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4 <title>Petter Reinholdtsen - Entries from November
2010</title>
5 <description>Entries from November
2010</description>
6 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/
</link>
10 <title>Norgeskartet på mange vis - via OpenStreetmap.org
</title>
11 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Norgeskartet_p___mange_vis___via_OpenStreetmap_org.html
</link>
12 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Norgeskartet_p___mange_vis___via_OpenStreetmap_org.html
</guid>
13 <pubDate>Mon,
1 Nov
2010 11:
15:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
15 <p
>Har oppdaget at mange ikke er klar over at OpenStreetmap.org er
16 tilgjengelig i en rekke forskjellige formater. Her er en liste med
17 eksporter jeg kjenner til for Norge, for de som trenger et
18 fribrukskart til sine tjenester:
</p
>
22 <li
>Cloudmade tilbyr OSM XML, Garmin Map Files, Osmosis country
23 bounding polygon, Shapefile, Navit maps, GPX POI, TomTom POI og OSM
24 XML feature extracts via
25 <a href=
"http://downloads.cloudmade.com/europe/norway
">sine
26 nedlastingssider
</a
>.
</li
>
28 <li
>Geofabric tilbyr
29 <a href=
"http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/norway.osm.bz2
">OSM
31 <a href=
"http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/norway.osm.pbf
">OSM
32 protobuf binærformat
</a
> og
33 <a href=
"http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/norway.shp.zip
">ESRI
34 Shapefile (EPSG:
4326)
</a
> fra sine nedlastingssider.
</li
>
36 <li
>Frikart.no tilbyr
37 <a href=
"http://www.frikart.no/garmin/
">Garmin-kart
</a
> i uike
38 varianter for veibruk og turbruk sommer og vinter.
</li
>
42 <p
>Kartene oppdateres regelmessig, som oftest hver uke. Det skulle
43 dermed være noe for enhver smak.
</p
>
48 <title>Making room on the Debian Edu/Sqeeze DVD
</title>
49 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Making_room_on_the_Debian_Edu_Sqeeze_DVD.html
</link>
50 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Making_room_on_the_Debian_Edu_Sqeeze_DVD.html
</guid>
51 <pubDate>Sun,
7 Nov
2010 11:
45:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
53 <p
>Prioritising packages for the Debian Edu /
54 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
> DVD, which is
55 supposed provide a school with all the services and user applications
56 needed on the pupils computer network has always been hard. Even
57 schools without Internet connections should be able to get Debian Edu
58 working using this DVD.
</p
>
60 <p
>The job became a lot harder when apt and aptitude started
61 installing recommended packages by default. We want the same set of
62 packages to be installed when using the DVD and the netinst CD, and
63 that means all recommended packages need to be on the DVD. I created
64 a patch for debian-cd in
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
601203">BTS
65 report #
601203</a
> to do this, and since this change was applied to
66 the Debian Edu DVD build, we have been seriously short on space.
</p
>
68 <p
>A few days ago we decided to drop blender, wxmaxima and kicad from
69 the default installation to save space on the DVD, believing that
70 those needing these applications are few and can get them from the
71 Debian archive.
</p
>
73 <p
>Yesterday, I had a look what source packages to see which packages
74 were using most space. A few large packages are well know;
75 openoffice.org, openclipart and fluid-soundfont. But I also
76 discovered that lilypond used
106 MiB and fglrx-driver used
53 MiB.
77 The lilypond package is pulled in as a dependency for rosegarden, and
78 when looking a bit closer I discovered that
99 MiB of the
106 MiB were
79 the documentation package, which is recommended by the binary package.
80 I decided to drop this documentation package from our DVD, as most of
81 our users will use the GUI front-ends and do not need the lilypond
82 documentation. Similarly, I dropped the non-free fglrx-driver package
83 which might be installed by d-i when its hardware is detected, as the
84 free X driver should work.
</p
>
86 <p
>With this change, we finally got space for the LXDE and Gnome
87 desktop packages as well as the language specific packages making the
88 DVD more useful again.
</p
>
93 <title>Datatilsynet mangler verktøyet som trengs for å kontrollere kameraovervåkning
</title>
94 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Datatilsynet_mangler_verkt__yet_som_trengs_for____kontrollere_kameraoverv__kning.html
</link>
95 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Datatilsynet_mangler_verkt__yet_som_trengs_for____kontrollere_kameraoverv__kning.html
</guid>
96 <pubDate>Tue,
9 Nov
2010 14:
35:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
98 <p
>En stund tilbake ble jeg oppmerksom på at Datatilsynets verktøy for
99 å holde rede på overvåkningskamera i Norge ikke var egnet til annet
100 enn å lage statistikk, og ikke kunne brukes for å kontrollere om et
101 overvåkningskamera i det offentlige rom er lovlig satt opp og
102 registrert. For å teste hypotesen sendte jeg for noen dager siden
103 følgende spørsmål til datatilsynet. Det omtalte kameraet står litt
104 merkelig plassert i veigrøften ved gangstien langs Sandakerveien, og
105 jeg lurer oppriktig på om det er lovlig plassert og registrert.
</p
>
107 <p
><blockquote
>
108 <p
>Date: Tue,
2 Nov
2010 16:
08:
20 +
0100
109 <br
>From: Petter Reinholdtsen
&lt;pere (at) hungry.com
&gt;
110 <br
>To: postkasse (at) datatilsynet.no
111 <br
>Subject: Er overvåkningskameraet korrekt registrert?
</p
>
113 <p
>Hei.
</p
>
115 <p
>I Nydalen i Oslo er det mange overvåkningskamera, og et av dem er
116 spesielt merkelig plassert like over et kumlokk. Jeg lurer på om
117 dette kameraet er korrekt registrert og i henhold til lovverket.
