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15 <a href=
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23 <div class=
"title">Jami/Ring, finally functioning peer to peer communication client
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24 <div class=
"date">19th June
2019</div>
25 <div class=
"body"><p>Some years ago, in
2016, I
26 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Experience_and_updated_recipe_for_using_the_Signal_app_without_a_mobile_phone.html">wrote
27 for the first time about
</a> the Ring peer to peer messaging system.
28 It would provide messaging without any central server coordinating the
29 system and without requiring all users to register a phone number or
30 own a mobile phone. Back then, I could not get it to work, and put it
31 aside until it had seen more development. A few days ago I decided to
32 give it another try, and am happy to report that this time I am able
33 to not only send and receive messages, but also place audio and video
34 calls. But only if UDP is not blocked into your network.
</p>
36 <p>The Ring system changed name earlier this year to
37 <a href=
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jami_(software)">Jami
</a>. I
38 tried doing web search for 'ring' when I discovered it for the first
39 time, and can only applaud this change as it is impossible to find
40 something called Ring among the noise of other uses of that word. Now
41 you can search for 'jami' and this client and
42 <a href=
"https://jami.net/">the Jami system
</a> is the first hit at
43 least on duckduckgo.
</p>
45 <p>Jami will by default encrypt messages as well as audio and video
46 calls, and try to send them directly between the communicating parties
47 if possible. If this proves impossible (for example if both ends are
48 behind NAT), it will use a central SIP TURN server maintained by the
49 Jami project. Jami can also be a normal SIP client. If the SIP
50 server is unencrypted, the audio and video calls will also be
51 unencrypted. This is as far as I know the only case where Jami will
52 do anything without encryption.
</p>
54 <p>Jami is available for several platforms: Linux, Windows, MacOSX,
55 Android, iOS, and Android TV. It is included in Debian already. Jami
56 also work for those using F-Droid without any Google connections,
58 <a href=
"https://git.jami.net/savoirfairelinux/ring-project/wikis/technical/Protocol">The
59 protocol
</a> is described in the Ring project wiki. The system uses a
60 distributed hash table (DHT) system (similar to BitTorrent) running
61 over UDP. On one of the networks I use, I discovered Jami failed to
62 work. I tracked this down to the fact that incoming UDP packages
63 going to ports
1-
49999 were blocked, and the DHT would pick a random
64 port and end up in the low range most of the time. After talking to
65 the developers, I solved this by enabling the dhtproxy in the
66 settings, thus using TCP to talk to a central DHT proxy instead of
68 peering directly with others. I've been told the developers are
69 working on allowing DHT to use TCP to avoid this problem. I also ran
70 into a problem when trying to talk to the version of Ring included in
71 Debian Stable (Stretch). Apparently the protocol changed between
72 beta2 and the current version, making these clients incompatible.
73 Hopefully the protocol will not be made incompatible in the
76 <p>It is worth noting that while looking at Jami and its features, I
77 came across another communication platform I have not tested yet. The
78 <a href=
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tox_(protocol)">Tox protocol
</a>
79 and
<a href=
"https://tox.chat/">family of Tox clients
</a>. It might
80 become the topic of a future blog post.
</p>
82 <p>As usual, if you use Bitcoin and want to show your support of my
83 activities, please send Bitcoin donations to my address
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464 <li><a href=
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5)
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473 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2008/12/">December (
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484 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/3d-printer">3d-printer (
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486 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/amiga">amiga (
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488 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/aros">aros (
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492 <li><a href=
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494 <li><a href=
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496 <li><a href=
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498 <li><a href=
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500 <li><a href=
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2)
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502 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian (
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504 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu (
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506 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian-handbook">debian-handbook (
8)
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508 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/digistan">digistan (
11)
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510 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/dld">dld (
18)
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512 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/docbook">docbook (
30)
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514 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/drivstoffpriser">drivstoffpriser (
4)
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516 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english (
432)
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518 <li><a href=
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23)
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520 <li><a href=
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14)
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522 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/freeculture">freeculture (
34)
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524 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/freedombox">freedombox (
9)
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526 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/frikanalen">frikanalen (
20)
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528 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/h264">h264 (
20)
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530 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju (
43)
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532 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/isenkram">isenkram (
16)
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534 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart (
23)
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536 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kodi">kodi (
4)
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538 <li><a href=
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9)
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540 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/lego">lego (
5)
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542 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/lenker">lenker (
8)
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544 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/lsdvd">lsdvd (
2)
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546 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ltsp">ltsp (
1)
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548 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/madewithcc">madewithcc (
3)
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550 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/mesh network">mesh network (
8)
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552 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia (
42)
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554 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nice free software">nice free software (
13)
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556 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/noark5">noark5 (
23)
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558 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk (
319)
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560 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug (
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562 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/offentlig innsyn">offentlig innsyn (
40)
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564 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/open311">open311 (
2)
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566 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett (
75)
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568 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern (
113)
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570 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/raid">raid (
2)
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572 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/reactos">reactos (
1)
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574 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/reprap">reprap (
11)
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576 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/rfid">rfid (
3)
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578 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/robot">robot (
14)
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580 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/rss">rss (
1)
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582 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ruter">ruter (
7)
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584 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/scraperwiki">scraperwiki (
2)
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586 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet (
59)
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588 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary (
4)
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590 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/skepsis">skepsis (
5)
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592 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard (
71)
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594 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll (
7)
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596 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/stortinget">stortinget (
14)
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598 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/surveillance">surveillance (
61)
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600 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sysadmin">sysadmin (
5)
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602 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/usenix">usenix (
2)
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604 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/valg">valg (
9)
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606 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/verkidetfri">verkidetfri (
20)
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608 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video (
76)
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610 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/vitenskap">vitenskap (
4)
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612 <li><a href=
"https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web (
42)
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