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  15      <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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  22     <h3>Entries from June 2010.</h3>
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  24     <div class="entry">
  25       <div class="title">
  26         <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/LUMA__a_very_nice_LDAP_GUI.html">LUMA, a very nice LDAP GUI</a>
  27       </div>
  28       <div class="date">
  29         28th June 2010
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  31       <div class="body">
  32         <p>The last few days I have been looking into the status of the LDAP
  33 directory in Debian Edu, and in the process I started to miss a GUI
  34 tool to browse the LDAP tree.  The only one I was able to find in
  35 Debian/Squeeze and Lenny is
  36 <a href="http://luma.sourceforge.net/">LUMA</a>, which has proved to
  37 be a great tool to get a overview of the current LDAP directory
  38 populated by default in Skolelinux.  Thanks to it, I have been able to
  39 find empty and obsolete subtrees, misplaced objects and duplicate
  40 objects.  It will be installed by default in Debian/Squeeze.  If you
  41 are working with LDAP, give it a go. :)</p>
  42
  43 <p>I did notice one problem with it I have not had time to report to
  44 the BTS yet.  There is no .desktop file in the package, so the tool do
  45 not show up in the Gnome and KDE menus, but only deep down in in the
  46 Debian submenu in KDE.  I hope that can be fixed before Squeeze is
  47 released.</p>
  48
  49 <p>I have not yet been able to get it to modify the tree yet.  I would
  50 like to move objects and remove subtrees directly in the GUI, but have
  51 not found a way to do that with LUMA yet.  So in the mean time, I use
  52 <a href="http://www.lichteblau.com/ldapvi/">ldapvi</a> for that.</p>
  53
  54 <p>If you have tips on other GUI tools for LDAP that might be useful
  55 in Debian Edu, please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.</p>
  56
  57 <p>Update 2010-06-29: Ross Reedstrom tipped us about the
  58 <a href="http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gq.html">gq</a> package as a
  59 useful GUI alternative.  It seem like a good tool, but is unmaintained
  60 in Debian and got a RC bug keeping it out of Squeeze.  Unless that
  61 changes, it will not be an option for Debian Edu based on Squeeze.</p>
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  67         Tags: <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
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  74     <div class="entry">
  75       <div class="title">
  76         <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/Idea_for_a_change_to_LDAP_schemas_allowing_DNS_and_DHCP_info_to_be_combined_into_one_object.html">Idea for a change to LDAP schemas allowing DNS and DHCP info to be combined into one object</a>
  77       </div>
  78       <div class="date">
  79         24th June 2010
  80       </div>
  81       <div class="body">
  82         <p>A while back, I
  83 <a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Time_for_new__LDAP_schemas_replacing_RFC_2307_.html">complained
  84 about the fact</a> that it is not possible with the provided schemas
  85 for storing DNS and DHCP information in LDAP to combine the two sets
  86 of information into one LDAP object representing a computer.</p>
  87
  88 <p>In the mean time, I discovered that a simple fix would be to make
  89 the dhcpHost object class auxiliary, to allow it to be combined with
  90 the dNSDomain object class, and thus forming one object for one
  91 computer when storing both DHCP and DNS information in LDAP.</p>
  92
  93 <p>If I understand this correctly, it is not safe to do this change
  94 without also changing the assigned number for the object class, and I
  95 do not know enough about LDAP schema design to do that properly for
  96 Debian Edu.</p>
  97
  98 <p>Anyway, for future reference, this is how I believe we could change
  99 the
 100 <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dhc-ldap-schema-00">DHCP
 101 schema</a> to solve at least part of the problem with the LDAP schemas
 102 available today from IETF.</p>
 103
 104 <pre>
 105 --- dhcp.schema    (revision 65192)
 106 +++ dhcp.schema    (working copy)
 107 @@ -376,7 +376,7 @@
 108  objectclass ( 2.16.840.1.113719.1.203.6.6
 109         NAME 'dhcpHost'
 110         DESC 'This represents information about a particular client'
 111 -       SUP top
 112 +       SUP top AUXILIARY
 113         MUST cn
 114         MAY  (dhcpLeaseDN $ dhcpHWAddress $ dhcpOptionsDN $ dhcpStatements $ dhcpComments $ dhcpOption)
 115         X-NDS_CONTAINMENT ('dhcpService' 'dhcpSubnet' 'dhcpGroup') )
 116 </pre>
 117
 118 <p>I very much welcome clues on how to do this properly for Debian
 119 Edu/Squeeze.  We provide the DHCP schema in our debian-edu-config
 120 package, and should thus be free to rewrite it as we see fit.</p>
 121
 122 <p>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
 123 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.</p>
 124
 125       </div>
 126       <div class="tags">
 127
 128
 129         Tags: <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
 130
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 132       </div>
 133     </div>
 134     <div class="padding"></div>
 135
 136     <div class="entry">
 137       <div class="title">
 138         <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/Calling_tasksel_like_the_installer__while_still_getting_useful_output.html">Calling tasksel like the installer, while still getting useful output</a>
 139       </div>
 140       <div class="date">
 141         16th June 2010
 142       </div>
 143       <div class="body">
 144         <p>A few times I have had the need to simulate the way tasksel
 145 installs packages during the normal debian-installer run.  Until now,
 146 I have ended up letting tasksel do the work, with the annoying problem
 147 of not getting any feedback at all when something fails (like a
 148 conffile question from dpkg or a download that fails), using code like
 149 this:
 150
 151 <blockquote><pre>
 152 export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
 153 tasksel --new-install
 154 </pre></blockquote>
 155
 156 This would invoke tasksel, let its automatic task selection pick the
 157 tasks to install, and continue to install the requested tasks without
 158 any output what so ever.
 159
 160 Recently I revisited this problem while working on the automatic
 161 package upgrade testing, because tasksel would some times hang without
 162 any useful feedback, and I want to see what is going on when it
 163 happen.  Then it occured to me, I can parse the output from tasksel
 164 when asked to run in test mode, and use that aptitude command line
 165 printed by tasksel then to simulate the tasksel run.  I ended up using
 166 code like this:
 167
 168 <blockquote><pre>
 169 export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
 170 cmd="$(in_target tasksel -t --new-install | sed 's/debconf-apt-progress -- //')"
 171 $cmd
 172 </pre></blockquote>
 173
 174 <p>The content of $cmd is typically something like "<tt>aptitude -q
 175 --without-recommends -o APT::Install-Recommends=no -y install
 176 ~t^desktop$ ~t^gnome-desktop$ ~t^laptop$ ~pstandard ~prequired
 177 ~pimportant</tt>", which will install the gnome desktop task, the
 178 laptop task and all packages with priority standard , required and
 179 important, just like tasksel would have done it during
 180 installation.</p>
 181
 182 <p>A better approach is probably to extend tasksel to be able to
 183 install packages without using debconf-apt-progress, for use cases
 184 like this.</p>
 185
 186       </div>
 187       <div class="tags">
 188
 189
 190         Tags: <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
 191
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 193       </div>
 194     </div>
 195     <div class="padding"></div>
 196
 197     <div class="entry">
 198       <div class="title">
 199         <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/Vinmonopolet_bryter_loven__penlyst___og_flere_planlegger___gj_re_det_samme.html">Vinmonopolet bryter loven åpenlyst - og flere planlegger å gjøre det samme</a>
 200       </div>
 201       <div class="date">
 202         16th June 2010
 203       </div>
 204       <div class="body">
 205         <p><a href="http://www.dagbladet.no/2010/06/16/nyheter/innenriks/streik/arbeidsliv/12157858/">Dagbladet
 206 melder</a> at Vinmonopolet med bakgrunn i vekterstreiken som pågår i
 207 Norge for tiden, har bestemt seg for med vitende og vilje å bryte
 208 sentralbanklovens paragraf 14 ved å nekte folk å betale med
 209 kontanter, og at flere butikker planlegger å følge deres eksempel.
