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  15      <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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  23       <div class="title">Debian Edu interview: Shirish Agarwal</div>
  24       <div class="date">15th April 2015</div>
  25       <div class="body"><p>It was a surprise to me to learn that project to create a complete
  26 computer system for schools I've involved in,
  27 <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux</a>, was
  28 being used in India.  But apparently it is, and I managed to get an
  29 interview with one of the friends of the project there, Shirish
  30 Agarwal.</p>
  31
  32 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?</strong></p>
  33
  34 <p>My name is Shirish Agarwal. Based out of the educational and
  35 historical city of Pune, from the western state of Maharashtra, India.
  36 My bread comes from giving training, giving policy tips,
  37 installations on free software to mom and pop shops in different
  38 fields from Desktop publishing to retail shops as well as work with
  39 few software start-ups as well.</p>
  40
  41 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
  42 project?</strong></p>
  43
  44 <p>It started innocently enough. I have been using Debian for a few
  45 years and in one local minidebconf / debutsav I was asked if there was
  46 anything for schools or education. I had worked / played with free
  47 educational softwares such as Gcompris and Stellarium for my many
  48 nieces and nephews so researched and found Debian Edu or Skolelinux as
  49 it was known then.  Since then I have started using the various
  50 education meta-packages provided by the project.</p>
  51
  52 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
  53 Edu?</strong></p>
  54
  55 <p>It's closest I have seen where a package full of educational
  56 software are packed, which are free and open (both literally and
  57 figuratively).  Even if I take the simplest software which is
  58 gcompris, the number of activities therein are amazing. Another one of
  59 the softwares that I have liked for a long time is stellarium. Even
  60 pysycache is cool except for couple of issues I encountered
  61 <a href="https://bugs.debian.org/781841">#781841</a> and
  62 <a href="https://bugs.debian.org/781842">#781842</a>.</p>
  63
  64 <p>I prefer software installed on the system over web based solutions,
  65 as a web site can disappear any time but the software on disk has the
  66 possibility of a larger life span.  Of course with both it's more a
  67 question if it has enough users who make it fun or sustainable or both
  68 for the developer per-se.</p>
  69
  70 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
  71 Edu?</strong></p>
  72
  73 <p>I do see that the Debian Edu team seems to be short-handed and I
  74 think more efforts should be made to make it popular and ask and take
  75 help from people and the larger community wherever possible.</p>
  76
  77 <p>I don't see any disadvantage to use Skolelinux apart from the fact
  78 that most apps. are generic which is good or bad how you see it.
  79 However, saying that I do acknowledge the fact that the canvas is
  80 pretty big and there are lot of interesting ideas that could be done
  81 but for reasons not known not done or if done I don't know about them.
  82 Let me share some of the ideas (these are more upstream based but
  83 still) I have had for a long time :</p>
  84
  85 <p>1. Classical maths question of two trains in opposing directions
  86 each running @x kmph/mph at y distance, when they will meet and how
  87 far would each travel and similar questions like these.
  88
  89 <p>The computer is a fantastic system where questions like these can
  90 be drawn, animated and the methodology and answers teased out in
  91 interactive manner. While sites such as the
  92 <a href="http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.two.trains.html">Ask
  93 Dr. Math FAQ on The Two Trains problem</a> (as an example or point of
  94 inspiration) can be used there is lot more that can be done.  I dunno
  95 if there is a free software which does something like this.  The idea
  96 being a blend of objects + animation + interaction which does
  97 this. The whole interaction could be gamified with points or sounds or
  98 colourful celebration whenever the user gets even part of the question
  99 or/and methodology right. That would help reinforce good behaviour.
