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4 <title>Petter Reinholdtsen
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10 <title>The Thinkpad is dead, long live the Thinkpad X230?
</title>
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13 <pubDate>Fri,
5 Jul
2013 08:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
14 <description><p
>Half a year ago, I reported that I had to find a
15 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Thank_you_Thinkpad_X41__for_your_long_and_trustworthy_service.html
">replacement
16 for my trusty old Thinkpad X41
</a
>. Unfortunately I did not have much
17 time to spend on it, and it took a while to find a model I believe
18 will do the job, but two days ago the replacement finally arrived. I
20 <a href=
"http://www.linlap.com/lenovo_thinkpad_x230
">Thinkpad X230
</a
>
21 with SSD disk (NZDAJMN). I first test installed Debian Edu Wheezy as
22 a roaming workstation, and it seemed to work flawlessly. But my
23 second installation with encrypted disk was not as successful. More
24 on that below.
</p
>
26 <p
>I had a hard time trying to track down a good laptop, as my most
27 important requirements (robust and with a good keyboard) are never
28 listed in the feature list. But I did get good help from the search
29 feature at
<a href=
"http://www.prisjakt.no/
">Prisjakt
</a
>, which
30 allowed me to limit the list of interesting laptops based on my other
31 requirements. A bit surprising that SSD disk are not disks according
32 to that search interface, so I had to drop specifying the number of
33 disks from my search parameters. I also asked around among friends to
34 get their impression on keyboards and robustness.
</p
>
36 <p
>So the new laptop arrived, and it is quite a lot wider than the
37 X41. I am not quite convinced about the keyboard, as it is
38 significantly wider than my old keyboard, and I have to stretch my
39 hand a lot more to reach the edges. But the key response is fairly
40 good and the individual key shape is fairly easy to handle, so I hope
41 I will get used to it. My old X40 was starting to fail, and I really
42 needed a new laptop now. :)
</p
>
44 <p
>Turning off the touch pad was simple. All it took was a quick
45 visit to the BIOS during boot it disable it.
</p
>
47 <p
>But there is a fatal problem with the laptop. The
180 GB SSD disk
48 lock up during load. And this happen when installing Debian Wheezy
49 with encrypted disk, while the disk is being filled with random data.
50 I also tested to install Ubuntu Raring, and it happen there too if I
51 reenable the code to fill the disk with random data (it is disabled by
52 default in Ubuntu). And the bug with is already known. It was
53 reported to Debian as
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
691427">BTS
54 report #
691427 2012-
10-
25</a
> (journal commit I/O error on brand-new
55 Thinkpad T430s ext4 on lvm on SSD). It is also reported to the Linux
57 <a href=
"https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=
51861">Kernel bugzilla
58 report #
51861 2012-
12-
20</a
> (Intel SSD
520 stops working under load
59 (SSDSC2BW180A3L in Lenovo ThinkPad T430s)). It is also reported on the
60 Lenovo forums, both for
61 <a href=
"http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/T400-T500-and-newer-T-series/T430s-Intel-SSD-
520-
180GB-issue/m-p/
1070549">T430
62 2012-
11-
10</a
> and for
63 <a href=
"http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/x230-SATA-errors-with-
180GB-Intel-
520-SSD-under-heavy-write-load/m-p/
1068147">X230
64 03-
20-
2013</a
>. The problem do not only affect installation. The
65 reports state that the disk lock up during use if many writes are done
66 on the disk, so it is much no use to work around the installation
67 problem and end up with a computer that can lock up at any moment.
69 <a href=
"https://git.efficios.com/?p=test-ssd.git
">small C program
70 available
</a
> that will lock up the hard drive after running a few
71 minutes by writing to a file.
</p
>
73 <p
>I
've contacted my supplier and asked how to handle this, and after
74 contacting PCHELP Norway (request
01D1FDP) which handle support
75 requests for Lenovo, his first suggestion was to upgrade the disk
76 firmware. Unfortunately there is no newer firmware available from
77 Lenovo, as my disk already have the most recent one (version LF1i). I
78 hope to hear more from him today and hope the problem can be
84 <title>Fourth alpha release of Debian Edu/Skolelinux based on Debian Wheezy
</title>
85 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Fourth_alpha_release_of_Debian_Edu_Skolelinux_based_on_Debian_Wheezy.html
</link>
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87 <pubDate>Wed,
3 Jul
2013 14:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
88 <description><p
>The fourth wheezy based alpha release of Debian Edu was wrapped up
89 today. This is the release announcement:
</p
>
91 <p
><strong
>New features for Debian Edu
7.1+edu0~alpha3 released
92 2013-
07-
03</strong
></p
>
94 <p
>These are the release notes for for Debian Edu / Skolelinux
95 7.1+edu0~alpha3, based on Debian with codename
"Wheezy
".
</p
>
97 <p
><strong
>About Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</strong
></p
>
99 <p
><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu, also known as
100 Skolelinux
</a
>, is a Linux distribution based on Debian providing an
101 out-of-the box environment of a completely configured school
102 network. Immediately after installation a school server running all
103 services needed for a school network is set up just waiting for users
104 and machines being added via GOsa², a comfortable Web-UI. A netbooting
105 environment is prepared using PXE, so after initial installation of
106 the main server from CD, DVD or USB stick all other machines can be
107 installed via the network. The provided school server provides LDAP
108 database and Kerberos authentication service, centralized home
109 directories, DHCP server, web proxy and many other services. The
111 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Educational_applications_included_in_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux__the_screenshot_collection____.html
">more
112 than
60 educational software packages
</a
> and more are available from
113 the Debian archive, and schools can choose between KDE, Gnome, LXDE
114 and Xfce desktop environment.
