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1 Title: MPEG-LA mener NRK må ha avtale med dem for å kringkaste og publisere H.264-video
2 Tags: norsk, video, opphavsrett, multimedia, web, standard, h264
3 Date: 2012-06-28 20:00
4
5 <p>Etter at NRK
6 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/NRK_nekter___finne_og_utlevere_eventuell_avtale_med_MPEG_LA.html">nektet
7 å spore opp eventuell avtale med MPEG-LA</a> eller andre om bruk av
8 MPEG/H.264-video etter at jeg <a
9 href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Trenger_en_avtale_med_MPEG_LA_for___publisere_og_kringkaste_H_264_video_.html">ba
10 om innsyn i slike avtaler</a>, tenkte jeg at i stedet for å forsøke å
11 få NRK til å finne en slik avtale, så burde det være like enkelt å
12 spørre MPEG-LA om de hadde avtale med NRK. Spørsmålet ble sendt før
13 jeg fikk tips fra Kieran Kunhya om hvor listen over lisensinnehavere
14 "in Good Standing" befant seg. MPEG-LA svarte meg i dag, og kan
15 fortelle at NRK ikke har noen avtale med dem, så da er i det minste det
16 slått fast. Ikke overraskende mener MPEG-LA at det trengs en avtale
17 med MPEG-LA for å streame H.264, men deres rammer er jo
18 rettstilstanden i USA og ikke Norge. Jeg tar dermed den delen av
19 svaret med en klype salt. Jeg er dermed fortsatt ikke klok på om det
20 trengs en avtale, og hvis det trengs en avtale her i Norge, heller
21 ikke sikker på om NRK har en avtale med noen andre enn MPEG-LA som
22 gjør at de ikke trenger avtale direkte med MPEG-LA. Jeg håper NRKs
23 jurister har vurdert dette, og at det er mulig å få tilgang til
24 vurderingen uansett om de trenger en avtale eller ikke.</p>
25
26 <p>Her er epostutvekslingen med MPEG-LA så langt. Håper ikke
27 utvekslingen fører til NRK plutselig får en litt uventet pakke fra
28 MPEG-LA.</p>
29
30 <p><blockquote>
31 <p>Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:29:37 +0200
32 <br>From: Petter Reinholdtsen &lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
33 <br>To: licensing-web (at) mpegla.com
34 <br>Subject: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
35
36 <p>Hi. I have a small question for you, that I hope it is OK that I
37 ask.</p>
38
39 <p>Is there any license agreements between MPEG-LA and NRK, &lt;URL:
40 <a href="http://www.nrk.no/">http://www.nrk.no/</a> &gt;, the
41 Norwegian national broadcasting cooperation? I am not sure if they
42 need one, and am just curious if such agreeement exist.</p>
43
44 <p>The postal address is</p>
45
46 <p><blockquote>
47 NRK
48 <br>Postbox 8500, Majorstuen
49 <br>0340 Oslo
50 <br>Norway
51 </blockquote></p>
52
53 <p>if it make it easier for you to locate such agreement.</p>
54
55 <p>Can you tell me how many entities in Norway have an agreement with
56 MPEG-LA, and the name of these entities?</p>
57
58 <p>--
59 <br>Happy hacking
60 <br>Petter Reinholdtsen
61 </blockquote></p>
62
63 <p>I dag, to dager senere, fikk jeg følgende svar:</p>
64
65 <p><blockquote>
66 <p>Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:11:17 +0000
67 <br>From: Ryan Rodriguez &lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com>
68 <br>To: Petter Reinholdtsen &lt;pere (at) hungry.com>
69 <br>CC: MD Administration &lt;MDAdministration (at) mpegla.com>
70 <br>Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
71
72 <p>Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,</p>
73
74 <p>Thank you for your message and for your interest in MPEG LA. We
75 appreciate hearing from you and I will be happy to assist you.</p>
76
77 <p>To begin, I will assume that you are referring to AVC/H.264
78 technology in your message below, as this technology is commonly used
79 in the transmission of video content. In that case, please allow me
80 to briefly summarize the coverage provided by our AVC Patent Portfolio
81 License.</p>
82
83 <P>Our AVC License provides coverage for end products and video
84 services that make use of AVC/H.264 technology. Accordingly, the
85 party offering such end products and video to End Users concludes the
86 AVC License and is responsible for paying the applicable royalties
87 associated with the end products/video they offer.</p>
88
89 <p>While the Norwegian Broadcast Corporation (NRK) is not currently a
90 Licensee to MPEG LA's AVC License (or any other Portfolio License
91 offered by MPEG LA), if NRK offers AVC Video to End Users for
92 remuneration (for example, Title-by-Title, Subscription, Free
93 Television, or Internet Broadcast AVC Video), then NRK will need to
94 conclude the AVC License and may be responsible for paying applicable
95 royalties associated with the AVC Video it distributes.</p>
96
97 <p>Today I will send you a FedEx package containing a copy of our AVC
98 License for your review. You should receive the License document
99 within the next few days.</p>
100
101 <p>Meanwhile, MPEG LA currently has several Norwegian Licensees that
102 can be found under the "Licensees" header within the respective
103 portion of our website. For example, you may find our list of
104 Licensees in Good Standing to our AVC License in the AVC portion of
105 our website,
106 <a href="http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensees.aspx">http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensees.aspx</a></p>
107
108 <p>I hope the above information is helpful. If you have additional
109 questions or need further assistance with the AVC License, please feel
110 free to contact me directly. I look forward to hearing from you again
111 soon.</p>
112
113 <p>Best regards,</p>
114
115 <p>Ryan</p>
116
117 <p>Ryan M. Rodriguez
118 <br>Licensing Associate
119 <br>MPEG LA
120 <br>5425 Wisconsin Avenue
121 <br>Suite 801
122 <br>Chevy Chase, MD 20815
123 <br>U.S.A.
