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15 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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22 <h3>Entries from March 2010.</h3>
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26 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/P__vegne_av_vanvitting_mange__Aftenposten_.html">På vegne av vanvitting mange, Aftenposten!</a>
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29 6th March 2010
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32 <p><a href="http://fotball.aftenposten.no/incoming/article163000.ece">Aftenposten
33 melder</a> på forsiden av webavisen sin at de tror Erling Fossen
34 provoserer nordlendinger med sine uttalelser på
35 fotballtinget. Jeg er utflyttet nordlending, og må innrømme at jeg
36 ikke kjennet så mye som et snev av provokasjon fra denne litt morsomme
37 uttalelsen til Hr. Fossen. Lurer på om Aftenposten har noen kilder
38 utenom redaksjonen for sin påstand om at nordledinger er provosert av
39 Hr. Fossen. Må innrømme at jeg tviler på det.</p>
40
41 <p>Det hele bringer tankene tilbake til Sture Hansen i Hallo i Uken.</p>
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47 Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>.
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56 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/After_6_years_of_waiting__the_Xreset_d_feature_is_implemented.html">After 6 years of waiting, the Xreset.d feature is implemented</a>
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59 6th March 2010
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62 <p>6 years ago, as part of the Debian Edu development I am involved
63 in, I asked for a hook in the kdm and gdm setup to run scripts as root
64 when the user log out. A bug was submitted against the xfree86-common
65 package in 2004 (<a href="http://bugs.debian.org/230422">#230422</a>),
66 and revisited every time Debian Edu was working on a new release.
67 Today, this finally paid off.</p>
68
69 <p>The framework for this feature was today commited to the git
70 repositry for the xorg package, and the git repository for xdm has
71 been updated to use this framework. Next on my agenda is to make sure
72 kdm and gdm also add code to use this framework.</p>
73
74 <p>In Debian Edu, we want to ability to run commands as root when the
75 user log out, to get rid of runaway processes and do general cleanup
76 after a user. With this framework in place, we finally can do that in
77 a generic way that work with all display managers using this
78 framework. My goal is to get all display managers in Debian use it,
79 similar to how they use the Xsession.d framework today.<p>
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85 Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
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94 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Digitale_b_ker_uten_digitale_restriksjonsmekanismer__DRM__b_r_f__mva_fritak.html">Digitale bøker uten digitale restriksjonsmekanismer (DRM) bør få mva-fritak</a>
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97 3rd March 2010
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100 <p>Den norske bokbransjen har
101 <a href="http://www.digi.no/823912/nei-til-moms-paa-e-boker">bedt om at
102 digitale bøker må få mva-fritak</a> slik papirbøker har det, og
103 <a href="http://www.digi.no/836875/moms-paa-alt-digitalt-innhold">finansdepartementet
104 har sagt nei</a>. Det er et interessant spørsmål om digitale bøker
105 bør ha mva-fritak eller ikke, og svaret er ikke så enkelt som et ja
106 eller nei.
107 <a href="http://www.digi.no/836925/norske-e-boker-truet-av-moms">Enkelte
108 medlemmer</a> av bokbransjen truer med å droppe den planlagte
109 lanseringen av norske digitale bøker med digitale restriksjonsmekanismer
110 (DRM) som de har snakket om å gjennomføre nå i vår, og det må de
111 gjerne gjøre for min del.</p>
112
113 <p>Papirbøker har mva-fritak pga. at de fremmer kultur- og
114 kunnskapsspredning. Digitale bøker uten digitale
115 restriksjonsmekanismer (DRM) fremmer kultur- og kunnskapsspredning,
116 mens digitale bøker med DRM hindrer kultur og kunnskapsspredning.
117 Digitale bøker uten DRM bør få mva-fritak da det er salg av bøker på
118 lik linje med salg av papirbøker, mens digitale bøker med DRM ikke bør
119 få det da det er utleie av bøker og ikke salg.</p>
120
121 <p>Jeg foretrekker å kjøpe bøker, og velger dermed å la være å bruke
122 DRM-belastede digitale bøker. Vet ikke helt hva jeg ville være villig
123 til å betale for å leie en bok, men tror ikke det er mange kronene.
