Etter at NRK
nektet
å spore opp eventuell avtale med MPEG-LA eller andre om bruk av
MPEG/H.264-video etter at jeg ba
om innsyn i slike avtaler, tenkte jeg at i stedet for å forsøke å
få NRK til å finne en slik avtale, så burde det være like enkelt å
spørre MPEG-LA om de hadde avtale med NRK. Spørsmålet ble sendt før
jeg fikk tips fra Kieran Kunhya om hvor listen over lisensinnehavere
"in Good Standing" befant seg. MPEG-LA svarte meg i dag, og kan
fortelle at NRK ikke har noen avtale med dem, så da er i det minste det
slått fast. Ikke overraskende mener MPEG-LA at det trengs en avtale
med MPEG-LA for å streame H.264, men deres rammer er jo
rettstilstanden i USA og ikke Norge. Jeg tar dermed den delen av
svaret med en klype salt. Jeg er dermed fortsatt ikke klok på om det
trengs en avtale, og hvis det trengs en avtale her i Norge, heller
ikke sikker på om NRK har en avtale med noen andre enn MPEG-LA som
gjør at de ikke trenger avtale direkte med MPEG-LA. Jeg håper NRKs
jurister har vurdert dette, og at det er mulig å få tilgang til
vurderingen uansett om de trenger en avtale eller ikke.
Her er epostutvekslingen med MPEG-LA så langt. Håper ikke
utvekslingen fører til NRK plutselig får en litt uventet pakke fra
MPEG-LA.
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:29:37 +0200
From: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com>
To: licensing-web (at) mpegla.com
Subject: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?
Hi. I have a small question for you, that I hope it is OK that I
ask.
Is there any license agreements between MPEG-LA and NRK, <URL:
http://www.nrk.no/ >, the
Norwegian national broadcasting cooperation? I am not sure if they
need one, and am just curious if such agreeement exist.
The postal address is
NRK
Postbox 8500, Majorstuen
0340 Oslo
Norway
if it make it easier for you to locate such agreement.
Can you tell me how many entities in Norway have an agreement with
MPEG-LA, and the name of these entities?
--
Happy hacking
Petter Reinholdtsen
I dag, to dager senere, fikk jeg følgende svar:
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:11:17 +0000
From: Ryan Rodriguez <RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com>
To: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com>
CC: MD Administration <MDAdministration (at) mpegla.com>
Subject: RE: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?
Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,
Thank you for your message and for your interest in MPEG LA. We
appreciate hearing from you and I will be happy to assist you.
To begin, I will assume that you are referring to AVC/H.264
technology in your message below, as this technology is commonly used
in the transmission of video content. In that case, please allow me
to briefly summarize the coverage provided by our AVC Patent Portfolio
License.
Our AVC License provides coverage for end products and video
services that make use of AVC/H.264 technology. Accordingly, the
party offering such end products and video to End Users concludes the
AVC License and is responsible for paying the applicable royalties
associated with the end products/video they offer.
While the Norwegian Broadcast Corporation (NRK) is not currently a
Licensee to MPEG LA's AVC License (or any other Portfolio License
offered by MPEG LA), if NRK offers AVC Video to End Users for
remuneration (for example, Title-by-Title, Subscription, Free
Television, or Internet Broadcast AVC Video), then NRK will need to
conclude the AVC License and may be responsible for paying applicable
royalties associated with the AVC Video it distributes.
Today I will send you a FedEx package containing a copy of our AVC
License for your review. You should receive the License document
within the next few days.
Meanwhile, MPEG LA currently has several Norwegian Licensees that
can be found under the "Licensees" header within the respective
portion of our website. For example, you may find our list of
Licensees in Good Standing to our AVC License in the AVC portion of
our website,
http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensees.aspx
I hope the above information is helpful. If you have additional
questions or need further assistance with the AVC License, please feel
free to contact me directly. I look forward to hearing from you again
soon.
Best regards,
Ryan
Ryan M. Rodriguez
Licensing Associate
MPEG LA
5425 Wisconsin Avenue
Suite 801
Chevy Chase, MD 20815
U.S.A.
Phone: +1 (301) 986-6660 x211
Fax: +1 (301) 986-8575
Email: rrodriguez (at) mpegla.com
Meldingen om utsendt FedEx-pakke var så merkelig at jeg
øyeblikkelig sendte svar tilbake og spurte hva i alle dager han mente,
da han jo ikke hadde fått noen postadresse som nådde meg.
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:36:15 +0200
From: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com>
To: Ryan Rodriguez <RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com>
Cc: MD Administration <MDAdministration (at) mpegla.com>
Subject: Re: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?
[Ryan Rodriguez]
> Dear Mr. Reinholdtsen,
Thank you for your quick reply.
> Today I will send you a FedEx package containing a copy of our AVC
> License for your review. You should receive the License document
> within the next few days.
The part about sending a FedEx package confused me, though. I did not
give you my address, nor am I associated with NRK in any way, so I hope
you did not try to send me a package using the address of NRK. If you
would send me the Internet address of to the document, it would be more
useful to me to be able to download it as an electronic document.
> Meanwhile, MPEG LA currently has several Norwegian Licensees that can
> be found under the "Licensees" header within the respective portion
> of our website. For example, you may find our list of Licensees in
> Good Standing to our AVC License in the AVC portion of our website,
> http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensees.aspx
How can I recognize the Norwegian licensees?
--
Happy hacking
Petter Reinholdtsen
Selv om jeg svarte kun noen minutter etter at jeg fikk eposten fra
MPEG-LA, fikk jeg eposten under som automatisk var beskjed på min
siste epost. Får håpe noen likevel følger opp "FedEx-pakken". For å
øke sjansen for at noen revurderer utsending av pakke uten mottaker,
videresendte jeg min epost til swolf (at) mpegla.com, så får vi se.
Har ikke hørt noe mer 3 timer senere, så jeg mistenker at ingen leste
min epost tidsnok.
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:36:20 +0000
From: Ryan Rodriguez <RRodriguez (at) mpegla.com>
To: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere (at) hungry.com>
Subject: Automatic reply: Do NRK have a license agreement with MPEG-LA?
Thank you for your message.
I will be out of the office until Thursday, July 5 and will respond
to all messages upon my return. If this is a matter that requires
immediate attention, please contact Sidney Wolf (swolf (at)
mpegla.com)
Best regards,
Ryan
Ryan M. Rodriguez
Licensing Associate
MPEG LA
Litt klokere, men fortsatt ikke klok på mitt opprinnelige spørsmål,
som er om en trenger avtale med MPEG-LA for å publisere eller
kringkaste H.264-video i Norge.