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15 <a href=
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22 <h3>Entries from January
2013.
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26 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Welcome_to_the_world__Isenkram_.html">Welcome to the world, Isenkram!
</a>
33 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_prototype_ready_making_hardware_easier_to_use_in_Debian.html">asked
34 for testers
</a> for my prototype for making Debian better at handling
35 pluggable hardware devices, which I
36 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lets_make_hardware_dongles_easier_to_use_in_Debian.html">set
37 out to create
</a> earlier this month. Several valuable testers showed
38 up, and caused me to really want to to open up the development to more
39 people. But before I did this, I want to come up with a sensible name
40 for this project. Today I finally decided on a new name, and I have
41 renamed the project from hw-support-handler to this new name. In the
42 process, I moved the source to git and made it available as a
43 <a href=
"http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/isenkram.git">collab-maint
</a>
44 repository in Debian. The new name? It is
<strong>Isenkram
</strong>.
45 To fetch and build the latest version of the source, use
</p>
48 git clone git://anonscm.debian.org/collab-maint/isenkram.git
49 cd isenkram && git-buildpackage
52 <p>I have not yet adjusted all files to use the new name yet. If you
53 want to hack on the source or improve the package, please go ahead.
54 But please talk to me first on IRC or via email before you do major
55 changes, to make sure we do not step on each others toes. :)
</p>
57 <p>If you wonder what 'isenkram' is, it is a Norwegian word for iron
58 stuff, typically meaning tools, nails, screws, etc. Typical hardware
59 stuff, in other words. I've been told it is the Norwegian variant of
60 the German word eisenkram, for those that are familiar with that
67 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
72 <div class=
"padding"></div>
76 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_prototype_ready_making_hardware_easier_to_use_in_Debian.html">First prototype ready making hardware easier to use in Debian
</a>
82 <p>Early this month I set out to try to
83 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lets_make_hardware_dongles_easier_to_use_in_Debian.html">improve
84 the Debian support for pluggable hardware devices
</a>. Now my
85 prototype is working, and it is ready for a larger audience. To test
87 <a href=
"http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debian-edu/trunk/src/hw-support-handler/">source
88 from the Debian Edu subversion repository
</a>, build and install the
89 package. You might have to log out and in again activate the
92 <p>The design is simple:
</p>
96 <li>Add desktop entry in /usr/share/autostart/ causing a program
97 hw-support-handlerd to start when the user log in.
</li>
99 <li>This program listen for kernel events about new hardware (directly
100 from the kernel like udev does), not using HAL dbus events as I
103 <li>When new hardware is inserted, look up the hardware modalias in
104 the APT database, a database
105 <a href=
"http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debian-edu/trunk/src/hw-support-handler/modaliases?view=markup">available
106 via HTTP
</a> and a database available as part of the package.
</li>
108 <li>If a package is mapped to the hardware in question, the package
109 isn't installed yet and this is the first time the hardware was
110 plugged in, show a desktop notification suggesting to install the
111 package or packages.
</li>
113 <li>If the user click on the 'install package now' button, ask
114 aptdaemon via the PackageKit API to install the requrired package.
</li>
116 <li>aptdaemon ask for root password or sudo password, and install the
117 package while showing progress information in a window.
</li>
121 <p>I still need to come up with a better name for the system. Here
122 are some screen shots showing the prototype in action. First the
123 notification, then the password request, and finally the request to
124 approve all the dependencies. Sorry for the Norwegian Bokmål GUI.
</p>
126 <p><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2013-01-21-hw-support-1-notification.png">
127 <br><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2013-01-21-hw-support-2-password.png">
128 <br><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2013-01-21-hw-support-3-dependencies.png">
129 <br><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2013-01-21-hw-support-4-installing.png">
130 <br><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2013-01-21-hw-support-5-installing-details.png" width=
"70%"></p>
132 <p>The prototype still need to be improved with longer timeouts, but
133 is already useful. The database of hardware to package mappings also
134 need more work. It is currently compatible with the Ubuntu way of
135 storing such information in the package control file, but could be
136 changed to use other formats instead or in addition to the current
137 method. I've dropped the use of discover for this mapping, as the
138 modalias approach is more flexible and easier to use on Linux as long
139 as the Linux kernel expose its modalias strings directly.
