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+		<title>Mer oppfølging fra MPEG-LA om avtale med dem for å kringkaste og publisere H.264-video</title>
+		<link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Mer_oppf_lging_fra_MPEG_LA_om_avtale_med_dem_for___kringkaste_og_publisere_H_264_video.html</link>
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+                <pubDate>Thu, 5 Jul 2012 23:50:00 +0200</pubDate>
+		<description>&lt;p&gt;I føljetongen om H.264
+&lt;a href=&quot;http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/MPEG_LA_mener_NRK_m__ha_avtale_med_dem_for___kringkaste_og_publisere_H_264_video.html&quot;&gt;forlot
+jeg leserne i undring&lt;/a&gt; om hvor pakken fra MPEG-LA tok veien, og om
+hvilke selskaper i Norge som har avtale med MPEG-LA.  Da Ryan hos
+MPEG-LA dro på ferie sendte jeg min melding videre til hans kollega,
+og dagen etter fikk jeg følgende svar derfra:&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:32:34 +0000
+&lt;br&gt;From: Sidney Wolf &amp;lt;SWolf (at) mpegla.com&amp;gt;
+&lt;br&gt;To: Petter Reinholdtsen &amp;lt;pere (at) hungry.com&amp;gt;
+&lt;br&gt;Cc: Ryan Rodriguez &amp;lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&amp;gt;
+&lt;br&gt;Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;Thank you for your message. As you know, Ryan is currently our of the
+office, so it will be my pleasure to assist you.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;Per your request, attached please find an electronic copy of the
+AVC Patent Portfolio License. Please note that the electronic copy of
+the License is provided as a convenience and for informational
+purposes only. When concluding the Licenses, only the hard copies
+provided by MPEG LA may be used.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;To your question, MPEG LA lists our Licensees on our website
+according to each program.  The lists are in alphabetical order, so it
+is very easy to search.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;I hope that this was helpful. If we can be of additional
+assistance, please let me know.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;Kind regards,&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;Sidney A. Wolf
+&lt;br&gt;Manager, Global Licensing
+&lt;br&gt;MPEG LA&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;Selv om et epostvedlegg er nyttig for mottakeren, så håpet jeg å få
+et dokument jeg kunne dele med alle leserne av bloggen min, og ikke et
+som må deles på individuell basis.  Opphavsretten krever godkjenning
+fra rettighetsinnehaver før en kan gjøre slikt, så dermed fulgte jeg
+opp med et spørsmål om dette var greit.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 20:25:06 +0200
+&lt;br&gt;From: Petter Reinholdtsen &amp;lt;pere (at) hungry.com&amp;gt;
+&lt;br&gt;To: Sidney Wolf &amp;lt;SWolf (at) mpegla.com&amp;gt;
+&lt;br&gt;Cc: Ryan Rodriguez &amp;lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&amp;gt;
+&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;Thank you for your reply.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;[Sidney Wolf]
+&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Per your request, attached please find an electronic copy of the AVC
+&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Patent Portfolio License. Please note that the electronic copy of
+&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the License is provided as a convenience and for informational
+&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; purposes only. When concluding the Licenses, only the hard copies
+&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; provided by MPEG LA may be used.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;This is useful for me to learn, but the reason I asked for the
+Internet address of the licensing document was to ensure I could
+publish a link to it when I discuss the topic of H.264 licensing here
+in Norway, and allow others to verify my observations.  I can not do
+the same with an email attachment.  Thus I would like to ask you if it
+is OK with MPEG LA that I publish this document on the Internet for
+others to read?&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; To your question, MPEG LA lists our Licensees on our website
+&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; according to each program. The lists are in alphabetical order, so
+&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; it is very easy to search.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;I am afraid this do not help me locate Norwegian companies in the
+list of Licensees.  I do not know the name of all companies and
+organisations in Norway, and thus do not know how to locate the
+Norwegian ones on that list.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; I hope that this was helpful. If we can be of additional assistance,
+&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; please let me know.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;Absoutely helpful to learn more about how MPEG LA handle licensing.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;--
+&lt;br&gt;Happy hacking
+&lt;br&gt;Petter Reinholdtsen&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;Jeg håpet også at det skulle være mulig å få vite hvilke av de
+mange hundre som har avtale med MPEG-LA om bruk av H.264 som holdt til
+i Norge.  Begge mine håp falt i grus med svaret fra MPEG-LA.
