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4 <title>Petter Reinholdtsen - Entries from April
2015</title>
5 <description>Entries from April
2015</description>
6 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/
</link>
10 <title>Debian Edu interview: Shirish Agarwal
</title>
11 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Shirish_Agarwal.html
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13 <pubDate>Wed,
15 Apr
2015 09:
20:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
14 <description><p
>It was a surprise to me to learn that project to create a complete
15 computer system for schools I
've involved in,
16 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a
>, was
17 being used in India. But apparently it is, and I managed to get an
18 interview with one of the friends of the project there, Shirish
21 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
23 <p
>My name is Shirish Agarwal. Based out of the educational and
24 historical city of Pune, from the western state of Maharashtra, India.
25 My bread comes from giving training, giving policy tips,
26 installations on free software to mom and pop shops in different
27 fields from Desktop publishing to retail shops as well as work with
28 few software start-ups as well.
</p
>
30 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
31 project?
</strong
></p
>
33 <p
>It started innocently enough. I have been using Debian for a few
34 years and in one local minidebconf / debutsav I was asked if there was
35 anything for schools or education. I had worked / played with free
36 educational softwares such as Gcompris and Stellarium for my many
37 nieces and nephews so researched and found Debian Edu or Skolelinux as
38 it was known then. Since then I have started using the various
39 education meta-packages provided by the project.
</p
>
41 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
42 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
44 <p
>It
's closest I have seen where a package full of educational
45 software are packed, which are free and open (both literally and
46 figuratively). Even if I take the simplest software which is
47 gcompris, the number of activities therein are amazing. Another one of
48 the softwares that I have liked for a long time is stellarium. Even
49 pysycache is cool except for couple of issues I encountered
50 <a href=
"https://bugs.debian.org/
781841">#
781841</a
> and
51 <a href=
"https://bugs.debian.org/
781842">#
781842</a
>.
</p
>
53 <p
>I prefer software installed on the system over web based solutions,
54 as a web site can disappear any time but the software on disk has the
55 possibility of a larger life span. Of course with both it
's more a
56 question if it has enough users who make it fun or sustainable or both
57 for the developer per-se.
</p
>
59 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
60 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
62 <p
>I do see that the Debian Edu team seems to be short-handed and I
63 think more efforts should be made to make it popular and ask and take
64 help from people and the larger community wherever possible.
</p
>
66 <p
>I don
't see any disadvantage to use Skolelinux apart from the fact
67 that most apps. are generic which is good or bad how you see it.
68 However, saying that I do acknowledge the fact that the canvas is
69 pretty big and there are lot of interesting ideas that could be done
70 but for reasons not known not done or if done I don
't know about them.
71 Let me share some of the ideas (these are more upstream based but
72 still) I have had for a long time :
</p
>
74 <p
>1. Classical maths question of two trains in opposing directions
75 each running @x kmph/mph at y distance, when they will meet and how
76 far would each travel and similar questions like these.
78 <p
>The computer is a fantastic system where questions like these can
79 be drawn, animated and the methodology and answers teased out in
80 interactive manner. While sites such as the
81 <a href=
"http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.two.trains.html
">Ask
82 Dr. Math FAQ on The Two Trains problem
</a
> (as an example or point of
83 inspiration) can be used there is lot more that can be done. I dunno
84 if there is a free software which does something like this. The idea
85 being a blend of objects + animation + interaction which does
86 this. The whole interaction could be gamified with points or sounds or
87 colourful celebration whenever the user gets even part of the question
88 or/and methodology right. That would help reinforce good behaviour.
89 This understanding could be used to share/showcase everything from how
90 the first wheel came to be, to evolution to how astronomy started,
91 psychics and everything in-between.
</p
>
93 <p
>One specific idea in the train part was having the Linux mascot on
94 one train and the BSD or GNU mascot on the other train and they
95 meeting somewhere in-between. Characters from blender movies could
96 also be used.
</p
>
98 <p
>2. Loads of crossword-puzzles with reference to subjects: We have
99 enormous data sets in Wikipedia and Wikitionary. I don
't think it
100 should be a big job to design crossword puzzles. Using categories and
101 sub-categories it should be doable to have Q
&A single word answers
102 from the existing data-sets. What would make it easy or hard could be
103 the length of the word + existence of many or few vowels depending on
104 the user
's input.
</p
>
106 <p
>3. Jigsaw puzzles - We already have a great software called
107 palapeli with number of slicers making it pretty interesting. What
108 needs to be done is to download large number of public domain and
109 copyleft images, tease and use IPTC tags to categorise them into
110 nature, history etc. and let it loose. This could turn to be really
111 huge collection of images. One source could be taken from
112 commons.wikimedia.org, others could be huge collection of royalty-free
113 stock photos. Potential is immense.
</p
>
115 <p
>Apart from this, free software suffers in two directions, we lag
116 both in development (of using new features per-se) and maintenance a
117 lot. This is more so in educational software as these applications
118 need to be timely and the opportunity cost of missing deadlines is
119 immense. If we are able to solve issues of funding for development and
120 maintenance of such software I don
't see any big difficulties. I know
121 of few start-ups in and around India who would love to develop and
122 maintain such software if funding issues could be solved.
</p
>
124 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
126 <p
>That would be huge list. Some of the softwares are obviously apt,
127 aptitude, debdelta, leafpad, the shell of course (zsh nowadays),
128 quassel for IRC. In games I use shisen-sho while card-games are evenly
129 between kpat and Aiselriot. In desktops it
's a tie between
130 gnome-flashback and mate.