124 Heldigvis er det mye bøker tilgjengelig uten slike restriksjoner, og
125 de som vil ha tak i engelske bøker kan laste ned bøker som er
126 tilgjengelig uten bruksbegresninger fra <a href="http://www.archive.org/">The
127 Internet Archive</a>. Der er det pr. i dag 1 889 313 bøker
128 tilgjengelig. De er tilgjengelig i flere formater. Besøk
129 <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/texts">oversikten over tekster
130 der</a> for å se hva de har.
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136 Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett</a>.
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148 <h2>Archive</h2>
149 <ul>
150
151 <li>2016
152 <ul>
153
154 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2016/01/">January (3)</a></li>
155
156 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2016/02/">February (2)</a></li>
157
158 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2016/03/">March (3)</a></li>
159
160 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2016/04/">April (8)</a></li>
161
162 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2016/05/">May (8)</a></li>
163
164 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2016/06/">June (2)</a></li>
165
166 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2016/07/">July (2)</a></li>
167
168 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2016/08/">August (4)</a></li>
169
170 </ul></li>
171
172 <li>2015
173 <ul>
174
175 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2015/01/">January (7)</a></li>
176
177 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2015/02/">February (6)</a></li>
178
179 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2015/03/">March (1)</a></li>
180
181 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2015/04/">April (4)</a></li>
182
183 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2015/05/">May (3)</a></li>
184
185 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2015/06/">June (4)</a></li>
186
187 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2015/07/">July (6)</a></li>
188
189 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2015/08/">August (2)</a></li>
190
191 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2015/09/">September (2)</a></li>
192
193 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2015/10/">October (9)</a></li>
194
195 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2015/11/">November (6)</a></li>
196
197 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2015/12/">December (3)</a></li>
198
199 </ul></li>
200
201 <li>2014
202 <ul>
203
204 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2014/01/">January (2)</a></li>
205
206 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2014/02/">February (3)</a></li>
207
208 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2014/03/">March (8)</a></li>
209
210 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2014/04/">April (7)</a></li>
211
212 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2014/05/">May (1)</a></li>
213
214 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2014/06/">June (2)</a></li>
215
216 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2014/07/">July (2)</a></li>
217
218 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2014/08/">August (2)</a></li>
219
220 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2014/09/">September (5)</a></li>
221
222 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2014/10/">October (6)</a></li>
223
224 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2014/11/">November (3)</a></li>
225
226 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2014/12/">December (5)</a></li>
227
228 </ul></li>
229
230 <li>2013
231 <ul>
232
233 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2013/01/">January (11)</a></li>
234
235 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2013/02/">February (9)</a></li>
236
237 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2013/03/">March (9)</a></li>
238
239 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2013/04/">April (6)</a></li>
240
241 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2013/05/">May (9)</a></li>
242
243 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2013/06/">June (10)</a></li>
244
245 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2013/07/">July (7)</a></li>
246
247 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2013/08/">August (3)</a></li>
248
249 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2013/09/">September (5)</a></li>
250
251 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2013/10/">October (7)</a></li>
252
253 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2013/11/">November (9)</a></li>
254
255 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2013/12/">December (3)</a></li>
256
257 </ul></li>
258
259 <li>2012
260 <ul>
261
262 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/01/">January (7)</a></li>
263
264 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/02/">February (10)</a></li>
265
266 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/03/">March (17)</a></li>
267
268 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/04/">April (12)</a></li>
269
270 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/05/">May (12)</a></li>
271
272 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/06/">June (20)</a></li>
273
274 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/07/">July (17)</a></li>
275
276 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/08/">August (6)</a></li>
277
278 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/09/">September (9)</a></li>
279
280 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/10/">October (17)</a></li>
281
282 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/11/">November (10)</a></li>
283
284 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/12/">December (7)</a></li>
285
286 </ul></li>
287
288 <li>2011
289 <ul>
290
291 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/01/">January (16)</a></li>
292
293 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/02/">February (6)</a></li>
294
295 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/03/">March (6)</a></li>
296
297 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/04/">April (7)</a></li>
298
299 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/05/">May (3)</a></li>
300
301 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/06/">June (2)</a></li>
302
303 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/07/">July (7)</a></li>
304
305 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/08/">August (6)</a></li>
306
307 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/09/">September (4)</a></li>
