+ Petter Reinholdtsen + +

Half way there with translated docbook version of Free Culture

@@ -332,14 +401,18 @@ processors. :(

diff --git a/blog/data/2012-07-11-free-culture-norsk.txt b/blog/data/2012-07-11-free-culture-norsk.txt index 5dd6c42518..0d5b4b0b6d 100644 --- a/blog/data/2012-07-11-free-culture-norsk.txt +++ b/blog/data/2012-07-11-free-culture-norsk.txt @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ Title: Dugnad for Ã¥ sende norsk versjon av Free Culture til stortingets representanter! -Tags: norsk, nuug, opphavsrett +Tags: norsk, nuug, opphavsrett, docbook, freeculture Date: 2012-07-11 09:00

Da opphavsrettsloven ble revidert i forrige runde rundt 2005, var diff --git a/blog/data/2012-07-15-free-software.txt b/blog/data/2012-07-15-free-software.txt index f86967d023..c2ff8bf775 100644 --- a/blog/data/2012-07-15-free-software.txt +++ b/blog/data/2012-07-15-free-software.txt @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ Title: Fri programvare - "fri" som i "talefrihet", ikke som i "fri bar" -Tags: norsk, nuug +Tags: norsk, nuug, freeculture Date: 2012-07-15 21:20

Et ofte brukt sitat i fri programvareverden er Stallman-sitatet diff --git a/blog/data/2012-07-16-free-culture-docbook-help.txt b/blog/data/2012-07-16-free-culture-docbook-help.txt index a7bc5e71e3..791a8d759c 100644 --- a/blog/data/2012-07-16-free-culture-docbook-help.txt +++ b/blog/data/2012-07-16-free-culture-docbook-help.txt @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ Title: Call for help from docbook expert to tag Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig -Tags: english, nuug, opphavsrett +Tags: english, nuug, opphavsrett, docbook, freeculture Date: 2012-07-16 22:50

I am currently working on a diff --git a/blog/data/2012-07-21-free-culture-status.txt b/blog/data/2012-07-21-free-culture-status.txt index dbd4cf2068..46f7e609d5 100644 --- a/blog/data/2012-07-21-free-culture-status.txt +++ b/blog/data/2012-07-21-free-culture-status.txt @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ Title: Free Culture in Norwegian - 5 chapters done, 74 percent left to do -Tags: english, nuug, opphavsrett +Tags: english, nuug, opphavsrett, docbook, freeculture Date: 2012-07-21 20:00

I reported earlier that I am working on diff --git a/blog/data/2012-07-31-docbook-help.txt b/blog/data/2012-07-31-docbook-help.txt index 8f6513ae8d..a4cc652031 100644 --- a/blog/data/2012-07-31-docbook-help.txt +++ b/blog/data/2012-07-31-docbook-help.txt @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ Title: Best way to create a docbook book? -Tags: english +Tags: english, docbook, freeculture Date: 2012-07-31 22:00

I tried to send this text to the diff --git a/blog/data/2012-08-10-docbook-nb.txt b/blog/data/2012-08-10-docbook-nb.txt index 7ba523d0d7..50e47b710c 100644 --- a/blog/data/2012-08-10-docbook-nb.txt +++ b/blog/data/2012-08-10-docbook-nb.txt @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ Title: Notes on language codes for Norwegian docbook processing... -Tags: english +Tags: english, docbook, freeculture Date: 2012-08-10 21:00

In docbook one can specify diff --git a/blog/index.html b/blog/index.html index a365bbc222..8d557a5284 100644 --- a/blog/index.html +++ b/blog/index.html @@ -19,6 +19,69 @@ +

17th August 2012

In my spare time, I currently work on a Norwegian +docbook version of the 2004 book +Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig, +to get a Norwegian text explaining the problems with the copyright law +I can give to my parents and others that are reluctant to read an +English book. It is a marvellous set of examples on how the ever +expanding copyright regulations hurt culture and society. When the +translation is done, I hope to find funding to print and ship a copy +to all the members of the Norwegian parliament, before they sit down +to debate the latest revisions to the Norwegian copyright law. This +summer I +called +for volunteers to help me, and I have been able to secure the +valuable contribution from at least one other Norwegian.

+ +

Two days ago, we finally broke the 50% mark. Then more than 50% of +the number of strings to translate (normally paragraphs, but also +titles and index entries are also counted). All parts from the +beginning up to and including chapter four is translated. So is +chapters six, seven and the conclusion. I created a graph to show the +progress:

+ +

The number of strings to translate increase as I insert the index +entries into the docbook. They were missing with the docbook version +I initially started with. There are still quite a few index entries +missing, but everyone starting with A, B, O, Z and Y are done. I +currently focus on completing the index entries, to get a complete +english version of the docbook source.

+ +

There is still need for translators and people with docbook +knowledge, to be able to get a good looking book (I still struggle +with dblatex, xmlto and docbook-xsl) as well as to do the draft +translation and proof reading. And I would like the figures to be +redrawn as SVGs to make it easy to translate them. Any SVG master +around? I am sure there are some legal terms that are unfamiliar to +me. If you want to help, please get in touch, and check out the +project files currently available from github.

+ +

If you are curious what the translated book currently look like, +the updated +PDF +and +EPUB +are published on github. The HTML version is published as well, but +github hand it out with MIME type text/plain, confusing browsers, so I +saw no point in linking to that version.

+ + + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture. + + +

Gratulerer med 19-Ã¥rsdagen, Debian!

16th August 2012

@@ -155,7 +218,7 @@ processors. :(

- Tags: english. + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture.

@@ -229,7 +292,7 @@ experimental versions of some docbook tool chain?

- Tags: english. + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture.

@@ -314,7 +377,7 @@ language.

- Tags: english, nuug, opphavsrett. + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture, nuug, opphavsrett.

@@ -399,7 +462,7 @@ send pull requests with fixes. :)

- Tags: english, nuug, opphavsrett. + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture, nuug, opphavsrett.

@@ -436,84 +499,7 @@ lille folder om temaet.

- Tags: norsk, nuug. - - -

- -

Dugnad for Ã¥ sende norsk versjon av Free Culture til stortingets representanter!

11th July 2012

Da opphavsrettsloven ble revidert i forrige runde rundt 2005, var -det skummelt Ã¥ se hvor lite stortingsrepresentantene forsto hvordan -Internet pÃ¥virket folks forhold til kulturuttrykk, og min venn Vidar -og jeg spekulert pÃ¥ at det hadde kanskje vÃ¦rt fornuftig om samtlige -representanter fikk en norsk utgave av boken -Free Culture av Lawrence Lessig -som forklarte litt om problemstillingene. Vi endte opp med Ã¥ -prioritere utvikling i -Skolelinux-prosjektet i -stedet, sÃ¥ den oversatte boken sÃ¥ aldri dagens lys. Men i forrige uke -ble jeg inspirert til Ã¥ ta opp trÃ¥den og se om det er mulig Ã¥ fÃ¥ til -bokprosjektet denne gang, da det er tydelig at kulturdepartementet i -sitt nye forsÃ¸k pÃ¥ Ã¥ gjÃ¸re opphavsrettsloven enda mer ubalansert til -fordel for forlag og store mediehus fortsatt trenger en annen vinkling -i debatten.

- -

Planen min er Ã¥ oversette boka pÃ¥ dugnad, sette den opp for -trykking med en av de mange -trykk pÃ¥ -forespÃ¸rsel-tjenestene, skaffe sponsor til Ã¥ finansiere trykking -til stortingsrepresentantene og alle som har bidratt med -oversettelser. Kanskje vi ogsÃ¥ kan fÃ¥ en avtale med et forlag om -publisering nÃ¥r boka er ferdig? Kommentarene til -Eirik -Newth og -Espen -Andersen om erfaringene med selvpublisering og trykk pÃ¥ -forespÃ¸rsel er interessante og ikke avskrekkende, og jeg mistenker at -Lulu er en grei leverandÃ¸r av -trykketjenester til prosjektet.

- -

Jeg har satt opp -et -Github-prosjekt for a lage boken, basert pÃ¥ Docbook-utgaven jeg -fant fra Hans Schou. Skolelinux har hatt byggesystem for Ã¥ lage -oversatt HTML og PDF-utgave av Docbook-bÃ¸ker i en Ã¥rrekke, sÃ¥ jeg har -kopiert og utvidet dette oppsettet. Originalteksten er i Docbook, og -oversettelsen gjÃ¸res i .po-filer med hjelp av vanlige -oversetterverktÃ¸y brukt i fri programvareverden. Dernest tar -byggesystemet over og lager PDF og EPUB-utgave av den oversatte -teksten. Resultatet kan ses i Github-prosjektet. For Ã¥ komme raskt -igang har jeg brukt maskinoversettelse av alle tekstbitene fra engelsk -til norsk, noe som grovoversatte ca. 1300 av de ca. 1700 tekstbitene -boken bestÃ¥r av. Jeg hÃ¥per nÃ¥ at flere kan bidra med Ã¥ fÃ¥ -oversettelsen pÃ¥ plass, slik at teksten kan vÃ¦re klar i lÃ¸pet av -hÃ¸sten. NÃ¥r alt er oversatt mÃ¥ teksten gjennomgÃ¥s for feil og -konsistent sprÃ¥k. Totalt er det nok mange timer som trengs for Ã¥ -gjennomfÃ¸re oversettelsen.

- -

Ãkonomien i dette er ikke avskrekkende. 169 -stortingsrepresentanter og nesten like mange varamedlemmer bÃ¸r fÃ¥ -bÃ¸ker, og estimert produduksjonskostnad for hver bok er rundt 6 EURO i -fÃ¸lge et raskt estimat fra Lulu. Jeg vet ennÃ¥ ikke hvor mange sider -det blir i stÃ¸rrelsen 5,5" x 8.5" (det er ca. 140 sider i A4-format), -sÃ¥ jeg gjettet pÃ¥ 400 sider. Jeg tror originalutgaven har nesten 400 -sider. For 169*2 eksemplarer snakker vi om en trykkekostnad pÃ¥ -ca. 2000 EURO, dvs. ca 15 000 NOK. Det burde vÃ¦re mulig Ã¥ finne en -sponsor for Ã¥ dekke en slik sum. I tillegg kommer distribusjon og -porto, som antagelig kommer pÃ¥ like mye.

- -

Kan du bidra med oversettelse og docbook-typesetting? Ta kontakt -og send patcher i github. Jeg legger gjerne inn folk i prosjektet -slik at du kan oppdatere direkte.

- - - Tags: norsk, nuug, opphavsrett. + Tags: freeculture, norsk, nuug.

@@ -545,7 +531,7 @@ slik at du kan oppdatere direkte.

