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23 <div class=
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"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades_of_the_Gnome_and_KDE_desktop__now_with_apt_get_autoremove.html">Lenny-
>Squeeze upgrades of the Gnome and KDE desktop, now with apt-get autoremove
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24 <div class=
"date">2010-
11-
22 14:
15</div>
26 <p>Michael Biebl suggested to me on IRC, that I changed my automated
27 upgrade testing of the
28 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/~pere/debian-upgrade-testing/">Lenny
29 Gnome and KDE Desktop
</a> to do
<tt>apt-get autoremove
</tt> when using apt-get.
30 This seem like a very good idea, so I adjusted by test scripts and
31 can now present the updated result from today:
</p>
33 <p>This is for Gnome:
</p>
35 <p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p>
49 freedesktop-sound-theme
51 gconf-defaults-service
66 gnome-desktop-environment
70 gnome-session-canberra
75 gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
84 libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3
87 libboost-date-time1.42
.0
91 libchamplain-gtk-
0.4-
0
100 libfreerdp-plugins-standard
115 libgnomepanel2.24-cil
120 libgtksourceview2.0-common
121 libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil
122 libmono-addins0.2-cil
124 libmono-corlib2.0-cil
125 libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil
127 libmono-security2.0-cil
128 libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil
129 libmono-system2.0-cil
132 libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil
143 libtelepathy-farsight0
152 nautilus-sendto-empathy
173 python-gtksourceview2
197 python-zope.interface
202 rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder
209 system-config-printer-udev
211 telepathy-mission-control-
5
224 <p>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
</p>
232 fast-user-switch-applet
251 libgtksourceview2.0-
0
259 system-config-printer
266 <p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p>
269 gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
272 <p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p>
278 <p>This is for KDE:
</p>
280 <p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p>
286 <p>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
</p>
293 <p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p>
311 kdeartwork-theme-icon
315 kdebase-workspace-bin
316 kdebase-workspace-data
345 plasma-dataengines-workspace
347 plasma-desktopthemes-artwork
348 plasma-runners-addons
349 plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets
350 plasma-scriptengine-python
351 plasma-scriptengine-qedje
352 plasma-scriptengine-ruby
353 plasma-scriptengine-webkit
355 plasma-wallpapers-addons
356 plasma-widget-folderview
357 plasma-widget-networkmanagement
361 xscreensaver-data-extra
363 xscreensaver-gl-extra
364 xscreensaver-screensaver-bsod
367 <p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p>
371 google-gadgets-common
394 libkonqsidebarplugin4a
403 libplasma-geolocation-interface4
405 libplasmagenericshell4
448 plasma-dataengines-addons
449 plasma-scriptengine-superkaramba
450 plasma-widget-lancelot
451 plasma-widgets-addons
452 plasma-widgets-workspace
456 update-notifier-common
459 <p>Running apt-get autoremove made the results using apt-get and
460 aptitude a bit more similar, but there are still quite a lott of
461 differences. I have no idea what packages should be installed after
462 the upgrade, but hope those that do can have a look.
</p>
468 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
472 <div class=
"padding"></div>
475 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Migrating_Xen_virtual_machines_using_LVM_to_KVM_using_disk_images.html">Migrating Xen virtual machines using LVM to KVM using disk images
</a></div>
476 <div class=
"date">2010-
11-
22 11:
20</div>
478 <p>Most of the computers in use by the
479 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu/Skolelinux project
</a>
480 are virtual machines. And they have been Xen machines running on a
481 fairly old IBM eserver xseries
345 machine, and we wanted to migrate
482 them to KVM on a newer Dell PowerEdge
2950 host machine. This was a
483 bit harder that it could have been, because we set up the Xen virtual
484 machines to get the virtual partitions from LVM, which as far as I
485 know is not supported by KVM. So to migrate, we had to convert
486 several LVM logical volumes to partitions on a virtual disk file.
</p>
489 <a href=
"http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com.au/articles/35011-Six-steps-for-migrating-Xen-virtual-machines-to-KVM">a
490 nice recipe
</a> to do this, and wrote the following script to do the
491 migration. It uses qemu-img from the qemu package to make the disk
492 image, parted to partition it, losetup and kpartx to present the disk
493 image partions as devices, and dd to copy the data. I NFS mounted the
494 new servers storage area on the old server to do the migration.
</p>
500 # http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com.au/articles/
35011-Six-steps-for-migrating-Xen-virtual-machines-to-KVM
505 if [ -z "$
1" ] ; then
506 echo "Usage: $
0 <hostname
>"
512 if [ ! -e /dev/vg_data/$host-disk ] ; then
513 echo "error: unable to find LVM volume for $host"
517 # Partitions need to be a bit bigger than the LVM LVs. not sure why.