</p>
141 <p><strong>Update
2013-
01-
21 16:
50</strong>: Due to popular demand,
142 here is the command required to check out and build the source: Use
144 svn://svn.debian.org/debian-edu/trunk/src/hw-support-handler/; cd
145 hw-support-handler; debuild
</tt>'. If you lack debuild, install the
146 devscripts package.
</p>
152 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
157 <div class=
"padding"></div>
161 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Thank_you_Thinkpad_X41__for_your_long_and_trustworthy_service.html">Thank you Thinkpad X41, for your long and trustworthy service
</a>
167 <p>This Christmas my trusty old laptop died. It died quietly and
168 suddenly in bed. With a quiet whimper, it went completely quiet and
169 black. The power button was no longer able to turn it on. It was a
170 IBM Thinkpad X41, and the best laptop I ever had. Better than both
171 Thinkpads X30, X31, X40, X60, X61 and X61S. Far better than the
172 Compaq I had before that. Now I need to find a replacement. To keep
173 going during Christmas, I moved the one year old SSD disk to my old
174 X40 where it fitted (only one I had left that could use it), but it is
175 not a durable solution.
177 <p>My laptop needs are fairly modest. This is my wishlist from when I
178 got a new one more than
10 years ago. It still holds true.:)
</p>
182 <li>Lightweight (around
1 kg) and small volume (preferably smaller
184 <li>Robust, it will be in my backpack every day.
</li>
185 <li>Three button mouse and a mouse pin instead of touch pad.
</li>
186 <li>Long battery life time. Preferable a week.
</li>
187 <li>Internal WIFI network card.
</li>
188 <li>Internal Twisted Pair network card.
</li>
189 <li>Some USB slots (
2-
3 is plenty)
</li>
190 <li>Good keyboard - similar to the Thinkpad.
</li>
191 <li>Video resolution at least
1024x768, with size around
12" (A4 paper
193 <li>Hardware supported by Debian Stable, ie the default kernel and
195 <li>Quiet, preferably fan free (or at least not using the fan most of
200 <p>You will notice that there are no RAM and CPU requirements in the
201 list. The reason is simply that the specifications on laptops the
202 last
10-
15 years have been sufficient for my needs, and I have to look
203 at other features to choose my laptop. But are there still made as
204 robust laptops as my X41? The Thinkpad X60/X61 proved to be less
205 robust, and Thinkpads seem to be heading in the wrong direction since
206 Lenovo took over. But I've been told that X220 and X1 Carbon might
209 <p>Perhaps I should rethink my needs, and look for a pad with an
210 external keyboard? I'll have to check the
211 <a href=
"http://www.linux-laptop.net/">Linux Laptops site
</a> for
212 well-supported laptops, or perhaps just buy one preinstalled from one
213 of the vendors listed on the
<a href=
"http://linuxpreloaded.com/">Linux
214 Pre-loaded site
</a>.
</p>
220 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
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"padding"></div>
229 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/How_to_find_a_browser_plugin_supporting_a_given_MIME_type.html">How to find a browser plugin supporting a given MIME type
</a>
235 <p>Some times I try to figure out which Iceweasel browser plugin to
236 install to get support for a given MIME type. Thanks to
237 <a href=
"https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Plugins">specifications
238 done by Ubuntu
</a> and Mozilla, it is possible to do this in Debian.
239 Unfortunately, not very many packages provide the needed meta
240 information, Anyway, here is a small script to look up all browser
241 plugin packages announcing ther MIME support using this specification:
</p>
247 def pkgs_handling_mimetype(mimetype):
252 version = pkg.candidate
254 version = pkg.installed
257 record = version.record
258 if not record.has_key('Npp-MimeType'):
260 mime_types = record['Npp-MimeType'].split(',')
262 t = t.rstrip().strip()
264 thepkgs.append(pkg.name)
266 mimetype = "audio/ogg"
267 if
1 < len(sys.argv):
268 mimetype = sys.argv[
1]
269 print "Browser plugin packages supporting %s:" % mimetype
270 for pkg in pkgs_handling_mimetype(mimetype):
274 <p>It can be used like this to look up a given MIME type:
</p>
277 % ./apt-find-browserplug-for-mimetype
278 Browser plugin packages supporting audio/ogg:
280 % ./apt-find-browserplug-for-mimetype application/x-shockwave-flash
281 Browser plugin packages supporting application/x-shockwave-flash:
286 <p>In Ubuntu this mechanism is combined with support in the browser
287 itself to query for plugins and propose to install the needed
288 packages. It would be great if Debian supported such feature too. Is
289 anyone working on adding it?
