1 <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC
"-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
2 "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
3 <html xmlns=
"http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" dir=
"ltr">
5 <meta http-equiv=
"Content-Type" content=
"text/html;charset=utf-8" />
6 <title>Petter Reinholdtsen: entries from May
2012</title>
7 <link rel=
"stylesheet" type=
"text/css" media=
"screen" href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/style.css" />
8 <link rel=
"stylesheet" type=
"text/css" media=
"screen" href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/vim.css" />
9 <link rel=
"alternate" title=
"RSS Feed" href=
"05.rss" type=
"application/rss+xml" />
15 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen
</a>
22 <h3>Entries from May
2012.
</h3>
26 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Intervju_med_digi_no_om_Norge_Digitalt_og_Openstreetmap.html">Intervju med digi.no om Norge Digitalt og Openstreetmap
</a>
32 <p>I går ble jeg kontaktet på epost av
33 <a href=
"http://www.digi.no">digi.no
</a>s Eirik Rossen som lurte på om
34 jeg hadde noen kommentarer til
35 <a href=
"http://www.statkart.no/statkart.ny.no/nor/Statens_kartverk/Om_Statens_kartverk/Pressesenter/Nyhetsarkiv/Nyheter_2012/mai/Norge+i+tet+på+digitale+kartdata.d25-SwZLMWg.ips">kartverkets
36 pressemelding
</a> om Norges tetplassering når det gjelder
37 kart-tilgjengelighet. Jeg svarte følgende, som resulterte i noen
39 <a href=
"http://www.digi.no/895420/norge-i-tet-paa-digitale-kartdata#debatt">Digis
40 dekning
</a> av kartverkets pressemelding.
</p>
43 <p>Takk for muligheten til å kommentere.
</p>
45 <p>Pressemeldingen omhandler tilgjengeligheten av kart for aktører som er
46 medlem i kartellet Norge Digitalt. Det er ingen overraskelse for meg
47 at tilgjengeligheten til kart hos disse medlemmene er god. Men for
48 oss på utsiden av kartellet er tilgjengelighet av det som burde være
49 felleskapets og innbyggernes kart dårlig.
</p>
51 <p>Bruksvilkårene til kartene fra medlemmene i Norge Digital hindrer
52 nyskapning og selv om en er villig til å betale den ublu prisen som
53 forlanges får en fortsatt ikke tilgang til kartdata uten
54 bruksbegresninger. Derfor bruker jeg heller tid på å gjøre
55 fribrukskartet OpenStreetmap bedre. Der fremmer bruksvilkårene
56 nyskapning og lar meg skape nye tjenester uten å måtte søke om
57 tillatelse fra det offentlige.
</p>
59 <p>En annen problemstilling er jo sikkerhet til fjells og til sjøs.
60 Mon tro hvor mange ulykker på sjøen som kunne vært unngått hvis
61 sjøkartdata var tilgjengelig uten bruksbegrensninger, slik at enhver
62 med GPS eller kartplotter tilnærmet kostnadsfritt kunne sikre seg mest
63 mulig oppdaterte sjøkart? Det hjelper jo ikke at offentlige etater
64 har enkel tilgang til sjøkartene når det samme ikke gjelder hver
65 båtkaptein og småbåtfører. Jeg tror samfunnet som helhet hadde tjent
66 på å unngå kostnadene ved disse ulykkene ved å tvinge sjøkartverket
67 til å publisere sine kartdata på Internet uten bruksbegresninger.
</p>
74 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
79 <div class=
"padding"></div>
83 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__J_rgen_Leibner.html">Debian Edu interview: Jürgen Leibner
</a>
89 <p>It has been a few busy weeks for me, but I am finally back to
90 publish another interview with the people behind
91 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a>.
92 This time it is one of our German developers, who have helped out over the
93 years to make sure both a lot of major but also a lot of the minor
94 details get right before release.
96 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
98 <p>My name is Jürgen Leibner, I'm
49 years old and living in
99 Bielefeld, a town in northern Germany. I worked nearly
20 years as
100 certified engineer in the department for plant design and layout of an
101 international company for machinery and equipment. Since
2011 I'm a
102 certified technical writer (tekom e.V.) and doing technical
103 documentations for a steam turbine manufacturer. From April this year
104 I will manage the department of technical documentation at a
105 manufacturer of automation and assembly line engineering.
</p>
107 <p>My first contact with linux was around
1993. Since that time I used
108 it at work and at home repeatedly but not exclusively as I do now at
111 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
112 project?
</strong></p>
114 <p>Once a day in the early year of
2001 when I wanted to fetch my
115 daughter from primary school, there was a teacher sitting in the
116 middle of
20 old computers trying to boot them and he failed. I helped
117 him to get them booting. That was seen by the school director and she
118 asked me if I would like to manage that the school gets all that old
119 computers in use. I answered: "Yes".
