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  15      <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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  23       <div class="title">How to talk with your loved ones in private</div>
  24       <div class="date"> 7th November 2016</div>
  25       <div class="body"><p>A few days ago I ran a very biased and informal survey to get an
  26 idea about what options are being used to communicate with end to end
  27 encryption with friends and family.  I explicitly asked people not to
  28 list options only used in a work setting.  The background is the
  29 uneasy feeling I get when using Signal, a feeling shared by others as
  30 a blog post from Sander Venima about
  31 <a href="https://sandervenema.ch/2016/11/why-i-wont-recommend-signal-anymore/">why
  32 he do not recommend Signal anymore</a> (with
  33 <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12883410">feedback from
  34 the Signal author available from ycombinator</a>).  I wanted an
  35 overview of the options being used, and hope to include those options
  36 in a less biased survey later on.  So far I have not taken the time to
  37 look into the individual proposed systems.  They range from text
  38 sharing web pages, via file sharing and email to instant messaging,
  39 VOIP and video conferencing.  For those considering which system to
  40 use, it is also useful to have a look at
  41 <a href="https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard">the EFF Secure
  42 messaging scorecard</a> which is slightly out of date but still
  43 provide valuable information.</p>
  44
  45 <p>So, on to the list.  There were some used by many, some used by a
  46 few, some rarely used ones and a few mentioned but without anyone
  47 claiming to use them.  Notice the grouping is in reality quite random
  48 given the biased self selected set of participants.  First the ones
  49 used by many:</p>
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  51 <ul>
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  53 <li><a href="https://whispersystems.org/">Signal</a></li>
  54 <li>Email w/<a href="http://openpgp.org/">OpenPGP</a> (Enigmail, GPGSuite,etc)</li>
  55 <li><a href="https://www.whatsapp.com/">Whatsapp</a></li>
  56 <li>IRC w/<a href="https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/">OTR</a></li>
  57 <li>XMPP w/<a href="https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/">OTR</a></li>
  58
  59 </ul>
  60
  61 <p>Then the ones used by a few.</p>
  62
  63 <ul>
  64
  65 <li><a href="https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Main_Page">Mumble</a></li>
  66 <li>iMessage (included in iOS from Apple)</li>
  67 <li><a href="https://telegram.org/">Telegram</a></li>
  68 <li><a href="https://jitsi.org/">Jitsi</a></li>
  69 <li><a href="https://keybase.io/download">Keybase file</a></li>
  70
  71 </ul>
  72
  73 <p>Then the ones used by even fewer people</p>
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  75 <ul>
  76
  77 <li><a href="https://ring.cx/">Ring</a></li>
  78 <li><a href="https://bitmessage.org/">Bitmessage</a></li>
  79 <li><a href="https://wire.com/">Wire</a></li>
  80 <li>VoIP w/<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZRTP">ZRTP</a> or controlled <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Real-time_Transport_Protocol">SRTP</a> (e.g using <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSipSimple">CSipSimple</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linphone">Linphone</a>)</li>
  81 <li><a href="https://matrix.org/">Matrix</a></li>
  82 <li><a href="https://kontalk.org/">Kontalk</a></li>
  83 <li><a href="https://0bin.net/">0bin</a> (encrypted pastebin)</li>
  84 <li><a href="https://appear.in">Appear.in</a></li>
  85 <li><a href="https://riot.im/">riot</a></li>
  86 <li><a href="https://www.wickr.com/">Wickr Me</a></li>
  87
  88 </ul>
  89
  90 <p>And finally the ones mentioned by not marked as used by
  91 anyone. This might be a mistake, perhaps the person adding the entry
  92 forgot to flag it as used?</p>
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  94 <ul>
  95
  96 <li>Email w/Certificates <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/MIME">S/MIME</a></li>
  97 <li><a href="https://www.crypho.com/">Crypho</a></li>
  98 <li><a href="https://cryptpad.fr/">CryptPad</a></li>
  99 <li><a href="https://github.com/ricochet-im/ricochet">ricochet</a></li>
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 101 </ul>
 102
 103 <p>Given the network effect it seem obvious to me that we as a society
 104 have been divided and conquered by those interested in keeping
 105 encrypted and secure communication away from the masses.  The
 106 finishing remarks <a href="https://vimeo.com/97505679">from Aral Balkan
 107 in his talk "Free is a lie"</a> about the usability of free software
 108 really come into effect when you want to communicate in private with
 109 your friends and family.  We can not expect them to allow the
 110 usability of communication tool to block their ability to talk to
 111 their loved ones.</p>
 112
 113 <p>Note for example the option IRC w/OTR.  Most IRC clients do not
 114 have OTR support, so in most cases OTR would not be an option, even if
 115 you wanted to.  In my personal experience, about 1 in 20 I talk to
 116 have a IRC client with OTR.  For private communication to really be
 117 available, most people to talk to must have the option in their
 118 currently used client.  I can not simply ask my family to install an
 119 IRC client.  I need to guide them through a technical multi-step
 120 process of adding extensions to the client to get them going.  This is
 121 a non-starter for most.</p>
 122
 123 <p>I would like to be able to do video phone calls, audio phone calls,
 124 exchange instant messages and share files with my loved ones, without
 125 being forced to share with people I do not know.  I do not want to
 126 share the content of the conversations, and I do not want to share who
 127 I communicate with or the fact that I communicate with someone.
 128 Without all these factors in place, my private life is being more or
 129 less invaded.</p>
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 132       <div class="tags">Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/surveillance">surveillance</a>.</div>
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