 270 norwegian version</a> of the book
 271 <a href="http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture</a> by Lawrence Lessig.
 272 Progress is good, and yesterday I got a major contribution from Anders
 273 Hagen Jarmund completing chapter six.  The source files as well as a
 274 PDF and EPUB version of this book are available from
 275 <a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">github</a>.</p>
 276
 277 <p>I am happy to report that the draft for the first two chapters
 278 (preface, introduction) is complete, and three other chapters are also
 279 completely translated.  This completes 26 percent of the number of
 280 strings (equivalent to paragraphs) in the book, and there is thus 74
 281 percent left to translate.  A graph of the progress is present at the
 282 bottom of the github project page.  There is still room for more
 283 contributors.  Get in touch or send github pull requests with fixes if
 284 you got time and are willing to help make this book make it to
 285 print. :)</p>
 286
 287 <p>The book translation framework could also be a good basis for other
 288 translations, if you want the book to be available in your
 289 language.</p>
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 294         Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett</a>.
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 302       <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Tips_for___bli_med_i_Skolelinux_prosjektet__som_faktisk_er_aktivt_.html">Tips for å bli med i Skolelinux-prosjektet (som faktisk er aktivt)</a></div>
 303       <div class="date">19th July 2012</div>
 304       <div class="body"><p>Jeg fikk nettopp spørsmål på epost om Skolelinux-prosjektet lever
 305 fra en som var interessert i å bidra, og måtte jo konstatere at i og
 306 med at spørsmålet ble stilt har prosjektet ikke lyktes med å formidle
 307 sin aktivitet.  Her er det jeg svarte:</p>
 308
 309 <p><blockquote>
 310 <p>Jada, <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux-prosjektet</a>
 311 lever, men det meste av utvikling foregår nå under paraplyen
 312 <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/">Debian Edu</a> som er det
 313 internasjonale navnet på prosjektet.  Dugnaden i Norge organiseres av
 314 medlemsforeningen
 315 <a href="http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">Fri programvare i
 316 Skolen</a>, og det finnes minst ett selskap som selger kommersiell
 317 support på løsningen (<a href="http://www.slxdrift.no/">Skolelinux
 318 Drift AS</a>, der jeg er styremedlem).  Anbefaler at du melder deg på
 319 epostlisten
 320 <a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/">debian-edu@lists.debian.org</a>
 321 (og debian-edu-announce) og
 322 <a href="http://medlem.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">melder deg inn i
 323 foreningen</a> for å få beskjed om aktivitet som planlegges.  Det
 324 planlegges
 325 <a href="http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/Gathering">utviklersamlinger
 326 i august</a> og utover høsten.</p>
 327
 328 <p>Bidra gjerne med å spre ordet om Skolelinux.  Det er alt for få som
 329 bidrar til pressedekning, bloggposter, twittermeldinger, etc. :)</p>
 330
 331 <p>Jeg antar du har funnet
 332 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju/">bloggserien
 333 min med intervjuer</a>.  Det er antagelig også interessant for deg å
 334 følge med på <a href="http://planet.skolelinux.org/">Planet
 335 Skolelinux</a>.</p>
 336
 337 <p>Hm, jeg burde vel blogge alle disse lenkene slik at de blir enklere
 338 å finne...</p>
 339 </blockquote></p>
 340 <p>Herved gjort. :)</p>
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 345         Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>.
