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4 <title>Petter Reinholdtsen - Entries tagged debian edu
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5 <description>Entries tagged debian edu
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6 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/
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10 <title>Fourth alpha release of Debian Edu/Skolelinux based on Debian Wheezy
</title>
11 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Fourth_alpha_release_of_Debian_Edu_Skolelinux_based_on_Debian_Wheezy.html
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13 <pubDate>Wed,
3 Jul
2013 14:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
14 <description><p
>The fourth wheezy based alpha release of Debian Edu was wrapped up
15 today. This is the release announcement:
</p
>
17 <p
><strong
>New features for Debian Edu
7.1+edu0~alpha3 released
18 2013-
07-
03</strong
></p
>
20 <p
>These are the release notes for for Debian Edu / Skolelinux
21 7.1+edu0~alpha3, based on Debian with codename
"Wheezy
".
</p
>
23 <p
><strong
>About Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</strong
></p
>
25 <p
><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu, also known as
26 Skolelinux
</a
>, is a Linux distribution based on Debian providing an
27 out-of-the box environment of a completely configured school
28 network. Immediately after installation a school server running all
29 services needed for a school network is set up just waiting for users
30 and machines being added via GOsa², a comfortable Web-UI. A netbooting
31 environment is prepared using PXE, so after initial installation of
32 the main server from CD, DVD or USB stick all other machines can be
33 installed via the network. The provided school server provides LDAP
34 database and Kerberos authentication service, centralized home
35 directories, DHCP server, web proxy and many other services. The
37 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Educational_applications_included_in_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux__the_screenshot_collection____.html
">more
38 than
60 educational software packages
</a
> and more are available from
39 the Debian archive, and schools can choose between KDE, Gnome, LXDE
40 and Xfce desktop environment.
</p
>
42 <p
>This is the fourth test release based on Debian Wheezy. Basically
43 this is an updated and slightly improved version compared to the
44 Squeeze release.
</p
>
46 <p
><strong
>Software updates
</strong
></p
>
48 <li
>Dropped ispell dictionaries from our default installation.
</li
>
49 <li
>Dropped menu-xdg from the KDE desktop option, to drop the Debian
50 submenu. It was not included with Gnome, LXDE or Xfce, so this
51 brings KDE in line with the others.
</li
>
52 <li
>Dropped xdrawchem, xjig and xsok from our default installation as
53 they don
't have a desktop menu entry and thus won
't show up in the
54 menu now that menu-xdg was removed.
</li
>
55 <li
>Removed the killer system to kill left behind processes on
56 multi-user machines, as it was no longer able to understand when a
57 X display was in use and killed the processes of the active users
59 <li
>Dropped the golearn (from goplay) package as the debtags in wheezy
60 are too few to make the package useful.
</li
>
62 <p
><strong
>Other changes
</strong
></p
>
64 <li
>Updated artwork matching http://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes/Joy
65 <li
>Multi-arch i386/amd64 USB stick ISO available.
</li
>
66 <li
>Got rid of ispell/wordlist related debconf questions that showed
67 up for some language options.
</li
>
68 <li
>Switched to using http.debian.net as APT source by default.
</li
>
69 <li
>Fixed proxy configuration on Main Server installations.
</li
>
70 <li
>Changed LTSP setup to ask dpkg to use force-unsafe-io the same way
71 d-i is doing it.
</li
>
72 <li
>Made sure root and user passwords were not left behind in the
73 debconf database after installation on Main Server installations.
</li
>
74 <li
>Made Roaming Workstation dynamic setup more robust and added draft
75 script setup-ad-client to hook a Roaming Workstation up to a
76 Active Directory server instead of a Debian Edu Main Server.
</li
>
77 <li
>Update system to install needed firmware packages during
78 installation, to work properly in Wheezy.
</li
>
79 <li
>Update system to handle hardware quirks (debian-edu-hwsetup).
</li
>
80 <li
>Corrected PXE installation setup to properly pass selected desktop
81 and keymap settings to PXE installation clients.
</li
>
82 <li
>LTSP diskless workstations use sshfs by default, allowing them to
83 work without adding them to DNS and NIS netgroups for NFS access.
</li
>
85 <p
><strong
>Known issues
</strong
></p
>
87 <li
>No mass import of user account data in GOsa (ldif or csv)
88 available yet (
698840).
</li
>
89 <li
>Artwork not enabled for all desktops.
</li
>
91 <p
><strong
>Where to get it
</strong
></p
>
93 <p
>To download the multiarch netinstall CD release you can use
</p
>
95 <li
><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-CD.iso
">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-CD.iso
</a
></li
>
96 <li
><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-CD.iso
">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-CD.iso
</a
></li
>
97 <li
>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-CD.iso .
</li
>
100 <p
>The MD5SUM of this image is:
2b161a99d2a848c376d8d04e3854e30c
101 <br
>The SHA1SUM of this image is:
498922e9c508c0a7ee9dbe1dfe5bf830d779c3c8
</p
>
103 <p
>To download the multiarch USB stick ISO release you can use
</p
>
105 <li
><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-USB.iso
">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-USB.iso
</a
></li
>
106 <li
><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-USB.iso
">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-USB.iso
</a
></li
>
107 <li
>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-USB.iso .
</li
>
110 <p
>The MD5SUM of this image is:
25e808e403a4c15dbef1d13c37d572ac
111 <br
>The SHA1SUM of this image is:
15ecfc93eb6b4f453b7eb0bc04b6a279262d9721
</p
>
113 <p
><strong
>How to report bugs
</strong
></p
>
115 <p
><a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
</a
></p
>
120 <title>The value of a good distro wide test suite...
</title>
121 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/The_value_of_a_good_distro_wide_test_suite___.html
</link>
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123 <pubDate>Sat,
22 Jun
2013 07:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
124 <description><p
>In the
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu /
125 Skolelinux
</a
> project, we include a post-installation test suite,
126 which check that services are running, working, and return the
127 expected results. It runs automatically just after the first boot on
128 test installations (using test ISOs), but not on production
129 installations (using non-test ISOs). It test that the LDAP service is
130 operating, Kerberos is responding, DNS is replying, file systems are
131 online resizable, etc, etc. And it check that the PXE service is
132 configured, which is the topic of this post.
</p
>
134 <p
>The last week I
've fixed the DVD and USB stick ISOs for our Debian
135 Edu Wheezy release. These ISOs are supposed to be able to install a
136 complete system without any Internet connection, but for that to
137 happen all the needed packages need to be on them. Thanks to our test
138 suite, I discovered that we had forgotten to adjust our PXE setup to
139 cope with the new names and paths used by the netboot d-i packages.
140 When Internet connectivity was available, the installer fall back to
141 using wget to fetch d-i boot images, but when offline it require
142 working packages to get it working. And ad the packages changed name
143 from debian-installer-
6.0-netboot-$arch to
144 debian-installer-
7.0-netboot-$arch, we no longer pulled in the
145 packages during installation. Without our test suite, I suspect we
146 would never have discovered this before release. Now it is fixed
147 right after we got the ISOs operational.
</p
>
149 <p
>Another by-product of the test suite is that we can ask system
150 administrators with problems getting Debian Edu to work, to run the
151 test suite using
<tt
>/usr/sbin/debian-edu-test-install
</tt
> and see if
152 any errors are detected. This usually pinpoint the subsystem causing
153 the problem.
</p
>
155 <p
>If you want to help us help kids learn how to share and create,
157 <a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%
23debian-edu
">#debian-edu on
158 irc.debian.org
</a
> and the
159 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/
">debian-edu@
</a
> mailing
165 <title>Debian Edu interview: Victor Nițu
</title>
166 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Victor_Ni_u.html
</link>
167 <guid isPermaLink=
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</guid>
168 <pubDate>Mon,
17 Jun
2013 10:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
169 <description><p
>The
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu and
170 Skolelinux
</a
> distribution have users and contributors all around the
171 globe. And a while back, an enterprising young man showed up on
172 <a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%
23debian-edu
">our IRC channel
173 #debian-edu
</a
> and started asking questions about how Debian Edu
174 worked. We answered as good as we could, and even convinced him to
175 help us with translations. And today I managed to get an interview
176 with him, to learn more about him.
</p
>
178 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
180 <p
>I
'm a
25 year old free software enthusiast, living in Romania,
181 which is also my country of origin. Back in
2009, at a New Year
's Eve
182 party, I had a very nice
<strike
>beer
</strike
> discussion with a
183 friend, when we realized we have no organised Debian community in our
184 country. A few days later, we put together the infrastructure for such
185 community and even gathered a nice Debian-ish crowd. Since then, I
186 began my quest as a free software hacker and activist and I am
187 constantly trying to cover as much ground as possible on that
190 <p
>A few years ago I founded a small web development company, which
191 provided me the flexible schedule I needed so much for my
192 activities. For the last
13 months, I have been the Technical Director
193 of
<a href=
"http://ceata.org/
">Fundația Ceata
</a
>, which is a free
194 software activist organisation endorsed by the FSF and the FSFE, and
195 the only one we have in our country.
</p
>
197 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
198 project?
</strong
></p
>
200 <p
>The idea of participating in the Debian Edu project was a surprise
201 even to me, since I never used it before I began getting involved in
202 it. This year I had a great opportunity to deliver a talk on
203 educational software, and I knew immediately where to look. It was a
204 love at first sight, since I was previously involved with some of the
205 technologies the project incorporates, and I rapidly found a lot of
206 ways to contribute.
</p
>
208 <p
>My first contributions consisted in translating the installer and
209 configuration dialogs, then I found some bugs to squash (I still
210 haven
't fixed them yet though), and I even got my eyes on some other
211 areas where I can prove myself helpful. Since the appetite for free
212 software in my country is pretty low, I
'll be happy to be the first
213 one around here advocating for the project
's adoption in educational
214 environments, and maybe even get my hands dirty in creating a flavour
215 for our own needs. I am not used to make very advanced plannings, so
216 from now on, time will tell what I
'll be doing next, but I think I
217 have a pretty consistent starting point.
</p
>
219 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
220 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
222 <p
>Not a long time ago, I was in the position of configuring and
223 maintaining a LDAP server on some Debian derivative, and I must say it
224 took me a while. A long time ago, I was maintaining a bigger
225 Samba-powered infrastructure, and I must say I spent quite a lot of
226 time on it. I have similar stories about many of the services included
227 with Skolelinux, and the main advantage I see about it is the
228 out-of-the box availability of them, making it quite competitive when
229 it comes to managing a school
's network, for example.
</p
>
231 <p
>Of course, there is more to say about Skolelinux than the
232 availability of the software included, its flexibility in various
233 scenarios is something I can
't wait to experiment
"into the wild
" (I
234 only played with virtual machines so far). And I am sure there is a
235 lot more I haven
't discovered yet about it, being so new within the
238 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
239 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
241 <p
>As usual, when it comes to Debian Blends, I see as the biggest
242 disadvantage the lack of a numerous team dedicated to the
243 project. Every day I see the same names in the changelogs, and I have
244 a constantly fear of the bus factor in this story. I
'd like to see
245 Debian Edu advertised more as an entry point into the Debian
246 ecosystem, especially amongst newcomers and students. IMHO there are a
247 lot low-hanging fruits in terms of bug squashing, and enough
248 opportunities to get the feeling of the Debian Project
's dynamics. Not
249 to mention it
's a very fun blend to work on!
</p
>
251 <p
>Derived from the previous statement, is the delay in catching up
252 with the main Debian release and documentation. This is common though
253 to all blends and derivatives, but it
's an issue we can all work
256 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
258 <p
>I can hardly imagine myself spending a day without Vim, since my
259 daily routine covers writing code and hacking configuration files. I
260 am a fan of the Awesome window manager (but I also like the
261 Enlightenment project a lot!),
262 <a href=
"http://www.claws-mail.org/
">Claws Mail
</a
> due to its ease of
263 use and very configurable behaviour. Recently I fell in love with
264 <a href=
"https://launchpad.net/redshift
">Redshift
</a
>, which helps me
265 get through the night without headaches. Of course, there is much more
266 stuff in this bag, but I
'll need a blog on my own for doing this!
</p
>
268 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
269 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
271 <p
>Well, on this field, I cannot do much more than experiment right
272 now. So, being far from having a recipe for success, I can only assume
277 <li
>schools would like to get rid of proprietary software
</li
>
279 <li
>students will love the openness of the system, and will want to
280 experiment with it - maybe we need to harvest the native curiosity
281 of teenagers more?
</li
>
283 <li
>there is no
"right one
" when it comes to strategies, but it would
284 be useful to have some success stories published somewhere, so
285 other can get some inspiration from them (I know I
'd promote
288 <li
>more active promotion - talks, conferences, even small school
289 lectures can do magical things if they encounter at least one
290 person interested. Who knows who that person might be? ;-)
</li
>
294 <p
>I also see some problems in getting Skolelinux into schools; for
295 example, in our country we have a great deal of corruption issues, so
296 it might be hard(er) to fight against proprietary solutions. Also,
297 people who relied on commercial software for all their lives, would be
298 very hard to convert against their will.
</p
>
303 <title>Debian Edu interview: Jonathan Carter
</title>
304 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Jonathan_Carter.html
</link>
305 <guid isPermaLink=
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</guid>
306 <pubDate>Wed,
12 Jun
2013 09:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
307 <description><p
>There is a certain cross-over between the
308 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
309 project
</a
> and
<a href=
"http://www.edubuntu.org/
">the Edubuntu
310 project
</a
>, and for example the LTSP packages in Debian are a joint
311 effort between the projects. One person with a foot in both camps is
312 Jonathan Carter, which I am now happy to present to you.
</p
>
314 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
316 <p
>I
'm a South-African free software geek who lives in Cape Town. My
317 days vary quite a bit since I
'm involved in too many things. As I
'm
318 getting older I
'm learning how to focus a bit more :)
</p
>
320 <p
>I
'm also an Edubuntu contributor and I love when there are
321 opportunities for the Edubuntu and Debian Edu projects to benefit from
322 each other.
</p
>
324 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
325 project?
</strong
></p
>
327 <p
>I
've been somewhat familiar with the project before, but I think my
328 first direct exposure to the project was when I met Petter
329 [Reinholdtsen] and Knut [Yrvin] at the Edubuntu summit in
2005 in
330 London. They provided great feedback that helped the bootstrapping of
331 Edubuntu. Back then Edubuntu (and even Ubuntu) was still very new and
332 it was great getting input from people who have been around longer. I
333 was also still very excitable and said yes to everything and to this
334 day I have a big todo list backlog that I
'm catching up with. I think
335 over the years the relationship between Edubuntu and Debian-Edu has
336 been gradually improving, although I think there
's a lot that we could
337 still improve on in terms of working together on packages. I
'm sure
338 we
'll get there one day.
</p
>
340 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
341 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
343 <p
>Debian itself already has so many advantages. I could go on about
344 it for pages, but in essence I love that it
's a very honest project
345 that puts its users first with no hidden agendas and also produces
346 very high quality work.
</p
>
348 <p
>I think the advantage of Debian Edu is that it makes many common
349 set-up tasks simpler so that administrators can get up and running
350 with a lot less effort and frustration. At the same time I think it
351 helps to standardise installations in schools so that it
's easier for
352 community members and commercial suppliers to support.
</p
>
354 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
355 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
357 <p
>I had to re-type this one a few times because I
'm trying to
358 separate
"disadvantages
" from
"areas that need improvement
" (which is
359 what I originally rambled on about)
</p
>
361 <p
>The biggest disadvantage I can think of is lack of manpower. The
362 project could do so much more if there were more good contributors. I
363 think some of the problems are external too. Free software and free
364 content in education is a no-brainer but it takes some time to catch
365 on. When you
've been working with the same proprietary eco-system for
366 years and have gotten used to it, it can be hard to adjust to some
367 concepts in the free software world. It would be nice if there were
368 more Debian Edu consultants across the world. I
'd love to be one
369 myself but I
'm already so over-committed that it
's just not possible
372 <p
>I think the best short-term solution to that large-scale problem is
373 for schools to be pro-active and share their experiences and grow
374 their skills in-house. I
'm often saddened to see how much money
375 educational institutions spend on
3rd party solutions that they don
't
376 have access to after the service has ended and they could
've gotten so
377 much more value otherwise by being more self-sustainable and
378 autonomous.
</p
>
380 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
382 <p
>My main laptop dual-boots between Debian and Windows
7. I was
383 Windows free for years but started dual-booting again last year for
384 some games which help me focus and relax (Starcraft II in
385 particular). Gaming support on Linux is improving in leaps and bounds
386 so I suppose I
'll soon be able to regain that disk space :)
</p
>
388 <p
>Besides that I rely on Icedove, Chromium, Terminator, Byobu, irssi,
389 git, Tomboy, KVM, VLC and LibreOffice. Recently I
've been torn on
390 which desktop environment I like and I
'm taking some refuge in Xfce
391 while I figure that out. I like tools that keep things simple. I enjoy
392 Python and shell scripting. I went to an Arduino workshop recently and
393 it was awesome seeing how easy and simple the IDE software was to get
394 up and running in Debian compared to the users running Windows and OS
397 <p
>I also use mc which some people frown upon slightly. I got used to
398 using Norton Commander in the early
90's and it stuck (I think the
399 people who sneer at it is just jealous that they don
't know how to use
402 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
403 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
405 <p
>I think trying to force it is unproductive. I also think that in
406 many cases it
's appropriate for schools to use non-free systems and I
407 don
't think that there
's any particular moral or ethical problem with
410 <p
>I do think though that free software can already solve so so many
411 problems in educational institutions and it
's just a shame not taking
412 advantage of that.
</p
>
414 <p
>I also think that some curricula need serious review. For example,
415 some areas of the world rely heavily on very specific versions of MS
416 Office, teaching students to parrot menu items instead of learning the
417 general concepts. I think that
's very unproductive because firstly, MS
418 Office
's interface changes drastically every few years and on top of
419 that it also locks in a generation to a product that might not be the
420 best solution for them.
</p
>
422 <p
>To answer your question, I believe that the right strategy is to
423 educate and inform, giving someone the information they require to
424 make a decision that would work for them.
</p
>
429 <title>Third alpha release of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Debian Wheezy
</title>
430 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Third_alpha_release_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Debian_Wheezy.html
</link>
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432 <pubDate>Mon,
10 Jun
2013 22:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
433 <description><p
>The third wheezy based alpha release of Debian Edu was wrapped up
434 today. This is the release announcement:
</p
>
436 <p
><strong
>New features for Debian Edu
7.0.0 alpha2 released
437 2013-
06-
10</strong
></p
>
439 <p
>This is the release notes for for Debian Edu / Skolelinux
7.0.0 edu
440 alpha2, based on Debian with codename
"Wheezy
".
</p
>
442 <p
><strong
>About Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</strong
></p
>
444 <p
><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu, also known as
445 Skolelinux
</a
>, is a Linux distribution based on Debian providing an
446 out-of-the box environment of a completely configured school
447 network. Immediately after installation a school server running all
448 services needed for a school network is set up just waiting for users
449 and machines being added via GOsa², a comfortable Web-UI. A netbooting
450 environment is prepared using PXE, so after initial installation of
451 the main server from CD, DVD or USB stick all other machines can be
452 installed via the network. The provided school server provides LDAP
453 database and Kerberos authentication service, centralized home
454 directories, DHCP server, web proxy and many other services. The
456 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Educational_applications_included_in_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux__the_screenshot_collection____.html
">more
457 than
60 educational software packages
</a
> and more are available from
458 the Debian archive, and schools can choose between KDE, Gnome, LXDE
459 and Xfce desktop environment.
</p
>
461 <p
>This is the third test release based on Debian Wheezy. Basically
462 this is an updated and slightly improved version compared to the
463 Squeeze release.
</p
>
465 <p
><strong
>Software updates
</strong
></p
>
469 <li
>Iceweasel was updated from
10 to
17. (DSA
2699-
1)
470 <li
>Updated libxv (DSA-
2674), libxvmc (DSA-
2675), libxfixes (DSA-
2676), libxrender (DSA-
2677), mesa (DSA-
2678), xserver-xorg-video-openchrome (DSA-
2679), libxt (DSA-
2680), libxcursor (DSA-
2681), libxext (DSA-
2682), libxi (DSA-
2683), libxrandr (DSA-
2684), libxp (DSA-
2685), libxcb (DSA-
2686), libfs (DSA-
2687), libxres (DSA-
2688), libxtst (DSA-
2689), libxxf86dga (DSA-
2690), libxinerama (DSA-
2691), libxxf86vm (DSA-
2692), libx11 (DSA-
2693), chromium-browser (DSA-
2695), gnutls26 (DSA-
2697), wireshark (DSA-
2700), krb5 (DSA-
2701), telepathy-gabble (DSA-
2702) and subversion (DSA-
2703).
471 <li
>Switched xrdp on thin client servers to use tightvncserver instead of xvnc4.
472 <li
>Now install software oscilloscope xoscope by default.
473 <li
>Now install music tools gtick, lingot and pianobooster by default.
477 <p
><strong
>Other changes
</strong
></p
>
481 <li
>The subnet-change script is now able to change all files needing a change on the main-server when changing the IP network used.
482 <li
>Updated translation of the installation.
483 <li
>New Romanian translation.
484 <li
>Fix security problem causing root and first user password to no longer show up in /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat.
485 <li
>Fix roaming workstation setup (Closed in libpam-mklocaluser/
0.8, libpam-mklocaluser/
0.8~deb7u1: #
706753: libpam-mklocaluser: Fail to create local user during first login).
486 <li
>Made roaming workstation setup more robust in non-Debian Edu environments.
487 <li
>New script debian-edu-bless to transform a Debian installation to a Debian Edu profile.
488 <li
>Adjust Iceweasel setup to improve performance when $HOME is on NFS.
489 <li
>More testsuite tests.
490 <li
>Make automatic proxy configuration more robust.
491 <li
>Adjust GOsa² GUI configuration.
493 <li
>Update thin client and diskless workstation setup to work with
494 LTSP in Wheezy.
</li
>
496 <li
>Diskless workstations now run out of the box -- no need to set
497 them up with GOsa².