@@ -670,14 +656,18 @@ slik at du kan oppdatere direkte.

diff --git a/blog/index.rss b/blog/index.rss index 1bbe71a9ea..a6349fbbc3 100644 --- a/blog/index.rss +++ b/blog/index.rss @@ -6,6 +6,63 @@ http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/ + + Half way there with translated docbook version of Free Culture + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Half_way_there_with_translated_docbook_version_of_Free_Culture.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Half_way_there_with_translated_docbook_version_of_Free_Culture.html + Fri, 17 Aug 2012 21:50:00 +0200 + In my spare time, I currently work on a Norwegian +<a href="http://www.docbook.org/">docbook</a> version of the 2004 book +<a href="http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture</a> by Lawrence Lessig, +to get a Norwegian text explaining the problems with the copyright law +I can give to my parents and others that are reluctant to read an +English book. It is a marvellous set of examples on how the ever +expanding copyright regulations hurt culture and society. When the +translation is done, I hope to find funding to print and ship a copy +to all the members of the Norwegian parliament, before they sit down +to debate the latest revisions to the Norwegian copyright law. This +summer I +<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html">called +for volunteers</a> to help me, and I have been able to secure the +valuable contribution from at least one other Norwegian. + +Two days ago, we finally broke the 50% mark. Then more than 50% of +the number of strings to translate (normally paragraphs, but also +titles and index entries are also counted). All parts from the +beginning up to and including chapter four is translated. So is +chapters six, seven and the conclusion. I created a graph to show the +progress: + +<img width="80%" align="center" src="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/raw/master/progress.png"> + +The number of strings to translate increase as I insert the index +entries into the docbook. They were missing with the docbook version +I initially started with. There are still quite a few index entries +missing, but everyone starting with A, B, O, Z and Y are done. I +currently focus on completing the index entries, to get a complete +english version of the docbook source. + +There is still need for translators and people with docbook +knowledge, to be able to get a good looking book (I still struggle +with dblatex, xmlto and docbook-xsl) as well as to do the draft +translation and proof reading. And I would like the figures to be +redrawn as SVGs to make it easy to translate them. Any SVG master +around? I am sure there are some legal terms that are unfamiliar to +me. If you want to help, please get in touch, and check out the +project files currently available from <a +href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">github</a>. + +If you are curious what the translated book currently look like, +the updated +<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/blob/master/archive/freeculture.nb.pdf?raw=true">PDF</a> +and +<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/blob/master/archive/freeculture.nb.epub?raw=true">EPUB</a> +are published on github. The HTML version is published as well, but +github hand it out with MIME type text/plain, confusing browsers, so I +saw no point in linking to that version. + + + Gratulerer med 19-Ã¥rsdagen, Debian! http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gratulerer_med_19__rsdagen__Debian_.html @@ -376,76 +433,5 @@ lille folder om temaet</a>. - - Dugnad for Ã¥ sende norsk versjon av Free Culture til stortingets representanter! - http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html - http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html - Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:00:00 +0200 - Da opphavsrettsloven ble revidert i forrige runde rundt 2005, var -det skummelt Ã¥ se hvor lite stortingsrepresentantene forsto hvordan -Internet pÃ¥virket folks forhold til kulturuttrykk, og min venn Vidar -og jeg spekulert pÃ¥ at det hadde kanskje vÃ¦rt fornuftig om samtlige -representanter fikk en norsk utgave av boken -<a href="http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture</a> av Lawrence Lessig -som forklarte litt om problemstillingene. Vi endte opp med Ã¥ -prioritere utvikling i -<a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux</a>-prosjektet i -stedet, sÃ¥ den oversatte boken sÃ¥ aldri dagens lys. Men i forrige uke -ble jeg inspirert til Ã¥ ta opp trÃ¥den og se om det er mulig Ã¥ fÃ¥ til -bokprosjektet denne gang, da det er tydelig at kulturdepartementet i -sitt nye forsÃ¸k pÃ¥ Ã¥ gjÃ¸re opphavsrettsloven enda mer ubalansert til -fordel for forlag og store mediehus fortsatt trenger en annen vinkling -i debatten. - -Planen min er Ã¥ oversette boka pÃ¥ dugnad, sette den opp for -trykking med en av de mange -<a href="http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trykk_pÃ¥_forespÃ¸rsel">trykk pÃ¥ -forespÃ¸rsel</a>-tjenestene, skaffe sponsor til Ã¥ finansiere trykking -til stortingsrepresentantene og alle som har bidratt med -oversettelser. Kanskje vi ogsÃ¥ kan fÃ¥ en avtale med et forlag om -publisering nÃ¥r boka er ferdig? Kommentarene til -<a href="http://newth.net/eirik/2011/04/01/e-selvpublisering/">Eirik -Newth</a> og -<a href="http://www.espen.com/norskblogg/archives/2008/09/erfaringer_med_publishing_on_demand.html">Espen -Andersen</a> om erfaringene med selvpublisering og trykk pÃ¥ -forespÃ¸rsel er interessante og ikke avskrekkende, og jeg mistenker at -<a href="http://www.lulu.com/">Lulu</a> er en grei leverandÃ¸r av -trykketjenester til prosjektet. - -Jeg har satt opp -<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">et -Github-prosjekt</a> for a lage boken, basert pÃ¥ Docbook-utgaven jeg -fant fra Hans Schou. Skolelinux har hatt byggesystem for Ã¥ lage -oversatt HTML og PDF-utgave av Docbook-bÃ¸ker i en Ã¥rrekke, sÃ¥ jeg har -kopiert og utvidet dette oppsettet. Originalteksten er i Docbook, og -oversettelsen gjÃ¸res i .po-filer med hjelp av vanlige -oversetterverktÃ¸y brukt i fri programvareverden. Dernest tar -byggesystemet over og lager PDF og EPUB-utgave av den oversatte -teksten. Resultatet kan ses i Github-prosjektet. For Ã¥ komme raskt -igang har jeg brukt maskinoversettelse av alle tekstbitene fra engelsk -til norsk, noe som grovoversatte ca. 1300 av de ca. 1700 tekstbitene -boken bestÃ¥r av. Jeg hÃ¥per nÃ¥ at flere kan bidra med Ã¥ fÃ¥ -oversettelsen pÃ¥ plass, slik at teksten kan vÃ¦re klar i lÃ¸pet av -hÃ¸sten. NÃ¥r alt er oversatt mÃ¥ teksten gjennomgÃ¥s for feil og -konsistent sprÃ¥k. Totalt er det nok mange timer som trengs for Ã¥ -gjennomfÃ¸re oversettelsen. - -Ãkonomien i dette er ikke avskrekkende. 169 -stortingsrepresentanter og nesten like mange varamedlemmer bÃ¸r fÃ¥ -bÃ¸ker, og estimert produduksjonskostnad for hver bok er rundt 6 EURO i -fÃ¸lge et raskt estimat fra Lulu. Jeg vet ennÃ¥ ikke hvor mange sider -det blir i stÃ¸rrelsen 5,5" x 8.5" (det er ca. 140 sider i A4-format), -sÃ¥ jeg gjettet pÃ¥ 400 sider. Jeg tror originalutgaven har nesten 400 -sider. For 169*2 eksemplarer snakker vi om en trykkekostnad pÃ¥ -ca. 2000 EURO, dvs. ca 15 000 NOK. Det burde vÃ¦re mulig Ã¥ finne en -sponsor for Ã¥ dekke en slik sum. I tillegg kommer distribusjon og -porto, som antagelig kommer pÃ¥ like mye. - -Kan du bidra med oversettelse og docbook-typesetting? Ta kontakt -og send patcher i github. Jeg legger gjerne inn folk i prosjektet -slik at du kan oppdatere direkte. - - - diff --git a/blog/jXplorer__a_very_nice_LDAP_GUI.html b/blog/jXplorer__a_very_nice_LDAP_GUI.html index 425328fafa..edb277cc77 100644 --- a/blog/jXplorer__a_very_nice_LDAP_GUI.html +++ b/blog/jXplorer__a_very_nice_LDAP_GUI.html @@ -68,7 +68,7 @@ and remove the failing query. Nothing big, but very annoying.

@@ -193,14 +193,18 @@ and remove the failing query. Nothing big, but very annoying.

diff --git a/blog/sitemap.xml b/blog/sitemap.xml index 08a85d0079..ec34f59061 100644 --- a/blog/sitemap.xml +++ b/blog/sitemap.xml @@ -620,6 +620,11 @@ 0.50 weekly + + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Half_way_there_with_translated_docbook_version_of_Free_Culture.html + 0.50 + weekly + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Hamar_kommune_imponerer_i_FiksGataMi_rapportert_problem_i_dag.html 0.50 diff --git a/blog/systemd__an_interesting_alternative_to_upstart.html b/blog/systemd__an_interesting_alternative_to_upstart.html index ef93280db1..0fce1d1b42 100644 --- a/blog/systemd__an_interesting_alternative_to_upstart.html +++ b/blog/systemd__an_interesting_alternative_to_upstart.html @@ -86,7 +86,7 @@ with parallel booting enabled by default.

@@ -211,14 +211,18 @@ with parallel booting enabled by default.

diff --git a/blog/tags/3d-printer/index.html b/blog/tags/3d-printer/index.html index aeccb9bd3e..5673502c7e 100644 --- a/blog/tags/3d-printer/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/3d-printer/index.html @@ -620,7 +620,7 @@ hÃ¥per det ikke gÃ¥r tapt pÃ¥ samme vis.

@@ -745,14 +745,18 @@ hÃ¥per det ikke gÃ¥r tapt pÃ¥ samme vis.

diff --git a/blog/tags/amiga/index.html b/blog/tags/amiga/index.html index aa0e6dc57e..cfd85dd2f7 100644 --- a/blog/tags/amiga/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/amiga/index.html @@ -74,7 +74,7 @@ pakke. Kanskje Aros kunne vÃ¦rt interessant for et NUUG-foredrag?

@@ -199,14 +199,18 @@ pakke. Kanskje Aros kunne vÃ¦rt interessant for et NUUG-foredrag?

diff --git a/blog/tags/aros/index.html b/blog/tags/aros/index.html index aa6ee606af..8fbf097f2d 100644 --- a/blog/tags/aros/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/aros/index.html @@ -74,7 +74,7 @@ pakke. Kanskje Aros kunne vÃ¦rt interessant for et NUUG-foredrag?

