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23 <div class=
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24 <div class=
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2015</div>
25 <div class=
"body"><p>It is a bit work to figure out the ownership structure of companies
26 in Norway. The information is publicly available, but one need to
27 recursively look up ownership in all owners to figure out the complete
28 ownership graph of a given set of companies. To save me the work in
29 the future, I wrote a script to do this automatically, outputting the
30 ownership structure using the Graphviz/dotty format. The data source
31 is web scraping from
<a href=
"http://www.proff.no/">Proff
</a>, because
32 I failed to find a useful source directly from the official keepers of
33 the ownership data,
<a href=
"http://www.brreg.no/">Brønnøysundsregistrene
</a>.
</p>
35 <p>To get a owner ship graph, fetch
36 <a href=
"https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/brreg-norway-ownership-graph">the code from git
</a> and run it using the organisation number. I'm
37 using the Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet as an example here, as its
38 ownership structure is very simple:
</p>
41 % time ./bin/eierskap-dotty
958033540 > dagbladet.dot
49 <p>The script accept several organisation numbers on the command line,
50 allowing a cluster of companies to be graphed in the same image. The
51 resulting dot file for the example above look like this. The edges
52 are labeled with the ownership percentage, and the nodes uses the
53 organisation number as their name and the name as the label:
</p>
58 "Aller Holding A/s" -
> "910119877" [
label=
"100%"]
59 "910119877" -
> "998689015" [
label=
"100%"]
60 "998689015" -
> "958033540" [
label=
"99%"]
61 "974530600" -
> "958033540" [
label=
"1%"]
62 "958033540" [
label=
"AS DAGBLADET"]
63 "998689015" [
label=
"Berner Media Holding AS"]
64 "974530600" [
label=
"Dagbladets Stiftelse"]
65 "910119877" [
label=
"Aller Media AS"]
69 <p>To view the ownership graph, run "
<tt>dotty dagbladet.dot
</tt>" or
70 convert it to a PNG using "<tt>dot -T png dagbladet.dot
>
71 dagbladet.png
</tt>". This is the result can be seen below:</p>
73 <img src="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2015-
06-
15-ownership-graphs-norway-dagbladet.png
" width="80%
">
75 <p>Note that I suspect the "Aller Holding A/S" entry to be incorrect
76 data in the official ownership register, as that name is not
77 registered in the official company register for Norway. The ownership
78 register is sensitive to typos and there seem to be no strict checking
79 of the ownership information.
</p>
81 <p>Let me know if you improve the script or find better data sources.
82 The code is licensed according to GPL
2 or newer.
</p>
87 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/offentlig innsyn">offentlig innsyn
</a>.
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95 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Measuring_and_adjusting_the_loudness_of_a_TV_channel_using_bs1770gain.html">Measuring and adjusting the loudness of a TV channel using bs1770gain
</a></div>
96 <div class=
"date">11th June
2015</div>
97 <div class=
"body"><p>Television loudness is the source of frustration for viewers
98 everywhere. Some channels are very load, others are less loud, and
99 ads tend to shout very high to get the attention of the viewers, and
100 the viewers do not like this. This fact is well known to the TV
101 channels. See for example the BBC white paper
102 "
<a href=
"http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP202.pdf">Terminology
103 for loudness and level dBTP, LU, and all that
</a>" from 2011 for a
104 summary of the problem domain. To better address the need for even
105 loadness, the TV channels got together several years ago to agree on a
106 new way to measure loudness in digital files as one step in
107 standardizing loudness. From this came the ITU-R standard BS.1770,
108 "<a href=
"http://www.itu.int/rec/R-REC-BS.1770/en">Algorithms to
109 measure audio programme loudness and true-peak audio level
</a>".</p>
111 <p>The ITU-R BS.1770 specification describe an algorithm to measure
112 loadness in LUFS (Loudness Units, referenced to Full Scale). But
113 having a way to measure is not enough. To get the same loudness
114 across TV channels, one also need to decide which value to standardize
115 on. For European TV channels, this was done in the EBU Recommondaton
116 R128, "<a href=
"https://tech.ebu.ch/docs/r/r128.pdf">Loudness
117 normalisation and permitted maximum level of audio signals
</a>", which
118 specifies a recommended level of -23 LUFS. In Norway, I have been
119 told that NRK, TV2, MTG and SBS have decided among themselves to
120 follow the R128 recommondation for playout from 2016-03-01.</p>
122 <p>There are free software available to measure and adjust the loudness
123 level using the LUFS. In Debian, I am aware of a library named
124 <a href="https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libebur128
">libebur128</a>
125 able to measure the loudness and since yesterday morning a new binary
126 named <a href="http://bs1770gain.sourceforge.net
">bs1770gain</a>
127 capable of both measuring and adjusting was uploaded and is waiting
128 for NEW processing. I plan to maintain the latter in Debian under the
129 <a href="https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?email=pkg-multimedia-maintainers%
40lists.alioth.debian.org
">Debian
130 multimedia</a> umbrella.</p>
132 <p>The free software based TV channel I am involved in,
133 <a href="http://www.frikanalen.no/
">Frikanalen</a>, plan to follow the
134 R128 recommondation ourself as soon as we can adjust the software to
135 do so, and the bs1770gain tool seem like a good fit for that part of
136 the puzzle to measure loudness on new video uploaded to Frikanalen.
137 Personally, I plan to use bs1770gain to adjust the loudness of videos
138 I upload to Frikanalen on behalf of <a href="http://www.nuug.no/
">the
139 NUUG member organisation</a>. The program seem to be able to measure
140 the LUFS value of any media file handled by ffmpeg, but I've only
141 successfully adjusted the LUFS value of WAV files. I suspect it
142 should be able to adjust it for all the formats handled by ffmpeg.</p>
147 Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english
">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/frikanalen
">frikanalen</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia
">multimedia</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video
">video</a>.
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155 <div class="title
"><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Hva_gj_r_at_NRK_kan_distribuere_H_264_video_uten_patentavtale_med_MPEG_LA_.html
">Hva gjør at NRK kan distribuere H.264-video uten patentavtale med MPEG LA?</a></div>
156 <div class="date
">10th June 2015</div>
157 <div class="body
"><p>Helt siden jeg i 2012 fikk beskjed fra MPEG LA om at
158 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/MPEG_LA_mener_NRK_m__ha_avtale_med_dem_for___kringkaste_og_publisere_H_264_video.html
">NRK
159 trengte patentavtale med dem</a> hvis de distribuerte H.264-video til
160 sluttbrukere, har jeg lurt på hva som gjør at NRK ikke har slik
161 avtale. For noen dager siden fikk jeg endelig gjort noe med min
162 undring, og sendte 2015-05-28 følgende epost til info (at) nrk.no med
163 tittel "Hva gjør at NRK kan distribuere H
.264-video uten patentavtale
167 <p>Jeg lurer på en ting rundt NRKs bruk av H
.264-video på sine
168 websider samt distribusjon via RiksTV og kabel-TV. Har NRK vurdert om
169 det er behov for en patentavtale med
170 <a href=
"http://www.mpegla.com/">MPEG LA
</a> slik det står i
171 programvarelisensene til blant annet Apple Final Cut Studio, Adobe
172 Premiere Pro, Avid og Apples Final Cut Pro X?
</p>
174 <p>Hvis dere har vurdert dette, hva var utfallet av en slik vurdering?