 210 Jeg synes det er hårreisende hvis de slipper unna med et slikt
 211 soleklart lovbrudd, og lurer på hva slags muligheter jeg vil ha hvis
 212 jeg blir nektet å handle med kontanter.  Jeg handler i hovedsak med
 213 kontanter selv, da jeg anser det som en borgerrett å kunne handle
 214 anonymt uten at det blir registrert.  For meg er det et angrep på mitt
 215 personvern å nekte å ta imot kontant betaling.</p>
 216
 217 <p><a href="http://www.lovdata.no/all/tl-19850524-028-003.html#14">Paragrafen
 218 i sentralbankloven</a> lyder:</p>
 219
 220 <blockquote>
 221 <p>§ 14. Tvungent betalingsmiddel</p>
 222
 223 <p>Bankens sedler og mynter er tvungent betalingsmiddel i Norge. Ingen
 224 er pliktig til i én betaling å ta imot mer enn femogtyve mynter av
 225 hver enhet.</p>
 226
 227 <p>Sterkt skadde sedler og mynter er ikke tvungent
 228 betalingsmiddel. Banken gir nærmere forskrifter om erstatning for
 229 bortkomne, brente eller skadde sedler og mynter.</p>
 230
 231 <p>Selv om en avtale inneholder klausul om betaling av en
 232 pengeforpliktelse i gullverdi, kan skyldneren frigjøre seg med tvungne
 233 betalingsmidler uten hensyn til denne klausul.</p>
 234 </blockquote>
 235
 236 <p>Det er med bakgrunn i denne lovet ikke tillatt å nekte å ta imot
 237 kontakt betaling.  Det er en lov jeg har sans for, og som jeg mener må
 238 håndheves strengt.</p>
 239
 240       </div>
 241       <div class="tags">
 242
 243
 244         Tags: <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/betalkontant">betalkontant</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern</a>.
 245
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 247       </div>
 248     </div>
 249     <div class="padding"></div>
 250
 251     <div class="entry">
 252       <div class="title">
 253         <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/Officeshots_taking_shape.html">Officeshots taking shape</a>
 254       </div>
 255       <div class="date">
 256         13th June 2010
 257       </div>
 258       <div class="body">
 259         <p>For those of us caring about document exchange and
 260 interoperability, <a href="http://www.officeshots.org/">OfficeShots</a>
 261 is a great service.  It is to ODF documents what
 262 <a href="http://browsershots.org/">BrowserShots</a> is for web
 263 pages.</p>
 264
 265 <p>A while back, I was contacted by Knut Yrvin at the part of Nokia
 266 that used to be Trolltech, who wanted to help the OfficeShots project
 267 and wondered if the University of Oslo where I work would be
 268 interested in supporting the project.  I helped him to navigate his
 269 request to the right people at work, and his request was answered with
 270 a spot in the machine room with power and network connected, and Knut
 271 arranged funding for a machine to fill the spot.  The machine is
 272 administrated by the OfficeShots people, so I do not have daily
 273 contact with its progress, and thus from time to time check back to
 274 see how the project is doing.</p>
 275
 276 <p>Today I had a look, and was happy to see that the Dell box in our
 277 machine room now is the host for several virtual machines running as
 278 OfficeShots factories, and the project is able to render ODF documents
 279 in 17 different document processing implementation on Linux and
 280 Windows.  This is great.</p>
 281
 282       </div>
 283       <div class="tags">
 284
 285
 286         Tags: <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/standard">standard</a>.
 287
 288
 289       </div>
 290     </div>
 291     <div class="padding"></div>
 292
 293     <div class="entry">
 294       <div class="title">
 295         <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__removals_by_apt_and_aptitude.html">Lenny->Squeeze upgrades, removals by apt and aptitude</a>
 296       </div>
 297       <div class="date">
 298         13th June 2010
 299       </div>
 300       <div class="body">
 301         <p>My
 302 <a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_upgrade_testing_from_Lenny_to_Squeeze.html">testing
 303 of Debian upgrades</a> from Lenny to Squeeze continues, and I've
 304 finally made the upgrade logs available from
 305 <a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/debian-upgrade-testing/">https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/debian-upgrade-testing/</a>.
 306 I am now testing dist-upgrade of Gnome and KDE in a chroot using both
 307 apt and aptitude, and found their differences interesting.  This time
 308 I will only focus on their removal plans.</p>
 309
 310 <p>After installing a Gnome desktop and the laptop task, apt-get wants
 311 to remove 72 packages when dist-upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze.  The
 312 surprising part is that it want to remove xorg and all
 313 xserver-xorg-video* drivers.  Clearly not a good choice, but I am not
 314 sure why.  When asking aptitude to do the same, it want to remove 129
 315 packages, but most of them are library packages I suspect are no
 316 longer needed.  Both of them want to remove bluetooth packages, which
 317 I do not know.  Perhaps these bluetooth packages are obsolete?</p>
 318
 319 <p>For KDE, apt-get want to remove 82 packages, among them kdebase
 320 which seem like a bad idea and xorg the same way as with Gnome. Asking
 321 aptitude for the same, it wants to remove 192 packages, none which are
 322 too surprising.</p>
 323
 324 <p>I guess the removal of xorg during upgrades should be investigated
 325 and avoided, and perhaps others as well.  Here are the complete list
 326 of planned removals.  The complete logs is available from the URL
 327 above.  Note if you want to repeat these tests, that the upgrade test
 328 for kde+apt-get hung in the tasksel setup because of dpkg asking
 329 conffile questions.  No idea why.  I worked around it by using
 330 '<tt>echo >> /proc/<em>pidofdpkg</em>/fd/0</tt>' to tell dpkg to
 331 continue.</p>
 332
 333 <p><b>apt-get gnome 72</b>
 334 <br>bluez-gnome cupsddk-drivers deskbar-applet gnome
 335   gnome-desktop-environment gnome-network-admin gtkhtml3.14
 336   iceweasel-gnome-support libavcodec51 libdatrie0 libgdl-1-0
 337   libgnomekbd2 libgnomekbdui2 libmetacity0 libslab0 libxcb-xlib0
 338   nautilus-cd-burner python-gnome2-desktop python-gnome2-extras
 339   serpentine swfdec-mozilla update-manager xorg xserver-xorg
 340   xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
 341   xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
 342   xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom
 343   xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark
 344   xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips
 345   xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-cyrix
 346   xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
 347   xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128
 348   xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-imstt
 349   xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64
 350   xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
 351   xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-nv
 352   xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
 353   xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
 354   xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3
 355   xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
 356   xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
 357   xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
 358   xserver-xorg-video-tga xserver-xorg-video-trident
 359   xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-v4l
 360   xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vga
 361   xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xulrunner-1.9