518 disksize=$( lvs --units m | grep $host-disk | awk '{sum = sum + $
4} END { print int(sum *
1.05) }')
519 swapsize=$( lvs --units m | grep $host-swap | awk '{sum = sum + $
4} END { print int(sum *
1.05) }')
520 totalsize=$(( ( $disksize + $swapsize ) ))
523 #dd if=/dev/zero of=$img bs=
1M count=$(( $disksize + $swapsize ))
524 qemu-img create $img ${totalsize}MMaking room on the Debian Edu/Sqeeze DVD
526 parted $img mklabel msdos
527 parted $img mkpart primary linux-swap
0 $disksize
528 parted $img mkpart primary ext2 $disksize $totalsize
529 parted $img set
1 boot on
532 losetup /dev/loop0 $img
535 dd if=/dev/vg_data/$host-disk of=/dev/mapper/loop0p1 bs=
1M
536 fsck.ext3 -f /dev/mapper/loop0p1 || true
537 mkswap /dev/mapper/loop0p2
540 losetup -d /dev/loop0
543 <p>The script is perhaps so simple that it is not copyrightable, but
544 if it is, it is licenced using GPL v2 or later at your discretion.
</p>
546 <p>After doing this, I booted a Debian CD in rescue mode in KVM with
547 the new disk image attached, installed grub-pc and linux-image-
686 and
548 set up grub to boot from the disk image. After this, the KVM machines
549 seem to work just fine.
</p>
555 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
559 <div class=
"padding"></div>
562 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__apt_vs_aptitude_with_the_Gnome_and_KDE_desktop.html">Lenny-
>Squeeze upgrades, apt vs aptitude with the Gnome and KDE desktop
</a></div>
563 <div class=
"date">2010-
11-
20 22:
50</div>
565 <p>I'm still running upgrade testing of the
566 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/~pere/debian-upgrade-testing/">Lenny
567 Gnome and KDE Desktop
</a>, but have not had time to spend on reporting the
568 status. Here is a short update based on a test I ran
20101118.
</p>
570 <p>I still do not know what a correct migration should look like, so I
571 report any differences between apt and aptitude and hope someone else
572 can see if anything should be changed.
</p>
574 <p>This is for Gnome:
</p>
576 <p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p>
579 apache2.2-bin aptdaemon at-spi baobab binfmt-support
580 browser-plugin-gnash cheese-common cli-common cpp-
4.3 cups-pk-helper
581 dmz-cursor-theme empathy empathy-common finger
582 freedesktop-sound-theme freeglut3 gconf-defaults-service gdm-themes
583 gedit-plugins geoclue geoclue-hostip geoclue-localnet geoclue-manual
584 geoclue-yahoo gnash gnash-common gnome gnome-backgrounds
585 gnome-cards-data gnome-codec-install gnome-core
586 gnome-desktop-environment gnome-disk-utility gnome-screenshot
587 gnome-search-tool gnome-session-canberra gnome-spell
588 gnome-system-log gnome-themes-extras gnome-themes-more
589 gnome-user-share gs-common gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
590 gstreamer0.10-tools gtk2-engines gtk2-engines-pixbuf
591 gtk2-engines-smooth hal-info hamster-applet libapache2-mod-dnssd
592 libapr1 libaprutil1 libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap
593 libart2.0-cil libatspi1.0-
0 libboost-date-time1.42
.0
594 libboost-python1.42
.0 libboost-thread1.42
.0 libchamplain-
0.4-
0
595 libchamplain-gtk-
0.4-
0 libcheese-gtk18 libclutter-gtk-
0.10-
0
596 libcryptui0 libcupsys2 libdiscid0 libeel2-data libelf1 libepc-
1.0-
2
597 libepc-common libepc-ui-
1.0-
2 libfreerdp-plugins-standard
598 libfreerdp0 libgail-common libgconf2.0-cil libgdata-common libgdata7
599 libgdl-
1-common libgdu-gtk0 libgee2 libgeoclue0 libgexiv2-
0 libgif4
600 libglade2.0-cil libglib2.0-cil libgmime2.4-cil libgnome-vfs2.0-cil
601 libgnome2.24-cil libgnomepanel2.24-cil libgnomeprint2.2-data
602 libgnomeprintui2.2-common libgnomevfs2-bin libgpod-common libgpod4
603 libgtk2.0-cil libgtkglext1 libgtksourceview-common
604 libgtksourceview2.0-common libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil
605 libmono-addins0.2-cil libmono-cairo2.0-cil libmono-corlib2.0-cil
606 libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil libmono-posix2.0-cil
607 libmono-security2.0-cil libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil
608 libmono-system2.0-cil libmtp8 libmusicbrainz3-
6
609 libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil libndesk-dbus1.0-cil libopal3.6
.8
610 libpolkit-gtk-
1-
0 libpt-
1.10.10-plugins-alsa
611 libpt-
1.10.10-plugins-v4l libpt2.6
.7 libpython2.6 librpm1 librpmio1
612 libsdl1.2debian libservlet2.4-java libsrtp0 libssh-
4
613 libtelepathy-farsight0 libtelepathy-glib0 libtidy-
0.99-
0
614 libxalan2-java libxerces2-java media-player-info mesa-utils
615 mono-
2.0-gac mono-gac mono-runtime nautilus-sendto
616 nautilus-sendto-empathy openoffice.org-writer2latex
617 openssl-blacklist p7zip p7zip-full pkg-config python-
4suite-xml
