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+ <title>Mer oppfølging fra MPEG-LA om avtale med dem for å kringkaste og publisere H.264-video</title>
+ <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Mer_oppf_lging_fra_MPEG_LA_om_avtale_med_dem_for___kringkaste_og_publisere_H_264_video.html</link>
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+ <pubDate>Thu, 5 Jul 2012 23:50:00 +0200</pubDate>
+ <description><p>I føljetongen om H.264
+<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/MPEG_LA_mener_NRK_m__ha_avtale_med_dem_for___kringkaste_og_publisere_H_264_video.html">forlot
+jeg leserne i undring</a> om hvor pakken fra MPEG-LA tok veien, og om
+hvilke selskaper i Norge som har avtale med MPEG-LA. Da Ryan hos
+MPEG-LA dro på ferie sendte jeg min melding videre til hans kollega,
+og dagen etter fikk jeg følgende svar derfra:</p>
+
+<p><blockquote>
+<p>Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:32:34 +0000
+<br>From: Sidney Wolf &lt;SWolf (at) mpegla.com&gt;
+<br>To: Petter Reinholdtsen &lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
+<br>Cc: Ryan Rodriguez &lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&gt;
+<br>Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
+
+<p>Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,</p>
+
+<p>Thank you for your message. As you know, Ryan is currently our of the
+office, so it will be my pleasure to assist you.</p>
+
+<p>Per your request, attached please find an electronic copy of the
+AVC Patent Portfolio License. Please note that the electronic copy of
+the License is provided as a convenience and for informational
+purposes only. When concluding the Licenses, only the hard copies
+provided by MPEG LA may be used.</p>
+
+<p>To your question, MPEG LA lists our Licensees on our website
+according to each program. The lists are in alphabetical order, so it
+is very easy to search.</p>
+
+<p>I hope that this was helpful. If we can be of additional
+assistance, please let me know.</p>
+
+<p>Kind regards,</p>
+
+<p>Sidney A. Wolf
+<br>Manager, Global Licensing
+<br>MPEG LA</p>
+</blockquote></p>
+
+<p>Selv om et epostvedlegg er nyttig for mottakeren, så håpet jeg å få
+et dokument jeg kunne dele med alle leserne av bloggen min, og ikke et
+som må deles på individuell basis. Opphavsretten krever godkjenning
+fra rettighetsinnehaver før en kan gjøre slikt, så dermed fulgte jeg
+opp med et spørsmål om dette var greit.</p>
+
+<p><blockquote>
+<p>Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 20:25:06 +0200
+<br>From: Petter Reinholdtsen &lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
+<br>To: Sidney Wolf &lt;SWolf (at) mpegla.com&gt;
+<br>Cc: Ryan Rodriguez &lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&gt;
+<br>Subject: Re: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
+
+<p>Thank you for your reply.</p>
+
+<p>[Sidney Wolf]
+<br>&gt; Per your request, attached please find an electronic copy of the AVC
+<br>&gt; Patent Portfolio License. Please note that the electronic copy of
+<br>&gt; the License is provided as a convenience and for informational
+<br>&gt; purposes only. When concluding the Licenses, only the hard copies
+<br>&gt; provided by MPEG LA may be used.</p>
+
+<p>This is useful for me to learn, but the reason I asked for the
+Internet address of the licensing document was to ensure I could
+publish a link to it when I discuss the topic of H.264 licensing here
+in Norway, and allow others to verify my observations. I can not do
+the same with an email attachment. Thus I would like to ask you if it
+is OK with MPEG LA that I publish this document on the Internet for
+others to read?</p>
+
+<p>&gt; To your question, MPEG LA lists our Licensees on our website
+<br>&gt; according to each program. The lists are in alphabetical order, so
+<br>&gt; it is very easy to search.</p>
+
+<p>I am afraid this do not help me locate Norwegian companies in the
+list of Licensees. I do not know the name of all companies and
+organisations in Norway, and thus do not know how to locate the
+Norwegian ones on that list.</p>
+
+<p>&gt; I hope that this was helpful. If we can be of additional assistance,
+<br>&gt; please let me know.</p>
+
+<p>Absoutely helpful to learn more about how MPEG LA handle licensing.</p>
+
+<p>--
+<br>Happy hacking
+<br>Petter Reinholdtsen</p>
+</blockquote></p>
+
+<p>Jeg håpet også at det skulle være mulig å få vite hvilke av de
+mange hundre som har avtale med MPEG-LA om bruk av H.264 som holdt til
+i Norge. Begge mine håp falt i grus med svaret fra MPEG-LA.