</li
>
499 <li
>Update IMAP server setup.
</li
>
501 <li
>Fix login into Skolelinux Backup Tool (Closed in
502 slbackup-php/
0.4.4-
1: #
700257: slbackup-php: Fails to submit correctly
503 entered password).
</li
>
507 <p
><strong
>Known issues
</strong
></p
>
511 <li
>DVD binary and source images are not yet ready.
</li
>
513 <li
>No mass import of user account data in GOsa (ldif or csv)
514 available yet (Open in gosa/
2.7.4-
4: #
698840: gosa-plugin-ldapmanager:
515 missing import feature).
</li
>
517 <li
>Missing artwork for the KDE desktop (and probably a few others).
</li
>
519 <li
>KDE Debian submenu lacks icons (Closed: #
502192: menu-xdg: invents
520 own icon names instead of using existing). This will remain
525 <p
><strong
>Where to get it
</strong
></p
>
527 <p
>To download the multiarch netinstall CD release you can use
</p
>
531 <li
><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.0+edu0~a2-CD.iso
">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.0+edu0~a2-CD.iso
</a
></li
>
533 <li
><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.0+edu0~a2-CD.iso
">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.0+edu0~a2-CD.iso
</a
></li
>
535 <li
>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.0+edu0~a2-CD.iso .
</li
>
539 <p
>The MD5SUM of this image is:
27bbcace407743382f3c42c08dbe8178
540 <br
>The SHA1SUM of this image is: e35f7d7908566cd3075375b3721fa10ee420d419
</p
>
542 <p
><strong
>How to report bugs
</strong
></p
>
544 <p
><a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
</a
>
549 <title>Is there a PHP expert in the building? Debian Edu need help!
</title>
550 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Is_there_a_PHP_expert_in_the_building___Debian_Edu_need_help_.html
</link>
551 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Is_there_a_PHP_expert_in_the_building___Debian_Edu_need_help_.html
</guid>
552 <pubDate>Wed,
5 Jun
2013 17:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
553 <description><p
>Here is a call for help from the Debian Edu / Skolelinux project.
554 We have two problems blocking the release of the Wheezy version we
555 hope to get released soon. The two problems require some with PHP
556 skills, and we seem to lack anyone with both time and PHP skills in
561 <li
>It is impossible to log into the slbackup web interface
562 (slbackup-php) using the root user and password. This is
563 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
700257">BTS report #
700257</a
>.
564 This used to work, but stopped working some time since Squeeze.
565 Perhaps some obsolete PHP feature was used?
</li
>
567 <li
>It is not possible to
"mass import
" user lists in Gosa, neither
568 using ldif nor using CSV files. The feature was disabled after a
569 major rewrite of Gosa, and need to be ported to the new system.
570 This is
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
698840">BTS report
571 #
698840</a
>.
</li
>
575 <p
>If you can help us, please join us on IRC
576 (
<a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%
23debian-edu
">#debian-edu on
577 irc.debian.org
</a
>) and provide patches via the BTS.
</p
>
582 <title>Debian Edu interview: Cédric Boutillier
</title>
583 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__C_dric_Boutillier.html
</link>
584 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__C_dric_Boutillier.html
</guid>
585 <pubDate>Tue,
4 Jun
2013 10:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
586 <description><p
>It has been a while since my last English
587 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a
>
588 interview last November. But the developers and translators are still
589 pulling along to get the Wheezy based release out the door, and this
590 time I managed to get an interview from one of the French translators
591 in the project, Cédric Boutillier.
</p
>
593 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
595 <p
>I am
34 year old. I live near Paris, France. I am an assistant
596 professor in probability theory. I spend my daytime teaching
597 mathematics at the university and doing fundamental research in
598 probability in connexion with combinatorics and statistical physics.
</p
>
600 <p
>I have been involved in the Debian project for a couple of years
601 and became Debian Developer a few months ago. I am working on Ruby
602 packaging, publicity and translation.
</p
>
604 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
605 project?
</strong
></p
>
607 <p
>I came to the Debian Edu project after a call for translation of
608 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Manuals
">the
609 Debian Edu manual
</a
> for the release of Debian Edu Squeeze. Since
610 then, I have been working on updating the French translation of the
613 <p
>I had the opportunity to make an installation of Debian Edu in a
614 virtual machine when I was preparing localised version of some screen
615 shots for the manual. I was amazed to see it worked out of the box and
616 how comprehensive the list of software installed by default was.
</p
>
618 <p
>What amazed me was the complete network infrastructure directly
619 ready to use, which can and the nice administration interface provided
620 by
<a href=
"https://oss.gonicus.de/labs/gosa/
">GOsa²
</a
>. What pleased
621 me also was the fact that among the software installed by default,
622 there were many
"traditional
" educative software to learn languages,
623 to count, to program... but also software to develop creativity and
624 artistic skills with music (
<a href=
"http://ardour.org/
">Ardour
</a
>,
625 <a href=
"http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
">Audacity
</a
>) and
626 movies/animation (I was especially thinking of
627 <a href=
"http://linuxstopmotion.sourceforge.net/
">Stopmotion
</a
>).
</p
>
629 <p
>I am following the development of Debian Edu and am hanging out on
630 <a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%
23debian-edu
">#debian-edu
</a
>.
631 Unfortunately, I don
't much time to get more involved in this
632 beautiful project.
</p
>
634 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
635 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
637 <p
>For me, the main advantages of Skolelinux/Debian Edu are its
638 community of experts and its precise documentation, as well as the
639 fact that it provides a solution ready to use.
</p
>
641 <p
>I would add also the fact that it is based on the rock solid Debian
642 distribution, which ensures stability and provides a huge collection
643 of educational free software.
</p
>
645 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
646 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
648 <p
>Maybe the lack of manpower to do lobbying on the
649 project. Sometimes, people who need to take decisions concerning IT do
650 not have all the elements to evaluate properly free software
651 solutions. The fact that support by a company may be difficult to find
652 is probably a problem if the school does not have IT personnel.
</p
>
654 <p
>One can find support from a company by looking at
655 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Help/ProfessionalHelp
">the
656 wiki dokumentation
</a
>, where some countries already have a number of
657 companies providing support for Debian Edu, like Germany or
658 Norway. This list is easy to find readily from the manual. However,
659 for other countries, like France, the list is empty. I guess that
660 consultants proposing support for Debian would be able to provide some
661 support for Debian Edu as well.
</p
>
663 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
665 <p
>I am using the KDE Plasma Desktop. But the pieces of software I use
666 most runs in a terminal: Mutt and OfflineIMAP for emails, latex for
667 scientific documents, mpd for music. VIM is my editor of choice. I am
668 also using the mathematical software
669 <a href=
"http://www.scilab.org/en/scilab/about
">Scilab
</a
> and
670 <a href=
"http://www.sagemath.org/index.html
">Sage
</a
> (built from
671 source as not completely packaged for Debian, yet).
673 <p
><strong
>Do you have any suggestions for teachers interested in
674 using the free software in Debian to teach mathematics and
675 statistics?
</strong
></p
>
677 <p
>I do not have any
"nice
" recommendations for statistics. At our
678 university, we use both
<a href=
"http://www.r-project.org/
">R
</a
> and
679 Scilab to teach statistics and probabilistic simulations. For
680 geometry, there are nice programs:
</p
>
684 <li
><a href=
"http://www.drgeo.eu/
">drgeo
</a
> and
685 <a href=
"http://edu.kde.org/applications/all/kig
">kig
</a
> to do
686 constructions in planar geometry
688 <li
><a href=
"http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/software/download/kali.html
">kali
</a
>
689 to discover symmetry groups (the so-called wallpapers and frieze
690 groups), although the interface looks a bit old.
</li
>
695 <a href=
"http://edu.kde.org/applications/all/cantor
">cantor
</a
>, which
696 provides a uniform interface to SciLab, Sage,
697 <a href=
"http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Octave
">Octave
</a
>, etc...
</p
>
699 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
700 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
702 <p
>My suggestions would be to
</p
>
706 <li
>advertise the reduction of costs when free software is used.
</li
>
708 <li
>communicate about the quality of free software projects, using
709 well known examples like Firefox, ThunderBird and
710 OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice.
</li
>
712 <li
>advertise the living and strong community around the project.
</li
>
714 <li
>show that it is not more difficult to use than any other
722 <title>Educational applications included in Debian Edu / Skolelinux (the screenshot collection :-)
</title>
723 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Educational_applications_included_in_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux__the_screenshot_collection____.html
</link>
724 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Educational_applications_included_in_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux__the_screenshot_collection____.html
</guid>
725 <pubDate>Sat,
1 Jun
2013 23:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
726 <description><p
>Included in
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu /
727 Skolelinux
</a
>, there are quite a lot of educational software.
728 Created to help teachers teach, and pupils learn. We have tried to
729 tag them all using debtags use::learning and role::program, and using
730 the debtags I was happy to be able to create a collage of the
731 educational software packages installed by default, sorted by the
732 debtag field. Here it is. Click on a image to learn more about the
735 <!-- for f in $(debtags tagcat|grep field::|awk
'{print $
2}
'); do echo; echo
"<p
><strong
>$f
</strong
></p
>"; echo
"<p
>"; ( for p in $(debtags search --names
"use::learning
&& interface::x11
&& role::program
&& $f
"); do img=
"<img src=
'http://screenshots.debian.net/thumbnail/$p
' alt=
'$p
'>"; if dpkg -s $p
> /dev/null
2>&1; then echo
"<a href=
'http://packages.qa.debian.org/$p
'>$img
</a
>"; fi; done; ) | LANG=C sort; echo
"</p
>"; done --
>
737 <p
><strong
>field::arts
</strong
></p
>
739 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=audacity
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/audacity.png
' alt=
'audacity
'></a
>
740 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=childsplay
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/childsplay.png
' alt=
'childsplay
'></a
>
741 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=denemo
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/denemo.png
' alt=
'denemo
'></a
>
742 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=freebirth
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/freebirth.png
' alt=
'freebirth
'></a
>
743 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=gcompris
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gcompris.png
' alt=
'gcompris
'></a
>
744 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=gimp
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gimp.png
' alt=
'gimp
'></a
>
745 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=hydrogen
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/hydrogen.png
' alt=
'hydrogen
'></a
>
746 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=lilypond
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/lilypond.png
' alt=
'lilypond
'></a
>
747 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=lmms
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/lmms.png
' alt=
'lmms
'></a
>
748 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=rosegarden
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/rosegarden.png
' alt=
'rosegarden
'></a
>
749 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=scribus
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/scribus.png
' alt=
'scribus
'></a
>
750 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=solfege
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/solfege.png
' alt=
'solfege
'></a
>
751 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=stopmotion
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/stopmotion.png
' alt=
'stopmotion
'></a
>
752 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=tuxpaint
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/tuxpaint.png
' alt=
'tuxpaint
'></a
>
755 <p
><strong
>field::astronomy
</strong
></p
>
757 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=celestia-gnome
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/celestia-gnome.png
' alt=
'celestia-gnome
'></a
>
758 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=gpredict
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gpredict.png
' alt=
'gpredict
'></a
>
759 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=kstars
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/kstars.png
' alt=
'kstars
'></a
>
760 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=planets
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/planets.png
' alt=
'planets
'></a
>
761 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=stellarium
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/stellarium.png
' alt=
'stellarium
'></a
>
762 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=xplanet
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/xplanet.png
' alt=
'xplanet
'></a
>
765 <p
><strong
>field::biology:structural
</strong
></p
>
767 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=pymol
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/pymol.png
' alt=
'pymol
'></a
>
770 <p
><strong
>field::chemistry
</strong
></p
>
772 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=atomix
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/atomix.png
' alt=
'atomix
'></a
>
773 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=chemtool
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/chemtool.png
' alt=
'chemtool
'></a
>
774 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=easychem
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/easychem.png
' alt=
'easychem
'></a
>
775 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=gchempaint
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gchempaint.png
' alt=
'gchempaint
'></a
>
776 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=gdis
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gdis.png
' alt=
'gdis
'></a
>
777 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=ghemical
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/ghemical.png
' alt=
'ghemical
'></a
>
778 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=gperiodic
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gperiodic.png
' alt=
'gperiodic
'></a
>
779 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=kalzium
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/kalzium.png
' alt=
'kalzium
'></a
>
780 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=pymol
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/pymol.png
' alt=
'pymol
'></a
>
781 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=viewmol
'>[viewmol]
</a
>
782 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=xdrawchem
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/xdrawchem.png
' alt=
'xdrawchem
'></a
>
785 <p
><strong
>field::electronics
</strong
></p
>
787 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=gcompris
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gcompris.png
' alt=
'gcompris
'></a
>
788 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=gpsim
'>[gpsim]
</a
>
791 <p
><strong
>field::geography
</strong
></p
>
793 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=kgeography
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/kgeography.png
' alt=
'kgeography
'></a
>
794 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=marble
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/marble.png
' alt=
'marble
'></a
>
795 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=xplanet
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/xplanet.png
' alt=
'xplanet
'></a
>
798 <p
><strong
>field::linguistics
</strong
></p
>
800 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=gcompris
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gcompris.png
' alt=
'gcompris
'></a
>
801 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=kanagram
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/kanagram.png
' alt=
'kanagram
'></a
>
802 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=khangman
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/khangman.png
' alt=
'khangman
'></a
>
803 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=klettres
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/klettres.png
' alt=
'klettres
'></a
>
804 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=parley
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/parley.png
' alt=
'parley
'></a
>
807 <p
><strong
>field::mathematics
</strong
></p
>
809 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=childsplay
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/childsplay.png
' alt=
'childsplay
'></a
>
810 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=drgeo
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/drgeo.png
' alt=
'drgeo
'></a
>
811 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=gcompris
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gcompris.png
' alt=
'gcompris
'></a
>
812 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=geogebra
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/geogebra.png
' alt=
'geogebra
'></a
>
813 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=geomview
'>[geomview]
</a
>
814 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=grace
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/grace.png
' alt=
'grace
'></a
>
815 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=graphmonkey
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/graphmonkey.png
' alt=
'graphmonkey
'></a
>
816 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=graphthing
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/graphthing.png
' alt=
'graphthing
'></a
>
817 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=kalgebra
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/kalgebra.png
' alt=
'kalgebra
'></a
>
818 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=kbruch
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/kbruch.png
' alt=
'kbruch
'></a
>
819 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=kig
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/kig.png
' alt=
'kig
'></a
>
820 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=kmplot
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/kmplot.png
' alt=
'kmplot
'></a
>
821 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=mathwar
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/mathwar.png
' alt=
'mathwar
'></a
>
822 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=rocs
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/rocs.png
' alt=
'rocs
'></a
>
823 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=scratch
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/scratch.png
' alt=
'scratch
'></a
>
824 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=tuxmath
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/tuxmath.png
' alt=
'tuxmath
'></a
>
825 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=xabacus
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/xabacus.png
' alt=
'xabacus
'></a
>
828 <p
><strong
>field::physics
</strong
></p
>
830 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=gcompris
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gcompris.png
' alt=
'gcompris
'></a
>
831 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=step
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/step.png
' alt=
'step
'></a
>
834 <p
><strong
>field::TODO
</strong
></p
>
836 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=blinken
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/blinken.png
' alt=
'blinken
'></a
>
837 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=cgoban
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/cgoban.png
' alt=
'cgoban
'></a
>
838 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=childsplay
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/childsplay.png
' alt=
'childsplay
'></a
>
839 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=gcompris
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gcompris.png
' alt=
'gcompris
'></a
>
840 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=gnuchess
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gnuchess.png
' alt=
'gnuchess
'></a
>
841 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=gnugo
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gnugo.png
' alt=
'gnugo
'></a
>
842 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=gtans
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gtans.png
' alt=
'gtans
'></a
>
843 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=ktouch
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/ktouch.png
' alt=
'ktouch
'></a
>
844 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=librecad
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/librecad.png
' alt=
'librecad
'></a
>
845 <a href=
'http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names
&exact=
1&suite=all
&section=all
&keywords=scratch
'><img src=
'http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/scratch.png
' alt=
'scratch
'></a
>
848 <p
>In total,
61 applications.
3 of them lacked screen shots on
849 <a href=
"http://screenshot.debian.net
">screenshot.debian.net
</a
>. If
850 you know of some packages we should install by default, please let us
851 know on
<a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%
23debian-edu
">IRC, #debian-edu
852 on irc.debian.org
</a
>, or our
853 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/
">mailing list
854 debian-edu@
</a
>.
</p
>
859 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Nirosan Thiyagalingam
</title>
860 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Nirosan_Thiyagalingam.html
</link>
861 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Nirosan_Thiyagalingam.html
</guid>
862 <pubDate>Fri,
24 May
2013 21:
40:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
863 <description><p
>En ting
864 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux-prosjektet
</a
> har
865 hatt mye glede av er studentprosjekter. F.eks. er
866 <a href=
"http://linuxstopmotion.org/
">stillbildeanimasjonssystemet
867 Stopmotion
</a
> resultat av et studentprosjekt i Skolelinux. De siste
868 månedene har en ivrig student veiledet av Marius Kotsbak i
869 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">FRiSK
</a
> testet hva en
870 kan få til med en datamaskin til NOK
400,- (antagelig
1700,- med
871 skjerm, tastatur og mus) når det brukes i Skolelinux. Jeg spurte han
872 om et intervju.
</p
>
874 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
876 <p
>Jeg heter Nirosan Thiyagalingam. Jeg er
24 år og studerer
877 dataingeniør studiet ved Høgskolen i Sør Trøndelag. Interessen for
878 data har siden ung alder vært tilstede og jeg har i tillegg alltid
879 vært glad i å lære nye ting. Med teknologi som endres svært hurtig er
880 det alltid noe nytt å lære. Noe som igjen har gjort det svært
881 interessant å følge med på utviklingen. Jeg valgte dataingeniør
882 studiet grunnet ønske om å lære enda mer om programmering og utvikling
883 av store systemer.
</p
>
885 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
887 <p
>Skolelinux prosjektet hørte jeg først om i media. Men det var først
888 når jeg skulle velge bacheloroppgave at jeg fattet mer interesse for
889 prosjektet. Et enkelt søk på nettet førte meg til skolelinux sine
890 hjemmesider. Informasjonen jeg fant der gjorde meg enda nysgjerrig og
891 jeg valgte derfor en oppgave som gikk ut på å få en
892 <a href=
"http://www.raspberrypi.org
">Raspberry PI
</a
>. Altså en
893 ultra-billig datamaskin til å kjøre Debian Edu på lik linje med
894 vanlige datamaskiner. I løpet av prosjektet ble det gjort mye
895 forskning på nettet. Det var mye jeg måtte forstå rundt hvordan
896 operativsystemet Linux fungerte før jeg kunne angripe
897 problemet. Prøvde først å finne ut hvordan man kunne transformere en
898 vanlig installasjon av Skolelinux til Raspberry PI, men dette var
899 altfor vanskelig å jeg endte opp med mer spørsmål enn svar. Det ble
900 videre opprettet kontakt med Skolelinux utviklere på IRC der jeg fikk
901 diskutert hvilken retning jeg burde gå for å få til en fullverdig
902 løsning. Det ble bestemt at jeg skulle gå for å først installere
903 <a href=
"http://www.raspbian.org/
">Raspian
</a
>. Dette er et
904 operativsystem basert på Debian spesiallaget for Raspberry Pi sin
905 maskinvare. Nå som Debian var installert på datamaskinen gjenstod det
906 å installere de nødvendige Skolelinux pakkene for å få til et
907 fullverdig system. Disse pakkene ble installert manuelt i første
908 omgang, men ble senere installert automatisk via et script som Petter
909 Reinholdtsen laget. Dette scriptet er så enkel å bruke at man er i
910 gang med installasjonen i løpet av bare
5 minutter. Ikke nok med det,
911 alt skjer helt automatisk. Alt i alt er jeg veldig fornøyd med
912 resultatet av installasjonsprosessen. Raspberry Pi er en veldig svak
913 maskin og det merkes godt når man har installert Skolelinux på
914 den. Video og
3D-rendering fungerer utrolig dårlig, men nettsurfing og
915 kontorprogrammer fungerer godt. Det kan derfor konkluderes med at
916 datamaskinen er egnet for enkle oppgaver.
918 <p
>Jeg syns det er viktig påpeke at dette kun er startfasen av en slik
919 løsning. På markedet finnes det nå maskiner som har bedre hardware enn
920 Raspberry Pi. Det er store muligheter for at man kan klare å
921 installere Skolelinux på disse også, og da forsvinner nok mest
922 sannsynlig ytelsesproblemene med Video og
3D rendering også.
</p
>
924 <p
>Det ble også prøvd med en løsning som gjorde at Raspberry Pi
925 fungerte som en tynnklient. Denne løsningen hadde langt bedre ytelse
926 med tanke på hastighet og brukeropplevelse. Men også her var video og
927 3D rendering dårlig. Det ble brukt en liten Linux distribusjon kalt
928 <a href=
"http://www.berryterminal.com/
">BerryTerminal
</a
> for å få til
931 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
933 <p
>Fordelen med Skolelinux er mange. At det er gratis er en stor
934 fordel, men at det er så mange som er med på å utvikle det og
935 vedlikeholde det er en enda større fordel. Allerede før jeg startet
936 med prosjektet så jeg mange fordeler, og når jeg nærmet meg sluttfasen
937 så jeg langt flere. At prosjektet skulle inneha en så høy kvalitet
938 hadde jeg aldri trodd. En vanlig Skolelinux installasjon har de
939 nødvendige programmene og funksjonen som både små og store skoler i
940 tillegg til organisasjoner kan klare seg med. At prosjektet tilbyr en
941 så komplett løsning er en kjempefordel. Installasjonen er knirkefri
942 og det er svært enkelt å installere og komme i gang.