618 python-aptdaemon python-aptdaemon-gtk python-axiom
619 python-beautifulsoup python-bugbuddy python-clientform
620 python-coherence python-configobj python-crypto python-cupshelpers
621 python-cupsutils python-eggtrayicon python-elementtree
622 python-epsilon python-evolution python-feedparser python-gdata
623 python-gdbm python-gst0.10 python-gtkglext1 python-gtkmozembed
624 python-gtksourceview2 python-httplib2 python-louie python-mako
625 python-markupsafe python-mechanize python-nevow python-notify
626 python-opengl python-openssl python-pam python-pkg-resources
627 python-pyasn1 python-pysqlite2 python-rdflib python-serial
628 python-tagpy python-twisted-bin python-twisted-conch
629 python-twisted-core python-twisted-web python-utidylib python-webkit
630 python-xdg python-zope.interface remmina remmina-plugin-data
631 remmina-plugin-rdp remmina-plugin-vnc rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder
632 rhythmbox-plugins rpm-common rpm2cpio seahorse-plugins shotwell
633 software-center svgalibg1 system-config-printer-udev
634 telepathy-gabble telepathy-mission-control-
5 telepathy-salut tomboy
635 totem totem-coherence totem-mozilla totem-plugins
636 transmission-common xdg-user-dirs xdg-user-dirs-gtk xserver-xephyr
640 Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
643 arj bluez-utils cheese dhcdbd djvulibre-desktop ekiga eog
644 epiphany-extensions epiphany-gecko evolution-exchange
645 fast-user-switch-applet file-roller gcalctool gconf-editor gdm gedit
646 gedit-common gnome-app-install gnome-games gnome-games-data
647 gnome-nettool gnome-system-tools gnome-themes gnome-utils
648 gnome-vfs-obexftp gnome-volume-manager gnuchess gucharmap
649 guile-
1.8-libs hal libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-core5
650 libavahi-ui0 libbind9-
50 libbluetooth2 libcamel1.2-
11 libcdio7
651 libcucul0 libcurl3 libdirectfb-
1.0-
0 libdmx1 libdvdread3
652 libedata-cal1.2-
6 libedataserver1.2-
9 libeel2-
2.20 libepc-
1.0-
1
653 libepc-ui-
1.0-
1 libexchange-storage1.2-
3 libfaad0 libgadu3
654 libgalago3 libgd2-noxpm libgda3-
3 libgda3-common libggz2 libggzcore9
655 libggzmod4 libgksu1.2-
0 libgksuui1.0-
1 libgmyth0 libgnome-desktop-
2
656 libgnome-pilot2 libgnomecups1.0-
1 libgnomeprint2.2-
0
657 libgnomeprintui2.2-
0 libgpod3 libgraphviz4 libgtk-vnc-
1.0-
0
658 libgtkhtml2-
0 libgtksourceview1.0-
0 libgtksourceview2.0-
0
659 libgucharmap6 libhesiod0 libicu38 libisccc50 libisccfg50 libiw29
660 libjaxp1.3-java-gcj libkpathsea4 liblircclient0 libltdl3 liblwres50
661 libmagick++
10 libmagick10 libmalaga7 libmozjs1d libmpfr1ldbl libmtp7
662 libmysqlclient15off libnautilus-burn4 libneon27 libnm-glib0
663 libnm-util0 libopal-
2.2 libosp5 libparted1.8-
10 libpisock9
664 libpisync1 libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler3 libpt-
1.10.10 libraw1394-
8
665 libsdl1.2debian-alsa libsensors3 libsexy2 libsmbios2 libsoup2.2-
8
666 libspeexdsp1 libssh2-
1 libsuitesparse-
3.1.0 libsvga1
667 libswfdec-
0.6-
90 libtalloc1 libtotem-plparser10 libtrackerclient0
668 libvoikko1 libxalan2-java-gcj libxerces2-java-gcj libxklavier12
669 libxtrap6 libxxf86misc1 libzephyr3 mysql-common rhythmbox seahorse
670 sound-juicer swfdec-gnome system-config-printer totem-common
671 totem-gstreamer transmission-gtk vinagre vino w3c-dtd-xhtml wodim
674 <p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p>
677 gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
680 <p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p>
686 <p>This is for KDE:
</p>
688 <p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p>
691 autopoint bomber bovo cantor cantor-backend-kalgebra cpp-
4.3 dcoprss
692 edict espeak espeak-data eyesapplet fifteenapplet finger gettext
693 ghostscript-x git gnome-audio gnugo granatier gs-common
694 gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio indi kaddressbook-plugins kalgebra
695 kalzium-data kanjidic kapman kate-plugins kblocks kbreakout kbstate
696 kde-icons-mono kdeaccessibility kdeaddons-kfile-plugins
697 kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-theme-window
698 kdeedu kdeedu-data kdeedu-kvtml-data kdegames kdegames-card-data
699 kdegames-mahjongg-data kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelirc
700 kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdenetwork-kfile-plugins
701 kdepim-kfile-plugins kdepim-kio-plugins kdessh kdetoys kdewebdev
702 kdiamond kdnssd kfilereplace kfourinline kgeography-data kigo
703 killbots kiriki klettres-data kmoon kmrml knewsticker-scripts
704 kollision kpf krosspython ksirk ksmserver ksquares kstars-data
705 ksudoku kubrick kweather libasound2-plugins libboost-python1.42
.0
706 libcfitsio3 libconvert-binhex-perl libcrypt-ssleay-perl libdb4.6++