</p>
291 <p><strong>Update
2013-
01-
18 14:
20</strong>: The Debian BTS
292 request for icweasel support for this feature is
293 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/484010">#
484010</a> from
2008 (and
294 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/698426">#
698426</a> from today). Lack
295 of manpower and wish for a different design is the reason thus feature
296 is not yet in iceweasel from Debian.
</p>
302 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
307 <div class=
"padding"></div>
311 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/What_is_the_most_supported_MIME_type_in_Debian_.html">What is the most supported MIME type in Debian?
</a>
317 <p>The
<a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/AppStreamDebianProposal">DEP-
11
318 proposal to add AppStream information to the Debian archive
</a>, is a
319 proposal to make it possible for a Desktop application to propose to
320 the user some package to install to gain support for a given MIME
321 type, font, library etc. that is currently missing. With such
322 mechanism in place, it would be possible for the desktop to
323 automatically propose and install leocad if some LDraw file is
324 downloaded by the browser.
</p>
326 <p>To get some idea about the current content of the archive, I decided
327 to write a simple program to extract all .desktop files from the
328 Debian archive and look up the claimed MIME support there. The result
330 <a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/pub/AppStreamTest">Skolelinux FTP
331 site
</a>. Using the collected information, it become possible to
332 answer the question in the title. Here are the
20 most supported MIME
333 types in Debian stable (Squeeze), testing (Wheezy) and unstable (Sid).
334 The complete list is available from the link above.
</p>
336 <p><strong>Debian Stable:
</strong></p>
340 ----- -----------------------
363 <p><strong>Debian Testing:
</strong></p>
367 ----- -----------------------
390 <p><strong>Debian Unstable:
</strong></p>
394 ----- -----------------------
417 <p>I am told that PackageKit can provide an API to access the kind of
418 information mentioned in DEP-
11. I have not yet had time to look at
419 it, but hope the PackageKit people in Debian are on top of these
422 <p><strong>Update
2013-
01-
16 13:
35</strong>: Updated numbers after
423 discovering a typo in my script.
</p>
429 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
434 <div class=
"padding"></div>
438 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Using_modalias_info_to_find_packages_handling_my_hardware.html">Using modalias info to find packages handling my hardware
</a>
444 <p>Yesterday, I wrote about the
445 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Modalias_strings___a_practical_way_to_map__stuff__to_hardware.html">modalias
446 values provided by the Linux kernel
</a> following my hope for
447 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lets_make_hardware_dongles_easier_to_use_in_Debian.html">better
448 dongle support in Debian
</a>. Using this knowledge, I have tested how
449 modalias values attached to package names can be used to map packages
450 to hardware. This allow the system to look up and suggest relevant
451 packages when I plug in some new hardware into my machine, and replace
452 discover and discover-data as the database used to map hardware to
455 <p>I create a modaliases file with entries like the following,
456 containing package name, kernel module name (if relevant, otherwise
457 the package name) and globs matching the relevant hardware
461 Package: package-name
462 <br>Modaliases: module(modaliasglob, modaliasglob, modaliasglob)
</p>
465 <p>It is fairly trivial to write code to find the relevant packages
466 for a given modalias value using this file.
</p>
468 <p>An entry like this would suggest the video and picture application
469 cheese for many USB web cameras (interface bus class
0E01):
</p>
473 <br>Modaliases: cheese(usb:v*p*d*dc*dsc*dp*ic0Eisc01ip*)
</p>
476 <p>An entry like this would suggest the pcmciautils package when a
477 CardBus bridge (bus class
0607) PCI device is present:
</p>
481 <br>Modaliases: pcmciautils(pci:v*d*sv*sd*bc06sc07i*)
484 <p>An entry like this would suggest the package colorhug-client when
485 plugging in a ColorHug with USB IDs
04D8:F8DA:
</p>
488 Package: colorhug-client
489 <br>Modaliases: colorhug-client(usb:v04D8pF8DAd*)
</p>
492 <p>I believe the format is compatible with the format of the Packages
493 file in the Debian archive. Ubuntu already uses their Packages file
494 to store their mappings from packages to hardware.
