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22 <h3>Entries from July
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26 <a href=
"http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/Automatic_LinuxCNC_servo_PID_tuning_.html">Automatic LinuxCNC servo PID tuning?
</a>
32 <p>While working on a CNC with servo motors controlled by the
33 <a href=
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinuxCNC">LinuxCNC
</a>
34 <a href=
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PID_controller">PID
35 controller
</a>, I recently had to learn how to tune the collection of values
36 that control such mathematical machinery that a PID controller is. It
37 proved to be a lot harder than I hoped, and I still have not succeeded
38 in getting the Z PID controller to successfully defy gravity, nor X
39 and Y to move accurately and reliably. But while climbing up this
40 rather steep learning curve, I discovered that some motor control
41 systems are able to tune their PID controllers. I got the impression
42 from the documentation that LinuxCNC were not. This proved to be not
46 <a href=
"http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/pid.9.html">pid
47 component
</a> is the recommended PID controller to use. It uses eight
48 constants
<tt>Pgain
</tt>,
<tt>Igain
</tt>,
<tt>Dgain
</tt>,
49 <tt>bias
</tt>,
<tt>FF0
</tt>,
<tt>FF1
</tt>,
<tt>FF2
</tt> and
50 <tt>FF3
</tt> to calculate the output value based on current and wanted
51 state, and all of these need to have a sensible value for the
52 controller to behave properly. Note, there are even more values
53 involved, theser are just the most important ones. In my case I need
54 the X, Y and Z axes to follow the requested path with little error.
55 This has proved quite a challenge for someone who have never tuned a
56 PID controller before, but there is at least some help to be found.
58 <p>I discovered that included in LinuxCNC was this old PID component
59 at_pid claiming to have auto tuning capabilities. Sadly it had been
60 neglected since
2011, and could not be used as a plug in replacement
61 for the default pid component. One would have to rewriting the
62 LinuxCNC HAL setup to test at_pid. This was rather sad, when I wanted
63 to quickly test auto tuning to see if it did a better job than me at
64 figuring out good P, I and D values to use.
</p>
66 <p>I decided to have a look if the situation could be improved. This
67 involved trying to understand the code and history of the pid and
68 at_pid components. Apparently they had a common ancestor, as code
69 structure, comments and variable names were quite close to each other.
70 Sadly this was not reflected in the git history, making it hard to
71 figure out what really happened. My guess is that the author of
72 <a href=
"https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master/src/hal/components/at_pid.c">at_pid.c
</a>
74 <a href=
"https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master/src/hal/components/pid.c">pid.c
</a>,
75 rewrote it to follow the structure he wished pid.c to have, then added
76 support for auto tuning and finally got it included into the LinuxCNC
77 repository. The restructuring and lack of early history made it
78 harder to figure out which part of the code were relevant to the auto
79 tuning, and which part of the code needed to be updated to work the
80 same way as the current pid.c implementation. I started by trying to
81 isolate relevant changes in pid.c, and applying them to at_pid.c. My
82 aim was to make sure the at_pid component could replace the pid
83 component with a simple change in the HAL setup loadrt line, without
84 having to "rewire" the rest of the HAL configuration. After a few
85 hours following this approach, I had learned quite a lot about the
86 code structure of both components, while concluding I was heading down
87 the wrong rabbit hole, and should get back to the surface and find a
90 <p>For the second attempt, I decided to throw away all the PID control
91 related part of the original at_pid.c, and instead isolate and lift
92 the auto tuning part of the code and inject it into a copy of pid.c.
93 This ensured compatibility with the current pid component, while
94 adding auto tuning as a run time option. To make it easier to identify
95 the relevant parts in the future, I wrapped all the auto tuning code
96 with '#ifdef AUTO_TUNER'. The end result behave just like the current
97 pid component by default, as that part of the code is identical. The
98 <a href=
"https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/pull/1820">end result
99 entered the LinuxCNC master branch
</a> a few days ago.
</p>
101 <p>To enable auto tuning, one need to set a few HAL pins in the PID
102 component. The most important ones are
<tt>tune-effort
</tt>,
103 <tt>tune-mode
</tt> and
<tt>tune-start
</tt>. But lets take a step
104 back, and see what the auto tuning code will do. I do not know the
105 mathematical foundation of the at_pid algorithm, but from observation
106 I can tell that the algorithm will, when enabled, produce a square
107 wave pattern centered around the
<tt>bias
</tt> value on the output pin
108 of the PID controller. This can be seen using the HAL Scope provided
109 by LinuxCNC. In my case, this is translated into voltage (+-
10V) sent
110 to the motor controller, which in turn is translated into motor speed.
