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         <li><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/glibc/">GNU libc jumpstation</a></li>
 
+        <li><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/bugzilla/">GNU libc bugzilla</a></li>
+
+       <li><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?product=glibc&component=localedata&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=SUSPENDED&bug_status=WAITING&bug_status=REOPENED">GNU libc locale bugs</a></li>
+
         <li><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/libc/?cvsroot=glibc">GNU libc CVSweb</a></li>
 
         <li><a href="http://www.openi18n.org/specs/ldml/">OpenI18n The
            Locale Data Markup Language Specification</a></li>
+
+       <li><a href="http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr24/">Unicode
+           Standard Annex #24 Script Names</a></li>
+
       </ul>
+      <hr>
+
+      <p><a href="MAINTAINERS.txt">Current locales and their
+         maintainers</a></p>
+
+      <p><a href="howto.html">Locale writing howto</a></p>
+
     </div>
 
     <div class="hovuddel">
       all the fixes included in the official releases of the
       source.</p>
 
+      <h2>Mailing list for discussing locales</h2>
+
+      <p>A mailing list for discussing the GNU libc locales have been
+       created.  It is
+       <a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-locales/">archived on
+         the web</a>.  Send an email to
+       <tt>libc-locales-subscribe&#064;sources.redhat.com</tt> to subscribe.</p>
+
     <h2>References to documentation and standards</h2>
 
     <p>It is currently an open question where the format og locales in
 
     </ul>
 
-    <p>To make it easier to compare locales with each other, I
-      recommend using the same order in all locales.  Any order will
-      do, so I picked a order used in several locales, and decided to
-      recommend this order:</p>
-
-    <ol>
-      <li>LC_IDENTIFICATION
-      <li>LC_CTYPE
-      <li>LC_COLLATE
-      <li>LC_MONETARY
-      <li>LC_NUMERIC
-      <li>LC_TIME
-      <li>LC_MESSAGES
-      <li>LC_PAPER
-      <li>LC_NAME
-      <li>LC_ADDRESS
-      <li>LC_TELEPHONE
-      <li>LC_MEASUREMENT
-    </ol>
+      <h2>Changing a locale</h2>
+
+      <p>Getting locale fixes past the glibc maintainers is still a
+       kind of black art to me.  This is my first try to document
+       what I believe is needed to get the glibc maintainers to
+       accept a change.</p>
+
+      <p>Register the change request in bugzilla, to make sure the
+       request is not forgotten, and that all relevant info is
+       collected in one place.</p>
+
+      <p>It is always good to involve the original locale author when
+       submitting a change request.  Getting the original author to
+       agree to the change increases the chance that the glibc
+       maintainers will accept it.  It is also an idea to involve the
+       contributors to the locale.  This is why I maintain a list of
+       authors and contributors for each locale.  The people listed
+       there should be emailed as well, and asked for comments.  If
+       the contributors agree as well, the change is less likely to
+       be controversial, and more likely to be accepted by the glibc
+       maintainers.</p>
+
+      <p>Give references to official standards and specifications
+       documenting the correct locale behavoiur.  URLs are fine.  If
+       such references are impossible to find, official-looking pages
+       might have the same effect.  Another idea is to show
+       locale-specific use of dates and other formatting on
+       country-official web pages and other publications.</p>
+
+      <p>If all of these are present, the change is likely to be
+       accepted by the glibc maintainer.  If some of them are missing
+       (like the author is unavailable, no standard and
+       specifications exist, and it is hard to document the correct
+       format, I do not know how to get the change past the glibc
+       maintainers.</p>
 
     <h2>Locale related problem reports</h2>
 
     <h3>From <a href="http://bugs.gnu.org/">GNU libc gnats database</a></h3>
 
+      <p>The GNATS database is dead at the moment (2003-10-31), and
+       has been dead since this summer.</p>
+
     <ul>
 
       <li>libc/2254: Insufficient info from the locale tool.
          locales.alias even lines are not considered (debian
          only?)</a>
 
-      <li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/206474">#206474: locales:
-         nb_NO should be a real locale, not an alias</a>
+      <li><strike><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/206474">#206474: locales:
+         nb_NO should be a real locale, not an alias</a></strike>
        <br>Same as libc/2931
 
+      <li><strike><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/208238">#208238: locales:
+          wrong charset for et_EE</a></strike>
+
+      <li><strike><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/211607">#211607: Bad catalan
+          locale currency format</a></strike>
+
+      <li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/214107">#214107: locales:
+          en_US.UTF-8 treats [ as a space char</a>
+
+      <li><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/214414">#214414: Incorrect
+          date format in en_NZ</a>
+
+      <li><strike><a href="http://bugs.debian.org/215466">#215466: fi_FI
+          locale doesn't contain first_weekday</a></strike>
+
     </ul>
 