 100 This understanding could be used to share/showcase everything from how
 101 the first wheel came to be, to evolution to how astronomy started,
 102 psychics and everything in-between.</p>
 103
 104 <p>One specific idea in the train part was having the Linux mascot on
 105 one train and the BSD or GNU mascot on the other train and they
 106 meeting somewhere in-between. Characters from blender movies could
 107 also be used.</p>
 108
 109 <p>2. Loads of crossword-puzzles with reference to subjects: We have
 110 enormous data sets in Wikipedia and Wikitionary.  I don't think it
 111 should be a big job to design crossword puzzles. Using categories and
 112 sub-categories it should be doable to have Q&A single word answers
 113 from the existing data-sets. What would make it easy or hard could be
 114 the length of the word + existence of many or few vowels depending on
 115 the user's input.</p>
 116
 117 <p>3. Jigsaw puzzles - We already have a great software called
 118 palapeli with number of slicers making it pretty interesting. What
 119 needs to be done is to download large number of public domain and
 120 copyleft images, tease and use IPTC tags to categorise them into
 121 nature, history etc.  and let it loose. This could turn to be really
 122 huge collection of images. One source could be taken from
 123 commons.wikimedia.org, others could be huge collection of royalty-free
 124 stock photos. Potential is immense.</p>
 125
 126 <p>Apart from this, free software suffers in two directions, we lag
 127 both in development (of using new features per-se) and maintenance a
 128 lot.  This is more so in educational software as these applications
 129 need to be timely and the opportunity cost of missing deadlines is
 130 immense. If we are able to solve issues of funding for development and
 131 maintenance of such software I don't see any big difficulties. I know
 132 of few start-ups in and around India who would love to develop and
 133 maintain such software if funding issues could be solved.</p>
 134
 135 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?</strong></p>
 136
 137 <p>That would be huge list. Some of the softwares are obviously apt,
 138 aptitude, debdelta, leafpad, the shell of course (zsh nowadays),
 139 quassel for IRC. In games I use shisen-sho while card-games are evenly
 140 between kpat and Aiselriot.  In desktops it's a tie between
 141 gnome-flashback and mate.</p>
 142
 143 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
 144 get schools to use free software?</strong></p>
 145
 146 <p>I think it should first start with using specific FOSS apps. in
 147 whatever environment they are. If it's MS-Windows or Mac so be it.
 148 Once they are habitual with the apps. and there is buy-in from the
 149 school management then it could be installed anywhere. Most of the
 150 people now understand the concept of a repository because of the
 151 various online stores so it isn't hard to convince on that front.</p>
 152
 153 <p>What is harder is having enough people with technical skills and
 154 passion to service them. If you get buy-in from one or two teachers
 155 then ideas like above could also be asked to be done as a project as
 156 well.</p>
 157
 158 <p>I think where we fall short more than anything is in marketing. For
 159 instance, Debian has this whole range of fonts in its archive but
 160 there isn't even a page where all those different fonts in the La
 161 Ipsum format could be tried out for newcomers.</p>
 162
 163 <p>One of the issues faced constantly in installations is with updates
 164 and upgrades.  People have this myth that each update and upgrade
 165 means the user interface will / has to change. I have seen this
 166 innumerable times.  That perhaps is one of the reasons which browsers
 167 like Iceweasel / Firefox change user interfaces so much, not because
 168 it might be needed or be functional but because people believe that
 169 changed user interfaces are better. This, can easily be pointed with
 170 the user interfaces changed with almost every MS-Windows and Mac OS
 171 releases.</p>
 172
 173 <p>The problems with Debian Edu for deployment are many. The biggest
 174 is the huge gap between what is taught in schools and what Debian Edu
 175 is aimed at.