</p>
496 <p>By adding a XB-Modaliases: header in debian/control, any .deb can
497 announce the hardware it support in a way my prototype understand.
498 This allow those publishing packages in an APT source outside the
499 Debian archive as well as those backporting packages to make sure the
500 hardware mapping are included in the package meta information. I've
501 tested such header in the pymissile package, and its modalias mapping
502 is working as it should with my prototype. It even made it to Ubuntu
505 <p>To test if it was possible to look up supported hardware using only
506 the shell tools available in the Debian installer, I wrote a shell
507 implementation of the lookup code. The idea is to create files for
508 each modalias and let the shell do the matching. Please check out and
510 <a href=
"http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debian-edu/trunk/src/hw-support-handler/hw-support-lookup?view=co">hw-support-lookup
</a>
511 shell script. It run without any extra dependencies and fetch the
512 hardware mappings from the Debian archive and the subversion
513 repository where I currently work on my prototype.
</p>
515 <p>When I use it on a machine with a yubikey inserted, it suggest to
516 install yubikey-personalization:
</p>
519 % ./hw-support-lookup
520 <br>yubikey-personalization
524 <p>When I run it on my Thinkpad X40 with a PCMCIA/CardBus slot, it
525 propose to install the pcmciautils package:
</p>
528 % ./hw-support-lookup
533 <p>If you know of any hardware-package mapping that should be added to
534 <a href=
"http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debian-edu/trunk/src/hw-support-handler/modaliases?view=co">my
535 database
</a>, please tell me about it.
</p>
537 <p>It could be possible to generate several of the mappings between
538 packages and hardware. One source would be to look at packages with
539 kernel modules, ie packages with *.ko files in /lib/modules/, and
540 extract their modalias information. Another would be to look at
541 packages with udev rules, ie packages with files in
542 /lib/udev/rules.d/, and extract their vendor/model information to
543 generate a modalias matching rule. I have not tested any of these to
546 <p>If you want to help implementing a system to let us propose what
547 packages to install when new hardware is plugged into a Debian
548 machine, please send me an email or talk to me on
549 <a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%23debian-devel">#debian-devel
</a>.
</p>
555 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
560 <div class=
"padding"></div>
564 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Modalias_strings___a_practical_way_to_map__stuff__to_hardware.html">Modalias strings - a practical way to map "stuff" to hardware
</a>
570 <p>While looking into how to look up Debian packages based on hardware
571 information, to find the packages that support a given piece of
572 hardware, I refreshed my memory regarding modalias values, and decided
573 to document the details. Here are my findings so far, also available
575 <a href=
"http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debian-edu/trunk/src/hw-support-handler/">the
576 Debian Edu subversion repository
</a>:
578 <p><strong>Modalias decoded
</strong></p>
580 <p>This document try to explain what the different types of modalias
581 values stands for. It is in part based on information from
582 <URL:
<a href=
"https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Modalias">https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Modalias
</a> >,
583 <URL:
<a href=
"http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/26132/how-to-assign-usb-driver-to-device">http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/
26132/how-to-assign-usb-driver-to-device
</a> >,
584 <URL:
<a href=
"http://code.metager.de/source/history/linux/stable/scripts/mod/file2alias.c">http://code.metager.de/source/history/linux/stable/scripts/mod/file2alias.c
</a> > and
585 <URL:
<a href=
"http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/dmidecode/dmidecode.c?root=dmidecode&view=markup">http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/dmidecode/dmidecode.c?root=dmidecode&view=markup
</a> >.
587 <p>The modalias entries for a given Linux machine can be found using
588 this shell script:
</p>
591 find /sys -name modalias -print0 | xargs -
0 cat | sort -u
594 <p>The supported modalias globs for a given kernel module can be found
598 % /sbin/modinfo psmouse | grep alias:
599 alias: serio:ty05pr*id*ex*
600 alias: serio:ty01pr*id*ex*
604 <p><strong>PCI subtype
</strong></p>
606 <p>A typical PCI entry can look like this. This is an Intel Host
607 Bridge memory controller:
</p>
610 pci:v00008086d00002770sv00001028sd000001ADbc06sc00i00
613 <p>This represent these values:
</p>
618 sv
00001028 (subvendor)
619 sd
000001AD (subdevice)
625 <p>The vendor/device values are the same values outputted from 'lspci
626 -n' as
8086:
2770. The bus class/subclass is also shown by lspci as
627 0600. The
0600 class is a host bridge. Other useful bus values are
628 0300 (VGA compatible card) and
0200 (Ethernet controller).