</p>
176 <p>Hvis dere ikke har vurdert dette, har NRK planer om å vurdere behovet
177 for patentavtale?
</p>
179 <p>I følge en artikkel på
180 <a href=
"https://nrkbeta.no/2012/02/01/siste-kutt-for-final-cut/">NRK
181 Beta i
2012</a> har NRK brukt eller testet både Apple Final Cut
182 Studio, Adobe Premiere Pro, Avid og Apples Final Cut Pro X til bruk
183 for å redigere video før sending. Alle disse har bruksvilkår
184 understøttet av opphavsretten som sier at de kun kan brukes til å lage
185 filmer til personlig og ikke-kommersiell bruk - med mindre en har en
186 lisensavtale med MPEG LA om bruk av patenter utstedt i USA for H
.264.
187 Se f.eks.
<a href=
"http://www.avid.com/static/resources/common/documents/corporate/LICENSE.pdf">bruksvilkårene for Avid
</a>,
<a href=
"http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20000101-264.html">Adobe Premiere
</a> og
<a href=
"http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/finalcutstudio2.pdf">Apple Final
188 Cut Studio
</a> og søk etter "MPEG LA".
</p>
190 <p>Dette får meg til å lure på om det er brudd på opphavsretten å bruke
191 disse verktøyene i strid med bruksvilkårene uten patentavtale med MPEG
192 LA. Men NRK bruker jo tilsynelatende disse verktøyene uten patentavtale
195 <p>I følge forfatteren av Open Broadcast Encoder finnes det to typer
196 H
.264-relaterte avtaler en kan få med MPEG LA. Det er én for å lage
197 programvare og utstyr som produserer H
.264-video, og en annen for å
198 kringkaste video som bruker H
.264. Dette forteller meg at selv om
199 produsentene av utstyr og programvare som NRK bruker har en slik avtale
200 med MPEG LA, så trenges det en egen avtale for å kringkaste video på det
203 <p>I følge Ryan Rodriguez hos MPEG LA, da jeg spurte ham på epost i
204 juni
2012, har NRK ikke en slik avtale med MPEG LA. Han sa videre at
205 NRK trenger en slik avtale hvis NRK tilbyr H
.264-kodet video til
206 sluttbrukere. Jeg sjekket listen med
207 <a href=
"http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensees.aspx">organisasjoner
208 med avtale med MPEG LA
</a> og NRK står fortsatt ikke der.
</p>
210 <p>Jeg lurer dermed på hva som gjør at NRK kan bruke de overnevnte
211 videoredigeringsverktøyene, som tilsynelatende har krav om avtale med
212 MPEG LA for å kunne brukes slik NRK bruker dem, til å lage videofiler
213 for distribusjon uten å ha en avtale med MPEG LA om distribusjon av
214 H
.264-video? Dette er spesielt interessant å vite for oss andre som
215 også vurderer å spre H
.264-video etter å ha redigert dem med disse mye
216 brukte videoredigeringsverktøyene.
</p>
219 <p>Samme dag fikk jeg automatisk svar om at min henvendelse hadde fått
220 saksid
1294699. Jeg fikk deretter følgende respons fra NRK
224 <p>Hei, beklager lang svartid, men det tok litt tid å finne ut hvem som kunne
227 <p>For selskaper som leverer h
.264 til sluttbrukere på nett (f.eks
228 NRKs nett- tv utgaver som bruker h
.264) - og som leverer slike
229 tjenester uten betaling fra forbrukere – er det heller ikke påkrevd
230 noen patentavtale.
</p>
232 <p><a href=
"http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20100825006629/en/MPEG-LA%E2%80%99s-AVC-License-Charge-Royalties-Internet#.VWb2ws_774Y">http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/
20100825006629/en/MPEG-LA%E2%
80%
99s-AVC-License-Charge-Royalties-Internet#.VWb2ws_774Y
</a></p>
234 <p>Med vennlig hilsen
236 <br>Informasjonskonsulent, Publikumsservice
</p>
239 <br>Strategidivisjonen
240 <Br>Sentralbord: +
47 23 04 70 00
241 <br>Post: NRK Publikumsservice,
8608 Mo i Rana
242 <br>nrk.no / info (at) nrk.no
</p>
245 Da dette ikke helt var svar på det jeg lurte på, sendte jeg samme dag
246 oppfølgerepost tilbake:
250 <br>> Hei, beklager lang svartid, men det tok litt tid å finne ut hvem som
251 <br>> kunne svare på dette.
</p>
253 <p>Takk for svar. Men det besvarte ikke helt det jeg spurte om.
</p>
255 <p>> For selskaper som leverer h
.264 til sluttbrukere på nett (f.eks NRKs
256 <br>> nett- tv utgaver som bruker h
.264) - og som leverer slike tjenester
257 <br>> uten betaling fra forbrukere – er det heller ikke påkrevd noen
260 <br>> http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/
20100825006629/en/MPEG-LA%E2%
80%
99s-AVC-License-Charge-Royalties-Internet#.VWb2ws_774Y
</p>
262 <p>Spørsmålet er ikke kun om MPEG LA krever patentavtale eller ikke
263 (hvilket ikke helt besvares av pressemeldingen omtalt over, gitt at
264 pressemeldingen kom i
2010, to år før MPEG LA ansvarlige for
265 internasjonal lisensiering egen Ryan Rodriguez fortalte meg på epost
266 at NRK trenger en lisens.
</p>
268 <p>Det er uklart fra pressemeldingen hva "Internet Broadcast AVC
269 Video" konkret betyr, men i følge en
270 <a href=
"http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/avc/Documents/avcweb.pdf">presentasjon
271 fra MPEG LA med tema "AVC PAtent Portfoli License Briefing" datert
272 2015-
05-
15</a> gjelder "Internet Broadcast AVC Video" kun kringkasting
273 på Internet som ikke tilbyr valg av enkeltinnslag ("not
274 title-by-title"), hvilket jo NRK gjør på sine nettsider. I tillegg
275 kringkaster jo NRK H
.264-video også utenom Internet (RiksTV, kabel,
276 satelitt), hvilket helt klart ikke er dekket av vilkårene omtalt i
279 <p>Spørsmålet mitt er hvordan NRK kan bruke verktøy med bruksvilkår
280 som krever avtale med MPEG LA for det NRK bruker dem til, når NRK ikke
281 har avtale med MPEG LA. Hvis jeg forsto spørsmålet riktig, så mener
282 NRK at dere ikke trenger avtale med MPEG LA, men uten slik avtale kan
283 dere vel ikke bruke hverken Apple Final Cut Studio, Adobe Premiere
284 Pro, Avid eller Apples Final Cut Pro X for å redigere video før
287 <p>Mine konkrete spørsmål var altså:
</p>
291 <li>Hvis NRK har vurdert om det er behov for en patentavtale med MPEG LA
292 slik det er krav om i programvarelisensene til blant annet Apple
293 Final Cut Studio, Adobe Premiere Pro, Avid og Apples Final Cut Pro X,
294 hva var utfallet av en slik vurdering? Kan jeg få kopi av vurderingen
295 hvis den er gjort skriftlig?