 176
 177 <p>Me and my friends did teach on week-ends in a government school for
 178 around 2 years, and
 179 <a href="https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2012/10/08/sharings/">gathered
 180 some experience</a> there.  Some of the things we learnt/discovered
 181 there was :</p>
 182
 183 <ol>
 184
 185   <li>Most of the teachers are very territorial about their subjects
 186    and they do not want you to teach anything out of the
 187    portion/syllabus given.</li>
 188
 189   <li>They want any activity on the system in accordance to whatever
 190    is in the syllabus.</li>
 191
 192   <li>There are huge barriers both with the English language and at
 193    times with objects or whatever. An example, let's say in gcompris
 194    you have objects falling down and you have to name them and let's
 195    say the falling object is a hat or a fedora hat, this would not be
 196    as recognizable as say a
 197    <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puneri_Pagadi">Puneri
 198    Pagdi</a> so there is need to inject local objects, words wherever
 199    possible. Especially for word-games there are so many hindi words
 200    which have become part of english vocabulary (for instance in
 201    parley), those could be made into a hinglish collection or
 202    something but that is something for upstream to do.</li>
 203
 204 </ol>
 205 </div>
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 207       <div class="tags">Tags: <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju</a>.</div>
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 511 <ul>
 512
 513 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/01/">January (11)</a></li>
 514
 515 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/02/">February (9)</a></li>
 516
 517 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/03/">March (9)</a></li>
 518
 519 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/04/">April (6)</a></li>
 520
 521 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/05/">May (9)</a></li>
 522
 523 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/06/">June (10)</a></li>
 524
 525 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/07/">July (7)</a></li>
 526
 527 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/08/">August (3)</a></li>
 528
 529 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/09/">September (5)</a></li>
 530
 531 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/10/">October (7)</a></li>
 532
 533 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/11/">November (9)</a></li>
 534
 535 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2013/12/">December (3)</a></li>
 536
 537 </ul></li>
 538
 539 <li>2012
 540 <ul>
 541
 542 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/01/">January (7)</a></li>
 543
 544 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/02/">February (10)</a></li>
 545
 546 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/03/">March (17)</a></li>
 547
 548 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/04/">April (12)</a></li>
 549
 550 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/05/">May (12)</a></li>
 551
 552 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/06/">June (20)</a></li>
 553
 554 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/07/">July (17)</a></li>
 555
 556 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/08/">August (6)</a></li>
 557
 558 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/09/">September (9)</a></li>
 559
 560 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/10/">October (17)</a></li>
 561
 562 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/11/">November (10)</a></li>
 563
 564 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2012/12/">December (7)</a></li>
 565
 566 </ul></li>
 567
 568 <li>2011
 569 <ul>
 570
 571 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/01/">January (16)</a></li>
 572
 573 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/02/">February (6)</a></li>
 574
 575 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/03/">March (6)</a></li>
 576
 577 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/04/">April (7)</a></li>
 578
 579 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/05/">May (3)</a></li>
 580
 581 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/06/">June (2)</a></li>
 582
 583 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/07/">July (7)</a></li>
 584
 585 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/08/">August (6)</a></li>
 586
 587 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/09/">September (4)</a></li>
 588
 589 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/10/">October (2)</a></li>
 590
 591 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/11/">November (3)</a></li>
 592
 593 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2011/12/">December (1)</a></li>
 594
 595 </ul></li>
 596
 597 <li>2010
 598 <ul>
 599
 600 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/01/">January (2)</a></li>
 601
 602 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/02/">February (1)</a></li>
 603
 604 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/03/">March (3)</a></li>
 605
 606 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/04/">April (3)</a></li>
 607
 608 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/05/">May (9)</a></li>
 609
 610 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/06/">June (14)</a></li>
 611
 612 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/07/">July (12)</a></li>
 613
 614 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/08/">August (13)</a></li>
 615
 616 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/09/">September (7)</a></li>
 617
 618 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/10/">October (9)</a></li>
 619
 620 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/11/">November (13)</a></li>
 621
 622 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2010/12/">December (12)</a></li>
 623
 624 </ul></li>
 625
 626 <li>2009
 627 <ul>
 628
 629 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/01/">January (8)</a></li>
 630
 631 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/02/">February (8)</a></li>
 632
 633 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/03/">March (12)</a></li>
 634
 635 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/04/">April (10)</a></li>
 636
 637 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/05/">May (9)</a></li>
 638
 639 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/06/">June (3)</a></li>
 640
 641 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/07/">July (4)</a></li>
 642
 643 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/08/">August (3)</a></li>
 644
 645 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/09/">September (1)</a></li>
 646