</p>
630 <p>Not sure how to figure out the interface value, nor what it
633 <p><strong>USB subtype
</strong></p>
635 <p>Some typical USB entries can look like this. This is an internal
636 USB hub in a laptop:
</p>
639 usb:v1D6Bp0001d0206dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00
642 <p>Here is the values included in this alias:
</p>
645 v
1D6B (device vendor)
646 p
0001 (device product)
649 dsc
00 (device subclass)
650 dp
00 (device protocol)
651 ic
09 (interface class)
652 isc
00 (interface subclass)
653 ip
00 (interface protocol)
656 <p>The
0900 device class/subclass means hub. Some times the relevant
657 class is in the interface class section. For a simple USB web camera,
658 these alias entries show up:
</p>
661 usb:v0AC8p3420d5000dcEFdsc02dp01ic01isc01ip00
662 <br>usb:v0AC8p3420d5000dcEFdsc02dp01ic01isc02ip00
663 <br>usb:v0AC8p3420d5000dcEFdsc02dp01ic0Eisc01ip00
664 <br>usb:v0AC8p3420d5000dcEFdsc02dp01ic0Eisc02ip00
667 <p>Interface class
0E01 is video control,
0E02 is video streaming (aka
668 camera),
0101 is audio control device and
0102 is audio streaming (aka
669 microphone). Thus this is a camera with microphone included.
</p>
671 <p><strong>ACPI subtype
</strong></p>
673 <p>The ACPI type is used for several non-PCI/USB stuff. This is an IR
674 receiver in a Thinkpad X40:
</p>
677 acpi:IBM0071:PNP0511:
680 <p>The values between the colons are IDs.
</p>
682 <p><strong>DMI subtype
</strong></p>
684 <p>The DMI table contain lots of information about the computer case
685 and model. This is an entry for a IBM Thinkpad X40, fetched from
686 /sys/devices/virtual/dmi/id/modalias:
</p>
689 dmi:bvnIBM:bvr1UETB6WW(
1.66):bd06/
15/
2005:svnIBM:pn2371H4G:pvrThinkPadX40:rvnIBM:rn2371H4G:rvrNotAvailable:cvnIBM:ct10:cvrNotAvailable:
692 <p>The values present are
</p>
695 bvn IBM (BIOS vendor)
696 bvr
1UETB
6WW(
1.66) (BIOS version)
697 bd
06/
15/
2005 (BIOS date)
698 svn IBM (system vendor)
699 pn
2371H4G (product name)
700 pvr ThinkPadX40 (product version)
701 rvn IBM (board vendor)
702 rn
2371H4G (board name)
703 rvr NotAvailable (board version)
704 cvn IBM (chassis vendor)
706 cvr NotAvailable (chassis version)
709 <p>The chassis type
10 is Notebook. Other interesting values can be
710 found in the dmidecode source:
</p>
714 4 Low Profile Desktop
727 17 Main Server Chassis
730 20 Bus Expansion Chassis
731 21 Peripheral Chassis
733 23 Rack Mount Chassis
742 <p>The chassis type values are not always accurately set in the DMI
743 table. For example my home server is a tower, but the DMI modalias
744 claim it is a desktop.
</p>
746 <p><strong>SerIO subtype
</strong></p>
748 <p>This type is used for PS/
2 mouse plugs. One example is from my
752 serio:ty01pr00id00ex00
755 <p>The values present are
</p>
764 <p>This type is supported by the psmouse driver. I am not sure what
765 the valid values are.
</p>
767 <p><strong>Other subtypes
</strong></p>
769 <p>There are heaps of other modalias subtypes according to
770 file2alias.c. There is the rest of the list from that source: amba,
771 ap, bcma, ccw, css, eisa, hid, i2c, ieee1394, input, ipack, isapnp,
772 mdio, of, parisc, pcmcia, platform, scsi, sdio, spi, ssb, vio, virtio,
773 vmbus, x86cpu and zorro. I did not spend time documenting all of
774 these, as they do not seem relevant for my intended use with mapping
775 hardware to packages when new stuff is inserted during run time.