308
309 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/10/">October (2)</a></li>
310
311 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/11/">November (3)</a></li>
312
313 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/12/">December (1)</a></li>
314
315 </ul></li>
316
317 <li>2010
318 <ul>
319
320 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/01/">January (2)</a></li>
321
322 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/02/">February (1)</a></li>
323
324 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/03/">March (3)</a></li>
325
326 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/04/">April (3)</a></li>
327
328 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/05/">May (9)</a></li>
329
330 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/06/">June (14)</a></li>
331
332 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/07/">July (12)</a></li>
333
334 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/08/">August (13)</a></li>
335
336 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/09/">September (7)</a></li>
337
338 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/10/">October (9)</a></li>
339
340 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/11/">November (13)</a></li>
341
342 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/12/">December (12)</a></li>
343
344 </ul></li>
345
346 <li>2009
347 <ul>
348
349 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/01/">January (8)</a></li>
350
351 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/02/">February (8)</a></li>
352
353 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/03/">March (12)</a></li>
354
355 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/04/">April (10)</a></li>
356
357 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/05/">May (9)</a></li>
358
359 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/06/">June (3)</a></li>
360
361 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/07/">July (4)</a></li>
362
363 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/08/">August (3)</a></li>
364
365 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/09/">September (1)</a></li>
366
367 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/10/">October (2)</a></li>
368
369 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/11/">November (3)</a></li>
370
371 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/12/">December (3)</a></li>
372
373 </ul></li>
374
375 <li>2008
376 <ul>
377
378 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2008/11/">November (5)</a></li>
379
380 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2008/12/">December (7)</a></li>
381
382 </ul></li>
383
384 </ul>
385
386
387
388 <h2>Tags</h2>
389 <ul>
390
391 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/3d-printer">3d-printer (13)</a></li>
392
393 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/amiga">amiga (1)</a></li>
394
395 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/aros">aros (1)</a></li>
396
397 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bankid">bankid (4)</a></li>
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399 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bitcoin">bitcoin (9)</a></li>
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401 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem (16)</a></li>
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403 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bsa">bsa (2)</a></li>
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405 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/chrpath">chrpath (2)</a></li>
406
407 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian (134)</a></li>
408
409 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu (157)</a></li>
410
411 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/digistan">digistan (10)</a></li>
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413 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/dld">dld (15)</a></li>
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415 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/docbook">docbook (23)</a></li>
416
417 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/drivstoffpriser">drivstoffpriser (4)</a></li>
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419 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english (326)</a></li>
420
421 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fiksgatami">fiksgatami (23)</a></li>
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423 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fildeling">fildeling (12)</a></li>
424
425 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/freeculture">freeculture (28)</a></li>
426
427 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/freedombox">freedombox (9)</a></li>
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429 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/frikanalen">frikanalen (18)</a></li>
430
431 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/h264">h264 (20)</a></li>
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433 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju (42)</a></li>
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435 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/isenkram">isenkram (12)</a></li>
436
437 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart (19)</a></li>
438
439 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap (9)</a></li>
440
441 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/lenker">lenker (8)</a></li>
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443 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/lsdvd">lsdvd (2)</a></li>
444
445 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ltsp">ltsp (1)</a></li>
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447 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/mesh network">mesh network (8)</a></li>
448
449 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia (39)</a></li>
450
451 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nice free software">nice free software (8)</a></li>
452
453 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk (276)</a></li>
454
455 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug (182)</a></li>
456
457 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/offentlig innsyn">offentlig innsyn (26)</a></li>
458
459 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/open311">open311 (2)</a></li>
460
461 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett (61)</a></li>
462
463 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern (92)</a></li>
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