</p
>
119 <p
>Finner ingen eierinformasjon på kameraet, og dermed heller ingenting å
120 søke på i
&lt;URL:
121 <a href=
"http://hetti.datatilsynet.no/melding/report_search.pl
">http://hetti.datatilsynet.no/melding/report_search.pl
</a
> &gt;.
122 Kartreferanse for kameraet er tilgjengelig fra
124 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.no/pere/surveillance-norway/?zoom=
17&lat=
59.94918&lon=
10.76962&layers=B0T
">http://people.skolelinux.no/pere/surveillance-norway/?zoom=
17&lat=
59.94918&lon=
10.76962&layers=B0T
</a
> &gt;.
126 <p
>Kan dere fortelle meg om dette kameraet er registrert hos
127 Datatilsynet som det skal være i henhold til lovverket?
</p
>
129 <p
>Det hadde forresten vært fint om rådata fra kameraregisteret var
130 tilgjengelig på web og regelmessig oppdatert, for å kunne søke på
131 andre ting enn organisasjonsnavn og -nummer ved å laste det ned og
132 gjøre egne søk.
</p
>
134 <p
>Vennlig hilsen,
136 <br
>Petter Reinholdtsen
137 </blockquote
></p
>
139 <p
>Her er svaret som kom dagen etter:
</p
>
141 <p
><blockquote
>
142 <p
>Date: Wed,
3 Nov
2010 14:
44:
09 +
0100
143 <br
>From:
"juridisk
" &lt;juridisk (at) Datatilsynet.no
&gt;
144 <br
>To: Petter Reinholdtsen
145 <br
>Subject: VS: Er overvåkningskameraet korrekt registrert?
147 <p
>Viser til e-post av
2. november.
149 <p
>Datatilsynet er det forvaltningsorganet som skal kontrollere at
150 personopplysningsloven blir fulgt. Formålet med loven er å verne
151 enkeltpersoner mot krenking av personvernet gjennom behandling av
152 personopplysninger.
</p
>
154 <p
>Juridisk veiledningstjeneste hos Datatilsynet gir råd og veiledning
155 omkring personopplysningslovens regler på generelt grunnlag.
</p
>
157 <p
>Datatilsynet har dessverre ikke en fullstendig oversikt over alle
158 kameraer, den oversikten som finner er i vår meldingsdatabase som du
160 <a href=
"http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____211.aspx
">http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____211.aspx
</a
></p
>
162 <p
>Denne databasen gir en oversikt over virksomheter som har meldt inn
163 kameraovervåkning. Dersom man ikek vet hvilken virksomhet som er
164 ansvarlig, er det heller ikke mulig for Datatilsynet å søke dette
167 <p
>Webkameraer som har så dårlig oppløsning at man ikke kan gjenkjenne
168 enkeltpersoner er ikke meldepliktige, da dette ikke anses som
169 kameraovervåkning i personopplysningslovens forstand. Dersom kameraet
170 du sikter til er et slikt webkamera, vil det kanskje ikke finnes i
171 meldingsdatabasen på grunn av dette. Også dersom et kamera med god
172 oppløsning ikke filmer mennesker, faller det utenfor loven.
</p
>
174 <p
>Datatilsynet har laget en veileder som gjennomgår når det er lov å
175 overvåke med kamera, se lenke:
176 <a href=
"http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____401.aspx
">http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____401.aspx
</a
></p
>
178 <p
>Dersom det ikke er klart hvem som er ansvarlig for kameraet, er det
179 vanskelig for Datatilsynet å ta kontakt med den ansvarlige for å få
180 avklart om kameraet er satt opp i tråd med tilsynets regelverk. Dersom
181 du mener at kameraet ikke er lovlig ut fra informasjonen ovenfor, kan
182 kameraet anmeldes til politiet.
</p
>
184 <p
>Med vennlig hilsen
</p
>
187 <br
>Juridisk veiledningstjeneste
188 <br
>Datatilsynet
</p
>
189 </blockquote
></p
>
191 <p
>Personlig synes jeg det bør være krav om å registrere hvert eneste
192 overvåkningskamera i det offentlige rom hos Datatilsynet, med
193 kartreferanse og begrunnelse om hvorfor det er satt opp, slik at
194 enhver borger enkelt kan hente ut kart over områder vi er interessert
195 i og sjekke om det er overvåkningskamera der som er satt opp uten å
196 være registert. Slike registreringer skal jo i dag fornyes
197 regelmessing, noe jeg mistenker ikke blir gjort. Dermed kan kamera
198 som en gang var korrekt registrert nå være ulovlig satt opp. Det
199 burde også være bøter for å ha kamera som ikke er korrekt registrert,
200 slik at en ikke kan ignorere registrering uten at det får
201 konsekvenser.
</p
>
203 <p
>En ide fra England som jeg har sans (lite annet jeg har sans for
204 når det gjelder overvåkningskamera i England) for er at enhver borger
205 kan be om å få kopi av det som er tatt opp med et overvåkningskamera i
206 det offentlige rom, noe som gjør at det kan komme løpende utgifter ved
207 å sette overvåkningskamera. Jeg tror alt som gjør det mindre
208 attraktivt å ha overvåkningskamera i det offentlige rom er en god
209 ting, så et slikt lovverk i Norge tror jeg hadde vært nyttig.
</p
>
214 <title>Debian in
3D
</title>
215 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_in_3D.html
</link>
216 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_in_3D.html
</guid>
217 <pubDate>Tue,
9 Nov
2010 16:
10:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
219 <p
><img src=
"http://thingiverse-production.s3.amazonaws.com/renders/
23/e0/c4/f9/
2b/debswagtdose_preview_medium.jpg
"></p
>
221 <p
>3D printing is just great. I just came across this Debian logo in
223 <a href=
"http://blog.thingiverse.com/
2010/
11/
09/participatory-branding/
">the
224 thingiverse blog
</a
>.