111 So at_pid will ask the motor to move the axis back and forth. The
112 number of cycles in the pattern is controlled by the
113 <tt>tune-cycles
</tt> pin, and the extremes of the wave pattern is
114 controlled by the
<tt>tune-effort
</tt> pin. Of course, trying to
115 change the direction of a physical object instantly (as in going
116 directly from a positive voltage to the equivalent negative voltage)
117 do not change velocity instantly, and it take some time for the object
118 to slow down and move in the opposite direction. This result in a
119 more smooth movement wave form, as the axis in question were vibrating
120 back and forth. When the axis reached the target speed in the
121 opposing direction, the auto tuner change direction again. After
122 several of these changes, the average time delay between the 'peaks'
123 and 'valleys' of this movement graph is then used to calculate
124 proposed values for Pgain, Igain and Dgain, and insert them into the
125 HAL model to use by the pid controller. The auto tuned settings are
126 not great, but htye work a lot better than the values I had been able
127 to cook up on my own, at least for the horizontal X and Y axis. But I
128 had to use very small
<tt>tune-effort
<tt> values, as my motor
129 controllers error out if the voltage change too quickly. I've been
130 less lucky with the Z axis, which is moving a heavy object up and
131 down, and seem to confuse the algorithm. The Z axis movement became a
132 lot better when I introduced a
<tt>bias
</tt> value to counter the
133 gravitational drag, but I will have to work a lot more on the Z axis
136 <p>Armed with this knowledge, it is time to look at how to do the
137 tuning. Lets say the HAL configuration in question load the PID
138 component for X, Y and Z like this:
</p>
141 loadrt pid names=pid.x,pid.y,pid.z
144 <p>Armed with the new and improved at_pid component, the new line will
148 loadrt at_pid names=pid.x,pid.y,pid.z
151 <p>The rest of the HAL setup can stay the same. This work because the
152 components are referenced by name. If the component had used count=
3
153 instead, all use of pid.# had to be changed to at_pid.#.
</p>
155 <p>To start tuning the X axis, move the axis to the middle of its
156 range, to make sure it do not hit anything when it start moving back
157 and forth. Next, set the
<tt>tune-effort
</tt> to a low number in the
158 output range. I used
0.1 as my initial value. Next, assign
1 to the
159 <tt>tune-mode
</tt> value. Note, this will disable the pid controlling
160 part and feed
0 to the output pin, which in my case initially caused a
161 lot of drift. In my case it proved to be a good idea with X and Y to
162 tune the motor driver to make sure
0 voltage stopped the motor
163 rotation. On the other hand, for the Z axis this proved to be a bad
164 idea, so it will depend on your setup. It might help to set the
165 <tt>bias
</tt> value to a output value that reduce or eliminate the
166 axis drift. Finally, after setting
<tt>tune-mode
</tt>, set
167 <tt>tune-start
</tt> to
1 to activate the auto tuning. If all go well,
168 your axis will vibrate for a few seconds and when it is done, new
169 values for Pgain, Igain and Dgain will be active. To test them,
170 change
<tt>tune-mode
</tt> back to
0. Note that this might cause the
171 machine to suddenly jerk as it bring the axis back to its commanded
172 position, which it might have drifted away from during tuning. To
173 summarize with some halcmd lines:
</p>
176 setp pid.x.tune-effort
0.1
177 setp pid.x.tune-mode
1
178 setp pid.x.tune-start
1
179 # wait for the tuning to complete
180 setp pid.x.tune-mode
0
183 <p>After doing this task quite a few times while trying to figure out
184 how to properly tune the PID controllers on the machine in, I decided
185 to figure out if this process could be automated, and wrote a script
186 to do the entire tuning process from power on. The end result will
187 ensure the machine is powered on and ready to run, home all axis if it
188 is not already done, check that the extra tuning pins are available,
189 move the axis to its mid point, run the auto tuning and re-enable the
190 pid controller when it is done. It can be run several times. Check
192 <a href=
"https://github.com/SebKuzminsky/MazakVQC1540/blob/bon-dev/scripts/run-auto-pid-tuner">run-auto-pid-tuner
</a>
193 script on github if you want to learn how it is done.
</p>
195 <p>My hope is that this little adventure can inspire someone who know
196 more about motor PID controller tuning can implement even better
197 algorithms for automatic PID tuning in LinuxCNC, making life easier
198 for both me and all the others that want to use LinuxCNC but lack the
199 in depth knowledge needed to tune PID controllers well.
</p>
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3)
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9)
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11)
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471)
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20)
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20)
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733 <li><a href=
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8)
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3)
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1)
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739 <li><a href=
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3)
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741 <li><a href=
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743 <li><a href=
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48)
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27)
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200)
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2)
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757 <li><a href=
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759 <li><a href=
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76)
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114)
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1)
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11)
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769 <li><a href=
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3)
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17)
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1)
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777 <li><a href=
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2)
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60)
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80)
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787 <li><a href=
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789 <li><a href=
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14)
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65)
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793 <li><a href=
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795 <li><a href=
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2)
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797 <li><a href=
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799 <li><a href=
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23)
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801 <li><a href=
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82)
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803 <li><a href=
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4)
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42)
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