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1 Title: MPEG LA on "Internet Broadcast AVC Video" licensing and non-private use
2 Tags: english, video, opphavsrett, multimedia, web, standard, h264
3 Date: 2015-07-07 09:50
4
5 <p>After asking the Norwegian Broadcasting Company (NRK)
6 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Hva_gj_r_at_NRK_kan_distribuere_H_264_video_uten_patentavtale_med_MPEG_LA_.html">why
7 they can broadcast and stream H.264 video without an agreement with
8 the MPEG LA</a>, I was wiser, but still confused. So I asked MPEG LA
9 if their understanding matched that of NRK. As far as I can tell, it
10 does not.</p>
11
12 <p>I started by asking for more information about the various
13 licensing classes and what exactly is covered by the "Internet
14 Broadcast AVC Video" class that NRK pointed me at to explain why NRK
15 did not need a license for streaming H.264 video:
16
17 <p><blockquote>
18
19 <p>According to
20 <a href="http://www.mpegla.com/Lists/MPEG%20LA%20News%20List/Attachments/226/n-10-02-02.pdf">a
21 MPEG LA press release dated 2010-02-02</a>, there is no charge when
22 using MPEG AVC/H.264 according to the terms of "Internet Broadcast AVC
23 Video". I am trying to understand exactly what the terms of "Internet
24 Broadcast AVC Video" is, and wondered if you could help me. What
25 exactly is covered by these terms, and what is not?</p>
26
27 <p>The only source of more information I have been able to find is a
28 PDF named
29 <a href="http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/avc/Documents/avcweb.pdf">AVC
30 Patent Portfolio License Briefing</a>, which states this about the
31 fees:</p>
32
33 <ul>
34 <li>Where End User pays for AVC Video
35 <ul>
36 <li>Subscription (not limited by title) – 100,000 or fewer
37 subscribers/yr = no royalty; &gt; 100,000 to 250,000 subscribers/yr =
38 $25,000; &gt;250,000 to 500,000 subscribers/yr = $50,000; &gt;500,000 to
39 1M subscribers/yr = $75,000; &gt;1M subscribers/yr = $100,000</li>
40
41 <li>Title-by-Title - 12 minutes or less = no royalty; &gt;12 minutes in
42 length = lower of (a) 2% or (b) $0.02 per title</li>
43 </ul></li>
44
45 <li>Where remuneration is from other sources
46 <ul>
47 <li>Free Television - (a) one-time $2,500 per transmission encoder or
48 (b) annual fee starting at $2,500 for &gt; 100,000 HH rising to
49 maximum $10,000 for &gt;1,000,000 HH</li>
50
51 <li>Internet Broadcast AVC Video (not title-by-title, not subscription)
52 – no royalty for life of the AVC Patent Portfolio License</li>
53 </ul></li>
54 </ul>
55
56 <p>Am I correct in assuming that the four categories listed is the
57 categories used when selecting licensing terms, and that "Internet
58 Broadcast AVC Video" is the category for things that do not fall into
59 one of the other three categories? Can you point me to a good source
60 explaining what is ment by "title-by-title" and "Free Television" in
61 the license terms for AVC/H.264?</p>
62
63 <p>Will a web service providing H.264 encoded video content in a
64 "video on demand" fashing similar to Youtube and Vimeo, where no
65 subscription is required and no payment is required from end users to
66 get access to the videos, fall under the terms of the "Internet
67 Broadcast AVC Video", ie no royalty for life of the AVC Patent
68 Portfolio license? Does it matter if some users are subscribed to get
69 access to personalized services?</p>
70
71 <p>Note, this request and all answers will be published on the
72 Internet.</p>
73 </blockquote></p>
74
75 <p>The answer came quickly from Benjamin J. Myers, Licensing Associate
76 with the MPEG LA:</p>
77
78 <p><blockquote>
79 <p>Thank you for your message and for your interest in MPEG LA. We
80 appreciate hearing from you and I will be happy to assist you.</p>
81
82 <p>As you are aware, MPEG LA offers our AVC Patent Portfolio License
83 which provides coverage under patents that are essential for use of