</p
>
229 <title>Gjendikte sangen
"Copying Is Not Theft
" på Norsk?
</title>
230 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gjendikte_sangen__Copying_Is_Not_Theft__p___Norsk_.html
</link>
231 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gjendikte_sangen__Copying_Is_Not_Theft__p___Norsk_.html
</guid>
232 <pubDate>Wed,
10 Nov
2010 14:
40:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
234 <p
>En genial liten sang om kopiering og tyveri er
235 <a href=
"http://www.archive.org/details/CopyingIsNotTheft
">Copying Is
236 Not Theft
</a
> av Nina Paley. Den vil jeg at
237 <a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/
">NUUG
</a
> skal sende på
238 <a href=
"http://www.frikanalen.no/
">Frikanalen
</a
>, men først må vi
239 fikse norske undertekster eller dubbing. Og i og med at det er en
240 sang, tror jeg den kanskje bør gjendiktes.
242 Selve teksten finner en på bloggen til
243 <a href=
"http://blog.ninapaley.com/
2009/
12/
15/minute-meme-
1-copying-is-not-theft/
">tekstforfatteren
</a
> og den ser slik ut:
245 <p
><blockquote
>
246 <p
>Copying is not theft.
247 <br
>Stealing a thing leaves one less left
248 <br
>Copying it makes one thing more;
249 <br
>that
's what copying
's for.
</p
>
251 <p
>Copying is not theft.
252 <br
>If I copy yours you have it too
253 <br
>One for me and one for you
254 <br
>That
's what copies can do
</p
>
256 <p
>If I steal your bicycle
257 <br
>you have to take the bus,
258 <br
>but if I just copy it
259 <br
>there
's one for each of us!
</p
>
261 <p
>Making more of a thing,
262 <br
>that is what we call
"copying
"
263 <br
>Sharing ideas with everyone
264 <br
>That
's why copying
266 <br
>FUN!
</p
>
267 </blockquote
></p
>
269 <p
>Her er et naivt forsøk på oversettelse, uten noe forsøk på
270 gjendiktning eller få det til å flyte sammen med melodien.
</p
>
272 <p
><blockquote
>
273 <p
>Kopiering er ikke tyveri.
274 <br
>Stjeler du en ting er det en mindre igjen
275 <br
>Kopier den og det er ting til.
276 <br
>det er derfor vi har kopiering.
</p
>
278 <p
>Kopiering er ikke tyveri.
279 <br
>Hvis jeg kopierer din så har du den fortsatt
280 <br
>En for meg og en for deg.
281 <br
>Det er det kopier gir oss
</p
>
283 <p
>Hvis jeg stjeler sykkelen din
284 <br
>så må du ta bussen,
285 <br
>men hvis jeg bare kopierer den,
286 <br
>så får vi hver vår!
</p
>
288 <p
>Lage mer av en ting,
289 <br
>det er det vi kaller
"kopiering
".
290 <br
>Deler ideer med enhver
291 <br
>Det er derfor kopiering
293 <br
>MORSOMT!
</p
>
294 </blockquote
></p
>
296 <p
>Hvis du har forslag til bedre oversettelse eller lyst til å bidra
297 til å få denne sangen over i norsk språkdrakt, ta kontakt med video
298 (at) nuug.no.
</p
>
303 <title>Nå er
74 norske overvåkningskamera registert i OpenStreetmap.org
</title>
304 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/N___er_74_norske_overv__kningskamera_registert_i_OpenStreetmap_org.html
</link>
305 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/N___er_74_norske_overv__kningskamera_registert_i_OpenStreetmap_org.html
</guid>
306 <pubDate>Thu,
18 Nov
2010 11:
25:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
308 <p
>Jeg oppdaterte nettopp kartet med overvåkningskamera som
309 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Kart_over_overv__kningskamera_i_Norge.html
">jeg
310 startet
</a
> for ca. et og et halvt år siden, og nå er det
74 kamera på
311 plass. I prosessen med å oppdatere kartet oppdaget jeg ved en
312 tilfeldighet at webreferansen til registermeldingen hos Datatilsynet
313 nå ikke lenger er gyldig (se
314 <a href=
"http://hetti.datatilsynet.no/melding/report_view.pl?id=
31062">tidligere
315 melding
</a
>). Antar Datatilsynet fjerner utdaterte meldinger fra
316 databasen. Konsekvensen blir at kameraoversikten i OSM må ha med
317 søkekriteriene som ble brukt for å finne registermeldingen
318 (dvs. virksomhetsnavn og organisasjonsnummer), slik at eventuelt nye
319 meldinger for samme kamera kan finnes igjen.
</p
>
321 <p
>Det er dukket opp kamera på
322 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.no/pere/surveillance-norway/
">kartet
</a
>
323 i Bergensområdet, Stavangerområdet, Osloområdet, Gjøvikområdet og i
324 Troms. Mange områder og kamera mangler, og jeg er overbevist om at
325 bare en brøkdel av den enorme mengden kamera som nå finnes i det
326 offentlige rom er registrert så langt. Instrukser for å legge inn
327 kamera finnes på websiden for kartet hos
328 <a href=
"http://personvern.no/wiki/index.php/Kameraovervåkning
">personvernforeningen
</a
>.
</p
>
333 <title>Gnash buildbot slave and Debian kfreebsd
</title>
334 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gnash_buildbot_slave_and_Debian_kfreebsd.html
</link>
335 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gnash_buildbot_slave_and_Debian_kfreebsd.html
</guid>
336 <pubDate>Sat,
20 Nov
2010 07:
20:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
339 <a href=
"http://www.listware.net/
201011/gnash-dev/
67431-gnash-dev-buildbot-looking-for-slaves.html
">the
340 call from the Gnash project
</a
> for
341 <a href=
"http://www.gnashdev.org:
8010">buildbot
</a
> slaves to test the
342 current source, I have set up a virtual KVM machine on the Debian
343 Edu/Skolelinux virtualization host to test the git source on
344 Debian/Squeeze. I hope this can help the developers in getting new
345 releases out more often.
