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15 <a href=
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23 <div class=
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24 <div class=
"date">16th July
2022</div>
25 <div class=
"body"><p>While working on a CNC with servo motors controlled by the
26 <a href=
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinuxCNC">LinuxCNC
</a>
27 <a href=
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PID_controller">PID
28 controller
</a>, I recently had to learn how to tune the collection of values
29 that control such mathematical machinery that a PID controller is. It
30 proved to be a lot harder than I hoped, and I still have not succeeded
31 in getting the Z PID controller to successfully defy gravity, nor X
32 and Y to move accurately and reliably. But while climbing up this
33 rather steep learning curve, I discovered that some motor control
34 systems are able to tune their PID controllers. I got the impression
35 from the documentation that LinuxCNC were not. This proved to be not
39 <a href=
"http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/pid.9.html">pid
40 component
</a> is the recommended PID controller to use. It uses eight
41 constants
<tt>Pgain
</tt>,
<tt>Igain
</tt>,
<tt>Dgain
</tt>,
42 <tt>bias
</tt>,
<tt>FF0
</tt>,
<tt>FF1
</tt>,
<tt>FF2
</tt> and
43 <tt>FF3
</tt> to calculate the output value based on current and wanted
44 state, and all of these need to have a sensible value for the
45 controller to behave properly. Note, there are even more values
46 involved, theser are just the most important ones. In my case I need
47 the X, Y and Z axes to follow the requested path with little error.
48 This has proved quite a challenge for someone who have never tuned a
49 PID controller before, but there is at least some help to be found.
51 <p>I discovered that included in LinuxCNC was this old PID component
52 at_pid claiming to have auto tuning capabilities. Sadly it had been
53 neglected since
2011, and could not be used as a plug in replacement
54 for the default pid component. One would have to rewriting the
55 LinuxCNC HAL setup to test at_pid. This was rather sad, when I wanted
56 to quickly test auto tuning to see if it did a better job than me at
57 figuring out good P, I and D values to use.
</p>
59 <p>I decided to have a look if the situation could be improved. This
60 involved trying to understand the code and history of the pid and
61 at_pid components. Apparently they had a common ancestor, as code
62 structure, comments and variable names were quite close to each other.
63 Sadly this was not reflected in the git history, making it hard to
64 figure out what really happened. My guess is that the author of
65 <a href=
"https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master/src/hal/components/at_pid.c">at_pid.c
</a>
67 <a href=
"https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master/src/hal/components/pid.c">pid.c
</a>,
68 rewrote it to follow the structure he wished pid.c to have, then added
69 support for auto tuning and finally got it included into the LinuxCNC
70 repository. The restructuring and lack of early history made it
71 harder to figure out which part of the code were relevant to the auto
72 tuning, and which part of the code needed to be updated to work the
73 same way as the current pid.c implementation. I started by trying to
74 isolate relevant changes in pid.c, and applying them to at_pid.c. My
75 aim was to make sure the at_pid component could replace the pid
76 component with a simple change in the HAL setup loadrt line, without
77 having to "rewire" the rest of the HAL configuration. After a few
78 hours following this approach, I had learned quite a lot about the
79 code structure of both components, while concluding I was heading down
80 the wrong rabbit hole, and should get back to the surface and find a
83 <p>For the second attempt, I decided to throw away all the PID control
84 related part of the original at_pid.c, and instead isolate and lift
85 the auto tuning part of the code and inject it into a copy of pid.c.
86 This ensured compatibility with the current pid component, while
87 adding auto tuning as a run time option. To make it easier to identify
88 the relevant parts in the future, I wrapped all the auto tuning code
89 with '#ifdef AUTO_TUNER'. The end result behave just like the current
90 pid component by default, as that part of the code is identical. The
91 <a href=
"https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/pull/1820">end result
92 entered the LinuxCNC master branch
</a> a few days ago.
</p>
94 <p>To enable auto tuning, one need to set a few HAL pins in the PID
95 component. The most important ones are
<tt>tune-effort
</tt>,
96 <tt>tune-mode
</tt> and
<tt>tune-start
</tt>. But lets take a step
97 back, and see what the auto tuning code will do. I do not know the
98 mathematical foundation of the at_pid algorithm, but from observation
99 I can tell that the algorithm will, when enabled, produce a square
100 wave pattern centered around the
<tt>bias
</tt> value on the output pin
101 of the PID controller. This can be seen using the HAL Scope provided
102 by LinuxCNC. In my case, this is translated into voltage (+-
10V) sent
103 to the motor controller, which in turn is translated into motor speed.
104 So at_pid will ask the motor to move the axis back and forth. The
105 number of cycles in the pattern is controlled by the
106 <tt>tune-cycles
</tt> pin, and the extremes of the wave pattern is
107 controlled by the
<tt>tune-effort
</tt> pin. Of course, trying to
108 change the direction of a physical object instantly (as in going
109 directly from a positive voltage to the equivalent negative voltage)
110 do not change velocity instantly, and it take some time for the object
111 to slow down and move in the opposite direction. This result in a
112 more smooth movement wave form, as the axis in question were vibrating
113 back and forth. When the axis reached the target speed in the
114 opposing direction, the auto tuner change direction again. After
115 several of these changes, the average time delay between the 'peaks'
116 and 'valleys' of this movement graph is then used to calculate
117 proposed values for Pgain, Igain and Dgain, and insert them into the
118 HAL model to use by the pid controller. The auto tuned settings are
119 not great, but htye work a lot better than the values I had been able
120 to cook up on my own, at least for the horizontal X and Y axis. But I
121 had to use very small
<tt>tune-effort
<tt> values, as my motor
122 controllers error out if the voltage change too quickly. I've been
123 less lucky with the Z axis, which is moving a heavy object up and
124 down, and seem to confuse the algorithm. The Z axis movement became a
125 lot better when I introduced a
<tt>bias
</tt> value to counter the
126 gravitational drag, but I will have to work a lot more on the Z axis
129 <p>Armed with this knowledge, it is time to look at how to do the
130 tuning. Lets say the HAL configuration in question load the PID
131 component for X, Y and Z like this:
</p>
134 loadrt pid names=pid.x,pid.y,pid.z
137 <p>Armed with the new and improved at_pid component, the new line will
141 loadrt at_pid names=pid.x,pid.y,pid.z
144 <p>The rest of the HAL setup can stay the same. This work because the
145 components are referenced by name. If the component had used count=
3
146 instead, all use of pid.# had to be changed to at_pid.#.
