blog/data/2012-07-05-video-mpegla-nrk.txt

   1 Title: Mer oppfølging fra MPEG-LA om avtale med dem for å kringkaste og publisere H.264-video
   2 Tags: norsk, video, opphavsrett, multimedia, web, standard, h264
   3 Date: 2012-07-05 23:50
   4
   5 <p>I føljetongen om H.264
   6 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/MPEG_LA_mener_NRK_m__ha_avtale_med_dem_for___kringkaste_og_publisere_H_264_video.html">forlot
   7 jeg leserne i undring</a> om hvor pakken fra MPEG-LA tok veien, og om
   8 hvilke selskaper i Norge som har avtale med MPEG-LA.  Da Ryan hos
   9 MPEG-LA dro på ferie sendte jeg min melding videre til hans kollega,
  10 og dagen etter fikk jeg følgende svar derfra:</p>
  11
  12 <p><blockquote>
  13 <p>Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:32:34 +0000
  14 <br>From: Sidney Wolf &lt;SWolf (at) mpegla.com&gt;
  15 <br>To: Petter Reinholdtsen &lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
  16 <br>Cc: Ryan Rodriguez &lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&gt;
  17 <br>Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
  18
  19 <p>Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,</p>
  20
  21 <p>Thank you for your message. As you know, Ryan is currently our of the
  22 office, so it will be my pleasure to assist you.</p>
  23
  24 <p>Per your request, attached please find an electronic copy of the
  25 AVC Patent Portfolio License. Please note that the electronic copy of
  26 the License is provided as a convenience and for informational
  27 purposes only. When concluding the Licenses, only the hard copies
  28 provided by MPEG LA may be used.</p>
  29
  30 <p>To your question, MPEG LA lists our Licensees on our website
  31 according to each program.  The lists are in alphabetical order, so it
  32 is very easy to search.</p>
  33
  34 <p>I hope that this was helpful. If we can be of additional
  35 assistance, please let me know.</p>
  36
  37 <p>Kind regards,</p>
  38
  39 <p>Sidney A. Wolf
  40 <br>Manager, Global Licensing
  41 <br>MPEG LA</p>
  42 </blockquote></p>
  43
  44 <p>Selv om et epostvedlegg er nyttig for mottakeren, så håpet jeg å få
  45 et dokument jeg kunne dele med alle leserne av bloggen min, og ikke et
  46 som må deles på individuell basis.  Opphavsretten krever godkjenning
  47 fra rettighetsinnehaver før en kan gjøre slikt, så dermed fulgte jeg
  48 opp med et spørsmål om dette var greit.</p>
  49
  50 <p><blockquote>
  51 <p>Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 20:25:06 +0200
  52 <br>From: Petter Reinholdtsen &lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
  53 <br>To: Sidney Wolf &lt;SWolf (at) mpegla.com&gt;
  54 <br>Cc: Ryan Rodriguez &lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&gt;
  55 <br>Subject: Re: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
  56
  57 <p>Thank you for your reply.</p>
  58
  59 <p>[Sidney Wolf]
  60 <br>&gt; Per your request, attached please find an electronic copy of the AVC
  61 <br>&gt; Patent Portfolio License. Please note that the electronic copy of
  62 <br>&gt; the License is provided as a convenience and for informational
  63 <br>&gt; purposes only. When concluding the Licenses, only the hard copies
  64 <br>&gt; provided by MPEG LA may be used.</p>
  65
  66 <p>This is useful for me to learn, but the reason I asked for the
  67 Internet address of the licensing document was to ensure I could
  68 publish a link to it when I discuss the topic of H.264 licensing here
  69 in Norway, and allow others to verify my observations.  I can not do
  70 the same with an email attachment.  Thus I would like to ask you if it
  71 is OK with MPEG LA that I publish this document on the Internet for
  72 others to read?</p>
  73
  74 <p>&gt; To your question, MPEG LA lists our Licensees on our website
  75 <br>&gt; according to each program. The lists are in alphabetical order, so
  76 <br>&gt; it is very easy to search.</p>
  77
  78 <p>I am afraid this do not help me locate Norwegian companies in the
  79 list of Licensees.  I do not know the name of all companies and
  80 organisations in Norway, and thus do not know how to locate the
  81 Norwegian ones on that list.</p>
  82
  83 <p>&gt; I hope that this was helpful. If we can be of additional assistance,
  84 <br>&gt; please let me know.</p>
  85
  86 <p>Absoutely helpful to learn more about how MPEG LA handle licensing.</p>
  87
  88 <p>--
  89 <br>Happy hacking
  90 <br>Petter Reinholdtsen</p>
  91 </blockquote></p>
  92
  93 <p>Jeg håpet også at det skulle være mulig å få vite hvilke av de
  94 mange hundre som har avtale med MPEG-LA om bruk av H.264 som holdt til
  95 i Norge.  Begge mine håp falt i grus med svaret fra MPEG-LA.
  96
  97 <p><blockquote>
  98 <p>Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:42:39 +0000
  99 <br>From: Sidney Wolf &lt;SWolf (at) mpegla.com&gt;
 100 <br>To: 'Petter Reinholdtsen' &lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
 101 <br>Cc: Ryan Rodriguez &lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&gt;
 102 <br>Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
 103
 104 <p>Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,</p>
 105
 106 <p>Thank you for your reply.</p>
 107
 108 <p>We appreciate the additional explanation you have provided and for
 109 asking our permission to publish the electronic copy of the License in
 110 advance of doing so.  Typically, MPEG LA prefers to distribute the
 111 electronic copies of our Licenses to interested parties. Therefore,
 112 please feel free to send interested parties to the AVC portion of our
 113 website, http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Intro.aspx for
 114 their further reference.</p>
 115
 116 <p>As previously mentioned, MPEG LA maintains a list of Licensees in good
 117 standing on our website according to each program. Due to the large
 118 volume of Licensees, it would be administratively impractical to
 119 provide this level of detail to interested parties.  Therefore, I am
 120 afraid we are not in a position to assist you with your request.</p>
 121
 122 <p>Kind regards,</p>
 123
 124 <p>Sidney A. Wolf
 125 <br>Manager, Global Licensing
 126 <br>MPEG LA</p>
 127 </blockquote></p>
 128
 129 <p>Men takket være epostvedlegget kunne jeg søke på Google etter
 130 setningen "WHEREAS, a video standard commonly referred to as AVC has
 131 been defined and is referred to in this Agreement as the “AVC
 132 Standard” (as more fully defined herein below)" som finnes i avtalen,
 133 og lokalisere en kopi fra 2007 av
 134 <a href="http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1342960/000119312509050004/dex1024.htm">lisensavtalen
 135 mellom MPEG-LA og DivX, Inc.</a>, slik at mine lesere kan se hvordan
 136 avtalen så ut da.  Jeg har ikke sammenlignet tekstene for å se om noe
 137 har endret seg siden den tid, men satser på at teksten er representativ.</p>
 138
 139 <p>Jeg aner fortsatt ikke hvor FedEx tok veien med pakken fra
 140 MPEG-LA.</p>
 141
 142 <p>Update 2012-07-06: Jeg er visst ikke den første som forsøker å få
 143 klarhet i problemstillinger rundt H.264, og kom nettopp over en veldig
 144 interessant bloggpost fra 2010 hos LibreVideo med tittelen
 145 "<a href="http://www.librevideo.org/blog/2010/06/14/mpeg-la-answers-some-questions-about-avch-264-licensing/">MPEG-LA
 146 answers some questions about AVC/H.264 licensing</a>.  Anbefales!</p>