</li>
297 <li>Hvis NRK ikke har vurdert dette, har NRK planer om å vurdere behovet
298 for patentavtale?
</li>
300 <li>Hva slags saksnummer fikk min henvendelse i NRKs offentlige
301 postjournal? Jeg ser at postjournalen ikke er publisert for den
302 aktuelle perioden ennå, så jeg fikk ikke sjekket selv.
</li>
307 <p>Det hjelper å ha funnet rette vedkommende i NRK, for denne gangen
308 fikk jeg svar tilbake dagen etter (
2015-
06-
10), fra Geir Børdalen i
312 <p>Hei Petter Reinholdtsen
</p>
314 <p>Jeg har sjekket saken med distribusjonssjef for tv, Arild Hellgren
315 (som var teknologidirektør da bakkenettet ble satt opp). NRK v/
316 Hellgren hadde møte med MPEG LA sammen med den europeiske
317 kringkastingsunionen EBU før bakkenettet for TV ble satt opp
318 (igangsatt høsten
2007). I dette møtet ble det avklart at NRK/EBU ikke
319 trengte noen patentavtale for h
.264 i forbindelse med oppsett av
320 bakkenettet eller bruk av MPEG4 h
.264 som kompresjonsalgoritme fordi
321 tjenesten «in full»(nor: helt) var betalt av utsendelseselskapene og
322 ikke av forbrukerne.
</p>
324 <p><a href=
"http://www.nrk.no/oppdrag/digitalt-bakkenett-1.3214555">http://www.nrk.no/oppdrag/digitalt-bakkenett-
1.3214555</a></p>
326 <p>Det er også klart slått fast at selskaper som leverer video basert
327 på MPEG4 h
.264 til sluttbrukere på nett, heller ikke påkrevd noen
328 patentavtale – så lenge de leverer slike tjenester uten betaling fra
331 <a href=
"http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20100825006629/en/MPEG-LA%E2%80%99s-AVC-License-Charge-Royalties-Internet#.VWb2ws_774Y">http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/
20100825006629/en/MPEG-LA%E2%
80%
99s-AVC-License-Charge-Royalties-Internet#.VWb2ws_774Y
</a>
333 <p>“MPEG LA announced today that its AVC Patent Portfolio License will
334 continue not to charge royalties for Internet Video that is free to
335 end users (known as “Internet Broadcast AVC Video”) during the entire
336 life of this License. MPEG LA previously announced it would not charge
337 royalties for such video through December
31,
2015 (see
338 <a href=
"http://www.mpegla.com/Lists/MPEG%20LA%20News%20List/Attachments/226/n-10-02-02.pdf">http://www.mpegla.com/Lists/MPEG%
20LA%
20News%
20List/Attachments/
226/n-
10-
02-
02.pdf
</a>),
339 and today’s announcement makes clear that royalties will continue not
340 to be charged for such video beyond that time. Products and services
341 other than Internet Broadcast AVC Video continue to be
342 royalty-bearing.”
</p>
344 <p>Vi har derfor ikke noe behov for å vurdere noen patentavtale med
347 <p>Understreker for øvrig at NRK ikke er låst til MPEG4 – h
.264 som
348 utsendelsesformat – og at vi har brukt og bruker flere andre
349 alternativer i våre tjenester. Ulike «devicer» har ofte behov for
350 forskjellige løsninger – og NRK har forsøkt å levere med best mulig
351 kvalitet /økonomi /stabilitet avhengig av
352 plattform. Produksjonsformater i NRK spenner for øvrig over en rekke
353 forskjellige formater – hvor MPEG4 bare er en av disse. Når NRK kjøper
354 teknisk utstyr er betaling for kodekstøtte ofte en del av
355 anskaffelsesprisen for denne maskinvaren (enten dette er spesialiserte
356 enkodere eller forskjellige typer produksjonsutstyr).
</p>
359 <br>Geir Børdalen
</p>
361 <p>________________________________________
363 <br>Investeringsansvarlig NRK / Hovedprosjektleder - Origo
364 <br>Avdeling for utvikling, innovasjon, investering og eiendom
365 <br>NRK medietjenester
366 <br>Sentralbord: +
47 23 04 70 00
367 <br>Post: NRK, AUTV (RBM5), Pb.
8500 Majorstuen,
0340 Oslo
371 <p>Et godt og grundig svar, som var informativt om hvordan NRK tenker
372 rundt patentavtale med MPEG LA, men heller ikke helt besvarte det jeg
373 lurte på, så jeg sendte epostoppfølging samme dag.
</p>
377 <br>> Hei Petter Reinholdtsen
</p>
379 <p>Hei, og takk for raskt svar. Er min henvendelse journalført slik
380 at den dukker opp i NRKs postjournal?
</p>
382 <p>Svaret ditt var meget nyttig, og jeg forstår ut fra det du skriver
383 at avklaringen med MPEG LA rundt H
.264-distribusjon via bakkenettet
384 gjelder alle TV-kanaler i Norge. Hvilke saksnummer fikk dokumenter
385 som ble opprettet i forbindelse med det omtalte møtet NRK v/Hellgren
386 og EBU hadde med MPEG LA (dvs. referater, avtaler, etc),
387 f.eks. dokumentet der formuleringen "in full" som du omtaler
390 <p>Men det er et par ting jeg fortsatt ikke forstår. Det ene er
391 hvorfor NRKs forståelse av hva "Internet Broadcast AVC Video" dekker
392 ser ut til å avvike fra det som presenteres i
393 <a href=
"http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/avc/Documents/avcweb.pdf">lysark
394 fra MPEG LA
</a> i mai, der MPEG LA på lysark med overskriften
395 "AVC/H
.264 License Terms Participation Fees" og undertittel "Where
396 remuneration is from other sources" skriver "Internet Broadcast AVC
397 Video (not title-by-title, not subscription) – no royalty for life of
398 the AVC Patent Portfolio License".