</p
>
347 <p
>As the developers want less main-stream build platforms tested to,
348 I have considered setting up a
<a
349 href=
"http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/
">Debian/kfreebsd
</a
>
350 machine as well. I have also considered using the kfreebsd
351 architecture in Debian as a file server in NUUG to get access to the
5
352 TB zfs volume we currently use to store DV video. Because of this, I
353 finally got around to do a test installation of Debian/Squeeze with
354 kfreebsd. Installation went fairly smooth, thought I noticed some
355 visual glitches in the cdebconf dialogs (black cursor left on the
356 screen at random locations). Have not gotten very far with the
357 testing. Noticed cfdisk did not work, but fdisk did so it was not a
358 fatal problem. Have to spend some more time on it to see if it is
359 useful as a file server for NUUG. Will try to find time to set up a
360 gnash buildbot slave on the Debian Edu/Skolelinux this weekend.
</p
>
365 <title>Lenny-
>Squeeze upgrades, apt vs aptitude with the Gnome and KDE desktop
</title>
366 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__apt_vs_aptitude_with_the_Gnome_and_KDE_desktop.html
</link>
367 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__apt_vs_aptitude_with_the_Gnome_and_KDE_desktop.html
</guid>
368 <pubDate>Sat,
20 Nov
2010 22:
50:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
370 <p
>I
'm still running upgrade testing of the
371 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/~pere/debian-upgrade-testing/
">Lenny
372 Gnome and KDE Desktop
</a
>, but have not had time to spend on reporting the
373 status. Here is a short update based on a test I ran
20101118.
</p
>
375 <p
>I still do not know what a correct migration should look like, so I
376 report any differences between apt and aptitude and hope someone else
377 can see if anything should be changed.
</p
>
379 <p
>This is for Gnome:
</p
>
381 <p
>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p
>
383 <blockquote
><p
>
384 apache2.2-bin aptdaemon at-spi baobab binfmt-support
385 browser-plugin-gnash cheese-common cli-common cpp-
4.3 cups-pk-helper
386 dmz-cursor-theme empathy empathy-common finger
387 freedesktop-sound-theme freeglut3 gconf-defaults-service gdm-themes
388 gedit-plugins geoclue geoclue-hostip geoclue-localnet geoclue-manual
389 geoclue-yahoo gnash gnash-common gnome gnome-backgrounds
390 gnome-cards-data gnome-codec-install gnome-core
391 gnome-desktop-environment gnome-disk-utility gnome-screenshot
392 gnome-search-tool gnome-session-canberra gnome-spell
393 gnome-system-log gnome-themes-extras gnome-themes-more
394 gnome-user-share gs-common gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
395 gstreamer0.10-tools gtk2-engines gtk2-engines-pixbuf
396 gtk2-engines-smooth hal-info hamster-applet libapache2-mod-dnssd
397 libapr1 libaprutil1 libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap
398 libart2.0-cil libatspi1.0-
0 libboost-date-time1.42
.0
399 libboost-python1.42
.0 libboost-thread1.42
.0 libchamplain-
0.4-
0
400 libchamplain-gtk-
0.4-
0 libcheese-gtk18 libclutter-gtk-
0.10-
0
401 libcryptui0 libcupsys2 libdiscid0 libeel2-data libelf1 libepc-
1.0-
2
402 libepc-common libepc-ui-
1.0-
2 libfreerdp-plugins-standard
403 libfreerdp0 libgail-common libgconf2.0-cil libgdata-common libgdata7
404 libgdl-
1-common libgdu-gtk0 libgee2 libgeoclue0 libgexiv2-
0 libgif4
405 libglade2.0-cil libglib2.0-cil libgmime2.4-cil libgnome-vfs2.0-cil
406 libgnome2.24-cil libgnomepanel2.24-cil libgnomeprint2.2-data
407 libgnomeprintui2.2-common libgnomevfs2-bin libgpod-common libgpod4
408 libgtk2.0-cil libgtkglext1 libgtksourceview-common
409 libgtksourceview2.0-common libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil
410 libmono-addins0.2-cil libmono-cairo2.0-cil libmono-corlib2.0-cil
411 libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil libmono-posix2.0-cil
412 libmono-security2.0-cil libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil
413 libmono-system2.0-cil libmtp8 libmusicbrainz3-
6
414 libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil libndesk-dbus1.0-cil libopal3.6
.8
415 libpolkit-gtk-
1-
0 libpt-
1.10.10-plugins-alsa
416 libpt-
1.10.10-plugins-v4l libpt2.6
.7 libpython2.6 librpm1 librpmio1
417 libsdl1.2debian libservlet2.4-java libsrtp0 libssh-
4
418 libtelepathy-farsight0 libtelepathy-glib0 libtidy-
0.99-
0
419 libxalan2-java libxerces2-java media-player-info mesa-utils
420 mono-
2.0-gac mono-gac mono-runtime nautilus-sendto
421 nautilus-sendto-empathy openoffice.org-writer2latex
422 openssl-blacklist p7zip p7zip-full pkg-config python-
4suite-xml
423 python-aptdaemon python-aptdaemon-gtk python-axiom
424 python-beautifulsoup python-bugbuddy python-clientform
425 python-coherence python-configobj python-crypto python-cupshelpers
426 python-cupsutils python-eggtrayicon python-elementtree
427 python-epsilon python-evolution python-feedparser python-gdata
428 python-gdbm python-gst0.10 python-gtkglext1 python-gtkmozembed
429 python-gtksourceview2 python-httplib2 python-louie python-mako
430 python-markupsafe python-mechanize python-nevow python-notify
431 python-opengl python-openssl python-pam python-pkg-resources