@@ -199,14 +199,18 @@ pakke. Kanskje Aros kunne vÃ¦rt interessant for et NUUG-foredrag?

diff --git a/blog/tags/bitcoin/index.html b/blog/tags/bitcoin/index.html index 5987d77c0a..dc6e9691b1 100644 --- a/blog/tags/bitcoin/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/bitcoin/index.html @@ -203,7 +203,7 @@ donations to the address

@@ -328,14 +328,18 @@ donations to the address

diff --git a/blog/tags/bootsystem/index.html b/blog/tags/bootsystem/index.html index 7deab0c6bd..301c55006d 100644 --- a/blog/tags/bootsystem/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/bootsystem/index.html @@ -781,7 +781,7 @@ insserv'. Will need to test if that work. :)

@@ -906,14 +906,18 @@ insserv'. Will need to test if that work. :)

diff --git a/blog/tags/bsa/index.html b/blog/tags/bsa/index.html index dd2a761aae..3c8c2ac39d 100644 --- a/blog/tags/bsa/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/bsa/index.html @@ -162,7 +162,7 @@ pÃ¥ Slashdot.

@@ -287,14 +287,18 @@ pÃ¥ Slashdot.

diff --git a/blog/tags/debian edu/index.html b/blog/tags/debian edu/index.html index 0175d34866..cd5640c104 100644 --- a/blog/tags/debian edu/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/debian edu/index.html @@ -9978,7 +9978,7 @@ be the only one fitting our needs. :/

@@ -10103,14 +10103,18 @@ be the only one fitting our needs. :/

diff --git a/blog/tags/debian/index.html b/blog/tags/debian/index.html index 77fda511ae..3089455035 100644 --- a/blog/tags/debian/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/debian/index.html @@ -4385,7 +4385,7 @@ be the only one fitting our needs. :/

@@ -4510,14 +4510,18 @@ be the only one fitting our needs. :/

diff --git a/blog/tags/digistan/index.html b/blog/tags/digistan/index.html index 42f83931ba..c17c0b4b2d 100644 --- a/blog/tags/digistan/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/digistan/index.html @@ -1182,7 +1182,7 @@ produkter basert pÃ¥ standarden.

@@ -1307,14 +1307,18 @@ produkter basert pÃ¥ standarden.

diff --git a/blog/tags/docbook/docbook.rss b/blog/tags/docbook/docbook.rss new file mode 100644 index 0000000000..77ef2697c9 --- /dev/null +++ b/blog/tags/docbook/docbook.rss @@ -0,0 +1,315 @@ + + + + Petter Reinholdtsen - Entries tagged docbook + Entries tagged docbook + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/ + + + + Half way there with translated docbook version of Free Culture + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Half_way_there_with_translated_docbook_version_of_Free_Culture.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Half_way_there_with_translated_docbook_version_of_Free_Culture.html + Fri, 17 Aug 2012 21:50:00 +0200 + In my spare time, I currently work on a Norwegian +<a href="http://www.docbook.org/">docbook</a> version of the 2004 book +<a href="http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture</a> by Lawrence Lessig, +to get a Norwegian text explaining the problems with the copyright law +I can give to my parents and others that are reluctant to read an +English book. It is a marvellous set of examples on how the ever +expanding copyright regulations hurt culture and society. When the +translation is done, I hope to find funding to print and ship a copy +to all the members of the Norwegian parliament, before they sit down +to debate the latest revisions to the Norwegian copyright law. This +summer I +<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html">called +for volunteers</a> to help me, and I have been able to secure the +valuable contribution from at least one other Norwegian. + +Two days ago, we finally broke the 50% mark. Then more than 50% of +the number of strings to translate (normally paragraphs, but also +titles and index entries are also counted). All parts from the +beginning up to and including chapter four is translated. So is +chapters six, seven and the conclusion. I created a graph to show the +progress: + +<img width="80%" align="center" src="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/raw/master/progress.png"> + +The number of strings to translate increase as I insert the index +entries into the docbook. They were missing with the docbook version +I initially started with. There are still quite a few index entries +missing, but everyone starting with A, B, O, Z and Y are done. I +currently focus on completing the index entries, to get a complete +english version of the docbook source. + +There is still need for translators and people with docbook +knowledge, to be able to get a good looking book (I still struggle +with dblatex, xmlto and docbook-xsl) as well as to do the draft +translation and proof reading. And I would like the figures to be +redrawn as SVGs to make it easy to translate them. Any SVG master +around? I am sure there are some legal terms that are unfamiliar to +me. If you want to help, please get in touch, and check out the +project files currently available from <a +href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">github</a>. + +If you are curious what the translated book currently look like, +the updated +<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/blob/master/archive/freeculture.nb.pdf?raw=true">PDF</a> +and +<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/blob/master/archive/freeculture.nb.epub?raw=true">EPUB</a> +are published on github. The HTML version is published as well, but +github hand it out with MIME type text/plain, confusing browsers, so I +saw no point in linking to that version. + + + + + Notes on language codes for Norwegian docbook processing... + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Notes_on_language_codes_for_Norwegian_docbook_processing___.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Notes_on_language_codes_for_Norwegian_docbook_processing___.html + Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:00:00 +0200 + In <a href="http://www.docbook.org/">docbook</a> one can specify +the language used at the top, and the processing pipeline will use +this information to pick the correct translations for 'chapter', 'see +also', 'index' etc. And for most languages used with docbook, I guess +this work just fine. For example a German user can start the document +with <book lang="de">, and the document will show up with the +correct content with any of the docbook processors. This is not the +case for the language +<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Free_Culture_in_Norwegian___5_chapters_done__74_percent_left_to_do.html">I +am working with at the moment</a>, Norwegian BokmÃ¥l. + +For a while, I was confused about which language code to use, +because I was unable to find any language code that would work across +all tools. I am currently testing dblatex, xmlto, docbook-xsl, and +dbtoepub, and they do not handle Norwegian BokmÃ¥l the same way. Some +of them do not handle it at all. + +A bit of background information is probably needed to understand +this mess. Norwegian is not one, but two written variants. The +variants are Norwegian Nynorsk and Norwegian BokmÃ¥l. There are three +two letter language codes associated with these languages, Norwegian +is 'no', Norwegian Nynorsk is 'nn' and Norwegian BokmÃ¥l is 'nb'. +Historically the 'no' language code was used for Norwegian BokmÃ¥l, but +many years ago this was found to be Ã¥ bad idea, and the recommendation +is to use the most specific language code instead, to avoid confusion. +In the transition period it is a good idea to make sure 'no' was an +alias for 'nb'. + +Back to docbook processing tools in Debian. The dblatex tool only +understand 'nn'. There are translations for 'no', but not 'nb' (BTS +<a href="http://bugs.debian.org/684391">#684391</a>), but due to a bug +(BTS <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/682936">#682936</a>) the 'no' +language code is not recognised. The docbook-xsl tool chain only +recognise 'nn' and 'nb', but not 'no'. The xmlto tool only recognise +'nn' and 'nb', but not 'no'. The end result that there is no language +code I can use to get the docbook file working with all of these tools +at the same time. :( + +The correct solution is to use <book lang="nb">, but it will +take time before that will work with all the free software docbook +processors. :( + +Oh, the joy of well integrated tools. :/ + + + + + Best way to create a docbook book? + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Best_way_to_create_a_docbook_book_.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Best_way_to_create_a_docbook_book_.html + Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:00:00 +0200 + I tried to send this text to the +<a href="https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/">docbook-apps +mailing list at lists.oasis-open.org</a>, but it only accept messages +from subscribers and rejected my post, and I completely lack the +bandwidth required to subscribe to another mailing list, so instead I +try to post my message here and hope my blog readers can help me +out. + +I am quite new to docbook processing, and am climbing a steep +learning curve at the moment. + +To give you some background, I am working on a Norwegian +translation of the book Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig, and I use +docbook to handle the process. The files to build the book are +available from +<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">github</a>. +The book got around 400 pages with parts, images, footnotes, tables, +index entries etc, which has proven to be a challenge for the free +software docbook processors. My build platform is Debian GNU/Linux +Squeeze. + +I want to build PDF, EPUB and HTML version of the book, and have +tried different tool chains to do the conversion from docbook to these +formats. I am currently focusing on the PDF version, and have a few +problems. + +<ul> + +<li>Using dblatex, the <part> handling is not the way I want to, + as </part> do not really end the <part>. (See + <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/683166">BTS report #683166</a>), the + xetex backend (needed to process UTF-8) give incorrect hyphens in + index references spanning several pages (See + <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/682901">BTS report #682901</a>), and + I am unable to get the norwegian template texts (See + <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/682936">BTS report #682936</a>).</li> + +<li>Using straight xmlto fail with some latex error (See + <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/683163">BTS report + #683163</a>).</li> + +<li>Using xmlto with the fop backend fail to handle images (do not + show up in the PDF), fail to handle a long footnote (overlap + footnote and text body, see + <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/683197">BTS report #683197</a>), and + fail to create a correct index (some lack page ref, and the page + refs listed are not right).</li> + +<li>Using xmlto with the dblatex backend behave like dblatex.</li> + +<li>Using docbook-xls with xsltproc + fop have the same footnote and + index problems the xmlto + fop processing.</li> + +</ul> + +So I wonder, what would be the best way to create the PDF version +of this book? Are some of the bugs found above solved in new or +experimental versions of some docbook tool chain? + +What about HTML and EPUB versions? + + + + + Free Culture in Norwegian - 5 chapters done, 74 percent left to do + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Free_Culture_in_Norwegian___5_chapters_done__74_percent_left_to_do.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Free_Culture_in_Norwegian___5_chapters_done__74_percent_left_to_do.html + Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:00:00 +0200 + I reported earlier that I am working on +<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html">a +norwegian version</a> of the book +<a href="http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture</a> by Lawrence Lessig. +Progress is good, and yesterday I got a major contribution from Anders +Hagen Jarmund completing chapter six. The source files as well as a +PDF and EPUB version of this book are available from +<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">github</a>. + +I am happy to report that the draft for the first two chapters +(preface, introduction) is complete, and three other chapters are also +completely translated. This completes 26 percent of the number of +strings (equivalent to paragraphs) in the book, and there is thus 74 +percent left to translate. A graph of the progress is present at the +bottom of the github project page. There is still room for more +contributors. Get in touch or send github pull requests with fixes if +you got time and are willing to help make this book make it to +print. :) + +The book translation framework could also be a good basis for other +translations, if you want the book to be available in your +language. + + + + + Call for help from docbook expert to tag Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Call_for_help_from_docbook_expert_to_tag_Free_Culture_by_Lawrence_Lessig.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Call_for_help_from_docbook_expert_to_tag_Free_Culture_by_Lawrence_Lessig.html + Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:50:00 +0200 + I am currently working on a +<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html">project +to translate</a> the book +<a href="http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture</a> by Lawrence Lessig +to Norwegian. And the source we base our translation on is the +<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DocBook">docbook</a> version, to +allow us to use po4a and .po files to handle the translation, and for +this to work well the docbook source document need to be properly +tagged. The source files of this project is available from +<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">github</a>. + +The problem is that the docbook source have flaws, and we have +no-one involved in the project that is a docbook expert. Is there a +docbook expert somewhere that is interested in helping us create a +well tagged docbook version of the book, and adjust our build process +for the PDF, EPUB and HTML version of the book? This will provide a +well tagged English version (our source document), and make it a lot +easier for us to create a good Norwegian version. If you can and want +to help, please get in touch with me or fork the github project and +send pull requests with fixes. :) + + + + + Dugnad for Ã¥ sende norsk versjon av Free Culture til stortingets representanter! + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html + Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:00:00 +0200 + Da opphavsrettsloven ble revidert i forrige runde rundt 2005, var +det skummelt Ã¥ se hvor lite stortingsrepresentantene forsto hvordan +Internet pÃ¥virket folks forhold til kulturuttrykk, og min venn Vidar +og jeg spekulert pÃ¥ at det hadde kanskje vÃ¦rt fornuftig om samtlige +representanter fikk en norsk utgave av boken +<a href="http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture</a> av Lawrence Lessig +som forklarte litt om problemstillingene. Vi endte opp med Ã¥ +prioritere utvikling i +<a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux</a>-prosjektet i +stedet, sÃ¥ den oversatte boken sÃ¥ aldri dagens lys. Men i forrige uke +ble jeg inspirert til Ã¥ ta opp trÃ¥den og se om det er mulig Ã¥ fÃ¥ til +bokprosjektet denne gang, da det er tydelig at kulturdepartementet i +sitt nye forsÃ¸k pÃ¥ Ã¥ gjÃ¸re opphavsrettsloven enda mer ubalansert til +fordel for forlag og store mediehus fortsatt trenger en annen vinkling +i debatten. + +Planen min er Ã¥ oversette boka pÃ¥ dugnad, sette den opp for +trykking med en av de mange +<a href="http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trykk_pÃ¥_forespÃ¸rsel">trykk pÃ¥ +forespÃ¸rsel</a>-tjenestene, skaffe sponsor til Ã¥ finansiere trykking +til stortingsrepresentantene og alle som har bidratt med +oversettelser. Kanskje vi ogsÃ¥ kan fÃ¥ en avtale med et forlag om +publisering nÃ¥r boka er ferdig? Kommentarene til +<a href="http://newth.net/eirik/2011/04/01/e-selvpublisering/">Eirik +Newth</a> og +<a href="http://www.espen.com/norskblogg/archives/2008/09/erfaringer_med_publishing_on_demand.html">Espen +Andersen</a> om erfaringene med selvpublisering og trykk pÃ¥ +forespÃ¸rsel er interessante og ikke avskrekkende, og jeg mistenker at +<a href="http://www.lulu.com/">Lulu</a> er en grei leverandÃ¸r av +trykketjenester til prosjektet. + +Jeg har satt opp +<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">et +Github-prosjekt</a> for a lage boken, basert pÃ¥ Docbook-utgaven jeg +fant fra Hans Schou. Skolelinux har hatt byggesystem for Ã¥ lage +oversatt HTML og PDF-utgave av Docbook-bÃ¸ker i en Ã¥rrekke, sÃ¥ jeg har +kopiert og utvidet dette oppsettet. Originalteksten er i Docbook, og +oversettelsen gjÃ¸res i .po-filer med hjelp av vanlige +oversetterverktÃ¸y brukt i fri programvareverden. Dernest tar +byggesystemet over og lager PDF og EPUB-utgave av den oversatte +teksten. Resultatet kan ses i Github-prosjektet. For Ã¥ komme raskt +igang har jeg brukt maskinoversettelse av alle tekstbitene fra engelsk +til norsk, noe som grovoversatte ca. 1300 av de ca. 1700 tekstbitene +boken bestÃ¥r av. Jeg hÃ¥per nÃ¥ at flere kan bidra med Ã¥ fÃ¥ +oversettelsen pÃ¥ plass, slik at teksten kan vÃ¦re klar i lÃ¸pet av +hÃ¸sten. NÃ¥r alt er oversatt mÃ¥ teksten gjennomgÃ¥s for feil og +konsistent sprÃ¥k. Totalt er det nok mange timer som trengs for Ã¥ +gjennomfÃ¸re oversettelsen. + +Ãkonomien i dette er ikke avskrekkende. 169 +stortingsrepresentanter og nesten like mange varamedlemmer bÃ¸r fÃ¥ +bÃ¸ker, og estimert produduksjonskostnad for hver bok er rundt 6 EURO i +fÃ¸lge et raskt estimat fra Lulu. Jeg vet ennÃ¥ ikke hvor mange sider +det blir i stÃ¸rrelsen 5,5" x 8.5" (det er ca. 140 sider i A4-format), +sÃ¥ jeg gjettet pÃ¥ 400 sider. Jeg tror originalutgaven har nesten 400 +sider. For 169*2 eksemplarer snakker vi om en trykkekostnad pÃ¥ +ca. 2000 EURO, dvs. ca 15 000 NOK. Det burde vÃ¦re mulig Ã¥ finne en +sponsor for Ã¥ dekke en slik sum. I tillegg kommer distribusjon og +porto, som antagelig kommer pÃ¥ like mye. + +Kan du bidra med oversettelse og docbook-typesetting? Ta kontakt +og send patcher i github. Jeg legger gjerne inn folk i prosjektet +slik at du kan oppdatere direkte. + + + + + diff --git a/blog/tags/docbook/index.html b/blog/tags/docbook/index.html new file mode 100644 index 0000000000..f24f139abd --- /dev/null +++ b/blog/tags/docbook/index.html @@ -0,0 +1,633 @@ + + + + + Petter Reinholdtsen: Entries Tagged docbook + + + + + +