</p
>
944 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
946 <p
>Ulempene jeg ser med prosjektet er ryddigheten av websidene. Selv
947 om websidene er enkle og konsise er det allikevel ikke appellerende i
948 like stor grad som for eksempel
949 <a href=
"http://www.ubuntu.com
">Ubuntu
</a
> sine sider. Deres side
950 tilbyr, i tillegg til godt design og presentasjon, en nettbasert
951 emulator av deres operativsystem. Dette er en stor fordel slik jeg ser
952 det. Bortsett fra dette ser jeg absolutt ingen ulemper med
953 Skolelinux-prosjektet.
</p
>
955 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
957 <p
>Til daglig er jeg en flittig bruker av det åpne media
958 sentersystemet
<a href=
"http://xbmc.org/
">XBMC
</a
>. Det enorme
959 samfunnet rundt dette prosjektet har gjort dette til et program som
960 dekker alles behov. Man kan tilpasse det akkurat slik man vil både med
961 tanke på utseende og funksjoner ved installere plug-ins eller
964 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
965 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
967 <p
>Strategien som burde brukes sett fra mine øyne er
968 markedsføring. Jeg er sikker på at om flere skoler fikk et lite innsyn
969 i hvor bra Skolelinux er så ville de ikke nølt med å gå over fra noe
970 annet som koster de store summer. At skolelinux til de grader tilbyr
971 en så komplett løsning bure komme frem. Enten via reklamekampanjer
972 eller ved å sende ut folk til skoler for så å la skolenettverk
973 ansvarlige få teste ut hvordan Skolelinux fungerer i praksis. Om det
974 i tillegg ble utviklet gode websider og en emulator for å la brukere
975 prøve operativsystemet ville nok dette ha styrket inntrykket
976 betraktelig.
</p
>
981 <title>How to transform a Debian based system to a Debian Edu installation
</title>
982 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/How_to_transform_a_Debian_based_system_to_a_Debian_Edu_installation.html
</link>
983 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/How_to_transform_a_Debian_based_system_to_a_Debian_Edu_installation.html
</guid>
984 <pubDate>Fri,
17 May
2013 11:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
985 <description><p
><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a
> is
986 an operating system based on Debian intended for use in schools. It
987 contain a turn-key solution for the computer network provided to
988 pupils in the primary schools. It provide both the central server,
989 network boot servers and desktop environments with heaps of
990 educational software. The project was founded almost
12 years ago,
991 2001-
07-
02. If you want to support the project, which is in need for
992 cash to fund developer gatherings and other project related activity,
993 <a href=
"http://www.linuxiskolen.no/slxdebianlabs/donations.html
">please
994 donate some money
</a
>.
996 <p
>A topic that come up again and again on the Debian Edu mailing
997 lists and elsewhere, is the question on how to transform a Debian or
998 Ubuntu installation into a Debian Edu installation. It isn
't very
999 hard, and last week I wrote a script to replicate the steps done by
1000 the Debian Edu installer.
</p
>
1002 <p
>The script,
1003 <a href=
"http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debian-edu/branches/wheezy/debian-edu-config/share/debian-edu-config/tools/debian-edu-bless?view=markup
">debian-edu-bless
<a/
>
1004 in the debian-edu-config package, will go through these six steps and
1005 transform an existing Debian Wheezy or Ubuntu (untested) installation
1006 into a Debian Edu Workstation:
</p
>
1010 <li
>Add skolelinux related APT sources.
</li
>
1011 <li
>Create /etc/debian-edu/config with the wanted configuration.
</li
>
1012 <li
>Install debian-edu-install to load preseeding values and pull in
1013 our configuration.
</li
>
1014 <li
>Preseed debconf database with profile setup in
1015 /etc/debian-edu/config, and run tasksel to install packages
1016 according to the profile specified in the config above,
1017 overriding some of the Debian automation machinery.
</li
>
1018 <li
>Run debian-edu-cfengine-D installation to configure everything
1019 that could not be done using preseeding.
</li
>
1020 <li
>Ask for a reboot to enable all the configuration changes.
</li
>
1024 <p
>There are some steps in the Debian Edu installation that can not be
1025 replicated like this. Disk partitioning and LVM setup, for example.
1026 So this script just assume there is enough disk space to install all
1027 the needed packages.
</p
>
1029 <p
>The script was created to help a Debian Edu student working on
1030 setting up
<a href=
"http://www.raspberrypi.org
">Raspberry Pi
</a
> as a
1031 Debian Edu client, and using it he can take the existing
1032 <a href=
"http://www.raspbian.org/FrontPage
">Raspbian
</a
> installation and
1033 transform it into a fully functioning Debian Edu Workstation (or
1034 Roaming Workstation, or whatever :).
</p
>
1036 <p
>The default setting in the script is to create a KDE Workstation.
1037 If a LXDE based Roaming workstation is wanted instead, modify the
1038 PROFILE and DESKTOP values at the top to look like this instead:
</p
>
1040 <p
><pre
>
1041 PROFILE=
"Roaming-Workstation
"
1042 DESKTOP=
"lxde
"
1043 </pre
></p
>
1045 <p
>The script could even become useful to set up Debian Edu servers in
1046 the cloud, by starting with a virtual Debian installation at some
1047 virtual hosting service and setting up all the services on first
1053 <title>Second alpha release of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Debian Wheezy
</title>
1054 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Second_alpha_release_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Debian_Wheezy.html
</link>
1055 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Second_alpha_release_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Debian_Wheezy.html
</guid>
1056 <pubDate>Tue,
14 May
2013 23:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
1057 <description><p
>The
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
1058 project
</a
> is making great progress and made its second Wheezy based
1059 release today. This is the release announcement:
</p
>
1061 <p
><strong
>New features for Debian Edu
7.0.0 alpha1 released
1062 2013-
05-
14</strong
></p
>
1064 <p
>This is the release notes for for Debian Edu / Skolelinux
7.0.0 edu
1065 alpha1, based on
<a href=
"http://www.debian.org
">Debian
</a
> with
1066 codename
"Wheezy
".
</p
>
1068 <p
><strong
>About Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</strong
></p
>
1070 <p
>Debian Edu, also known as Skolelinux, is a Linux distribution based
1071 on Debian providing an out-of-the box environment of a completely
1072 configured school network. Immediatly after installation a school
1073 server running all services needed for a school network is set up just
1074 waiting for users and machines being added via GOsa², a comfortable
1075 Web-UI. A netbooting environment is prepared using PXE, so after
1076 initial installation of the main server from CD, DVD or USB stick all
1077 other machines can be installed via the network.
</p
>
1079 <p
>This is the first test release based on Wheezy (which currently is
1080 not released yet). Basically this is an updated and slightly improved
1081 version compared to the Squeeze release.
</p
>
1083 <p
><strong
>Software updates
</strong
></p
>
1085 <li
>Install freemind (
0.9.0) by default, and stop installing vym by
1087 <li
>Install chromium (
26.0.1410.43) by default.
</li
>
1088 <li
>Install goplay (
0.5-
1.1) to make golearn available by default.
</li
>
1089 <li
>Updated support for Japanese input methods, now based on
1090 ibus-anthy.
</li
>
1093 <p
><strong
>Other changes
</strong
></p
>
1096 <li
>Switched default file system from ext3 to ext4 for speed and
1097 reliability improvements.
</li
>
1098 <li
>Got rid of unwanted winbind daemon and PAM setup activated because
1099 of
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
706434">706434</a
>.
</li
>
1100 <li
>Extended and improved the testsuite tests to detect more possible
1101 problems.
</li
>
1102 <li
>Corrected proxy handling to not set http_proxy to a bogus
1103 direct:// URL.
</li
>
1104 <li
>Corrected proxy setup for diskless workstations.
</li
>
1105 <li
>Corrected PXE setup to use our updated udebs during installation.
</li
>
1106 <li
>Made installation handling of low entropy level more robust.
</li
>
1107 <li
>Create larger partitions for Roaming workstations and Thin client
1108 servers, to make room for all the software installed.
</li
>
1109 <li
>Fix bug in Roaming workstation PAM setup, making it impossible to
1110 log in (
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
706753">706753</a
>).
</li
>
1113 <p
><strong
>Known issues
</strong
></p
>
1116 <li
>IP resolution for the local hostname give useless IPv6 address
1117 (
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
705900">705900</a
>). Only install
1118 libnss-myhostname on roaming workstations until it is fixed.
</li
>
1119 <li
>DVD images are not yet ready.
</li
>
1120 <li
>No mass import of user account data in GOsa (ldif or csv)
1121 available yet (
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
698840">698840</a
>).
</li
>
1122 <li
>Missing artwork for the KDE desktop (and probably a few others).
</li
>
1123 <li
>KDE Debian submenu lacks icons.
</li
>
1124 <li
>LXDE menu lacks entry for changing GOsa password
1125 (website). Installing gosa-desktop will be an option.
</li
>
1126 <li
>Backup configuration via web interface is impossible due to
1127 password submission problem
1128 (
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
700257">700257</a
>).
</li
>
1132 <p
><strong
>Where to get it
</strong
></p
>
1134 <p
>To download the multiarch netinstall CD release you can use
</p
>
1137 <li
><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu~
7.0+edu0~a1-CD.iso
">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu~
7.0+edu0~a1-CD.iso
</a
></li
>
1138 <li
><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu~
7.0+edu0~a1-CD.iso
">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu~
7.0+edu0~a1-CD.iso
</a
></li
>
1139 <li
>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu~
7.0+edu0~a1-CD.iso debian-edu~
7.0+edu0~a1-CD.iso
</li
>
1143 <p
>The MD5SUM of this image is:
685ed76c1aa8e44b12d3fde21faf450b
</p
>
1145 <p
>The SHA1SUM of this image is:
6c874de157024da13e115bab29c068080a11ec4c
</p
>
1147 <p
><strong
>How to report bugs
</strong
></p
>
1149 <p
><a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
</a
></p
>
1154 <title>Narvik sparer minst
9 millioner på å bruke Skolelinux
</title>
1155 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Narvik_sparer_minst_9_millioner_p____bruke_Skolelinux.html
</link>
1156 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Narvik_sparer_minst_9_millioner_p____bruke_Skolelinux.html
</guid>
1157 <pubDate>Fri,
10 May
2013 18:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
1158 <description><p
>I fjor sommer ble jeg
1159 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gladoppslag_om_Skolelinux_i_avisen_Fremover.html
">gledelig
1160 overrasket
</a
> over et oppslag i avisen Fremover om Narvik kommunes
1161 bruk av
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>. Oppslaget
1162 var basert på et notat som besvarte spørsmål fra ordfører Tor Nysæter
1163 og rådgiver for skolesektoren, Petter Falkbu, om bruken av Skolelinux
1164 i Narvikskolene og konstnaden ved å gå over til Windows. For litt
1165 over en uke siden siden fikk jeg endelig bedt kommunen om å få innsyn
1166 i dette notatet, og det ble oversendt på epost tirsdag. Jeg fikk
1167 <a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/pub/offentliginnsyn/from-Narvik-kommune/
2013-
04-
29-
09:
12-skolelinux-notat/PetterFalkbuogwindowsfornarvikskolen%
20(L)
351310.pdf
">lagt
1168 ut notatet
</a
> samme dag, og fikk i dag sjekket postlista til Narvik,
1169 der jeg fant notatet som
1170 <a href=
"https://www.narvik.kommune.no/innsyn.aspx?response=arkivsak_detaljer
&arkivsakid=
2013001023&scripturi=/innsyn.aspx
&skin=infolink
&Mid1=
301&">sak
1171 2013/
1023</a
>.
</p
>
1173 <p
>Notatet forteller at Narvik ville måtte betalt minst
9 millioner
1174 for å gå over til Windows på skolene. I tillegg dokumenterer notatet
1175 at læreplanens krav oppfylles uten problemer ved bruk av Skolelinux.
1176 Jeg anbefaler alle å lese de
10 sidene med gode argumenter for å kutte
1177 unødige utgifter på IT i skoleverket. :)
</p
>
1182 <title>Debian Wheezy is out - and Debian Edu / Skolelinux should soon follow! #newinwheezy
</title>
1183 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Wheezy_is_out___and_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_should_soon_follow___newinwheezy.html
</link>
1184 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Wheezy_is_out___and_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_should_soon_follow___newinwheezy.html
</guid>
1185 <pubDate>Sun,
5 May
2013 07:
40:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
1186 <description><p
>When I woke up this morning, I was very happy to see that the
1187 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/
2013/
20130504">release announcement
1188 for Debian Wheezy
</a
> was waiting in my mail box. This is a great
1189 Debian release, and I expect to move my machines at home over to it fairly
1192 <p
>The new debian release contain heaps of new stuff, and one program
1193 in particular make me very happy to see included. The
1194 <a href=
"http://scratch.mit.edu/
">Scratch
</a
> program, made famous by
1195 the
<a href=
"http://www.code.org/
">Teach kids code
</a
> movement, is
1196 included for the first time. Alongside similar programs like
1197 <a href=
"http://edu.kde.org/kturtle/
">kturtle
</a
> and
1198 <a href=
"http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art
">turtleart
</a
>,
1199 it allow for visual programming where syntax errors can not happen,
1200 and a friendly programming environment for learning to control the
1201 computer. Scratch will also be included in the next release of Debian
1204 <p
>And now that Wheezy is wrapped up, we can wrap up the next Debian
1205 Edu/Skolelinux release too. The
1206 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/
2013/
04/msg00132.html
">first
1207 alpha release
</a
> went out last week, and the next should soon
1213 <title>First alpha release of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Debian Wheezy
</title>
1214 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_alpha_release_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Debian_Wheezy.html
</link>
1215 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_alpha_release_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Debian_Wheezy.html
</guid>
1216 <pubDate>Fri,
26 Apr
2013 08:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
1217 <description><p
>The Debian Edu / Skolelinux project is still going strong and made
1218 its first Wheezy based release today. This is the release
1219 announcement:
</p
>
1221 <p
><strong
>New features for Debian Edu ~
7.0.0 alpha0 released
1222 2013-
04-
26</strong
></p
>
1224 <p
>This is the release notes for for Debian Edu / Skolelinux ~
7.0.0
1225 edu alpha0, based on Debian with codename
"Wheezy
".
</p
>
1227 <p
><strong
>About Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</strong
></p
>
1229 <p
><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu, also known as
1230 Skolelinux
</a
>, is a Linux distribution based on Debian providing an
1231 out-of-the box environment of a completely configured school
1232 network. Immediatly after installation a school server running all
1233 services needed for a school network is set up just waiting for users
1234 and machines being added via GOsa², a comfortable Web-UI. A netbooting
1235 environment is prepared using PXE, so after initial installation of
1236 the main server from CD, DVD or USB stick all other machines can be
1237 installed via the network.
</p
>
1239 <p
>This is the first test release based on Wheezy (which currently is
1240 not released yet). Basically this is an updated and slightly improved
1241 version compared to the Squeeze release.
</p
>
1243 <p
><strong
>Software updates
</strong
></p
>
1246 <li
>Everything which is new in Debian Wheezy, eg:
1248 <li
>Linux kernel
3.2.x
</li
>
1249 <li
>Desktop environments KDE
"Plasma
" 4.8.4, GNOME
3.4, and LXDE
4
1250 (KDE is installed by default; to choose GNOME or LXDE: see
1252 <li
>Web browser Iceweasel
10 ESR
</li
>
1253 <li
>LibreOffice
3.5.4</li
>
1254 <li
>LTSP
5.4.2</li
>
1255 <li
>GOsa
2.7.4</li
>
1256 <li
>CUPS print system
1.5.3</li
>
1257 <li
>Educational toolbox GCompris
12.01</li
>
1258 <li
>Music creator Rosegarden
12.04</li
>
1259 <li
>Image editor Gimp
2.8.2</li
>
1260 <li
>Virtual universe Celestia
1.6.1</li
>
1261 <li
>Virtual stargazer Stellarium
0.11.3</li
>
1262 <li
>Scratch visual programming environment
1.4.0.6</li
>
1263 <li
>New version of debian-installer from Debian Wheezy, see
1264 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/installmanual
">installation
1265 manual
</a
> for more details.
</li
>
1266 <li
>Debian Wheezy includes about
37000 packages available for
1267 installation.
</li
>
1268 <li
>More information about Debian Wheezy
7.0 is provided in the
1269 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/releasenotes
">release notes
</a
> and the
<a href=
"http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/installmanual
">installation manual
</a
>.
</li
>
1270 </ul
></li
>
1273 <p
><strong
>Documentation
</strong
></p
>
1275 <li
>The (
<a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Wheezy
">English
</a
>) Debian Edu Wheezy Manual is fully translated to
1276 German, French, Italian and Danish. Partly translated versions exist
1277 for Norwegian Bokmal and Spanish.
</li
>
1280 <p
><Strong
>LDAP related changes
</strong
></p
>
1282 <li
>Slight changes to some objects and acls to have more types to
1283 choose from when adding systems in GOsa. Now systems can be of type
1284 server, workstation, printer, terminal or netdevice.
</li
>
1287 <p
><strong
>Other changes
</strong
></p
>
1289 <li
>LTSP clients start as diskless workstation / thin client can be
1290 configured via command line argument -- or individually adding an
1291 entry in lts.conf or LDAP.
<li
>
1292 <li
>GOsa gui: Now some options that seemed to be available, but are non
1293 functional, are greyed out (or are not clickable). Some tabs are
1294 completely hidden to the end user, others even to the GOsa admin.
</li
>
1297 <p
><strong
>Regressions
</strong
></p
>
1299 <li
>No mass import of user account data in GOsa (ldif or csv) available
1303 <p
><strong
>No updated artwork
</strong
></p
>
1306 <li
>Updated artwork which is visible during installation, in the login
1307 screen and as desktop wallpaper is still missing or the same as we
1308 had for our Squeeze based release.
</li
>
1311 <p
><strong
>Where to get it
</strong
></p
>
1313 To download the multiarch netinstall CD release you can use
1315 <li
><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/
">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/
</a
></li
>
1316 <li
><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/
">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/
</a
></li
>
1317 <li
>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/
</li
>
1320 <p
>The MD5SUM of this image is: c5e773ddafdaa4f48c409c682f598b6c
</p
>
1322 <p
>The SHA1SUM of this image is:
25934fabb9b7d20235499a0a51f08ce6c54215f2
</p
>
1324 <p
><strong
>How to report bugs
</strong
></p
>
1326 <p
><a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
</a
></p
>
1331 <title>First Debian Edu / Skolelinux developer gathering in
2013 take place in Trondheim
</title>
1332 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_developer_gathering_in_2013_take_place_in_Trondheim.html
</link>
1333 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_developer_gathering_in_2013_take_place_in_Trondheim.html
</guid>
1334 <pubDate>Tue,
16 Apr
2013 15:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
1335 <description><p
>This years first
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux /
1336 Debian Edu
</a
> developer gathering take place the coming weekend in Trondheim.
1337 Details about the gathering can be found
1338 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/Gathering/
2013-
04-
19-
21-Trondheim
">on
1339 the FRiSK wiki
</a
>. The dates are
19-
21th of April
2013, and online
1340 participation for those unable to make it in person is very welcome,
1341 and I plan to participate online myself as I could not leave Oslo this
1344 <p
>The focus of the gathering is to work on the web pages and project
1345 infrastructure, and to continue the work on the Wheezy based Debian
1346 Edu release.
</p
>
1348 <p
>See you on
<a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%
23debian-edu
">IRC, #debian-edu on irc.debian.org,
</a
> then?
</p
>
1353 <title>Skolelinux
6 got a video review from Pcwizz
</title>
1354 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_6_got_a_video_review_from_Pcwizz.html
</link>
1355 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_6_got_a_video_review_from_Pcwizz.html
</guid>
1356 <pubDate>Sun,
17 Mar
2013 10:
30:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
1357 <description><p
>Via
1358 <a href=
"https://twitter.com/pcwizz/status/
313044373262716930">twitter
</a
>
1359 I just discovered that
<a href=
"http://pcwizz.net/
">Pcwizz
</a
> have
1360 done a
<a href=
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPzTZ61Pcuc
">video
1361 review
</a
> on Youtube of
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
1362 / Debian Edu
</a
> version
6. He installed the standalone profile and
1363 the video show a walk-through of of the menu content, demonstration of
1364 a few programs and his view of our distribution.
</p
>
1366 <p
>There is also some really nice quotes (transcribed by me, might
1367 have heard wrong). While looking thought the Graphics menu:
</p
>
1370 "Basically everything you ever need in a school environment.
"
1373 <p
>And as a general evaluation of the entire distribution:
</p
>
1376 "So, yeah, a bit bloated. It kept all the Debian stuff in there, just
1377 to keep it nice and GNU. So, I do not want to go on about it, but
1378 lets give it
7 out of
10. I am not going to use it. That is because
1379 I am not deploying a school network. There may be some mythical
1380 feature to help you deploy Skolelinux on a school network.
"
1383 <p
>To bad he did not test the server profile, and discovered the PXE
1384 installation option. It make it possible to install only the main
1385 server from CD, and the rest of the machines via the net, and might be
1386 considered the mythical feature he talk about. :)
</p
>
1388 <p
>While looking through the menus, there is also this funny comment
1389 about the part of the K menu generated from the Debian menu subsystem:
1392 "[The K menu] have a special Debian section for software that no-one
1393 is going to look at, because it contain lots of junky stuff that you
1394 actually don
't need in the education distribution, but have just been
1395 included because it isn
't stripped out for some reason.
"
1398 <p
>I guess it is yet another argument for merging the Debian menu and
1399 Gnome/KDE desktop menu entries into
1400 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/Proposals/DebianMenuUsingDesktopEntries
">one
1401 consistent menu system
</a
> instead of two incomplete and partly
1402 inconsistent menu systems.