</p>
777 <p><strong>Looking up kernel modules using modalias values
</strong></p>
779 <p>To check which kernel modules provide support for a given modalias,
780 one can use the following shell script:
</p>
783 for id in $(find /sys -name modalias -print0 | xargs -
0 cat | sort -u); do \
785 /sbin/modprobe --show-depends "$id"|sed 's/^/ /' ; \
789 <p>The output can look like this (only the first few entries as the
790 list is very long on my test machine):
</p>
794 insmod /lib/modules/
2.6.32-
5-
686/kernel/drivers/acpi/ac.ko
796 FATAL: Module acpi:device: not found.
798 insmod /lib/modules/
2.6.32-
5-
686/kernel/drivers/char/nvram.ko
799 insmod /lib/modules/
2.6.32-
5-
686/kernel/drivers/leds/led-class.ko
800 insmod /lib/modules/
2.6.32-
5-
686/kernel/net/rfkill/rfkill.ko
801 insmod /lib/modules/
2.6.32-
5-
686/kernel/drivers/platform/x86/thinkpad_acpi.ko
802 acpi:IBM0071:PNP0511:
803 insmod /lib/modules/
2.6.32-
5-
686/kernel/lib/crc-ccitt.ko
804 insmod /lib/modules/
2.6.32-
5-
686/kernel/net/irda/irda.ko
805 insmod /lib/modules/
2.6.32-
5-
686/kernel/drivers/net/irda/nsc-ircc.ko
809 <p>If you want to help implementing a system to let us propose what
810 packages to install when new hardware is plugged into a Debian
811 machine, please send me an email or talk to me on
812 <a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%23debian-devel">#debian-devel
</a>.
</p>
814 <p><strong>Update
2013-
01-
15:
</strong> Rewrite "cat $(find ...)" to
815 "find ... -print0 | xargs -
0 cat" to make sure it handle directories
816 in /sys/ with space in them.
</p>
822 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
827 <div class=
"padding"></div>
831 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Moved_the_pymissile_Debian_packaging_to_collab_maint.html">Moved the pymissile Debian packaging to collab-maint
</a>
837 <p>As part of my investigation on how to improve the support in Debian
838 for hardware dongles, I dug up my old Mark and Spencer USB Rocket
839 Launcher and updated the Debian package
840 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/pymissile">pymissile
</a> to make
841 sure udev will fix the device permissions when it is plugged in. I
842 also added a "Modaliases" header to test it in the Debian archive and
843 hopefully make the package be proposed by jockey in Ubuntu when a user
844 plug in his rocket launcher. In the process I moved the source to a
845 git repository under collab-maint, to make it easier for any DD to
846 contribute.
<a href=
"http://code.google.com/p/pymissile/">Upstream
</a>
847 is not very active, but the software still work for me even after five
848 years of relative silence. The new git repository is not listed in
849 the uploaded package yet, because I want to test the other changes a
850 bit more before I upload the new version. If you want to check out
851 the new version with a .desktop file included, visit the
852 <a href=
"http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/pymissile.git">gitweb
853 view
</a> or use "
<tt>git clone
854 git://anonscm.debian.org/collab-maint/pymissile.git
</tt>".</p>
860 Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian
">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english
">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/robot
">robot</a>.