</p
>
116 <p
>This is the fourth test release based on Debian Wheezy. Basically
117 this is an updated and slightly improved version compared to the
118 Squeeze release.
</p
>
120 <p
><strong
>Software updates
</strong
></p
>
122 <li
>Dropped ispell dictionaries from our default installation.
</li
>
123 <li
>Dropped menu-xdg from the KDE desktop option, to drop the Debian
124 submenu. It was not included with Gnome, LXDE or Xfce, so this
125 brings KDE in line with the others.
</li
>
126 <li
>Dropped xdrawchem, xjig and xsok from our default installation as
127 they don
't have a desktop menu entry and thus won
't show up in the
128 menu now that menu-xdg was removed.
</li
>
129 <li
>Removed the killer system to kill left behind processes on
130 multi-user machines, as it was no longer able to understand when a
131 X display was in use and killed the processes of the active users
133 <li
>Dropped the golearn (from goplay) package as the debtags in wheezy
134 are too few to make the package useful.
</li
>
136 <p
><strong
>Other changes
</strong
></p
>
138 <li
>Updated artwork matching http://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes/Joy
139 <li
>Multi-arch i386/amd64 USB stick ISO available.
</li
>
140 <li
>Got rid of ispell/wordlist related debconf questions that showed
141 up for some language options.
</li
>
142 <li
>Switched to using http.debian.net as APT source by default.
</li
>
143 <li
>Fixed proxy configuration on Main Server installations.
</li
>
144 <li
>Changed LTSP setup to ask dpkg to use force-unsafe-io the same way
145 d-i is doing it.
</li
>
146 <li
>Made sure root and user passwords were not left behind in the
147 debconf database after installation on Main Server installations.
</li
>
148 <li
>Made Roaming Workstation dynamic setup more robust and added draft
149 script setup-ad-client to hook a Roaming Workstation up to a
150 Active Directory server instead of a Debian Edu Main Server.
</li
>
151 <li
>Update system to install needed firmware packages during
152 installation, to work properly in Wheezy.
</li
>
153 <li
>Update system to handle hardware quirks (debian-edu-hwsetup).
</li
>
154 <li
>Corrected PXE installation setup to properly pass selected desktop
155 and keymap settings to PXE installation clients.
</li
>
156 <li
>LTSP diskless workstations use sshfs by default, allowing them to
157 work without adding them to DNS and NIS netgroups for NFS access.
</li
>
159 <p
><strong
>Known issues
</strong
></p
>
161 <li
>No mass import of user account data in GOsa (ldif or csv)
162 available yet (
698840).
</li
>
163 <li
>Artwork not enabled for all desktops.
</li
>
165 <p
><strong
>Where to get it
</strong
></p
>
167 <p
>To download the multiarch netinstall CD release you can use
</p
>
169 <li
><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-CD.iso
">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-CD.iso
</a
></li
>
170 <li
><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-CD.iso
">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-CD.iso
</a
></li
>
171 <li
>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-CD.iso .
</li
>
174 <p
>The MD5SUM of this image is:
2b161a99d2a848c376d8d04e3854e30c
175 <br
>The SHA1SUM of this image is:
498922e9c508c0a7ee9dbe1dfe5bf830d779c3c8
</p
>
177 <p
>To download the multiarch USB stick ISO release you can use
</p
>
179 <li
><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-USB.iso
">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-USB.iso
</a
></li
>
180 <li
><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-USB.iso
">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-USB.iso
</a
></li
>
181 <li
>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-USB.iso .
</li
>
184 <p
>The MD5SUM of this image is:
25e808e403a4c15dbef1d13c37d572ac
185 <br
>The SHA1SUM of this image is:
15ecfc93eb6b4f453b7eb0bc04b6a279262d9721
</p
>
187 <p
><strong
>How to report bugs
</strong
></p
>
189 <p
><a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
</a
></p
>
194 <title>Automatically locate and install required firmware packages on Debian (Isenkram
0.4)
</title>
195 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatically_locate_and_install_required_firmware_packages_on_Debian__Isenkram_0_4_.html
</link>
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</guid>
197 <pubDate>Tue,
25 Jun
2013 11:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
198 <description><p
>It annoys me when the computer fail to do automatically what it is
199 perfectly capable of, and I have to do it manually to get things
200 working. One such task is to find out what firmware packages are
201 needed to get the hardware on my computer working. Most often this
202 affect the wifi card, but some times it even affect the RAID
203 controller or the ethernet card. Today I pushed version
0.4 of the
204 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/isenkram
">Isenkram package
</a
>
205 including a new script isenkram-autoinstall-firmware handling the
206 process of asking all the loaded kernel modules what firmware files
207 they want, find debian packages providing these files and install the
208 debian packages. Here is a test run on my laptop:
</p
>
211 # isenkram-autoinstall-firmware
212 info: kernel drivers requested extra firmware: ipw2200-bss.fw ipw2200-ibss.fw ipw2200-sniffer.fw
213 info: fetching http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/squeeze/Contents-i386.gz
214 info: locating packages with the requested firmware files
215 info: Updating APT sources after adding non-free APT source
216 info: trying to install firmware-ipw2x00
219 Preconfiguring packages ...
220 Selecting previously deselected package firmware-ipw2x00.
221 (Reading database ...