+
+&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:42:39 +0000
+&lt;br&gt;From: Sidney Wolf &amp;lt;SWolf (at) mpegla.com&amp;gt;
+&lt;br&gt;To: &#39;Petter Reinholdtsen&#39; &amp;lt;pere (at) hungry.com&amp;gt;
+&lt;br&gt;Cc: Ryan Rodriguez &amp;lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&amp;gt;
+&lt;br&gt;Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;Thank you for your reply.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;We appreciate the additional explanation you have provided and for
+asking our permission to publish the electronic copy of the License in
+advance of doing so.  Typically, MPEG LA prefers to distribute the
+electronic copies of our Licenses to interested parties. Therefore,
+please feel free to send interested parties to the AVC portion of our
+website, http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Intro.aspx for
+their further reference.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;As previously mentioned, MPEG LA maintains a list of Licensees in good
+standing on our website according to each program. Due to the large
+volume of Licensees, it would be administratively impractical to
+provide this level of detail to interested parties.  Therefore, I am
+afraid we are not in a position to assist you with your request.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;Kind regards,&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;Sidney A. Wolf
+&lt;br&gt;Manager, Global Licensing
+&lt;br&gt;MPEG LA&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;Men takket være epostvedlegget kunne jeg søke på Google etter
+setningen &quot;WHEREAS, a video standard commonly referred to as AVC has
+been defined and is referred to in this Agreement as the “AVC
+Standard” (as more fully defined herein below)&quot; som finnes i avtalen,
+og lokalisere en kopi fra 2007 av
+&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1342960/000119312509050004/dex1024.htm&quot;&gt;lisensavtalen
+mellom MPEG-LA og DivX, Inc.&lt;/a&gt;, slik at mine lesere kan se hvordan
+avtalen så ut da.  Jeg har ikke sammenlignet tekstene for å se om noe
+har endret seg siden den tid.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;Jeg aner fortsatt ikke hvor FedEx tok veien med pakken fra
+MPEG-LA.&lt;/p&gt;
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-	<item>
-		<title>MPEG-LA mener NRK må ha avtale med dem for å kringkaste og publisere H.264-video</title>
-		<link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/MPEG_LA_mener_NRK_m__ha_avtale_med_dem_for___kringkaste_og_publisere_H_264_video.html</link>
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-                <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:00:00 +0200</pubDate>
-		<description>&lt;p&gt;Etter at NRK
-&lt;a href=&quot;http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/NRK_nekter___finne_og_utlevere_eventuell_avtale_med_MPEG_LA.html&quot;&gt;nektet
-Ã¥ spore opp eventuell avtale med MPEG-LA&lt;/a&gt; eller andre om bruk av
-MPEG/H.264-video etter at jeg &lt;a
-href=&quot;http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Trenger_en_avtale_med_MPEG_LA_for___publisere_og_kringkaste_H_264_video_.html&quot;&gt;ba
-om innsyn i slike avtaler&lt;/a&gt;, tenkte jeg at i stedet for å forsøke å
-få NRK til å finne en slik avtale, så burde det være like enkelt å
-spørre MPEG-LA om de hadde avtale med NRK.  Spørsmålet ble sendt før
-jeg fikk tips fra Kieran Kunhya om hvor listen over lisensinnehavere
-&quot;in Good Standing&quot; befant seg.  MPEG-LA svarte meg i dag, og kan
-fortelle at NRK ikke har noen avtale med dem, så da er i det minste det
-slått fast.  Ikke overraskende mener MPEG-LA at det trengs en avtale
-med MPEG-LA for å streame H.264, men deres rammer er jo
-rettstilstanden i USA og ikke Norge.  Jeg tar dermed den delen av
-svaret med en klype salt.  Jeg er dermed fortsatt ikke klok på om det
-trengs en avtale, og hvis det trengs en avtale her i Norge, heller
-ikke sikker på om NRK har en avtale med noen andre enn MPEG-LA som
-gjør at de ikke trenger avtale direkte med MPEG-LA.  Jeg håper NRKs
-jurister har vurdert dette, og at det er mulig å få tilgang til
-vurderingen uansett om de trenger en avtale eller ikke.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Her er epostutvekslingen med MPEG-LA så langt.  Håper ikke
-utvekslingen fører til NRK plutselig får en litt uventet pakke fra
-MPEG-LA.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