865 <div class="padding
"></div>
869 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lets_make_hardware_dongles_easier_to_use_in_Debian.html
">Lets make hardware dongles easier to use in Debian</a>
875 <p>One thing that annoys me with Debian and Linux distributions in
876 general, is that there is a great package management system with the
877 ability to automatically install software packages by downloading them
878 from the distribution mirrors, but no way to get it to automatically
879 install the packages I need to use the hardware I plug into my
880 machine. Even if the package to use it is easily available from the
881 Linux distribution. When I plug in a LEGO Mindstorms NXT, it could
882 suggest to automatically install the python-nxt, nbc and t2n packages
883 I need to talk to it. When I plug in a Yubikey, it could propose the
884 yubikey-personalization package. The information required to do this
885 is available, but no-one have pulled all the pieces together.</p>
887 <p>Some years ago, I proposed to
888 <a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/
2010/
05/msg01206.html
">use
889 the discover subsystem to implement this</a>. The idea is fairly
894 <li>Add a desktop entry in /usr/share/autostart/ pointing to a program
895 starting when a user log in.</li>
897 <li>Set this program up to listen for kernel events emitted when new
898 hardware is inserted into the computer.</li>
900 <li>When new hardware is inserted, look up the hardware ID in a
901 database mapping to packages, and take note of any non-installed
904 <li>Show a message to the user proposing to install the discovered
905 package, and make it easy to install it.</li>
909 <p>I am not sure what the best way to implement this is, but my
910 initial idea was to use dbus events to discover new hardware, the
911 discover database to find packages and
912 <a href="http://www.packagekit.org/
">PackageKit</a> to install
915 <p>Yesterday, I found time to try to implement this idea, and the
916 draft package is now checked into
917 <a href="http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debian-edu/trunk/src/hw-support-handler/
">the
918 Debian Edu subversion repository</a>. In the process, I updated the
919 <a href="http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/discover-data.html
">discover-data</a>
920 package to map the USB ids of LEGO Mindstorms and Yubikey devices to
921 the relevant packages in Debian, and uploaded a new version
922 2.2013.01.09 to unstable. I also discovered that the current
923 <a href="http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/discover.html
">discover</a>
924 package in Debian no longer discovered any USB devices, because
925 /proc/bus/usb/devices is no longer present. I ported it to use
926 libusb as a fall back option to get it working. The fixed package
927 version 2.1.2-6 is now in experimental (didn't upload it to unstable
928 because of the freeze).</p>
930 <p>With this prototype in place, I can insert my Yubikey, and get this
931 desktop notification to show up (only once, the first time it is
934 <p align="center
"><img src="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
01-
09-hw-autoinstall.png
"></p>
936 <p>For this prototype to be really useful, some way to automatically
937 install the proposed packages by pressing the "Please install
938 program(s)" button should to be implemented.
</p>
940 <p>If this idea seem useful to you, and you want to help make it
941 happen, please help me update the discover-data database with mappings
942 from hardware to Debian packages. Check if 'discover-pkginstall -l'
943 list the package you would like to have installed when a given
944 hardware device is inserted into your computer, and report bugs using
945 reportbug if it isn't. Or, if you know of a better way to provide
946 such mapping, please let me know.
</p>
948 <p>This prototype need more work, and there are several questions that
949 should be considered before it is ready for production use. Is dbus
950 the correct way to detect new hardware? At the moment I look for HAL
951 dbus events on the system bus, because that is the events I could see
952 on my Debian Squeeze KDE desktop. Are there better events to use?
953 How should the user be notified? Is the desktop notification
954 mechanism the best option, or should the background daemon raise a
955 popup instead? How should packages be installed? When should they
956 not be installed?
</p>
958 <p>If you want to help getting such feature implemented in Debian,
959 please send me an email. :)
</p>
965 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
970 <div class=
"padding"></div>
974 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/New_IRC_channel_for_LEGO_designers_using_Debian.html">New IRC channel for LEGO designers using Debian
</a>
980 <p>During Christmas, I have worked a bit on the Debian support for
981 <a href=
"http://mindstorms.lego.com/en-us/Default.aspx">LEGO Mindstorm
982 NXT
</a>. My son and I have played a bit with my NXT set, and I
983 discovered I had to build all the tools myself because none were
984 already in Debian Squeeze. If Debian support for LEGO is something
985 you care about, please join me on the IRC channel
986 <a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%23debian-lego">#debian-lego
</a> (server
987 irc.debian.org). There is a lot that could be done to improve the
988 Debian support for LEGO designers. For example both CAD software
989 and Mindstorm compilers are missing. :)
</p>
991 <p>Update
2012-
01-
03: A
992 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/LegoDesigners">project page
</a>
993 including links to Lego related packages is now available.
</p>
999 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/robot">robot
</a>.