259727 files and directories currently installed.)
222 Unpacking firmware-ipw2x00 (from .../firmware-ipw2x00_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb) ...
223 Setting up firmware-ipw2x00 (
0.28+squeeze1) ...
225 </pre
></p
>
227 <p
>When all the requested firmware is present, a simple message is
228 printed instead:
</p
>
231 # isenkram-autoinstall-firmware
232 info: did not find any firmware files requested by loaded kernel modules. exiting
234 </pre
></p
>
236 <p
>It could use some polish, but it is already working well and saving
237 me some time when setting up new machines. :)
</p
>
239 <p
>So, how does it work? It look at the set of currently loaded
240 kernel modules, and look up each one of them using modinfo, to find
241 the firmware files listed in the module meta-information. Next, it
242 download the Contents file from a nearby APT mirror, and search for
243 the firmware files in this file to locate the package with the
244 requested firmware file. If the package is in the non-free section, a
245 non-free APT source is added and the package is installed using
246 <tt
>apt-get install
</tt
>. The end result is a slightly better working
249 <p
>I hope someone find time to implement a more polished version of
250 this script as part of the hw-detect debian-installer module, to
251 finally fix
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
655507">BTS report
252 #
655507</a
>. There really is no need to insert USB sticks with
253 firmware during a PXE install when the packages already are available
254 from the nearby Debian mirror.
</p
>
259 <title>The value of a good distro wide test suite...
</title>
260 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/The_value_of_a_good_distro_wide_test_suite___.html
</link>
261 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/The_value_of_a_good_distro_wide_test_suite___.html
</guid>
262 <pubDate>Sat,
22 Jun
2013 07:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
263 <description><p
>In the
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu /
264 Skolelinux
</a
> project, we include a post-installation test suite,
265 which check that services are running, working, and return the
266 expected results. It runs automatically just after the first boot on
267 test installations (using test ISOs), but not on production
268 installations (using non-test ISOs). It test that the LDAP service is
269 operating, Kerberos is responding, DNS is replying, file systems are
270 online resizable, etc, etc. And it check that the PXE service is
271 configured, which is the topic of this post.
</p
>
273 <p
>The last week I
've fixed the DVD and USB stick ISOs for our Debian
274 Edu Wheezy release. These ISOs are supposed to be able to install a
275 complete system without any Internet connection, but for that to
276 happen all the needed packages need to be on them. Thanks to our test
277 suite, I discovered that we had forgotten to adjust our PXE setup to
278 cope with the new names and paths used by the netboot d-i packages.
279 When Internet connectivity was available, the installer fall back to
280 using wget to fetch d-i boot images, but when offline it require
281 working packages to get it working. And ad the packages changed name
282 from debian-installer-
6.0-netboot-$arch to
283 debian-installer-
7.0-netboot-$arch, we no longer pulled in the
284 packages during installation. Without our test suite, I suspect we
285 would never have discovered this before release. Now it is fixed
286 right after we got the ISOs operational.
</p
>
288 <p
>Another by-product of the test suite is that we can ask system
289 administrators with problems getting Debian Edu to work, to run the
290 test suite using
<tt
>/usr/sbin/debian-edu-test-install
</tt
> and see if
291 any errors are detected. This usually pinpoint the subsystem causing
292 the problem.
</p
>
294 <p
>If you want to help us help kids learn how to share and create,
296 <a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%
23debian-edu
">#debian-edu on
297 irc.debian.org
</a
> and the
298 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/
">debian-edu@
</a
> mailing
304 <title>Debian Edu interview: Victor Nițu
</title>
305 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Victor_Ni_u.html
</link>
306 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Victor_Ni_u.html
</guid>
307 <pubDate>Mon,
17 Jun
2013 10:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
308 <description><p
>The
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu and
309 Skolelinux
</a
> distribution have users and contributors all around the
310 globe. And a while back, an enterprising young man showed up on
311 <a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%
23debian-edu
">our IRC channel
312 #debian-edu
</a
> and started asking questions about how Debian Edu
313 worked. We answered as good as we could, and even convinced him to
314 help us with translations. And today I managed to get an interview
315 with him, to learn more about him.
</p
>
317 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
319 <p
>I
'm a
25 year old free software enthusiast, living in Romania,
320 which is also my country of origin. Back in
2009, at a New Year
's Eve
321 party, I had a very nice
<strike
>beer
</strike
> discussion with a
322 friend, when we realized we have no organised Debian community in our
323 country. A few days later, we put together the infrastructure for such
324 community and even gathered a nice Debian-ish crowd. Since then, I
325 began my quest as a free software hacker and activist and I am
326 constantly trying to cover as much ground as possible on that
329 <p
>A few years ago I founded a small web development company, which
330 provided me the flexible schedule I needed so much for my
331 activities. For the last
13 months, I have been the Technical Director
332 of
<a href=
"http://ceata.org/
">Fundația Ceata
</a
>, which is a free
333 software activist organisation endorsed by the FSF and the FSFE, and
334 the only one we have in our country.
</p
>
336 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
337 project?