     <h3>From <a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/">RedHat Bugzilla</a></h3>
       <li><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-05/msg00267.html">2003-05-29
          Indent the error output from sort-test.sh</a>
 
-      <li><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-06/msg00133.html">2003-06-15
-         Add nb_NO locale (PR libc/2931)</a>
-
-      <li><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-06/msg00257.html">2003-06-21
-         Add test for international currency formatting.</a>
+      <li><strike><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-06/msg00133.html">2003-06-15
+         Add nb_NO locale (PR libc/2931)</a></strike>
 
       <li><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-07/msg00021.html">2003-07-06
            Correct wrong date format for locale sl_SI (PR libc/5059)</a>
 
-      <li><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-07/msg00022.html">2003-07-06
-         Some small locale fixes</a>
+      <li><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-08/msg00082.html">2003-08-13
+           Updated/new locales for sr_CS (Serbia and Montenegro)</a></li>
 
-      <li><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-09/msg00091.html">2003-09-11
-         Locales for Uzbekistan (uz_UZ and uz_UZ@Cyrl)</a>
+      <li><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-06/msg00257.html">2003-06-21
+         Add test for international currency formatting.</a> and
+         <a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-11/msg00135.html">2003-11-23
+           Add test for international currency formatting (updated)</a></li>
 
-      <li><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-09/msg00122.html">2003-09-14
-         Correct formatting of internatinal currency</a>
+      <li><strike><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2004-01/msg00016.html">2004-01-01
+           Change et_EE charset to ISO-8859-15</a> (rejected)</strike></li>
 
     </ul>
 
 
       <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-05/msg00310.html">2003-05-31
            Correct email of Denis V. Dmitrienko in uk_UA
-           (commited)</a></strong>
+           (commited)</a></strong></li>
 
       <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-05/msg00311.html">2003-05-31
-           Correct thousand separator for fi_FI (commited)</a></strong>
+           Correct thousand separator for fi_FI (commited)</a></strong></li>
 
       <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-06/msg00129.html">2003-06-15
-           Correct fi_FI date gramar (PR libc/5013) (commited)</a></strong>
+           Correct fi_FI date gramar (PR libc/5013) (commited)</a></strong></li>
 
       <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-06/msg00141.html">2003-06-15
-           Clean up locale test code (commited)</a></strong>
+           Clean up locale test code (commited)</a></strong></li>
 
       <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-06/msg00155.html">2003-06-15
            Use lower case letters in month and week day names in is_IS
-           (commited)</a></strong>
+           (commited)</a></strong></li>
 
       <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-06/msg00255.html">2003-06-21
            Add missing ETH to LC_COLLATE in no_NO
-           (commited)</a></strong>
+           (commited)</a></strong></li>
 
       <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-06/msg00317.html">2003-06-25
            Correct an_ES charset and add an_ES.ISO-8859-15 to
-           SUPPORTED (commited)</a></strong>
+           SUPPORTED (commited)</a></strong></li>
+
+      <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-07/msg00017.html">2003-07-05
+           Updating/adding locale for Ethiopia and Eritrea</a></strong></li>
 
       <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-07/msg00020.html">2003-07-13
            Make sort-test handle more then 100 lines, and avoid
-           segfault (commited)</a></strong>
+           segfault (commited)</a></strong></li>
 
       <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-09/msg00003.html">2003-09-01
-         Document why there are two locales for Hebrew</a></strong>
+         Document why there are two locales for Hebrew</a></strong></li>
+
+      <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-09/msg00091.html">2003-09-11
+         Locales for Uzbekistan (uz_UZ and uz_UZ@Cyrl)</a></strong></li>
+
+      <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-11/msg00126.html">2003-11-23
+         Only check the currency name against 4217, exclude the space</a></strong></li>
+
+      <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-11/msg00128.html">2003-11-23
+         Monday is first work and week day in Finland</a></strong></li>
+
+      <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-11/msg00129.html">2003-11-23
+           Remove unused file localedata/locales/translit_et</a></strong></li>
+
+      <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2004-01/msg00004.html">2004-01-01
+           Make strfmon() more POSIX-compliant</a></strong></li>
+
+      <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2004-01/msg00007.html">2004-01-01
+           Report which of the sorting methods that fail</a></strong></li>
+
+      <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-11/msg00127.html">2003-11-23
+         Correct formatting of internatinal currency</a></strong></li>
+
+      <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-11/msg00133.html">2003-11-23
+           Allow quotes in tst-fmon.data, and make output easier to read</a></strong></li>
+
+      <li><strong><a href="http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-07/msg00022.html">2003-07-06
+         Some small locale fixes</a></strong></li>
 