</p
>
1404 <p
>The entire video is available below for those accepting iframe
1405 embedding:
</p
>
1407 <iframe width=
"560" height=
"315" src=
"http://www.youtube.com/embed/wPzTZ61Pcuc
" frameborder=
"0" allowfullscreen
></iframe
>
1412 <title>First Skolelinux / Debian Edu Squeeze update released
</title>
1413 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_Skolelinux___Debian_Edu_Squeeze_update_released.html
</link>
1414 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_Skolelinux___Debian_Edu_Squeeze_update_released.html
</guid>
1415 <pubDate>Fri,
8 Mar
2013 09:
30:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
1416 <description><p
>Last Sunday,
2013-
03-
03,, Holger Levsen announced the first update
1417 of
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux / Debian Edu
</a
>
1418 based on Debian Squeeze. This is the first update since
1419 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/
2012/
03/msg00001.html
">the
1420 initial release
2012-
03-
11</a
>. This is the
1421 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/
2013/
03/msg00000.html
">release
1422 announcement email from Holger
</a
>:
</p
>
1424 <blockquote
><p
>Hi,
</p
>
1426 <p
>it
's my pleasure to announce the immediate availability of Debian
1427 Edu
6.0.7+r1 (
"Debian Edu Squeeze
").
</p
>
1429 <p
>Debian Edu
6.0.7+r1 is an incremental update to Debian Edu
1430 6.0.4+r0, containing all the changes between Debian
6.0.4 and
6.0.7 as
1431 well Debian Edu specific bugfixes and enhancements. See below (in this
1432 mail) for the full list of (edu) changes. Please see
1433 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/
2012/
20120311">http://www.debian.org/News/
2012/
20120311</a
>
1434 for more information on
"Debian Edu Squeeze
".
</p
>
1436 <p
>Images are available for download at
1437 <a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/
">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/
</a
></p
>
1440 <br
>1fe79eb4f0f9ae1c58fc318e26cc1e2e debian-edu-
6.0.7+r1-CD.iso
1441 <br
>a6ddd924a8bd9a1b5ca122e8fe1c34ec debian-edu-
6.0.7+r1-DVD.iso
1442 <br
>ac6c72cd7925ccec51bfbf58e2a7c69c debian-edu-
6.0.7+r1-source-DVD.iso
</p
>
1445 <br
>a4b58233b672a99c7df8dc24fb6de3327654a5c3 debian-edu-
6.0.7+r1-CD.iso
1446 <br
>9b524915e0ff2aa793f13d93123e5bd2bab2dbaa debian-edu-
6.0.7+r1-DVD.iso
1447 <br
>43997614893fc5e9e59ad6ce066b05d07fd836fa debian-edu-
6.0.7+r1-source-DVD.iso
</p
>
1449 <p
>These images are suitable for amd64+i386.
</p
>
1451 <p
>Changes for Debian Edu
6.0.7+r1 Codename
"Squeeze
", released
1452 2013-
03-
03:
</p
>
1455 <li
>sitesummary was updated from
0.1.3 to
0.1.8
1457 <li
>Make Nagios configuration more robust and efficient
</li
>
1458 <li
>Comply with
3.X kernel
</li
>
1459 </ul
></li
>
1460 <li
>debian-edu-doc from
1.4~
20120310~
6.0.4+r0 to
1.4~
20130228~
6.0.7+r1
1462 <li
>Minor updates from the wiki
</li
>
1463 <li
>Danish translation now complete
</li
>
1464 </ul
></li
>
1465 <li
>debian-edu-config from
1.453 to
1.455
1467 <li
>Fix /etc/hosts for LTSP diskless workstations. Closes: #
699880</li
>
1468 <li
>Make ltsp_local_mount script work for multiple devices.
</li
>
1469 <li
>Correct Kerberos user policy: don
't expire password after
2 days.
1470 Closes: #
664596</li
>
1471 <li
>Handle
'#
' characters in the root or first users password.
1472 Closes: #
664976</li
>
1473 <li
>Fixes for gosa-sync:
1475 <li
>Don
't fail if password contains
"</li
>
1476 <li
>Don
't disclose new password string in syslog
</li
>
1477 </ul
></li
>
1478 <li
>Fixes for gosa-create:
1480 <li
>Invalidate libnss cache before applying changes
</li
>
1481 <li
>Multiple failures during mass user import into GOsa²
</li
>
1482 <li
>gosa-netgroups plugin: don
't erase entries of attribute type
1483 "memberNisNetgroup
". Closes: #
687256</li
>
1484 <li
>First user now uses the same Kerberos policy as all other users
</li
>
1485 </ul
></li
>
1486 <li
>Add Danish web page
</li
>
1488 <li
>debian-edu-install from
1.528 to
1.530
1490 <li
>Improve preseeding support and documentation
</li
>
1491 </ul
></li
>
1494 <p
>End-user documentation in English is available at
1495 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze/
">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze/
</a
>
1496 - translations to French, Italian, Danish and German are available in
1497 the debian-edu-doc package. (Other languages could use your help!)
</p
>
1499 <p
>If you want to contribute to Debian Edu, please join our
1501 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/
">debian-edu@lists.debian.org
</a
>!
1502 </p
></blockquote
>
1504 <p
>I am very happy to see the fruits of a year of hard work. :)
</p
>
1509 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Helge Tore Høyland
</title>
1510 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Helge_Tore_H_yland.html
</link>
1511 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Helge_Tore_H_yland.html
</guid>
1512 <pubDate>Fri,
22 Feb
2013 08:
10:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
1513 <description><p
>Etter en lang pause og travle uker har jeg endelig klart å få
1514 samlet et nytt intervju med en av folkene i
1515 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>-miljøet.
1516 Denne gang er det Helge Tore Høyland, en mangeårig bidragsyter på
1517 epostlistene og ellers i prosjektet.
</p
>
1519 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
1521 <p
>Eg er IT-konsulent/teknikker hjå eit firma i Steinkjer med navn
1522 <a href=
"http://unoit.no/
">Uno IT
</a
>. Uno IT er eit lite firma som
1523 drifter nettverk og maskiner for små og mellomstore firma
1524 Steinkjer-området. Per dags dato er me
2 ansatte. Min faglege bakgrunn
1525 er Fagbrev som it-teknikker, samt nokre fag innen nettverk- og
1526 server-drift frå HiST og NTNU. Dagleg arbeid består i oppsett av nye
1527 maskiner og hjelp til sluttbrukere, samt oppsett og vedlikehold av eit
1528 vidt spekter av fagsystemer ute hjå kunder. Erfaring med Skolelinux
1529 har eg hatt i forbindelse med drifting av
1530 <a href=
"http://www.bjorkly.no/
">Bjørkly skule
</a
>, ein privat
1531 grunnskule i Namsos-området. I dag har skulen
65 elever,
15 lærere,
1
1532 hovedserver og ca
60 klienter som kjører halvtjukt. Eg har bygd og
1533 driftet systemet sidan summaren
2006.
</p
>
1535 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
1537 <p
>Eg kom i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet via ein artikkel i eit
1538 fagblad, som eg ikkje lenger hugsar namnet på. I og med at eg allereie
1539 hadde pusla med nettverk for ein annan skule, fatta eg straks
1540 interesse for prosjektet.
</p
>
1542 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
1544 <p
>Fordelane med Skolelinux er sentralisert administrasjon og svært
1545 mange gode verktøy «ut av boksen». Veldig kjekt å kunne drifte
60
1546 klientar med berre å «bry» seg med ein server. Levetid for systemets
1547 hardware er og ein veldig fin effekt. I tillegg kjem fordelar som økt
1548 sikkerhet og mindre lisenskostnader. Etter min erfaring er det og
1549 mykje mindre driftskostnader med eit slikt system enn konkurrerande
1550 system, pga enkelhet med sentralisert administrasjon. På grunn av at
1551 Skolelinux er basert på Debian er det òg svært stabilt.
</p
>
1553 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
1555 <p
>Ulemper er mangel på vilje til å følge standarer ute i markedet,
1556 som fører til mangel på støtte til nokre mykje brukte ting. Flash og
1557 Java er typiske eksempel. Sidan Debian satsar på stabilitet framfor å
1558 ha nyeste pakke av eit program, kan ein i nokre tilfeller kome borti
1559 at program vert «for gamle». Det er spesielt nettlesaren som er
1560 utsett. Mangel på vilje til å utvikle pedagogisk programvare, i Noreg,
1561 for «alle» platformer fører òg til noko hovudbry.
</p
>
1563 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
1565 <p
>Til dagleg bruker eg svært mange forskjellige «fri programvare»
1566 program. Firefox, Thunderbird, Freecommander, ImgBurn, Clonezilla,
1567 OCS inventory, Icinga, Skolelinux, SystemRescueCD og mykje meir.
</p
>
1569 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
1570 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
1572 <p
>Strategisk må ein fokusere på at sluttbruker eigentleg ikkje er så
1573 fokusert på at det er fri programvare men at det skal «berre fungere».
1574 Gjer det enkelt å bruker og ikkje minst å administrere. For Skolelinux
1575 sin del må ein få eit betre fokus på overganger. Utbytting av servere
1576 må gå meir automatisk, import og eksport av brukerbase og maskinbase
1577 med meir må kunne gå enkelt og oppgradering til neste versjon må bli
1578 mykje meir automatisk og gjennomtesta. Ein må unngå at ein må sette
1579 opp frå start når ein byter ut ein server eller oppgraderer til neste
1580 versjon. For å få Skolelinux til å bli eit betre alternativ for skular
1581 må ein ha fokus på nettlesaren. Denne må bli «up to date» og støtte
1582 dei protokollar og tillegg som vert brukt av forlag med meir. Etter
1583 kvart som meir og meir blir flytta ut i «skya» vert dette viktigare og
1584 viktigare. Ein kunne ynskje og jobbe for at forlag med fleire tar i
1585 bruk opne standarer, men inntil det skjer, må systemet kunne brukast
1586 mot desse fagsystema.
</p
>
1588 <p
>For meg har prosjektet med Skolelinux vore ein svært artig og
1589 lærerik prosess. Miljøet rundt er ikkje enormt stort, dog stort nok,
1590 men det er svært hjelpevillig og engasjert.
</p
>
1595 <title>A Christmas present for Skolelinux / Debian Edu
</title>
1596 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/A_Christmas_present_for_Skolelinux___Debian_Edu.html
</link>
1597 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/A_Christmas_present_for_Skolelinux___Debian_Edu.html
</guid>
1598 <pubDate>Fri,
28 Dec
2012 09:
20:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
1599 <description><p
>I was happy to discover a few days ago that the
1600 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux / Debian Edu
</a
>
1601 project also this year received a Christmas present from Another
1602 Agency in Trondheim. NOK
1000,- showed up on our donation account
1603 December
24th. I want to express our thanks for this very welcome
1604 present. As the Debian Edu / Skolelinux project is very short on
1605 funding these days, and thus lack the money to do regular developer
1606 gatherings, this donation was most welcome. One developer gathering
1607 cost around NOK
15&nbsp;
000,-, so we need quite a lot more to keep the
1608 development pace we want. Thus, I hope their example this year is
1609 followed by many others. :)
</p
>
1611 <p
>The public list of donors can be found on
1612 <a href=
"http://www.linuxiskolen.no/slxdebianlabs/donations.html
">the
1613 donation page
</a
> for the project, which also contain instructions if
1614 you want to donate to the project.
</p
>
1619 <title>Ledger - double-entry accounting using text based storage format
</title>
1620 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Ledger___double_entry_accounting_using_text_based_storage_format.html
</link>
1621 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Ledger___double_entry_accounting_using_text_based_storage_format.html
</guid>
1622 <pubDate>Tue,
18 Dec
2012 23:
30:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
1623 <description><p
>A few days ago I came across
1624 <a href=
"http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/hledger/
">a blog post from Joey
1625 Hess
</a
> describing
<a href=
"http://ledger-cli.org/
">ledger
</a
> and
1626 hledger, a text based system for double-entry accounting. I found it
1627 interesting, as I am involved with several organizations where
1628 accounting is an issue, and I have not really become too friendly with
1629 the different web based systems we use. I find it hard to find what I
1630 look for in the menus and even harder try to get sensible data out of
1631 the systems. Ledger seem different. The accounting data is kept in
1632 text files that can be stored in a version control system, and there
1634 are at least
<a href=
"https://github.com/ledger/ledger/wiki/Ports
">five
1635 different implementations
</a
> able to read the format. An example
1636 entry look like this, and is simple enough that it will be trivial to
1637 generate entries based on CVS files fetched from the bank:
</p
>
1639 <blockquote
><pre
>
1640 2004-
05-
27 Book Store
1641 Expenses:Books $
20.00
1643 </pre
></blockquote
>
1645 <p
>The concept seemed interesting enough for me to check it out and
1646 look for others using it. I found blog posts from
1647 <a href=
"http://blog.spang.cc/posts/hledger_rocks_my_world/
">Christine
1649 <a href=
"http://bugsplat.info/
2010-
05-
23-keeping-finances-with-ledger.html
">Pete
1651 <a href=
"http://blog.andrewcantino.com/blog/
2010/
11/
06/command-line-accounting-with-ledger-and-reckon/
">Andrew
1652 Cantino
</a
> and
1653 <a href=
"http://blog.iphoting.com/blog/
2012/
11/
29/command-line-double-entry-accounting/
">Ronald
1654 Ip
</a
> describing how they use it, as well as a post from
1655 <a href=
"https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/ledger-cli/r0oWjwbQ9Bo
">Bradley
1656 M. Kuhn
</a
> at the Software Freedom Conservancy. All seemed like good
1657 recommendations fitting my need.
</p
>
1659 <p
>The
<a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/ledger.html
">ledger
</a
>
1660 package is available in Debian Squeeze, while the
1661 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/h/haskell-hledger.html
">hledger
</a
>
1662 package only is available in Debian Sid. As I use Squeeze, ledger
1663 seemed the best choice to get started.
</p
>
1665 <p
>To get some real data to test on, I wrote a
1666 <a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/tools/lodo2ledger
">web scraper
</a
> for
1667 <a href=
"http://www.lodo.no/
">LODO
</a
>, the accounting system used by
1668 the
<a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/
">NUUG
</a
> association, and started to
1669 play with the data set. I
'm not really deeply into accounting, but I
1670 am able to get a simple balance and accounting status for example
1671 using the
"<tt
>ledger balance
</tt
>" command. But I will have to
1672 gather more experience before I know if the ledger way is a good fit
1673 for the organisations I am involved in.
</p
>
1678 <title>Debian Edu interview: Angela Fuß
</title>
1679 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Angela_Fu_.html
</link>
1680 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Angela_Fu_.html
</guid>
1681 <pubDate>Wed,
14 Nov
2012 21:
30:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
1682 <description><p
>Here is another interview with one of the people in the
<a
1683 href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a
>
1684 community. I am running short on people willing to be interviewed, so
1685 if you know about someone I should interview, Please send me an email.
1686 After asking for many months, I finally managed to lure another one of
1687 the people behind the German
1688 "<a href=
"http://wiki.it-zukunft-schule.de/
">IT-Zukunft Schule
</a
>"
1689 project out from maternity leave to conduct an interview. Give a warm
1690 welcome to Angela Fuß. :)
</p
>
1692 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
1694 <p
>I am a
39-year-old woman living in the very north of Germany near
1695 Denmark. I live in a patchwork family with
"my man
" Mike Gabriel, my
1696 two daughters, Mikes daughter and Mikes and my rather newborn son.
1698 <p
>At the moment - because of our little baby - I am spending most of
1699 the day by being a caring and organising mom for all the kids.
1700 Besides that I am really involved into and occupied with several inner
1701 growth processes: New born souls always bring the whole familiar
1702 system into movement and that needs time and focus ;-). We are also
1703 in the middle of buying a house and moving to it.
</p
>
1705 <p
>In
2013 I will work again in my job in a German foundation for
1706 nature conservation. I am doing public relation work there. Besides
1707 that - and that is the connection to Skolelinux / Debian Edu - I am
1708 working in our own school project
"IT-Zukunft Schule
" in North
1709 Germany. I am responsible for the quality assurance, the customer
1710 relationship management and the communication processes in the
1713 <p
>Since
2001 I constantly have been training myself in communication
1714 and leadership. Besides that I am a forester, a landscaping gardener
1715 and a yoga teacher.
</p
>
1717 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
1718 project?
</strong
></p
>
1720 <p
>I fell in love with Mike ;-).
</p
>
1722 <p
>Very soon after getting to know him I was completely enrolled into
1723 Free Software. At this time Mike did IT-services for one newly
1724 founded school in Kiel. Other schools in Kiel needed concepts for
1725 their IT environment. Often when Mike came home from working at the
1726 newly founded school I found myself listening to his complaints about
1727 several points where the communication with the schools head or the
1728 teachers did not work. So we were clear that he would not work for
1729 one more school if we did not set up a structure for communication
1730 between him, the schools head, the teachers, the students and the
1733 <p
>Together with our friend and hardware supplier Andreas Buchholz we
1734 started to get an overview of free software solutions suitable for
1735 schools. One day before Christmas
2010 Mike and I had a date with Kurt
1736 Gramlich in Gütersloh. As Kurt and I are really interested in building
1737 networks of people and in being in communication we dived into
1738 Skolelinux and brought it to the first grammar schools in Northern
1741 <p
>For information about our school project you can read
1742 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Mike_Gabriel.html
">the
1743 interview with Mike Gabriel
</a
>.
</p
>
1745 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
1746 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
1748 <p
>First I have to say: I cannot answer this question technically. My
1749 answer comes rather from a social point of view.
</p
>
1751 <p
>The biggest advantage of Skolelinux / Debian Edu I see is the large
1752 and strong international community of Debian Developers in the
1753 background which is very alive and connected over mailinglists, blogs
1754 and meetings. My constant feeling for the Debian Community is: If
1755 something does not work they will somehow fix it. All is well
1756 ;-). This is of course a user experience. What I also get as a big
1757 advantage of Skolelinux / Debian Edu is that everybody who uses it and
1758 works with it can also contribute to it - that includes students,
1759 teachers, parents...
</p
>
1761 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
1762 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
1764 <p
>I will answer this question relating to the internal structure of
1765 Skolelinux / Debian Edu.
</p
>
1767 <p
>What I see as a major disadvantage is that there is a gap between
1768 the group of developers for Debian Edu and the people who make the
1769 marketing, that means the people that bring Skolelinux to the
1770 schools. There is a lack of communication between these two groups and
1771 I think that does not really work for Skolelinux / Debian Edu.
</p
>
1773 <p
>Further I appreciate that Skolelinux / Debian Edu is known as a
1774 do-ocracy. Nevertheless I keep asking myself if at some points a
1775 democracy or some kind of hierarchical project structure would be good
1776 and helpful. I am also missing some kind of contact between the
1777 Skolelinux / Debian Edu communities in Europe or on an international
1778 level. I think it would be good if there was more sharing between the
1779 different countries using Skolelinux / Debian Edu.
</p
>
1781 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
1783 <p
>On my laptop I am still using an Ubuntu
10.04 with a Gnome Desktop
1784 on. As applications I use Openoffice.org, Gedit, Firefox, Pidgin,
1785 LaTeX and GnuCash. For mails I am using Horde. And I am really fond of
1786 my N900 running with Maemo.
</p
>
1788 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
1789 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
1791 <p
>I am really convinced that in our school project
"IT-Zukunft
1792 Schule
" we have developed (and keep developing) a great way to get
1793 schools to use Free Software. We have written a detailed concept for
1794 that so I cannot explain the whole thing here. But in a nutshell the
1795 strategy has three crucial pillars:
</p
>
1799 <li
>We really take time to get what sort of stories, questions and
1800 concerns the schools head and the teachers have about using different
1801 kinds of IT and we take time to enrol them into Free Software.
</li
>
1803 <li
>Our solution for schools is never just technical. In the centre
1804 are always the people who are going to use the software. From the very
1805 beginning of the planning for a school, we tell the schools head that
1806 they are paying us not only for a technical solution for their school,
1807 they also pay us for leading all the communication processes
1808 needed. If they do not want that, we are not working with them because
1809 we cannot give a guarantee for the quality of our work then.
</li
>
1811 <li
>Another focus lies in the training of teachers and students in
1812 co-administrating the IT-System at their school. They start getting in
1813 contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu community and they get the
1814 offer to become more and more independent from us.
</li
>
1821 <title>Skolelinux noe for Ballangen? (Leserinnlegg til avisen Fremover)
</title>
1822 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_noe_for_Ballangen___Leserinnlegg_til_avisen_Fremover_.html
</link>
1823 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_noe_for_Ballangen___Leserinnlegg_til_avisen_Fremover_.html
</guid>
1824 <pubDate>Sun,
14 Oct
2012 20:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
1825 <description><p
>Tirsdag
2012-
10-
09 sendte jeg følgende leserinnlegg til avisen
1826 <a href=
"http://www.fremover.no/
">Fremover
</a
>, etter å ha vært nordpå
1827 noen dager og lest noen gamle aviser. Publiserer den her i sin helhet
1828 for fremtidig referanse. Fremover publiserer dessverre ikke
1829 leserinnlegg på nett.
</p
>
1832 <p
>To: redaksjon (at) fremover.no
1833 <br
>Subject: Leserinnlegg til Fremover: Skolelinux noe for Ballangen?
</p
>
1835 <p
>Ærede redaktør
</p
>
1837 <p
>I sommer (
2012-
07-
23) hadde Fremover et oppslag om at Narvik
1838 kommune hadde spart mellom
10 og
20 millioner kroner de siste årene på
1839 å bruke Skolelinux på sine skoler. Harstad har også tatt i bruk
1840 Skolelinux på alle sine skoler. Som tidligere Ballangsværing gledet
1841 det meg stort å se at skoleløsningen vi har utviklet siden
2001 tas i
1842 bruk i området der jeg vokste opp, og dermed bidrar til en bedre og
1843 billigere skolehverdag.
</p
>
1845 <p
>Skolelinux er en komplett IT-løsning for elevnettverket på en
1846 skole, med både nettverkstjenester og løsning for elevmaskiner med
1847 pedagogisk programvare, som tillater en å øke levetiden på en
1848 datamaskin i skolen med mange år. En undersøkelse publisert i mars
1849 2012 viste at de
56 norske skolene som har offentliggjort at de bruker
1850 Skolelinux eller annen Linuxutgave hadde
36% større PC-tetthet enn
1851 landsgjennomsnittet, når en ser på tall rapportert til Grunnskolens
1852 Informasjonssystem. I følge Paul Reidar Løsnesløkken, IKT-konsulent i
1853 Nord-Odal, fungerer datamaskiner godt til de er
8 til
10 år gamle.