-&lt;p&gt;Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:29:37 +0200
-&lt;br&gt;From: Petter Reinholdtsen &amp;lt;pere (at) hungry.com&amp;gt;
-&lt;br&gt;To: licensing-web (at) mpegla.com
-&lt;br&gt;Subject: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Hi.  I have a small question for you, that I hope it is OK that I
-ask.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Is there any license agreements between MPEG-LA and NRK, &amp;lt;URL:
-&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nrk.no/&quot;&gt;http://www.nrk.no/&lt;/a&gt; &amp;gt;, the
-Norwegian national broadcasting cooperation?  I am not sure if they
-need one, and am just curious if such agreeement exist.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;The postal address is&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
-  NRK
-  &lt;br&gt;Postbox 8500, Majorstuen
-  &lt;br&gt;0340 Oslo
-  &lt;br&gt;Norway
-&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;if it make it easier for you to locate such agreement.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Can you tell me how many entities in Norway have an agreement with
-MPEG-LA, and the name of these entities?&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;--
-&lt;br&gt;Happy hacking
-&lt;br&gt;Petter Reinholdtsen
-&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;I dag, to dager senere, fikk jeg følgende svar:&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
-&lt;p&gt;Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:11:17 +0000
-&lt;br&gt;From: Ryan Rodriguez &amp;lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&gt;
-&lt;br&gt;To: Petter Reinholdtsen &amp;lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
-&lt;br&gt;CC: MD Administration &amp;lt;MDAdministration (at) mpegla.com&gt;
-&lt;br&gt;Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Thank you for your message and for your interest in MPEG LA. We
-appreciate hearing from you and I will be happy to assist you.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;To begin, I will assume that you are referring to AVC/H.264
-technology in your message below, as this technology is commonly used
-in the transmission of video content.  In that case, please allow me
-to briefly summarize the coverage provided by our AVC Patent Portfolio
-License.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;P&gt;Our AVC License provides coverage for end products and video
-services that make use of AVC/H.264 technology.  Accordingly, the
-party offering such end products and video to End Users concludes the
-AVC License and is responsible for paying the applicable royalties
-associated with the end products/video they offer.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;While the Norwegian Broadcast Corporation (NRK) is not currently a
-Licensee to MPEG LA&#39;s AVC License (or any other Portfolio License
-offered by MPEG LA), if NRK offers AVC Video to End Users for
-remuneration (for example, Title-by-Title, Subscription, Free
-Television, or Internet Broadcast AVC Video), then NRK will need to
-conclude the AVC License and may be responsible for paying applicable
-royalties associated with the AVC Video it distributes.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Today I will send you a FedEx package containing a copy of our AVC
-License for your review.  You should receive the License document
-within the next few days.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile, MPEG LA currently has several Norwegian Licensees that
-can be found under the &quot;Licensees&quot; header within the respective
-portion of our website.  For example, you may find our list of
-Licensees in Good Standing to our AVC License in the AVC portion of
-our website,
-&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensees.aspx&quot;&gt;http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensees.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;I hope the above information is helpful.  If you have additional
-questions or need further assistance with the AVC License, please feel
-free to contact me directly.  I look forward to hearing from you again
-soon.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Best regards,&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Ryan&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Ryan M. Rodriguez
-&lt;br&gt;Licensing Associate
-&lt;br&gt;MPEG LA
-&lt;br&gt;5425 Wisconsin Avenue
-&lt;br&gt;Suite 801
-&lt;br&gt;Chevy Chase, MD 20815
-&lt;br&gt;U.S.A.