1004 <div class=
"padding"></div>
1008 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenker_for_2013_01_01.html">Lenker for
2013-
01-
01</a>
1014 <p>Her er noen lenker til tekster jeg har satt pris på å lese den
1020 <a href=
"http://www.idg.no/computerworld/article262047.ece">Myter og
1021 FUD om fri programvare
</a> av min venn Christer Gundersen som
1022 kommenterer noen av de påstandene som er spredt via Computerworld
1023 Norge de siste månedene.
</li>
1025 <li>BankID er et opplegg der utsteder (dvs. banken eller dens
1026 leverandør) sitter på alt som trengs for å bruke BankID, men har
1027 lovet å ikke bruke den unntatt på oppdrag fra deg. Det er greit nok
1028 for banktjenester, der banken allerede har full kontroll over
1029 resultatet, men problematisk når det gjelder tilgang til
1030 helseopplysninger og avtaleinngåelse med andre enn banken. Jeg
1031 håper protestene brer om seg.
1035 <li>2012-
12-
11 <a href=
"http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/debatt/BankID-blottlegger-helseopplysninger-7067148.html">BankID
1036 blottlegger helseopplysninger
</a></li>
1038 <li>2012-
12-
07 <a href=
"http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.9695027">-
1039 Helseopplysningene ikke sikre med Bank-ID
</a></li>
1042 <a href=
"https://www.bankid.no/Presse-og-nyheter/Nyhetsarkiv/2012/Papeker-alvorlige-men-kjente-utfordringer/">PÃ¥peker
1043 alvorlige, men kjente utfordringer
</a> er den offisielle
1044 holdningen til de som lager BankID.
</li>
1047 <a href=
"http://www.tnp.no/norway/panorama/3419-ntnu-researcher-warns-against-security-of-bank-id-password">NTNU
1048 Researcher Warns against Security of Bank ID Password
</a>
1052 <li>2012-
12-
11 <a href=
"http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/Norske-elever-er-darligst-i-Europa-pa-algebra-7066752.html">Norske elever er dårligst i Europa på algebra
</a>
1055 <a href=
"http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/debatt/Realfagsdodaren-7067173.html">Realfagsdødaren
</a>
1058 <a href=
"http://www.bt.no/nyheter/innenriks/112/--Forventningene-er-for-hoye-2816450.html">-
1059 Noen må bli skuffet
</a> - Politiet i Bergen forteller hvor lavt de
1060 prioriterer hverdagskriminalitet.
</li>
1063 <a href=
"http://e24.no/jobb/kripos-ansatt-doemt-for-snoking-for-venn/20208585">
1064 Kripos-ansatt dømt for snoking for venn
</A> - viser hvor svak
1065 reaksjonen blir når politiet misbruker innsamlet informasjon. En
1066 forvarsel på konsekvensene av nasjonal brev- og besøkskontroll -
1067 ofte kalt Datalagringsdirektivet.
</li>
1070 <a href=
"http://www.dagbladet.no/2012/12/14/kultur/debatt/kronikk/jul/ensomhet/24838541/">Ã…
1071 smøre en forskjell
</a> - om ensomhet og jul.
</li>
1074 <a href=
"http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kronikker/n-krise-av-gangen_-takk-7072452.html">Én
1075 krise av gangen, takk!
</a>
1079 <a href=
"http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/NAV-Et-mangehodet-monster--7072165.html">NAV:
1080 Et mangehodet monster
</a></li>
1083 <a href=
"http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/01/12/kultur/debatt/kronikk/personvern/15027203/">Pasienter
1084 uten vern
</a> - forteller litt om hvordan Norsk Pasientregister og
1085 andre helseregister raderer bort pasienters privatsfære.
</li>
1089 <a href=
"http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/debatt/Hvorfor-er-barnefamilier-fattige-7073951.html">Hvorfor
1090 er barnefamilier fattige?
</a></li>
1093 <a href=
"http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/spaltister/Den-skjulte-minoriteten--konservative-kristne-i-Norge-7075518.html">Den
1094 skjulte minoriteten – konservative kristne i Norge
</a> - kronikk av
1095 Bjørn Stærk fra aftenposten
</li>
1098 <a href=
"http://deltemeninger.no/-/bulletin/show/303429_folkebiblioteket-2-0?ref=checkpoint">Folkebiblioteket
1099 2.0</a> - Min venn Sturle om opphavsrett og Internett, i debatt med
1104 <p>Og et godt nytt år til dere alle!
</p>
1110 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bankid">bankid
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/lenker">lenker
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern
</a>.
1115 <div class=
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