 647 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/10/">October (2)</a></li>
 648
 649 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/11/">November (3)</a></li>
 650
 651 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2009/12/">December (3)</a></li>
 652
 653 </ul></li>
 654
 655 <li>2008
 656 <ul>
 657
 658 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2008/11/">November (5)</a></li>
 659
 660 <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/archive/2008/12/">December (7)</a></li>
 661
 662 </ul></li>
 663
 664 </ul>
 665
 666
 667
 668 <h2>Tags</h2>
 669 <ul>
 670
 671  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/3d-printer">3d-printer (19)</a></li>
 672
 673  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/amiga">amiga (1)</a></li>
 674
 675  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/aros">aros (1)</a></li>
 676
 677  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/bankid">bankid (4)</a></li>
 678
 679  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/betalkontant">betalkontant (9)</a></li>
 680
 681  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/bitcoin">bitcoin (13)</a></li>
 682
 683  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem (17)</a></li>
 684
 685  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/bsa">bsa (2)</a></li>
 686
 687  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/chrpath">chrpath (3)</a></li>
 688
 689  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian">debian (209)</a></li>
 690
 691  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu (159)</a></li>
 692
 693  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/debian-handbook">debian-handbook (9)</a></li>
 694
 695  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/digistan">digistan (11)</a></li>
 696
 697  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/dld">dld (18)</a></li>
 698
 699  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/docbook">docbook (33)</a></li>
 700
 701  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/drivstoffpriser">drivstoffpriser (4)</a></li>
 702
 703  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/english">english (471)</a></li>
 704
 705  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/fiksgatami">fiksgatami (23)</a></li>
 706
 707  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/fildeling">fildeling (14)</a></li>
 708
 709  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/freeculture">freeculture (34)</a></li>
 710
 711  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/freedombox">freedombox (9)</a></li>
 712
 713  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/frikanalen">frikanalen (20)</a></li>
 714
 715  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/h264">h264 (20)</a></li>
 716
 717  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju (43)</a></li>
 718
 719  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/isenkram">isenkram (21)</a></li>
 720
 721  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/kart">kart (23)</a></li>
 722
 723  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/kodi">kodi (6)</a></li>
 724
 725  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap (9)</a></li>
 726
 727  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/lego">lego (5)</a></li>
 728
 729  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/lenker">lenker (8)</a></li>
 730
 731  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/linuxcnc">linuxcnc (8)</a></li>
 732
 733  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/lsdvd">lsdvd (3)</a></li>
 734
 735  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/ltsp">ltsp (1)</a></li>
 736
 737  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/madewithcc">madewithcc (3)</a></li>
 738
 739  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/mesh network">mesh network (8)</a></li>
 740
 741  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia (48)</a></li>
 742
 743  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/nice free software">nice free software (15)</a></li>
 744
 745  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/noark5">noark5 (27)</a></li>
 746
 747  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk (326)</a></li>
 748
 749  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug (200)</a></li>
 750
 751  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/offentlig innsyn">offentlig innsyn (42)</a></li>
 752
 753  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/open311">open311 (2)</a></li>
 754
 755  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/opensnitch">opensnitch (4)</a></li>
 756
 757  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett (76)</a></li>
 758
 759  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern (114)</a></li>
 760
 761  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/raid">raid (4)</a></li>
 762
 763  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/reactos">reactos (1)</a></li>
 764
 765  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/reprap">reprap (11)</a></li>
 766
 767  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/rfid">rfid (3)</a></li>
 768
 769  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/robot">robot (17)</a></li>
 770
 771  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/rss">rss (1)</a></li>
 772
 773  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/ruter">ruter (7)</a></li>
 774
 775  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/scraperwiki">scraperwiki (2)</a></li>
 776
 777  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet (60)</a></li>
 778
 779  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary (4)</a></li>
 780
 781  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/skepsis">skepsis (5)</a></li>
 782
 783  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/standard">standard (80)</a></li>
 784
 785  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll (7)</a></li>
 786
 787  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/stortinget">stortinget (14)</a></li>
 788
 789  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/surveillance">surveillance (65)</a></li>
 790
 791  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/sysadmin">sysadmin (6)</a></li>
 792
 793  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/usenix">usenix (2)</a></li>
 794
 795  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/valg">valg (9)</a></li>
 796
 797  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/verkidetfri">verkidetfri (23)</a></li>
 798
 799  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/video">video (82)</a></li>
 800
 801  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/vitenskap">vitenskap (4)</a></li>
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 803  <li><a href="http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/web">web (42)</a></li>
 804
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