707 libdjvulibre-text libdotconf1.0 liberror-perl libespeak1
708 libfinance-quote-perl libgail-common libgsl0ldbl libhtml-parser-perl
709 libhtml-tableextract-perl libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl
710 libio-stringy-perl libkdeedu4 libkdegames5 libkiten4 libkpathsea5
711 libkrossui4 libmailtools-perl libmime-tools-perl
712 libnews-nntpclient-perl libopenbabel3 libportaudio2 libpulse-browse0
713 libservlet2.4-java libspeechd2 libtiff-tools libtimedate-perl
714 libunistring0 liburi-perl libwww-perl libxalan2-java libxerces2-java
715 lirc luatex marble networkstatus noatun-plugins
716 openoffice.org-writer2latex palapeli palapeli-data parley
717 parley-data poster psutils pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat
718 pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-utils quanta-data rocs rsync
719 speech-dispatcher step svgalibg1 texlive-binaries texlive-luatex
723 <p>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
</p>
726 amor artsbuilder atlantik atlantikdesigner blinken bluez-utils cvs
727 dhcdbd djvulibre-desktop imlib-base imlib11 kalzium kanagram kandy
728 kasteroids katomic kbackgammon kbattleship kblackbox kbounce kbruch
729 kcron kdat kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data kdeprint kdict kdvi kedit
730 keduca kenolaba kfax kfaxview kfouleggs kgeography kghostview
731 kgoldrunner khangman khexedit kiconedit kig kimagemapeditor
732 kitchensync kiten kjumpingcube klatin klettres klickety klines
733 klinkstatus kmag kmahjongg kmailcvt kmenuedit kmid kmilo kmines
734 kmousetool kmouth kmplot knetwalk kodo kolf kommander konquest kooka
735 kpager kpat kpdf kpercentage kpilot kpoker kpovmodeler krec
736 kregexpeditor kreversi ksame ksayit kshisen ksig ksim ksirc ksirtet
737 ksmiletris ksnake ksokoban kspaceduel kstars ksvg ksysv kteatime
738 ktip ktnef ktouch ktron kttsd ktuberling kturtle ktux kuickshow
739 kverbos kview kviewshell kvoctrain kwifimanager kwin kwin4 kwordquiz
740 kworldclock kxsldbg libakode2 libarts1-akode libarts1-audiofile
741 libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libavahi-compat-libdnssd1
742 libavahi-core5 libavc1394-
0 libbind9-
50 libbluetooth2
743 libboost-python1.34
.1 libcucul0 libcurl3 libcvsservice0
744 libdirectfb-
1.0-
0 libdjvulibre21 libdvdread3 libfaad0 libfreebob0
745 libgd2-noxpm libgraphviz4 libgsmme1c2a libgtkhtml2-
0 libicu38
746 libiec61883-
0 libindex0 libisccc50 libisccfg50 libiw29
747 libjaxp1.3-java-gcj libk3b3 libkcal2b libkcddb1 libkdeedu3
748 libkdegames1 libkdepim1a libkgantt0 libkleopatra1 libkmime2
749 libkpathsea4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libkscan1
750 libksieve0 libktnef1 liblockdev1 libltdl3 liblwres50 libmagick10
751 libmimelib1c2a libmodplug0c2 libmozjs1d libmpcdec3 libmpfr1ldbl
752 libneon27 libnm-util0 libopensync0 libpisock9 libpoppler-glib3
753 libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler3 libraw1394-
8 librss1 libsensors3
754 libsmbios2 libssh2-
1 libsuitesparse-
3.1.0 libswfdec-
0.6-
90
755 libtalloc1 libxalan2-java-gcj libxerces2-java-gcj libxtrap6 lskat
756 mpeglib network-manager-kde noatun pmount tex-common texlive-base
757 texlive-common texlive-doc-base texlive-fonts-recommended tidy
758 ttf-dustin ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-sjfonts
761 <p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p>
764 dolphin kde-core kde-plasma-desktop kde-standard kde-window-manager
765 kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-apps kdebase-workspace
766 kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-data kdeutils kscreensaver
767 kscreensaver-xsavers libgle3 libkonq5 libkonq5-templates libnetpbm10
768 netpbm plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-networkmanagement
769 xscreensaver-data-extra xscreensaver-gl xscreensaver-gl-extra
770 xscreensaver-screensaver-bsod
773 <p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p>
776 kdebase-bin konq-plugins konqueror
783 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
787 <div class=
"padding"></div>
790 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gnash_buildbot_slave_and_Debian_kfreebsd.html">Gnash buildbot slave and Debian kfreebsd
</a></div>
791 <div class=
"date">2010-
11-
20 07:
20</div>
794 <a href=
"http://www.listware.net/201011/gnash-dev/67431-gnash-dev-buildbot-looking-for-slaves.html">the
795 call from the Gnash project
</a> for
796 <a href=
"http://www.gnashdev.org:8010">buildbot
</a> slaves to test the
797 current source, I have set up a virtual KVM machine on the Debian
798 Edu/Skolelinux virtualization host to test the git source on
799 Debian/Squeeze. I hope this can help the developers in getting new
800 releases out more often.