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 353       <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Call_for_help_from_docbook_expert_to_tag_Free_Culture_by_Lawrence_Lessig.html">Call for help from docbook expert to tag Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig</a></div>
 354       <div class="date">16th July 2012</div>
 355       <div class="body"><p>I am currently working on a
 356 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html">project
 357 to translate</a> the book
 358 <a href="http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture</a> by Lawrence Lessig
 359 to Norwegian.  And the source we base our translation on is the
 360 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DocBook">docbook</a> version, to
 361 allow us to use po4a and .po files to handle the translation, and for
 362 this to work well the docbook source document need to be properly
 363 tagged.  The source files of this project is available from
 364 <a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">github</a>.</p>
 365
 366 <p>The problem is that the docbook source have flaws, and we have
 367 no-one involved in the project that is a docbook expert.  Is there a
 368 docbook expert somewhere that is interested in helping us create a
 369 well tagged docbook version of the book, and adjust our build process
 370 for the PDF, EPUB and HTML version of the book?  This will provide a
 371 well tagged English version (our source document), and make it a lot
 372 easier for us to create a good Norwegian version.  If you can and want
 373 to help, please get in touch with me or fork the github project and
 374 send pull requests with fixes. :)</p>
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 379         Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett</a>.
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 387       <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Fri_programvare____fri__som_i__talefrihet___ikke_som_i__fri_bar_.html">Fri programvare - "fri" som i "talefrihet", ikke som i "fri bar"</a></div>
 388       <div class="date">15th July 2012</div>
 389       <div class="body"><p>Et ofte brukt sitat i fri programvareverden er Stallman-sitatet
 390 «<a href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html.en">Free Software,
 391 "free" as in "free speech", not as in "free beer"</a>».  Men det er
 392 ikke direkte overførbart til norsk, da det baserer seg på koblingen
 393 gratis/fri på engelsk.  En direkte oversettelse ville være «Fri
 394 programvare, "fri" som i "talefrihet", ikke som "gratis øl"», og det
 395 går jo glipp av poenget.  I forbindelse med at vi er
 396 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html">igang
 397 med å oversette</a> <a href="http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture</a>
 398 av Lawrence Lessig, måtte jeg forsøke a finne en bedre
 399 oversettelse.</p>
 400
 401 <p>Mitt forslag til oversettelse blir dermed å droppe ølet, og heller
 402 fokusere på det kjente norske uttrykket "fri bar".  Dermed blir
 403 oversettelsen «Fri programvare - "fri" som i "talefrihet", ikke som i
 404 "fri bar"».</p>
 405
 406 <p>Noen som har bedre forslag?</p>
 407
 408 <p>Forøvrig bruker jeg fri programvare som et samlebegrep på norsk for
 409 begge de engelske uttrykkene Free Software og Open Source, jamfør
 410 <a href="http://www.nuug.no/dokumenter/folder-friprogramvare.pdf">NUUGs
 411 lille folder om temaet</a>.</p>
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 416         Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
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 424       <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html">Dugnad for å sende norsk versjon av Free Culture til stortingets representanter!</a></div>
 425       <div class="date">11th July 2012</div>
 426       <div class="body"><p>Da opphavsrettsloven ble revidert i forrige runde rundt 2005, var