</p>
400 <p>Her leser jeg MPEG LA dithen at det kun er kringkasting uten
401 abonnement via Internet som er dekket at vilkårne omtalt i
402 pressemeldingen, mens jeg forstår deg dithen at NRK mener NRKs
403 nettsider som også har enkeltfilmer og innslag (som jeg forstår dekket
404 av formuleringen "title-by-title") dekkes av "Internet Broadcast AVC
405 Video" fra MPEG LA. Hva baserer dere denne tolkningen på? Jeg har
406 ikke sett noe skriftlig fra MPEG LA som støtter NRKs tolkning, og
407 lurer på om dere har andre kilder enn den pressemeldingen fra
5 år
408 tilbake, der NRKS forståelse av hva "Internet Broadcast AVC Video"
409 dekker er beskrevet?
</p>
411 <p>Det andre er at eposten din ikke nevnte spørsmålet mitt om
412 bruksvilkårene til videoredigeringsverktøyene som NRK bruker. Disse
413 har som tidligere nevnt krav om at de kun skal brukes til private og
414 ikke-kommersielle formål med mindre en har avtale med MPEG LA, og uten
415 avtale med MPEG LA kan det jo virke som om NRK bruker verktøyene i
416 strid med bruksvilkårene. Hva gjør at disse bruksvilkårene ikke
420 <p>Noen minutter senere får jeg foreløpig siste svar i
426 <p>Vårt dokumentarkiv har fått en kopi (journalføringsnr kan jeg
427 dessverre ikke gi deg).
<p>
429 <p>> Svaret ditt var meget nyttig, og jeg forstår ut fra det du
430 <br>> skriver at avklaringen med MPEG LA rundt H
.264-distribusjon via
431 <br>> bakkenettet gjelder alle TV-kanaler i Norge.
</p>
433 <p>Svar: Kan ikke svare for andre enn for NRK/EBU - og for bakkenettet
434 i Norge er det kun NRK som er et lisensbasert selskap. Kan ikke gi noe
435 svar på saksnr på dokumenter eller ytterligere informasjon da jeg selv
436 ikke var del i dette.
</p>
438 <p>> Men det er et par ting jeg fortsatt ikke forstår. ...
</p>
440 <p>Svar: Kan ikke gå ytterligere inn i dette fra min side og mitt
441 fagfelt som er produksjon/publisering og systemstrukturene bak
442 disse. For øvrig ligger det etter vår formening ingen begrensninger
443 for NRK i mulighetene til publisering mht til kodek i
444 produksjonssystemer. Som tidligere skrevet mener vi at NRK ikke
445 trenger noen avtale med MPEG LA og støtter oss til det vi allerede har
446 kommunisert i forrige epost.
</p>
449 <br>Geir Børdalen
</p>
452 <p>Det syntes vanskelig å komme videre når NRK ikke ønsker å gå inn i
453 problemstillingen rundt bruksvilkårene til videoredigeringsverktøyene
454 NRK bruker, så jeg sendte takk for svarene og avsluttet utvekslingen
458 <p>Tusen takk for rask respons, og oppklarende forklaring om hvordan
459 NRK tenker rundt MPEG LA.
</p>
461 <p>Jeg vil høre med NRK-arkivet for å se om de kan spore opp de
462 omtalte dokumentene. Jeg setter pris på om du kan dele titler, dato
463 eller annen informasjon som kan gjøre det enklere for arkivet å finne
466 <p>Når det gjelder hvordan bruksvilkårene til
467 videoredigeringsverktøyene skal tolkes, så skal jeg høre med MPEG LA
468 og produsentene av verktøyene for å forsøke å få klarhet i hva de
469 mener er rikgig rettstilstand.
</p>
472 <p>Jeg ble litt klokere, men fortsatt er det uklart for meg hva som er
473 grunnlaget til NRK for å se bort fra bruksvilkår i
474 videoredigeringsprogramvare som krever MPEG LA-avtale til alt annet
475 enn privat og ikke-kommersiell bruk.
</p>
480 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/h264">h264
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web
</a>.
485 <div class=
"padding"></div>
488 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Blir_det_virkelig_krav_om_fingeravtrykk_i_nasjonale_ID_kort_.html">Blir det virkelig krav om fingeravtrykk i nasjonale ID-kort?
</a></div>
489 <div class=
"date">12th May
2015</div>
490 <div class=
"body"><p>Noen finner det vanskelig å tro at Stortinget faktisk har vedtatt å
491 kreve at alle norske borgerne må avgi fingeravtrykk til politiet for å
492 fungere i samfunnet. Jeg er blitt spurt hva som er grunnlaget for
493 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Norwegian_citizens_now_required_by_law_to_give_their_fingerprint_to_the_police.html">min
494 påstand i forrige bloggpost
</a> om at det nå blir krav om å avgi
495 fingeravtrykk til politiet for å fungere som borger i Norge. De som
496 spør klarer ikke lese det ut fra det som er vedtatt. Her er en liten
497 oppsummering om hva jeg baserer det på. Det sies ikke direkte i
498 hverken proposisjon, innstilling eller vedtak, men fremgår når en ser
499 på indirekte formuleringer.
</p>
502 <a href=
"https://www.regjeringen.no/nb/dokumenter/prop.-66-l-2014-2015/id2399703/">stortingsproposisjon
503 66</a>, avsnitt
6.3.5 (Avgivelse av biometriske personopplysninger)
508 <p>Departementet foreslår at både ansiktsfoto og fingeravtrykk skal
509 kunne opptas og lagres som identifikasjonsdata i de nasjonale
510 ID-kortene, på samme måte som i passene. Lovforslaget er derfor
511 utformet i tråd med passloven §
6 annet ledd, som fastslår at det
512 til bruk for senere verifisering eller kontroll av passinnehaverens
513 identitet kan innhentes og lagres i passet biometrisk
514 personinformasjon i form av ansiktsfoto og fingeravtrykk (to
515 fingre). Dagens ordning med lagring av ansiktsfoto og fingeravtrykk
516 i et kontaktløst smartkort i passet er basert på internasjonale
517 standarder. Fingeravtrykkene i nasjonalt ID-kort vil bli beskyttet
518 på samme måte som fingeravtrykkene i passene.
</p>
522 <p>For norske forhold understreker departementet at innføring av
523 nasjonale ID-kort sammen med innføring av nye systemer for sikrere
524 utstedelse og kontroll av pass og relaterte dokumenter gir mulighet
525 til å utforme ordningen slik at den best mulig møter utfordringene
526 forbundet med identitetskriminalitet. Det tilsier at fingeravtrykk
527 opptas og lagres i alle nasjonale ID-kort.
