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15 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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23 <div class="title">Debian Edu interview: Klaus Knopper</div>
24 <div class="date"> 6th December 2013</div>
25 <div class="body"><p>It has been a while since I managed to publish the last interview,
26 but the <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu /
27 Skolelinux</a> community is still going strong, and yesterday we even
28 had a new school administrator show up on
29 <a href="irc://irc.debian.org/#debian-edu">#debian-edu</a> to share
30 his success story with installing Debian Edu at their school. This
31 time I have been able to get some helpful comments from the creator of
32 Knoppix, Klaus Knopper, who was involved in a Skolelinux project in
33 Germany a few years ago.</p>
34
35 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?</strong></p>
36
37 <p>I am Klaus Knopper. I have a master degree in electrical
38 engineering, and is currently professor in information management at
39 the university of applied sciences Kaiserslautern / Germany and
40 freelance Open Source software developer and consultant.</p>
41
42 <p>All of this is pretty much of the work I spend my days with. Apart
43 from teaching, I'm also conducting some more or less experimental
44 projects like the <a href="http://www.knoppix.org">Knoppix GNU/Linux live
45 system</a> (Debian-based like Skolelinux),
46 <a href="http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-adriane/index-en.html">ADRIANE</a>
47 (a blind-friendly talking desktop system) and
48 <a href="http://www.knopper.net/linbo/index-en.html">LINBO</a>
49 (Linux-based network boot console, a fast remote install and repair
50 system supporting various operating systems).</p>
51
52 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
53 project?</strong></p>
54
55 <p>The credit for this have to go to Kurt Gramlich, who is the German
56 coordinator for Skolelinux. We were looking for an all-in-one open
57 source community-supported distribution for schools, and Kurt
58 introduced us to Skolelinux for this purpose.</p>
59
60 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
61 Edu?</strong></p>
62
63 <ul>
64 <li>Quick installation,</li>
65 <li>works (almost) out of the box,</li>
66 <li>contains many useful software packages for teaching and learning,</li>
67 <li>is a purely community-based distro and not controlled by a
68 single company,</li>
69 <li>has a large number of supporters and teachers who share their
70 experience and problem solutions.</li>
71 </ul>
72
73 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
74 Edu?</strong></p>
75
76 <ul>
77 <li>Skolelinux is - as we had to learn - not easily upgradable to
78 the next version. Opposed to its genuine Debian base, upgrading to
79 a new version means a full new installation from scratch to get it
80 working again reliably.
81
82 <li>Skolelinux is based on Debian/stable, and therefore always a
83 little outdated in terms of program versions compared to Edubuntu or
84 similar educational Linux distros, which rather use Debian/testing
85 as their base.
86
87 <li>Skolelinux has some very self-opinionated and stubborn default
88 configuration which in my opinion adds unnecessary complexity and is
89 not always suitable for a schools needs, the preset network
90 configuration is actually a core definition feature of Skolelinux
91 and not easy to change, so schools sometimes have to change their
92 network configuration to make it "Skolelinux-compatible".
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94 <li>Some proposed extensions, which were made available as
95 contribution, like secure examination mode and lecture material
96 distribution and collection, were not accepted into the mainline
97 Skolelinux development and are now not easy to maintain in the
98 future because of Skolelinux somewhat undeterministic update
99 schemes.</li>
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101 <li>Skolelinux has only a very tiny number of base developers
102 compared to Debian.</li>
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104 </ul>
105
106 <p>For these reasons and experience from our project, I would now
107 rather consider using plain Debian for schools next time, until
108 Skolelinux is more closely integrated into Debian and becomes
109 upgradeable without reinstallation.</p>
110
111 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?</strong></p>
112
113 <p>GNU/Linux with LXDE desktop, bash for interactive dialog and
114 programming, texlive for documentation and correspondence,
115 occasionally LibreOffice for document format conversion. Various
116 programming languages for teaching.</p>
117
118 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
119 get schools to use free software?</strong></p>
120
121 <p>Strong arguments are</p>
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125 <li>Knowledge is free, and so should be methods and tools for
126 teaching and learning.</li>
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128 <li>Students can learn with and use the same software at school, at
129 home, and at their working place without running into license or
130 conversion problems.</li>
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132 <li>Closed source or proprietary software hides knowledge rather
133 than exposing it, and proprietary software vendors try to bind
134 customers to certain products. But teachers need to teach
135 science, not products.</li>
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137 <li>If you have everything you for daily work as open source, what
138 would you need proprietary software for?</li>
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140 </ul>
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143 <div class="tags">Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju</a>.</div>
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