</strong
></p
>
339 <p
>The idea of participating in the Debian Edu project was a surprise
340 even to me, since I never used it before I began getting involved in
341 it. This year I had a great opportunity to deliver a talk on
342 educational software, and I knew immediately where to look. It was a
343 love at first sight, since I was previously involved with some of the
344 technologies the project incorporates, and I rapidly found a lot of
345 ways to contribute.
</p
>
347 <p
>My first contributions consisted in translating the installer and
348 configuration dialogs, then I found some bugs to squash (I still
349 haven
't fixed them yet though), and I even got my eyes on some other
350 areas where I can prove myself helpful. Since the appetite for free
351 software in my country is pretty low, I
'll be happy to be the first
352 one around here advocating for the project
's adoption in educational
353 environments, and maybe even get my hands dirty in creating a flavour
354 for our own needs. I am not used to make very advanced plannings, so
355 from now on, time will tell what I
'll be doing next, but I think I
356 have a pretty consistent starting point.
</p
>
358 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
359 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
361 <p
>Not a long time ago, I was in the position of configuring and
362 maintaining a LDAP server on some Debian derivative, and I must say it
363 took me a while. A long time ago, I was maintaining a bigger
364 Samba-powered infrastructure, and I must say I spent quite a lot of
365 time on it. I have similar stories about many of the services included
366 with Skolelinux, and the main advantage I see about it is the
367 out-of-the box availability of them, making it quite competitive when
368 it comes to managing a school
's network, for example.
</p
>
370 <p
>Of course, there is more to say about Skolelinux than the
371 availability of the software included, its flexibility in various
372 scenarios is something I can
't wait to experiment
"into the wild
" (I
373 only played with virtual machines so far). And I am sure there is a
374 lot more I haven
't discovered yet about it, being so new within the
377 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
378 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
380 <p
>As usual, when it comes to Debian Blends, I see as the biggest
381 disadvantage the lack of a numerous team dedicated to the
382 project. Every day I see the same names in the changelogs, and I have
383 a constantly fear of the bus factor in this story. I
'd like to see
384 Debian Edu advertised more as an entry point into the Debian
385 ecosystem, especially amongst newcomers and students. IMHO there are a
386 lot low-hanging fruits in terms of bug squashing, and enough
387 opportunities to get the feeling of the Debian Project
's dynamics. Not
388 to mention it
's a very fun blend to work on!
</p
>
390 <p
>Derived from the previous statement, is the delay in catching up
391 with the main Debian release and documentation. This is common though
392 to all blends and derivatives, but it
's an issue we can all work
395 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
397 <p
>I can hardly imagine myself spending a day without Vim, since my
398 daily routine covers writing code and hacking configuration files. I
399 am a fan of the Awesome window manager (but I also like the
400 Enlightenment project a lot!),
401 <a href=
"http://www.claws-mail.org/
">Claws Mail
</a
> due to its ease of
402 use and very configurable behaviour. Recently I fell in love with
403 <a href=
"https://launchpad.net/redshift
">Redshift
</a
>, which helps me
404 get through the night without headaches. Of course, there is much more
405 stuff in this bag, but I
'll need a blog on my own for doing this!
</p
>
407 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
408 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
410 <p
>Well, on this field, I cannot do much more than experiment right
411 now. So, being far from having a recipe for success, I can only assume
416 <li
>schools would like to get rid of proprietary software
</li
>
418 <li
>students will love the openness of the system, and will want to
419 experiment with it - maybe we need to harvest the native curiosity
420 of teenagers more?
</li
>
422 <li
>there is no
"right one
" when it comes to strategies, but it would
423 be useful to have some success stories published somewhere, so
424 other can get some inspiration from them (I know I
'd promote
427 <li
>more active promotion - talks, conferences, even small school
428 lectures can do magical things if they encounter at least one
429 person interested. Who knows who that person might be? ;-)
</li
>
433 <p
>I also see some problems in getting Skolelinux into schools; for
434 example, in our country we have a great deal of corruption issues, so
435 it might be hard(er) to fight against proprietary solutions. Also,
436 people who relied on commercial software for all their lives, would be
437 very hard to convert against their will.
</p
>
442 <title>Debian Edu interview: Jonathan Carter
</title>
443 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Jonathan_Carter.html
</link>
444 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Jonathan_Carter.html
</guid>
445 <pubDate>Wed,
12 Jun
2013 09:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
446 <description><p
>There is a certain cross-over between the
447 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
448 project
</a
> and
<a href=
"http://www.edubuntu.org/
">the Edubuntu
449 project
</a
>, and for example the LTSP packages in Debian are a joint
450 effort between the projects. One person with a foot in both camps is
451 Jonathan Carter, which I am now happy to present to you.
</p
>
453 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
455 <p
>I
'm a South-African free software geek who lives in Cape Town. My
456 days vary quite a bit since I
'm involved in too many things. As I
'm
457 getting older I
'm learning how to focus a bit more :)
</p
>
459 <p
>I
'm also an Edubuntu contributor and I love when there are
460 opportunities for the Edubuntu and Debian Edu projects to benefit from
461 each other.
</p
>
463 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
464 project?