</p>
530 <p>Departementet sier altså at sin anbefaling er at fingeravtrykk skal
531 opptas og lagres i alle nasjonale ID-kort. Det skrives som om det
532 blir valgfritt, på samme måten som det skrives passloven, der det i
533 loven sier at det kan
534 «
<a href=
"https://lovdata.no/dokument/NL/lov/1997-06-19-82#§6">innhentes
535 og lagres i passet biometrisk personinformasjon i form av ansiktsfoto
536 og fingeravtrykk (to fingre)
</a>». Men på tross av bruken av «kan» i
537 passloven er det innført krav om å avgi fingeravtrykk for å få et pass
538 i Norge. Proposisjonen sier i tillegg i del
1 (Proposisjonens
539 hovedinnhold) at ID-kortene skal være like pålitelig som pass og ha
540 samme sikkerhetsnivå som pass. Departementet foreslår altså at
541 ID-kortene skal gis etter samme regler som for pass.
</p>
543 <p>Formuleringene fra hovedinnholdet i proposisjonen er videreført i
544 <a href=
"https://www.stortinget.no/no/Saker-og-publikasjoner/Publikasjoner/Innstillinger/Stortinget/2014-2015/inns-201415-243/?lvl=0">innstillingen
545 fra stortingskomiteen
</a>, der det konkret står «De foreslåtte reglene
546 vil gi befolkningen tilbud om et offentlig utstedt identitetsbevis som
547 vil være like pålitelig som passet, og mer praktisk å bruke som
548 legitimasjon» og «Det nasjonale ID-kortet skal også holde samme
549 sikkerhetsnivå som passet». Komiteen har altså ingen kommentarer
550 eller innsigelser til dette forslaget, og gjorde i debatten da saken
551 ble vedtatt det klart at dette var en god sak og at en enstemmig
552 komité var glad for resultatet. Stortinget har dermed stilt seg helt
553 og fullt bak departementets forslag.
</p>
555 <p>For meg er det åpenbart når en leser proposisjonen at «like
556 pålitelig» og «samme sikkerhetsnivå» vil bli tolket av departementet
557 som «med samme biometrisk informasjon som i passene», og departementet
558 forklarer i tillegg i proposisjonen at de har tenkt at
559 fingeravtrykkene «vil bli beskyttet på samme måte som fingeravtrykkene
560 i passene». Jeg ser det dermed som åpenbart at den samme
561 tvangsinnhentingen av fingeravtrykk som gjelder for pass vil bli
562 viderført til de nasjonale ID-kortene.
</p>
564 <p>Det eneste som kan endre dette er massive protester fra
565 befolkningen på at folk som ikke er mistenkt for noe kriminelt skal
566 tvinges til å gi fingeravtrykket til politiet for å f.eks. kunne få
567 bankkonto eller stemme ved valg. Det kunne få departementet til å
568 snu. Det tror jeg ikke vil skje.
</p>
573 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/surveillance">surveillance
</a>.
578 <div class=
"padding"></div>
581 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Norwegian_citizens_now_required_by_law_to_give_their_fingerprint_to_the_police.html">Norwegian citizens now required by law to give their fingerprint to the police
</a></div>
582 <div class=
"date">10th May
2015</div>
583 <div class=
"body"><p>5 days ago, the Norwegian Parliament decided, unanimously, that all
584 citizens of Norway, no matter if they are suspected of something
586 <a href=
"https://www.holderdeord.no/votes/1430838871e">required to
587 give fingerprints to the police
</a> (vote details from Holder de
588 ord). The law make it sound like it will be optional, but in a few
589 years there will be no option any more. The ID will be required to
590 vote, to get a bank account, a bank card, to change address on the
591 post office, to receive an electronic ID or to get a drivers license
592 and many other tasks required to function in Norway. The banks plan
593 to stop providing their own ID on the bank cards when this new
594 national ID is introduced, and the national road authorities plan to
595 change the drivers license to no longer be usable as identity cards.
596 In effect, to function as a citizen in Norway a national ID card will
597 be required, and to get it one need to provide the fingerprints to
600 <p>In addition to handing the fingerprint to the police (which
601 promised to not make a copy of the fingerprint image at that point in
602 time, but say nothing about doing it later), a picture of the
603 fingerprint will be stored on the RFID chip, along with a picture of
604 the face and other information about the person. Some of the
605 information will be encrypted, but the encryption will be the same
606 system as currently used in the passports. The codes to decrypt will
607 be available to a lot of government offices and their suppliers around
608 the globe, but for those that do not know anyone in those circles it
610 <a href=
"http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2006/nov/17/news.homeaffairs">the
611 encryption is already broken
</a>. And they
612 <a href=
"http://www.networkworld.com/article/2215057/wireless/bad-guys-could-read-rfid-passports-at-217-feet--maybe-a-lot-more.html">can
613 be read from
70 meters away
</a>. This can be mitigated a bit by
614 keeping it in a Faraday cage (metal box or metal wire container), but
615 one will be required to take it out of there often enough to expose
616 ones private and personal information to a lot of people that have no
617 business getting access to that information.
</p>
619 <p>The new Norwegian national IDs are a vehicle for identity theft,
620 and I feel sorry for us all having politicians accepting such invasion
621 of privacy without any objections. So are the Norwegian passports,
622 but it has been possible to function in Norway without those so far.
623 That option is going away with the passing of the new law. In this, I
624 envy the Germans, because for them it is optional how much biometric
625 information is stored in their national ID.
</p>
627 <p>And if forced collection of fingerprints was not bad enough, the
628 information collected in the national ID card register can be handed
629 over to foreign intelligence services and police authorities, "when
630 extradition is not considered disproportionate".
</p>
632 <p>Update
2015-
05-
12: For those unable to believe that the Parliament
633 really could make such decision, I wrote
634 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Blir_det_virkelig_krav_om_fingeravtrykk_i_nasjonale_ID_kort_.html">a
635 summary of the sources I have
</a> for concluding the way I do
636 (Norwegian Only, as the sources are all in Norwegian).
</p>
641 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/surveillance">surveillance
</a>.
646 <div class=
"padding"></div>
649 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/What_would_it_cost_to_store_all_phone_calls_in_Norway_.html">What would it cost to store all phone calls in Norway?
</a></div>
650 <div class=
"date"> 1st May
2015</div>
651 <div class=
"body"><p>Many years ago, a friend of mine calculated how much it would cost
652 to store the sound of all phone calls in Norway, and came up with the
653 cost of around
20 million NOK (
2.4 mill EUR) for all the calls in a
654 year. I got curious and wondered what the same calculation would look
655 like today. To do so one need an idea of how much data storage is
656 needed for each minute of sound, how many minutes all the calls in
657 Norway sums up to, and the cost of data storage.
</p>
659 <p>The
2005 numbers are from
660 <a href=
"http://www.digi.no/analyser/2005/10/04/vi-prater-stadig-mindre-i-roret">digi.no
</a>,
661 the
2012 numbers are from
662 <a href=
"http://www.nkom.no/aktuelt/nyheter/fortsatt-vekst-i-det-norske-ekommarkedet">a
663 NKOM report
</a>, and I got the
2013 numbers after asking NKOM via
664 email. I was told the numbers for
2014 will be presented May
20th,
665 and decided not to wait for those, as I doubt they will be very
666 different from the numbers from
2013.