-&lt;br&gt;Phone:  +1 (301) 986-6660 x211
-&lt;br&gt;Fax:    +1 (301) 986-8575
-&lt;br&gt;Email: rrodriguez (at) mpegla.com&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Meldingen om utsendt FedEx-pakke var så merkelig at jeg
-øyeblikkelig sendte svar tilbake og spurte hva i alle dager han mente,
-da han jo ikke hadde fått noen postadresse som nådde meg.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:36:15 +0200
-&lt;br&gt;From: Petter Reinholdtsen &amp;lt;pere (at) hungry.com&amp;gt;
-&lt;br&gt;To: Ryan Rodriguez &amp;lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&amp;gt;
-&lt;br&gt;Cc: MD Administration &amp;lt;MDAdministration (at) mpegla.com&amp;gt;
-&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;[Ryan Rodriguez]
-&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Thank you for your quick reply.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Today I will send you a FedEx package containing a copy of our AVC
-&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; License for your review.  You should receive the License document
-&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; within the next few days.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;The part about sending a FedEx package confused me, though.  I did not
-&lt;br&gt;give you my address, nor am I associated with NRK in any way, so I hope
-&lt;br&gt;you did not try to send me a package using the address of NRK.  If you
-&lt;br&gt;would send me the Internet address of to the document, it would be more
-&lt;br&gt;useful to me to be able to download it as an electronic document.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Meanwhile, MPEG LA currently has several Norwegian Licensees that can
-&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; be found under the &quot;Licensees&quot; header within the respective portion
-&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; of our website.  For example, you may find our list of Licensees in
-&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Good Standing to our AVC License in the AVC portion of our website,
-&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensees.aspx&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;How can I recognize the Norwegian licensees?&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;--
-&lt;br&gt;Happy hacking
-&lt;br&gt;Petter Reinholdtsen&lt;/p&gt;
-&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Selv om jeg svarte kun noen minutter etter at jeg fikk eposten fra
-MPEG-LA, fikk jeg eposten under som automatisk var beskjed på min
-siste epost.  Får håpe noen likevel følger opp &quot;FedEx-pakken&quot;.  For å
-øke sjansen for at noen revurderer utsending av pakke uten mottaker,
-videresendte jeg min epost til swolf (at) mpegla.com, så får vi se.
-Har ikke hørt noe mer 3 timer senere, så jeg mistenker at ingen leste
-min epost tidsnok.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:36:20 +0000
-&lt;br&gt;From: Ryan Rodriguez &amp;lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&amp;gt;
-&lt;br&gt;To: Petter Reinholdtsen &amp;lt;pere (at) hungry.com&amp;gt;
-&lt;br&gt;Subject: Automatic reply: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Thank you for your message.&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;I will be out of the office until Thursday, July 5 and will respond
-to all messages upon my return.  If this is a matter that requires
-immediate attention, please contact Sidney Wolf (swolf (at)
-mpegla.com)&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Best regards,&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Ryan&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Ryan M. Rodriguez
-&lt;br&gt;Licensing Associate
-&lt;br&gt;MPEG LA&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
-
-&lt;p&gt;Litt klokere, men fortsatt ikke klok på mitt opprinnelige spørsmål,
-som er om en trenger avtale med MPEG-LA for å publisere eller
-kringkaste H.264-video i Norge.&lt;/p&gt;
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