</strong
></p
>
466 <p
>I
've been somewhat familiar with the project before, but I think my
467 first direct exposure to the project was when I met Petter
468 [Reinholdtsen] and Knut [Yrvin] at the Edubuntu summit in
2005 in
469 London. They provided great feedback that helped the bootstrapping of
470 Edubuntu. Back then Edubuntu (and even Ubuntu) was still very new and
471 it was great getting input from people who have been around longer. I
472 was also still very excitable and said yes to everything and to this
473 day I have a big todo list backlog that I
'm catching up with. I think
474 over the years the relationship between Edubuntu and Debian-Edu has
475 been gradually improving, although I think there
's a lot that we could
476 still improve on in terms of working together on packages. I
'm sure
477 we
'll get there one day.
</p
>
479 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
480 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
482 <p
>Debian itself already has so many advantages. I could go on about
483 it for pages, but in essence I love that it
's a very honest project
484 that puts its users first with no hidden agendas and also produces
485 very high quality work.
</p
>
487 <p
>I think the advantage of Debian Edu is that it makes many common
488 set-up tasks simpler so that administrators can get up and running
489 with a lot less effort and frustration. At the same time I think it
490 helps to standardise installations in schools so that it
's easier for
491 community members and commercial suppliers to support.
</p
>
493 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
494 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
496 <p
>I had to re-type this one a few times because I
'm trying to
497 separate
"disadvantages
" from
"areas that need improvement
" (which is
498 what I originally rambled on about)
</p
>
500 <p
>The biggest disadvantage I can think of is lack of manpower. The
501 project could do so much more if there were more good contributors. I
502 think some of the problems are external too. Free software and free
503 content in education is a no-brainer but it takes some time to catch
504 on. When you
've been working with the same proprietary eco-system for
505 years and have gotten used to it, it can be hard to adjust to some
506 concepts in the free software world. It would be nice if there were
507 more Debian Edu consultants across the world. I
'd love to be one
508 myself but I
'm already so over-committed that it
's just not possible
511 <p
>I think the best short-term solution to that large-scale problem is
512 for schools to be pro-active and share their experiences and grow
513 their skills in-house. I
'm often saddened to see how much money
514 educational institutions spend on
3rd party solutions that they don
't
515 have access to after the service has ended and they could
've gotten so
516 much more value otherwise by being more self-sustainable and
517 autonomous.
</p
>
519 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
521 <p
>My main laptop dual-boots between Debian and Windows
7. I was
522 Windows free for years but started dual-booting again last year for
523 some games which help me focus and relax (Starcraft II in
524 particular). Gaming support on Linux is improving in leaps and bounds
525 so I suppose I
'll soon be able to regain that disk space :)
</p
>
527 <p
>Besides that I rely on Icedove, Chromium, Terminator, Byobu, irssi,
528 git, Tomboy, KVM, VLC and LibreOffice. Recently I
've been torn on
529 which desktop environment I like and I
'm taking some refuge in Xfce
530 while I figure that out. I like tools that keep things simple. I enjoy
531 Python and shell scripting. I went to an Arduino workshop recently and
532 it was awesome seeing how easy and simple the IDE software was to get
533 up and running in Debian compared to the users running Windows and OS
536 <p
>I also use mc which some people frown upon slightly. I got used to
537 using Norton Commander in the early
90's and it stuck (I think the
538 people who sneer at it is just jealous that they don
't know how to use
541 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
542 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
544 <p
>I think trying to force it is unproductive. I also think that in
545 many cases it
's appropriate for schools to use non-free systems and I
546 don
't think that there
's any particular moral or ethical problem with
549 <p
>I do think though that free software can already solve so so many
550 problems in educational institutions and it
's just a shame not taking
551 advantage of that.
</p
>
553 <p
>I also think that some curricula need serious review. For example,
554 some areas of the world rely heavily on very specific versions of MS
555 Office, teaching students to parrot menu items instead of learning the
556 general concepts. I think that
's very unproductive because firstly, MS
557 Office
's interface changes drastically every few years and on top of
558 that it also locks in a generation to a product that might not be the
559 best solution for them.
</p
>
561 <p
>To answer your question, I believe that the right strategy is to
562 educate and inform, giving someone the information they require to
563 make a decision that would work for them.
</p
>
568 <title>Fixing the Linux black screen of death on machines with Intel HD video
</title>
569 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Fixing_the_Linux_black_screen_of_death_on_machines_with_Intel_HD_video.html
</link>
570 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Fixing_the_Linux_black_screen_of_death_on_machines_with_Intel_HD_video.html
</guid>
571 <pubDate>Tue,
11 Jun
2013 11:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
572 <description><p
>When installing RedHat, Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu on some machines,
573 the screen just turn black when Linux boot, either during installation
574 or on first boot from the hard disk. I
've seen it once in a while the
575 last few years, but only recently understood the cause. I
've seen it
576 on HP laptops, and on my latest acquaintance the Packard Bell laptop.
577 The reason seem to be in the wiring of some laptops. The system to
578 control the screen background light is inverted, so when Linux try to
579 turn the brightness fully on, it end up turning it off instead. I do
580 not know which Linux drivers are affected, but this post is about the
581 i915 driver used by the
582 <a href=
"http://www.linlap.com/packard_bell_easynote_lv
">Packard Bell
583 EasyNote LV
</a
>, Thinkpad X40 and many other laptops.
