From: Petter Reinholdtsen Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:43:15 +0000 (+0000) Subject: Mer om H.264-video. X-Git-Url: https://pere.pagekite.me/gitweb/homepage.git/commitdiff_plain/b6b7c90a4fbe777d194c6421364d3d241df769e9 Mer om H.264-video. --- diff --git a/blog/data/2012-06-28-video-mpegla-nrk.txt b/blog/data/2012-06-28-video-mpegla-nrk.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000000..a22c4720ec --- /dev/null +++ b/blog/data/2012-06-28-video-mpegla-nrk.txt @@ -0,0 +1,201 @@ +Title: MPEG-LA mener NRK må ha avtale med dem for å kringkaste og distribuere H.264-video +Tags: norsk, video, opphavsrett, multimedia, web, standard +Date: 2012-06-28 20:00 + +

Etter at NRK +nektet +å spore opp eventuell avtale med MPEG-LA eller andre om bruk av +MPEG/H.264-video etter at jeg ba +om innsyn i slike avtaler, tenkte jeg at i stedet for å forsøke å +få NRK til å finne en slik avtale, så burde det være like enkelt å +spørre MPEG-LA om de hadde avtale med NRK. Spørsmålet ble sendt før +jeg fikk tips fra Kieran Kunhya om hvor listen over lisensinnehavere +"in good standing" befant seg. MPEG-LA kan fortelle at NRK ikke har +avtale med dem, så da er i det miste det slått fast. Ikke +overraskende mener MPEG-LA at det trengs en avtale med MPEG-LA for å +streame H.264, men deres rammer er jo rettstilstanden i USA og ikke +Norge. Jeg tar dermed den delen av svaret med en klype salt. Er +dermed fortsatt ikke klok på om det trengs en avtale, og hvis det +trengs en avtale her i Norge, heller ikke sikker på om NRK har en +avtale med noen andre enn MPEG-LA som gjør at de ikke trenger avtale +direkte med MPEG-LA.

+ +

Her er epostutvekslingen med MPEG-LA så langt. Håper ikke NRK +plutselig får en litt uventet pakke fra MPEG-LA.

+ +

+

Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:29:37 +0200 +
From: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com> +
To: licensing-web (at) mpegla.com +
Subject: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?

+ +

Hi. I have a small question for you, that I hope it is OK that I +ask.

+ +

Is there any license agreements between MPEG-LA and NRK, <URL: +http://www.nrk.no/ >, the Norwegian national broadcasting +cooperation? I am not sure if they need one, and am just curious if +such agreeement exist.

+ +

The postal address is

+ +

+ NRK + Postbox 8500, Majorstuen + 0340 Oslo + Norway +

+ +

if it make it easier for you to locate such agreement.

+ +

Can you tell me how many entities in Norway have an agreement with +MPEG-LA, and the name of these entities?

+ +

-- +
Happy hacking +
Petter Reinholdtsen +

+ +

I dag, to dager senere, fikk jeg følgende svar:

+ +

+

Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:11:17 +0000 +
From: Ryan Rodriguez <RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com> +
To: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com> +
CC: MD Administration <MDAdministration (at) mpegla.com> +
Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?

+ +

Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,

+ +

Thank you for your message and for your interest in MPEG LA. We +appreciate hearing from you and I will be happy to assist you.

+ +

To begin, I will assume that you are referring to AVC/H.264 +technology in your message below, as this technology is commonly used +in the transmission of video content. In that case, please allow me +to briefly summarize the coverage provided by our AVC Patent Portfolio +License.

+ +

Our AVC License provides coverage for end products and video +services that make use of AVC/H.264 technology. Accordingly, the +party offering such end products and video to End Users concludes the +AVC License and is responsible for paying the applicable royalties +associated with the end products/video they offer.