 427 det skummelt å se hvor lite stortingsrepresentantene forsto hvordan
 428 Internet påvirket folks forhold til kulturuttrykk, og min venn Vidar
 429 og jeg spekulert på at det hadde kanskje vært fornuftig om samtlige
 430 representanter fikk en norsk utgave av boken
 431 <a href="http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture</a> av Lawrence Lessig
 432 som forklarte litt om problemstillingene.  Vi endte opp med å
 433 prioritere utvikling i
 434 <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux</a>-prosjektet i
 435 stedet, så den oversatte boken så aldri dagens lys.  Men i forrige uke
 436 ble jeg inspirert til å ta opp tråden og se om det er mulig å få til
 437 bokprosjektet denne gang, da det er tydelig at kulturdepartementet i
 438 sitt nye forsøk på å gjøre opphavsrettsloven enda mer ubalansert til
 439 fordel for forlag og store mediehus fortsatt trenger en annen vinkling
 440 i debatten.</p>
 441
 442 <p>Planen min er å oversette boka på dugnad, sette den opp for
 443 trykking med en av de mange
 444 <a href="http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trykk_på_forespørsel">trykk på
 445 forespørsel</a>-tjenestene, skaffe sponsor til å finansiere trykking
 446 til stortingsrepresentantene og alle som har bidratt med
 447 oversettelser.  Kanskje vi også kan få en avtale med et forlag om
 448 publisering når boka er ferdig?  Kommentarene til
 449 <a href="http://newth.net/eirik/2011/04/01/e-selvpublisering/">Eirik
 450 Newth</a> og
 451 <a href="http://www.espen.com/norskblogg/archives/2008/09/erfaringer_med_publishing_on_demand.html">Espen
 452 Andersen</a> om erfaringene med selvpublisering og trykk på
 453 forespørsel er interessante og ikke avskrekkende, og jeg mistenker at
 454 <a href="http://www.lulu.com/">Lulu</a> er en grei leverandør av
 455 trykketjenester til prosjektet.</p>
 456
 457 <p>Jeg har satt opp
 458 <a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">et
 459 Github-prosjekt</a> for a lage boken, basert på Docbook-utgaven jeg
 460 fant fra Hans Schou.  Skolelinux har hatt byggesystem for å lage
 461 oversatt HTML og PDF-utgave av Docbook-bøker i en årrekke, så jeg har
 462 kopiert og utvidet dette oppsettet.  Originalteksten er i Docbook, og
 463 oversettelsen gjøres i .po-filer med hjelp av vanlige
 464 oversetterverktøy brukt i fri programvareverden.  Dernest tar
 465 byggesystemet over og lager PDF og EPUB-utgave av den oversatte
 466 teksten.  Resultatet kan ses i Github-prosjektet.  For å komme raskt
 467 igang har jeg brukt maskinoversettelse av alle tekstbitene fra engelsk
 468 til norsk, noe som grovoversatte ca. 1300 av de ca. 1700 tekstbitene
 469 boken består av.  Jeg håper nå at flere kan bidra med å få
 470 oversettelsen på plass, slik at teksten kan være klar i løpet av
 471 høsten.  Når alt er oversatt må teksten gjennomgås for feil og
 472 konsistent språk.  Totalt er det nok mange timer som trengs for å
 473 gjennomføre oversettelsen.</p>
 474
 475 <p>Økonomien i dette er ikke avskrekkende.  169
 476 stortingsrepresentanter og nesten like mange varamedlemmer bør få
 477 bøker, og estimert produduksjonskostnad for hver bok er rundt 6 EURO i
 478 følge et raskt estimat fra Lulu.  Jeg vet ennå ikke hvor mange sider
 479 det blir i størrelsen 5,5" x 8.5" (det er ca. 140 sider i A4-format),
 480 så jeg gjettet på 400 sider.  Jeg tror originalutgaven har nesten 400
 481 sider.  For 169*2 eksemplarer snakker vi om en trykkekostnad på
 482 ca. 2000 EURO, dvs. ca 15 000 NOK.  Det burde være mulig å finne en
 483 sponsor for å dekke en slik sum.  I tillegg kommer distribusjon og
 484 porto, som antagelig kommer på like mye.</p>
 485
 486 <p>Kan du bidra med oversettelse og docbook-typesetting?  Ta kontakt
 487 og send patcher i github.  Jeg legger gjerne inn folk i prosjektet
 488 slik at du kan oppdatere direkte.</p>
 489 </div>
 490       <div class="tags">
 491
 492
 493         Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett</a>.