</p
>
1855 <p
>I høst (
2012-
09-
29) fortalte Fremover hvordan Ballangen kommune har
1856 opparbeidet seg
20 millioner i underskudd og nok havner på Robek-lista
1857 fra nyttår. Kanskje Ballangen også burde ta i bruk Skolelinux for å
1858 spare penger? Hvis kommunen mangler kompetanse lokalt på Linux finnes
1859 det kommersielle selskaper som tilbyr driftstjenester rundt
1860 Skolelinux, og jeg bør vel avsløre at jeg selv er involvert i et av
1861 dem, Skolelinux Drift AS. Kommunen kan dermed få hjelp hvis de ikke
1862 ønsker å bygge opp egen kompetanse.
</p
>
1864 <p
>Vennlig hilsen
1865 <br
>Petter Reinholdtsen
1866 <br
>Fri programvareutvikler
</p
>
1868 <p
>Referanser:
</p
>
1872 <li
><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Linux_skoler_har_h_yere_PC_tetthet_enn_landsgjennomsnittet___pressemelding_fra_FRiSK.html
">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Linux_skoler_har_h_yere_PC_tetthet_enn_landsgjennomsnittet___pressemelding_fra_FRiSK.html
</a
></li
>
1873 <li
><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gladoppslag_om_Skolelinux_i_avisen_Fremover.html
">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gladoppslag_om_Skolelinux_i_avisen_Fremover.html
</a
></li
>
1879 <p
>Innlegget ble så vidt jeg vet trykket i papirutgaven et par dager
1880 senere, men jeg har ikke sett det selv.
</p
>
1885 <title>Trengs flere frivillige til korrektur av den frie norske stavekontrollen
</title>
1886 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Trengs_flere_frivillige_til_korrektur_av_den_frie_norske_stavekontrollen.html
</link>
1887 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Trengs_flere_frivillige_til_korrektur_av_den_frie_norske_stavekontrollen.html
</guid>
1888 <pubDate>Sat,
13 Oct
2012 12:
10:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
1889 <description><p
><a href=
"http://no.speling.org/
">Den frie norske stavekontrollen
</a
>
1890 består av ca.
1,
3 millioner bokmåls- og nynorskord. Det er mange
1891 kilder til ordene, f.eks. den norske ordbanken, norske nett-aviser,
1892 stavekontrollbrukere og korrekturlesere, og endel feil har sneket seg
1893 inn i databasen over ord. For å finne og fikse feilene trengs det
1894 korrekturlesing. Her kommer frivillige inn.
</p
>
1896 <p
>Hvis du vil bidra med korrektur av orddatabasen, kan du melde deg
1897 frivillig som bokmåls- eller nynorskkorrekturleser og få tilsendt en
1898 liten bunke ord på epost hver dag, lese over og sende inn på epost
1899 tilbake til korrekturlesing-systemet. Jo flere som sjekker, jo
1900 raskere kommer vi igjennom hele databasen. Så langt har vi oppdaget
1901 341 bokmålsord og
50 nynorskord som ikke skal vært med i databasen.
1902 Det er nok noen flere. I tillegg har korrekturleserne oppdaget flere
1903 ord som manglet, og fått lagt dem inn i stavekontrollen.
</p
>
1905 <p
>Hvis du vil bidra, følg instruksene på
1906 <a href=
"http://no.speling.org/dokumentasjon.html
">prosjektsidene
</a
>
1908 for nye bidragsytere, og ta kontakt med Håvard eller epostlisten
1909 <a href=
"https://lister.ping.uio.no/mailman/listinfo/i18n-no
">i18n-no
</a
>.
1910 Gode norskkunnskaper er en fordel, og vilje til å sjekke
1911 <a href=
"http://www.nob-ordbok.uio.no/perl/ordbok.cgi
">ordboka
</a
> et
1917 <title>Ny utgave (v2.1) av den frie norske stavekontrollen gitt ut
</title>
1918 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Ny_utgave__v2_1__av_den_frie_norske_stavekontrollen_gitt_ut.html
</link>
1919 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Ny_utgave__v2_1__av_den_frie_norske_stavekontrollen_gitt_ut.html
</guid>
1920 <pubDate>Tue,
2 Oct
2012 09:
20:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
1921 <description><p
>I helga fikk jeg endelig pakket sammen en ny versjon av den norske
1922 stavekontrollen, og gikk ut versjon
2.1 etter at det var gått fire og
1923 et halvt år siden sist. I dag fikk vi sendt ut annonseringen. Her er
1924 det vi sendte ut:
</p
>
1926 <p
>Oslo,
2012-
10-
02</p
>
1928 <p
><strong
>Pressemelding: Ny utgave av norsk stavekontroll med
1929 synonymordliste
</strong
></p
>
1931 <p
>Mer enn fire år etter at forrige utgave av den frie norske
1932 stavekontrollen ble utgitt, er en ny og forbedret versjon klar. Dette er
1933 noe utviklerne er veldig glade for.
</p
>
1935 <p
>Den største endringen er at byggesystemet for stavekontrollen er
1936 skrevet om til å akseptere ord med bindestrek (f.eks. «e-post»). Litt
1937 over
10.000 slike ordformer er lagt til i orddatabasen. I tillegg er
1938 det kommet en del nye ord og rettelser rapportert inn av de frivillige
1939 som gjennomfører korrektur av orddatabasen i prosjektet. For å få
1940 fortgang i dette korrekturarbeidet er det fint med flere frivillige
1941 som kan bidra i prosjektet.
</p
>
1943 <p
><blockquote
>
1944 - En god og fritt tilgjengelig stavekontroll er en viktig byggestein
1945 for å fremme bruken av korrekt norsk språk, sier prosjektdeltager
1946 Petter Reinholdtsen.
1947 </blockquote
></p
>
1949 <p
>Takket være samarbeidet med synonymordlisteprosjektet er
1950 synonymordlista for bokmål tilgjengelig sammen med ordlista for bokmål
1951 og nynorsk. En synonymordliste for nynorsk er også med, men den er på
1952 prøvestadiet og meget liten.
</p
>
1954 <p
>Stavekontrollpakken og synonymordlistene brukes i
1955 LibreOffice/OpenOffice.org, Koffice, Mozilla Thunderbird, Firefox og
1956 en rekke andre programmer, og på både Windows, Mac OS X, Linux og
1959 <p
>Det hele utgis under den frie lisensen GPL og kan fritt lastes ned
1960 fra prosjektsidene på
1961 <a href=
"http://no.speling.org
">no.speling.org
</a
>. Ferdige pakker for
1962 LibreOffice/OpenOffice.org er også tilgjengelige fra samme sted.
</p
>
1964 <p
>Det norske stavekontrollprosjektet er i kontakt med lignende
1965 prosjekter for blant annet å forbedre stavekontrollteknologien, å
1966 utveksle verktøy for vedlikehold av orddatabasen og å få tilgang til
1967 relevante datasett. Et av disse prosjektene er et separat prosjekt ved
1968 Sametinget som er i gang med å utvikle samisk stavekontroll for blant
1969 annet Microsoft Word og OpenOffice.org.
</p
>
1971 <p
>Et søsterprosjekt for å lage grammatikk-kontroll for
1972 LibreOffice/OpenOffice.org er igangsatt, men har ennå ikke kommet
1973 langt nok til å brukes. Frivillige til å bidra i dette prosjektet er
1974 også svært velkomne.
</p
>
1976 <p
><strong
>Kontaktperson
</strong
></p
>
1978 <p
><blockquote
>
1979 Axel Bojer, prosjektdeltager
1980 <br
>E-post: fri_programvare (at) bojer.no
1981 <br
>Tlf: +
47 954 32 417
1982 </blockquote
></p
>
1984 <p
><strong
>Referanser
</strong
></p
>
1988 <li
>Det frie norske stavekontrollprosjektet for bokmål og nynorsk:
1989 <a href=
"http://no.speling.org
">http://no.speling.org
</a
></li
>
1990 <li
>Samiske korrekturverktøy:
1991 <a href=
"http://divvun.no/
">http://divvun.no/
</a
></li
>
1992 <li
>Ordlistene fra Norsk ordbank:
1993 <a href=
"http://www.edd.uio.no/prosjekt/ordbanken/
">http://www.edd.uio.no/prosjekt/ordbanken/
</a
></li
>
1994 <li
>Last ned ordlistene:
1995 <a href=
"http://alioth.debian.org/frs/?group_id=
30577">http://alioth.debian.org/frs/?group_id=
30577</a
>
1996 (PS: no_NO-pack2 for OOo
2.x))
</li
>
1999 <p
><strong
>Fra NEWS-fila i kildekodepakken
</strong
></p
>
2001 <p
>Release
2.1 (
2012-
09-
30)
</p
>
2005 <li
>Switch to new version scheme. Make new version
2.1, not
2.0.11. We do not
2006 release often enough to justify three digits.
</li
>
2007 <li
>Switch build rules to build OOo v2 thesaurus files, as the v1 build rules
2008 no longer work. This require the libmythes-dev package on Debian.
</li
>
2009 <li
>Introduce new Makefile variables hyphendir and thesdir to make it easier to
2010 control where to install these.
</li
>
2011 <li
>Change script used to import from no.speling.org, to load new word
2012 boundaries if at least two people believed the boundaries was correct.
</li
>
2013 <li
>Added word boundaries for several words (around
500 words) using the
2014 updated script.
</li
>
2015 <li
>Imported thesarus for bokmål from synonymer.merg.net.
</li
>
2016 <li
>Rewrote build rules to use = instead of - as combined word marker, thus
2017 allowing words like e-post.
</li
>
2018 <li
>Imported a lot (around
10k words) of new words with dash (-) in them from
2019 no.speling.org now that it is handled by the build system.
</li
>
2025 <title>Debian Edu interview: Giorgio Pioda
</title>
2026 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Giorgio_Pioda.html
</link>
2027 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Giorgio_Pioda.html
</guid>
2028 <pubDate>Mon,
17 Sep
2012 14:
10:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
2029 <description><p
>After a long break in my row of interviews with people in the
2030 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a
>
2031 community, I finally found time to wrap up another. This time it is
2032 Giorgio Pioda, which showed up on the mailing list at the start of
2033 this year, asking questions and inspiring us to improve the first time
2034 administrators experience with Skolelinux. :) The interview was
2035 conduced in May, but I only found time to publish it now.
</p
>
2037 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
2039 <p
>I have a PhD in chemistry but since several years I work as teacher
2040 in secondary (
15-
18 year old students) and tertiary (a kind of
"light
"
2041 university) schools. Five years ago I started to manage a Learning
2042 Management Service server and slowly I got more and more involved with
2043 IT.
3 years ago the graduating schools moved completely to Linux and I
2044 got the head of the IT for this. The experience collected in chemistry
2045 labs computers (for example NMR analysis of protein folding) and in
2046 the IT-courses during university where sufficient to start. Self
2047 training is anyway very important
</p
>
2049 <p
>I live in the Italian speaking part of Switzerland, and the
2050 <a href=
"http://www.spse.ch/
">SPSE school
</a
> (secondary) is a very
2051 special sport school for young people who try to became sport pro (for
2052 all sports, we have dozens of disciplines represented) and we are
2053 recognised by the Olympic Swiss Organisation.
2055 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
2056 project?
</strong
></p
>
2058 <p
>Looking for Linux / Primary Domain Controller (PDC) I found it
2059 already several years ago. But since the system was still not
2060 Kerberized and since our schools relies strongly on laptops I didn
't
2061 use it. I plan to introduce it in the next future, probably for the
2062 next school year, since the squeeze release solved this security
2065 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
2066 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
2068 <p
>Many. First of all there is a strong and living community that is
2069 very generous for help and hints. Chat help is crucial, together with
2070 the mailing list. Second. With Skolelinux you get an already well
2071 engineered platform and you don
't have to start to build up your PDC
2072 and your clients from GNU/scratch; I
've already done this once and I
2073 can tell it, it is hard. Third, since Skolelinux is a standard
2074 platform, it is way easier to educate other IT people and even if the
2075 head IT is sick another one could pick up the task without too much
2078 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
2079 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
2081 <p
>The only real problem I see is that it is a little too less
2082 flexible at client level. Debian stable is rocky and desirable, but
2083 there are many reasons that force for another choice. For example the
2084 need of new drivers for new PC, or the need for a specific OS for some
2085 devices that have specific software packages for another specific
2086 distribution (I have such a case for whiteboards that have only
2087 Ubuntu packages). Thus, I prepared compatibility packages educlient
2088 and eduroaming, hoping not to use them ;-)
</p
>
2090 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
2092 <p
>I have a Debian Stable PDC at school (Kerberos, NIS, NFS) with
2093 mixed Debian and Ubuntu clients. If you think that this triad
2094 combination is exotic... well I discovered right yesterday that
2095 <a href=
"http://moo.nac.uci.edu/~hjm/Perceus-Report.html
">Perceus
</a
>
2096 has the same...
</p
>
2098 <p
>For myself I run Debian wheezy/sid, but this combination is good
2099 only I you have enough competence to fix stuff for yourself, if
2100 something breaks. Daily I use texmacs, gnumeric, a little bit of R
2101 statistics, kmplot, and less frequently OpenOffice.org.
</p
>
2103 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
2104 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
2106 <P
>I think that the only real argument that school managers
"hear
" is
2107 cost reduction. They don
't give too much weight on quality, stability,
2108 just because they are normally not open to change.
</p
>
2110 <p
>Students adapts very quickly to GNU/Linux (and for them being able
2111 to switch between different OS is a plus value); teachers and managers
2112 don
't.
</p
>
2114 <p
>We decided to move to Linux because students at our school have own
2115 laptop and we have the responsibility to keep the laptop ready to use;
2116 we were really unsatisfied with Microsoft since every Monday we had
20
2117 machine to fix for viral infections... With Linux this has been
2118 reduced to zero, since people installs almost only from official
2119 repositories. I think that our special needs brought us to Linux.
2120 Those who don
't have such needs will hardly move to Linux.
</p
>
2125 <title>Gladoppslag om Skolelinux i avisen Fremover
</title>
2126 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gladoppslag_om_Skolelinux_i_avisen_Fremover.html
</link>
2127 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gladoppslag_om_Skolelinux_i_avisen_Fremover.html
</guid>
2128 <pubDate>Wed,
15 Aug
2012 10:
20:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
2129 <description><p
>I sommer hadde avisen
<a href=
"http://www.fremover.no/
">Fremover
</a
>
2130 et flott oppslag om bruken av
2131 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
> på alle skolene
2132 der. Artikkelen var på trykk på side
4 og
5 i papirutgaven
2133 2012-
07-
23, men mangler dessverre i nettutgaven av avisen. Mine
2134 henvendelser til avisen for å få artikkelen på nett har så langt ikke
2135 vært vellykket.
</p
>
2137 <p
>Artikkelen med tittelen
"Narvik kommune bruker gratisprogram i
2138 skolen - Har spart millioner
", forteller om hvordan bruken av
2139 Skolelinux er en stor suksess i Narvik siden det ble tatt i bruk i
2140 2004. Her er noen fine sitater:
</p
>
2143 "- Skolelinux har spart kommunen for store pengesummer, millionbeløp,
2144 som de heller kan bruke på andre ting, sier IKT-konsulent Viggo
2148 <p
>Avisen forteller at de har fått tilgang til beregninger som viser
2149 at Narvik kommune har spart noe mellom
10 og
20 millioner kroner de
2150 siste
8 årene på å bruke Skolelinux, og fortsetter:
</p
>
2154 "Regnestykket tar høyde for sparte kostnader til lisenser som medfølger
2155 de alternative operativsystemene, lavere driftskostnader og lengre
2156 levetid på datautstyret. Totalt har Narvikskolen en maskinpark på
2157 1600 maskiner fordelt på de
11 skolene fra Skjomen i sør til Bjerkvik
2162 <p
>Viggo Fedreheim sier dette om hvor noe av gevinsten kommer fra:
</p
>
2165 "- Vi kan gjenbruke gamle maskiner i skolen som er for dårlig andre
2166 steder i kommunen der de ikke bruker Skolelinux. Levetiden på en
2167 datamaskin blir
3-
5 år lenger med Skolelinux. Vi kaller det for
2168 grønn IT, miljøvennlig IT.
"
2171 <p
>Her er det mulighet for flere kommuner å få et godt IT-system på
2172 skolene, hvis de er villige til å forsøke. De som ikke har kompetanse
2173 innomhus kan kjøpe det fra en av de kommersielle leverandørene av
2174 Skolelinux-tjenester, som
<a href=
"http://www.slxdrift.no/
">Skolelinux
2175 Drift AS
</a
> (der jeg er styremedlem). Komplett liste er tilgjengelig
2177 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Help/ProfessionalHelp
">wikien
</a
>.
</p
>
2179 <p
>Update
2012-
08-
16: Today I was allowed by Fremover to put the PDF I
2180 received from them with a copy of the article on the Internet. It is
2181 <a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/press/
2012-
07-
23-fremover-narvik.pdf
">now
2182 available
</a
> in the Skolelinux press archive.
</p
>
2187 <title>Tips for å bli med i Skolelinux-prosjektet (som faktisk er aktivt)
</title>
2188 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Tips_for___bli_med_i_Skolelinux_prosjektet__som_faktisk_er_aktivt_.html
</link>
2189 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Tips_for___bli_med_i_Skolelinux_prosjektet__som_faktisk_er_aktivt_.html
</guid>
2190 <pubDate>Thu,
19 Jul
2012 20:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
2191 <description><p
>Jeg fikk nettopp spørsmål på epost om Skolelinux-prosjektet lever
2192 fra en som var interessert i å bidra, og måtte jo konstatere at i og
2193 med at spørsmålet ble stilt har prosjektet ikke lyktes med å formidle
2194 sin aktivitet. Her er det jeg svarte:
</p
>
2196 <p
><blockquote
>
2197 <p
>Jada,
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux-prosjektet
</a
>
2198 lever, men det meste av utvikling foregår nå under paraplyen
2199 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/
">Debian Edu
</a
> som er det
2200 internasjonale navnet på prosjektet. Dugnaden i Norge organiseres av
2202 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">Fri programvare i
2203 Skolen
</a
>, og det finnes minst ett selskap som selger kommersiell
2204 support på løsningen (
<a href=
"http://www.slxdrift.no/
">Skolelinux
2205 Drift AS
</a
>, der jeg er styremedlem). Anbefaler at du melder deg på
2207 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/
">debian-edu@lists.debian.org
</a
>
2208 (og debian-edu-announce) og
2209 <a href=
"http://medlem.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">melder deg inn i
2210 foreningen
</a
> for å få beskjed om aktivitet som planlegges. Det
2212 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/Gathering
">utviklersamlinger
2213 i august
</a
> og utover høsten.
</p
>
2215 <p
>Bidra gjerne med å spre ordet om Skolelinux. Det er alt for få som
2216 bidrar til pressedekning, bloggposter, twittermeldinger, etc. :)
</p
>
2218 <p
>Jeg antar du har funnet
2219 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju/
">bloggserien
2220 min med intervjuer
</a
>. Det er antagelig også interessant for deg å
2221 følge med på
<a href=
"http://planet.skolelinux.org/
">Planet
2222 Skolelinux
</a
>.
</p
>
2224 <p
>Hm, jeg burde vel blogge alle disse lenkene slik at de blir enklere
2225 å finne...
</p
>
2226 </blockquote
></p
>
2227 <p
>Herved gjort. :)
</p
>
2232 <title>Debian Edu interview: George Bredberg
</title>
2233 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__George_Bredberg.html
</link>
2234 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__George_Bredberg.html
</guid>
2235 <pubDate>Mon,
9 Jul
2012 00:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
2236 <description><p
>The
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu /
2237 Skolelinux
</a
> project have users all over the globe, but until
2238 recently we have not known about any users in Norway
's neighbour
2239 country Sweden. This changed when George Bredberg showed up in March
2240 this year on the mailing list, asking interesting questions about how
2241 to adjust and scale the just released
2242 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/
2012/
20120311.html
">Debian Edu
2243 Wheezy
</a
> setup to his liking. He granted me an interview, and I am
2244 happy to share his answers with you here.
</p
>
2246 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
2248 <p
>I
'm a
44 year old country guy that have been working
12 years at
2249 the same school as
50% IT-manager and
50% Teacher. My educational
2250 background is fil.kand in history and religious beliefs, an exam as a
2251 "folkhighschool
" teacher, that is, for teaching grownups. In
2252 Norwegian I believe it
's called
"Vuxenupplaring
". I also have a master
2253 in
"Technology and social change
". So I
'm not really a tech guy, I
2254 just like to study how humans and technology interact and that is my
2255 perspective when working with IT.
</p
>
2257 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
2258 project?
</strong
></p
>
2260 I have followed the Skolelinux project for quite some time by
2261 now. Earlier I tested out the K12-LTSP project, which we used for some
2262 time, but I really like the idea of having a distribution aimed to be
2263 a complete solution for schools with necessary tools integrated. When
2264 K12-LTSP abandoned that idea some years ago, I started to look more
2265 seriously into Skolelinux instead.