 362   xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support</p>
 363
 364 <p><b>aptitude gnome 129</b>
 365
 366 <br>bluez-gnome bluez-utils cpp-4.3 cupsddk-drivers dhcdbd
 367   djvulibre-desktop finger gnome-app-install gnome-mount
 368   gnome-network-admin gnome-spell gnome-vfs-obexftp
 369   gnome-volume-manager gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs gtkhtml3.14 libao2
 370   libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-core5 libavcodec51 libbluetooth2
 371   libcamel1.2-11 libcdio7 libcucul0 libcupsys2 libcurl3 libdatrie0
 372   libdirectfb-1.0-0 libdvdread3 libedataserver1.2-9 libeel2-2.20
 373   libeel2-data libepc-1.0-1 libepc-ui-1.0-1 libfaad0 libgail-common
 374   libgd2-noxpm libgda3-3 libgda3-common libgdl-1-0 libgdl-1-common
 375   libggz2 libggzcore9 libggzmod4 libgksu1.2-0 libgksuui1.0-1 libgmyth0
 376   libgnomecups1.0-1 libgnomekbd2 libgnomekbdui2 libgnomeprint2.2-0
 377   libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomeprintui2.2-0 libgnomeprintui2.2-common
 378   libgnomevfs2-bin libgpod3 libgraphviz4 libgtkhtml2-0
 379   libgtksourceview-common libgtksourceview1.0-0 libgucharmap6
 380   libhesiod0 libicu38 libiw29 libkpathsea4 libltdl3 libmagick++10
 381   libmagick10 libmalaga7 libmetacity0 libmtp7 libmysqlclient15off
 382   libnautilus-burn4 libneon27 libnm-glib0 libnm-util0 libopal-2.2
 383   libosp5 libparted1.8-10 libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler3 libpt-1.10.10
 384   libpt-1.10.10-plugins-alsa libpt-1.10.10-plugins-v4l libraw1394-8
 385   libsensors3 libslab0 libsmbios2 libsoup2.2-8 libssh2-1
 386   libsuitesparse-3.1.0 libswfdec-0.6-90 libtalloc1 libtotem-plparser10
 387   libtrackerclient0 libxalan2-java libxalan2-java-gcj libxcb-xlib0
 388   libxerces2-java libxerces2-java-gcj libxklavier12 libxtrap6
 389   libxxf86misc1 libzephyr3 mysql-common nautilus-cd-burner
 390   openoffice.org-writer2latex openssl-blacklist p7zip
 391   python-4suite-xml python-eggtrayicon python-gnome2-desktop
 392   python-gnome2-extras python-gtkhtml2 python-gtkmozembed
 393   python-numeric python-sexy serpentine svgalibg1 swfdec-gnome
 394   swfdec-mozilla totem-gstreamer update-manager wodim
 395   xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-imstt
 396   xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-v4l xserver-xorg-video-vga
 397   zip</p>
 398
 399 <p><b>apt-get kde 82</b>
 400
 401 <br>cupsddk-drivers karm kaudiocreator kcoloredit kcontrol kde kde-core
 402   kdeaddons kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-bin-kde3
 403   kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kdeutils khelpcenter kicker
 404   kicker-applets knewsticker kolourpaint konq-plugins konqueror korn
 405   kpersonalizer kscreensaver ksplash libavcodec51 libdatrie0 libkiten1
 406   libxcb-xlib0 quanta superkaramba texlive-base-bin xorg xserver-xorg
 407   xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
 408   xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
 409   xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom
 410   xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark
 411   xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips
 412   xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-cyrix
 413   xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
 414   xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128
 415   xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-imstt
 416   xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64
 417   xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
 418   xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-nv
 419   xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
 420   xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
 421   xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3
 422   xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
 423   xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
 424   xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
 425   xserver-xorg-video-tga xserver-xorg-video-trident
 426   xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-v4l
 427   xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vga
 428   xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xulrunner-1.9</p>
 429
 430 <p><b>aptitude kde 192</b>
 431 <br>bluez-utils cpp-4.3 cupsddk-drivers cvs dcoprss dhcdbd
 432   djvulibre-desktop dosfstools eyesapplet fifteenapplet finger gettext
 433   ghostscript-x imlib-base imlib11 indi kandy karm kasteroids
 434   kaudiocreator kbackgammon kbstate kcoloredit kcontrol kcron kdat
 435   kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-theme-window
 436   kdebase-bin-kde3 kdebase-kio-plugins kdeedu-data
 437   kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelirc kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data
 438   kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdenetwork-kfile-plugins
 439   kdepim-kfile-plugins kdepim-kio-plugins kdeprint kdesktop kdessh
 440   kdict kdnssd kdvi kedit keduca kenolaba kfax kfaxview kfouleggs
 441   kghostview khelpcenter khexedit kiconedit kitchensync klatin
 442   klickety kmailcvt kmenuedit kmid kmilo kmoon kmrml kodo kolourpaint
 443   kooka korn kpager kpdf kpercentage kpf kpilot kpoker kpovmodeler
 444   krec kregexpeditor ksayit ksim ksirc ksirtet ksmiletris ksmserver
 445   ksnake ksokoban ksplash ksvg ksysv ktip ktnef kuickshow kverbos
 446   kview kviewshell kvoctrain kwifimanager kwin kwin4 kworldclock
 447   kxsldbg libakode2 libao2 libarts1-akode libarts1-audiofile
 448   libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libavahi-compat-libdnssd1
 449   libavahi-core5 libavc1394-0 libavcodec51 libbluetooth2
 450   libboost-python1.34.1 libcucul0 libcurl3 libcvsservice0 libdatrie0
 451   libdirectfb-1.0-0 libdjvulibre21 libdvdread3 libfaad0 libfreebob0
 452   libgail-common libgd2-noxpm libgraphviz4 libgsmme1c2a libgtkhtml2-0
 453   libicu38 libiec61883-0 libindex0 libiw29 libk3b3 libkcal2b libkcddb1
 454   libkdeedu3 libkdepim1a libkgantt0 libkiten1 libkleopatra1 libkmime2
 455   libkpathsea4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libkscan1
 456   libksieve0 libktnef1 liblockdev1 libltdl3 libmagick10 libmimelib1c2a
 457   libmozjs1d libmpcdec3 libneon27 libnm-util0 libopensync0 libpisock9
 458   libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler3 libraw1394-8 libsmbios2
 459   libssh2-1 libsuitesparse-3.1.0 libtalloc1 libtiff-tools
 460   libxalan2-java libxalan2-java-gcj libxcb-xlib0 libxerces2-java
 461   libxerces2-java-gcj libxtrap6 mpeglib networkstatus
 462   openoffice.org-writer2latex pmount poster psutils quanta quanta-data
 463   superkaramba svgalibg1 tex-common texlive-base texlive-base-bin
 464   texlive-common texlive-doc-base texlive-fonts-recommended
 465   xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-imstt
 466   xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-v4l xserver-xorg-video-vga
 467   xulrunner-1.9</p>
 468
 469
 470       </div>
 471       <div class="tags">
 472
 473
 474         Tags: <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
 475
 476
 477       </div>
 478     </div>
 479     <div class="padding"></div>
 480
 481     <div class="entry">
 482       <div class="title">
 483         <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/_pne_tr_dl_snett_er_et_samfunnsgode.html">Åpne trådløsnett er et samfunnsgode</a>
 484       </div>
 485       <div class="date">
 486         12th June 2010
 487       </div>
 488       <div class="body">
 489         <p>Veldig glad for å oppdage via
 490 <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/06/11/1841256/Finland-To-Legalize-Use-of-Unsecured-Wi-Fi">Slashdot</a>
 491 at folk i Finland har forstått at åpne trådløsnett er et samfunnsgode.