432 python-pyasn1 python-pysqlite2 python-rdflib python-serial
433 python-tagpy python-twisted-bin python-twisted-conch
434 python-twisted-core python-twisted-web python-utidylib python-webkit
435 python-xdg python-zope.interface remmina remmina-plugin-data
436 remmina-plugin-rdp remmina-plugin-vnc rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder
437 rhythmbox-plugins rpm-common rpm2cpio seahorse-plugins shotwell
438 software-center svgalibg1 system-config-printer-udev
439 telepathy-gabble telepathy-mission-control-
5 telepathy-salut tomboy
440 totem totem-coherence totem-mozilla totem-plugins
441 transmission-common xdg-user-dirs xdg-user-dirs-gtk xserver-xephyr
443 </p
></blockquote
>
445 Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
447 <blockquote
><p
>
448 arj bluez-utils cheese dhcdbd djvulibre-desktop ekiga eog
449 epiphany-extensions epiphany-gecko evolution-exchange
450 fast-user-switch-applet file-roller gcalctool gconf-editor gdm gedit
451 gedit-common gnome-app-install gnome-games gnome-games-data
452 gnome-nettool gnome-system-tools gnome-themes gnome-utils
453 gnome-vfs-obexftp gnome-volume-manager gnuchess gucharmap
454 guile-
1.8-libs hal libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-core5
455 libavahi-ui0 libbind9-
50 libbluetooth2 libcamel1.2-
11 libcdio7
456 libcucul0 libcurl3 libdirectfb-
1.0-
0 libdmx1 libdvdread3
457 libedata-cal1.2-
6 libedataserver1.2-
9 libeel2-
2.20 libepc-
1.0-
1
458 libepc-ui-
1.0-
1 libexchange-storage1.2-
3 libfaad0 libgadu3
459 libgalago3 libgd2-noxpm libgda3-
3 libgda3-common libggz2 libggzcore9
460 libggzmod4 libgksu1.2-
0 libgksuui1.0-
1 libgmyth0 libgnome-desktop-
2
461 libgnome-pilot2 libgnomecups1.0-
1 libgnomeprint2.2-
0
462 libgnomeprintui2.2-
0 libgpod3 libgraphviz4 libgtk-vnc-
1.0-
0
463 libgtkhtml2-
0 libgtksourceview1.0-
0 libgtksourceview2.0-
0
464 libgucharmap6 libhesiod0 libicu38 libisccc50 libisccfg50 libiw29
465 libjaxp1.3-java-gcj libkpathsea4 liblircclient0 libltdl3 liblwres50
466 libmagick++
10 libmagick10 libmalaga7 libmozjs1d libmpfr1ldbl libmtp7
467 libmysqlclient15off libnautilus-burn4 libneon27 libnm-glib0
468 libnm-util0 libopal-
2.2 libosp5 libparted1.8-
10 libpisock9
469 libpisync1 libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler3 libpt-
1.10.10 libraw1394-
8
470 libsdl1.2debian-alsa libsensors3 libsexy2 libsmbios2 libsoup2.2-
8
471 libspeexdsp1 libssh2-
1 libsuitesparse-
3.1.0 libsvga1
472 libswfdec-
0.6-
90 libtalloc1 libtotem-plparser10 libtrackerclient0
473 libvoikko1 libxalan2-java-gcj libxerces2-java-gcj libxklavier12
474 libxtrap6 libxxf86misc1 libzephyr3 mysql-common rhythmbox seahorse
475 sound-juicer swfdec-gnome system-config-printer totem-common
476 totem-gstreamer transmission-gtk vinagre vino w3c-dtd-xhtml wodim
477 </p
></blockquote
>
479 <p
>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p
>
481 <blockquote
><p
>
482 gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
483 </p
></blockquote
>
485 <p
>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p
>
487 <blockquote
><p
>
489 </p
></blockquote
>
491 <p
>This is for KDE:
</p
>
493 <p
>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p
>
495 <blockquote
><p
>
496 autopoint bomber bovo cantor cantor-backend-kalgebra cpp-
4.3 dcoprss
497 edict espeak espeak-data eyesapplet fifteenapplet finger gettext
498 ghostscript-x git gnome-audio gnugo granatier gs-common
499 gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio indi kaddressbook-plugins kalgebra
500 kalzium-data kanjidic kapman kate-plugins kblocks kbreakout kbstate
501 kde-icons-mono kdeaccessibility kdeaddons-kfile-plugins
502 kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-theme-window
503 kdeedu kdeedu-data kdeedu-kvtml-data kdegames kdegames-card-data
504 kdegames-mahjongg-data kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelirc
505 kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdenetwork-kfile-plugins
506 kdepim-kfile-plugins kdepim-kio-plugins kdessh kdetoys kdewebdev
507 kdiamond kdnssd kfilereplace kfourinline kgeography-data kigo
508 killbots kiriki klettres-data kmoon kmrml knewsticker-scripts
509 kollision kpf krosspython ksirk ksmserver ksquares kstars-data
510 ksudoku kubrick kweather libasound2-plugins libboost-python1.42
.0
511 libcfitsio3 libconvert-binhex-perl libcrypt-ssleay-perl libdb4.6++
512 libdjvulibre-text libdotconf1.0 liberror-perl libespeak1
513 libfinance-quote-perl libgail-common libgsl0ldbl libhtml-parser-perl
514 libhtml-tableextract-perl libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl
515 libio-stringy-perl libkdeedu4 libkdegames5 libkiten4 libkpathsea5
516 libkrossui4 libmailtools-perl libmime-tools-perl
517 libnews-nntpclient-perl libopenbabel3 libportaudio2 libpulse-browse0
518 libservlet2.4-java libspeechd2 libtiff-tools libtimedate-perl
519 libunistring0 liburi-perl libwww-perl libxalan2-java libxerces2-java
520 lirc luatex marble networkstatus noatun-plugins
521 openoffice.org-writer2latex palapeli palapeli-data parley
522 parley-data poster psutils pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat
523 pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-utils quanta-data rocs rsync