</p>
668 <p>The amount of data storage per minute sound depend on the wanted
669 quality, and for phone calls it is generally believed that
8 Kbit/s is
670 enough. See for example a
671 <a href=
"http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/voice/voice-quality/7934-bwidth-consume.html#topic1">summary
672 on voice quality from Cisco
</a> for some alternatives.
8 Kbit/s is
60
673 Kbytes/min, and this can be multiplied with the number of call minutes
674 to get the storage requirements.
</p>
676 <p>Storage prices varies a lot, depending on speed, backup strategies,
677 availability requirements etc. But a simple way to calculate can be
678 to use the price of a TiB-disk (around
1000 NOK /
120 EUR) and double
679 it to take space, power and redundancy into account. It could be much
680 higher with high speed and good redundancy requirements.
</p>
682 <p>But back to the question, What would it cost to store all phone
683 calls in Norway? Not much. Here is a small table showing the
684 estimated cost, which is within the budget constraint of most medium
685 and large organisations:
</p>
688 <tr><th>Year
</th><th>Call minutes
</th><th>Size
</th><th>Price in NOK / EUR
</th></tr>
689 <tr><td>2005</td><td align=
"right">24 000 000 000</td><td align=
"right">1.3 PiB
</td><td align=
"right">3 mill /
358 000</td></tr>
690 <tr><td>2012</td><td align=
"right">18 000 000 000</td><td align=
"right">1.0 PiB
</td><td align=
"right">2.2 mill /
262 000</td></tr>
691 <tr><td>2013</td><td align=
"right">17 000 000 000</td><td align=
"right">950 TiB
</td><td align=
"right">2.1 mill /
250 000</td></tr>
694 <p>This is the cost of buying the storage. Maintenance need to be
695 taken into account too, but calculating that is left as an exercise
696 for the reader. But it is obvious to me from those numbers that
697 recording the sound of all phone calls in Norway is not going to be
698 stopped because it is too expensive. I wonder if someone already is
699 collecting the data?
</p>
704 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/surveillance">surveillance
</a>.
709 <div class=
"padding"></div>
712 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_Jessie_based_Debian_Edu_beta_release.html">First Jessie based Debian Edu beta release
</a></div>
713 <div class=
"date">26th April
2015</div>
714 <div class=
"body"><p>I am happy to report that the Debian Edu team sent out
715 <a href=
"https://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/2015/04/msg00000.html">this
716 announcement today
</a>:
</p>
719 the Debian Edu / Skolelinux project is pleased to announce the first
720 *beta* release of Debian Edu "Jessie"
8.0+edu0~b1, which for the first
721 time is composed entirely of packages from the current Debian stable
722 release, Debian
8 "Jessie".
724 (As most reading this will know, Debian "Jessie" hasn't actually been
725 released by now. The release is still in progress but should finish
728 We expect to make a final release of Debian Edu "Jessie" in the coming
729 weeks, timed with the first point release of Debian Jessie. Upgrades
730 from this beta release of Debian Edu Jessie to the final release will
731 be possible and encouraged!
733 Please report feedback to debian-edu@lists.debian.org and/or submit
734 bugs: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
736 Debian Edu - sometimes also known as "Skolelinux" - is a complete
737 operating system for schools, universities and other
738 organisations. Through its pre- prepared installation profiles
739 administrators can install servers, workstations and laptops which
740 will work in harmony on the school network. With Debian Edu, the
741 teachers themselves or their technical support staff can roll out a
742 complete multi-user, multi-machine study environment within hours or
745 Debian Edu is already in use at several hundred schools all over the
746 world, particularly in Germany, Spain and Norway. Installations come
747 with hundreds of applications pre-installed, plus the whole Debian
748 archive of thousands of compatible packages within easy reach.
750 For those who want to give Debian Edu Jessie a try, download and
751 installation instructions are available, including detailed
752 instructions in the manual explaining the first steps, such as setting
753 up a network or adding users. Please note that the password for the
754 user your prompted for during installation must have a length of at
757 == Where to download ==
759 A multi-architecture CD / usbstick image (
649 MiB) for network booting
760 can be downloaded at the following locations:
762 http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/debian-edu-
8.0+edu0~b1-CD.iso
763 rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/debian-edu-
8.0+edu0~b1-CD.iso .
765 The SHA1SUM of this image is:
54a524d16246cddd8d2cfd6ea52f2dd78c47ee0a
767 Alternatively an extended DVD / usbstick image (
4.9 GiB) is also
768 available, with more software included (saving additional download
771 http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/debian-edu-
8.0+edu0~b1-USB.iso
772 rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/debian-edu-
8.0+edu0~b1-USB.iso
774 The SHA1SUM of this image is: fb1f1504a490c077a48653898f9d6a461cb3c636
776 Sources are available from the Debian archive, see
777 http://ftp.debian.org/debian-cd/
8.0.0/source/ for some download
780 == Debian Edu Jessie manual in seven languages ==
782 Please see https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Jessie/ for
783 the English version of the Debian Edu jessie manual.
785 This manual has been fully translated to German, French, Italian,
786 Danish, Dutch and Norwegian Bokmål. A partly translated version exists
787 for Spanish. See http://maintainer.skolelinux.org/debian-edu-doc/ for
788 online version of the translated manual.
790 More information about Debian
8 "Jessie" itself is provided in the
791 release notes and the installation manual:
792 - http://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/releasenotes
793 - http://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/installmanual
796 == Errata / known problems ==
798 It takes up to
15 minutes for a changed hostname to be updated via
801 The hostname script fails to update LTSP server hostname (#
783087).
803 Workaround: run update-hostname-from-ip on the client to update the
804 hostname immediately.
806 Check https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Status/Jessie for a possibly
807 more current and complete list.
809 == Some more details about Debian Edu
8.0+edu0~b1 Codename Jessie released
2015-
04-
25 ==
811 === Software updates ===
813 Everything which is new in Debian
8 Jessie, e.g.:
815 * Linux kernel
3.16.7-ctk9; for the i386 architecture, support for
816 i486 processors has been dropped; oldest supported ones: i586 (like
817 Intel Pentium and AMD K5).
819 * Desktop environments KDE Plasma Workspaces
4.11.13, GNOME
3.14,
820 Xfce
4.12, LXDE
0.5.6
821 * new optional desktop environment: MATE
1.8
822 * KDE Plasma Workspaces is installed by default; to choose one of
823 the others see the manual.
824 * the browsers Iceweasel
31 ESR and Chromium
41
828 * CUPS print system
1.7.5
829 * new boot framework: systemd
830 * Educational toolbox GCompris
14.12
831 * Music creator Rosegarden
14.02
832 * Image editor Gimp
2.8.14
833 * Virtual stargazer Stellarium
0.13.1
836 * New version of debian-installer from Debian Jessie.