</p>
802 <p>As the developers want less main-stream build platforms tested to,
803 I have considered setting up a
<a
804 href=
"http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/">Debian/kfreebsd
</a>
805 machine as well. I have also considered using the kfreebsd
806 architecture in Debian as a file server in NUUG to get access to the
5
807 TB zfs volume we currently use to store DV video. Because of this, I
808 finally got around to do a test installation of Debian/Squeeze with
809 kfreebsd. Installation went fairly smooth, thought I noticed some
810 visual glitches in the cdebconf dialogs (black cursor left on the
811 screen at random locations). Have not gotten very far with the
812 testing. Noticed cfdisk did not work, but fdisk did so it was not a
813 fatal problem. Have to spend some more time on it to see if it is
814 useful as a file server for NUUG. Will try to find time to set up a
815 gnash buildbot slave on the Debian Edu/Skolelinux this weekend.
</p>
821 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
825 <div class=
"padding"></div>
828 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/N___er_74_norske_overv__kningskamera_registert_i_OpenStreetmap_org.html">Nå er
74 norske overvåkningskamera registert i OpenStreetmap.org
</a></div>
829 <div class=
"date">2010-
11-
18 11:
25</div>
831 <p>Jeg oppdaterte nettopp kartet med overvåkningskamera som
832 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Kart_over_overv__kningskamera_i_Norge.html">jeg
833 startet
</a> for ca. et og et halvt år siden, og nå er det
74 kamera på
834 plass. I prosessen med å oppdatere kartet oppdaget jeg ved en
835 tilfeldighet at webreferansen til registermeldingen hos Datatilsynet
836 nå ikke lenger er gyldig (se
837 <a href=
"http://hetti.datatilsynet.no/melding/report_view.pl?id=31062">tidligere
838 melding
</a>). Antar Datatilsynet fjerner utdaterte meldinger fra
839 databasen. Konsekvensen blir at kameraoversikten i OSM må ha med
840 søkekriteriene som ble brukt for å finne registermeldingen
841 (dvs. virksomhetsnavn og organisasjonsnummer), slik at eventuelt nye
842 meldinger for samme kamera kan finnes igjen.
</p>
844 <p>Det er dukket opp kamera på
845 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.no/pere/surveillance-norway/">kartet
</a>
846 i Bergensområdet, Stavangerområdet, Osloområdet, Gjøvikområdet og i
847 Troms. Mange områder og kamera mangler, og jeg er overbevist om at
848 bare en brøkdel av den enorme mengden kamera som nå finnes i det
849 offentlige rom er registrert så langt. Instrukser for å legge inn
850 kamera finnes på websiden for kartet hos
851 <a href=
"http://personvern.no/wiki/index.php/Kameraovervåkning">personvernforeningen
</a>.
</p>
857 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern
</a>.
861 <div class=
"padding"></div>
864 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gjendikte_sangen__Copying_Is_Not_Theft__p___Norsk_.html">Gjendikte sangen "Copying Is Not Theft" på Norsk?
</a></div>
865 <div class=
"date">2010-
11-
10 14:
40</div>
867 <p>En genial liten sang om kopiering og tyveri er
868 <a href=
"http://www.archive.org/details/CopyingIsNotTheft">Copying Is
869 Not Theft
</a> av Nina Paley. Den vil jeg at
870 <a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/">NUUG
</a> skal sende på
871 <a href=
"http://www.frikanalen.no/">Frikanalen
</a>, men først må vi
872 fikse norske undertekster eller dubbing. Og i og med at det er en
873 sang, tror jeg den kanskje bør gjendiktes.