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+ Half way there with translated docbook version of Free Culture +

+ 17th August 2012 +

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+ + + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture. + + +

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+ Notes on language codes for Norwegian docbook processing... +

+ 10th August 2012 +

In docbook one can specify +the language used at the top, and the processing pipeline will use +this information to pick the correct translations for 'chapter', 'see +also', 'index' etc. And for most languages used with docbook, I guess +this work just fine. For example a German user can start the document +with <book lang="de">, and the document will show up with the +correct content with any of the docbook processors. This is not the +case for the language +I +am working with at the moment, Norwegian BokmÃ¥l.

+ +

For a while, I was confused about which language code to use, +because I was unable to find any language code that would work across +all tools. I am currently testing dblatex, xmlto, docbook-xsl, and +dbtoepub, and they do not handle Norwegian BokmÃ¥l the same way. Some +of them do not handle it at all.

+ +

A bit of background information is probably needed to understand +this mess. Norwegian is not one, but two written variants. The +variants are Norwegian Nynorsk and Norwegian BokmÃ¥l. There are three +two letter language codes associated with these languages, Norwegian +is 'no', Norwegian Nynorsk is 'nn' and Norwegian BokmÃ¥l is 'nb'. +Historically the 'no' language code was used for Norwegian BokmÃ¥l, but +many years ago this was found to be Ã¥ bad idea, and the recommendation +is to use the most specific language code instead, to avoid confusion. +In the transition period it is a good idea to make sure 'no' was an +alias for 'nb'.

+ +

Back to docbook processing tools in Debian. The dblatex tool only +understand 'nn'. There are translations for 'no', but not 'nb' (BTS +#684391), but due to a bug +(BTS #682936) the 'no' +language code is not recognised. The docbook-xsl tool chain only +recognise 'nn' and 'nb', but not 'no'. The xmlto tool only recognise +'nn' and 'nb', but not 'no'. The end result that there is no language +code I can use to get the docbook file working with all of these tools +at the same time. :(

+ +

The correct solution is to use <book lang="nb">, but it will +take time before that will work with all the free software docbook +processors. :(

+ +

Oh, the joy of well integrated tools. :/

+ +

+ + + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture. + + +

+ +

+ Best way to create a docbook book? +

+ 31st July 2012 +

I tried to send this text to the +docbook-apps +mailing list at lists.oasis-open.org, but it only accept messages +from subscribers and rejected my post, and I completely lack the +bandwidth required to subscribe to another mailing list, so instead I +try to post my message here and hope my blog readers can help me +out.

+ +

I am quite new to docbook processing, and am climbing a steep +learning curve at the moment.

+ +

To give you some background, I am working on a Norwegian +translation of the book Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig, and I use +docbook to handle the process. The files to build the book are +available from +github. +The book got around 400 pages with parts, images, footnotes, tables, +index entries etc, which has proven to be a challenge for the free +software docbook processors. My build platform is Debian GNU/Linux +Squeeze.

+ +

I want to build PDF, EPUB and HTML version of the book, and have +tried different tool chains to do the conversion from docbook to these +formats. I am currently focusing on the PDF version, and have a few +problems.

+ +

Using dblatex, the <part> handling is not the way I want to, + as </part> do not really end the <part>. (See + BTS report #683166), the + xetex backend (needed to process UTF-8) give incorrect hyphens in + index references spanning several pages (See + BTS report #682901), and + I am unable to get the norwegian template texts (See + BTS report #682936).
Using straight xmlto fail with some latex error (See + BTS report + #683163).
Using xmlto with the fop backend fail to handle images (do not + show up in the PDF), fail to handle a long footnote (overlap + footnote and text body, see + BTS report #683197), and + fail to create a correct index (some lack page ref, and the page + refs listed are not right).
Using xmlto with the dblatex backend behave like dblatex.
Using docbook-xls with xsltproc + fop have the same footnote and + index problems the xmlto + fop processing.

+ +

So I wonder, what would be the best way to create the PDF version +of this book? Are some of the bugs found above solved in new or +experimental versions of some docbook tool chain?

+ +

What about HTML and EPUB versions?

+ +

+ + + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture. + + +

+ +

+ Free Culture in Norwegian - 5 chapters done, 74 percent left to do +

+ 21st July 2012 +

I reported earlier that I am working on +a +norwegian version of the book +Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig. +Progress is good, and yesterday I got a major contribution from Anders +Hagen Jarmund completing chapter six. The source files as well as a +PDF and EPUB version of this book are available from +github.

+ +

I am happy to report that the draft for the first two chapters +(preface, introduction) is complete, and three other chapters are also +completely translated. This completes 26 percent of the number of +strings (equivalent to paragraphs) in the book, and there is thus 74 +percent left to translate. A graph of the progress is present at the +bottom of the github project page. There is still room for more +contributors. Get in touch or send github pull requests with fixes if +you got time and are willing to help make this book make it to +print. :)

+ +

The book translation framework could also be a good basis for other +translations, if you want the book to be available in your +language.

+ +

+ + + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture, nuug, opphavsrett. + + +

+ +

+ Call for help from docbook expert to tag Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig +

+ 16th July 2012 +

I am currently working on a +project +to translate the book +Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig +to Norwegian. And the source we base our translation on is the +docbook version, to +allow us to use po4a and .po files to handle the translation, and for +this to work well the docbook source document need to be properly +tagged. The source files of this project is available from +github.