 492 Jeg ser på åpne trådløsnett som et fellesgode på linje med retten til
 493 ferdsel i utmark og retten til å bevege seg i strandsonen.  Jeg har
 494 glede av åpne trådløsnett når jeg finner dem, og deler gladelig nett
 495 med andre så lenge de ikke forstyrrer min bruk av eget nett.
 496 Nettkapasiteten er sjelden en begrensning ved normal browsing og enkel
 497 SSH-innlogging (som er min vanligste nettbruk), og nett kan brukes til
 498 så mye positivt og nyttig (som nyhetslesing, sjekke været, kontakte
 499 slekt og venner, holde seg oppdatert om politiske saker, kontakte
 500 organisasjoner og politikere, etc), at det for meg er helt urimelig å
 501 blokkere dette for alle som ikke gjør en flue fortred.  De som mener
 502 at potensialet for misbruk er grunn nok til å hindre all den positive
 503 og lovlydige bruken av et åpent trådløsnett har jeg dermed ingen
 504 forståelse for.  En kan ikke la eksistensen av forbrytere styre hvordan
 505 samfunnet skal organiseres.  Da får en et kontrollsamfunn de færreste
 506 ønsker å leve i, og det at vi har et samfunn i Norge der tilliten til
 507 hverandre er høy gjør at samfunnet fungerer ganske godt.  Det bør vi
 508 anstrenge oss for å beholde.</p>
 509
 510       </div>
 511       <div class="tags">
 512
 513
 514         Tags: <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/fildeling">fildeling</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet</a>.
 515
 516
 517       </div>
 518     </div>
 519     <div class="padding"></div>
 520
 521     <div class="entry">
 522       <div class="title">
 523         <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/Automatic_upgrade_testing_from_Lenny_to_Squeeze.html">Automatic upgrade testing from Lenny to Squeeze</a>
 524       </div>
 525       <div class="date">
 526         11th June 2010
 527       </div>
 528       <div class="body">
 529         <p>The last few days I have done some upgrade testing in Debian, to
 530 see if the upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze will go smoothly.  A few bugs
 531 have been discovered and reported in the process
 532 (<a href="http://bugs.debian.org/585410">#585410</a> in nagios3-cgi,
 533 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/584879">#584879</a> already fixed in
 534 enscript and <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/584861">#584861</a> in
 535 kdebase-workspace-data), and to get a more regular testing going on, I
 536 am working on a script to automate the test.</p>
 537
 538 <p>The idea is to create a Lenny chroot and use tasksel to install a
 539 Gnome or KDE desktop installation inside the chroot before upgrading
 540 it.  To ensure no services are started in the chroot, a policy-rc.d
 541 script is inserted.  To make sure tasksel believe it is to install a
 542 desktop on a laptop, the tasksel tests are replaced in the chroot
 543 (only acceptable because this is a throw-away chroot).</p>
 544
 545 <p>A naive upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze using aptitude dist-upgrade
 546 currently always fail because udev refuses to upgrade with the kernel
 547 in Lenny, so to avoid that problem the file /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade
 548 is created.  The bug report
 549 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/566000">#566000</a> make me suspect
 550 this problem do not trigger in a chroot, but I touch the file anyway
 551 to make sure the upgrade go well.  Testing on virtual and real
 552 hardware have failed me because of udev so far, and creating this file
 553 do the trick in such settings anyway.  This is a
 554 <a href="http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/failed-dist-upgrade-due-to-udev-config_sysfs_deprecated-nonsense-804130/">known
 555 issue</a> and the current udev behaviour is intended by the udev
 556 maintainer because he lack the resources to rewrite udev to keep
 557 working with old kernels or something like that.  I really wish the
 558 udev upstream would keep udev backwards compatible, to avoid such
 559 upgrade problem, but given that they fail to do so, I guess
 560 documenting the way out of this mess is the best option we got for
 561 Debian Squeeze.</p>
 562
 563 <p>Anyway, back to the task at hand, testing upgrades.  This test
 564 script, which I call <tt>upgrade-test</tt> for now, is doing the
 565 trick:</p>
 566
 567 <blockquote><pre>
 568 #!/bin/sh
 569 set -ex
 570
 571 if [ "$1" ] ; then
 572     desktop=$1
 573 else
 574     desktop=gnome
 575 fi
 576
 577 from=lenny
 578 to=squeeze
 579
 580 exec &lt; /dev/null
 581 unset LANG
 582 mirror=http://ftp.skolelinux.org/debian
 583 tmpdir=chroot-$from-upgrade-$to-$desktop
 584 fuser -mv .
 585 debootstrap $from $tmpdir $mirror
 586 chroot $tmpdir aptitude update
 587 cat > $tmpdir/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d &lt;&lt;EOF
 588 #!/bin/sh
 589 exit 101
 590 EOF
 591 chmod a+rx $tmpdir/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d
 592 exit_cleanup() {
 593     umount $tmpdir/proc
 594 }
 595 mount -t proc proc $tmpdir/proc
 596 # Make sure proc is unmounted also on failure
 597 trap exit_cleanup EXIT INT
 598
 599 chroot $tmpdir aptitude -y install debconf-utils
 600
 601 # Make sure tasksel autoselection trigger.  It need the test scripts
 602 # to return the correct answers.
