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23 <div class=
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24 <div class=
"date">13th May
2012</div>
25 <div class=
"body"><p>It has been a few busy weeks for me, but I am finally back to
26 publish another interview with the people behind
27 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a>.
28 This time it is one of our German developers, who have helped out over the
29 years to make sure both a lot of major but also a lot of the minor
30 details get right before release.
32 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
34 <p>My name is Jürgen Leibner, I'm
49 years old and living in
35 Bielefeld, a town in northern Germany. I worked nearly
20 years as
36 certified engineer in the department for plant design and layout of an
37 international company for machinery and equipment. Since
2011 I'm a
38 certified technical writer (tekom e.V.) and doing technical
39 documentations for a steam turbine manufacturer. From April this year
40 I will manage the department of technical documentation at a
41 manufacturer of automation and assembly line engineering.
</p>
43 <p>My first contact with linux was around
1993. Since that time I used
44 it at work and at home repeatedly but not exclusively as I do now at
47 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
50 <p>Once a day in the early year of
2001 when I wanted to fetch my
51 daughter from primary school, there was a teacher sitting in the
52 middle of
20 old computers trying to boot them and he failed. I helped
53 him to get them booting. That was seen by the school director and she
54 asked me if I would like to manage that the school gets all that old
55 computers in use. I answered: "Yes".
</p>
57 <p>Some weeks later every of the
10 classrooms had one computer
58 running Windows98. I began to collect old computers and equipment as
59 gifts and installed the first computer room with a peer-to-peer
60 network. I did my work at school without being payed in my spare time
61 and with a lot of fun. About one year later the school was connected
62 to Internet and a local area network was installed in the school
63 building. That was the time to have a server and I knew it must be a
64 Linux server to be able to fulfil all the wishes of the teachers and
65 being able to do this in a transparent and economic way, without extra
66 costs for things like licence and software. So I searched for a
67 school server system running under Linux and I found a couple of
68 people nearby who founded 'skolelinux.de'. It was the Skolelinux
69 prerelease
32 I first tried out for being used at the school. I
70 managed the IT of that school until the municipal authority took over
71 the IT management and centralised the services for all schools in
72 Bielefeld in December of
2006.
</p>
74 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
77 <p>When I'm looking back to the beginning, there were other advantages
80 <p>In the past there were advantages like:
</p>
84 <li>I don't need to buy it so it generates no costs to the school as
85 they had little money to spent for computers and software.
</li>
87 <li>It has a licence which grands all rights to use it without
90 <li>It was more able to fit all requirements of a server system for
91 schools than a Microsoft server system, even if there are only Windows
92 clients because of it's preconfigured overall concept of being a
93 infrastructure solution and community for schools, not only a
96 <li>I was able to configure the server to the needs of the
101 <p>Today some of the advantages has been lost, changed or new ones
102 came up in this way:
</p>
106 <li>Most schools here do have money to buy hardware and software
109 <li>They are today mostly managed from central IT departments which
110 have own concepts which often do not fit to Debian Edu concepts
111 because they are to close to Microsoft ideology.
</li>
113 <li>With the Squeeze version of Debian Edu which now uses GOsa² for
114 management I feel more able to manage the daily tasks than with the
115 interfaces used in the past.
</li>
117 <li>It is more modular than in the past and fits even better to the
118 different needs.
</li>
120 <li>The documentation is usable and gets better every day.
</li>
122 <li>More people than ever before are using Debian Edu all over the
123 world and so the community, which is an very important part I think,
124 is sharing knowledge and minds.
</li>
126 <li>Most, maybe all, of the technical requirements for schools are
127 solved today by Debian Edu.
</li>
131 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
136 <li>There are too few IT companies able to integrate Debian Edu into
137 their product portfolio for serving schools with concepts or even
138 whole municipality areas.
</li>
140 <li>Debian Edu has beside other free and open software projects not
141 enough lobbyists which promote free and open software to
144 <li>Technically there are no disadvantages I'm aware of.
</li>
148 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
150 <p>I use Debian stable on my home server and on my little desktop
151 computer. On my laptop I use Debian testing/sid. The applications I
152 use on my laptop and my desktop are Open/Libre-office, Iceweasel,
153 KMail, DigiKam, Amarok, Dolphin, okular and all the other programs I
154 need from the KDE environment. On console I use newsbeuter, mutt,
155 screen, irssi and all the other famous and useful tools.
</p>
157 <p>My home server provides mail services with exim, dovecot, roundcube
158 and mutt over ssh on the console, file services with samba, NFS,
159 rsync, web services with apache, moinmoin-wiki, multimedia services
160 with gallery2 and mediatomb and database services with MySQL for me
161 and the whole family. I probably forgot something.
</p>
163 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
164 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
166 <p>I believe, we should provide concepts for IT companies to integrate
167 Debian Edu into their product portfolio with use cases for different
168 countries and areas all over the world.
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643 <li><a href=
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645 <li><a href=
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647 <li><a href=
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3)
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653 <li><a href=
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209)
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655 <li><a href=
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159)
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657 <li><a href=
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9)
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659 <li><a href=
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11)
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661 <li><a href=
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18)
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663 <li><a href=
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33)
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665 <li><a href=
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4)
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667 <li><a href=
"http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/english">english (
471)
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669 <li><a href=
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23)
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671 <li><a href=
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14)
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673 <li><a href=
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34)
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675 <li><a href=
"http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/freedombox">freedombox (
9)
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677 <li><a href=
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20)
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679 <li><a href=
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20)
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681 <li><a href=
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43)
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683 <li><a href=
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21)
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685 <li><a href=
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23)
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687 <li><a href=
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6)
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689 <li><a href=
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9)
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691 <li><a href=
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5)
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693 <li><a href=
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8)
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695 <li><a href=
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8)
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697 <li><a href=
"http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/lsdvd">lsdvd (
3)
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699 <li><a href=
"http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/ltsp">ltsp (
1)
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701 <li><a href=
"http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/madewithcc">madewithcc (
3)
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703 <li><a href=
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8)
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705 <li><a href=
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48)
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707 <li><a href=
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15)
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709 <li><a href=
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27)
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711 <li><a href=
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326)
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713 <li><a href=
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200)
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715 <li><a href=
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42)
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717 <li><a href=
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2)
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719 <li><a href=
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4)
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721 <li><a href=
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76)
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723 <li><a href=
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114)
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725 <li><a href=
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4)
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727 <li><a href=
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1)
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729 <li><a href=
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11)
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731 <li><a href=
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3)
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733 <li><a href=
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17)
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735 <li><a href=
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1)
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737 <li><a href=
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7)
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739 <li><a href=
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2)
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741 <li><a href=
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60)
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743 <li><a href=
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4)
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745 <li><a href=
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5)
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747 <li><a href=
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80)
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749 <li><a href=
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751 <li><a href=
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14)
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753 <li><a href=
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65)
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755 <li><a href=
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6)
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757 <li><a href=
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2)
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759 <li><a href=
"http://www.hungry.com/~pere/blog/tags/valg">valg (
9)
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761 <li><a href=
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23)
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763 <li><a href=
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82)
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765 <li><a href=
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4)
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767 <li><a href=
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42)
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