+ +

The problem is that the docbook source have flaws, and we have +no-one involved in the project that is a docbook expert. Is there a +docbook expert somewhere that is interested in helping us create a +well tagged docbook version of the book, and adjust our build process +for the PDF, EPUB and HTML version of the book? This will provide a +well tagged English version (our source document), and make it a lot +easier for us to create a good Norwegian version. If you can and want +to help, please get in touch with me or fork the github project and +send pull requests with fixes. :)

+ +

+ + + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture, nuug, opphavsrett. + + +

+ +

+ Dugnad for Ã¥ sende norsk versjon av Free Culture til stortingets representanter! +

+ 11th July 2012 +

Da opphavsrettsloven ble revidert i forrige runde rundt 2005, var +det skummelt Ã¥ se hvor lite stortingsrepresentantene forsto hvordan +Internet pÃ¥virket folks forhold til kulturuttrykk, og min venn Vidar +og jeg spekulert pÃ¥ at det hadde kanskje vÃ¦rt fornuftig om samtlige +representanter fikk en norsk utgave av boken +Free Culture av Lawrence Lessig +som forklarte litt om problemstillingene. Vi endte opp med Ã¥ +prioritere utvikling i +Skolelinux-prosjektet i +stedet, sÃ¥ den oversatte boken sÃ¥ aldri dagens lys. Men i forrige uke +ble jeg inspirert til Ã¥ ta opp trÃ¥den og se om det er mulig Ã¥ fÃ¥ til +bokprosjektet denne gang, da det er tydelig at kulturdepartementet i +sitt nye forsÃ¸k pÃ¥ Ã¥ gjÃ¸re opphavsrettsloven enda mer ubalansert til +fordel for forlag og store mediehus fortsatt trenger en annen vinkling +i debatten.

+ +

Planen min er Ã¥ oversette boka pÃ¥ dugnad, sette den opp for +trykking med en av de mange +trykk pÃ¥ +forespÃ¸rsel-tjenestene, skaffe sponsor til Ã¥ finansiere trykking +til stortingsrepresentantene og alle som har bidratt med +oversettelser. Kanskje vi ogsÃ¥ kan fÃ¥ en avtale med et forlag om +publisering nÃ¥r boka er ferdig? Kommentarene til +Eirik +Newth og +Espen +Andersen om erfaringene med selvpublisering og trykk pÃ¥ +forespÃ¸rsel er interessante og ikke avskrekkende, og jeg mistenker at +Lulu er en grei leverandÃ¸r av +trykketjenester til prosjektet.

+ +

Jeg har satt opp +et +Github-prosjekt for a lage boken, basert pÃ¥ Docbook-utgaven jeg +fant fra Hans Schou. Skolelinux har hatt byggesystem for Ã¥ lage +oversatt HTML og PDF-utgave av Docbook-bÃ¸ker i en Ã¥rrekke, sÃ¥ jeg har +kopiert og utvidet dette oppsettet. Originalteksten er i Docbook, og +oversettelsen gjÃ¸res i .po-filer med hjelp av vanlige +oversetterverktÃ¸y brukt i fri programvareverden. Dernest tar +byggesystemet over og lager PDF og EPUB-utgave av den oversatte +teksten. Resultatet kan ses i Github-prosjektet. For Ã¥ komme raskt +igang har jeg brukt maskinoversettelse av alle tekstbitene fra engelsk +til norsk, noe som grovoversatte ca. 1300 av de ca. 1700 tekstbitene +boken bestÃ¥r av. Jeg hÃ¥per nÃ¥ at flere kan bidra med Ã¥ fÃ¥ +oversettelsen pÃ¥ plass, slik at teksten kan vÃ¦re klar i lÃ¸pet av +hÃ¸sten. NÃ¥r alt er oversatt mÃ¥ teksten gjennomgÃ¥s for feil og +konsistent sprÃ¥k. Totalt er det nok mange timer som trengs for Ã¥ +gjennomfÃ¸re oversettelsen.

+ +

Ãkonomien i dette er ikke avskrekkende. 169 +stortingsrepresentanter og nesten like mange varamedlemmer bÃ¸r fÃ¥ +bÃ¸ker, og estimert produduksjonskostnad for hver bok er rundt 6 EURO i +fÃ¸lge et raskt estimat fra Lulu. Jeg vet ennÃ¥ ikke hvor mange sider +det blir i stÃ¸rrelsen 5,5" x 8.5" (det er ca. 140 sider i A4-format), +sÃ¥ jeg gjettet pÃ¥ 400 sider. Jeg tror originalutgaven har nesten 400 +sider. For 169*2 eksemplarer snakker vi om en trykkekostnad pÃ¥ +ca. 2000 EURO, dvs. ca 15 000 NOK. Det burde vÃ¦re mulig Ã¥ finne en +sponsor for Ã¥ dekke en slik sum. I tillegg kommer distribusjon og +porto, som antagelig kommer pÃ¥ like mye.

+ +

Kan du bidra med oversettelse og docbook-typesetting? Ta kontakt +og send patcher i github. Jeg legger gjerne inn folk i prosjektet +slik at du kan oppdatere direkte.

+ +

+ + + Tags: docbook, freeculture, norsk, nuug, opphavsrett. + + +

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diff --git a/blog/tags/english/english.rss b/blog/tags/english/english.rss index 49e435f57d..b1d265867f 100644 --- a/blog/tags/english/english.rss +++ b/blog/tags/english/english.rss @@ -6,6 +6,63 @@ http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/ + + Half way there with translated docbook version of Free Culture + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Half_way_there_with_translated_docbook_version_of_Free_Culture.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Half_way_there_with_translated_docbook_version_of_Free_Culture.html + Fri, 17 Aug 2012 21:50:00 +0200 + In my spare time, I currently work on a Norwegian +<a href="http://www.docbook.org/">docbook</a> version of the 2004 book +<a href="http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture</a> by Lawrence Lessig, +to get a Norwegian text explaining the problems with the copyright law +I can give to my parents and others that are reluctant to read an +English book. It is a marvellous set of examples on how the ever +expanding copyright regulations hurt culture and society. When the +translation is done, I hope to find funding to print and ship a copy +to all the members of the Norwegian parliament, before they sit down +to debate the latest revisions to the Norwegian copyright law. This +summer I +<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html">called +for volunteers</a> to help me, and I have been able to secure the +valuable contribution from at least one other Norwegian. + +Two days ago, we finally broke the 50% mark. Then more than 50% of +the number of strings to translate (normally paragraphs, but also +titles and index entries are also counted). All parts from the +beginning up to and including chapter four is translated. So is +chapters six, seven and the conclusion. I created a graph to show the +progress: + +<img width="80%" align="center" src="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/raw/master/progress.png"> + +The number of strings to translate increase as I insert the index +entries into the docbook. They were missing with the docbook version +I initially started with. There are still quite a few index entries +missing, but everyone starting with A, B, O, Z and Y are done. I +currently focus on completing the index entries, to get a complete +english version of the docbook source. + +There is still need for translators and people with docbook +knowledge, to be able to get a good looking book (I still struggle +with dblatex, xmlto and docbook-xsl) as well as to do the draft +translation and proof reading. And I would like the figures to be +redrawn as SVGs to make it easy to translate them. Any SVG master +around? I am sure there are some legal terms that are unfamiliar to +me. If you want to help, please get in touch, and check out the +project files currently available from <a +href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">github</a>. + +If you are curious what the translated book currently look like, +the updated +<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/blob/master/archive/freeculture.nb.pdf?raw=true">PDF</a> +and +<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/blob/master/archive/freeculture.nb.epub?raw=true">EPUB</a> +are published on github. The HTML version is published as well, but +github hand it out with MIME type text/plain, confusing browsers, so I +saw no point in linking to that version. + + + Notes on language codes for Norwegian docbook processing... http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Notes_on_language_codes_for_Norwegian_docbook_processing___.html diff --git a/blog/tags/english/index.html b/blog/tags/english/index.html index eff79ae5b7..5f8d05c198 100644 --- a/blog/tags/english/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/english/index.html @@ -20,6 +20,75 @@

Entries tagged "english".

+ Half way there with translated docbook version of Free Culture +

+ 17th August 2012 +

+ +

+ + + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture. + + +

Notes on language codes for Norwegian docbook processing... @@ -76,7 +145,7 @@ processors. :(

- Tags: english. + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture.

@@ -156,7 +225,7 @@ experimental versions of some docbook tool chain?

- Tags: english. + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture.

@@ -198,7 +267,7 @@ language.

- Tags: english, nuug, opphavsrett. + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture, nuug, opphavsrett.

@@ -238,7 +307,7 @@ send pull requests with fixes. :)

- Tags: english, nuug, opphavsrett. + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture, nuug, opphavsrett.

@@ -11256,7 +11325,7 @@ be the only one fitting our needs. :/

@@ -11381,14 +11450,18 @@ be the only one fitting our needs. :/

diff --git a/blog/tags/fiksgatami/index.html b/blog/tags/fiksgatami/index.html index 64983107b4..d5ba832670 100644 --- a/blog/tags/fiksgatami/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/fiksgatami/index.html @@ -1094,7 +1094,7 @@ med dem. Dette blir bra.

@@ -1219,14 +1219,18 @@ med dem. Dette blir bra.

diff --git a/blog/tags/fildeling/index.html b/blog/tags/fildeling/index.html index d9630f3bf3..a6d6858dd4 100644 --- a/blog/tags/fildeling/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/fildeling/index.html @@ -647,7 +647,7 @@ og fildeling av slike filer er fullt ut lovlig.