 603 echo tasksel tasksel/desktop multiselect $desktop | \
 604     chroot $tmpdir debconf-set-selections
 605
 606 # Include the desktop and laptop task
 607 for test in desktop laptop ; do
 608     echo > $tmpdir/usr/lib/tasksel/tests/$test &lt;&lt;EOF
 609 #!/bin/sh
 610 exit 2
 611 EOF
 612     chmod a+rx $tmpdir/usr/lib/tasksel/tests/$test
 613 done
 614
 615 DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
 616 DEBIAN_PRIORITY=critical
 617 export DEBIAN_FRONTEND DEBIAN_PRIORITY
 618 chroot $tmpdir tasksel --new-install
 619
 620 echo deb $mirror $to main > $tmpdir/etc/apt/sources.list
 621 chroot $tmpdir aptitude update
 622 touch $tmpdir/etc/udev/kernel-upgrade
 623 chroot $tmpdir aptitude -y dist-upgrade
 624 fuser -mv
 625 </pre></blockquote>
 626
 627 <p>I suspect it would be useful to test upgrades with both apt-get and
 628 with aptitude, but I have not had time to look at how they behave
 629 differently so far.  I hope to get a cron job running to do the test
 630 regularly and post the result on the web.  The Gnome upgrade currently
 631 work, while the KDE upgrade fail because of the bug in
 632 kdebase-workspace-data</p>
 633
 634 <p>I am not quite sure what kind of extract from the huge upgrade logs
 635 (KDE 167 KiB, Gnome 516 KiB) it make sense to include in this blog
 636 post, so I will refrain from trying.  I can report that for Gnome,
 637 aptitude report 760 packages upgraded, 448 newly installed, 129 to
 638 remove and 1 not upgraded and 1024MB need to be downloaded while for
 639 KDE the same numbers are 702 packages upgraded, 507 newly installed,
 640 193 to remove and 0 not upgraded and 1117MB need to be downloaded</p>
 641
 642 <p>I am very happy to notice that the Gnome desktop + laptop upgrade
 643 is able to migrate to dependency based boot sequencing and parallel
 644 booting without a hitch.  Was unsure if there were still bugs with
 645 packages failing to clean up their obsolete init.d script during
 646 upgrades, and no such problem seem to affect the Gnome desktop+laptop
 647 packages.</p>
 648
 649       </div>
 650       <div class="tags">
 651
 652
 653         Tags: <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
 654
 655
 656       </div>
 657     </div>
 658     <div class="padding"></div>
 659
 660     <div class="entry">
 661       <div class="title">
 662         <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/Skolelinux_er_laget_for_sentraldrifting__naturligvis.html">Skolelinux er laget for sentraldrifting, naturligvis</a>
 663       </div>
 664       <div class="date">
 665          9th June 2010
 666       </div>
 667       <div class="body">
 668         <p>Det er merkelig hvordan myter om Skolelinux overlever.  En slik
 669 myte er at Skolelinux ikke kan sentraldriftes og ha sentralt plasserte
 670 tjenermaskiner.  I siste Computerworld Norge er
 671 <a href="http://www.idg.no/computerworld/article169432.ece">IT-sjef
 672 Viggo Billdal i Steinkjer intervjuet</a>, og forteller uten
 673 blygsel:</p>
 674
 675 <blockquote><p>Vi hadde Skolelinux, men det har vi sluttet med. Vi testet
 676 om det lønte seg med Microsoft eller en åpen plattform. Vi fant ut at
 677 Microsoft egentlig var totalt sett bedre egnet. Det var store
 678 driftskostnader med Skolelinux, blant annet på grunn av
 679 desentraliserte servere. Det var komplisert, så vi gikk vekk fra det
 680 og bruker nå bare Windows.</p></blockquote>
 681
 682 <p>En <a
 683 href="https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/bruker/2010-June/009101.html">rask
 684 sjekk</a> mot den norske brukerlista i Skolelinuxprosjektet forteller
 685 at Steinkjers forsøk foregikk fram til 2004/2005, og at Røysing skole
 686 i Steinkjer skal ha vært svært fornøyd med Skolelinux men at kommunen
 687 overkjørte skolen og krevde at de gikk over til Windows.  Et søk på
 688 nettet sendte meg til
 689 <a href="http://www.dn.no/multimedia/archive/00090/Dagens_it_nr__18_90826a.pdf">Dagens
 690 IT nr. 18 2005</a> hvor en kan lese på side 18:</p>
 691
 692 <blockquote><p>Inge Tømmerås ved Røysing skole i Steinkjer kjører ennå
 693 Microsoft, men forteller at kompetanseutfordringen med Skolelinux ikke
 694 var så stor.   Jeg syntes Skolelinux var utrolig lett å drifte uten
 695 forkunnskaper. Men man må jo selvsagt ha tilgang på ekstern kompetanse
 696 til installasjoner og maskinvarefeil, sier Tømmerås.</p></blockquote>
 697
 698 <p>Som systemarkitekten bak Skolelinux, kan jeg bare riste på hodet
 699 over påstanden om at Skolelinux krever desentraliserte tjenere.
 700 Skolelinux-arkitekturen er laget for sentralisert drift og plassering
 701 av tjenerne lokalt eller sentralt alt etter behov og nettkapasitet.
 702 Den er modellert på nettverks- og tjenerløsningen som brukes på
 703 Universitetet i Tromsø og Oslo, der jeg jobber med utvikling av
 704 driftstjenester.  Dette er det heldigvis noen som har fått med seg, og
 705 jeg er glad for å kunne sitere fra en kommentar på den overnevnte
 706 artikkelen.  Min venn og gamle kollega Sturle Sunde forteller der:
 707
 708 <blockquote>
 709 <p>I Flora kommune køyrer vi Skulelinux på skular med alt frå 15 til
 710 meir enn 500 elevar. Dei store skulane har eigen tenar, for det er
 711 mest praktisk. Eg, som er driftsansvarleg for heile nettet, ser
 712 sjeldan dei tenarane fysisk, men at dei står der gjer skulane mindre
 713 avhengige av eksterne linjer som er trege eller dyre. Dei minste
 714 skulane har ikkje eigen tenar. Å bruke sentral tenar er heller ikkje
 715 noko problem. Småskulane klarar seg fint med 1 mbit-linje til ein
 716 sentral tenar eller tenaren på ein større skule.</p>
 717
 718 <p>Det beste med Skulelinux er halvtjukke klientar. Dei treng ikkje
 719 harddisk og brukar minimalt med ressursar på tenaren fordi dei køyrer
 720 programma lokalt. Eit klasserom med 30 sju-åtte år gamle maskiner har
 721 mykje meir CPU og RAM totalt enn nokon moderne tenar til under
 722 millionen. Det trengst to kommandoar på den sentrale tenaren for å
 723 oppdatere alle klientane, både tynne og halvtjukke. Vi har ingen
 724 problem med diskar som ryk heller, som var eit problem før fordi
 725 elevane sat og sparka i maskinene. Og dei krev lite bandbreidde i
 726 nettet, so det er fullt mogleg å køyre slike på småskular med trege
 727 linjer mot tenaren på ein større skule.</p>
 728
 729 <p>Flora kommune har nesten 800 Linux-maskiner i sitt skulenett, og
 730 ein person som tek seg av drift av heile nettet, inkludert tenarar,
 731 klientar, operativsystem, programvare, heimekontorløysing og
 732 administrasjon av brukarar.</p>
 733
 734 <p>No skal det seiast at vi ikkje køyrer rein Skulelinux ut av
 735 boksen. Vi har gjort ein del tilpassingar mot noko Novell-greier som
 736 var der frå før, og som har komplisert installasjonen vår. Etter at
 737 oppsettet var gjort har løysinga vore stabil og kravd minimalt med
 738 arbeid.</p>
 739 </blockquote>
 740
 741 <p>Jeg vet at Narvik, Harstad og Oslo er kommuner der Skolelinux
 742 sentraldriftes med sentrale tjenere.  Det forteller meg at Steinkjers
 743 IT-sjef neppe bør skylde på Skolelinux-løsningen for sine 5 år gamle
 744 minner.</p>
 745
 746       </div>
 747       <div class="tags">
 748
 749
 750         Tags: <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
 751
 752
 753       </div>
 754     </div>
 755     <div class="padding"></div>
 756
 757     <div class="entry">
 758       <div class="title">
 759         <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/Upstart_or_sysvinit___as_init_d_scripts_see_it.html">Upstart or sysvinit - as init.d scripts see it</a>
 760       </div>
 761       <div class="date">
 762          6th June 2010
 763       </div>
 764       <div class="body">
 765         <p>If Debian is to migrate to upstart on Linux, I expect some init.d
 766 scripts to migrate (some of) their operations to upstart job while
 767 keeping the init.d for hurd and kfreebsd.  The packages with such
 768 needs will need a way to get their init.d scripts to behave
 769 differently when used with sysvinit and with upstart.  Because of
 770 this, I had a look at the environment variables set when a init.d
 771 script is running under upstart, and when it is not.</p>
 772
 773 <p>With upstart, I notice these environment variables are set when a
 774 script is started from rcS.d/ (ignoring some irrelevant ones like
 775 COLUMNS):</p>
 776
 777 <blockquote><pre>
 778 DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL=2
 779 previous=N
 780 PREVLEVEL=
 781 RUNLEVEL=
 782 runlevel=S
 783 UPSTART_EVENTS=startup
 784 UPSTART_INSTANCE=
 785 UPSTART_JOB=rc-sysinit
 786 </pre></blockquote>
 787
 788 <p>With sysvinit, these environment variables are set for the same
 789 script.</p>
 790
 791 <blockquote><pre>
 792 INIT_VERSION=sysvinit-2.88
 793 previous=N
 794 PREVLEVEL=N
 795 RUNLEVEL=S
 796 runlevel=S
 797 </pre></blockquote>
 798
 799 <p>The RUNLEVEL and PREVLEVEL environment variables passed on from
 800 sysvinit are not set by upstart.  Not sure if it is intentional or not
 801 to not be compatible with sysvinit in this regard.</p>
 802
 803 <p>For scripts needing to behave differently when upstart is used,
 804 looking for the UPSTART_JOB environment variable seem to be a good
 805 choice.</p>
 806
 807       </div>
 808       <div class="tags">
 809
 810
 811         Tags: <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
 812
 813
 814       </div>
 815     </div>
 816     <div class="padding"></div>
 817
 818     <div class="entry">
 819       <div class="title">
 820         <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/A_manual_for_standards_wars___.html">A manual for standards wars...</a>
 821       </div>
 822       <div class="date">
 823          6th June 2010
 824       </div>
 825       <div class="body">
 826         <p>Via the
 827 <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/robweir/antic-atom/~3/QzU4RgoAGMg/weekly-links-10.html">blog
 828 of Rob Weir</a> I came across the very interesting essay named
 829 <a href="http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/shapiro/wars.pdf">The Art of
