1 Title: Debian Edu interview: Klaus Knopper
2 Tags: english, debian edu, intervju
5 <p>It has been a while since I managed to publish the last interview,
6 but the <ahref="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu /
7 Skolelinux</a> community is still going strong, and yesterday we had a
8 new school show up on #debian-edu to share their good experience with
9 installing Debian Edu at their school. This time I have been able to
10 get some helpful comments from the creator of Knoppix, Klaus Knopper,
11 who was involved in a Skolelinux project in Germany a few years ago.</p>
13 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?</strong></p>
15 <p>I am Klaus Knopper. I have a master degree in electrical
16 engineering, and is currently professor in information management at
17 the university of applied sciences Kaiserslautern / Germany and
18 freelance Open Source software developer and consultant.</p>
20 <p>All of this is pretty much of the work I spend my days with. Apart
21 from teaching, I'm also conducting some more or less experimental
22 projects like the <ahref="www.knoppix.org">Knoppix GNU/Linux live
23 system</a> (Debian-based like Skolelinux),
24 <ahref="http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-adriane/index-en.html">ADRIANE</a>
25 (a blind-friendly talking desktop system) and
26 <ahref="http://www.knopper.net/linbo/index-en.html">LINBO</a>
27 (Linux-based network boot console, a fast remote install and repair
28 system supporting various operating systems).</p>
30 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
33 <p>The credit for this have to go to Kurt Gramlich, who is the German
34 coordinator for Skolelinux. We were looking for an all-in-one open
35 source community-supported distribution for schools, and Kurt
36 introduced us to Skolelinux for this purpose.</p>
38 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
42 <li>Quick installation,</li>
43 <li>works (almost) out of the box,</li>
44 <li>contains many useful software packages for teaching and learning,</li>
45 <li>is a purely community-based distro and not controlled by a
47 <li>has a large number of supporters and teachers who share their
48 experience and problem solutions.</li>
51 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
55 <li>Skolelinux is - as we had to learn - not easily upgradable to
56 the next version. Opposed to its genuine Debian base, upgrading to
57 a new version means a full new installation from scratch to get it
58 working again reliably.
60 <li>Skolelinux is based on Debian/stable, and therefore always a
61 little outdated in terms of program versions compared to Edubuntu or
62 similar educational Linux distros, which rather use Debian/testing
65 <li>Skolelinux has some very self-opinionated and stubborn default
66 configuration which in my opinion adds unnecessary complexity and is
67 not always suitable for a schools needs, the preset network
68 configuration is actually a core definition feature of Skolelinux
69 and not easy to change, so schools sometimes have to change their
70 network configuration to make it "Skolelinux-compatible".
72 <li>Some proposed extensions, which were made available as
73 contribution, like secure examination mode and lecture material
74 distribution and collection, were not accepted into the mainline
75 Skolelinux development and are now not easy to maintain in the
76 future because of Skolelinux somewhat undeterministic update
79 <li>Skolelinux has only a very tiny number of base developers
80 compared to Debian.</li>
84 <p>For these reasons and experience from our project, I would now
85 rather consider using plain Debian for schools next time, until
86 Skolelinux is more closely integrated into Debian and becomes
87 upgradeable without reinstallation.</p>
89 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?</strong></p>
91 <p>GNU/Linux with LXDE desktop, bash for interactive dialog and
92 programming, texlive for documentation and correspondence,
93 occasionally LibreOffice for document format conversion. Various
94 programming languages for teaching.</p>
96 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
97 get schools to use free software?</strong></p>
99 <p>Strong arguments are
103 <li>Knowledge is free, and so should be methods and tools for
104 teaching and learning.</li>
106 <li>Students can learn with and use the same software at school, at
107 home, and at their working place without running into license or
108 conversion problems.</li>
110 <li>Closed source or proprietary software hides knowledge rather
111 than exposing it, and proprietary software vendors try to bind
112 customers to certain products. But teachers need to teach
113 science, not products.</li>
115 <li>If you have everything you for daily work as open source, what
116 would you need proprietary software for?</li>