+
+<p><blockquote>
+<p>Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:42:39 +0000
+<br>From: Sidney Wolf &lt;SWolf (at) mpegla.com&gt;
+<br>To: 'Petter Reinholdtsen' &lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
+<br>Cc: Ryan Rodriguez &lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&gt;
+<br>Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
+
+<p>Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,</p>
+
+<p>Thank you for your reply.</p>
+
+<p>We appreciate the additional explanation you have provided and for
+asking our permission to publish the electronic copy of the License in
+advance of doing so. Typically, MPEG LA prefers to distribute the
+electronic copies of our Licenses to interested parties. Therefore,
+please feel free to send interested parties to the AVC portion of our
+website, http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Intro.aspx for
+their further reference.</p>
+
+<p>As previously mentioned, MPEG LA maintains a list of Licensees in good
+standing on our website according to each program. Due to the large
+volume of Licensees, it would be administratively impractical to
+provide this level of detail to interested parties. Therefore, I am
+afraid we are not in a position to assist you with your request.</p>
+
+<p>Kind regards,</p>
+
+<p>Sidney A. Wolf
+<br>Manager, Global Licensing
+<br>MPEG LA</p>
+</blockquote></p>
+
+<p>Men takket være epostvedlegget kunne jeg søke på Google etter
+setningen "WHEREAS, a video standard commonly referred to as AVC has
+been defined and is referred to in this Agreement as the “AVC
+Standard” (as more fully defined herein below)" som finnes i avtalen,
+og lokalisere en kopi fra 2007 av
+<a href="http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1342960/000119312509050004/dex1024.htm">lisensavtalen
+mellom MPEG-LA og DivX, Inc.</a>, slik at mine lesere kan se hvordan
+avtalen så ut da. Jeg har ikke sammenlignet tekstene for å se om noe
+har endret seg siden den tid.</p>
+
+<p>Jeg aner fortsatt ikke hvor FedEx tok veien med pakken fra
+MPEG-LA.</p>
+</description>
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- <item>
- <title>MPEG-LA mener NRK må ha avtale med dem for å kringkaste og publisere H.264-video</title>
- <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/MPEG_LA_mener_NRK_m__ha_avtale_med_dem_for___kringkaste_og_publisere_H_264_video.html</link>
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- <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:00:00 +0200</pubDate>
- <description><p>Etter at NRK
-<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/NRK_nekter___finne_og_utlevere_eventuell_avtale_med_MPEG_LA.html">nektet
-å spore opp eventuell avtale med MPEG-LA</a> eller andre om bruk av
-MPEG/H.264-video etter at jeg <a
-href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Trenger_en_avtale_med_MPEG_LA_for___publisere_og_kringkaste_H_264_video_.html">ba
-om innsyn i slike avtaler</a>, tenkte jeg at i stedet for å forsøke å
-få NRK til å finne en slik avtale, så burde det være like enkelt å
-spørre MPEG-LA om de hadde avtale med NRK. Spørsmålet ble sendt før
-jeg fikk tips fra Kieran Kunhya om hvor listen over lisensinnehavere
-"in Good Standing" befant seg. MPEG-LA svarte meg i dag, og kan
-fortelle at NRK ikke har noen avtale med dem, så da er i det minste det
-slått fast. Ikke overraskende mener MPEG-LA at det trengs en avtale
-med MPEG-LA for å streame H.264, men deres rammer er jo
-rettstilstanden i USA og ikke Norge. Jeg tar dermed den delen av
-svaret med en klype salt. Jeg er dermed fortsatt ikke klok på om det
-trengs en avtale, og hvis det trengs en avtale her i Norge, heller
-ikke sikker på om NRK har en avtale med noen andre enn MPEG-LA som
-gjør at de ikke trenger avtale direkte med MPEG-LA. Jeg håper NRKs
-jurister har vurdert dette, og at det er mulig å få tilgang til