 830 Standards Wars</a> (PDF 25 pages).  I recommend it for everyone
 831 following the standards wars of today.</p>
 832
 833       </div>
 834       <div class="tags">
 835
 836
 837         Tags: <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/standard">standard</a>.
 838
 839
 840       </div>
 841     </div>
 842     <div class="padding"></div>
 843
 844     <div class="entry">
 845       <div class="title">
 846         <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/Sitesummary_tip__Listing_computer_hardware_models_used_at_site.html">Sitesummary tip: Listing computer hardware models used at site</a>
 847       </div>
 848       <div class="date">
 849          3rd June 2010
 850       </div>
 851       <div class="body">
 852         <p>When using sitesummary at a site to track machines, it is possible
 853 to get a list of the machine types in use thanks to the DMI
 854 information extracted from each machine.  The script to do so is
 855 included in the sitesummary package, and here is example output from
 856 the Skolelinux build servers:</p>
 857
 858 <blockquote><pre>
 859 maintainer:~# /usr/lib/sitesummary/hardware-model-summary
 860   vendor                    count
 861   Dell Computer Corporation     1
 862     PowerEdge 1750              1
 863   IBM                           1
 864     eserver xSeries 345 -[8670M1X]-     1
 865   Intel                         2
 866   [no-dmi-info]                 3
 867 maintainer:~#
 868 </pre></blockquote>
 869
 870 <p>The quality of the report depend on the quality of the DMI tables
 871 provided in each machine.  Here there are Intel machines without model
 872 information listed with Intel as vendor and no model, and virtual Xen
 873 machines listed as [no-dmi-info].  One can add -l as a command line
 874 option to list the individual machines.</p>
 875
 876 <p>A larger list is
 877 <a href="http://narvikskolen.no/sitesummary/">available from the the
 878 city of Narvik</a>, which uses Skolelinux on all their shools and also
 879 provide the basic sitesummary report publicly.  In their report there
 880 are ~1400 machines. I know they use both Ubuntu and Skolelinux on
 881 their machines, and as sitesummary is available in both distributions,
 882 it is trivial to get all of them to report to the same central
 883 collector.</p>
 884
 885       </div>
 886       <div class="tags">
 887
 888
 889         Tags: <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary</a>.
 890
 891
 892       </div>
 893     </div>
 894     <div class="padding"></div>
 895
 896     <div class="entry">
 897       <div class="title">
 898         <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/Togsatsing_p__norsk__mot_sykkel.html">Togsatsing på norsk, mot sykkel</a>
 899       </div>
 900       <div class="date">
 901          2nd June 2010
 902       </div>
 903       <div class="body">
 904         <p>Det står dårlig til med toget når en finner på å la det
 905 <a href="http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article3677060.ece">kappkjøre
 906 med sykkel</a>...  Jeg tror det trengs strukturendringer for å få
 907 fikset på togproblemene i Norge.</p>
 908
 909 <p>Mon tro hva toglinje mellom Narvik og Tromsø ville hatt slags
 910 effekt på området der?</p>
 911
 912       </div>
 913       <div class="tags">
 914
 915
 916         Tags: <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>.
 917
 918
 919       </div>
 920     </div>
 921     <div class="padding"></div>
 922
 923     <div class="entry">
 924       <div class="title">
 925         <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/KDM_fail_at_boot_with_NVidia_cards___and_no_one_try_to_fix_it_.html">KDM fail at boot with NVidia cards - and no one try to fix it?</a>
 926       </div>
 927       <div class="date">
 928          1st June 2010
 929       </div>
 930       <div class="body">
 931         <p>It is strange to watch how a bug in Debian causing KDM to fail to
 932 start at boot when an NVidia video card is used is handled.  The
 933 problem seem to be that the nvidia X.org driver uses a long time to
 934 initialize, and this duration is longer than kdm is configured to
 935 wait.</p>
 936
 937 <p>I came across two bugs related to this issue,
 938 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/583312">#583312</a> initially filed
 939 against initscripts and passed on to nvidia-glx when it became obvious
 940 that the nvidia drivers were involved, and
 941 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/524751">#524751</a> initially filed against
 942 kdm and passed on to src:nvidia-graphics-drivers for unknown reasons.</p>
 943
 944 <p>To me, it seem that no-one is interested in actually solving the
 945 problem nvidia video card owners experience and make sure the Debian
 946 distribution work out of the box for these users.  The nvidia driver
 947 maintainers expect kdm to be set up to wait longer, while kdm expect
 948 the nvidia driver maintainers to fix the driver to start faster, and
 949 while they wait for each other I guess the users end up switching to a
 950 distribution that work for them.  I have no idea what the solution is,
 951 but I am pretty sure that waiting for each other is not it.</p>
 952
 953 <p>I wonder why we end up handling bugs this way.</p>
 954
 955       </div>
 956       <div class="tags">
 957
 958
 959         Tags: <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
 960
 961
 962       </div>
 963     </div>
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 968
 969
 970
 971 <h2>Archive</h2>
 972 <ul>
 973
 974 <li>2024
 975 <ul>
 976
 977 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2024/01/">January (1)</a></li>
 978
 979 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2024/02/">February (1)</a></li>
 980
 981 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2024/03/">March (2)</a></li>
 982
 983 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2024/04/">April (3)</a></li>
 984
 985 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2024/05/">May (1)</a></li>
 986
 987 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2024/06/">June (1)</a></li>
 988
 989 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2024/07/">July (2)</a></li>
 990
 991 </ul></li>
 992
 993 <li>2023
 994 <ul>
 995
 996 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2023/01/">January (3)</a></li>
 997
 998 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2023/02/">February (1)</a></li>
 999
1000 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2023/04/">April (2)</a></li>
1001
1002 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2023/05/">May (3)</a></li>
1003
1004 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2023/06/">June (1)</a></li>
1005
1006 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2023/08/">August (1)</a></li>
1007
1008 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2023/09/">September (1)</a></li>
1009
1010 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2023/10/">October (1)</a></li>
1011
1012 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2023/11/">November (4)</a></li>
1013
1014 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2023/12/">December (1)</a></li>
1015
1016 </ul></li>
1017
1018 <li>2022
1019 <ul>
1020
1021 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2022/02/">February (1)</a></li>
1022
1023 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2022/03/">March (3)</a></li>
1024
1025 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2022/04/">April (2)</a></li>
1026
1027 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2022/06/">June (2)</a></li>
1028
1029 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2022/07/">July (1)</a></li>
1030
1031 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2022/09/">September (1)</a></li>
1032
1033 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2022/10/">October (1)</a></li>
1034
1035 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2022/12/">December (1)</a></li>
1036
1037 </ul></li>
1038
1039 <li>2021
1040 <ul>
1041
1042 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2021/01/">January (2)</a></li>
1043
1044 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2021/02/">February (1)</a></li>
1045
1046 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2021/05/">May (1)</a></li>
1047
1048 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2021/06/">June (1)</a></li>
1049
1050 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2021/07/">July (3)</a></li>
1051
1052 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2021/08/">August (1)</a></li>
1053
1054 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2021/09/">September (1)</a></li>
1055
1056 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2021/10/">October (1)</a></li>
1057
1058 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2021/12/">December (1)</a></li>
1059
1060 </ul></li>
1061
1062 <li>2020
1063 <ul>
1064
1065 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2020/02/">February (2)</a></li>
1066
1067 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2020/03/">March (2)</a></li>
1068
1069 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2020/04/">April (2)</a></li>
1070
1071 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2020/05/">May (3)</a></li>
1072
1073 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2020/06/">June (2)</a></li>
1074
1075 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2020/07/">July (1)</a></li>
1076