84 the AVC/H.264 Standard (MPEG-4 Part 10). Specifically, coverage is
85 provided for end products and video content that make use of AVC/H.264
86 technology. Accordingly, the party offering such end products and
87 video to End Users concludes the AVC License and is responsible for
88 paying the applicable royalties.</p>
89
90 <p>Regarding Internet Broadcast AVC Video, the AVC License generally
91 defines such content to be video that is distributed to End Users over
92 the Internet free-of-charge. Therefore, if a party offers a service
93 which allows users to upload AVC/H.264 video to its website, and such
94 AVC Video is delivered to End Users for free, then such video would
95 receive coverage under the sublicense for Internet Broadcast AVC
96 Video, which is not subject to any royalties for the life of the AVC
97 License. This would also apply in the scenario where a user creates a
98 free online account in order to receive a customized offering of free
99 AVC Video content. In other words, as long as the End User is given
100 access to or views AVC Video content at no cost to the End User, then
101 no royalties would be payable under our AVC License.</p>
102
103 <p>On the other hand, if End Users pay for access to AVC Video for a
104 specific period of time (e.g., one month, one year, etc.), then such
105 video would constitute Subscription AVC Video. In cases where AVC
106 Video is delivered to End Users on a pay-per-view basis, then such
107 content would constitute Title-by-Title AVC Video. If a party offers
108 Subscription or Title-by-Title AVC Video to End Users, then they would
109 be responsible for paying the applicable royalties you noted below.</p>
110
111 <p>Finally, in the case where AVC Video is distributed for free
112 through an "over-the-air, satellite and/or cable transmission", then
113 such content would constitute Free Television AVC Video and would be
114 subject to the applicable royalties.</p>
115
116 <p>For your reference, I have attached
117 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2015-07-07-mpegla.pdf">a
118 .pdf copy of the AVC License</a>. You will find the relevant
119 sublicense information regarding AVC Video in Sections 2.2 through
120 2.5, and the corresponding royalties in Section 3.1.2 through 3.1.4.
121 You will also find the definitions of Title-by-Title AVC Video,
122 Subscription AVC Video, Free Television AVC Video, and Internet
123 Broadcast AVC Video in Section 1 of the License. Please note that the
124 electronic copy is provided for informational purposes only and cannot
125 be used for execution.</p>
126
127 <p>I hope the above information is helpful. If you have additional
128 questions or need further assistance with the AVC License, please feel
129 free to contact me directly.</p>
130 </blockquote></p>
131
132 <p>Having a fresh copy of the license text was useful, and knowing
133 that the definition of Title-by-Title required payment per title made
134 me aware that my earlier understanding of that phrase had been wrong.
135 But I still had a few questions:</p>
136
137 <p><blockquote>
138 <p>I have a small followup question. Would it be possible for me to get
139 a license with MPEG LA even if there are no royalties to be paid? The
140 reason I ask, is that some video related products have a copyright
141 clause limiting their use without a license with MPEG LA. The clauses
142 typically look similar to this:
143
144 <p><blockquote>
145 This product is licensed under the AVC patent portfolio license for
146 the personal and non-commercial use of a consumer to (a) encode
147 video in compliance with the AVC standard ("AVC video") and/or (b)
148 decode AVC video that was encoded by a consumer engaged in a
149 personal and non-commercial activity and/or AVC video that was
150 obtained from a video provider licensed to provide AVC video. No
151 license is granted or shall be implied for any other use. additional
152 information may be obtained from MPEG LA L.L.C.