-vurderingen uansett om de trenger en avtale eller ikke.</p>
-
-<p>Her er epostutvekslingen med MPEG-LA så langt. Håper ikke
-utvekslingen fører til NRK plutselig får en litt uventet pakke fra
-MPEG-LA.</p>
-
-<p><blockquote>
-<p>Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:29:37 +0200
-<br>From: Petter Reinholdtsen &lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
-<br>To: licensing-web (at) mpegla.com
-<br>Subject: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
-
-<p>Hi. I have a small question for you, that I hope it is OK that I
-ask.</p>
-
-<p>Is there any license agreements between MPEG-LA and NRK, &lt;URL:
-<a href="http://www.nrk.no/">http://www.nrk.no/</a> &gt;, the
-Norwegian national broadcasting cooperation? I am not sure if they
-need one, and am just curious if such agreeement exist.</p>
-
-<p>The postal address is</p>
-
-<p><blockquote>
- NRK
- <br>Postbox 8500, Majorstuen
- <br>0340 Oslo
- <br>Norway
-</blockquote></p>
-
-<p>if it make it easier for you to locate such agreement.</p>
-
-<p>Can you tell me how many entities in Norway have an agreement with
-MPEG-LA, and the name of these entities?</p>
-
-<p>--
-<br>Happy hacking
-<br>Petter Reinholdtsen
-</blockquote></p>
-
-<p>I dag, to dager senere, fikk jeg følgende svar:</p>
-
-<p><blockquote>
-<p>Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:11:17 +0000
-<br>From: Ryan Rodriguez &lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com>
-<br>To: Petter Reinholdtsen &lt;pere (at) hungry.com>
-<br>CC: MD Administration &lt;MDAdministration (at) mpegla.com>
-<br>Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
-
-<p>Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,</p>
-
-<p>Thank you for your message and for your interest in MPEG LA. We
-appreciate hearing from you and I will be happy to assist you.</p>
-
-<p>To begin, I will assume that you are referring to AVC/H.264
-technology in your message below, as this technology is commonly used
-in the transmission of video content. In that case, please allow me
-to briefly summarize the coverage provided by our AVC Patent Portfolio
-License.</p>
-
-<P>Our AVC License provides coverage for end products and video
-services that make use of AVC/H.264 technology. Accordingly, the
-party offering such end products and video to End Users concludes the
-AVC License and is responsible for paying the applicable royalties
-associated with the end products/video they offer.</p>
-
-<p>While the Norwegian Broadcast Corporation (NRK) is not currently a
-Licensee to MPEG LA's AVC License (or any other Portfolio License
-offered by MPEG LA), if NRK offers AVC Video to End Users for
-remuneration (for example, Title-by-Title, Subscription, Free
-Television, or Internet Broadcast AVC Video), then NRK will need to
-conclude the AVC License and may be responsible for paying applicable
-royalties associated with the AVC Video it distributes.</p>
-
-<p>Today I will send you a FedEx package containing a copy of our AVC
-License for your review. You should receive the License document
-within the next few days.</p>
-
-<p>Meanwhile, MPEG LA currently has several Norwegian Licensees that
-can be found under the "Licensees" header within the respective
-portion of our website. For example, you may find our list of
-Licensees in Good Standing to our AVC License in the AVC portion of
-our website,
-<a href="http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensees.aspx">http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensees.aspx</a></p>
-
-<p>I hope the above information is helpful. If you have additional
-questions or need further assistance with the AVC License, please feel
-free to contact me directly. I look forward to hearing from you again
-soon.</p>
-
-<p>Best regards,</p>
-
-<p>Ryan</p>
-
-<p>Ryan M. Rodriguez
-<br>Licensing Associate
-<br>MPEG LA
-<br>5425 Wisconsin Avenue
-<br>Suite 801
-<br>Chevy Chase, MD 20815
-<br>U.S.A.