</p
>
585 <p
>The problem can be worked around two ways. Either by adding
586 i915.invert_brightness=
1 as a kernel option, or by adding a file in
587 /etc/modprobe.d/ to tell modprobe to add the invert_brightness=
1
588 option when it load the i915 kernel module. On Debian and Ubuntu, it
589 can be done by running these commands as root:
</p
>
592 echo options i915 invert_brightness=
1 | tee /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf
593 update-initramfs -u -k all
596 <p
>Since March
2012 there is
597 <a href=
"http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=
4dca20efb1a9c2efefc28ad2867e5d6c3f5e1955
">a
598 mechanism in the Linux kernel
</a
> to tell the i915 driver which
599 hardware have this problem, and get the driver to invert the
600 brightness setting automatically. To use it, one need to add a row in
601 <a href=
"http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_display.c
">the
602 intel_quirks array
</a
> in the driver source
603 <tt
>drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_display.c
</tt
> (look for
"<tt
>static
604 struct intel_quirk intel_quirks
</tt
>"), specifying the PCI device
605 number (vendor number
8086 is assumed) and subdevice vendor and device
608 <p
>My Packard Bell EasyNote LV got this output from
<tt
>lspci
609 -vvnn
</tt
> for the video card in question:
</p
>
612 00:
02.0 VGA compatible controller [
0300]: Intel Corporation \
613 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller [
8086:
0156] \
614 (rev
09) (prog-if
00 [VGA controller])
615 Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [
1025:
0688]
616 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- \
617 ParErr- Stepping- SE RR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
618 Status: Cap+
66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast
>TAbort- \
619 <TAbort-
<MAbort-
>SERR-
<PERR- INTx-
621 Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ
42
622 Region
0: Memory at c2000000 (
64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=
4M]
623 Region
2: Memory at b0000000 (
64-bit, prefetchable) [size=
256M]
624 Region
4: I/O ports at
4000 [size=
64]
625 Expansion ROM at
<unassigned
> [disabled]
626 Capabilities:
<access denied
>
627 Kernel driver in use: i915
628 </pre
></p
>
630 <p
>The resulting intel_quirks entry would then look like this:
</p
>
633 struct intel_quirk intel_quirks[] = {
635 /* Packard Bell EasyNote LV11HC needs invert brightness quirk */
636 {
0x0156,
0x1025,
0x0688, quirk_invert_brightness },
639 </pre
></p
>
641 <p
>According to the kernel module instructions (as seen using
642 <tt
>modinfo i915
</tt
>), information about hardware needing the
643 invert_brightness flag should be sent to the
644 <a href=
"http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
">dri-devel
645 (at) lists.freedesktop.org
</a
> mailing list to reach the kernel
646 developers. But my email about the laptop sent
2013-
06-
03 have not
648 <a href=
"http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/
2013-June/thread.html
">the
649 web archive for the mailing list
</a
>, so I suspect they do not accept
650 emails from non-subscribers. Because of this, I sent my patch also to
651 the Debian bug tracking system instead as
652 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
710938">BTS report #
710938</a
>, to make
653 sure the patch is not lost.
</p
>
655 <p
>Unfortunately, it is not enough to fix the kernel to get Laptops
656 with this problem working properly with Linux. If you use Gnome, your
657 worries should be over at this point. But if you use KDE, there is
658 something in KDE ignoring the invert_brightness setting and turning on
659 the screen during login. I
've reported it to Debian as
660 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
711237">BTS report #
711237</a
>, and
661 have no idea yet how to figure out exactly what subsystem is doing
662 this. Perhaps you can help? Perhaps you know what the Gnome
663 developers did to handle this, and this can give a clue to the KDE
664 developers? Or you know where in KDE the screen brightness is changed
665 during login? If so, please update the BTS report (or get in touch if
666 you do not know how to update BTS).
</p
>
671 <title>Third alpha release of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Debian Wheezy
</title>
672 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Third_alpha_release_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Debian_Wheezy.html
</link>
673 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Third_alpha_release_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Debian_Wheezy.html
</guid>
674 <pubDate>Mon,
10 Jun
2013 22:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
675 <description><p
>The third wheezy based alpha release of Debian Edu was wrapped up
676 today. This is the release announcement:
</p
>
678 <p
><strong
>New features for Debian Edu
7.0.0 alpha2 released
679 2013-
06-
10</strong
></p
>
681 <p
>This is the release notes for for Debian Edu / Skolelinux
7.0.0 edu
682 alpha2, based on Debian with codename
"Wheezy
".
</p
>
684 <p
><strong
>About Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</strong
></p
>
686 <p
><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu, also known as
687 Skolelinux
</a
>, is a Linux distribution based on Debian providing an
688 out-of-the box environment of a completely configured school
689 network. Immediately after installation a school server running all
690 services needed for a school network is set up just waiting for users
691 and machines being added via GOsa², a comfortable Web-UI. A netbooting
692 environment is prepared using PXE, so after initial installation of
693 the main server from CD, DVD or USB stick all other machines can be
694 installed via the network. The provided school server provides LDAP
695 database and Kerberos authentication service, centralized home
696 directories, DHCP server, web proxy and many other services. The
698 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Educational_applications_included_in_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux__the_screenshot_collection____.html
">more
699 than
60 educational software packages
</a
> and more are available from
700 the Debian archive, and schools can choose between KDE, Gnome, LXDE
701 and Xfce desktop environment.