 494
 495
 496       </div>
 497     </div>
 498     <div class="padding"></div>
 499
 500     <div class="entry">
 501       <div class="title"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__George_Bredberg.html">Debian Edu interview: George Bredberg</a></div>
 502       <div class="date"> 9th July 2012</div>
 503       <div class="body"><p>The <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu /
 504 Skolelinux</a> project have users all over the globe, but until
 505 recently we have not known about any users in Norway's neighbour
 506 country Sweden.  This changed when George Bredberg showed up in March
 507 this year on the mailing list, asking interesting questions about how
 508 to adjust and scale the just released
 509 <a href="http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120311.html">Debian Edu
 510 Wheezy</a> setup to his liking.  He granted me an interview, and I am
 511 happy to share his answers with you here.</p>
 512
 513 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?</strong></p>
 514
 515 <p>I'm a 44 year old country guy that have been working 12 years at
 516 the same school as 50% IT-manager and 50% Teacher. My educational
 517 background is fil.kand in history and religious beliefs, an exam as a
 518 "folkhighschool" teacher, that is, for teaching grownups.  In
 519 Norwegian I believe it's called "Vuxenupplaring". I also have a master
 520 in "Technology and social change". So I'm not really a tech guy, I
 521 just like to study how humans and technology interact and that is my
 522 perspective when working with IT.</p>
 523
 524 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
 525 project?</strong></p>
 526
 527 I have followed the Skolelinux project for quite some time by
 528 now. Earlier I tested out the K12-LTSP project, which we used for some
 529 time, but I really like the idea of having a distribution aimed to be
 530 a complete solution for schools with necessary tools integrated. When
 531 K12-LTSP abandoned that idea some years ago, I started to look more
 532 seriously into Skolelinux instead.
 533
 534 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
 535 Edu?</strong></p>
 536
 537 The big point of Skolelinux to me is that it is a complete
 538 distribution, ready to install. It has LDAP-support, MS Windows
 539 integration tools and so forth already configured, saving an
 540 administrator a lot of time and headache. We were using another Linux
 541 based thin-client system called Thinlinc, that has served us very
 542 well. But that Skolelinux is based on VNC and LTSP, to me, is better
 543 when it comes to the kind of multimedia used in schools. That is
 544 showing videos from Youtube or educational TV. It is also easier to
 545 mix thin clients with workstations, since the user settings will be the
 546 same. In our VNC-based solution you had to "beat around the bush" by
 547 setting up a second, hidden, home-directory for user settings for the
 548 workstations, because they will be different from the ones used on the
 549 thin clients. Skolelinux support for diskless workstations are very
 550 convenient since a school today often need to use a class room
 551 projector showing videos in full screen. That is easily done with a
 552 small integrated media computer running as a diskless workstation. You
 553 have only two installs to update and configure. One for the thin
 554 clients and one for the workstations. Also saving a lot of time.  Our
 555 old system was also based on Redhat and CentOS. They are both very
 556 nice distributions, but they are sometimes painfully slow when it
 557 comes to updating multimedia support and multimedia programs (even
 558 such as Gimp), leaving us with a bit "oldish" applications. Debian is
 559 quicker to update.
 560
 561 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
 562 Edu?</strong></p>
 563
 564 <p>Debian is a bit too quick when it comes to updating. As an example
 565 we use old HP terminals as thinclients, and two times already this
 566 year (2012) the updates you get from the repositories has stopped
 567 sound from working with them.  It's a kernel/ALSA issue. So you have
 568 to be more careful properly testing the updates before you run them in
 569 a production environment. This has never happened with CentOS.</p>
 570
 571 <p>I also would like to be able to set my own domain-settings at
 572 install time.  In Skolelinux they are kind of hard coded into the
 573 distribution, when it comes to LDAP and at least samba integration.
