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15 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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23 <div class="title">New laptop - some more clues and ideas based on feedback</div>
24 <div class="date"> 5th July 2015</div>
25 <div class="body"><p>Several people contacted me after my previous blog post about my
26 need for a new laptop, and provided very useful feedback. I wish to
27 thank every one of these. Several pointed me to the possibility of
28 fixing my X230, and I am already in the process of getting Lenovo to
29 do so thanks to the on site, next day support contract covering the
30 machine. But the battery is almost useless (I expect to replace it
31 with a non-official battery) and I do not expect the machine to live
32 for many more years, so it is time to plan its replacement. If I did
33 not have a support contract, it was suggested to find replacement parts
34 using <a href="http://www.francecrans.com/">FrancEcrans</a>, but it
35 might present a language barrier as I do not understand French.</p>
36
37 <p>One tip I got was to use the
38 <a href="https://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=nb">Skinflint</a> web service to
39 compare laptop models. It seem to have more models available than
40 prisjakt.no. Another tip I got from someone I know have similar
41 keyboard preferences was that the HP EliteBook 840 keyboard is not
42 very good, and this matches my experience with earlier EliteBook
43 keyboards I tested. Because of this, I will not consider it any further.
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45 <p>When I wrote my blog post, I was not aware of Thinkpad X250, the
46 newest Thinkpad X model. The keyboard reintroduces mouse buttons
47 (which is missing from the X240), and is working fairly well with
48 Debian Sid/Unstable according to
49 <a href="http://www.corsac.net/X250/">Corsac.net</a>. The reports I
50 got on the keyboard quality are not consistent. Some say the keyboard
51 is good, others say it is ok, while others say it is not very good.
52 Those with experience from X41 and and X60 agree that the X250
53 keyboard is not as good as those trusty old laptops, and suggest I
54 keep and fix my X230 instead of upgrading, or get a used X230 to
55 replace it. I'm also told that the X250 lack leds for caps lock, disk
56 activity and battery status, which is very convenient on my X230. I'm
57 also told that the CPU fan is running very often, making it a bit
58 noisy. In any case, the X250 do not work out of the box with Debian
59 Stable/Jessie, one of my requirements.</p>
60
61 <p>I have also gotten a few vendor proposals, one was
62 <a href="http://pro-star.com">Pro-Star</a>, another was
63 <a href="http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/product/libreboot-x200/">Libreboot</a>.
64 The latter look very attractive to me.</p>
65
66 <p>Again, thank you all for the very useful feedback. It help a lot
67 as I keep looking for a replacement.</p>
68
69 <p>Update 2015-07-06: I was recommended to check out the
70 <a href="">lapstore.de</a> web shop for used laptops. They got several
71 different
72 <a href="http://www.lapstore.de/f.php/shop/lapstore/f/411/lang/x/kw/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X_Serie/">old
73 thinkpad X models</a>, and provide one year warranty.</p>
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