</p
>
703 <p
>This is the third test release based on Debian Wheezy. Basically
704 this is an updated and slightly improved version compared to the
705 Squeeze release.
</p
>
707 <p
><strong
>Software updates
</strong
></p
>
711 <li
>Iceweasel was updated from
10 to
17. (DSA
2699-
1)
712 <li
>Updated libxv (DSA-
2674), libxvmc (DSA-
2675), libxfixes (DSA-
2676), libxrender (DSA-
2677), mesa (DSA-
2678), xserver-xorg-video-openchrome (DSA-
2679), libxt (DSA-
2680), libxcursor (DSA-
2681), libxext (DSA-
2682), libxi (DSA-
2683), libxrandr (DSA-
2684), libxp (DSA-
2685), libxcb (DSA-
2686), libfs (DSA-
2687), libxres (DSA-
2688), libxtst (DSA-
2689), libxxf86dga (DSA-
2690), libxinerama (DSA-
2691), libxxf86vm (DSA-
2692), libx11 (DSA-
2693), chromium-browser (DSA-
2695), gnutls26 (DSA-
2697), wireshark (DSA-
2700), krb5 (DSA-
2701), telepathy-gabble (DSA-
2702) and subversion (DSA-
2703).
713 <li
>Switched xrdp on thin client servers to use tightvncserver instead of xvnc4.
714 <li
>Now install software oscilloscope xoscope by default.
715 <li
>Now install music tools gtick, lingot and pianobooster by default.
719 <p
><strong
>Other changes
</strong
></p
>
723 <li
>The subnet-change script is now able to change all files needing a change on the main-server when changing the IP network used.
724 <li
>Updated translation of the installation.
725 <li
>New Romanian translation.
726 <li
>Fix security problem causing root and first user password to no longer show up in /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat.
727 <li
>Fix roaming workstation setup (Closed in libpam-mklocaluser/
0.8, libpam-mklocaluser/
0.8~deb7u1: #
706753: libpam-mklocaluser: Fail to create local user during first login).
728 <li
>Made roaming workstation setup more robust in non-Debian Edu environments.
729 <li
>New script debian-edu-bless to transform a Debian installation to a Debian Edu profile.
730 <li
>Adjust Iceweasel setup to improve performance when $HOME is on NFS.
731 <li
>More testsuite tests.
732 <li
>Make automatic proxy configuration more robust.
733 <li
>Adjust GOsa² GUI configuration.
735 <li
>Update thin client and diskless workstation setup to work with
736 LTSP in Wheezy.
</li
>
738 <li
>Diskless workstations now run out of the box -- no need to set
739 them up with GOsa².
</li
>
741 <li
>Update IMAP server setup.
</li
>
743 <li
>Fix login into Skolelinux Backup Tool (Closed in
744 slbackup-php/
0.4.4-
1: #
700257: slbackup-php: Fails to submit correctly
745 entered password).
</li
>
749 <p
><strong
>Known issues
</strong
></p
>
753 <li
>DVD binary and source images are not yet ready.
</li
>
755 <li
>No mass import of user account data in GOsa (ldif or csv)
756 available yet (Open in gosa/
2.7.4-
4: #
698840: gosa-plugin-ldapmanager:
757 missing import feature).
</li
>
759 <li
>Missing artwork for the KDE desktop (and probably a few others).
</li
>
761 <li
>KDE Debian submenu lacks icons (Closed: #
502192: menu-xdg: invents
762 own icon names instead of using existing). This will remain
767 <p
><strong
>Where to get it
</strong
></p
>
769 <p
>To download the multiarch netinstall CD release you can use
</p
>
773 <li
><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.0+edu0~a2-CD.iso
">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.0+edu0~a2-CD.iso
</a
></li
>
775 <li
><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.0+edu0~a2-CD.iso
">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.0+edu0~a2-CD.iso
</a
></li
>
777 <li
>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.0+edu0~a2-CD.iso .
</li
>
781 <p
>The MD5SUM of this image is:
27bbcace407743382f3c42c08dbe8178
782 <br
>The SHA1SUM of this image is: e35f7d7908566cd3075375b3721fa10ee420d419
</p
>
784 <p
><strong
>How to report bugs
</strong
></p
>
786 <p
><a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
</a
>
791 <title>Is there a PHP expert in the building? Debian Edu need help!
</title>
792 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Is_there_a_PHP_expert_in_the_building___Debian_Edu_need_help_.html
</link>
793 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Is_there_a_PHP_expert_in_the_building___Debian_Edu_need_help_.html
</guid>
794 <pubDate>Wed,
5 Jun
2013 17:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
795 <description><p
>Here is a call for help from the Debian Edu / Skolelinux project.
796 We have two problems blocking the release of the Wheezy version we
797 hope to get released soon. The two problems require some with PHP
798 skills, and we seem to lack anyone with both time and PHP skills in
803 <li
>It is impossible to log into the slbackup web interface
804 (slbackup-php) using the root user and password. This is
805 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
700257">BTS report #
700257</a
>.
806 This used to work, but stopped working some time since Squeeze.
807 Perhaps some obsolete PHP feature was used?
</li
>
809 <li
>It is not possible to
"mass import
" user lists in Gosa, neither
810 using ldif nor using CSV files. The feature was disabled after a
811 major rewrite of Gosa, and need to be ported to the new system.
812 This is
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
698840">BTS report
813 #
698840</a
>.
</li
>
817 <p
>If you can help us, please join us on IRC
818 (
<a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%
23debian-edu
">#debian-edu on
819 irc.debian.org
</a
>) and provide patches via the BTS.
