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15 <a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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23 <div class="title">Datatilsynet svarer om Bilkollektivets ønske om GPS-sporing</div>
24 <div class="date">14th October 2010</div>
25 <div class="body"><p>I forbindelse med Bilkollektivets plan om å skaffe seg mulighet til
26 å GPS-spore sine medlemmers bevegelser
27 (<a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Bilkollektivet_vil_ha_retten_til____se_hvor_jeg_kj__rer___.html">omtalt
28 tidligere</a>), sendte jeg avgårde et spørsmål til <a
29 href="http://www.datatilsynet.no/">Datatilsynet</a> for å gjøre dem
30 oppmerksom på saken og høre hva de hadde å si. Her er korrespondansen
31 så langt.</p>
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33 <p><blockquote>
34 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:38:55 +0200
35 <br>From: Petter Reinholdtsen
36 <br>To: postkasse@datatilsynet.no
37 <br>Subject: GPS-sporing av privatpersoners bruk av bil?
38
39 <p>Hei. Jeg er med i Bilkollektivet[1] her i Oslo, og ble i dag
40 orientert om at de har tenkt å innføre GPS-sporing av bilene og krever
41 at en for fremtidig bruk skal godkjenne følgende klausul i
42 bruksvilkårene[2]:</p>
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44 <p><blockquote>
45 Andelseier er med dette gjort kjent med at bilene er utstyrt med
46 sporingsutstyr, som kan benyttes av Bilkollektivet til å spore biler
47 som brukes utenfor gyldig reservasjon.
48 </blockquote></p>
49
50 <p>Er slik sporing meldepliktig til datatilsynet? Har Bilkollektivet
51 meldt dette til Datatilsynet? Forsøkte å søke på orgnr. 874 538 892
52 på søkesiden for meldinger[3], men fant intet der.</p>
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54 <p>Hva er datatilsynets syn på slik sporing av privatpersoners bruk av
55 bil?</p>
56
57 <p>Jeg må innrømme at jeg forventer å kunne ferdes anonymt og uten
58 radiomerking i Norge, og synes GPS-sporing av bilen jeg ønsker å bruke
59 i så måte er et overgrep mot privatlivets fred. For meg er det et
60 prinsipielt spørsmål og det er underordnet hvem og med hvilket formål
61 som i første omgang sies å skulle ha tilgang til
62 sporingsinformasjonen. Jeg vil ikke ha mulighet til å sjekke eller
63 kontrollere når bruksområdene utvides, og erfaring viser jo at
64 bruksområder utvides når informasjon først er samlet inn.<p>
65
66 <p>1 &lt;URL: http://www.bilkollektivet.no/ >
67 <br>2 &lt;URL: http://www.bilkollektivet.no/bilbruksregler.26256.no.html >
68 <br>3 &lt;URL: http://hetti.datatilsynet.no/melding/report_search.pl >
69
70 <p>Vennlig hilsen,
71 <br>--
72 <br>Petter Reinholdtsen
73 </blockquote></p>
74
75 <p>Svaret fra Datatilsynet kom dagen etter:</p>
76
77 <p><blockquote>
78 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:24:17 +0200
79 <br>From: Henok Tesfazghi
80 <br>To: Petter Reinholdtsen
81 <br>Subject: VS: GPS-sporing av privatpersoners bruk av bil?