</p>
121 <p>Some weeks later every of the
10 classrooms had one computer
122 running Windows98. I began to collect old computers and equipment as
123 gifts and installed the first computer room with a peer-to-peer
124 network. I did my work at school without being payed in my spare time
125 and with a lot of fun. About one year later the school was connected
126 to Internet and a local area network was installed in the school
127 building. That was the time to have a server and I knew it must be a
128 Linux server to be able to fulfil all the wishes of the teachers and
129 being able to do this in a transparent and economic way, without extra
130 costs for things like licence and software. So I searched for a
131 school server system running under Linux and I found a couple of
132 people nearby who founded 'skolelinux.de'. It was the Skolelinux
133 prerelease
32 I first tried out for being used at the school. I
134 managed the IT of that school until the municipal authority took over
135 the IT management and centralised the services for all schools in
136 Bielefeld in December of
2006.
</p>
138 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
141 <p>When I'm looking back to the beginning, there were other advantages
144 <p>In the past there were advantages like:
</p>
148 <li>I don't need to buy it so it generates no costs to the school as
149 they had little money to spent for computers and software.
</li>
151 <li>It has a licence which grands all rights to use it without
154 <li>It was more able to fit all requirements of a server system for
155 schools than a Microsoft server system, even if there are only Windows
156 clients because of it's preconfigured overall concept of being a
157 infrastructure solution and community for schools, not only a
160 <li>I was able to configure the server to the needs of the
165 <p>Today some of the advantages has been lost, changed or new ones
166 came up in this way:
</p>
170 <li>Most schools here do have money to buy hardware and software
173 <li>They are today mostly managed from central IT departments which
174 have own concepts which often do not fit to Debian Edu concepts
175 because they are to close to Microsoft ideology.
</li>
177 <li>With the Squeeze version of Debian Edu which now uses GOsa² for
178 management I feel more able to manage the daily tasks than with the
179 interfaces used in the past.
</li>
181 <li>It is more modular than in the past and fits even better to the
182 different needs.
</li>
184 <li>The documentation is usable and gets better every day.
</li>
186 <li>More people than ever before are using Debian Edu all over the
187 world and so the community, which is an very important part I think,
188 is sharing knowledge and minds.
</li>
190 <li>Most, maybe all, of the technical requirements for schools are
191 solved today by Debian Edu.
</li>
195 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
200 <li>There are too few IT companies able to integrate Debian Edu into
201 their product portfolio for serving schools with concepts or even
202 whole municipality areas.
</li>
204 <li>Debian Edu has beside other free and open software projects not
205 enough lobbyists which promote free and open software to
208 <li>Technically there are no disadvantages I'm aware of.
</li>
212 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
214 <p>I use Debian stable on my home server and on my little desktop
215 computer. On my laptop I use Debian testing/sid. The applications I
216 use on my laptop and my desktop are Open/Libre-office, Iceweasel,
217 KMail, DigiKam, Amarok, Dolphin, okular and all the other programs I
218 need from the KDE environment. On console I use newsbeuter, mutt,
219 screen, irssi and all the other famous and useful tools.
</p>
221 <p>My home server provides mail services with exim, dovecot, roundcube
222 and mutt over ssh on the console, file services with samba, NFS,
223 rsync, web services with apache, moinmoin-wiki, multimedia services
224 with gallery2 and mediatomb and database services with MySQL for me
225 and the whole family. I probably forgot something.
</p>
227 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
228 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
230 <p>I believe, we should provide concepts for IT companies to integrate
231 Debian Edu into their product portfolio with use cases for different
232 countries and areas all over the world.
</p>
238 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
243 <div class=
"padding"></div>
247 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/D_r_Unix__eller_lever_den_videre_som_Linux_.html">Dør Unix, eller lever den videre som Linux?
</a>
253 <p>Peter Hidas fra Gartner melder i Computerworld at
254 <a href=
"http://www.idg.no/computerworld/article245011.ece">Unix
255 nedkjempes av Linux og Windows
</a>. For meg er påstanden meningsløs,
256 da Linux er en variant av Unix, og hele diskusjonen om Linux er Unix
257 eller ikke er utdatert og uinteressant. Jeg ser at Helge Skrivervik
258 deler mitt syn på saken i sin kommentar fra i går om at
259 "
<a href=
"http://www.mymayday.com/blogs/2012/unix-linux">Unix vs. Linux
260 = uinteressant"
</a>.
</p>
262 <p>I
<a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/">NUUG
</a>-sammenheng møter jeg av og
263 til folk som tror NUUG er for avdankede folk som driver med den samme
264 Unix-varianten som Peter Hidas skriver om i sin kommentar, og dermed
265 er en foreningen for avdankede teknologer interessert i døende
266 teknologi. Intet kunne være lengre fra sannheten.