524 speech-dispatcher step svgalibg1 texlive-binaries texlive-luatex
526 </p
></blockquote
>
528 <p
>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
</p
>
530 <blockquote
><p
>
531 amor artsbuilder atlantik atlantikdesigner blinken bluez-utils cvs
532 dhcdbd djvulibre-desktop imlib-base imlib11 kalzium kanagram kandy
533 kasteroids katomic kbackgammon kbattleship kblackbox kbounce kbruch
534 kcron kdat kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data kdeprint kdict kdvi kedit
535 keduca kenolaba kfax kfaxview kfouleggs kgeography kghostview
536 kgoldrunner khangman khexedit kiconedit kig kimagemapeditor
537 kitchensync kiten kjumpingcube klatin klettres klickety klines
538 klinkstatus kmag kmahjongg kmailcvt kmenuedit kmid kmilo kmines
539 kmousetool kmouth kmplot knetwalk kodo kolf kommander konquest kooka
540 kpager kpat kpdf kpercentage kpilot kpoker kpovmodeler krec
541 kregexpeditor kreversi ksame ksayit kshisen ksig ksim ksirc ksirtet
542 ksmiletris ksnake ksokoban kspaceduel kstars ksvg ksysv kteatime
543 ktip ktnef ktouch ktron kttsd ktuberling kturtle ktux kuickshow
544 kverbos kview kviewshell kvoctrain kwifimanager kwin kwin4 kwordquiz
545 kworldclock kxsldbg libakode2 libarts1-akode libarts1-audiofile
546 libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libavahi-compat-libdnssd1
547 libavahi-core5 libavc1394-
0 libbind9-
50 libbluetooth2
548 libboost-python1.34
.1 libcucul0 libcurl3 libcvsservice0
549 libdirectfb-
1.0-
0 libdjvulibre21 libdvdread3 libfaad0 libfreebob0
550 libgd2-noxpm libgraphviz4 libgsmme1c2a libgtkhtml2-
0 libicu38
551 libiec61883-
0 libindex0 libisccc50 libisccfg50 libiw29
552 libjaxp1.3-java-gcj libk3b3 libkcal2b libkcddb1 libkdeedu3
553 libkdegames1 libkdepim1a libkgantt0 libkleopatra1 libkmime2
554 libkpathsea4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libkscan1
555 libksieve0 libktnef1 liblockdev1 libltdl3 liblwres50 libmagick10
556 libmimelib1c2a libmodplug0c2 libmozjs1d libmpcdec3 libmpfr1ldbl
557 libneon27 libnm-util0 libopensync0 libpisock9 libpoppler-glib3
558 libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler3 libraw1394-
8 librss1 libsensors3
559 libsmbios2 libssh2-
1 libsuitesparse-
3.1.0 libswfdec-
0.6-
90
560 libtalloc1 libxalan2-java-gcj libxerces2-java-gcj libxtrap6 lskat
561 mpeglib network-manager-kde noatun pmount tex-common texlive-base
562 texlive-common texlive-doc-base texlive-fonts-recommended tidy
563 ttf-dustin ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-sjfonts
564 </p
></blockquote
>
566 <p
>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p
>
568 <blockquote
><p
>
569 dolphin kde-core kde-plasma-desktop kde-standard kde-window-manager
570 kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-apps kdebase-workspace
571 kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-data kdeutils kscreensaver
572 kscreensaver-xsavers libgle3 libkonq5 libkonq5-templates libnetpbm10
573 netpbm plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-networkmanagement
574 xscreensaver-data-extra xscreensaver-gl xscreensaver-gl-extra
575 xscreensaver-screensaver-bsod
576 </p
></blockquote
>
578 <p
>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p
>
580 <blockquote
><p
>
581 kdebase-bin konq-plugins konqueror
582 </p
></blockquote
>
587 <title>Migrating Xen virtual machines using LVM to KVM using disk images
</title>
588 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Migrating_Xen_virtual_machines_using_LVM_to_KVM_using_disk_images.html
</link>
589 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Migrating_Xen_virtual_machines_using_LVM_to_KVM_using_disk_images.html
</guid>
590 <pubDate>Mon,
22 Nov
2010 11:
20:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
592 <p
>Most of the computers in use by the
593 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu/Skolelinux project
</a
>
594 are virtual machines. And they have been Xen machines running on a
595 fairly old IBM eserver xseries
345 machine, and we wanted to migrate
596 them to KVM on a newer Dell PowerEdge
2950 host machine. This was a
597 bit harder that it could have been, because we set up the Xen virtual
598 machines to get the virtual partitions from LVM, which as far as I
599 know is not supported by KVM. So to migrate, we had to convert
600 several LVM logical volumes to partitions on a virtual disk file.
</p
>
603 <a href=
"http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com.au/articles/
35011-Six-steps-for-migrating-Xen-virtual-machines-to-KVM
">a
604 nice recipe
</a
> to do this, and wrote the following script to do the
605 migration. It uses qemu-img from the qemu package to make the disk
606 image, parted to partition it, losetup and kpartx to present the disk
607 image partions as devices, and dd to copy the data. I NFS mounted the
608 new servers storage area on the old server to do the migration.
</p
>
614 # http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com.au/articles/
35011-Six-steps-for-migrating-Xen-virtual-machines-to-KVM
619 if [ -z
"$
1" ] ; then
620 echo
"Usage: $
0 &lt;hostname
&gt;
"
626 if [ ! -e /dev/vg_data/$host-disk ] ; then
627 echo
"error: unable to find LVM volume for $host
"
631 # Partitions need to be a bit bigger than the LVM LVs. not sure why.