82
83 <p>Viser til e-post av 23. september 2010.</p>
84
85 <p>Datatilsynet er det forvaltningsorganet som skal kontrollere at
86 personopplysningsloven blir fulgt. Formålet med loven er å verne
87 enkeltpersoner mot krenking av personvernet gjennom behandling av
88 personopplysninger. Vi gjør oppmerksom på at vår e-post svartjeneste
89 er ment å være en kortfattet rådgivningstjeneste, slik at vi av den
90 grunn ikke kan konkludere i din sak, men gi deg innledende råd og
91 veiledning. Vårt syn er basert på din fremstilling av saksforholdet,
92 andre opplysninger vi eventuelt ikke kjenner til og som kan være
93 relevante, vil kunne medføre et annet resultat.</p>
94
95 <p>Det er uklart for Datatilsynet hva slags GPS-sporing Bilkollektivet
96 her legger opp til. Dette skyldes blant annet manglende informasjon i
97 forhold til hvilket formål GPS-sporingen har, hvordan det er ment å
98 fungere, hvilket behandlingsgrunnlag som ligger til grunn, samt om
99 opplysningene skal lagres eller ikke.</p>
100
101 <p>Behandlingen vil i utgangspunket være meldepliktig etter
102 personopplysningslovens § 31. Det finnes en rekke unntak fra
103 meldeplikten som er hjemlet i personopplysningsforskriftens kapittel
104 7. Da dette er et andelslag, og andelseiere i en utstrekning også kan
105 karakteriseres som kunder, vil unntak etter
106 personopplysningsforskriftens § 7-7 kunne komme til anvendelse, se
107 lenke: <a href="http://lovdata.no/for/sf/fa/ta-20001215-1265-009.html#7-7">http://lovdata.no/for/sf/fa/ta-20001215-1265-009.html#7-7</a></p>
108
109 <p>Datatilsynet har til orientering en rekke artikler som omhandler
110 henholdsvis sporing og lokalisering, samt trafikanter og passasjerer,
111 se lenke:
112 <br><a href="http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____1730.aspx">http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____1730.aspx</a> og
113 <br><a href="http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____1098.aspx">http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____1098.aspx</a></p>
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115
116 <p>Vennlig hilsen
117 <br>Henok Tesfazghi
118 <br>Rådgiver, Datatilsynet
119 </blockquote></p>
120
121 <p>Vet ennå ikke om jeg har overskudd til å ta opp kampen i
122 Bilkollektivet, mellom barnepass og alt det andre som spiser opp
123 dagene, eller om jeg bare finner et annet alternativ.</p>
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464 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/10/">October (17)</a></li>
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466 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/11/">November (10)</a></li>
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468 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2012/12/">December (7)</a></li>
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470 </ul></li>
471
472 <li>2011
473 <ul>
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475 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/01/">January (16)</a></li>
476
477 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/02/">February (6)</a></li>
478
479 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/03/">March (6)</a></li>
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481 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/04/">April (7)</a></li>
482
483 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/05/">May (3)</a></li>
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485 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/06/">June (2)</a></li>
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487 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/07/">July (7)</a></li>
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489 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/08/">August (6)</a></li>
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491 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/09/">September (4)</a></li>
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493 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/10/">October (2)</a></li>
494
495 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/11/">November (3)</a></li>
496
497 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2011/12/">December (1)</a></li>
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499 </ul></li>
500
501 <li>2010
502 <ul>
503
504 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/01/">January (2)</a></li>
505
506 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/02/">February (1)</a></li>
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508 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/03/">March (3)</a></li>
509
510 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/04/">April (3)</a></li>
511
512 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/05/">May (9)</a></li>
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514 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/06/">June (14)</a></li>
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516 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/07/">July (12)</a></li>
517
518 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/08/">August (13)</a></li>
519
520 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/09/">September (7)</a></li>
521
522 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/10/">October (9)</a></li>
523
524 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/11/">November (13)</a></li>
525
526 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/12/">December (12)</a></li>
527
528 </ul></li>
529
530 <li>2009
531 <ul>
532
533 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/01/">January (8)</a></li>
534
535 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/02/">February (8)</a></li>
536
537 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/03/">March (12)</a></li>
538
539 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/04/">April (10)</a></li>
540
541 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/05/">May (9)</a></li>
542
543 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/06/">June (3)</a></li>
544
545 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/07/">July (4)</a></li>
546
547 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/08/">August (3)</a></li>
548
549 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/09/">September (1)</a></li>
550
551 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/10/">October (2)</a></li>
552
553 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/11/">November (3)</a></li>
554
555 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/12/">December (3)</a></li>
556
557 </ul></li>
558
559 <li>2008
560 <ul>
561
562 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2008/11/">November (5)</a></li>
563
564 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2008/12/">December (7)</a></li>
565
566 </ul></li>
567
568 </ul>
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570
571
572 <h2>Tags</h2>
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617 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/frikanalen">frikanalen (20)</a></li>
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621 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju (43)</a></li>
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625 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart (23)</a></li>
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629 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap (9)</a></li>
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633 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/lenker">lenker (8)</a></li>
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637 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/lsdvd">lsdvd (2)</a></li>
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639 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ltsp">ltsp (1)</a></li>
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641 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/madewithcc">madewithcc (3)</a></li>
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643 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/mesh network">mesh network (8)</a></li>
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645 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia (46)</a></li>
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655 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/offentlig innsyn">offentlig innsyn (41)</a></li>
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660
661 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett (76)</a></li>
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665 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/raid">raid (4)</a></li>
666
667 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/reactos">reactos (1)</a></li>
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669 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/reprap">reprap (11)</a></li>
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671 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/rfid">rfid (3)</a></li>
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673 <li><a href="https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/robot">robot (17)</a></li>
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