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15 <a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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23 <div class="title">RAND terms - non-reasonable and discriminatory</div>
24 <div class="date">19th April 2012</div>
25 <div class="body"><p>Here in Norway, the
26 <a href="http://www.regjeringen.no/nb/dep/fad.html?id=339"> Ministry of
27 Government Administration, Reform and Church Affairs</a> is behind
28 a <a href="http://standard.difi.no/forvaltningsstandarder">directory of
29 standards</a> that are recommended or mandatory for use by the
30 government. When the directory was created, the people behind it made
31 an effort to ensure that everyone would be able to implement the
32 standards and compete on equal terms to supply software and solutions
33 to the government. Free software and non-free software could compete
34 on the same level.</p>
35
36 <p>But recently, some standards with RAND
37 (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_and_non-discriminatory_licensing">Reasonable
38 And Non-Discriminatory</a>) terms have made their way into the
39 directory. And while this might not sound too bad, the fact is that
40 standard specifications with RAND terms often block free software from
41 implementing them. The reasonable part of RAND mean that the cost per
42 user/unit is low,and the non-discriminatory part mean that everyone
43 willing to pay will get a license. Both sound great in theory. In
44 practice, to get such license one need to be able to count users, and
45 be able to pay a small amount of money per unit or user. By
46 definition, users of free software do not need to register their use.
47 So counting users or units is not possible for free software projects.
48 And given that people will use the software without handing any money
49 to the author, it is not really economically possible for a free
50 software author to pay a small amount of money to license the rights
51 to implement a standard when the income available is zero. The result
52 in these situations is that free software are locked out from
53 implementing standards with RAND terms.</p>
54
55 <p>Because of this, when I see someone claiming the terms of a
56 standard is reasonable and non-discriminatory, all I can think of is
57 how this really is non-reasonable and discriminatory. Because free
58 software developers are working in a global market, it does not really
59 help to know that software patents are not supposed to be enforceable
60 in Norway. The patent regimes in other countries affect us even here.
61 I really hope the people behind the standard directory will pay more
62 attention to these issues in the future.</p>
63
64 <p>You can find more on the issues with RAND, FRAND and RAND-Z terms
65 from Simon Phipps
66 (<a href="http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2010/11/rand-not-so-reasonable/">RAND:
67 Not So Reasonable?</a>).</p>
68
69 <p>Update 2012-04-21: Just came across a
70 <a href="http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2012/04/of-microsoft-netscape-patents-and-open-standards/index.htm">blog
71 post from Glyn Moody</a> over at Computer World UK warning about the
72 same issue, and urging people to speak out to the UK government. I
73 can only urge Norwegian users to do the same for
74 <a href="http://www.standard.difi.no/hoyring/hoyring-om-nye-anbefalte-it-standarder">the
75 hearing taking place at the moment</a> (respond before 2012-04-27).
76 It proposes to require video conferencing standards including
77 specifications with RAND terms.</p>
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478 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/10/">October (9)</a></li>
479
480 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/11/">November (13)</a></li>
481
482 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/12/">December (12)</a></li>
483
484 </ul></li>
485
486 <li>2009
487 <ul>
488
489 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/01/">January (8)</a></li>
490
491 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/02/">February (8)</a></li>
492
493 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/03/">March (12)</a></li>
494
495 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/04/">April (10)</a></li>
496
497 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/05/">May (9)</a></li>
498
499 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/06/">June (3)</a></li>
500
501 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/07/">July (4)</a></li>
502
503 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/08/">August (3)</a></li>
504
505 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/09/">September (1)</a></li>
506
507 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/10/">October (2)</a></li>
508
509 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/11/">November (3)</a></li>
510
511 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/12/">December (3)</a></li>
512
513 </ul></li>
514
515 <li>2008
516 <ul>
517
518 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2008/11/">November (5)</a></li>
519
520 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2008/12/">December (7)</a></li>
521
522 </ul></li>
523
524 </ul>
525
526
527
528 <h2>Tags</h2>
529 <ul>
530
531 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/3d-printer">3d-printer (19)</a></li>
532
533 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/amiga">amiga (1)</a></li>
534
535 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/aros">aros (1)</a></li>
536
537 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bankid">bankid (4)</a></li>
538
539 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/betalkontant">betalkontant (9)</a></li>
540
541 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bitcoin">bitcoin (13)</a></li>
542
543 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem (17)</a></li>
544
545 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bsa">bsa (2)</a></li>
546
547 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/chrpath">chrpath (3)</a></li>
548
549 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian (200)</a></li>
550
551 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu (159)</a></li>
552
553 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian-handbook">debian-handbook (9)</a></li>
554
555 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/digistan">digistan (11)</a></li>
556
557 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/dld">dld (18)</a></li>
558
559 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/docbook">docbook (33)</a></li>
560
561 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/drivstoffpriser">drivstoffpriser (4)</a></li>
562
563 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english (462)</a></li>
564
565 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fiksgatami">fiksgatami (23)</a></li>
566
567 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fildeling">fildeling (14)</a></li>
568
569 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/freeculture">freeculture (34)</a></li>
570
571 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/freedombox">freedombox (9)</a></li>
572
573 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/frikanalen">frikanalen (20)</a></li>
574
575 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/h264">h264 (20)</a></li>
576
577 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju (43)</a></li>
578
579 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/isenkram">isenkram (18)</a></li>
580
581 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart (23)</a></li>
582
583 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kodi">kodi (6)</a></li>
584
585 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap (9)</a></li>
586
587 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/lego">lego (5)</a></li>
588
589 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/lenker">lenker (8)</a></li>
590
591 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/linuxcnc">linuxcnc (6)</a></li>
592
593 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/lsdvd">lsdvd (2)</a></li>
594
595 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ltsp">ltsp (1)</a></li>
596
597 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/madewithcc">madewithcc (3)</a></li>
598
599 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/mesh network">mesh network (8)</a></li>
600
601 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia (46)</a></li>
602
603 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nice free software">nice free software (15)</a></li>
604
605 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/noark5">noark5 (25)</a></li>
606
607 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk (325)</a></li>
608
609 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug (199)</a></li>
610
611 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/offentlig innsyn">offentlig innsyn (41)</a></li>
612
613 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/open311">open311 (2)</a></li>
614
615 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opensnitch">opensnitch (4)</a></li>
616
617 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett (76)</a></li>
618
619 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern (114)</a></li>
620
621 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/raid">raid (4)</a></li>
622
623 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/reactos">reactos (1)</a></li>
624
625 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/reprap">reprap (11)</a></li>
626
627 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/rfid">rfid (3)</a></li>
628
629 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/robot">robot (17)</a></li>
630
631 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/rss">rss (1)</a></li>
632
633 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ruter">ruter (7)</a></li>
634
635 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/scraperwiki">scraperwiki (2)</a></li>
636
637 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet (60)</a></li>
638
639 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary (4)</a></li>
640
641 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/skepsis">skepsis (5)</a></li>
642
643 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard (76)</a></li>
644
645 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll (7)</a></li>
646
647 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/stortinget">stortinget (14)</a></li>
648
649 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/surveillance">surveillance (65)</a></li>
650
651 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sysadmin">sysadmin (5)</a></li>
652
653 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/usenix">usenix (2)</a></li>
654
655 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/valg">valg (9)</a></li>
656
657 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/verkidetfri">verkidetfri (22)</a></li>
658
659 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video (80)</a></li>
660
661 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/vitenskap">vitenskap (4)</a></li>
662
663 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web (42)</a></li>
664
665 </ul>
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