@@ -772,14 +772,18 @@ og fildeling av slike filer er fullt ut lovlig.

diff --git a/blog/tags/freeculture/freeculture.rss b/blog/tags/freeculture/freeculture.rss new file mode 100644 index 0000000000..448683a0cd --- /dev/null +++ b/blog/tags/freeculture/freeculture.rss @@ -0,0 +1,346 @@ + + + + Petter Reinholdtsen - Entries tagged freeculture + Entries tagged freeculture + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/ + + + + Half way there with translated docbook version of Free Culture + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Half_way_there_with_translated_docbook_version_of_Free_Culture.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Half_way_there_with_translated_docbook_version_of_Free_Culture.html + Fri, 17 Aug 2012 21:50:00 +0200 + In my spare time, I currently work on a Norwegian +<a href="http://www.docbook.org/">docbook</a> version of the 2004 book +<a href="http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture</a> by Lawrence Lessig, +to get a Norwegian text explaining the problems with the copyright law +I can give to my parents and others that are reluctant to read an +English book. It is a marvellous set of examples on how the ever +expanding copyright regulations hurt culture and society. When the +translation is done, I hope to find funding to print and ship a copy +to all the members of the Norwegian parliament, before they sit down +to debate the latest revisions to the Norwegian copyright law. This +summer I +<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html">called +for volunteers</a> to help me, and I have been able to secure the +valuable contribution from at least one other Norwegian. + +Two days ago, we finally broke the 50% mark. Then more than 50% of +the number of strings to translate (normally paragraphs, but also +titles and index entries are also counted). All parts from the +beginning up to and including chapter four is translated. So is +chapters six, seven and the conclusion. I created a graph to show the +progress: + +<img width="80%" align="center" src="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/raw/master/progress.png"> + +The number of strings to translate increase as I insert the index +entries into the docbook. They were missing with the docbook version +I initially started with. There are still quite a few index entries +missing, but everyone starting with A, B, O, Z and Y are done. I +currently focus on completing the index entries, to get a complete +english version of the docbook source. + +There is still need for translators and people with docbook +knowledge, to be able to get a good looking book (I still struggle +with dblatex, xmlto and docbook-xsl) as well as to do the draft +translation and proof reading. And I would like the figures to be +redrawn as SVGs to make it easy to translate them. Any SVG master +around? I am sure there are some legal terms that are unfamiliar to +me. If you want to help, please get in touch, and check out the +project files currently available from <a +href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">github</a>. + +If you are curious what the translated book currently look like, +the updated +<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/blob/master/archive/freeculture.nb.pdf?raw=true">PDF</a> +and +<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig/blob/master/archive/freeculture.nb.epub?raw=true">EPUB</a> +are published on github. The HTML version is published as well, but +github hand it out with MIME type text/plain, confusing browsers, so I +saw no point in linking to that version. + + + + + Notes on language codes for Norwegian docbook processing... + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Notes_on_language_codes_for_Norwegian_docbook_processing___.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Notes_on_language_codes_for_Norwegian_docbook_processing___.html + Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:00:00 +0200 + In <a href="http://www.docbook.org/">docbook</a> one can specify +the language used at the top, and the processing pipeline will use +this information to pick the correct translations for 'chapter', 'see +also', 'index' etc. And for most languages used with docbook, I guess +this work just fine. For example a German user can start the document +with <book lang="de">, and the document will show up with the +correct content with any of the docbook processors. This is not the +case for the language +<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Free_Culture_in_Norwegian___5_chapters_done__74_percent_left_to_do.html">I +am working with at the moment</a>, Norwegian BokmÃ¥l. + +For a while, I was confused about which language code to use, +because I was unable to find any language code that would work across +all tools. I am currently testing dblatex, xmlto, docbook-xsl, and +dbtoepub, and they do not handle Norwegian BokmÃ¥l the same way. Some +of them do not handle it at all. + +A bit of background information is probably needed to understand +this mess. Norwegian is not one, but two written variants. The +variants are Norwegian Nynorsk and Norwegian BokmÃ¥l. There are three +two letter language codes associated with these languages, Norwegian +is 'no', Norwegian Nynorsk is 'nn' and Norwegian BokmÃ¥l is 'nb'. +Historically the 'no' language code was used for Norwegian BokmÃ¥l, but +many years ago this was found to be Ã¥ bad idea, and the recommendation +is to use the most specific language code instead, to avoid confusion. +In the transition period it is a good idea to make sure 'no' was an +alias for 'nb'. + +Back to docbook processing tools in Debian. The dblatex tool only +understand 'nn'. There are translations for 'no', but not 'nb' (BTS +<a href="http://bugs.debian.org/684391">#684391</a>), but due to a bug +(BTS <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/682936">#682936</a>) the 'no' +language code is not recognised. The docbook-xsl tool chain only +recognise 'nn' and 'nb', but not 'no'. The xmlto tool only recognise +'nn' and 'nb', but not 'no'. The end result that there is no language +code I can use to get the docbook file working with all of these tools +at the same time. :( + +The correct solution is to use <book lang="nb">, but it will +take time before that will work with all the free software docbook +processors. :( + +Oh, the joy of well integrated tools. :/ + + + + + Best way to create a docbook book? + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Best_way_to_create_a_docbook_book_.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Best_way_to_create_a_docbook_book_.html + Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:00:00 +0200 + I tried to send this text to the +<a href="https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/">docbook-apps +mailing list at lists.oasis-open.org</a>, but it only accept messages +from subscribers and rejected my post, and I completely lack the +bandwidth required to subscribe to another mailing list, so instead I +try to post my message here and hope my blog readers can help me +out. + +I am quite new to docbook processing, and am climbing a steep +learning curve at the moment. + +To give you some background, I am working on a Norwegian +translation of the book Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig, and I use +docbook to handle the process. The files to build the book are +available from +<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">github</a>. +The book got around 400 pages with parts, images, footnotes, tables, +index entries etc, which has proven to be a challenge for the free +software docbook processors. My build platform is Debian GNU/Linux +Squeeze. + +I want to build PDF, EPUB and HTML version of the book, and have +tried different tool chains to do the conversion from docbook to these +formats. I am currently focusing on the PDF version, and have a few +problems. + +<ul> + +<li>Using dblatex, the <part> handling is not the way I want to, + as </part> do not really end the <part>. (See + <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/683166">BTS report #683166</a>), the + xetex backend (needed to process UTF-8) give incorrect hyphens in + index references spanning several pages (See + <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/682901">BTS report #682901</a>), and + I am unable to get the norwegian template texts (See + <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/682936">BTS report #682936</a>).</li> + +<li>Using straight xmlto fail with some latex error (See + <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/683163">BTS report + #683163</a>).</li> + +<li>Using xmlto with the fop backend fail to handle images (do not + show up in the PDF), fail to handle a long footnote (overlap + footnote and text body, see + <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/683197">BTS report #683197</a>), and + fail to create a correct index (some lack page ref, and the page + refs listed are not right).</li> + +<li>Using xmlto with the dblatex backend behave like dblatex.</li> + +<li>Using docbook-xls with xsltproc + fop have the same footnote and + index problems the xmlto + fop processing.</li> + +</ul> + +So I wonder, what would be the best way to create the PDF version +of this book? Are some of the bugs found above solved in new or +experimental versions of some docbook tool chain? + +What about HTML and EPUB versions? + + + + + Free Culture in Norwegian - 5 chapters done, 74 percent left to do + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Free_Culture_in_Norwegian___5_chapters_done__74_percent_left_to_do.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Free_Culture_in_Norwegian___5_chapters_done__74_percent_left_to_do.html + Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:00:00 +0200 + I reported earlier that I am working on +<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html">a +norwegian version</a> of the book +<a href="http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture</a> by Lawrence Lessig. +Progress is good, and yesterday I got a major contribution from Anders +Hagen Jarmund completing chapter six. The source files as well as a +PDF and EPUB version of this book are available from +<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">github</a>. + +I am happy to report that the draft for the first two chapters +(preface, introduction) is complete, and three other chapters are also +completely translated. This completes 26 percent of the number of +strings (equivalent to paragraphs) in the book, and there is thus 74 +percent left to translate. A graph of the progress is present at the +bottom of the github project page. There is still room for more +contributors. Get in touch or send github pull requests with fixes if +you got time and are willing to help make this book make it to +print. :) + +The book translation framework could also be a good basis for other +translations, if you want the book to be available in your +language. + + + + + Call for help from docbook expert to tag Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Call_for_help_from_docbook_expert_to_tag_Free_Culture_by_Lawrence_Lessig.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Call_for_help_from_docbook_expert_to_tag_Free_Culture_by_Lawrence_Lessig.html + Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:50:00 +0200 + I am currently working on a +<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html">project +to translate</a> the book +<a href="http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture</a> by Lawrence Lessig +to Norwegian. And the source we base our translation on is the +<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DocBook">docbook</a> version, to +allow us to use po4a and .po files to handle the translation, and for +this to work well the docbook source document need to be properly +tagged. The source files of this project is available from +<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">github</a>. + +The problem is that the docbook source have flaws, and we have +no-one involved in the project that is a docbook expert. Is there a +docbook expert somewhere that is interested in helping us create a +well tagged docbook version of the book, and adjust our build process +for the PDF, EPUB and HTML version of the book? This will provide a +well tagged English version (our source document), and make it a lot +easier for us to create a good Norwegian version. If you can and want +to help, please get in touch with me or fork the github project and +send pull requests with fixes. :) + + + + + Fri programvare - "fri" som i "talefrihet", ikke som i "fri bar" + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Fri_programvare____fri__som_i__talefrihet___ikke_som_i__fri_bar_.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Fri_programvare____fri__som_i__talefrihet___ikke_som_i__fri_bar_.html + Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:20:00 +0200 + Et ofte brukt sitat i fri programvareverden er Stallman-sitatet +Â«<a href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html.en">Free Software, +"free" as in "free speech", not as in "free beer"</a>Â». Men det er +ikke direkte overfÃ¸rbart til norsk, da det baserer seg pÃ¥ koblingen +gratis/fri pÃ¥ engelsk. En direkte oversettelse ville vÃ¦re Â«Fri +programvare, "fri" som i "talefrihet", ikke som "gratis Ã¸l"Â», og det +gÃ¥r jo glipp av poenget. I forbindelse med at vi er +<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html">igang +med Ã¥ oversette</a> <a href="http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture</a> +av Lawrence Lessig, mÃ¥tte jeg forsÃ¸ke a finne en bedre +oversettelse. + +Mitt forslag til oversettelse blir dermed Ã¥ droppe Ã¸let, og heller +fokusere pÃ¥ det kjente norske uttrykket "fri bar". Dermed blir +oversettelsen Â«Fri programvare - "fri" som i "talefrihet", ikke som i +"fri bar"Â». + +Noen som har bedre forslag? + +ForÃ¸vrig bruker jeg fri programvare som et samlebegrep pÃ¥ norsk for +begge de engelske uttrykkene Free Software og Open Source, jamfÃ¸r +<a href="http://www.nuug.no/dokumenter/folder-friprogramvare.pdf">NUUGs +lille folder om temaet</a>. + + + + + Dugnad for Ã¥ sende norsk versjon av Free Culture til stortingets representanter! + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Dugnad_for___sende_norsk_versjon_av_Free_Culture_til_stortingets_representanter_.html + Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:00:00 +0200 + Da opphavsrettsloven ble revidert i forrige runde rundt 2005, var +det skummelt Ã¥ se hvor lite stortingsrepresentantene forsto hvordan +Internet pÃ¥virket folks forhold til kulturuttrykk, og min venn Vidar +og jeg spekulert pÃ¥ at det hadde kanskje vÃ¦rt fornuftig om samtlige +representanter fikk en norsk utgave av boken +<a href="http://free-culture.cc/">Free Culture</a> av Lawrence Lessig +som forklarte litt om problemstillingene. Vi endte opp med Ã¥ +prioritere utvikling i +<a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux</a>-prosjektet i +stedet, sÃ¥ den oversatte boken sÃ¥ aldri dagens lys. Men i forrige uke +ble jeg inspirert til Ã¥ ta opp trÃ¥den og se om det er mulig Ã¥ fÃ¥ til +bokprosjektet denne gang, da det er tydelig at kulturdepartementet i +sitt nye forsÃ¸k pÃ¥ Ã¥ gjÃ¸re opphavsrettsloven enda mer ubalansert til +fordel for forlag og store mediehus fortsatt trenger en annen vinkling +i debatten. + +Planen min er Ã¥ oversette boka pÃ¥ dugnad, sette den opp for +trykking med en av de mange +<a href="http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trykk_pÃ¥_forespÃ¸rsel">trykk pÃ¥ +forespÃ¸rsel</a>-tjenestene, skaffe sponsor til Ã¥ finansiere trykking +til stortingsrepresentantene og alle som har bidratt med +oversettelser. Kanskje vi ogsÃ¥ kan fÃ¥ en avtale med et forlag om +publisering nÃ¥r boka er ferdig? Kommentarene til +<a href="http://newth.net/eirik/2011/04/01/e-selvpublisering/">Eirik +Newth</a> og +<a href="http://www.espen.com/norskblogg/archives/2008/09/erfaringer_med_publishing_on_demand.html">Espen +Andersen</a> om erfaringene med selvpublisering og trykk pÃ¥ +forespÃ¸rsel er interessante og ikke avskrekkende, og jeg mistenker at +<a href="http://www.lulu.com/">Lulu</a> er en grei leverandÃ¸r av +trykketjenester til prosjektet. + +Jeg har satt opp +<a href="https://github.com/petterreinholdtsen/free-culture-lessig">et +Github-prosjekt</a> for a lage boken, basert pÃ¥ Docbook-utgaven jeg +fant fra Hans Schou. Skolelinux har hatt byggesystem for Ã¥ lage +oversatt HTML og PDF-utgave av Docbook-bÃ¸ker i en Ã¥rrekke, sÃ¥ jeg har +kopiert og utvidet dette oppsettet. Originalteksten er i Docbook, og +oversettelsen gjÃ¸res i .po-filer med hjelp av vanlige +oversetterverktÃ¸y brukt i fri programvareverden. Dernest tar +byggesystemet over og lager PDF og EPUB-utgave av den oversatte +teksten. Resultatet kan ses i Github-prosjektet. For Ã¥ komme raskt +igang har jeg brukt maskinoversettelse av alle tekstbitene fra engelsk +til norsk, noe som grovoversatte ca. 1300 av de ca. 1700 tekstbitene +boken bestÃ¥r av. Jeg hÃ¥per nÃ¥ at flere kan bidra med Ã¥ fÃ¥ +oversettelsen pÃ¥ plass, slik at teksten kan vÃ¦re klar i lÃ¸pet av +hÃ¸sten. NÃ¥r alt er oversatt mÃ¥ teksten gjennomgÃ¥s for feil og +konsistent sprÃ¥k. Totalt er det nok mange timer som trengs for Ã¥ +gjennomfÃ¸re oversettelsen. + +Ãkonomien i dette er ikke avskrekkende. 169 +stortingsrepresentanter og nesten like mange varamedlemmer bÃ¸r fÃ¥ +bÃ¸ker, og estimert produduksjonskostnad for hver bok er rundt 6 EURO i +fÃ¸lge et raskt estimat fra Lulu. Jeg vet ennÃ¥ ikke hvor mange sider +det blir i stÃ¸rrelsen 5,5" x 8.5" (det er ca. 140 sider i A4-format), +sÃ¥ jeg gjettet pÃ¥ 400 sider. Jeg tror originalutgaven har nesten 400 +sider. For 169*2 eksemplarer snakker vi om en trykkekostnad pÃ¥ +ca. 2000 EURO, dvs. ca 15 000 NOK. Det burde vÃ¦re mulig Ã¥ finne en +sponsor for Ã¥ dekke en slik sum. I tillegg kommer distribusjon og +porto, som antagelig kommer pÃ¥ like mye. + +Kan du bidra med oversettelse og docbook-typesetting? Ta kontakt +og send patcher i github. Jeg legger gjerne inn folk i prosjektet +slik at du kan oppdatere direkte. + + + + + diff --git a/blog/tags/freeculture/index.html b/blog/tags/freeculture/index.html new file mode 100644 index 0000000000..8696d16572 --- /dev/null +++ b/blog/tags/freeculture/index.html @@ -0,0 +1,676 @@ + + + + + Petter Reinholdtsen: Entries Tagged freeculture + + + + + +