 574 That is more a cosmetic/translation issue, and not a real problem.
 575 Running MS Windows applications within the Skolelinux environment needs
 576 to be better supported. That is, running them seamlessly via RDP, and
 577 support for single-sign on.  That will make the transition to free
 578 software easier, because you can keep the applications you really
 579 need.  No support will make it impossible if you work in a school where
 580 some applications can't be open source. As for us we really need to
 581 run Adobe InDesign in our journalist classes.  We run a journalist
 582 education, and is one of the very few non university ones that is ok:d
 583 by Svenska journalistförbundet (Swedish journalist association).  Our
 584 education gives the pupils the right of membership there, once they
 585 are done.  This is important if you want to get a job.</p>
 586
 587 <p>Adobe InDesign is the program most commonly used in newspapers and
 588 magazines.  We used Quark Express before, but they seem to loose there
 589 market to Adobe. The only "equivalent" to InDesign in the opensource
 590 world is Scribus, and its not advanced enough. At least not according
 591 to the teacher. I think it would be possible to use it, because they
 592 are not supposed to learn a program, they are supposed to learn how to
 593 edit and compile a newspaper.  But politically at our school we are not
 594 there yet.  And Scribus lacks a lot of things you find i InDesign.</p>
 595
 596 <p>We used even a windows program for sound editing when it comes to
 597 the radio-journalist part. The year to come we are going to try
 598 Audacity. That software has the same kind of limitations compared to
 599 Adobe Audition, but that teacher is a bit more open minded. We have
 600 tried Ardour also, but that instead is more like a music studio
 601 program, not intended for the kind of editing taking place in a radio
 602 studio. Its way to complex and the GUI is to scattered when you only
 603 want to cut, make pass-overs, add extra channels and normalise.  Those
 604 things you can do in Audacity, but its not as easy as in Audition. You
 605 have to do more things manually with envelopes, and that is a bit old
 606 fashion and timewasting. Its also harder to cut and move sound from
 607 one channel to another, which is a thing that you do frequently
 608 because you often find yourself needing to rearrange parts of the
 609 sound file.</p>
 610
 611 <p>So, I am not sure we will succeed in replacing even Audition, but we
 612 will try.  The problem is the students have certain expectations when
 613 they start an education towards a profession.  So the programs has to
 614 look and feel professional.  Good thing with radio, there are many
 615 programs out there, that radio studios use, so its not as standardised
 616 as Newspaper editing. That means, it does not really matter what
 617 program they learn, because once they start working they still have to
 618 learn the program the studio uses, so instead focus has to be to learn
 619 the editing part without to much focus on a specific software.</p>
 620
 621 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?</strong></p>
 622
 623 <p>Myself I'm running Linux Mint, or Ubuntu these days.  I use almost
 624 only open source software, and preferably Linux based. When it comes
 625 to most used applications its OpenOffice, and Firefox (of course ;)
 626 )</p>
 627
 628 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
 629 get schools to use free software?</strong></p>
 630
 631 <p>To get schools to use free software there has to be good open
 632 source software that are windows based, to ease the transition. But
 633 it's also very important that the multimedia support is working
 634 flawlessly.  The problems with Youtube, Twitter, Facebook and whatever
 635 will create problems when it comes to both teachers and
 636 students. Economy are also important for schools, so using thin
 637 clients, as long as they have good multimedia support, is a very good
 638 idea. It's also important that the open source software works even for
 639 the administration.  It's hard to convince the teachers to stick with
 640 open source, if the principal has to run Windows.  It also creates a
 641 problem if some classes has to use Windows for there tasks, since that
 642 will create a difference in "status" between classes, so a good
 643 support for running windows applications via the thin client (Linux)
 644 desktop is essential.  At least at our school, where we have mixed
 645 level of educations, from high-school to journalist-school.</p>
 646
 647 <p>Update 2012-07-09 08:30: Paul Wise tipped me on IRC about three
 648 useful sources related to Free Software for radio stations: the LWN
 649 article <a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/481607/">Radio station
 650 management with Airtime</a>,
 651 <a href="http://www.sourcefabric.org/en/airtime/">Airtime</a> which
 652 claim to be a Free open source radio automation software and
 653 <a href="http://www.rivendellaudio.org/">Rivendell</a> which claim to
 654 be complete radio broadcast automation solution.  All of them seem
 655 useful to the aspiring radio producer.</p>
 656 </div>
 657       <div class="tags">
 658
 659
 660         Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju</a>.