-<br>Phone: +1 (301) 986-6660 x211
-<br>Fax: +1 (301) 986-8575
-<br>Email: rrodriguez (at) mpegla.com</p>
-
-</blockquote></p>
-
-<p>Meldingen om utsendt FedEx-pakke var så merkelig at jeg
-øyeblikkelig sendte svar tilbake og spurte hva i alle dager han mente,
-da han jo ikke hadde fått noen postadresse som nådde meg.</p>
-
-<p><blockquote>
-
-<p>Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:36:15 +0200
-<br>From: Petter Reinholdtsen &lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
-<br>To: Ryan Rodriguez &lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&gt;
-<br>Cc: MD Administration &lt;MDAdministration (at) mpegla.com&gt;
-<br>Subject: Re: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
-
-<p>[Ryan Rodriguez]
-<br>&gt; Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,</p>
-
-<p>Thank you for your quick reply.</p>
-
-<p>&gt; Today I will send you a FedEx package containing a copy of our AVC
-<br>&gt; License for your review. You should receive the License document
-<br>&gt; within the next few days.</p>
-
-<p>The part about sending a FedEx package confused me, though. I did not
-<br>give you my address, nor am I associated with NRK in any way, so I hope
-<br>you did not try to send me a package using the address of NRK. If you
-<br>would send me the Internet address of to the document, it would be more
-<br>useful to me to be able to download it as an electronic document.</p>
-
-<p>&gt; Meanwhile, MPEG LA currently has several Norwegian Licensees that can
-<br>&gt; be found under the "Licensees" header within the respective portion
-<br>&gt; of our website. For example, you may find our list of Licensees in
-<br>&gt; Good Standing to our AVC License in the AVC portion of our website,
-<br>&gt; http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensees.aspx</p>
-
-<p>How can I recognize the Norwegian licensees?</p>
-
-<p>--
-<br>Happy hacking
-<br>Petter Reinholdtsen</p>
-</blockquote></p>
-
-<p>Selv om jeg svarte kun noen minutter etter at jeg fikk eposten fra
-MPEG-LA, fikk jeg eposten under som automatisk var beskjed på min
-siste epost. Får håpe noen likevel følger opp "FedEx-pakken". For å
-øke sjansen for at noen revurderer utsending av pakke uten mottaker,
-videresendte jeg min epost til swolf (at) mpegla.com, så får vi se.
-Har ikke hørt noe mer 3 timer senere, så jeg mistenker at ingen leste
-min epost tidsnok.</p>
-
-<p><blockquote>
-
-<p>Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:36:20 +0000
-<br>From: Ryan Rodriguez &lt;RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com&gt;
-<br>To: Petter Reinholdtsen &lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
-<br>Subject: Automatic reply: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?</p>
-
-<p>Thank you for your message.</p>
-
-<p>I will be out of the office until Thursday, July 5 and will respond
-to all messages upon my return. If this is a matter that requires
-immediate attention, please contact Sidney Wolf (swolf (at)
-mpegla.com)</p>
-
-<p>Best regards,</p>
-
-<p>Ryan</p>
-
-<p>Ryan M. Rodriguez
-<br>Licensing Associate
-<br>MPEG LA</p>
-
-</blockquote></p>
-
-<p>Litt klokere, men fortsatt ikke klok på mitt opprinnelige spørsmål,
-som er om en trenger avtale med MPEG-LA for å publisere eller
-kringkaste H.264-video i Norge.</p>
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