1077 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2020/09/">September (1)</a></li>
1078
1079 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2020/10/">October (1)</a></li>
1080
1081 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2020/11/">November (1)</a></li>
1082
1083 </ul></li>
1084
1085 <li>2019
1086 <ul>
1087
1088 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2019/01/">January (4)</a></li>
1089
1090 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2019/02/">February (3)</a></li>
1091
1092 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2019/03/">March (3)</a></li>
1093
1094 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2019/05/">May (2)</a></li>
1095
1096 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2019/06/">June (5)</a></li>
1097
1098 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2019/07/">July (2)</a></li>
1099
1100 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2019/08/">August (1)</a></li>
1101
1102 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2019/09/">September (1)</a></li>
1103
1104 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2019/11/">November (1)</a></li>
1105
1106 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2019/12/">December (4)</a></li>
1107
1108 </ul></li>
1109
1110 <li>2018
1111 <ul>
1112
1113 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2018/01/">January (1)</a></li>
1114
1115 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2018/02/">February (5)</a></li>
1116
1117 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2018/03/">March (5)</a></li>
1118
1119 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2018/04/">April (3)</a></li>
1120
1121 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2018/06/">June (2)</a></li>
1122
1123 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2018/07/">July (5)</a></li>
1124
1125 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2018/08/">August (3)</a></li>
1126
1127 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2018/09/">September (3)</a></li>
1128
1129 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2018/10/">October (5)</a></li>
1130
1131 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2018/11/">November (2)</a></li>
1132
1133 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2018/12/">December (4)</a></li>
1134
1135 </ul></li>
1136
1137 <li>2017
1138 <ul>
1139
1140 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2017/01/">January (4)</a></li>
1141
1142 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2017/02/">February (3)</a></li>
1143
1144 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2017/03/">March (5)</a></li>
1145
1146 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2017/04/">April (2)</a></li>
1147
1148 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2017/06/">June (5)</a></li>
1149
1150 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2017/07/">July (1)</a></li>
1151
1152 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2017/08/">August (1)</a></li>
1153
1154 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2017/09/">September (3)</a></li>
1155
1156 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2017/10/">October (5)</a></li>
1157
1158 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2017/11/">November (3)</a></li>
1159
1160 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2017/12/">December (4)</a></li>
1161
1162 </ul></li>
1163
1164 <li>2016
1165 <ul>
1166
1167 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2016/01/">January (3)</a></li>
1168
1169 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2016/02/">February (2)</a></li>
1170
1171 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2016/03/">March (3)</a></li>
1172
1173 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2016/04/">April (8)</a></li>
1174
1175 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2016/05/">May (8)</a></li>
1176
1177 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2016/06/">June (2)</a></li>
1178
1179 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2016/07/">July (2)</a></li>
1180
1181 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2016/08/">August (5)</a></li>
1182
1183 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2016/09/">September (2)</a></li>
1184
1185 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2016/10/">October (3)</a></li>
1186
1187 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2016/11/">November (8)</a></li>
1188
1189 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2016/12/">December (5)</a></li>
1190
1191 </ul></li>
1192
1193 <li>2015
1194 <ul>
1195
1196 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2015/01/">January (7)</a></li>
1197
1198 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2015/02/">February (6)</a></li>
1199
1200 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2015/03/">March (1)</a></li>
1201
1202 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2015/04/">April (4)</a></li>
1203
1204 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2015/05/">May (3)</a></li>
1205
1206 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2015/06/">June (4)</a></li>
1207
1208 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2015/07/">July (6)</a></li>
1209
1210 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2015/08/">August (2)</a></li>
1211
1212 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2015/09/">September (2)</a></li>
1213
1214 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2015/10/">October (9)</a></li>
1215
1216 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2015/11/">November (6)</a></li>
1217
1218 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2015/12/">December (3)</a></li>
1219
1220 </ul></li>
1221
1222 <li>2014
1223 <ul>
1224
1225 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2014/01/">January (2)</a></li>
1226
1227 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2014/02/">February (3)</a></li>
1228
1229 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2014/03/">March (8)</a></li>
1230
1231 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2014/04/">April (7)</a></li>
1232
1233 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2014/05/">May (1)</a></li>
1234
1235 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2014/06/">June (2)</a></li>
1236
1237 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2014/07/">July (2)</a></li>
1238
1239 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2014/08/">August (2)</a></li>
1240
1241 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2014/09/">September (5)</a></li>
1242
1243 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2014/10/">October (6)</a></li>
1244
1245 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2014/11/">November (3)</a></li>
1246
1247 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2014/12/">December (5)</a></li>
1248
1249 </ul></li>
1250
1251 <li>2013
1252 <ul>
1253
1254 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/01/">January (11)</a></li>
1255
1256 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/02/">February (9)</a></li>
1257
1258 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/03/">March (9)</a></li>
1259
1260 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/04/">April (6)</a></li>
1261
1262 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/05/">May (9)</a></li>
1263
1264 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/06/">June (10)</a></li>
1265
1266 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/07/">July (7)</a></li>
1267
1268 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/08/">August (3)</a></li>
1269
1270 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/09/">September (5)</a></li>
1271
1272 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/10/">October (7)</a></li>
1273
1274 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/11/">November (9)</a></li>
1275
1276 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/12/">December (3)</a></li>
1277
1278 </ul></li>
1279
1280 <li>2012
1281 <ul>
1282
1283 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/01/">January (7)</a></li>
1284
1285 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/02/">February (10)</a></li>
1286
1287 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/03/">March (17)</a></li>
1288
1289 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/04/">April (12)</a></li>
1290
1291 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/05/">May (12)</a></li>
1292
1293 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/06/">June (20)</a></li>
1294
1295 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/07/">July (17)</a></li>
1296
1297 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/08/">August (6)</a></li>
1298
1299 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/09/">September (9)</a></li>
1300
1301 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/10/">October (17)</a></li>
1302
1303 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/11/">November (10)</a></li>
1304
1305 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/12/">December (7)</a></li>
1306
1307 </ul></li>
1308
1309 <li>2011
1310 <ul>
1311
1312 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/01/">January (16)</a></li>
1313
1314 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/02/">February (6)</a></li>
1315
1316 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/03/">March (6)</a></li>
1317
1318 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/04/">April (7)</a></li>
1319
1320 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/05/">May (3)</a></li>