837 * Debian Jessie includes about
43000 packages available for installation.
838 * More information about Debian
8 Jessie is provided in its release
839 notes and the installation manual, see the link above.
841 === Installation changes ===
843 Installations done via PXE now also install firmware automatically
844 for the hardware present.
848 A number of bugs have been fixed in this release; the most noticeable
849 from a user perspective:
851 * Inserting incorrect DNS information in Gosa will no longer break
852 DNS completely, but instead stop DNS updates until the incorrect
853 information is corrected (
710362)
855 * shutdown-at-night now shuts the system down if gdm3 is used (
775608).
857 === Sugar desktop removed ===
859 As the Sugar desktop was removed from Debian Jessie, it is also not
860 available in Debian Edu jessie.
863 == About Debian Edu / Skolelinux ==
865 Debian Edu, also known as Skolelinux, is a Linux distribution based on
866 Debian providing an out-of-the box environment of a completely
867 configured school network. Directly after installation a school server
868 running all services needed for a school network is set up just
869 waiting for users and machines being added via GOsa², a comfortable
870 Web-UI. A netbooting environment is prepared using PXE, so after
871 initial installation of the main server from CD or USB stick all other
872 machines can be installed via the network. The provided school server
873 provides LDAP database and Kerberos authentication service,
874 centralized home directories, DHCP server, web proxy and many other
875 services. The desktop contains more than
60 educational software
876 packages and more are available from the Debian archive, and schools
877 can choose between KDE, GNOME, LXDE, Xfce and MATE desktop
882 The Debian Project was founded in
1993 by Ian Murdock to be a truly
883 free community project. Since then the project has grown to be one of
884 the largest and most influential open source projects. Thousands of
885 volunteers from all over the world work together to create and
886 maintain Debian software. Available in
70 languages, and supporting a
887 huge range of computer types, Debian calls itself the universal
892 Thanks to everyone making Debian and Debian Edu / Skolelinux happen!
899 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
904 <div class=
"padding"></div>
907 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Shirish_Agarwal.html">Debian Edu interview: Shirish Agarwal
</a></div>
908 <div class=
"date">15th April
2015</div>
909 <div class=
"body"><p>It was a surprise to me to learn that project to create a complete
910 computer system for schools I've involved in,
911 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a>, was
912 being used in India. But apparently it is, and I managed to get an
913 interview with one of the friends of the project there, Shirish
916 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
918 <p>My name is Shirish Agarwal. Based out of the educational and
919 historical city of Pune, from the western state of Maharashtra, India.
920 My bread comes from giving training, giving policy tips,
921 installations on free software to mom and pop shops in different
922 fields from Desktop publishing to retail shops as well as work with
923 few software start-ups as well.
</p>
925 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
926 project?
</strong></p>
928 <p>It started innocently enough. I have been using Debian for a few
929 years and in one local minidebconf / debutsav I was asked if there was
930 anything for schools or education. I had worked / played with free
931 educational softwares such as Gcompris and Stellarium for my many
932 nieces and nephews so researched and found Debian Edu or Skolelinux as
933 it was known then. Since then I have started using the various
934 education meta-packages provided by the project.
</p>
936 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
939 <p>It's closest I have seen where a package full of educational
940 software are packed, which are free and open (both literally and
941 figuratively). Even if I take the simplest software which is
942 gcompris, the number of activities therein are amazing. Another one of
943 the softwares that I have liked for a long time is stellarium. Even
944 pysycache is cool except for couple of issues I encountered
945 <a href=
"https://bugs.debian.org/781841">#
781841</a> and
946 <a href=
"https://bugs.debian.org/781842">#
781842</a>.
</p>
948 <p>I prefer software installed on the system over web based solutions,
949 as a web site can disappear any time but the software on disk has the
950 possibility of a larger life span. Of course with both it's more a
951 question if it has enough users who make it fun or sustainable or both
952 for the developer per-se.
</p>
954 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
957 <p>I do see that the Debian Edu team seems to be short-handed and I
958 think more efforts should be made to make it popular and ask and take
959 help from people and the larger community wherever possible.
</p>
961 <p>I don't see any disadvantage to use Skolelinux apart from the fact
962 that most apps. are generic which is good or bad how you see it.
963 However, saying that I do acknowledge the fact that the canvas is
964 pretty big and there are lot of interesting ideas that could be done
965 but for reasons not known not done or if done I don't know about them.
966 Let me share some of the ideas (these are more upstream based but
967 still) I have had for a long time :
</p>
969 <p>1. Classical maths question of two trains in opposing directions
970 each running @x kmph/mph at y distance, when they will meet and how
971 far would each travel and similar questions like these.
973 <p>The computer is a fantastic system where questions like these can
974 be drawn, animated and the methodology and answers teased out in
975 interactive manner. While sites such as the
976 <a href=
"http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.two.trains.html">Ask
977 Dr. Math FAQ on The Two Trains problem
</a> (as an example or point of
978 inspiration) can be used there is lot more that can be done. I dunno
979 if there is a free software which does something like this. The idea
980 being a blend of objects + animation + interaction which does
981 this. The whole interaction could be gamified with points or sounds or
982 colourful celebration whenever the user gets even part of the question
983 or/and methodology right. That would help reinforce good behaviour.
984 This understanding could be used to share/showcase everything from how
985 the first wheel came to be, to evolution to how astronomy started,
986 psychics and everything in-between.
</p>
988 <p>One specific idea in the train part was having the Linux mascot on
989 one train and the BSD or GNU mascot on the other train and they
990 meeting somewhere in-between. Characters from blender movies could
993 <p>2. Loads of crossword-puzzles with reference to subjects: We have
994 enormous data sets in Wikipedia and Wikitionary. I don't think it
995 should be a big job to design crossword puzzles. Using categories and
996 sub-categories it should be doable to have Q&A single word answers
997 from the existing data-sets. What would make it easy or hard could be
998 the length of the word + existence of many or few vowels depending on
999 the user's input.
</p>
1001 <p>3. Jigsaw puzzles - We already have a great software called
1002 palapeli with number of slicers making it pretty interesting. What
1003 needs to be done is to download large number of public domain and
1004 copyleft images, tease and use IPTC tags to categorise them into
1005 nature, history etc. and let it loose. This could turn to be really
1006 huge collection of images. One source could be taken from
1007 commons.wikimedia.org, others could be huge collection of royalty-free
1008 stock photos. Potential is immense.
</p>
1010 <p>Apart from this, free software suffers in two directions, we lag
1011 both in development (of using new features per-se) and maintenance a
1012 lot. This is more so in educational software as these applications
1013 need to be timely and the opportunity cost of missing deadlines is
1014 immense. If we are able to solve issues of funding for development and
1015 maintenance of such software I don't see any big difficulties. I know
1016 of few start-ups in and around India who would love to develop and
1017 maintain such software if funding issues could be solved.