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+ Half way there with translated docbook version of Free Culture +

+ 17th August 2012 +

+ +

+ + + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture. + + +

+ +

+ Notes on language codes for Norwegian docbook processing... +

+ 10th August 2012 +

+ +

The correct solution is to use <book lang="nb">, but it will +take time before that will work with all the free software docbook +processors. :(

+ +

Oh, the joy of well integrated tools. :/

+ +

+ + + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture. + + +

+ +

+ Best way to create a docbook book? +

+ 31st July 2012 +

+ +

I am quite new to docbook processing, and am climbing a steep +learning curve at the moment.

+ +

Using dblatex, the <part> handling is not the way I want to, + as </part> do not really end the <part>. (See + BTS report #683166), the + xetex backend (needed to process UTF-8) give incorrect hyphens in + index references spanning several pages (See + BTS report #682901), and + I am unable to get the norwegian template texts (See + BTS report #682936).
Using straight xmlto fail with some latex error (See + BTS report + #683163).
Using xmlto with the fop backend fail to handle images (do not + show up in the PDF), fail to handle a long footnote (overlap + footnote and text body, see + BTS report #683197), and + fail to create a correct index (some lack page ref, and the page + refs listed are not right).
Using xmlto with the dblatex backend behave like dblatex.
Using docbook-xls with xsltproc + fop have the same footnote and + index problems the xmlto + fop processing.

+ +

So I wonder, what would be the best way to create the PDF version +of this book? Are some of the bugs found above solved in new or +experimental versions of some docbook tool chain?

+ +

What about HTML and EPUB versions?

+ +

+ + + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture. + + +

+ +

+ Free Culture in Norwegian - 5 chapters done, 74 percent left to do +

+ 21st July 2012 +

+ +

The book translation framework could also be a good basis for other +translations, if you want the book to be available in your +language.

+ +

+ + + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture, nuug, opphavsrett. + + +

+ +

+ Call for help from docbook expert to tag Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig +

+ 16th July 2012 +

+ +

+ + + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture, nuug, opphavsrett. + + +

+ +

+ Fri programvare - "fri" som i "talefrihet", ikke som i "fri bar" +

+ 15th July 2012 +

Et ofte brukt sitat i fri programvareverden er Stallman-sitatet +Â«Free Software, +"free" as in "free speech", not as in "free beer"Â». Men det er +ikke direkte overfÃ¸rbart til norsk, da det baserer seg pÃ¥ koblingen +gratis/fri pÃ¥ engelsk. En direkte oversettelse ville vÃ¦re Â«Fri +programvare, "fri" som i "talefrihet", ikke som "gratis Ã¸l"Â», og det +gÃ¥r jo glipp av poenget. I forbindelse med at vi er +igang +med Ã¥ oversette Free Culture +av Lawrence Lessig, mÃ¥tte jeg forsÃ¸ke a finne en bedre +oversettelse.

+ +

Mitt forslag til oversettelse blir dermed Ã¥ droppe Ã¸let, og heller +fokusere pÃ¥ det kjente norske uttrykket "fri bar". Dermed blir +oversettelsen Â«Fri programvare - "fri" som i "talefrihet", ikke som i +"fri bar"Â».

+ +

Noen som har bedre forslag?

+ +

ForÃ¸vrig bruker jeg fri programvare som et samlebegrep pÃ¥ norsk for +begge de engelske uttrykkene Free Software og Open Source, jamfÃ¸r +NUUGs +lille folder om temaet.

+ +

+ + + Tags: freeculture, norsk, nuug. + + +

+ +

+ Dugnad for Ã¥ sende norsk versjon av Free Culture til stortingets representanter! +

+ 11th July 2012 +

+ +

Kan du bidra med oversettelse og docbook-typesetting? Ta kontakt +og send patcher i github. Jeg legger gjerne inn folk i prosjektet +slik at du kan oppdatere direkte.

+ +

+ + + Tags: docbook, freeculture, norsk, nuug, opphavsrett. + + +

+ +

+ Created by Chronicle v4.4 +

+ + + diff --git a/blog/tags/frikanalen/index.html b/blog/tags/frikanalen/index.html index 60e8bc0b86..68e1fe71ec 100644 --- a/blog/tags/frikanalen/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/frikanalen/index.html @@ -548,7 +548,7 @@ NUUG lykkes med Ã¥ fÃ¥ ut sine opptak med like stor suksess.

@@ -673,14 +673,18 @@ NUUG lykkes med Ã¥ fÃ¥ ut sine opptak med like stor suksess.

diff --git a/blog/tags/intervju/index.html b/blog/tags/intervju/index.html index 8b7a787ae4..e5f5d06f14 100644 --- a/blog/tags/intervju/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/intervju/index.html @@ -3444,7 +3444,7 @@ veldig bra utvalg av gratis spill som er av hÃ¸y kvalitet. Veldig lett

@@ -3569,14 +3569,18 @@ veldig bra utvalg av gratis spill som er av hÃ¸y kvalitet. Veldig lett

diff --git a/blog/tags/kart/index.html b/blog/tags/kart/index.html index 03c0ee7df5..570a94b772 100644 --- a/blog/tags/kart/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/kart/index.html @@ -1076,7 +1076,7 @@ det viser at behovet for fribruks-sjÃ¸kart er til stedet.

@@ -1201,14 +1201,18 @@ det viser at behovet for fribruks-sjÃ¸kart er til stedet.

diff --git a/blog/tags/ldap/index.html b/blog/tags/ldap/index.html index fc55e01807..ead63dab52 100644 --- a/blog/tags/ldap/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/ldap/index.html @@ -963,7 +963,7 @@ new IETF work group?

@@ -1088,14 +1088,18 @@ new IETF work group?

diff --git a/blog/tags/lenker/index.html b/blog/tags/lenker/index.html index df8dacacb1..8cb4b8e296 100644 --- a/blog/tags/lenker/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/lenker/index.html @@ -198,7 +198,7 @@ Word 2007 hÃ¥ndterer ODF dÃ¥rlig

@@ -323,14 +323,18 @@ Word 2007 hÃ¥ndterer ODF dÃ¥rlig

diff --git a/blog/tags/ltsp/index.html b/blog/tags/ltsp/index.html index c3d73e58e0..50c3826bd5 100644 --- a/blog/tags/ltsp/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/ltsp/index.html @@ -79,7 +79,7 @@ of these cards.