1321
1322 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/06/">June (2)</a></li>
1323
1324 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/07/">July (7)</a></li>
1325
1326 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/08/">August (6)</a></li>
1327
1328 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/09/">September (4)</a></li>
1329
1330 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/10/">October (2)</a></li>
1331
1332 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/11/">November (3)</a></li>
1333
1334 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/12/">December (1)</a></li>
1335
1336 </ul></li>
1337
1338 <li>2010
1339 <ul>
1340
1341 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/01/">January (2)</a></li>
1342
1343 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/02/">February (1)</a></li>
1344
1345 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/03/">March (3)</a></li>
1346
1347 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/04/">April (3)</a></li>
1348
1349 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/05/">May (9)</a></li>
1350
1351 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/06/">June (14)</a></li>
1352
1353 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/07/">July (12)</a></li>
1354
1355 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/08/">August (13)</a></li>
1356
1357 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/09/">September (7)</a></li>
1358
1359 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/10/">October (9)</a></li>
1360
1361 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/11/">November (13)</a></li>
1362
1363 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/12/">December (12)</a></li>
1364
1365 </ul></li>
1366
1367 <li>2009
1368 <ul>
1369
1370 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/01/">January (8)</a></li>
1371
1372 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/02/">February (8)</a></li>
1373
1374 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/03/">March (12)</a></li>
1375
1376 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/04/">April (10)</a></li>
1377
1378 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/05/">May (9)</a></li>
1379
1380 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/06/">June (3)</a></li>
1381
1382 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/07/">July (4)</a></li>
1383
1384 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/08/">August (3)</a></li>
1385
1386 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/09/">September (1)</a></li>
1387
1388 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/10/">October (2)</a></li>
1389
1390 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/11/">November (3)</a></li>
1391
1392 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/12/">December (3)</a></li>
1393
1394 </ul></li>
1395
1396 <li>2008
1397 <ul>
1398
1399 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2008/11/">November (5)</a></li>
1400
1401 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2008/12/">December (7)</a></li>
1402
1403 </ul></li>
1404
1405 </ul>
1406
1407
1408
1409 <h2>Tags</h2>
1410 <ul>
1411
1412  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/3d-printer">3d-printer (19)</a></li>
1413
1414  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/amiga">amiga (1)</a></li>
1415
1416  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/aros">aros (1)</a></li>
1417
1418  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/bankid">bankid (4)</a></li>
1419
1420  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/betalkontant">betalkontant (9)</a></li>
1421
1422  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/bitcoin">bitcoin (13)</a></li>
1423
1424  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem (17)</a></li>
1425
1426  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/bsa">bsa (2)</a></li>
1427
1428  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/chrpath">chrpath (3)</a></li>
1429
1430  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian">debian (202)</a></li>
1431
1432  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu (159)</a></li>
1433
1434  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian-handbook">debian-handbook (9)</a></li>
1435
1436  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/digistan">digistan (11)</a></li>
1437
1438  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/dld">dld (18)</a></li>
1439
1440  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/docbook">docbook (33)</a></li>
1441
1442  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/drivstoffpriser">drivstoffpriser (4)</a></li>
1443
1444  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/english">english (464)</a></li>
1445
1446  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/fiksgatami">fiksgatami (23)</a></li>
1447
1448  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/fildeling">fildeling (14)</a></li>
1449
1450  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/freeculture">freeculture (34)</a></li>
1451
1452  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/freedombox">freedombox (9)</a></li>
1453
1454  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/frikanalen">frikanalen (20)</a></li>
1455
1456  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/h264">h264 (20)</a></li>
1457
1458  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju (43)</a></li>
1459
1460  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/isenkram">isenkram (18)</a></li>
1461
1462  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/kart">kart (23)</a></li>
1463
1464  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/kodi">kodi (6)</a></li>
1465
1466  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap (9)</a></li>
1467
1468  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/lego">lego (5)</a></li>
1469
1470  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/lenker">lenker (8)</a></li>
1471
1472  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/linuxcnc">linuxcnc (7)</a></li>
1473
1474  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/lsdvd">lsdvd (2)</a></li>
1475
1476  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/ltsp">ltsp (1)</a></li>
1477
1478  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/madewithcc">madewithcc (3)</a></li>
1479
1480  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/mesh network">mesh network (8)</a></li>
1481
1482  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia (46)</a></li>
1483
1484  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/nice free software">nice free software (15)</a></li>
1485
1486  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/noark5">noark5 (25)</a></li>
1487
1488  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk (325)</a></li>
1489
1490  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug (199)</a></li>
1491
1492  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/offentlig innsyn">offentlig innsyn (41)</a></li>
1493
1494  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/open311">open311 (2)</a></li>
1495
1496  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/opensnitch">opensnitch (4)</a></li>
1497
1498  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett (76)</a></li>
1499
1500  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern (114)</a></li>
1501
1502  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/raid">raid (4)</a></li>
1503
1504  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/reactos">reactos (1)</a></li>
1505
1506  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/reprap">reprap (11)</a></li>
1507
1508  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/rfid">rfid (3)</a></li>
1509
1510  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/robot">robot (17)</a></li>
1511
1512  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/rss">rss (1)</a></li>
1513
1514  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/ruter">ruter (7)</a></li>
1515
1516  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/scraperwiki">scraperwiki (2)</a></li>
1517
1518  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet (60)</a></li>
1519
1520  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary (4)</a></li>
1521
1522  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/skepsis">skepsis (5)</a></li>
1523
1524  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/standard">standard (76)</a></li>
1525
1526  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll (7)</a></li>
1527
1528  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/stortinget">stortinget (14)</a></li>
1529
1530  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/surveillance">surveillance (65)</a></li>
1531
1532  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/sysadmin">sysadmin (5)</a></li>
1533
1534  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/usenix">usenix (2)</a></li>
1535
1536  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/valg">valg (9)</a></li>
1537
1538  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/verkidetfri">verkidetfri (22)</a></li>
1539
1540  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/video">video (80)</a></li>
1541
1542  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/vitenskap">vitenskap (4)</a></li>
1543
1544  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/web">web (42)</a></li>
1545
1546 </ul>
1547
1548
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