 661
 662
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 669
 670
 671
 672 <h2>Archive</h2>
 673 <ul>
 674
 675 <li>2012
 676 <ul>
 677
 678 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/01/">January (7)</a></li>
 679
 680 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/02/">February (10)</a></li>
 681
 682 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/03/">March (17)</a></li>
 683
 684 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/04/">April (12)</a></li>
 685
 686 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/05/">May (12)</a></li>
 687
 688 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/06/">June (20)</a></li>
 689
 690 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/07/">July (17)</a></li>
 691
 692 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/08/">August (2)</a></li>
 693
 694 </ul></li>
 695
 696 <li>2011
 697 <ul>
 698
 699 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/01/">January (16)</a></li>
 700
 701 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/02/">February (6)</a></li>
 702
 703 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/03/">March (6)</a></li>
 704
 705 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/04/">April (7)</a></li>
 706
 707 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/05/">May (3)</a></li>
 708
 709 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/06/">June (2)</a></li>
 710
 711 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/07/">July (7)</a></li>
 712
 713 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/08/">August (6)</a></li>
 714
 715 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/09/">September (4)</a></li>
 716
 717 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/10/">October (2)</a></li>
 718
 719 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/11/">November (3)</a></li>
 720
 721 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/12/">December (1)</a></li>
 722
 723 </ul></li>
 724
 725 <li>2010
 726 <ul>
 727
 728 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/01/">January (2)</a></li>
 729
 730 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/02/">February (1)</a></li>
 731
 732 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/03/">March (3)</a></li>
 733
 734 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/04/">April (3)</a></li>
 735
 736 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/05/">May (9)</a></li>
 737
 738 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/06/">June (14)</a></li>
 739
 740 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/07/">July (12)</a></li>
 741
 742 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/08/">August (13)</a></li>
 743
 744 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/09/">September (7)</a></li>
 745
 746 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/10/">October (9)</a></li>
 747
 748 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/11/">November (13)</a></li>
 749
 750 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/12/">December (12)</a></li>
 751
 752 </ul></li>
 753
 754 <li>2009
 755 <ul>
 756
 757 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/01/">January (8)</a></li>
 758
 759 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/02/">February (8)</a></li>
 760
 761 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/03/">March (12)</a></li>
 762
 763 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/04/">April (10)</a></li>
 764
 765 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/05/">May (9)</a></li>
 766
 767 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/06/">June (3)</a></li>
 768
 769 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/07/">July (4)</a></li>
 770
 771 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/08/">August (3)</a></li>
 772
 773 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/09/">September (1)</a></li>
 774
 775 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/10/">October (2)</a></li>
 776
 777 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/11/">November (3)</a></li>
 778
 779 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/12/">December (3)</a></li>
 780
 781 </ul></li>
 782
 783 <li>2008
 784 <ul>
 785
 786 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2008/11/">November (5)</a></li>
 787
 788 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2008/12/">December (7)</a></li>
 789
 790 </ul></li>
 791
 792 </ul>
 793
 794
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 796 <h2>Tags</h2>
 797 <ul>
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 817  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/drivstoffpriser">drivstoffpriser (4)</a></li>
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 827  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju (30)</a></li>
 828
 829  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart (16)</a></li>
 830
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 837  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia (22)</a></li>
 838
 839  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk (191)</a></li>
 840
 841  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug (142)</a></li>
 842
 843  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/offentlig innsyn">offentlig innsyn (4)</a></li>
 844
 845  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/open311">open311 (2)</a></li>
 846
 847  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett (34)</a></li>
 848
 849  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern (48)</a></li>
 850
 851  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/raid">raid (1)</a></li>
 852
 853  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/reprap">reprap (11)</a></li>
 854
 855  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/rfid">rfid (2)</a></li>
 856
 857  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/robot">robot (4)</a></li>
 858
 859  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/rss">rss (1)</a></li>
 860
 861  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ruter">ruter (4)</a></li>
 862
 863  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/scraperwiki">scraperwiki (2)</a></li>
 864
 865  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet (23)</a></li>
 866
 867  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary (4)</a></li>
 868
 869  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/skepsis">skepsis (1)</a></li>
 870
 871  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard (36)</a></li>
 872
 873  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll (1)</a></li>
 874
 875  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/stortinget">stortinget (4)</a></li>
 876
 877  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/surveillance">surveillance (10)</a></li>
 878
 879  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/valg">valg (6)</a></li>
 880
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