     </ul>
 
+      <h2>Missing locales?</h2>
+
+      <p>Bruno Haible told me about a
+       <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/language_codes.asp">list
+         of language codes</a> available from Microsoft, and
+         discovered that some of these are missing as locales in
+         current GNU libc.</p>
+
+      <table>
+         <tr>
+           <th>Locale code</th>
+           <th>Language</th>
+           <th>Region/Country</th>
+         </tr>
+
+         <tr>
+           <td>bnt_TZ
+           <td>Sutu
+           <td>Tanzania
+           <td>(MS calls this one "sx" - not ISO 639)
+             <br>(see also <a href="http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=NGU">http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=NGU</a>)
+             <br>Correct code st_LS / nso_ZA ?
+         </tr>
+
+         <tr>
+           <td>de_LI
+           <td>German
+           <td>Liechtenstein
+         </tr>
+
+         <tr>
+           <td>en_JM
+           <td>English
+           <td>Jamaica
+         </tr>
+
+         <tr>
+           <td>en_GD
+           <td>English
+           <td>Caribbean
+         </tr>
+
+         <tr>
+           <td>en_BZ
+           <td>English
+           <td>Belize
+         </tr>
+
+         <tr>
+           <td>en_TT
+           <td>English
+           <td>Trinidad
+         </tr>
+
+         <tr>
+           <td>gd_IE
+           <td>Gaelic
+           <td>Ireland
+         </tr>
+
+         <tr>
+           <td>rm_CH
+           <td>Rhaeto-Romanic
+           <td>Switzerland
+         </tr>
+
+         <tr>
+           <td>ro_MD
+           <td>Romanian
+           <td>Moldavia
+           <td>(MS calls this one "MO" - not ISO 3166)
+         </tr>
+
+         <tr>
+           <td>ru_MD
+           <td>Russian
+           <td>Moldavia
+           <td>(MS calls this one "MO" - not ISO 3166)
+         </tr>
+
+         <tr>
+           <td>ts_ZA
+           <td>Tsonga
+           <td>South Africa
+           <td>(see also <a href="http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=TSO">http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=TSO</a>)
+         </tr>
+
+         <tr>
+           <td>tn_BW
+           <td>Tswana
+           <td>Botswana
+           <td>(see also <a href="http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=TSW">http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=TSW</a>)
+         </tr>
+
+         <tr>
+           <td>ven_ZA
+           <td>Venda
+           <td>South Africa
+           <td>(not sure about ISO 639 code: "ve" or "ven")
+             <br>(see also <a href="http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=VEN">http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=VEN</a>)
+         </tr>
+
+         <tr>
+           <td>wen_DE
+           <td>Sorbian
+           <td>Germany
+             <td>(MS calls this one "sb" - not ISO 639)
+             <br>(see also <a href="http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=WEN">http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=WEN</a>)
+         </tr>
+
+      </table>
+
+      <h2>Related web pages</h2>
+
+      <ul>
+
+       <li>AIX locale documentation, 
+         <a href="http://nscp.upenn.edu/aix4.3html/files/aixfiles/Locale_Definition.htm">definition</a>, 
+         <a href="http://nscp.upenn.edu/aix4.3html/files/aixfiles/LC_COLLATE.htm">LC_COLLATE</a>,
+         <a href="http://nscp.upenn.edu/aix4.3html/files/aixfiles/LC_CTYPE.htm">LC_CTYPE</a>,
+         <a href="http://nscp.upenn.edu/aix4.3html/files/aixfiles/LC_MESSAGES.htm">LC_MESSAGES</a>,
+         <a href="http://nscp.upenn.edu/aix4.3html/files/aixfiles/LC_MONETARY.htm">LC_MONETARY</a>,
+         <a href="http://nscp.upenn.edu/aix4.3html/files/aixfiles/LC_NUMERIC.htm">LC_NUMERIC</a> and
+         <a href="http://nscp.upenn.edu/aix4.3html/files/aixfiles/LC_TIME.htm">LC_TIME</a>.</li>
+
+      </ul>
+
     </div>
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-    <address><a href="mailto:pere@hungry.com">Petter Reinholdtsen</a></address>
+    <address><a href="mailto:pere&#064;hungry.com">Petter Reinholdtsen</a></address>
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