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15 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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23 <div class="title">listadmin, the quick way to moderate mailman lists - nice free software</div>
24 <div class="date">22nd October 2014</div>
25 <div class="body"><p>If you ever had to moderate a mailman list, like the ones on
26 alioth.debian.org, you know the web interface is fairly slow to
27 operate. First you visit one web page, enter the moderation password
28 and get a new page shown with a list of all the messages to moderate
29 and various options for each email address. This take a while for
30 every list you moderate, and you need to do it regularly to do a good
31 job as a list moderator. But there is a quick alternative,
32 <a href="http://heim.ifi.uio.no/kjetilho/hacks/#listadmin">the
33 listadmin program</a>. It allow you to check lists for new messages
34 to moderate in a fraction of a second. Here is a test run on two
35 lists I recently took over:</p>
36
37 <p><blockquote><pre>
38 % time listadmin xiph
39 fetching data for pkg-xiph-commits@lists.alioth.debian.org ... nothing in queue
40 fetching data for pkg-xiph-maint@lists.alioth.debian.org ... nothing in queue
41
42 real 0m1.709s
43 user 0m0.232s
44 sys 0m0.012s
45 %
46 </pre></blockquote></p>
47
48 <p>In 1.7 seconds I had checked two mailing lists and confirmed that
49 there are no message in the moderation queue. Every morning I
50 currently moderate 68 mailman lists, and it normally take around two
51 minutes. When I took over the two pkg-xiph lists above a few days
52 ago, there were 400 emails waiting in the moderator queue. It took me
53 less than 15 minutes to process them all using the listadmin
54 program.</p>
55
56 <p>If you install
57 <a href="https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/listadmin">the listadmin
58 package</a> from Debian and create a file <tt>~/.listadmin.ini</tt>
59 with content like this, the moderation task is a breeze:</p>
60
61 <p><blockquote><pre>
62 username username@example.org
63 spamlevel 23
64 default discard
65 discard_if_reason "Posting restricted to members only. Remove us from your mail list."
66
67 password secret
68 adminurl https://{domain}/mailman/admindb/{list}
69 mailman-list@lists.example.com
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71 password hidden
72 other-list@otherserver.example.org
73 </pre></blockquote></p>
74
75 <p>There are other options to set as well. Check the manual page to
76 learn the details.</p>
77
78 <p>If you are forced to moderate lists on a mailman installation where
79 the SSL certificate is self signed or not properly signed by a
80 generally accepted signing authority, you can set a environment
81 variable when calling listadmin to disable SSL verification:</p>
82
83 <p><blockquote><pre>
84 PERL_LWP_SSL_VERIFY_HOSTNAME=0 listadmin
85 </pre></blockquote></p>
86
87 <p>If you want to moderate a subset of the lists you take care of, you
88 can provide an argument to the listadmin script like I do in the
89 initial screen dump (the xiph argument). Using an argument, only
90 lists matching the argument string will be processed. This make it
91 quick to accept messages if you notice the moderation request in your
92 email.</p>
93
94 <p>Without the listadmin program, I would never be the moderator of 68
95 mailing lists, as I simply do not have time to spend on that if the
96 process was any slower. The listadmin program have saved me hours of
97 time I could spend elsewhere over the years. It truly is nice free
98 software.</p>
99
100 <p>As usual, if you use Bitcoin and want to show your support of my
101 activities, please send Bitcoin donations to my address
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103
104 <p>Update 2014-10-27: Added missing 'username' statement in
105 configuration example. Also, I've been told that the
106 PERL_LWP_SSL_VERIFY_HOSTNAME=0 setting do not work for everyone. Not
107 sure why.</p>
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