+ +

While the Norwegian Broadcast Corporation (NRK) is not currently a +Licensee to MPEG LA's AVC License (or any other Portfolio License +offered by MPEG LA), if NRK offers AVC Video to End Users for +remuneration (for example, Title-by-Title, Subscription, Free +Television, or Internet Broadcast AVC Video), then NRK will need to +conclude the AVC License and may be responsible for paying applicable +royalties associated with the AVC Video it distributes.

+ +

Today I will send you a FedEx package containing a copy of our AVC +License for your review. You should receive the License document +within the next few days.

+ +

Meanwhile, MPEG LA currently has several Norwegian Licensees that +can be found under the "Licensees" header within the respective +portion of our website. For example, you may find our list of +Licensees in Good Standing to our AVC License in the AVC portion of +our website, +http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensees.aspx

+ +

I hope the above information is helpful. If you have additional +questions or need further assistance with the AVC License, please feel +free to contact me directly. I look forward to hearing from you again +soon.

+ +

Best regards,

+ +

Ryan

+ +

Ryan M. Rodriguez +
Licensing Associate +
MPEG LA +
5425 Wisconsin Avenue +
Suite 801 +
Chevy Chase, MD 20815 +
U.S.A. +
Phone: +1 (301) 986-6660 x211 +
Fax: +1 (301) 986-8575 +
Email: rrodriguez (at) mpegla.com

+ +

+ +

Meldingen om utsendt FedEx-pakke var så merkelig at jeg +øyeblikkelig sendte svar tilbake og spurte hva i alle dager han mente, +da han jo ikke hadde fått noen postadresse som nådde meg.

+ +

+ +

Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:36:15 +0200 +
From: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com> +
To: Ryan Rodriguez <RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com> +
Cc: MD Administration <MDAdministration (at) mpegla.com> +
Subject: Re: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?

+ +

[Ryan Rodriguez] +
> Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,

+ +

Thank you for your quick reply.

+ +

> Today I will send you a FedEx package containing a copy of our AVC +
> License for your review. You should receive the License document +
> within the next few days.

+ +

The part about sending a FedEx package confused me, though. I did not +
give you my address, nor am I associated with NRK in any way, so I hope +
you did not try to send me a package using the address of NRK. If you +
would send me the Internet address of to the document, it would be more +
useful to me to be able to download it as an electronic document.

+ +

> Meanwhile, MPEG LA currently has several Norwegian Licensees that can +
> be found under the "Licensees" header within the respective portion +
> of our website. For example, you may find our list of Licensees in +
> Good Standing to our AVC License in the AVC portion of our website, +
> http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensees.aspx

+ +

How can I recognize the Norwegian licensees?

+ +

-- +
Happy hacking +
Petter Reinholdtsen

+

+ +

Selv om jeg svarte kun noen minutter etter at jeg fikk eposten fra +MPEG-LA, fikk jeg eposten under som automatisk var beskjed på min +siste epost. Får håpe noen likevel følger opp "FedEx-pakken". For å +øke sjansen for at noen revurderer utsending av pakke uten mottaker, +videresendte jeg min epost til swolf (at) mpegla.com, så får vi se. +Har ikke hørt noe mer 3 timer senere, så jeg mistenker at ingen leste +min epost tidsnok.

+ +

+ +

Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:36:20 +0000 +
From: Ryan Rodriguez <RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com> +
To: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com> +
Subject: Automatic reply: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?

+ +

Thank you for your message.

+ +

I will be out of the office until Thursday, July 5 and will respond +to all messages upon my return. If this is a matter that requires +immediate attention, please contact Sidney Wolf (swolf (at) +mpegla.com)

+ +

Best regards,

+ +

Ryan

+ +

Ryan M. Rodriguez +
Licensing Associate +
MPEG LA

+ +

+ +

Litt klokere, men fortsatt ikke klok på mitt opprinnelige spørsmål, +som er om en trenger avtale med MPEG-LA for å publisere eller +kringkaste H.264-video i Norge.