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15 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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23 <div class="title">Mer oppfølging fra MPEG-LA om avtale med dem for å kringkaste og publisere H.264-video</div>
24 <div class="date"> 5th July 2012</div>
25 <div class="body"><p>I føljetongen om H.264
26 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/MPEG_LA_mener_NRK_m__ha_avtale_med_dem_for___kringkaste_og_publisere_H_264_video.html">forlot
27 jeg leserne i undring</a> om hvor pakken fra MPEG-LA tok veien, og om
28 hvilke selskaper i Norge som har avtale med MPEG-LA. Da Ryan hos
29 MPEG-LA dro på ferie sendte jeg min melding videre til hans kollega,
30 og dagen etter fikk jeg følgende svar derfra:</p>
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32 <p><blockquote>
33 <p>Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:32:34 +0000
34 <br>From: Sidney Wolf &lt;SWolf (at) mpegla.com&gt;
35 <br>To: Petter Reinholdtsen &lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
36 <br>Cc: Ryan Rodriguez &lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&gt;
37 <br>Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
38
39 <p>Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,</p>
40
41 <p>Thank you for your message. As you know, Ryan is currently our of the
42 office, so it will be my pleasure to assist you.</p>
43
44 <p>Per your request, attached please find an electronic copy of the
45 AVC Patent Portfolio License. Please note that the electronic copy of
46 the License is provided as a convenience and for informational
47 purposes only. When concluding the Licenses, only the hard copies
48 provided by MPEG LA may be used.</p>
49
50 <p>To your question, MPEG LA lists our Licensees on our website
51 according to each program. The lists are in alphabetical order, so it
52 is very easy to search.</p>
53
54 <p>I hope that this was helpful. If we can be of additional
55 assistance, please let me know.</p>
56
57 <p>Kind regards,</p>
58
59 <p>Sidney A. Wolf
60 <br>Manager, Global Licensing
61 <br>MPEG LA</p>
62 </blockquote></p>
63
64 <p>Selv om et epostvedlegg er nyttig for mottakeren, så håpet jeg å få
65 et dokument jeg kunne dele med alle leserne av bloggen min, og ikke et
66 som må deles på individuell basis. Opphavsretten krever godkjenning
67 fra rettighetsinnehaver før en kan gjøre slikt, så dermed fulgte jeg
68 opp med et spørsmål om dette var greit.</p>
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70 <p><blockquote>
71 <p>Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 20:25:06 +0200
72 <br>From: Petter Reinholdtsen &lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
73 <br>To: Sidney Wolf &lt;SWolf (at) mpegla.com&gt;
74 <br>Cc: Ryan Rodriguez &lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&gt;
75 <br>Subject: Re: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
76
77 <p>Thank you for your reply.</p>
78
79 <p>[Sidney Wolf]
80 <br>&gt; Per your request, attached please find an electronic copy of the AVC
81 <br>&gt; Patent Portfolio License. Please note that the electronic copy of
82 <br>&gt; the License is provided as a convenience and for informational
83 <br>&gt; purposes only. When concluding the Licenses, only the hard copies
84 <br>&gt; provided by MPEG LA may be used.</p>
85
86 <p>This is useful for me to learn, but the reason I asked for the
87 Internet address of the licensing document was to ensure I could
88 publish a link to it when I discuss the topic of H.264 licensing here
89 in Norway, and allow others to verify my observations. I can not do
90 the same with an email attachment. Thus I would like to ask you if it
91 is OK with MPEG LA that I publish this document on the Internet for
92 others to read?</p>
93
94 <p>&gt; To your question, MPEG LA lists our Licensees on our website
95 <br>&gt; according to each program. The lists are in alphabetical order, so
96 <br>&gt; it is very easy to search.</p>
97
98 <p>I am afraid this do not help me locate Norwegian companies in the
99 list of Licensees. I do not know the name of all companies and
100 organisations in Norway, and thus do not know how to locate the
101 Norwegian ones on that list.</p>
102
103 <p>&gt; I hope that this was helpful. If we can be of additional assistance,
104 <br>&gt; please let me know.</p>
105
106 <p>Absoutely helpful to learn more about how MPEG LA handle licensing.</p>
107
108 <p>--
109 <br>Happy hacking
110 <br>Petter Reinholdtsen</p>
111 </blockquote></p>
112
113 <p>Jeg håpet også at det skulle være mulig å få vite hvilke av de
114 mange hundre som har avtale med MPEG-LA om bruk av H.264 som holdt til
115 i Norge. Begge mine håp falt i grus med svaret fra MPEG-LA.
116
117 <p><blockquote>
118 <p>Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:42:39 +0000
119 <br>From: Sidney Wolf &lt;SWolf (at) mpegla.com&gt;
120 <br>To: 'Petter Reinholdtsen' &lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
121 <br>Cc: Ryan Rodriguez &lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&gt;
122 <br>Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
123
124 <p>Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,</p>
125
126 <p>Thank you for your reply.</p>
127
128 <p>We appreciate the additional explanation you have provided and for
129 asking our permission to publish the electronic copy of the License in
130 advance of doing so. Typically, MPEG LA prefers to distribute the
131 electronic copies of our Licenses to interested parties. Therefore,
132 please feel free to send interested parties to the AVC portion of our
133 website, http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Intro.aspx for
134 their further reference.</p>
135
136 <p>As previously mentioned, MPEG LA maintains a list of Licensees in good
137 standing on our website according to each program. Due to the large
138 volume of Licensees, it would be administratively impractical to
139 provide this level of detail to interested parties. Therefore, I am
140 afraid we are not in a position to assist you with your request.</p>
141
142 <p>Kind regards,</p>
143
144 <p>Sidney A. Wolf
145 <br>Manager, Global Licensing
146 <br>MPEG LA</p>
147 </blockquote></p>
148
149 <p>Men takket være epostvedlegget kunne jeg søke på Google etter
150 setningen "WHEREAS, a video standard commonly referred to as AVC has
151 been defined and is referred to in this Agreement as the “AVC
152 Standard” (as more fully defined herein below)" som finnes i avtalen,
153 og lokalisere en kopi fra 2007 av
154 <a href="http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1342960/000119312509050004/dex1024.htm">lisensavtalen
155 mellom MPEG-LA og DivX, Inc.</a>, slik at mine lesere kan se hvordan
156 avtalen så ut da. Jeg har ikke sammenlignet tekstene for å se om noe
157 har endret seg siden den tid, men satser på at teksten er representativ.</p>
158
159 <p>Jeg aner fortsatt ikke hvor FedEx tok veien med pakken fra
160 MPEG-LA.</p>
161
162 <p>Update 2012-07-06: Jeg er visst ikke den første som forsøker å få
163 klarhet i problemstillinger rundt H.264, og kom nettopp over en veldig
164 interessant bloggpost fra 2010 hos LibreVideo med tittelen
165 "<a href="http://www.librevideo.org/blog/2010/06/14/mpeg-la-answers-some-questions-about-avch-264-licensing/">MPEG-LA
166 answers some questions about AVC/H.264 licensing</a>. Anbefales!</p>
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