2267 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
2268 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
2270 The big point of Skolelinux to me is that it is a complete
2271 distribution, ready to install. It has LDAP-support, MS Windows
2272 integration tools and so forth already configured, saving an
2273 administrator a lot of time and headache. We were using another Linux
2274 based thin-client system called Thinlinc, that has served us very
2275 well. But that Skolelinux is based on VNC and LTSP, to me, is better
2276 when it comes to the kind of multimedia used in schools. That is
2277 showing videos from Youtube or educational TV. It is also easier to
2278 mix thin clients with workstations, since the user settings will be the
2279 same. In our VNC-based solution you had to
"beat around the bush
" by
2280 setting up a second, hidden, home-directory for user settings for the
2281 workstations, because they will be different from the ones used on the
2282 thin clients. Skolelinux support for diskless workstations are very
2283 convenient since a school today often need to use a class room
2284 projector showing videos in full screen. That is easily done with a
2285 small integrated media computer running as a diskless workstation. You
2286 have only two installs to update and configure. One for the thin
2287 clients and one for the workstations. Also saving a lot of time. Our
2288 old system was also based on Redhat and CentOS. They are both very
2289 nice distributions, but they are sometimes painfully slow when it
2290 comes to updating multimedia support and multimedia programs (even
2291 such as Gimp), leaving us with a bit
"oldish
" applications. Debian is
2294 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
2295 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
2297 <p
>Debian is a bit too quick when it comes to updating. As an example
2298 we use old HP terminals as thinclients, and two times already this
2299 year (
2012) the updates you get from the repositories has stopped
2300 sound from working with them. It
's a kernel/ALSA issue. So you have
2301 to be more careful properly testing the updates before you run them in
2302 a production environment. This has never happened with CentOS.
</p
>
2304 <p
>I also would like to be able to set my own domain-settings at
2305 install time. In Skolelinux they are kind of hard coded into the
2306 distribution, when it comes to LDAP and at least samba integration.
2307 That is more a cosmetic/translation issue, and not a real problem.
2308 Running MS Windows applications within the Skolelinux environment needs
2309 to be better supported. That is, running them seamlessly via RDP, and
2310 support for single-sign on. That will make the transition to free
2311 software easier, because you can keep the applications you really
2312 need. No support will make it impossible if you work in a school where
2313 some applications can
't be open source. As for us we really need to
2314 run Adobe InDesign in our journalist classes. We run a journalist
2315 education, and is one of the very few non university ones that is ok:d
2316 by Svenska journalistförbundet (Swedish journalist association). Our
2317 education gives the pupils the right of membership there, once they
2318 are done. This is important if you want to get a job.
</p
>
2320 <p
>Adobe InDesign is the program most commonly used in newspapers and
2321 magazines. We used Quark Express before, but they seem to loose there
2322 market to Adobe. The only
"equivalent
" to InDesign in the opensource
2323 world is Scribus, and its not advanced enough. At least not according
2324 to the teacher. I think it would be possible to use it, because they
2325 are not supposed to learn a program, they are supposed to learn how to
2326 edit and compile a newspaper. But politically at our school we are not
2327 there yet. And Scribus lacks a lot of things you find i InDesign.
</p
>
2329 <p
>We used even a windows program for sound editing when it comes to
2330 the radio-journalist part. The year to come we are going to try
2331 Audacity. That software has the same kind of limitations compared to
2332 Adobe Audition, but that teacher is a bit more open minded. We have
2333 tried Ardour also, but that instead is more like a music studio
2334 program, not intended for the kind of editing taking place in a radio
2335 studio. Its way to complex and the GUI is to scattered when you only
2336 want to cut, make pass-overs, add extra channels and normalise. Those
2337 things you can do in Audacity, but its not as easy as in Audition. You
2338 have to do more things manually with envelopes, and that is a bit old
2339 fashion and timewasting. Its also harder to cut and move sound from
2340 one channel to another, which is a thing that you do frequently
2341 because you often find yourself needing to rearrange parts of the
2342 sound file.
</p
>
2344 <p
>So, I am not sure we will succeed in replacing even Audition, but we
2345 will try. The problem is the students have certain expectations when
2346 they start an education towards a profession. So the programs has to
2347 look and feel professional. Good thing with radio, there are many
2348 programs out there, that radio studios use, so its not as standardised
2349 as Newspaper editing. That means, it does not really matter what
2350 program they learn, because once they start working they still have to
2351 learn the program the studio uses, so instead focus has to be to learn
2352 the editing part without to much focus on a specific software.
</p
>
2354 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
2356 <p
>Myself I
'm running Linux Mint, or Ubuntu these days. I use almost
2357 only open source software, and preferably Linux based. When it comes
2358 to most used applications its OpenOffice, and Firefox (of course ;)
2361 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
2362 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
2364 <p
>To get schools to use free software there has to be good open
2365 source software that are windows based, to ease the transition. But
2366 it
's also very important that the multimedia support is working
2367 flawlessly. The problems with Youtube, Twitter, Facebook and whatever
2368 will create problems when it comes to both teachers and
2369 students. Economy are also important for schools, so using thin
2370 clients, as long as they have good multimedia support, is a very good
2371 idea. It
's also important that the open source software works even for
2372 the administration. It
's hard to convince the teachers to stick with
2373 open source, if the principal has to run Windows. It also creates a
2374 problem if some classes has to use Windows for there tasks, since that
2375 will create a difference in
"status
" between classes, so a good
2376 support for running windows applications via the thin client (Linux)
2377 desktop is essential. At least at our school, where we have mixed
2378 level of educations, from high-school to journalist-school.
</p
>
2380 <p
>Update
2012-
07-
09 08:
30: Paul Wise tipped me on IRC about three
2381 useful sources related to Free Software for radio stations: the LWN
2382 article
<a href=
"https://lwn.net/Articles/
481607/
">Radio station
2383 management with Airtime
</a
>,
2384 <a href=
"http://www.sourcefabric.org/en/airtime/
">Airtime
</a
> which
2385 claim to be a Free open source radio automation software and
2386 <a href=
"http://www.rivendellaudio.org/
">Rivendell
</a
> which claim to
2387 be complete radio broadcast automation solution. All of them seem
2388 useful to the aspiring radio producer.
</p
>
2393 <title>Why do schools waste money on IT?
</title>
2394 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Why_do_schools_waste_money_on_IT_.html
</link>
2395 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Why_do_schools_waste_money_on_IT_.html
</guid>
2396 <pubDate>Sun,
8 Jul
2012 09:
40:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
2397 <description><p
>In the Debian Edu / Skolelinux project, we have realised that one
2398 of the major blockers for the project success is the purchasing skills
2399 in schools and municipalities. We provide what the happy users of
2400 Debian Edu / Skolelinux say they need and to a lower cost than the
2401 alternatives, and yet so few schools decide to use our solution. I
2402 was pleased to discover the same observation done by mySociety and Tom
2403 Steinberg in his blog post
2404 "<a href=
"http://www.mysociety.org/
2012/
06/
19/can-you-recognize-the-million-pound-chair/
">Can
2405 you recognize the million pound chair?
</a
>". Read it and weep for the
2406 spending of your tax money.
</p
>
2408 <p
>Of course there are other factors involved as well, like our
2409 projects bad marketing skills and the Linux community fragmentation
2410 causing worry with the people on the outside, so we as a project need
2411 to keep working hard to gain users, but it is a up-hill battle when
2412 public decision makers are unable to understand computer system
2413 purchases.
</p
>
2418 <title>Free Timetabling Software - nice free software
</title>
2419 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Free_Timetabling_Software___nice_free_software.html
</link>
2420 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Free_Timetabling_Software___nice_free_software.html
</guid>
2421 <pubDate>Sat,
7 Jul
2012 09:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
2422 <description><p
>Included in
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu /
2423 Skolelinux
</a
> is a large collection of end user and school specific
2424 software. It is one of the packages not installed by default but
2425 provided in the Debian archive for schools to install if they want to,
2426 is a system to automatically plan the school time table using
2427 information about available teachers, classes and rooms, combined with
2428 the list of required courses and how many hours each topic should
2429 receive. The software is
2431 <a href=
"http://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/
">named FET
</a
>, and it provide a
2432 graphical user interface to input the required information, save the
2433 result in a fairly simple XML format, and generate time tables for
2434 both teachers and students. It is available both for
2435 <a href=
"http://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/download.html
">Linux, MacOSX and
2436 Windows
</a
>.
</p
>
2438 <p
>This is
<a href=
"http://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/features.html
">the
2439 feature list
</a
>, liftet from the project web site:
</p
>
2443 <li
>FET is free software, licensed under the GNU GPL v2 or later.
2444 You can freely use, copy, modify and redistribute it
</li
>
2446 <li
>Localized to en_US (US English, default), ar (Arabic), ca
2447 (Catalan), da (Danish), de (German), el (Greek), es (Spanish), fa
2448 (Persian), fr (French), gl (Galician), he (Hebrew), hu
2449 (Hungarian), id (Indonesian), it (Italian), lt (Lithuanian), mk
2450 (Macedonian), ms (Malay), nl (Dutch), pl (Polish), pt_BR
2451 (Brazilian Portuguese), ro (Romanian), ru (Russian), si (Sinhala),
2452 sk (Slovak), sr (Serbian), tr (Turkish), uk (Ukrainian), uz
2453 (Uzbek) and vi (Vietnamese) (incompletely for some languages)
2456 <li
>Fully automatic generation algorithm, allowing also
2457 semi-automatic or manual allocation
</li
>
2459 <li
>Platform independent implementation, allowing running on
2460 GNU/Linux, Windows, Mac and any system that Qt supports
</li
>
2462 <li
>Flexible modular XML format for the input file, allowing editing
2463 with an XML editor or by hand (besides FET interface)
</li
>
2465 <li
>Import/export from CSV format
</li
>
2467 <li
>The resulted timetables are exported into HTML, XML and CSV
2470 <li
>Flexible students structure, organized into sets: years, groups
2471 and subgroups. FET allows overlapping years and groups and
2472 non-overlapping subgroups. You can even define individual students
2473 (as separate sets)
</li
>
2475 <li
>Each constraint has a weight percentage, from
0.0% to
100.0%
2476 (but some special constraints are allowed to have only
100% weight
2477 percentage)
</li
>
2479 <li
>Limits for the algorithm (all these limits can be increased on
2480 demand, as a custom version, because this would require a bit more
2483 <li
>Maximum total number of hours (periods) per day:
60</li
>
2484 <li
>Maximum number of working days per week:
35</li
>
2485 <li
>Maximum total number of teachers:
6000</li
>
2486 <li
>Maximum total number of sets of students:
30000</li
>
2487 <li
>Maximum total number of subjects:
6000</li
>
2488 <li
>Virtually unlimited number of activity tags
</li
>
2489 <li
>Maximum number of activities:
30000</li
>
2490 <li
>Maximum number of rooms:
6000</li
>
2491 <li
>Maximum number of buildings:
6000</li
>
2492 <li
>Possibility of adding multiple teachers and
2493 students sets for each activity. (it is possible
2494 also to have no teachers or no students sets for an
2495 activity)
</li
>
2496 <li
>Virtually unlimited number of time constraints
</li
>
2497 <li
>Virtually unlimited number of space constraints
</li
>
2498 </ul
></li
>
2500 <li
>A large and flexible palette of time constraints:
2502 <li
>Break periods
</li
>
2503 <li
>For teacher(s):
2505 <li
>Not available periods
</li
>
2506 <li
>Max/min days per week
</li
>
2507 <li
>Max gaps per day/week
</li
>
2508 <li
>Max hours daily/continuously
</li
>
2509 <li
>Min hours daily
</li
>
2510 <li
>Max hours daily/continuously with an activity tag
</li
>
2512 <li
>Respect working in an hourly interval a max number of
2513 days per week
</li
>
2514 </ul
></li
>
2515 <li
>For students (sets):
2517 <li
>Not available periods
</li
>
2518 <li
>Begins early (specify max allowed beginnings at second hour)
</li
>
2519 <li
>Max gaps per day/week
</li
>
2520 <li
>Max hours daily/continuously
</li
>
2521 <li
>Min hours daily
</li
>
2522 <li
>Max hours daily/continuously with an activity tag
</li
>
2524 <li
>Respect working in an hourly interval a max number of
2525 days per week
</li
>
2526 </ul
></li
>
2527 <li
>For an activity or a set of activities/subactivities:
2529 <li
>A single preferred starting time
</li
>
2530 <li
>A set of preferred starting times
</li
>
2531 <li
>A set of preferred time slots
</li
>
2532 <li
>Min/max days between them
</li
>
2533 <li
>End(s) students day
</li
>
2534 <li
>Same starting time/day/hour
</li
>
2535 <li
>Occupy max time slots from selection (a complex and
2536 flexible constraint, useful in many situations)
</li
>
2537 <li
>Consecutive, ordered, grouped (for
2 or
3 (sub)activities)
</li
>
2538 <li
>Not overlapping
</li
>
2539 <li
>Max simultaneous in selected time slots
</li
>
2540 <li
>Min gaps between a set of (sub)activities
</li
>
2541 </ul
></li
>
2542 </ul
></li
>
2544 <li
>A large and flexible palette of space constraints:
2546 <li
>Room not available periods
</li
>
2547 <li
>For teacher(s):
2549 <li
>Home room(s)
</li
>
2550 <li
>Max building changes per day/week
</li
>
2551 <li
>Min gaps between building changes
</li
>
2555 <li
>For students (sets):
2557 <li
>Home room(s)
</li
>
2558 <li
>Max building changes per day/week
</li
>
2559 <li
>Min gaps between building changes
</li
>
2562 <li
>Preferred room(s):
2564 <li
>For a subject
</li
>
2565 <li
>For an activity tag
</li
>
2566 <li
>For a subject and an activity tag
</li
>
2567 <li
>Individually for a (sub)activity
</li
>
2571 <li
>For a set of activities:
2573 <li
>Occupy a maximum number of different rooms
</li
>
2578 </ul
></p
>
2580 <p
>I have not used it myself, as I am not involved in time table
2581 planning at a school, but it seem to work fine when I test it. If you
2582 need to set up your schools time table, and is tired of doing it
2583 manually, check it out.
2585 A quick summary on how to use it can be found in
2586 <a href=
"http://marvelsoft.co.in/wp/
2012/
03/generate-timetable-for-state-cbse-icse-igcse-schools-free/
">a
2587 blog post from MarvelSoft
</a
>. If you find FET useful, please provide
2588 a recipe for the Debian Edu project in the
2589 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu#Howtos
">Debian Edu HowTo
2590 section
</a
>.
</p
>
2595 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Markus Gamenius
</title>
2596 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Markus_Gamenius.html
</link>
2597 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Markus_Gamenius.html
</guid>
2598 <pubDate>Sat,
30 Jun
2012 12:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
2599 <description><p
>Tidligere leder av
2600 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no
">foreningen som
2601 organiserer Skolelinux-dugnaden
</a
>, Markus Gamenius , har i vår vært
2603 <a href=
"http://www.dn.no/privatokonomi/article2345489.ece
">debattert
2604 skattepolitikk
</a
>, og det fikk meg til å høre om han kunne lokkes til
2605 å fortelle om hans inntrykk nå, etter at han ble lokket bort fra
2606 Linux- og
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>-verden
2607 for å overta familiebedriften. Her har vi hans betraktninger i dag,
2608 noen måneder etter at
2609 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/
2012/
20120311.html
">Skolelinux
2610 Squeeze
</a
>-utgaven ble gitt ut.
</p
>
2612 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
2614 <p
>Jeg heter Markus Gamenius og er
40 år. Utdannet biolog med ymse
2615 fag på siden. Har jobbet som lærer der jeg var driftsansvarlig på
2616 Ulsrud VGS i Oslo. Senere eide og jobbet jeg flere år i Linuxlabs AS,
2617 som jeg solgte til Redpill Linpro AS (den gangen Linpro AS). I dag
2618 jobber jeg med ulike investeringer, hovedsaklig i eiendom, men også i
2619 en del ulike IT-relaterte bedrifter.
</p
>
2621 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
2623 <p
>Fruen og jeg dro på en lengre seiltur i
2000, der jeg måtte ha
"noe
2624 å gjøre
" under hjemturen over Atlanteren. Jeg kjøpte et par bøker om
2625 Linux i en bokhandel i New York og ble veldig fascinert. Etter
2626 hjemkomsten begynte jeg å jobbe på Ulsrud VGS, som naturfagslærer, men
2627 som IT-interessert ble jeg fort en del av den nye IT-satsningen som
2628 skulle løfte Ulsrud og gi skolen en bedre rykte. Vi hadde ganske
2629 mange maskiner, som gikk på Win98 og to servere som ble oppgradert til
2630 Win2000. Systemene var ustabil og dårlige. På leting etter noe
2631 bedre, uten å knekke ryggen økonomisk, kom jeg over
"Linux i Skolen
"
2632 og Skolelinux. Jeg tok kontakt med miljøet og en gjeng møtte opp på
2633 skolen, der vi gjorde en liten testinstallasjon. Etter et par år var
2634 ryggraden på skolen Linux (Skolelinux) og vi hadde flere hundre
2635 maskiner, både tynne klienter (gamle og nye), bærbare (Debian) og noen
2636 stasjonære (Win2000). På et tidspunkt var Ulsrud den råeste IT-skolen
2637 og det irriterte skolesjefen i Oslo, da de satset hardt på
2640 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
2642 <p
>Det som gjorde at vi fikk inn Skolelinux var ene og alene
2643 økonomiske. Det faktum at vi slapp å kjøpe masse nye lisenser og at
2644 vi kunne bruke gammel hardware. Alt i alt gjorde dette at vi sparte
2645 mye, men i stede for å bruke mindre på IT brukte vi det vi sparte på å
2646 skaffe mer hardware og på den måten gi det beste tilbudet i landet til
2647 våre elever. For oss som driftet var det himmel å ha et system som
2648 gikk å administrere sentralt og effektivt. Det var heller ikke så
2649 dumt at vi kunne
"låse
" maskinene mer effektivt enn vi kunne med
2650 Microsoft Windows, slik at vi slapp mye feil og problemer som ble
2651 forårsaket av
"kreative
" elever.
</p
>
2653 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
2655 <p
>Det vi slet med var mangelen av en del programmer lærerne ville ha.
2656 Husker ikke alle, men det var et knippe med pedagogiske programmer de
2657 ikke fikk. I dag tror jeg det problemet er langt mindre da det meste
2658 av disse kjøres gjennom nettleseren.
</p
>
2660 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
2662 <p
>Jeg bruker mye Apple i dag og er ikke så stolt av det, men jeg har
2663 både OpenOffice, Firefox og en del andre programmer på den bærbare.
2664 Firefox brukes mest av disse. På Apple-serveren hjemme bruker jeg
2665 HandBrake mye, og jeg har installert OpenWRT på flere av
2666 basestasjonene både hjemme og på jobben. I tillegg til det har jeg i
2667 flere år finansiert et prosjekt som heter
2668 <a href=
"http://www.found.no/
">Found IT
</a
>. Dette er et prosjekt der
2669 vi lager et rammeverk for søk, der alt vi bruker fri programvare. Det
2670 er Alex Brasetvik som er daglig leder i Found IT.
</p
>
2672 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
2673 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
2675 <p
>Når det gjelder IT og skole er fortsatt økonomi veldig viktig. Så
2676 man må oppfylle minimumskravene (ikke være best, men bra nok) og selge
2677 seg inn på hvor mye man sparer. Det betyr selvsagt at man sparer på
2678 lisenser, men også på driftsinnsats. Men nå når jeg ikke er en aktiv
2679 del av miljøet lenger hører jeg nesten ingen ting om fri programvare.
2680 Jeg stiller meg da spørsmålet om det har blitt stille rundt miljøet,
2681 eller om jeg kun så det tydeligere før når jeg var aktiv? Uansett er
2682 det for stille rundt Skolelinux-prosjektet nå.
</p
>
2687 <title>Debian Edu interview: José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez
</title>
2688 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Jos__Luis_Redrejo_Rodr_guez.html
</link>
2689 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Jos__Luis_Redrejo_Rodr_guez.html
</guid>
2690 <pubDate>Tue,
26 Jun
2012 08:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
2691 <description><p
>I
've been too busy at home, but finally I found time to wrap up
2692 another interview with the people behind
2693 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a
>.
2694 This time we get to know José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez, one of our great
2695 helpers from Spain. His effort was the reason we added support for
2696 several desktop types (KDE, Gnome and most recently LXDE) in Debian
2697 Edu, and have all of these available in the recently published
2698 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/
2012/
20120311.html
">Debian Edu
2699 Squeeze
</a
> version.
</p
>
2701 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
2703 <p
>I
'm a father, teacher and engineer who is working for the Education
2704 ministry of the Region of Extremadura (Spain) in the implementation of
2705 ICT in schools
</p
>
2707 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
2708 project?
</strong
></p
>
2710 <p
>At
2006, I verified that both, we in Extremadura and Skolelinux
2711 project, had been working in parallel for some years, doing very
2712 similar things, using very similar tools and with similar targets, so
2713 I decided it was time to join forces as much as possible.
</p
>
2715 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
2716 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
2718 <p
>A community of highly skilled experts working together, with a
2719 really open schema of collaboration and work. I really love the
2720 concepts of Do-ocracy and Merit-ocracy and the way these concepts are
2721 been used everyday inside Debian Edu.
</p
>
2723 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
2724 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
2726 <p
>Sometimes the differences in the implementations, laws or
2727 economical and technical resources in the different countries don
't
2728 allow us to agree in the same solution for all of us, and several
2729 approaches are needed, what is a waste of effort. Also, there is a
2730 lack of more man power to be able to follow the fast evolution of the
2731 technologies in school.
</p
>
2733 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
2735 <p
>Debian, of course, and due to my kind of job I am most of my time
2736 between Iceweasel,
<a href=
"http://www.geany.org/
">Geany
</a
> and
2737 <a href=
"http://www.ohloh.net/p/gnome-terminator
">Terminator
</a
>.
</p
>
2739 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
2740 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
2742 <p
>I think there is not a single strategy because there are very
2743 different scenarios: schools with mixed proprietary and free
2744 environments, schools using only workstations, other schools using
2745 laptops, netbooks, tablets, interactive white-boards, etc.
</p
>
2747 <p
>Also the range of ages of the students is very broad and you can
2748 not use the same solutions for primary schools and secondary or even
2749 universities. So different strategies are needed.
</p
>
2751 <p
>But, looking at these differences, and looking back to the things
2752 we
've done and implemented, and the places were we have spent most of
2753 our forces, I think we should focus as much as possible in free
2754 multi-platform environments, using only standards tools, and moving
2755 more and more to Internet or network solutions that could be deployed
2756 using wireless. I think we
'll see more and more personal devices in
2757 the schools, devices the students and teachers will take home with
2758 them, so the solutions must be able to be taken at home and continue
2759 working there.