875 Selve teksten finner en på bloggen til
876 <a href=
"http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/12/15/minute-meme-1-copying-is-not-theft/">tekstforfatteren
</a> og den ser slik ut:
879 <p>Copying is not theft.
880 <br>Stealing a thing leaves one less left
881 <br>Copying it makes one thing more;
882 <br>that's what copying's for.
</p>
884 <p>Copying is not theft.
885 <br>If I copy yours you have it too
886 <br>One for me and one for you
887 <br>That's what copies can do
</p>
889 <p>If I steal your bicycle
890 <br>you have to take the bus,
891 <br>but if I just copy it
892 <br>there's one for each of us!
</p>
894 <p>Making more of a thing,
895 <br>that is what we call "copying"
896 <br>Sharing ideas with everyone
897 <br>That's why copying
902 <p>Her er et naivt forsøk på oversettelse, uten noe forsøk på
903 gjendiktning eller få det til å flyte sammen med melodien.
</p>
906 <p>Kopiering er ikke tyveri.
907 <br>Stjeler du en ting er det en mindre igjen
908 <br>Kopier den og det er ting til.
909 <br>det er derfor vi har kopiering.
</p>
911 <p>Kopiering er ikke tyveri.
912 <br>Hvis jeg kopierer din så har du den fortsatt
913 <br>En for meg og en for deg.
914 <br>Det er det kopier gir oss
</p>
916 <p>Hvis jeg stjeler sykkelen din
917 <br>så må du ta bussen,
918 <br>men hvis jeg bare kopierer den,
919 <br>så får vi hver vår!
</p>
921 <p>Lage mer av en ting,
922 <br>det er det vi kaller "kopiering".
923 <br>Deler ideer med enhver
924 <br>Det er derfor kopiering
929 <p>Hvis du har forslag til bedre oversettelse eller lyst til å bidra
930 til å få denne sangen over i norsk språkdrakt, ta kontakt med video
937 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fildeling">fildeling
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern
</a>.
941 <div class=
"padding"></div>
944 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_in_3D.html">Debian in
3D
</a></div>
945 <div class=
"date">2010-
11-
09 16:
10</div>
947 <p><img src=
"http://thingiverse-production.s3.amazonaws.com/renders/23/e0/c4/f9/2b/debswagtdose_preview_medium.jpg"></p>
949 <p>3D printing is just great. I just came across this Debian logo in
951 <a href=
"http://blog.thingiverse.com/2010/11/09/participatory-branding/">the
952 thingiverse blog
</a>.
</p>
958 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/3d-printer">3d-printer
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
962 <div class=
"padding"></div>
965 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Datatilsynet_mangler_verkt__yet_som_trengs_for____kontrollere_kameraoverv__kning.html">Datatilsynet mangler verktøyet som trengs for å kontrollere kameraovervåkning
</a></div>
966 <div class=
"date">2010-
11-
09 14:
35</div>
968 <p>En stund tilbake ble jeg oppmerksom på at Datatilsynets verktøy for
969 å holde rede på overvåkningskamera i Norge ikke var egnet til annet
970 enn å lage statistikk, og ikke kunne brukes for å kontrollere om et
971 overvåkningskamera i det offentlige rom er lovlig satt opp og
972 registrert. For å teste hypotesen sendte jeg for noen dager siden
973 følgende spørsmål til datatilsynet. Det omtalte kameraet står litt
974 merkelig plassert i veigrøften ved gangstien langs Sandakerveien, og
975 jeg lurer oppriktig på om det er lovlig plassert og registrert.
</p>
978 <p>Date: Tue,
2 Nov
2010 16:
08:
20 +
0100
979 <br>From: Petter Reinholdtsen
<pere (at) hungry.com
>
980 <br>To: postkasse (at) datatilsynet.no
981 <br>Subject: Er overvåkningskameraet korrekt registrert?
</p>
985 <p>I Nydalen i Oslo er det mange overvåkningskamera, og et av dem er
986 spesielt merkelig plassert like over et kumlokk. Jeg lurer på om
987 dette kameraet er korrekt registrert og i henhold til lovverket.
</p>
989 <p>Finner ingen eierinformasjon på kameraet, og dermed heller ingenting å
991 <a href=
"http://hetti.datatilsynet.no/melding/report_search.pl">http://hetti.datatilsynet.no/melding/report_search.pl
</a> >.
992 Kartreferanse for kameraet er tilgjengelig fra
994 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.no/pere/surveillance-norway/?zoom=17&lat=59.94918&lon=10.76962&layers=B0T">http://people.skolelinux.no/pere/surveillance-norway/?zoom=
17&lat=
59.94918&lon=
10.76962&layers=B0T
</a> >.
