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  15      <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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  23       <div class="title">Debian Edu interview: Klaus Knopper</div>
  24       <div class="date"> 6th December 2013</div>
  25       <div class="body"><p>It has been a while since I managed to publish the last interview,
  26 but the <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu /
  27 Skolelinux</a> community is still going strong, and yesterday we even
  28 had a new school administrator show up on
  29 <a href="irc://irc.debian.org/#debian-edu">#debian-edu</a> to share
  30 his success story with installing Debian Edu at their school.  This
  31 time I have been able to get some helpful comments from the creator of
  32 Knoppix, Klaus Knopper, who was involved in a Skolelinux project in
  33 Germany a few years ago.</p>
  34
  35 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?</strong></p>
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  37 <p>I am Klaus Knopper.  I have a master degree in electrical
  38 engineering, and is currently professor in information management at
  39 the university of applied sciences Kaiserslautern / Germany and
  40 freelance Open Source software developer and consultant.</p>
  41
  42 <p>All of this is pretty much of the work I spend my days with. Apart
  43 from teaching, I'm also conducting some more or less experimental
  44 projects like the <a href="http://www.knoppix.org">Knoppix GNU/Linux live
  45 system</a> (Debian-based like Skolelinux),
  46 <a href="http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-adriane/index-en.html">ADRIANE</a>
  47 (a blind-friendly talking desktop system) and
  48 <a href="http://www.knopper.net/linbo/index-en.html">LINBO</a>
  49 (Linux-based network boot console, a fast remote install and repair
  50 system supporting various operating systems).</p>
  51
  52 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
  53 project?</strong></p>
  54
  55 <p>The credit for this have to go to Kurt Gramlich, who is the German
  56 coordinator for Skolelinux.  We were looking for an all-in-one open
  57 source community-supported distribution for schools, and Kurt
  58 introduced us to Skolelinux for this purpose.</p>
  59
  60 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
  61 Edu?</strong></p>
  62
  63 <ul>
  64   <li>Quick installation,</li>
  65   <li>works (almost) out of the box,</li>
  66   <li>contains many useful software packages for teaching and learning,</li>
  67   <li>is a purely community-based distro and not controlled by a
  68     single company,</li>
  69   <li>has a large number of supporters and teachers who share their
  70     experience and problem solutions.</li>
  71 </ul>
  72
  73 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
  74 Edu?</strong></p>
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  76 <ul>
  77   <li>Skolelinux is - as we had to learn - not easily upgradable to
  78   the next version.  Opposed to its genuine Debian base, upgrading to
  79   a new version means a full new installation from scratch to get it
  80   working again reliably.
  81
  82   <li>Skolelinux is based on Debian/stable, and therefore always a
  83   little outdated in terms of program versions compared to Edubuntu or
  84   similar educational Linux distros, which rather use Debian/testing
  85   as their base.
  86
  87   <li>Skolelinux has some very self-opinionated and stubborn default
  88   configuration which in my opinion adds unnecessary complexity and is
  89   not always suitable for a schools needs, the preset network
  90   configuration is actually a core definition feature of Skolelinux
  91   and not easy to change, so schools sometimes have to change their
  92   network configuration to make it "Skolelinux-compatible".
  93
  94   <li>Some proposed extensions, which were made available as
  95   contribution, like secure examination mode and lecture material
  96   distribution and collection, were not accepted into the mainline
  97   Skolelinux development and are now not easy to maintain in the
  98   future because of Skolelinux somewhat undeterministic update
  99   schemes.</li>
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 101   <li>Skolelinux has only a very tiny number of base developers
 102   compared to Debian.</li>
 103
 104 </ul>
 105
 106 <p>For these reasons and experience from our project, I would now
 107 rather consider using plain Debian for schools next time, until
 108 Skolelinux is more closely integrated into Debian and becomes
 109 upgradeable without reinstallation.</p>
 110
 111 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?</strong></p>
 112
 113 <p>GNU/Linux with LXDE desktop, bash for interactive dialog and
 114 programming, texlive for documentation and correspondence,
 115 occasionally LibreOffice for document format conversion. Various
 116 programming languages for teaching.</p>
 117
 118 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
 119 get schools to use free software?</strong></p>
 120
 121 <p>Strong arguments are</p>
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 123 <ul>
 124
 125   <li>Knowledge is free, and so should be methods and tools for
 126     teaching and learning.</li>
 127
 128   <li>Students can learn with and use the same software at school, at
 129     home, and at their working place without running into license or
 130     conversion problems.</li>
 131
 132   <li>Closed source or proprietary software hides knowledge rather
 133     than exposing it, and proprietary software vendors try to bind
 134     customers to certain products.  But teachers need to teach
 135     science, not products.</li>
 136
 137   <li>If you have everything you for daily work as open source, what
 138     would you need proprietary software for?</li>
 139
 140 </ul>
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 143       <div class="tags">Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju</a>.</div>
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