</p
>
2764 <title>Debian Edu - some ideas for the future versions
</title>
2765 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu___some_ideas_for_the_future_versions.html
</link>
2766 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu___some_ideas_for_the_future_versions.html
</guid>
2767 <pubDate>Mon,
11 Jun
2012 14:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
2768 <description><p
>During my work on
2769 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/
2012/
20120311.nb.html
">Debian Edu
2770 based on Squeeze
</a
>, I came across some issues that should be
2771 addressed in the Wheezy release. I finally found time to wrap up my
2772 notes and provide quick summary of what I found, with a bit
2773 explanation.
</p
>
2777 <li
>We need to rewrite our package installation framework, as tasksel
2778 changed from using tasksel tasks to using meta packages (aka packages
2779 with dependencies like our education-* packages), and our installation
2780 system depend on tasksel tasks in
2781 /usr/share/tasksel/debian-edu-tasks.desc for package
2782 installation.
</li
>
2784 <li
>Enable Kerberos login for more services. Now with the Kerberos
2785 foundation in place, we should use it to get single sign on with more
2786 services, and avoiding unneeded password / login questions. We should
2787 at least try to enable it for these services:
2790 <li
>CUPS for admins to add/configure printers and users when using
2792 <li
>Nagios for admins checking the system status.
</li
>
2793 <li
>GOsa for admins updating LDAP and users changing their passwords.
</li
>
2794 <li
>LDAP for admins updating LDAP.
</li
>
2795 <li
>Squid for users when exam mode / filtering is active.
</li
>
2796 <li
>ssh for admins and users to save a password prompt.
</li
>
2798 </ul
></li
>
2800 <li
>When we move GOsa to use Kerberos instead of LDAP bind to
2801 authenticate users, we should try to block or at least limit access to
2802 use LDAP bind for authentication, to ensure Kerberos is used when it
2803 is intended, and nothing fall back to using the less safe LDAP bind
</li
>
2805 <li
>Merge debian-edu-config and debian-edu-install. The split made
2806 sense when d-e-install did a lot more, but these days it is just an
2807 inconvenience when we update the debconf preseeding values.
</li
>
2809 <li
>Fix partman-auto to allow us to abort the installation before
2810 touching the disk if the disk is too small. This is
2811 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
653305">BTS report #
653305</a
> and the
2812 d-i developers are fine with the patch and someone just need to apply
2813 it and upload. After this is done we need to adjust
2814 debian-edu-install to use this new hook.
</li
>
2816 <li
>Adjust to new LTSP framework (boot time config instead of install
2817 time config). LTSP changed its design, and our hooks to install
2818 packages and update the configuration is most likely not going to work
2821 <li
>Consider switching to NBD instead of NFS for LTSP root, to allow
2822 the Kernel to cache files in its normal file cache, possibly speeding
2823 up KDE login on slow networks.
</li
>
2825 <li
>Make it possible to create expired user passwords that need to
2826 change on first login. This is useful when handing out password on
2827 paper, to make sure only the user know the password. This require
2828 fixes to the PAM handling of kdm and gdm.
</li
>
2830 <li
>Make GUI for adding new machines automatically from sitesummary.
2831 The current command line script is not very friendly to people most
2832 familiar with GUIs. This should probably be integrated into GOsa to
2833 have it available where the admin will be looking for it..
</li
>
2835 <li
>We should find way for Nagios to check that the DHCP service
2836 actually is working (as in handling out IP addresses). None of the
2837 Nagios checks I have found so far have been working for me.
</li
>
2839 <li
>We should switch from libpam-nss-ldapd to sssd for all profiles
2840 using LDAP, and not only on for roaming workstations, to have less
2841 packages to configure and consistent setup across all profiles.
</li
>
2843 <li
>We should configure Kerberos to update LDAP and Samba password
2844 when changing password using the Kerberos protocol. The hook was
2845 requested in
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
588968">BTS report
2846 #
588968</a
> and is now available in Wheezy. We might need to write a
2847 MIT Kerberos plugin in C to get this.
</li
>
2849 <li
>We should clean up the set of applications installed by default.
2852 <li
>reduce the number of chemistry visualisers
</li
>
2853 <li
>consider dropping xpaint
</li
>
2854 <li
>and probably more?
</li
>
2855 </ul
></li
>
2857 <li
>Some hardware need external firmware to work properly. This is
2858 mostly the case for WiFi network cards, but there are some other
2859 examples too. For popular laptops to work out of the box, such
2860 firmware need to be installed from non-free, and we should provide
2861 some GUI to do this. Ubuntu already have this implemented, and we
2862 could consider using their packages. At the moment we have some
2863 command line script to do this (one for the running system, another
2864 for the LTSP chroot).
</li
>
2867 <li
>In Squeeze, we provide KDE, Gnome and LXDE as desktop options. We
2868 should extend the list to Xfce and Sugar, and preferably find a way to
2869 install several and allow the admin or the user to select which one to
2872 <li
>The golearn tool from the goplay package make it easy to check out
2873 interesting educational packages. We should work on the package
2874 tagging in Debian to ensure it represent all the useful educational
2875 packages, and extend the tool to allow it to use packagekit to install
2876 new applications with a simple mouse click.
</li
>
2878 <li
>The Squeeze version got half a exam solution already in place,
2879 with the introduction of iptable based network blocking, but for it to
2880 be a complete exam solution the Squid proxy need to enable
2881 filtering/blocking as well when the exam mode is enabled. We should
2882 implement a way to easily enable this for the schools that want it,
2883 instead of the
"it is documented
" method of today.
</li
>
2885 <li
>A feature used in several schools is the ability for a teacher to
2886 "take over
" the desktop of individual or all computers in the room.
2887 There are at least three implementations,
2888 <a href=
"italc.sourceforge.net/
">italc
</a
>,
2889 <a href=
"http://www.itais.net/help/en/
">controlaula
</a
> og
2890 <a href=
"http://www.epoptes.org/
">epoptes
</a
> and we should pick one of
2891 them and make it trivial to set it up in a school. The challenges is
2892 how to distribute crypto keys and how to group computers in one room
2893 and how to set up which machine/user can control the machines in a
2894 given room.
</li
>
2896 <li
>Tablets and surf boards are getting more and more popular, and we
2897 should look into providing a good solution for integrating these into
2898 the Debian Edu network. Not quite sure how. Perhaps we should
2899 provide a installation profile with better touch screen support for
2900 them, or add some sync services to allow them to exchange
2901 configuration and data with the central server. This should be
2902 investigated.
</li
>
2904 </ul
></p
>
2906 <p
>I guess we will discover more as we continue to work on the Wheezy
2912 <title>Debian Edu interview: Mike Gabriel
</title>
2913 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Mike_Gabriel.html
</link>
2914 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Mike_Gabriel.html
</guid>
2915 <pubDate>Sat,
2 Jun
2012 15:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
2916 <description><p
>Back in
2010, Mike Gabriel showed up on the
2917 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a
>
2918 mailing list. He quickly proved to be a valuable developer, and
2919 thanks to his tireless effort we now have Kerberos integrated into the
2920 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/
2012/
20120311.html
">Debian Edu
2921 Squeeze
</a
> version.
</p
>
2923 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
2925 <p
>My name is Mike Gabriel, I am
38 years old and live near Kiel,
2926 Schleswig-Holstein, Germany. I live together with a wonderful partner
2927 (Angela Fuß) and two own children and two bonus children (contributed
2928 by Angela).
</p
>
2930 <p
>During the day I am part-time employed as a system administrator
2931 and part-time working as an IT consultant. The consultancy work
2932 touches free software topics wherever and whenever possible. During
2933 the nights I am a free software developer. In the gaps I also train in
2934 becoming an osteopath.
</p
>
2936 <p
>Starting in
2010 we (Andreas Buchholz, Angela Fuß, Mike Gabriel)
2937 have set up a free software project in the area of Kiel that aims at
2938 introducing free software into schools. The project
's name is
2939 "IT-Zukunft Schule
" (IT future for schools). The project links IT
2940 skills with communication skills.
</p
>
2942 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
2943 project?
</strong
></p
>
2945 <p
>While preparing our own customised Linux distribution for
2946 "IT-Zukunft Schule
" we were repeatedly asked if we really wanted to
2947 reinvent the wheel. What schools really need is already available,
2948 people said. From this impulse we started evaluating other Linux
2949 distributions that target being used for school networks.
</p
>
2951 <p
>At the end we short-listed two approaches and compared them: a
2952 commercial Linux distribution developed by a company in Bremen,
2953 Germany, and Skolelinux / Debian Edu. Between
12/
2010 and
03/
2011 we
2954 went to several events and met people being responsible for marketing
2955 and development of either of the distributions. Skolelinux / Debian
2956 Edu was by far much more convincing compared to the other product that
2957 got short-listed beforehand--across the full spectrum. What was most
2958 attractive for me personally: the perspective of collaboration within
2959 the developmental branch of the Debian Edu project itself.
</p
>
2961 <p
>In parallel with this, we talked to many local and not-so-local
2962 people. People teaching at schools, headmasters, politicians, data
2963 protection experts, other IT professionals.
</p
>
2965 <p
>We came to two conclusions:
</p
>
2967 <p
>First, a technical conclusion: What schools need is available in
2968 bits and pieces here and there, and none of the solutions really fit
2969 by
100%. Any school we have seen has a very individual IT setup
2970 whereas most of each school
's requirements could mapped by a standard
2971 IT solution. The requirement to this IT solution is flexibility and
2972 customisability, so that individual adaptations here and there are
2973 possible. In terms of re-distributing and rolling out such a
2974 standardised IT system for schools (a system that is still to some
2975 degree customisable) there is still a lot of work to do here
2976 locally. Debian Edu / Skolelinux has been our choice as the starting
2979 <p
>Second, a holistic conclusion: What schools need does not exist at
2980 all (or we missed it so far). There are several technical solutions
2981 for handling IT at schools that tend to make a good impression. What
2982 has been missing completely here in Germany, though, is the enrolment
2983 of people into using IT and teaching with IT.
"IT-Zukunft Schule
"
2984 tries to provide an approach for this.
</p
>
2986 <p
>Only some schools have some sort of a media concept which explains,
2987 defines and gives guidance on how to use IT in class. Most schools in
2988 Northern Germany do not have an IT service provider, the school
's IT
2989 equipment is managed by one or (if the school is lucky) two (admin)
2990 teachers, most of the workload these admin teachers get done in there
2991 spare time.
</p
>
2993 <p
>We were surprised that only a very few admin teachers were
2994 networked with colleagues from other schools. Basically, every school
2995 here around has its individual approach of providing IT equipment to
2996 teachers and students and the exchange of ideas has been quasi
2997 non-existent until
2010/
2011.
</p
>
2999 <p
>Quite some (non-admin) teachers try to avoid using IT technology in
3000 class as a learning medium completely. Several reasons for this
3001 avoidance do exist.
</p
>
3003 <p
>We discovered that no-one has ever taken a closer look at this
3004 social part of IT management in schools, so far. On our quest journey
3005 for a technical IT solution for schools, we discussed this issue with
3006 several teachers, headmasters, politicians, other IT professionals and
3007 they all confirmed: a holistic approach of considering IT management
3008 at schools, an approach that includes the people in place, will be new
3009 and probably a gain for all.
</p
>
3011 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
3012 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
3014 <p
>There is a list of advantages: international context, openness to
3015 any kind of contributions, do-ocracy policy, the closeness to Debian,
3016 the different installation scenarios possible (from stand-alone
3017 workstation to complex multi-server sites), the transparency within
3018 project communication, honest communication within the group of
3019 developers, etc.
</p
>
3021 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
3022 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
3024 <p
>Every coin has two sides:
</p
>
3026 <p
>Technically:
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
311188">BTS issue
3027 #
311188</a
>, tricky upgradability of a Debian Edu main server, network
3028 client installations on top of a plain vanilla Debian installation
3029 should become possible sometime in the near future, one could think
3030 about splitting the very complex package debian-edu-config into
3031 several portions (to make it easier for new developers to
3032 contribute).
</p
>
3034 <p
>Another issue I see is that we (as Debian Edu developers) should
3035 find out more about the network of people who do the marketing for
3036 Debian Edu / Skolelinux. There is a very active group in Germany
3037 promoting Skolelinux on the bigger Linux Days within Germany. Are
3038 there other groups like that in other countries? How can we bring
3039 these marketing people together (marketing group A with group B and
3040 all of them with the group of Debian Edu developers)? During the last
3041 meeting of the German Skolelinux group, I got the impression of people
3042 there being rather disconnected from the development department of
3043 Debian Edu / Skolelinux.
</p
>
3045 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
3047 <p
>For my daily business, I do not use commercial software at all.
</p
>
3049 <p
>For normal stuff I use Iceweasel/Firefox, Libreoffice.org. For
3050 serious text writing I prefer LaTeX. I use gimp, inkscape, scribus for
3051 more artistic tasks. I run virtual machines in KVM and Virtualbox.
</p
>
3053 <p
>I am one of the upstream developers of X2Go. In
2010 I started the
3054 development of a Python based X2Go Client, called PyHoca-GUI.
3055 PyHoca-GUI has brought forth a Python X2Go Client API that currently
3056 is being integrated in Ubuntu
's software center.
</p
>
3058 <p
>For communications I have my own Kolab server running using Horde
3059 as web-based groupware client. For IRC I love to use irssi, for Jabber
3060 I have several clients that I use, mostly pidgin, though. I am also
3061 the Debian maintainer of Coccinella, a Jabber-based interactive
3062 whiteboard.
</p
>
3064 <p
>My favourite terminal emulator is KDE
's Yakuake.
</p
>
3066 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
3067 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
3069 <p
>Communicate, communicate, communicate. Enrol people, enrol people,
3070 enrol people.
</p
>
3075 <title>Debian Edu interview: Ralf Gesellensetter
</title>
3076 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Ralf_Gesellensetter.html
</link>
3077 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Ralf_Gesellensetter.html
</guid>
3078 <pubDate>Sun,
27 May
2012 17:
15:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
3079 <description><p
>In
2003, a German teacher showed up on the
3080 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a
>
3081 mailing list with interesting problems and reports proving he setting
3082 up Linux for a (for us at the time) lot of pupils. His name was Ralf
3083 Gesellensetter, and he has been an important tester and contributor
3084 since then, helping to make sure the
3085 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/
2012/
20120311.html
">Debian Edu
3086 Squeeze
</a
> release became as good as it is..
</p
>
3088 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
3090 <p
>I am a teacher from Germany, and my subjects are Geography,
3091 Mathematics, and Computer Science (
"Informatik
"). During the past
12
3092 years (since
2000), I have been working for a comprehensive (and soon,
3093 also inclusive) school leading to all kind of general levels, such as
3094 O- or A-level (
"Abitur
"). For quite as long, I
've been taking care of
3095 our computer network.
</p
>
3097 <p
>Now, in my early
40s, I enjoy the privilege of spending a lot of my
3098 spare time together with my wife, our son (
3 years) and our daughter
3099 (
4 months).
</p
>
3101 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
3102 project?
</strong
></p
>
3104 <p
>We had tried different Linux based school servers, when members of
3105 my local Linux User Group (LUG OWL) detected Skolelinux. I remember
3106 very well, being part of a party celebrating the Linux New Media Award
3107 (
"Best Newcomer Distribution
", also nominated: Ubuntu) that was given
3108 to Skolelinux at Linux World Exposition in Frankfurt,
2005 (IIRC). Few
3109 months later, I had the chance to join a developer meeting in Ulsrud
3110 (Oslo) and to hand out the award to Knut Yrvin and others. For more
3111 than
7 years, Skolelinux is part of our schools infrastructure, namely
3112 our main server (tjener), one LTSP (today without thin clients), and
3113 approximately
50 work stations. Most of these have the option to boot a
3114 locally installed Skolelinux image. As a consequence, I joined quite
3115 a few events dealing with free software or Linux, and met many Debian
3116 (Edu) developers. All of them seemed quite nice and competent to me,
3117 one more reason to stick to Skolelinux.
</p
>
3119 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
3120 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
3122 <p
>Debian driven, you are given all the advantages of a community
3123 project including well maintained updates. Once, you are familiar with
3124 the network layout, you can easily roll out an entire educational
3125 computer infrastructure, from just one installation media. As only
3126 free software (FOSS) is used, that supports even elderly hardware,
3127 up-sizing your IT equipment is only limited by space (i.e. available
3128 labs). Especially if you run a LTSP thin client server, your
3129 administration costs tend towards zero.
</p
>
3131 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
3132 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
3134 <p
>While Debian
's stability has loads of advantages for servers, this
3135 might be different in some cases for clients: Schools with unlimited
3136 budget might buy new hardware with components that are not yet
3137 supported by Debian stable, or wish to use more recent versions of
3138 office packages or desktop environments. These schools have the
3139 option to run Debian testing or other distributions - if they have the
3140 capacity to do so. Another issue is that Debian release cycles
3141 include a wide range of changes; therefor a high percentage of human
3142 power seems to be absorbed by just keeping the features of Skolelinux
3143 within the new setting of the version to come. During this process,
3144 the cogs of Debian Edu are getting more and more professional,
3145 i.e. harder to understand for novices.
</p
>
3147 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
3149 <p
>LibreOffice, Wikipedia, Openstreetmap, Iceweasel (Mozilla Firefox),
3150 KMail, Gimp, Inkscape - and of course the Linux Kernel (not only on
3151 PC, Laptop, Mobile, but also our SAT receiver)
</p
>
3153 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
3154 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
3158 <li
>Support computer science as regular subject in schools to make
3159 people really
"own
" their hardware, to make them understand the
3160 difference between proprietary software products, and free software
3161 developing.
</li
>
3163 <li
>Make budget baskets corresponding: In Germany
's public schools
3164 there are more or less fixed budgets for IT equipment (including
3165 licenses), so schools won
't benefit from any savings here. This
3166 privilege is left to private schools which have consequently a large
3167 share among German Skolelinux schools.
</li
>
3169 <li
>Get free software in the seminars where would-be teachers are
3170 trained. In many cases, teachers
' software customs are respected by
3171 decision makers rather than the expertise of any IT experts.
</li
>
3173 <li
>Don
't limit ourself to free software run natively. Everybody uses
3174 free software or free licenses (for instance Wikipedia), and this
3175 general concept should get expanded to free educational content to be
3176 shared world wide (school books e.g.).
</li
>
3178 <li
>Make clear where ever you can that the market share of free (libre)
3179 office suites is much above
20 p.c. today, and that you pupils don
't
3180 need to know the
"ribbon menu
" in order to get employed.
</li
>
3182 <li
>Talk about the difference between freeware and free software.
</li
>
3184 <li
>Spread free software, or even collections of portable free apps
3185 for USB pen drives. Endorse students to get a legal copy of
3186 Libreoffice rather than accepting them to use illegal serials. And
3187 keep sending documents in ODF formats.
</li
>
3189 </ol
></p
>
3194 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Alf Tonny Bätz
</title>
3195 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Alf_Tonny_B_tz.html
</link>
3196 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Alf_Tonny_B_tz.html
</guid>
3197 <pubDate>Sun,
20 May
2012 11:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
3198 <description><p
><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux-prosjektets
</a
>
3199 musiker og mannen bak
3200 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Manuals/Rosegarden/
">opplæringsdokumentene
3201 i Rosegarden
</a
>
3202 (
<a href=
"http://maintainer.skolelinux.org/debian-edu-doc/nb/rosegarden-manual.html
">norsk
3203 utgave
</a
>) for musikklærere, Alf Tonny Bätz, er neste mann ut i min
3204 intervjurunde av folkene bak Skolelinux-løsningen. Jeg har kjent Alf
3205 Tonny siden vi møttes som barn på påskefjellet i Ofoten, og ble
3206 gledelig overrasket da han dukket opp i Skolelinux-prosjektet etter å
3207 ikke ha sett noe til ham på mange år.
</p
>
3209 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
3211 <p
>Jeg er utdannet kokk av yrke, og har utøvet yrket i
12 år. Men
3212 etter at ryggen sa takk før seg, studerte jeg nettverksadministrasjon
3213 ved Næringsakademiet i Bergen årene
2008-
2009 slik at jeg kunne
3214 forfølge en av mine største interesser - data. Til daglig jobber jeg
3215 ved
<a href=
"http://www.narvikskolen.no/parken/
">Parken
3216 ungdomsskole
</a
> med å drifte skolens PC-er. Har også litt
3217 musikkundervisning.
</p
>
3219 <p
>Mitt mål er å bevisstgjøre musikklærene mulighetene med de frie
3220 programmene som finnes i Skolelinux, blant annet Rosegarden.
</p
>
3222 <p
>Har i mange år drevet med musikk og en av grunnen til at Rosegarden
3223 falt i smak for min del, var fordi denne fungere og ligner mest på
3224 Windows-programmet (cubase) jeg jobbet mye med da jeg i mine yngre
3225 dager var «Windows fanatiker». Ble introdusert til Linux av en kompis
3226 av meg for omtrent
14 år siden, og har bare blitt mer og mer glad i
3227 dette operativsystemet.
</p
>
3229 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
3231 <p
>Da jeg ble sykemeldt fra min gamle jobb, og måtte omskoleres,
3232 havnet jeg i
2007 sammen med Viggo Fedreheim på IKT-avdelingen i
3233 Narvik kommune, der ble jeg for første gang introdusert til
3234 Skolelinuxprosjektet.
</p
>
3236 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
3238 <p
>Skolelinux er enkelt å holde i drift og masse flotte programmer som
3239 geogebra, ktouch og kgeografi følger med pakken. Man kan ta i bruk
3240 gamle PC-er igjen, slik at skoler med dårlig råd får opp en brukbar
3241 PC-park. PC-er som er ca
6-
9 år gamle fungere tilfredstillende, bare
3242 de har
512 MB RAM eller mer.
</p
>
3244 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
3246 <p
>Ulempene er at noen av de pedagogiske programmene som lærene ønsker
3247 å bruke fungere dårlig med Linux. Mye pga. av at disse programmene
3248 blir ikke laget til Linuxbaserte operativsystemer.
