1 Title: Debian Edu interview: Klaus Knopper
2 Tags: english, debian edu, intervju
5 <p>It has been a while since I managed to publish the last interview,
6 but my plans to let my readers hear from the people behind the
7 <ahref="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
8 project</a> are not dead.
12 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?</strong></p>
14 <p>I am Klaus Knopper. I have a master degree in electrical
15 engineering, and is currently professor in information management at
16 the university of applied sciences Kaiserslautern / Germany and
17 freelance Open Source software developer and consultant.</p>
19 <p>All of this is pretty much of the work I spend my days with. Apart
20 from teaching, I'm also conducting some more or less experimental
21 projects like the <ahref="www.knoppix.org">Knoppix GNU/Linux live
22 system</a> (Debian-based like Skolelinux),
23 <ahref="http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-adriane/index-en.html">ADRIANE</a>
24 (a blind-friendly talking desktop system) and
25 <ahref="http://www.knopper.net/linbo/index-en.html">LINBO</a>
26 (Linux-based network boot console, a fast remote install and repair
27 system supporting various operating systems).</p>
29 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
32 <p>The credit for this have to go to Kurt Gramlich, who is the German
33 coordinator for Skolelinux. We were looking for an all-in-one open
34 source community-supported distribution for schools, and Kurt
35 introduced us to Skolelinux for this purpose.</p>
37 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
41 <li>Quick installation,</li>
42 <li>works (almost) out of the box,</li>
43 <li>contains many useful software packages for teaching and learning,</li>
44 <li>is a purely community-based distro and not controlled by a
46 <li>has a large number of supporters and teachers who share their
47 experience and problem solutions.</li>
50 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
54 <li>Skolelinux is - as we had to learn - not easily upgradable to
55 the next version. Opposed to its genuine Debian base, upgrading to
56 a new version means a full new installation from scratch to get it
57 working again reliably.
59 <li>Skolelinux is based on Debian/stable, and therefore always a
60 little outdated in terms of program versions compared to Edubuntu or
61 similar educational Linux distros, which rather use Debian/testing
64 <li>Skolelinux has some very self-opinionated and stubborn default
65 configuration which in my opinion adds unnecessary complexity and is
66 not always suitable for a schools needs, the preset network
67 configuration is actually a core definition feature of Skolelinux
68 and not easy to change, so schools sometimes have to change their
69 network configuration to make it "Skolelinux-compatible".
71 <li>Some proposed extensions, which were made available as
72 contribution, like secure examination mode and lecture material
73 distribution and collection, were not accepted into the mainline
74 Skolelinux development and are now not easy to maintain in the
75 future because of Skolelinux somewhat undeterministic update
78 <li>Skolelinux has only a very tiny number of base developers
79 compared to Debian.</li>
83 <p>For these reasons and experience from our project, I would now
84 rather consider using plain Debian for schools next time, until
85 Skolelinux is more closely integrated into Debian and becomes
86 upgradeable without reinstallation.</p>
88 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?</strong></p>
90 <p>GNU/Linux with LXDE desktop, bash for interactive dialog and
91 programming, texlive for documentation and correspondence,
92 occasionally LibreOffice for document format conversion. Various
93 programming languages for teaching.</p>
95 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
96 get schools to use free software?</strong></p>
98 <p>Strong arguments are
102 <li>Knowledge is free, and so should be methods and tools for
103 teaching and learning.</li>
105 <li>Students can learn with and use the same software at school, at
106 home, and at their working place without running into license or
107 conversion problems.</li>
109 <li>Closed source or proprietary software hides knowledge rather
110 than exposing it, and proprietary software vendors try to bind
111 customers to certain products. But teachers need to teach
112 science, not products.</li>
114 <li>If you have everything you for daily work as open source, what
115 would you need proprietary software for?</li>