124 <br>Phone: +1 (301) 986-6660 x211
125 <br>Fax: +1 (301) 986-8575
126 <br>Email: rrodriguez (at) mpegla.com</p>
127
128 </blockquote></p>
129
130 <p>Meldingen om utsendt FedEx-pakke var så merkelig at jeg
131 øyeblikkelig sendte svar tilbake og spurte hva i alle dager han mente,
132 da han jo ikke hadde fått noen postadresse som nådde meg.</p>
133
134 <p><blockquote>
135
136 <p>Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:36:15 +0200
137 <br>From: Petter Reinholdtsen &lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
138 <br>To: Ryan Rodriguez &lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&gt;
139 <br>Cc: MD Administration &lt;MDAdministration (at) mpegla.com&gt;
140 <br>Subject: Re: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
141
142 <p>[Ryan Rodriguez]
143 <br>&gt; Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,</p>
144
145 <p>Thank you for your quick reply.</p>
146
147 <p>&gt; Today I will send you a FedEx package containing a copy of our AVC
148 <br>&gt; License for your review. You should receive the License document
149 <br>&gt; within the next few days.</p>
150
151 <p>The part about sending a FedEx package confused me, though. I did not
152 <br>give you my address, nor am I associated with NRK in any way, so I hope
153 <br>you did not try to send me a package using the address of NRK. If you
154 <br>would send me the Internet address of to the document, it would be more
155 <br>useful to me to be able to download it as an electronic document.</p>
156
157 <p>&gt; Meanwhile, MPEG LA currently has several Norwegian Licensees that can
158 <br>&gt; be found under the "Licensees" header within the respective portion
159 <br>&gt; of our website. For example, you may find our list of Licensees in
160 <br>&gt; Good Standing to our AVC License in the AVC portion of our website,
161 <br>&gt; http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensees.aspx</p>
162
163 <p>How can I recognize the Norwegian licensees?</p>
164
165 <p>--
166 <br>Happy hacking
167 <br>Petter Reinholdtsen</p>
168 </blockquote></p>
169
170 <p>Selv om jeg svarte kun noen minutter etter at jeg fikk eposten fra
171 MPEG-LA, fikk jeg eposten under som automatisk var beskjed på min
172 siste epost. Får håpe noen likevel følger opp "FedEx-pakken". For å
173 øke sjansen for at noen revurderer utsending av pakke uten mottaker,
174 videresendte jeg min epost til swolf (at) mpegla.com, så får vi se.
175 Har ikke hørt noe mer 3 timer senere, så jeg mistenker at ingen leste
176 min epost tidsnok.</p>
177
178 <p><blockquote>
179
180 <p>Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:36:20 +0000
181 <br>From: Ryan Rodriguez &lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&gt;
182 <br>To: Petter Reinholdtsen &lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
183 <br>Subject: Automatic reply: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
184
185 <p>Thank you for your message.</p>
186
187 <p>I will be out of the office until Thursday, July 5 and will respond
188 to all messages upon my return. If this is a matter that requires
189 immediate attention, please contact Sidney Wolf (swolf (at)
190 mpegla.com)</p>
191
192 <p>Best regards,</p>
193
194 <p>Ryan</p>
195
196 <p>Ryan M. Rodriguez
197 <br>Licensing Associate
198 <br>MPEG LA</p>
199
200 </blockquote></p>
201
202 <p>Litt klokere, men fortsatt ikke klok på mitt opprinnelige spørsmål,
203 som er om en trenger avtale med MPEG-LA for å publisere eller
204 kringkaste H.264-video i Norge.</p>