153 </blockquote></p>
154
155 <p>It is unclear to me if this clause mean that I need to enter into
156 an agreement with MPEG LA to use the product in question, even if
157 there are no royalties to be paid to MPEG LA. I suspect it will
158 differ depending on the jurisdiction, and mine is Norway. What is
159 MPEG LAs view on this?</p>
160 </blockquote></p>
161
162 <p>According to the answer, MPEG LA believe those using such tools for
163 non-personal or commercial use need a license with them:</p>
164
165 <p><blockquote>
166
167 <p>With regard to the Notice to Customers, I would like to begin by
168 clarifying that the Notice from Section 7.1 of the AVC License
169 reads:</p>
170
171 <p>THIS PRODUCT IS LICENSED UNDER THE AVC PATENT PORTFOLIO LICENSE FOR
172 THE PERSONAL USE OF A CONSUMER OR OTHER USES IN WHICH IT DOES NOT
173 RECEIVE REMUNERATION TO (i) ENCODE VIDEO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AVC
174 STANDARD ("AVC VIDEO") AND/OR (ii) DECODE AVC VIDEO THAT WAS ENCODED
175 BY A CONSUMER ENGAGED IN A PERSONAL ACTIVITY AND/OR WAS OBTAINED FROM
176 A VIDEO PROVIDER LICENSED TO PROVIDE AVC VIDEO. NO LICENSE IS GRANTED
177 OR SHALL BE IMPLIED FOR ANY OTHER USE. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION MAY BE
178 OBTAINED FROM MPEG LA, L.L.C. SEE HTTP://WWW.MPEGLA.COM</p>
179
180 <p>The Notice to Customers is intended to inform End Users of the
181 personal usage rights (for example, to watch video content) included
182 with the product they purchased, and to encourage any party using the
183 product for commercial purposes to contact MPEG LA in order to become
184 licensed for such use (for example, when they use an AVC Product to
185 deliver Title-by-Title, Subscription, Free Television or Internet
186 Broadcast AVC Video to End Users, or to re-Sell a third party's AVC
187 Product as their own branded AVC Product).</p>
188
189 <p>Therefore, if a party is to be licensed for its use of an AVC
190 Product to Sell AVC Video on a Title-by-Title, Subscription, Free
191 Television or Internet Broadcast basis, that party would need to
192 conclude the AVC License, even in the case where no royalties were
193 payable under the License. On the other hand, if that party (either a
194 Consumer or business customer) simply uses an AVC Product for their
195 own internal purposes and not for the commercial purposes referenced
196 above, then such use would be included in the royalty paid for the AVC
197 Products by the licensed supplier.</p>
198
199 <p>Finally, I note that our AVC License provides worldwide coverage in
200 countries that have AVC Patent Portfolio Patents, including
201 Norway.</p>
202
203 <p>I hope this clarification is helpful. If I may be of any further
204 assistance, just let me know.</p>
205 </blockquote></p>
206
207 <p>The mentioning of Norwegian patents made me a bit confused, so I
208 asked for more information:</p>
209
210 <p><blockquote>
211
212 <p>But one minor question at the end. If I understand you correctly,
213 you state in the quote above that there are patents in the AVC Patent
214 Portfolio that are valid in Norway. This make me believe I read the
215 list available from &lt;URL:
216 <a href="http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/PatentList.aspx">http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/PatentList.aspx</a>
217 &gt; incorrectly, as I believed the "NO" prefix in front of patents
218 were Norwegian patents, and the only one I could find under Mitsubishi
219 Electric Corporation expired in 2012. Which patents are you referring
220 to that are relevant for Norway?</p>
221
222 </blockquote></p>
223
224 <p>Again, the quick answer explained how to read the list of patents
225 in that list:</p>
226
227 <p><blockquote>
228
229 <p>Your understanding is correct that the last AVC Patent Portfolio
230 Patent in Norway expired on 21 October 2012. Therefore, where AVC
231 Video is both made and Sold in Norway after that date, then no
232 royalties would be payable for such AVC Video under the AVC License.
233 With that said, our AVC License provides historic coverage for AVC
234 Products and AVC Video that may have been manufactured or Sold before
235 the last Norwegian AVC patent expired. I would also like to clarify
236 that coverage is provided for the country of manufacture and the
237 country of Sale that has active AVC Patent Portfolio Patents.</p>
238
239 <p>Therefore, if a party offers AVC Products or AVC Video for Sale in
240 a country with active AVC Patent Portfolio Patents (for example,
241 Sweden, Denmark, Finland, etc.), then that party would still need
242 coverage under the AVC License even if such products or video are
243 initially made in a country without active AVC Patent Portfolio
244 Patents (for example, Norway). Similarly, a party would need to
245 conclude the AVC License if they make AVC Products or AVC Video in a
246 country with active AVC Patent Portfolio Patents, but eventually Sell
247 such AVC Products or AVC Video in a country without active AVC Patent
248 Portfolio Patents.</p>
249 </blockquote></p>
250
251 <p>As far as I understand it, MPEG LA believe anyone using Adobe
252 Premiere and other video related software with a H.264 distribution
253 license need a license agreement with MPEG LA to use such tools for
254 anything non-private or commercial, while it is OK to set up a
255 Youtube-like service as long as no-one pays to get access to the
256 content. I still have no clear idea how this applies to Norway, where
257 none of the patents MPEG LA is licensing are valid. Will the
258 copyright terms take precedence or can those terms be ignored because
259 the patents are not valid in Norway?</p>