</p>
268 <p>NUUG er en forening for oss som har sans for fri programvare, åpne
269 standarder og Unix-lignende operativsystemer, som Ubuntu, FreeBSD,
270 Debian, Mint, Gentoo, Android, Gnome, KDE, LXDE, Firefox, LibreOffice,
271 ODF, HTML, C++, ECMA-Script, etc. Kort sagt der nyskapning skjer på
272 IT-fronten i dag. Det innebærer selvfølgelig også de som er
273 interessert i de "gamle" Unix-ene som Solaris og HP-UX, men de er bare
274 et lite mindretall blant NUUGs medlemmer. De aller fleste medlemmene
275 har i dag fokus på Linux.
</p>
281 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
286 <div class=
"padding"></div>
288 <p style=
"text-align: right;"><a href=
"05.rss"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/xml.gif" alt=
"RSS Feed" width=
"36" height=
"14" /></a></p>
299 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/01/">January (
7)
</a></li>
301 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/02/">February (
10)
</a></li>
303 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/03/">March (
17)
</a></li>
305 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/04/">April (
12)
</a></li>
307 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/05/">May (
3)
</a></li>
314 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/01/">January (
16)
</a></li>
316 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/02/">February (
6)
</a></li>
318 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/03/">March (
6)
</a></li>
320 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/04/">April (
7)
</a></li>
322 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/05/">May (
3)
</a></li>
324 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/06/">June (
2)
</a></li>
326 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/07/">July (
7)
</a></li>
328 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/08/">August (
6)
</a></li>
330 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/09/">September (
4)
</a></li>
332 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/10/">October (
2)
</a></li>
334 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/11/">November (
3)
</a></li>
336 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/12/">December (
1)
</a></li>
343 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/01/">January (
2)
</a></li>
345 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/02/">February (
1)
</a></li>
347 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/03/">March (
3)
</a></li>
349 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/04/">April (
3)
</a></li>
351 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/05/">May (
9)
</a></li>
353 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/06/">June (
14)
</a></li>
355 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/07/">July (
12)
</a></li>
357 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/08/">August (
13)
</a></li>
359 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/09/">September (
7)
</a></li>
361 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/10/">October (
9)
</a></li>
363 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/11/">November (
13)
</a></li>
365 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/12/">December (
12)
</a></li>
372 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/01/">January (
8)
</a></li>
374 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/02/">February (
8)
</a></li>
376 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/03/">March (
12)
</a></li>
378 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/04/">April (
10)
</a></li>
380 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/05/">May (
9)
</a></li>
382 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/06/">June (
3)
</a></li>
384 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/07/">July (
4)
</a></li>
386 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/08/">August (
3)
</a></li>
388 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/09/">September (
1)
</a></li>
390 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/10/">October (
2)
</a></li>
392 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/11/">November (
3)
</a></li>
394 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/12/">December (
3)
</a></li>
401 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2008/11/">November (
5)
</a></li>
403 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2008/12/">December (
7)
</a></li>
414 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/3d-printer">3d-printer (
13)
</a></li>
416 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/amiga">amiga (
1)
</a></li>
418 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/aros">aros (
1)
</a></li>
420 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bitcoin">bitcoin (
2)
</a></li>
422 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem (
12)
</a></li>
424 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bsa">bsa (
2)
</a></li>
426 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian (
54)
</a></li>
428 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu (
100)
</a></li>
430 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/digistan">digistan (
8)
</a></li>
432 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english (
126)
</a></li>
434 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fiksgatami">fiksgatami (
15)
</a></li>
436 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fildeling">fildeling (
12)
</a></li>
438 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju (
24)
</a></li>
440 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart (
16)
</a></li>
442 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap (
8)
</a></li>
444 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/lenker">lenker (
4)
</a></li>
446 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ltsp">ltsp (
1)
</a></li>
448 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia (
16)
</a></li>
450 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk (
162)
</a></li>
452 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug (
125)
</a></li>
454 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/open311">open311 (
2)
</a></li>
456 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett (
24)
</a></li>
458 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern (
47)
</a></li>
460 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/raid">raid (
1)
</a></li>
462 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/reprap">reprap (
11)
</a></li>
464 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/rfid">rfid (
2)
</a></li>
466 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/robot">robot (
4)
</a></li>
468 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/rss">rss (
1)
</a></li>
470 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ruter">ruter (
4)
</a></li>
472 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet (
23)
</a></li>
474 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary (
4)
</a></li>
476 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard (
27)
</a></li>
478 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll (
1)
</a></li>
480 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/stortinget">stortinget (
4)
</a></li>
482 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/surveillance">surveillance (
9)
</a></li>
484 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/valg">valg (
6)
</a></li>
486 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video (
25)
</a></li>
488 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/vitenskap">vitenskap (
1)
</a></li>
490 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web (
19)
</a></li>
496 <p style=
"text-align: right">
497 Created by
<a href=
"http://steve.org.uk/Software/chronicle">Chronicle v4.4
</a>