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15 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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23 <div class="title">A day in court challenging seizure of popcorn-time.no for #domstolkontroll</div>
24 <div class="date"> 3rd February 2017</div>
25 <div class="body"><p align="center"><img width="70%" src="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2017-02-01-popcorn-time-in-court.jpeg"></p>
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27 <p>On Wednesday, I spent the entire day in court in Follo Tingrett
28 representing <a href="https://www.nuug.no/">the member association
29 NUUG</a>, alongside <a href="https://www.efn.no/">the member
30 association EFN</a> and <a href="http://www.imc.no">the DNS registrar
31 IMC</a>, challenging the seizure of the DNS name popcorn-time.no. It
32 was interesting to sit in a court of law for the first time in my
33 life. Our team can be seen in the picture above: attorney Ola
34 Tellesbø, EFN board member Tom Fredrik Blenning, IMC CEO Morten Emil
35 Eriksen and NUUG board member Petter Reinholdtsen.</p>
36
37 <p><a href="http://www.domstol.no/no/Enkelt-domstol/follo-tingrett/Nar-gar-rettssaken/Beramming/?cid=AAAA1701301512081262234UJFBVEZZZZZEJBAvtale">The
38 case at hand</a> is that the Norwegian National Authority for
39 Investigation and Prosecution of Economic and Environmental Crime (aka
40 Økokrim) decided on their own, to seize a DNS domain early last
41 year, without following
42 <a href="https://www.norid.no/no/regelverk/navnepolitikk/#link12">the
43 official policy of the Norwegian DNS authority</a> which require a
44 court decision. The web site in question was a site covering Popcorn
45 Time. And Popcorn Time is the name of a technology with both legal
46 and illegal applications. Popcorn Time is a client combining
47 searching a Bittorrent directory available on the Internet with
48 downloading/distribute content via Bittorrent and playing the
49 downloaded content on screen. It can be used illegally if it is used
50 to distribute content against the will of the right holder, but it can
51 also be used legally to play a lot of content, for example the
52 millions of movies
53 <a href="https://archive.org/details/movies">available from the
54 Internet Archive</a> or the collection
55 <a href="http://vodo.net/films/">available from Vodo</a>. We created
56 <a href="magnet:?xt=urn:btih:86c1802af5a667ca56d3918aecb7d3c0f7173084&dn=PresentasjonFolloTingrett.mov&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fpublic.popcorn-tracker.org%3A6969%2Fannounce">a
57 video demonstrating legally use of Popcorn Time</a> and played it in
58 Court. It can of course be downloaded using Bittorrent.</p>
59
60 <p>I did not quite know what to expect from a day in court. The
61 government held on to their version of the story and we held on to
62 ours, and I hope the judge is able to make sense of it all. We will
63 know in two weeks time. Unfortunately I do not have high hopes, as
64 the Government have the upper hand here with more knowledge about the
65 case, better training in handling criminal law and in general higher
66 standing in the courts than fairly unknown DNS registrar and member
67 associations. It is expensive to be right also in Norway. So far the
68 case have cost more than NOK 70 000,-. To help fund the case, NUUG
69 and EFN have asked for donations, and managed to collect around NOK 25
70 000,- so far. Given the presentation from the Government, I expect
71 the government to appeal if the case go our way. And if the case do
72 not go our way, I hope we have enough funding to appeal.</p>
73
74 <p>From the other side came two people from Økokrim. On the benches,
75 appearing to be part of the group from the government were two people
76 from the Simonsen Vogt Wiik lawyer office, and three others I am not
77 quite sure who was. Økokrim had proposed to present two witnesses
78 from The Motion Picture Association, but this was rejected because
79 they did not speak Norwegian and it was a bit late to bring in a
80 translator, but perhaps the two from MPA were present anyway. All
81 seven appeared to know each other. Good to see the case is take
82 seriously.</p>
83
84 <p>If you, like me, believe the courts should be involved before a DNS
85 domain is hijacked by the government, or you believe the Popcorn Time
86 technology have a lot of useful and legal applications, I suggest you
87 too <a href="http://www.nuug.no/dns-beslag-donasjon.shtml">donate to
88 the NUUG defense fund</a>. Both Bitcoin and bank transfer are
89 available. If NUUG get more than we need for the legal action (very
90 unlikely), the rest will be spend promoting free software, open
91 standards and unix-like operating systems in Norway, so no matter what
92 happens the money will be put to good use.</p>
93
94 <p>If you want to lean more about the case, I recommend you check out
95 <a href="https://www.nuug.no/news/tags/dns-domenebeslag/">the blog
96 posts from NUUG covering the case</a>. They cover the legal arguments
97 on both sides.</p>
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