996 <p>Kan dere fortelle meg om dette kameraet er registrert hos
997 Datatilsynet som det skal være i henhold til lovverket?
</p>
999 <p>Det hadde forresten vært fint om rådata fra kameraregisteret var
1000 tilgjengelig på web og regelmessig oppdatert, for å kunne søke på
1001 andre ting enn organisasjonsnavn og -nummer ved å laste det ned og
1006 <br>Petter Reinholdtsen
1009 <p>Her er svaret som kom dagen etter:
</p>
1012 <p>Date: Wed,
3 Nov
2010 14:
44:
09 +
0100
1013 <br>From: "juridisk"
<juridisk (at) Datatilsynet.no
>
1014 <br>To: Petter Reinholdtsen
1015 <br>Subject: VS: Er overvåkningskameraet korrekt registrert?
1017 <p>Viser til e-post av
2. november.
1019 <p>Datatilsynet er det forvaltningsorganet som skal kontrollere at
1020 personopplysningsloven blir fulgt. Formålet med loven er å verne
1021 enkeltpersoner mot krenking av personvernet gjennom behandling av
1022 personopplysninger.
</p>
1024 <p>Juridisk veiledningstjeneste hos Datatilsynet gir råd og veiledning
1025 omkring personopplysningslovens regler på generelt grunnlag.
</p>
1027 <p>Datatilsynet har dessverre ikke en fullstendig oversikt over alle
1028 kameraer, den oversikten som finner er i vår meldingsdatabase som du
1030 <a href=
"http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____211.aspx">http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____211.aspx
</a></p>
1032 <p>Denne databasen gir en oversikt over virksomheter som har meldt inn
1033 kameraovervåkning. Dersom man ikek vet hvilken virksomhet som er
1034 ansvarlig, er det heller ikke mulig for Datatilsynet å søke dette
1037 <p>Webkameraer som har så dårlig oppløsning at man ikke kan gjenkjenne
1038 enkeltpersoner er ikke meldepliktige, da dette ikke anses som
1039 kameraovervåkning i personopplysningslovens forstand. Dersom kameraet
1040 du sikter til er et slikt webkamera, vil det kanskje ikke finnes i
1041 meldingsdatabasen på grunn av dette. Også dersom et kamera med god
1042 oppløsning ikke filmer mennesker, faller det utenfor loven.
</p>
1044 <p>Datatilsynet har laget en veileder som gjennomgår når det er lov å
1045 overvåke med kamera, se lenke:
1046 <a href=
"http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____401.aspx">http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____401.aspx
</a></p>
1048 <p>Dersom det ikke er klart hvem som er ansvarlig for kameraet, er det
1049 vanskelig for Datatilsynet å ta kontakt med den ansvarlige for å få
1050 avklart om kameraet er satt opp i tråd med tilsynets regelverk. Dersom
1051 du mener at kameraet ikke er lovlig ut fra informasjonen ovenfor, kan
1052 kameraet anmeldes til politiet.
</p>
1054 <p>Med vennlig hilsen
</p>
1057 <br>Juridisk veiledningstjeneste
1058 <br>Datatilsynet
</p>
1061 <p>Personlig synes jeg det bør være krav om å registrere hvert eneste
1062 overvåkningskamera i det offentlige rom hos Datatilsynet, med
1063 kartreferanse og begrunnelse om hvorfor det er satt opp, slik at
1064 enhver borger enkelt kan hente ut kart over områder vi er interessert
1065 i og sjekke om det er overvåkningskamera der som er satt opp uten å
1066 være registert. Slike registreringer skal jo i dag fornyes
1067 regelmessing, noe jeg mistenker ikke blir gjort. Dermed kan kamera
1068 som en gang var korrekt registrert nå være ulovlig satt opp. Det
1069 burde også være bøter for å ha kamera som ikke er korrekt registrert,
1070 slik at en ikke kan ignorere registrering uten at det får
1073 <p>En ide fra England som jeg har sans (lite annet jeg har sans for
1074 når det gjelder overvåkningskamera i England) for er at enhver borger
1075 kan be om å få kopi av det som er tatt opp med et overvåkningskamera i
1076 det offentlige rom, noe som gjør at det kan komme løpende utgifter ved
1077 å sette overvåkningskamera. Jeg tror alt som gjør det mindre
1078 attraktivt å ha overvåkningskamera i det offentlige rom er en god
1079 ting, så et slikt lovverk i Norge tror jeg hadde vært nyttig.
</p>
1085 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet
</a>.
1089 <div class=
"padding"></div>
1092 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Making_room_on_the_Debian_Edu_Sqeeze_DVD.html">Making room on the Debian Edu/Sqeeze DVD
</a></div>
1093 <div class=
"date">2010-
11-
07 11:
45</div>
1095 <p>Prioritising packages for the Debian Edu /
1096 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a> DVD, which is
1097 supposed provide a school with all the services and user applications
1098 needed on the pupils computer network has always been hard. Even
1099 schools without Internet connections should be able to get Debian Edu
1100 working using this DVD.