</p>
148 <p>To start tuning the X axis, move the axis to the middle of its
149 range, to make sure it do not hit anything when it start moving back
150 and forth. Next, set the
<tt>tune-effort
</tt> to a low number in the
151 output range. I used
0.1 as my initial value. Next, assign
1 to the
152 <tt>tune-mode
</tt> value. Note, this will disable the pid controlling
153 part and feed
0 to the output pin, which in my case initially caused a
154 lot of drift. In my case it proved to be a good idea with X and Y to
155 tune the motor driver to make sure
0 voltage stopped the motor
156 rotation. On the other hand, for the Z axis this proved to be a bad
157 idea, so it will depend on your setup. It might help to set the
158 <tt>bias
</tt> value to a output value that reduce or eliminate the
159 axis drift. Finally, after setting
<tt>tune-mode
</tt>, set
160 <tt>tune-start
</tt> to
1 to activate the auto tuning. If all go well,
161 your axis will vibrate for a few seconds and when it is done, new
162 values for Pgain, Igain and Dgain will be active. To test them,
163 change
<tt>tune-mode
</tt> back to
0. Note that this might cause the
164 machine to suddenly jerk as it bring the axis back to its commanded
165 position, which it might have drifted away from during tuning. To
166 summarize with some halcmd lines:
</p>
169 setp pid.x.tune-effort
0.1
170 setp pid.x.tune-mode
1
171 setp pid.x.tune-start
1
172 # wait for the tuning to complete
173 setp pid.x.tune-mode
0
176 <p>After doing this task quite a few times while trying to figure out
177 how to properly tune the PID controllers on the machine in, I decided
178 to figure out if this process could be automated, and wrote a script
179 to do the entire tuning process from power on. The end result will
180 ensure the machine is powered on and ready to run, home all axis if it
181 is not already done, check that the extra tuning pins are available,
182 move the axis to its mid point, run the auto tuning and re-enable the
183 pid controller when it is done. It can be run several times. Check
185 <a href=
"https://github.com/SebKuzminsky/MazakVQC1540/blob/bon-dev/scripts/run-auto-pid-tuner">run-auto-pid-tuner
</a>
186 script on github if you want to learn how it is done.
</p>
188 <p>My hope is that this little adventure can inspire someone who know
189 more about motor PID controller tuning can implement even better
190 algorithms for automatic PID tuning in LinuxCNC, making life easier
191 for both me and all the others that want to use LinuxCNC but lack the
192 in depth knowledge needed to tune PID controllers well.
</p>
194 <p>As usual, if you use Bitcoin and want to show your support of my
195 activities, please send Bitcoin donations to my address
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662 <li><a href=
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13)
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664 <li><a href=
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17)
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666 <li><a href=
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2)
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668 <li><a href=
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3)
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670 <li><a href=
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202)
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672 <li><a href=
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159)
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674 <li><a href=
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9)
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676 <li><a href=
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11)
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678 <li><a href=
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18)
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680 <li><a href=
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33)
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682 <li><a href=
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4)
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684 <li><a href=
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464)
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686 <li><a href=
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23)
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14)
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690 <li><a href=
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34)
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692 <li><a href=
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694 <li><a href=
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20)
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696 <li><a href=
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20)
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698 <li><a href=
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700 <li><a href=
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18)
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702 <li><a href=
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704 <li><a href=
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6)
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706 <li><a href=
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9)
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708 <li><a href=
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5)
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710 <li><a href=
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8)
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712 <li><a href=
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7)
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714 <li><a href=
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2)
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716 <li><a href=
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1)
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718 <li><a href=
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3)
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720 <li><a href=
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722 <li><a href=
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46)
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724 <li><a href=
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15)
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726 <li><a href=
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25)
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728 <li><a href=
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325)
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730 <li><a href=
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199)
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732 <li><a href=
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41)
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734 <li><a href=
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2)
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736 <li><a href=
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4)
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738 <li><a href=
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76)
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740 <li><a href=
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114)
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742 <li><a href=
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744 <li><a href=
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1)
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746 <li><a href=
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11)
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748 <li><a href=
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3)
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750 <li><a href=
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17)
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752 <li><a href=
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1)
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754 <li><a href=
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7)
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756 <li><a href=
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2)
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758 <li><a href=
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60)
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760 <li><a href=
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4)
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762 <li><a href=
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5)
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764 <li><a href=
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76)
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766 <li><a href=
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7)
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768 <li><a href=
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14)
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770 <li><a href=
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65)
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772 <li><a href=
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5)
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774 <li><a href=
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2)
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776 <li><a href=
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9)
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778 <li><a href=
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22)
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780 <li><a href=
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80)
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782 <li><a href=
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4)
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784 <li><a href=
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42)
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