</p>
1019 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
1021 <p>That would be huge list. Some of the softwares are obviously apt,
1022 aptitude, debdelta, leafpad, the shell of course (zsh nowadays),
1023 quassel for IRC. In games I use shisen-sho while card-games are evenly
1024 between kpat and Aiselriot. In desktops it's a tie between
1025 gnome-flashback and mate.
</p>
1027 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
1028 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
1030 <p>I think it should first start with using specific FOSS apps. in
1031 whatever environment they are. If it's MS-Windows or Mac so be it.
1032 Once they are habitual with the apps. and there is buy-in from the
1033 school management then it could be installed anywhere. Most of the
1034 people now understand the concept of a repository because of the
1035 various online stores so it isn't hard to convince on that front.
</p>
1037 <p>What is harder is having enough people with technical skills and
1038 passion to service them. If you get buy-in from one or two teachers
1039 then ideas like above could also be asked to be done as a project as
1042 <p>I think where we fall short more than anything is in marketing. For
1043 instance, Debian has this whole range of fonts in its archive but
1044 there isn't even a page where all those different fonts in the La
1045 Ipsum format could be tried out for newcomers.
</p>
1047 <p>One of the issues faced constantly in installations is with updates
1048 and upgrades. People have this myth that each update and upgrade
1049 means the user interface will / has to change. I have seen this
1050 innumerable times. That perhaps is one of the reasons which browsers
1051 like Iceweasel / Firefox change user interfaces so much, not because
1052 it might be needed or be functional but because people believe that
1053 changed user interfaces are better. This, can easily be pointed with
1054 the user interfaces changed with almost every MS-Windows and Mac OS
1057 <p>The problems with Debian Edu for deployment are many. The biggest
1058 is the huge gap between what is taught in schools and what Debian Edu
1061 <p>Me and my friends did teach on week-ends in a government school for
1063 <a href=
"https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2012/10/08/sharings/">gathered
1064 some experience
</a> there. Some of the things we learnt/discovered
1069 <li>Most of the teachers are very territorial about their subjects
1070 and they do not want you to teach anything out of the
1071 portion/syllabus given.
</li>
1073 <li>They want any activity on the system in accordance to whatever
1074 is in the syllabus.
</li>
1076 <li>There are huge barriers both with the English language and at
1077 times with objects or whatever. An example, let's say in gcompris
1078 you have objects falling down and you have to name them and let's
1079 say the falling object is a hat or a fedora hat, this would not be
1080 as recognizable as say a
1081 <a href=
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puneri_Pagadi">Puneri
1082 Pagdi
</a> so there is need to inject local objects, words wherever
1083 possible. Especially for word-games there are so many hindi words
1084 which have become part of english vocabulary (for instance in
1085 parley), those could be made into a hinglish collection or
1086 something but that is something for upstream to do.
</li>
1093 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
1098 <div class=
"padding"></div>
1101 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/I_m_going_to_the_Open_Source_Developers__Conference_Nordic_2015_.html">I'm going to the Open Source Developers' Conference Nordic
2015!
</a></div>
1102 <div class=
"date"> 7th April
2015</div>
1103 <div class=
"body"><p>I am happy to let you all know that I'm going to the
<a
1104 href=
"http://act.osdc.no/osdc2015no/">Open Source Developers'
1105 Conference Nordic
2015</a>!
</p>
1107 <p>It take place Friday
8th to Sunday
10th of May in Oslo next to
1108 where I work, and I finally got around to submitting
1109 <a href=
"http://act.osdc.no/osdc2015no/talk/6192">a talk proposal for
1110 it
</a> (dead link for most people until the talk is accepted). As
1111 part of my involvement with the
1112 <a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/">Norwegian Unix User Group member
1113 association
</a> I have been slightly involved in the planning of this
1114 conference for a while now, with a focus on organising a Civic Hacking
1115 Hackathon with our friends
1116 over at
<a href=
"http://www.mysociety.org/">mySociety
</a> and
1117 <a href=
"http://www.holderdeord.no/">Holder de ord
</a>. This part is
1118 named the 'My Society' track in the program. There is still space for
1119 more talks and participants. I hope to see you there.
</p>
1121 <p>Check out
<a href=
"http://act.osdc.no/osdc2015no/talks">the talks
1122 submitted and accepted so far
</a>.
</p>
1127 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fiksgatami">fiksgatami
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/offentlig innsyn">offentlig innsyn
</a>.
1132 <div class=
"padding"></div>
1135 <div class=
"title"><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Proof_reading_the_Norwegian_translation_of_Free_Culture_by_Lessig.html">Proof reading the Norwegian translation of Free Culture by Lessig
</a></div>
1136 <div class=
"date"> 4th April
2015</div>
1137 <div class=
"body"><p>During eastern I had some time to continue working on the Norwegian
1138 <a href=
"http://www.docbook.org/">docbook
</a> version of the
2004 book
1139 <a href=
"http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture
</a> by Lawrence Lessig.
1140 At the moment I am proof reading the finished text, looking for typos,
1141 inconsistent wordings and sentences that do not flow as they should.
1142 I'm more than two thirds done with the text, and welcome others to
1143 check the text up to chapter
13. The current status is available on the
1144 <a href=
"https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">github
</a>
1145 project pages. You can also check out the
1146 <a href=
"https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/blob/master/archive/freeculture.nb.pdf?raw=true">PDF
</a>,
1147 <a href=
"https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/blob/master/archive/freeculture.nb.epub?raw=true">EPUB
</a>
1148 and HTML version available in the
1149 <a href=
"https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/tree/master/archive">archive
1152 <p>Please report typos, bugs and improvements to the github project if
1158 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/docbook">docbook
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/freeculture">freeculture
</a>.
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15)
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42)
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10)
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19)
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1428 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap (
9)
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1430 <li><a href=
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1432 <li><a href=
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2)
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1434 <li><a href=
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1)
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1440 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk (
262)
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1442 <li><a href=
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1444 <li><a href=
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1446 <li><a href=
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2)
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1448 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett (
52)
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1450 <li><a href=
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86)
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1452 <li><a href=
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1)
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1454 <li><a href=
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1)
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1456 <li><a href=
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11)
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1458 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/rfid">rfid (
3)
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1460 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/robot">robot (
9)
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1462 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/rss">rss (
1)
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1464 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ruter">ruter (
4)
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1466 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/scraperwiki">scraperwiki (
2)
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1468 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet (
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1470 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary (
4)
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1472 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/skepsis">skepsis (
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1474 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard (
47)
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1476 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll (
3)
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1478 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/stortinget">stortinget (
9)
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1480 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/surveillance">surveillance (
33)
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1482 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sysadmin">sysadmin (
2)
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1484 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/usenix">usenix (
2)
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1486 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/valg">valg (
8)
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1488 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video (
52)
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1490 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/vitenskap">vitenskap (
4)
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1492 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web (
36)
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