</p>
1102 <p>The job became a lot harder when apt and aptitude started
1103 installing recommended packages by default. We want the same set of
1104 packages to be installed when using the DVD and the netinst CD, and
1105 that means all recommended packages need to be on the DVD. I created
1106 a patch for debian-cd in
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/601203">BTS
1107 report #
601203</a> to do this, and since this change was applied to
1108 the Debian Edu DVD build, we have been seriously short on space.
</p>
1110 <p>A few days ago we decided to drop blender, wxmaxima and kicad from
1111 the default installation to save space on the DVD, believing that
1112 those needing these applications are few and can get them from the
1115 <p>Yesterday, I had a look what source packages to see which packages
1116 were using most space. A few large packages are well know;
1117 openoffice.org, openclipart and fluid-soundfont. But I also
1118 discovered that lilypond used
106 MiB and fglrx-driver used
53 MiB.
1119 The lilypond package is pulled in as a dependency for rosegarden, and
1120 when looking a bit closer I discovered that
99 MiB of the
106 MiB were
1121 the documentation package, which is recommended by the binary package.
1122 I decided to drop this documentation package from our DVD, as most of
1123 our users will use the GUI front-ends and do not need the lilypond
1124 documentation. Similarly, I dropped the non-free fglrx-driver package
1125 which might be installed by d-i when its hardware is detected, as the
1126 free X driver should work.
</p>
1128 <p>With this change, we finally got space for the LXDE and Gnome
1129 desktop packages as well as the language specific packages making the
1130 DVD more useful again.
</p>
1136 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
1140 <div class=
"padding"></div>
1143 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Norgeskartet_p___mange_vis___via_OpenStreetmap_org.html">Norgeskartet på mange vis - via OpenStreetmap.org
</a></div>
1144 <div class=
"date">2010-
11-
01 11:
15</div>
1146 <p>Har oppdaget at mange ikke er klar over at OpenStreetmap.org er
1147 tilgjengelig i en rekke forskjellige formater. Her er en liste med
1148 eksporter jeg kjenner til for Norge, for de som trenger et
1149 fribrukskart til sine tjenester:
</p>
1153 <li>Cloudmade tilbyr OSM XML, Garmin Map Files, Osmosis country
1154 bounding polygon, Shapefile, Navit maps, GPX POI, TomTom POI og OSM
1155 XML feature extracts via
1156 <a href=
"http://downloads.cloudmade.com/europe/norway">sine
1157 nedlastingssider
</a>.
</li>
1159 <li>Geofabric tilbyr
1160 <a href=
"http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/norway.osm.bz2">OSM
1162 <a href=
"http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/norway.osm.pbf">OSM
1163 protobuf binærformat
</a> og
1164 <a href=
"http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/norway.shp.zip">ESRI
1165 Shapefile (EPSG:
4326)
</a> fra sine nedlastingssider.
</li>
1167 <li>Frikart.no tilbyr
1168 <a href=
"http://www.frikart.no/garmin/">Garmin-kart
</a> i uike
1169 varianter for veibruk og turbruk sommer og vinter.
</li>
1173 <p>Kartene oppdateres regelmessig, som oftest hver uke. Det skulle
1174 dermed være noe for enhver smak.
</p>
1180 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web
</a>.
1184 <div class=
"padding"></div>
1186 <p style=
"text-align: right;"><a href=
"index.rss"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/xml.gif" alt=
"RSS feed" width=
"36" height=
"14"></a></p>
1200 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/01/">January (
2)
</a></li>
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"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/02/">February (
1)
</a></li>
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"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/03/">March (
3)
</a></li>
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3)
</a></li>
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</a></li>
1227 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/01/">January (
8)
</a></li>
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"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/02/">February (
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3)
</a></li>
1249 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/12/">December (
3)
</a></li>
1256 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2008/11/">November (
5)
</a></li>
1258 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2008/12/">December (
7)
</a></li>
1269 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/3d-printer">3d-printer (
12)
</a></li>
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"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/amiga">amiga (
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</a></li>
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</a></li>
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"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fildeling">fildeling (
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"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart (
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1289 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap (
8)
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1291 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/lenker">lenker (
4)
</a></li>
1293 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ltsp">ltsp (
1)
</a></li>
1295 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia (
10)
</a></li>
1297 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk (
90)
</a></li>
1299 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug (
113)
</a></li>
1301 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett (
18)
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1303 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern (
25)
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1305 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/reprap">reprap (
10)
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1307 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/robot">robot (
4)
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1309 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/rss">rss (
1)
</a></li>
1311 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet (
18)
</a></li>
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"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary (
3)
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1315 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard (
16)
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1317 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll (
1)
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1319 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video (
15)
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1321 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/vitenskap">vitenskap (
1)
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1323 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web (
13)
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