</p
>
132 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
133 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
135 <p
>I think it should first start with using specific FOSS apps. in
136 whatever environment they are. If it
's MS-Windows or Mac so be it.
137 Once they are habitual with the apps. and there is buy-in from the
138 school management then it could be installed anywhere. Most of the
139 people now understand the concept of a repository because of the
140 various online stores so it isn
't hard to convince on that front.
</p
>
142 <p
>What is harder is having enough people with technical skills and
143 passion to service them. If you get buy-in from one or two teachers
144 then ideas like above could also be asked to be done as a project as
147 <p
>I think where we fall short more than anything is in marketing. For
148 instance, Debian has this whole range of fonts in its archive but
149 there isn
't even a page where all those different fonts in the La
150 Ipsum format could be tried out for newcomers.
</p
>
152 <p
>One of the issues faced constantly in installations is with updates
153 and upgrades. People have this myth that each update and upgrade
154 means the user interface will / has to change. I have seen this
155 innumerable times. That perhaps is one of the reasons which browsers
156 like Iceweasel / Firefox change user interfaces so much, not because
157 it might be needed or be functional but because people believe that
158 changed user interfaces are better. This, can easily be pointed with
159 the user interfaces changed with almost every MS-Windows and Mac OS
162 <p
>The problems with Debian Edu for deployment are many. The biggest
163 is the huge gap between what is taught in schools and what Debian Edu
166 <p
>Me and my friends did teach on week-ends in a government school for
168 <a href=
"https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/
2012/
10/
08/sharings/
">gathered
169 some experience
</a
> there. Some of the things we learnt/discovered
170 there was :
</p
>
174 <li
>Most of the teachers are very territorial about their subjects
175 and they do not want you to teach anything out of the
176 portion/syllabus given.
</li
>
178 <li
>They want any activity on the system in accordance to whatever
179 is in the syllabus.
</li
>
181 <li
>There are huge barriers both with the English language and at
182 times with objects or whatever. An example, let
's say in gcompris
183 you have objects falling down and you have to name them and let
's
184 say the falling object is a hat or a fedora hat, this would not be
185 as recognizable as say a
186 <a href=
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puneri_Pagadi
">Puneri
187 Pagdi
</a
> so there is need to inject local objects, words wherever
188 possible. Especially for word-games there are so many hindi words
189 which have become part of english vocabulary (for instance in
190 parley), those could be made into a hinglish collection or
191 something but that is something for upstream to do.
</li
>
198 <title>I
'm going to the Open Source Developers
' Conference Nordic
2015!
</title>
199 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/I_m_going_to_the_Open_Source_Developers__Conference_Nordic_2015_.html
</link>
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201 <pubDate>Tue,
7 Apr
2015 10:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
202 <description><p
>I am happy to let you all know that I
'm going to the
<a
203 href=
"http://act.osdc.no/osdc2015no/
">Open Source Developers
'
204 Conference Nordic
2015</a
>!
</p
>
206 <p
>It take place Friday
8th to Sunday
10th of May in Oslo next to
207 where I work, and I finally got around to submitting
208 <a href=
"http://act.osdc.no/osdc2015no/talk/
6192">a talk proposal for
209 it
</a
> (dead link for most people until the talk is accepted). As
210 part of my involvement with the
211 <a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/
">Norwegian Unix User Group member
212 association
</a
> I have been slightly involved in the planning of this
213 conference for a while now, with a focus on organising a Civic Hacking
214 Hackathon with our friends
215 over at
<a href=
"http://www.mysociety.org/
">mySociety
</a
> and
216 <a href=
"http://www.holderdeord.no/
">Holder de ord
</a
>. This part is
217 named the
'My Society
' track in the program. There is still space for
218 more talks and participants. I hope to see you there.
</p
>
220 <p
>Check out
<a href=
"http://act.osdc.no/osdc2015no/talks
">the talks
221 submitted and accepted so far
</a
>.
</p
>
226 <title>Proof reading the Norwegian translation of Free Culture by Lessig
</title>
227 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Proof_reading_the_Norwegian_translation_of_Free_Culture_by_Lessig.html
</link>
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229 <pubDate>Sat,
4 Apr
2015 09:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
230 <description><p
>During eastern I had some time to continue working on the Norwegian
231 <a href=
"http://www.docbook.org/
">docbook
</a
> version of the
2004 book
232 <a href=
"http://free-culture.cc/
">Free Culture
</a
> by Lawrence Lessig.
233 At the moment I am proof reading the finished text, looking for typos,
234 inconsistent wordings and sentences that do not flow as they should.
235 I
'm more than two thirds done with the text, and welcome others to
236 check the text up to chapter
13. The current status is available on the
237 <a href=
"https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig
">github
</a
>
238 project pages. You can also check out the
239 <a href=
"https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/blob/master/archive/freeculture.nb.pdf?raw=true
">PDF
</a
>,
240 <a href=
"https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/blob/master/archive/freeculture.nb.epub?raw=true
">EPUB
</a
>
241 and HTML version available in the
242 <a href=
"https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/tree/master/archive
">archive
243 directory
</a
>.
</p
>
245 <p
>Please report typos, bugs and improvements to the github project if
246 you find any.
</p
>