632 disksize=$( lvs --units m | grep $host-disk | awk
'{sum = sum + $
4} END { print int(sum *
1.05) }
')
633 swapsize=$( lvs --units m | grep $host-swap | awk
'{sum = sum + $
4} END { print int(sum *
1.05) }
')
634 totalsize=$(( ( $disksize + $swapsize ) ))
637 #dd if=/dev/zero of=$img bs=
1M count=$(( $disksize + $swapsize ))
638 qemu-img create $img ${totalsize}MMaking room on the Debian Edu/Sqeeze DVD
640 parted $img mklabel msdos
641 parted $img mkpart primary linux-swap
0 $disksize
642 parted $img mkpart primary ext2 $disksize $totalsize
643 parted $img set
1 boot on
646 losetup /dev/loop0 $img
649 dd if=/dev/vg_data/$host-disk of=/dev/mapper/loop0p1 bs=
1M
650 fsck.ext3 -f /dev/mapper/loop0p1 || true
651 mkswap /dev/mapper/loop0p2
654 losetup -d /dev/loop0
657 <p
>The script is perhaps so simple that it is not copyrightable, but
658 if it is, it is licenced using GPL v2 or later at your discretion.
</p
>
660 <p
>After doing this, I booted a Debian CD in rescue mode in KVM with
661 the new disk image attached, installed grub-pc and linux-image-
686 and
662 set up grub to boot from the disk image. After this, the KVM machines
663 seem to work just fine.
</p
>
668 <title>Lenny-
>Squeeze upgrades of the Gnome and KDE desktop, now with apt-get autoremove
</title>
669 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades_of_the_Gnome_and_KDE_desktop__now_with_apt_get_autoremove.html
</link>
670 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades_of_the_Gnome_and_KDE_desktop__now_with_apt_get_autoremove.html
</guid>
671 <pubDate>Mon,
22 Nov
2010 14:
15:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
673 <p
>Michael Biebl suggested to me on IRC, that I changed my automated
674 upgrade testing of the
675 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/~pere/debian-upgrade-testing/
">Lenny
676 Gnome and KDE Desktop
</a
> to do
<tt
>apt-get autoremove
</tt
> when using apt-get.
677 This seem like a very good idea, so I adjusted by test scripts and
678 can now present the updated result from today:
</p
>
680 <p
>This is for Gnome:
</p
>
682 <p
>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p
>
684 <blockquote
><p
>
696 freedesktop-sound-theme
698 gconf-defaults-service
713 gnome-desktop-environment
717 gnome-session-canberra
722 gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
731 libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3
734 libboost-date-time1.42
.0
735 libboost-python1.42
.0
736 libboost-thread1.42
.0
738 libchamplain-gtk-
0.4-
0
740 libclutter-gtk-
0.10-
0
747 libfreerdp-plugins-standard
762 libgnomepanel2.24-cil
767 libgtksourceview2.0-common
768 libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil
769 libmono-addins0.2-cil
771 libmono-corlib2.0-cil
772 libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil
774 libmono-security2.0-cil
775 libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil
776 libmono-system2.0-cil
779 libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil
790 libtelepathy-farsight0
799 nautilus-sendto-empathy
820 python-gtksourceview2
844 python-zope.interface
849 rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder
856 system-config-printer-udev
858 telepathy-mission-control-
5
869 </p
></blockquote
>
871 <p
>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
</p
>
873 <blockquote
><p
>
879 fast-user-switch-applet
898 libgtksourceview2.0-
0
906 system-config-printer
911 </p
></blockquote
>
913 <p
>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p
>
915 <blockquote
><p
>
916 gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
917 </p
></blockquote
>
919 <p
>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p
>
921 <blockquote
><p
>
923 </p
></blockquote
>
925 <p
>This is for KDE:
</p
>
927 <p
>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p
>
929 <blockquote
><p
>
931 </p
></blockquote
>
933 <p
>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
</p
>
935 <blockquote
><p
>
938 </p
></blockquote
>
940 <p
>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p
>
942 <blockquote
><p
>
958 kdeartwork-theme-icon
962 kdebase-workspace-bin
963 kdebase-workspace-data
992 plasma-dataengines-workspace
994 plasma-desktopthemes-artwork
995 plasma-runners-addons
996 plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets
997 plasma-scriptengine-python
998 plasma-scriptengine-qedje
999 plasma-scriptengine-ruby
1000 plasma-scriptengine-webkit
1001 plasma-scriptengines
1002 plasma-wallpapers-addons
1003 plasma-widget-folderview
1004 plasma-widget-networkmanagement
1008 xscreensaver-data-extra
1010 xscreensaver-gl-extra
1011 xscreensaver-screensaver-bsod
1012 </p
></blockquote
>
1014 <p
>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p
>
1016 <blockquote
><p
>
1018 google-gadgets-common
1036 libggadget-qt-
1.0-
0b
1041 libkonqsidebarplugin4a
1050 libplasma-geolocation-interface4
1052 libplasmagenericshell4
1066 libsmokeknewstuff2-
3
1067 libsmokeknewstuff3-
3
1069 libsmokektexteditor3
1077 libsmokeqtnetwork4-
3
1083 libsmokeqtuitools4-
3
1095 plasma-dataengines-addons
1096 plasma-scriptengine-superkaramba
1097 plasma-widget-lancelot
1098 plasma-widgets-addons
1099 plasma-widgets-workspace
1103 update-notifier-common
1104 </p
></blockquote
>
1106 <p
>Running apt-get autoremove made the results using apt-get and
1107 aptitude a bit more similar, but there are still quite a lott of
1108 differences. I have no idea what packages should be installed after
1109 the upgrade, but hope those that do can have a look.