</p
>
824 <title>Debian Edu interview: Cédric Boutillier
</title>
825 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__C_dric_Boutillier.html
</link>
826 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__C_dric_Boutillier.html
</guid>
827 <pubDate>Tue,
4 Jun
2013 10:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
828 <description><p
>It has been a while since my last English
829 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a
>
830 interview last November. But the developers and translators are still
831 pulling along to get the Wheezy based release out the door, and this
832 time I managed to get an interview from one of the French translators
833 in the project, Cédric Boutillier.
</p
>
835 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
837 <p
>I am
34 year old. I live near Paris, France. I am an assistant
838 professor in probability theory. I spend my daytime teaching
839 mathematics at the university and doing fundamental research in
840 probability in connexion with combinatorics and statistical physics.
</p
>
842 <p
>I have been involved in the Debian project for a couple of years
843 and became Debian Developer a few months ago. I am working on Ruby
844 packaging, publicity and translation.
</p
>
846 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
847 project?
</strong
></p
>
849 <p
>I came to the Debian Edu project after a call for translation of
850 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Manuals
">the
851 Debian Edu manual
</a
> for the release of Debian Edu Squeeze. Since
852 then, I have been working on updating the French translation of the
855 <p
>I had the opportunity to make an installation of Debian Edu in a
856 virtual machine when I was preparing localised version of some screen
857 shots for the manual. I was amazed to see it worked out of the box and
858 how comprehensive the list of software installed by default was.
</p
>
860 <p
>What amazed me was the complete network infrastructure directly
861 ready to use, which can and the nice administration interface provided
862 by
<a href=
"https://oss.gonicus.de/labs/gosa/
">GOsa²
</a
>. What pleased
863 me also was the fact that among the software installed by default,
864 there were many
"traditional
" educative software to learn languages,
865 to count, to program... but also software to develop creativity and
866 artistic skills with music (
<a href=
"http://ardour.org/
">Ardour
</a
>,
867 <a href=
"http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
">Audacity
</a
>) and
868 movies/animation (I was especially thinking of
869 <a href=
"http://linuxstopmotion.sourceforge.net/
">Stopmotion
</a
>).
</p
>
871 <p
>I am following the development of Debian Edu and am hanging out on
872 <a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%
23debian-edu
">#debian-edu
</a
>.
873 Unfortunately, I don
't much time to get more involved in this
874 beautiful project.
</p
>
876 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
877 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
879 <p
>For me, the main advantages of Skolelinux/Debian Edu are its
880 community of experts and its precise documentation, as well as the
881 fact that it provides a solution ready to use.
</p
>
883 <p
>I would add also the fact that it is based on the rock solid Debian
884 distribution, which ensures stability and provides a huge collection
885 of educational free software.
</p
>
887 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
888 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
890 <p
>Maybe the lack of manpower to do lobbying on the
891 project. Sometimes, people who need to take decisions concerning IT do
892 not have all the elements to evaluate properly free software
893 solutions. The fact that support by a company may be difficult to find
894 is probably a problem if the school does not have IT personnel.
</p
>
896 <p
>One can find support from a company by looking at
897 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Help/ProfessionalHelp
">the
898 wiki dokumentation
</a
>, where some countries already have a number of
899 companies providing support for Debian Edu, like Germany or
900 Norway. This list is easy to find readily from the manual. However,
901 for other countries, like France, the list is empty. I guess that
902 consultants proposing support for Debian would be able to provide some
903 support for Debian Edu as well.
</p
>
905 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
907 <p
>I am using the KDE Plasma Desktop. But the pieces of software I use
908 most runs in a terminal: Mutt and OfflineIMAP for emails, latex for
909 scientific documents, mpd for music. VIM is my editor of choice. I am
910 also using the mathematical software
911 <a href=
"http://www.scilab.org/en/scilab/about
">Scilab
</a
> and
912 <a href=
"http://www.sagemath.org/index.html
">Sage
</a
> (built from
913 source as not completely packaged for Debian, yet).
915 <p
><strong
>Do you have any suggestions for teachers interested in
916 using the free software in Debian to teach mathematics and
917 statistics?
</strong
></p
>
919 <p
>I do not have any
"nice
" recommendations for statistics. At our
920 university, we use both
<a href=
"http://www.r-project.org/
">R
</a
> and
921 Scilab to teach statistics and probabilistic simulations. For
922 geometry, there are nice programs:
</p
>
926 <li
><a href=
"http://www.drgeo.eu/
">drgeo
</a
> and
927 <a href=
"http://edu.kde.org/applications/all/kig
">kig
</a
> to do
928 constructions in planar geometry
930 <li
><a href=
"http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/software/download/kali.html
">kali
</a
>
931 to discover symmetry groups (the so-called wallpapers and frieze
932 groups), although the interface looks a bit old.
</li
>
937 <a href=
"http://edu.kde.org/applications/all/cantor
">cantor
</a
>, which
938 provides a uniform interface to SciLab, Sage,
939 <a href=
"http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Octave
">Octave
</a
>, etc...
</p
>
941 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
942 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
944 <p
>My suggestions would be to
</p
>
948 <li
>advertise the reduction of costs when free software is used.
</li
>
950 <li
>communicate about the quality of free software projects, using
951 well known examples like Firefox, ThunderBird and
952 OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice.
</li
>
954 <li
>advertise the living and strong community around the project.
</li
>
956 <li
>show that it is not more difficult to use than any other