@@ -204,14 +204,18 @@ of these cards.

diff --git a/blog/tags/multimedia/index.html b/blog/tags/multimedia/index.html index 1ee3aad530..76a44030e4 100644 --- a/blog/tags/multimedia/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/multimedia/index.html @@ -1776,7 +1776,7 @@ be the only one fitting our needs. :/

@@ -1901,14 +1901,18 @@ be the only one fitting our needs. :/

diff --git a/blog/tags/norsk/index.html b/blog/tags/norsk/index.html index 5deb7076e0..a92c3280b9 100644 --- a/blog/tags/norsk/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/norsk/index.html @@ -266,7 +266,7 @@ lille folder om temaet.

- Tags: norsk, nuug. + Tags: freeculture, norsk, nuug.

@@ -349,7 +349,7 @@ slik at du kan oppdatere direkte.

- Tags: norsk, nuug, opphavsrett. + Tags: docbook, freeculture, norsk, nuug, opphavsrett.

@@ -13041,7 +13041,7 @@ forsÃ¸k.

@@ -13166,14 +13166,18 @@ forsÃ¸k.

diff --git a/blog/tags/nuug/index.html b/blog/tags/nuug/index.html index 923fe03086..de6f46ab7a 100644 --- a/blog/tags/nuug/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/nuug/index.html @@ -110,7 +110,7 @@ language.

- Tags: english, nuug, opphavsrett. + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture, nuug, opphavsrett.

@@ -150,7 +150,7 @@ send pull requests with fixes. :)

- Tags: english, nuug, opphavsrett. + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture, nuug, opphavsrett.

@@ -193,7 +193,7 @@ lille folder om temaet.

- Tags: norsk, nuug. + Tags: freeculture, norsk, nuug.

@@ -276,7 +276,7 @@ slik at du kan oppdatere direkte.

- Tags: norsk, nuug, opphavsrett. + Tags: docbook, freeculture, norsk, nuug, opphavsrett.

@@ -8882,7 +8882,7 @@ hÃ¥per det ikke gÃ¥r tapt pÃ¥ samme vis.

@@ -9007,14 +9007,18 @@ hÃ¥per det ikke gÃ¥r tapt pÃ¥ samme vis.

diff --git a/blog/tags/offentlig innsyn/index.html b/blog/tags/offentlig innsyn/index.html index 2a4145c525..c813e5b08c 100644 --- a/blog/tags/offentlig innsyn/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/offentlig innsyn/index.html @@ -495,7 +495,7 @@ til Ã¥ levere hver uke. Har ikke undersÃ¸kt noen av de andre.

@@ -620,14 +620,18 @@ til Ã¥ levere hver uke. Har ikke undersÃ¸kt noen av de andre.

diff --git a/blog/tags/open311/index.html b/blog/tags/open311/index.html index a3a5d3cfe1..81ef2b3cc4 100644 --- a/blog/tags/open311/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/open311/index.html @@ -174,7 +174,7 @@ work like the free software project communities I am used to.

@@ -299,14 +299,18 @@ work like the free software project communities I am used to.

diff --git a/blog/tags/opphavsrett/index.html b/blog/tags/opphavsrett/index.html index 8f0e7eb52a..5e08327bcc 100644 --- a/blog/tags/opphavsrett/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/opphavsrett/index.html @@ -55,7 +55,7 @@ language.

- Tags: english, nuug, opphavsrett. + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture, nuug, opphavsrett.

@@ -95,7 +95,7 @@ send pull requests with fixes. :)

- Tags: english, nuug, opphavsrett. + Tags: docbook, english, freeculture, nuug, opphavsrett.

@@ -178,7 +178,7 @@ slik at du kan oppdatere direkte.

- Tags: norsk, nuug, opphavsrett. + Tags: docbook, freeculture, norsk, nuug, opphavsrett.

@@ -2503,7 +2503,7 @@ og endrer pÃ¥ betingelsene.

@@ -2628,14 +2628,18 @@ og endrer pÃ¥ betingelsene.

diff --git a/blog/tags/personvern/index.html b/blog/tags/personvern/index.html index f1d4718115..f5a68a2016 100644 --- a/blog/tags/personvern/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/personvern/index.html @@ -2889,7 +2889,7 @@ kontanter for noen dager siden.

@@ -3014,14 +3014,18 @@ kontanter for noen dager siden.

diff --git a/blog/tags/raid/index.html b/blog/tags/raid/index.html index 279d462db9..6b20df4801 100644 --- a/blog/tags/raid/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/raid/index.html @@ -115,7 +115,7 @@ disk(s) is failing when the RAID is running short on disks.

@@ -240,14 +240,18 @@ disk(s) is failing when the RAID is running short on disks.

diff --git a/blog/tags/reprap/index.html b/blog/tags/reprap/index.html index 749d0f3ecb..db14478472 100644 --- a/blog/tags/reprap/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/reprap/index.html @@ -541,7 +541,7 @@ hÃ¥per det ikke gÃ¥r tapt pÃ¥ samme vis.

@@ -666,14 +666,18 @@ hÃ¥per det ikke gÃ¥r tapt pÃ¥ samme vis.

diff --git a/blog/tags/rfid/index.html b/blog/tags/rfid/index.html index 66a3550cb5..44bbf3db59 100644 --- a/blog/tags/rfid/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/rfid/index.html @@ -164,7 +164,7 @@ mer om de nye biometriske passene.

@@ -289,14 +289,18 @@ mer om de nye biometriske passene.

diff --git a/blog/tags/robot/index.html b/blog/tags/robot/index.html index e285fd2137..0703aaab3f 100644 --- a/blog/tags/robot/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/robot/index.html @@ -262,7 +262,7 @@ firmwaren. :)

@@ -387,14 +387,18 @@ firmwaren. :)

diff --git a/blog/tags/rss/index.html b/blog/tags/rss/index.html index 8ab996dfee..568709b5a8 100644 --- a/blog/tags/rss/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/rss/index.html @@ -68,7 +68,7 @@ forsÃ¸k.

@@ -193,14 +193,18 @@ forsÃ¸k.

diff --git a/blog/tags/ruter/index.html b/blog/tags/ruter/index.html index dd345ae7d8..d0f10708be 100644 --- a/blog/tags/ruter/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/ruter/index.html @@ -222,7 +222,7 @@ OsloomrÃ¥det.

@@ -347,14 +347,18 @@ OsloomrÃ¥det.

diff --git a/blog/tags/scraperwiki/index.html b/blog/tags/scraperwiki/index.html index 60bdf6ad3c..78e78a1cdf 100644 --- a/blog/tags/scraperwiki/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/scraperwiki/index.html @@ -157,7 +157,7 @@ av Ã¥ dele informasjon med andre uten bruksbegresninger.

@@ -282,14 +282,18 @@ av Ã¥ dele informasjon med andre uten bruksbegresninger.

diff --git a/blog/tags/sikkerhet/index.html b/blog/tags/sikkerhet/index.html index bce36a579f..7b02730c66 100644 --- a/blog/tags/sikkerhet/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/sikkerhet/index.html @@ -1497,7 +1497,7 @@ betydelige.

@@ -1622,14 +1622,18 @@ betydelige.

diff --git a/blog/tags/sitesummary/index.html b/blog/tags/sitesummary/index.html index 49f7bcf466..ed63a39ade 100644 --- a/blog/tags/sitesummary/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/sitesummary/index.html @@ -273,7 +273,7 @@ everything is taken care of.

@@ -398,14 +398,18 @@ everything is taken care of.

diff --git a/blog/tags/skepsis/index.html b/blog/tags/skepsis/index.html index 7af84efabb..bda6a32966 100644 --- a/blog/tags/skepsis/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/skepsis/index.html @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ Streisand-effekten

@@ -214,14 +214,18 @@ Streisand-effekten

diff --git a/blog/tags/standard/index.html b/blog/tags/standard/index.html index 7e428181cb..7477726a9c 100644 --- a/blog/tags/standard/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/standard/index.html @@ -3082,7 +3082,7 @@ Kjenner kun til ufullstendige lÃ¸sninger for slikt.

@@ -3207,14 +3207,18 @@ Kjenner kun til ufullstendige lÃ¸sninger for slikt.

diff --git a/blog/tags/stavekontroll/index.html b/blog/tags/stavekontroll/index.html index 9c3c303136..510093b2ad 100644 --- a/blog/tags/stavekontroll/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/stavekontroll/index.html @@ -88,7 +88,7 @@ stavekontrollen.

@@ -213,14 +213,18 @@ stavekontrollen.

diff --git a/blog/tags/stortinget/index.html b/blog/tags/stortinget/index.html index 59b324bda9..20ebf582ca 100644 --- a/blog/tags/stortinget/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/stortinget/index.html @@ -305,7 +305,7 @@ at vi i NUUG har fÃ¥tt operativ en norsk utgave av

@@ -430,14 +430,18 @@ at vi i NUUG har fÃ¥tt operativ en norsk utgave av

diff --git a/blog/tags/surveillance/index.html b/blog/tags/surveillance/index.html index d9281a04c5..75f163985b 100644 --- a/blog/tags/surveillance/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/surveillance/index.html @@ -564,7 +564,7 @@ automatisk over i spesialkartet.

@@ -689,14 +689,18 @@ automatisk over i spesialkartet.

diff --git a/blog/tags/valg/index.html b/blog/tags/valg/index.html index b0690d1dea..c468a4ff38 100644 --- a/blog/tags/valg/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/valg/index.html @@ -359,7 +359,7 @@ inneholdt i Iran hvis de ikke hadde hemmelige valg?

@@ -484,14 +484,18 @@ inneholdt i Iran hvis de ikke hadde hemmelige valg?

diff --git a/blog/tags/video/index.html b/blog/tags/video/index.html index a6c8f99a1a..85806bc469 100644 --- a/blog/tags/video/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/video/index.html @@ -2599,7 +2599,7 @@ larger stick as well.

@@ -2724,14 +2724,18 @@ larger stick as well.

diff --git a/blog/tags/vitenskap/index.html b/blog/tags/vitenskap/index.html index 35103398fb..b027db14d9 100644 --- a/blog/tags/vitenskap/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/vitenskap/index.html @@ -133,7 +133,7 @@ skyskrapere. Takke meg til en tur til mÃ¥nen.

@@ -258,14 +258,18 @@ skyskrapere. Takke meg til en tur til mÃ¥nen.

diff --git a/blog/tags/web/index.html b/blog/tags/web/index.html index 7758051459..77027203f1 100644 --- a/blog/tags/web/index.html +++ b/blog/tags/web/index.html @@ -1907,7 +1907,7 @@ be the only one fitting our needs. :/