</p
>
1114 <title>DND hedrer overvåkning av barn med Rosingsprisen
</title>
1115 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/DND_hedrer_overv__kning_av_barn_med_Rosingsprisen.html
</link>
1116 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/DND_hedrer_overv__kning_av_barn_med_Rosingsprisen.html
</guid>
1117 <pubDate>Tue,
23 Nov
2010 14:
15:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
1119 <p
>Jeg registrerer med vond smak i munnen at Den Norske Dataforening
1121 href=
"http://www.dataforeningen.no/hedret-med-rosingprisen
.4849070-
133913.html
">hedrer
1122 overvåkning av barn med Rosingsprisen for kreativitet i år
</a
>. Jeg
1123 er glad jeg nå er meldt ut av DND.
</p
>
1125 <p
>Å elektronisk overvåke sine barn er ikke å gjøre dem en tjeneste,
1126 men et overgrep mot individer i utvikling som bør læres opp til å ta
1127 egne valg.
</p
>
1129 <p
>For å sitere Datatilsynets nye leder, Bjørn Erik Thon, i
1130 <a href=
"http://www.idg.no/computerworld/article174262.ece
">et intervju
1131 med Computerworld Norge
</A
>:
</p
>
1133 <p
><blockquote
>
1134 - For alle som har barn, meg selv inkludert, er førstetanken at det
1135 hadde vært fint å vite hvor barnet sitt er til enhver tid. Men ungene
1136 har ikke godt av det. De er små individer som skal søke rundt og finne
1137 sine små gjemmesteder og utvide horisonten, uten at foreldrene ser dem
1138 i kortene. Det kan være fristende, men jeg ville ikke gått inn i
1140 </blockquote
></p
>
1142 <p
>Det er skremmende å se at DND mener en tjeneste som legger opp til
1143 slike overgrep bør hedres. Å flytte oppveksten for barn inn i en
1145 <a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon
">Panopticon
</a
> er et
1146 grovt overgrep og vil gjøre skade på barnenes utvikling, og foreldre
1147 burde tenke seg godt om før de gir etter for sine instinkter her.
</p
>
1149 <p
>Blipper-tjenesten får meg til å tenke på bøkene til
1150 <a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Twelve_Hawks
">John Twelve
1151 Hawks
</a
>, som forbilledlig beskriver hvordan et totalitært
1152 overvåkningssamfunn bygges sakte men sikkert rundt oss, satt sammen av
1153 gode intensjoner og manglende bevissthet om hvilke prinsipper et
1154 liberalt demokrati er fundamentert på. Jeg har hatt stor glede av å
1155 lese alle de tre bøkene.
</p
>
1160 <title>Why isn
't Debian Edu using VLC?
</title>
1161 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Why_isn_t_Debian_Edu_using_VLC_.html
</link>
1162 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Why_isn_t_Debian_Edu_using_VLC_.html
</guid>
1163 <pubDate>Sat,
27 Nov
2010 11:
30:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
1165 <p
>In the latest issue of Linux Journal, the readers choices were
1166 presented, and the winner among the multimedia player were VLC.
1167 Personally, I like VLC, and it is my player of choice when I first try
1168 to play a video file or stream. Only if VLC fail will I drag out
1169 gmplayer to see if it can do better. The reason is mostly the failure
1170 model and trust. When VLC fail, it normally pop up a error message
1171 reporting the problem. When mplayer fail, it normally segfault or
1172 just hangs. The latter failure mode drain my trust in the program.
<p
>
1174 <p
>But even if VLC is my player of choice, we have choosen to use
1175 mplayer in
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian
1176 Edu/Skolelinux
</a
>. The reason is simple. We need a good browser
1177 plugin to play web videos seamlessly, and the VLC browser plugin is
1178 not very good. For example, it lack in-line control buttons, so there
1179 is no way for the user to pause the video. Also, when I
1180 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/BrowserMultimedia
">last
1181 tested the browser plugins
</a
> available in Debian, the VLC plugin
1182 failed on several video pages where mplayer based plugins worked. If
1183 the browser plugin for VLC was as good as the gecko-mediaplayer
1184 package (which uses mplayer), we would switch.
</P
>
1186 <p
>While VLC is a good player, its user interface is slightly
1187 annoying. The most annoying feature is its inconsistent use of
1188 keyboard shortcuts. When the player is in full screen mode, its
1189 shortcuts are different from when it is playing the video in a window.
1190 For example, space only work as pause when in full screen mode. I
1191 wish it had consisten shortcuts and that space also would work when in
1192 window mode. Another nice shortcut in gmplayer is [enter] to restart
1193 the current video. It is very nice when playing short videos from the
1194 web and want to restart it when new people arrive to have a look at
1195 what is going on.
</p
>
1200 <title>Debian Edu development gathering and General Assembly for FRiSK
</title>
1201 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_development_gathering_and_General_Assembly_for_FRiSK.html
</link>
1202 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_development_gathering_and_General_Assembly_for_FRiSK.html
</guid>
1203 <pubDate>Mon,
29 Nov
2010 18:
40:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
1205 <p
>On friday, the first Debian Edu / Skolelinux
1206 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/Gathering/
2010-
12-
03-
05-Oslo
">development
1207 gathering
</a
> in a long time take place here in Oslo, Norway. I
1208 really look forward to seeing all the good people working on the
1209 Squeeze release. The gathering is open for everyone interested in
1210 learning more about Debian Edu / Skolelinux.
</p
>
1212 <p
>On Saturday, the Norwegian member organization taking care of
1213 organizing these development gatherings, Fri Programvare i Skolen,
1215 <a href=
"http://friprogramvareiskolen.no/Genfors/
2010">General Assembly
1216 for
2010</a
>. Membership is open for all, and currently there are
388
1217 people registered as members. Last year
32 members cast their vote in
1218 the memberdb based election system. I hope more people find time to
1219 vote this year.
</p
>