</p
>
3250 <p
>Video- og bilde-redigering har dessverre en del mangler, mange av
3251 programmene har en tendens til og krasje. Det gjelder blant annet
3252 <a href=
"http://www.kdenlive.org/
">kdenlive
</a
> og
3253 <a href=
"http://www.openshotvideo.com/
">openshot
</a
>, for å nevne
3254 noen. De er ikke stabile nok. Når elevene kommer med filmsnutter de
3255 ønsker og jobbe med, så godtar ikke programmene filene, og når elevene
3256 jobber med redigering bare krasjer programmene uten forvarsel. Det er
3257 for vanskelig å få noe som bare fungerer ut av boksen her. Når en elev
3258 plugger inn et videokamera eller fotoapparat så er det alltid noe som
3259 ikke vil fungere. Programmene godtar ikke format, godtar ikke
3260 kameraet, osv., osv. Det er dessverre med på og dra ned en positiv
3261 opplevelse av bruk av fri programvare.
</p
>
3263 <p
>Man må ofte bruke flere en et video redigerings program før og få
3264 fullført en ønsket oppgave.
</p
>
3266 <p
>Eksempel:
</p
>
3268 <p
>Hvis det ene programmet ikke vil ta i mot videofilen klarer et
3269 annet det, men det programmet som klarer det kan ikke gjøre de samme
3270 oppgavene som det programmet som ikke ville ta i mot filen,
3271 Tilsvarende er det med foto, man må bruke flere programmer for å få
3272 et ferdig resultat. Til dags dato har jeg enda ikke funnet et video-
3273 og fotoprogram som kan tilfredstillende fullføre en oppgave.
</p
>
3275 <p
>Så man kan klare og fullføre en oppgave, men i verste fall må man
3276 innom
3-
4 programmer for å få det til. Så jeg har enda ikke til dags
3277 dato sett at et program fungere
100% til alt.
</p
>
3279 <p
>Det programmet jeg har best erfaring til er
3280 <a href=
"http://cinelerra.org/
">cinelerra
</a
>, men dessverre har det
3281 også tendenser og krasje av og til uten grunn.
</p
>
3283 Lydsystemet kan også være et mareritt. Konkret snakker jeg om når du
3284 bruker for eksempel et smartboard, så følger det med USB-lydkort på
3285 disse. Problemet ligger her i at systemet ikke vil velge rett
3286 lydkort, så man må inn med padevchooser for å sette opp PulseAudio
3287 til og velge at USB-lydkortet skal brukes. Det blir for tungvindt for
3288 lærene, de ønsker at ting skal fungere med en gang. (min løsning på
3289 det problemet ble at jeg måtte deaktivere lydkortet som fantes på
3290 maskinen) men da må man bestandig slå på smartboard-tavla.
3292 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
3294 Programmene jeg bruker mest av er: Rosegarden, jack, qsynth, audacity,
3295 k3b, openttd og libreoffice.
3297 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
3298 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
3300 Jeg tror det må bevisstgjøring av Skolene til, dvs. reklamere høylytt
3301 og fortelle og vise de andre skolene at frie programvarer faktisk
3302 fungere. Jeg trur faktisk mange ikke vet at det finnes frie
3308 <title>Debian Edu interview: Jürgen Leibner
</title>
3309 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__J_rgen_Leibner.html
</link>
3310 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__J_rgen_Leibner.html
</guid>
3311 <pubDate>Sun,
13 May
2012 20:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
3312 <description><p
>It has been a few busy weeks for me, but I am finally back to
3313 publish another interview with the people behind
3314 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a
>.
3315 This time it is one of our German developers, who have helped out over the
3316 years to make sure both a lot of major but also a lot of the minor
3317 details get right before release.
3319 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
3321 <p
>My name is Jürgen Leibner, I
'm
49 years old and living in
3322 Bielefeld, a town in northern Germany. I worked nearly
20 years as
3323 certified engineer in the department for plant design and layout of an
3324 international company for machinery and equipment. Since
2011 I
'm a
3325 certified technical writer (tekom e.V.) and doing technical
3326 documentations for a steam turbine manufacturer. From April this year
3327 I will manage the department of technical documentation at a
3328 manufacturer of automation and assembly line engineering.
</p
>
3330 <p
>My first contact with linux was around
1993. Since that time I used
3331 it at work and at home repeatedly but not exclusively as I do now at
3332 home since
2006.
</p
>
3334 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
3335 project?
</strong
></p
>
3337 <p
>Once a day in the early year of
2001 when I wanted to fetch my
3338 daughter from primary school, there was a teacher sitting in the
3339 middle of
20 old computers trying to boot them and he failed. I helped
3340 him to get them booting. That was seen by the school director and she
3341 asked me if I would like to manage that the school gets all that old
3342 computers in use. I answered:
"Yes
".
</p
>
3344 <p
>Some weeks later every of the
10 classrooms had one computer
3345 running Windows98. I began to collect old computers and equipment as
3346 gifts and installed the first computer room with a peer-to-peer
3347 network. I did my work at school without being payed in my spare time
3348 and with a lot of fun. About one year later the school was connected
3349 to Internet and a local area network was installed in the school
3350 building. That was the time to have a server and I knew it must be a
3351 Linux server to be able to fulfil all the wishes of the teachers and
3352 being able to do this in a transparent and economic way, without extra
3353 costs for things like licence and software. So I searched for a
3354 school server system running under Linux and I found a couple of
3355 people nearby who founded
'skolelinux.de
'. It was the Skolelinux
3356 prerelease
32 I first tried out for being used at the school. I
3357 managed the IT of that school until the municipal authority took over
3358 the IT management and centralised the services for all schools in
3359 Bielefeld in December of
2006.
</p
>
3361 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
3362 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
3364 <p
>When I
'm looking back to the beginning, there were other advantages
3365 for me as today.
</p
>
3367 <p
>In the past there were advantages like:
</p
>
3371 <li
>I don
't need to buy it so it generates no costs to the school as
3372 they had little money to spent for computers and software.
</li
>
3374 <li
>It has a licence which grands all rights to use it without
3377 <li
>It was more able to fit all requirements of a server system for
3378 schools than a Microsoft server system, even if there are only Windows
3379 clients because of it
's preconfigured overall concept of being a
3380 infrastructure solution and community for schools, not only a
3383 <li
>I was able to configure the server to the needs of the
3386 </ul
></p
>
3388 <p
>Today some of the advantages has been lost, changed or new ones
3389 came up in this way:
</p
>
3393 <li
>Most schools here do have money to buy hardware and software
3396 <li
>They are today mostly managed from central IT departments which
3397 have own concepts which often do not fit to Debian Edu concepts
3398 because they are to close to Microsoft ideology.
</li
>
3400 <li
>With the Squeeze version of Debian Edu which now uses GOsa² for
3401 management I feel more able to manage the daily tasks than with the
3402 interfaces used in the past.
</li
>
3404 <li
>It is more modular than in the past and fits even better to the
3405 different needs.
</li
>
3407 <li
>The documentation is usable and gets better every day.
</li
>
3409 <li
>More people than ever before are using Debian Edu all over the
3410 world and so the community, which is an very important part I think,
3411 is sharing knowledge and minds.
</li
>
3413 <li
>Most, maybe all, of the technical requirements for schools are
3414 solved today by Debian Edu.
</li
>
3416 </ul
></p
>
3418 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
3419 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
3423 <li
>There are too few IT companies able to integrate Debian Edu into
3424 their product portfolio for serving schools with concepts or even
3425 whole municipality areas.
</li
>
3427 <li
>Debian Edu has beside other free and open software projects not
3428 enough lobbyists which promote free and open software to
3429 politicians.
</li
>
3431 <li
>Technically there are no disadvantages I
'm aware of.
</li
>
3433 </ul
></p
>
3435 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
3437 <p
>I use Debian stable on my home server and on my little desktop
3438 computer. On my laptop I use Debian testing/sid. The applications I
3439 use on my laptop and my desktop are Open/Libre-office, Iceweasel,
3440 KMail, DigiKam, Amarok, Dolphin, okular and all the other programs I
3441 need from the KDE environment. On console I use newsbeuter, mutt,
3442 screen, irssi and all the other famous and useful tools.
</p
>
3444 <p
>My home server provides mail services with exim, dovecot, roundcube
3445 and mutt over ssh on the console, file services with samba, NFS,
3446 rsync, web services with apache, moinmoin-wiki, multimedia services
3447 with gallery2 and mediatomb and database services with MySQL for me
3448 and the whole family. I probably forgot something.
</p
>
3450 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
3451 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
3453 <p
>I believe, we should provide concepts for IT companies to integrate
3454 Debian Edu into their product portfolio with use cases for different
3455 countries and areas all over the world.
</p
>
3460 <title>Forskning:
"GPL gir lokal frihet og kontroll gjennom omfordeling av makt fra produsent til bruker
"</title>
3461 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Forskning___GPL_gir_lokal_frihet_og_kontroll_gjennom_omfordeling_av_makt_fra_produsent_til_bruker_.html
</link>
3462 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Forskning___GPL_gir_lokal_frihet_og_kontroll_gjennom_omfordeling_av_makt_fra_produsent_til_bruker_.html
</guid>
3463 <pubDate>Sun,
15 Apr
2012 13:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
3464 <description><p
>Da jeg googlet etter noe annet kom jeg tilfeldigvis over
3465 <a href=
"http://www.duo.uio.no/sok/work.html?WORKID=
58309">en
3466 hovedfagsoppgave
</a
> ved Universitetet i Oslo som diskuterer verdien
3467 av GPLs fire friheter for brukerne av IT-systemer. Jeg ble fascinert
3468 over det som presenteres der. Her er sammendraget:
</p
>
3470 <p
><blockquote
>
3472 <p
>Motivasjonen til å skrive denne oppgaven er en personlig undring
3473 over hvorfor det primært, og ofte eksklusivt, fokuseres på det
3474 økonomiske aspektet ved utredninger om fri programvare er et godt valg
3475 for det offentlige. Fri og produsenteid programvare bygger på
3476 fundamentalt forskjellige ideologier som kan ha implikasjoner utover
3477 økonomiske kostnader. Kunnskapskulturen som er med på å definere fri
3478 programvare er basert på åpenhet, og er en verdi i seg selv.
</p
>
3480 <p
>Oppgavens tema er programvarelisensen GPL og frihet. GPL-lisensiert
3481 programvare gir visse friheter i forhold til produsenteid
3482 programvare. Mitt spørsmål er om, og eventuelt i hvilken utstrekning,
3483 disse frihetene blir benyttet av ulike brukere og hvordan de
3484 manifesterer seg for disse brukerne. Sentrale spørsmål i oppgaven
3488 <li
>Hvordan fordeles handlekraft gjennom lisensieringen av programvaren?
</li
>
3489 <li
>Hvilke konsekvenser har programvarelisensen for de ulike brukere?
</li
>
3492 <p
>Fri programvare gir blant annet brukeren mulighet til å studere og
3493 modifisere kildekoden. Denne formen for frihet erverves gjennom
3494 kunnskap og krever at brukeren også er en ekspert. Hva skjer med
3495 frihetene til GPL når sluttbrukeren er en annen? Dette diskuteres i
3496 dialog med informantene.
</p
>
3498 <p
>Jeg har i denne oppgaven samlet inn intervjudata fra IKT-ansvarlige
3499 ved grunnskolene i Nittedal kommune, driftsansvarlig og IKT-veilederen
3500 for skolene i kommunen, samt IKT-koordinator for utdanning i Akershus
3501 fylkeskommune og bokmåloversettere av OpenOffice.org. Den empiriske
3502 delen av oppgaven er delt inn i to seksjoner; den første omhandler
3503 operativsystemet Skolelinux, den andre kontorprogrampakken
3504 OpenOffice.org.
</p
>
3506 <p
>Som vi vil se gir GPL lokal frihet og kontroll gjennom omfordeling
3507 av makt fra produsent til bruker. Brukerens makt analyseres gjennom
3508 begrepene brukermedvirkning og handlingsfrihet. Det blir også lagt
3509 vekt på strukturelle forhold rundt bruken av teknologi, og spesielt de
3510 økonomiske begrepene nettverkseksternaliteter, innlåsing og
3511 stiavhengighet. Dette er begreper av spesiell nytte når objektet som
3512 omsettes eller distribueres er et kommunikasjonsprodukt, fordi verdien
3513 til et slikt gode for en potensiell bruker avhenger av antall
3514 eksisterende brukere av godet. I tilknytning til denne problematikken
3515 inneholder oppgaven også en diskusjon rundt åpne standarder og
3518 <p
>Oppgaven konkluderer med at de «fire frihetene» som GPL-lisensen er
3519 laget for å beskytte er av avgjørende betydning for bruken av
3520 OpenOffice.org og Skolelinux, i Akershus fylkeskommune såvel som i
3521 skolene i Nittedal. Distribusjonen av handlekraft er ikke helt
3522 symmetrisk. Det er først og fremst de profesjonelle utviklerne i
3523 Skolelinux som direkte kan nyttiggjøre seg friheten til å endre kode,
3524 mens en sluttbruker som Nittedal kommune nyttiggjør seg den økonomiske
3525 friheten til å kunne distribuere programmene. Det er imidlertid også
3526 slik at ingen aktør klarer seg uten alle disse «frihetene».
</p
>
3527 </blockquote
></p
>
3529 <p
>Jeg fant også en masteroppgave fra
2006, men der ligger ikke
3530 komplett oppgave tilgjengelig. På tide å holde et øye med
3531 <a href=
"http://www.duo.uio.no/sok/search.html?q=skolelinux
">Skolelinux-søket
</a
>
3532 til DUO...
</p
>
3538 <title>Debian Edu interview: Andreas Mundt
</title>
3539 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Andreas_Mundt.html
</link>
3540 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Andreas_Mundt.html
</guid>
3541 <pubDate>Sun,
15 Apr
2012 12:
10:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
3542 <description><p
>Behind
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu and
3543 Skolelinux
</a
> there are a lot of people doing the hard work of
3544 setting together all the pieces. This time I present to you Andreas
3545 Mundt, who have been part of the technical development team several
3546 years. He was also a key contributor in getting GOsa and Kerberos set
3547 up in the recently released
3548 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze
">Debian
3549 Edu Squeeze
</a
> version.
</p
>
3551 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
3553 <p
>My name is Andreas Mundt, I grew up in south Germany. After
3554 studying Physics I spent several years at university doing research in
3555 Quantum Optics. After that I worked some years in an optics company.
3556 Finally I decided to turn over a new leaf in my life and started
3557 teaching
10 to
19 years old kids at school. I teach math, physics,
3558 information technology and science/technology.
</p
>
3560 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
3561 project?
</strong
></p
>
3563 <p
>Already before I switched to teaching, I followed the Debian Edu
3564 project because of my interest in education and Debian. Within the
3565 qualification/training period for the teaching, I started
3566 contributing.
</p
>
3568 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
3569 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
3571 <p
>The advantages of Debian Edu are the well known name, the
3572 out-of-the-box philosophy and of course the great free software of the
3573 Debian Project!
</p
>
3575 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
3576 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
3578 <p
>As every coin has two sides, the out-of-the-box philosophy has its
3579 downside, too. In my opinion, it is hard to modify and tweak the
3580 setup, if you need or want that. Further more, it is not easily
3581 possible to upgrade the system to a new release. It takes much too
3582 long after a Debian release to prepare the -Edu release, perhaps
3583 because the number of developers working on the core of the code is
3584 rather small and often busy elsewhere.
</p
>
3586 <p
>The
<a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLAN
">Debian LAN
</a
>
3587 project might fill the use case of a more flexible system.
</p
>
3589 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
3591 <p
>I am only using non-free software if I am forced to and run Debian
3592 on all my machines. For documents I prefer LaTeX and PGF/TikZ, then
3593 mutt and iceweasel for email respectively web browsing. At school I
3594 have Arduino and Fritzing in use for a micro controller project.
</p
>
3596 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
3597 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
3599 <p
>One of the major problems is the vendor lock-in from top to bottom:
3600 Especially in combination with ignorant government employees and
3601 politicians, this works out great for the
"market-leader
". The school
3602 administration here in Baden-Wuerttemberg is occupied by that vendor.
3603 Documents have to be prepared in non-free, proprietary formats. Even
3604 free browsers do not work for the school administration. Publishers
3605 of school books provide software only for proprietary platforms.
</p
>
3607 <p
>To change this, political work is very important. Parts of the
3608 political spectrum have become aware of the problem in the last years.
3609 However it takes quite some time and courageous politicians to
'free
'
3610 the system. There is currently some discussion about
"Open Data
" and
3611 "Free/Open Standards
". I am not sure if all the involved parties have
3612 a clue about the potential of these ideas, and probably only a
3613 fraction takes them seriously. However it might slowly make free
3614 software and the philosophy behind it more known and popular.
</p
>
3619 <title>Debian Edu interview: Justin B. Rye
</title>
3620 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Justin_B__Rye.html
</link>
3621 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Justin_B__Rye.html
</guid>
3622 <pubDate>Sun,
8 Apr
2012 10:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
3623 <description><p
>It take all kind of contributions to create a Linux distribution
3624 like
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a
>,
3625 and this time I lend the ear to Justin B. Rye, who is listed as a big
3627 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze
">Debian
3628 Edu Squeeze release manual
</a
>.
3630 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
3632 <p
>I
'm a
44-year-old linguistics graduate living in Edinburgh who has
3633 occasionally been employed as a sysadmin.
</p
>
3635 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
3636 project?
</strong
></p
>
3638 <p
>I
'm neither a developer nor a Skolelinux/Debian Edu user! The only
3639 reason my name
's in the credits for the documentation is that I hang
3640 around on debian-l10n-english waiting for people to mention things
3641 they
'd like a native English speaker to proofread... So I did a sweep
3642 through the wiki for typos and Norglish and inconsistent spellings of
3643 "localisation
".
</p
>
3645 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
3646 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
3648 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
3649 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
3651 <p
>These questions are too hard for me - I don
't use it! In fact I
3652 had hardly any contact with I.T. until long after I
'd got out of the
3653 education system.
</p
>
3655 <p
>I can tell you the advantages of Debian for me though: it soaks up
3656 as much of my free time as I want and no more, and lets me do
3657 everything I want a computer for without ever forcing me to spend
3658 money on the latest hardware.
</p
>
3660 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
3662 <p
>I
've been using Debian since Rex; popularity-contest says the
3663 software that I use most is xinit, xterm, and xulrunner (in other
3664 words, I use a distinctly retro sort of desktop).
</p
>
3666 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
3667 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
3669 <p
>Well, I don
't know. I suppose I
'd be inclined to try reasoning
3670 with the people who make the decisions, but obviously if that worked
3671 you would hardly need a strategy.
</p
>
3676 <title>Why the KDE menu is slow when /usr/ is NFS mounted - and a workaround
</title>
3677 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Why_the_KDE_menu_is_slow_when__usr__is_NFS_mounted___and_a_workaround.html
</link>
3678 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Why_the_KDE_menu_is_slow_when__usr__is_NFS_mounted___and_a_workaround.html
</guid>
3679 <pubDate>Fri,
6 Apr
2012 22:
40:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
3680 <description><p
>Recently I have spent time with
3681 <a href=
"http://www.slxdrift.no/
">Skolelinux Drift AS
</a
> on speeding
3682 up a
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a
>
3683 Lenny installation using LTSP diskless workstations, and in the
3684 process I discovered something very surprising. The reason the KDE
3685 menu was responding slow when using it for the first time, was mostly
3686 due to the way KDE find application icons. I discovered that showing
3687 the Multimedia menu would cause more than
20 000 IP packages to be
3688 passed between the LTSP client and the NFS server. Most of these were
3690 NFS LOOKUP calls, resulting in a NFS3ERR_NOENT response. Because the
3691 ping times between the client and the server were in the range
2-
20
3692 ms, the menus would be very slow. Looking at the strace of kicker in
3693 Lenny (or plasma-desktop i Squeeze - same problem there), I see that
3694 the source of these NFS calls are access(
2) system calls for
3695 non-existing files. KDE can do hundreds of access(
2) calls to find
3696 one icon file. In my example, just finding the mplayer icon required
3697 around
230 access(
2) calls.
</p
>
3699 <p
>The KDE code seem to search for icons using a list of icon
3700 directories, and the list of possible directories is large. In
3701 (almost) each directory, it look for files ending in .png, .svgz, .svg
3702 and .xpm. The result is a very slow KDE menu when /usr/ is NFS
3703 mounted. Showing a single sub menu may result in thousands of NFS
3704 requests. I am not the first one to discover this. I found a
3705 <a href=
"https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=
211416">KDE bug report
3706 from
2009</a
> about this problem, and it is still unsolved.
</p
>
3708 <p
>My solution to speed up the KDE menu was to create a package
3709 kde-icon-cache that upon installation will look at all .desktop files
3710 used to generate the KDE menu, find their icons, search the icon paths
3711 for the file that KDE will end up finding at run time, and copying the
3712 icon file to /var/lib/kde-icon-cache/. Finally, I add symlinks to
3713 these icon files in one of the first directories where KDE will look
3714 for them. This cut down the number of file accesses required to find
3715 one icon from several hundred to less than
5, and make the KDE menu
3716 almost instantaneous. I
'm not quite sure where to make the package
3717 publicly available, so for now it is only available on request.
</p
>
3719 <p
>The bug report mention that this do not only affect the KDE menu
3720 and icon handling, but also the login process. Not quite sure how to
3721 speed up that part without replacing NFS with for example NBD, and
3722 that is not really an option at the moment.
</p
>
3724 <p
>If you got feedback on this issue, please let us know on debian-edu
3725 (at) lists.debian.org.
</p
>
3730 <title>Debian Edu in the Linux Weekly News
</title>
3731 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_in_the_Linux_Weekly_News.html
</link>
3732 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_in_the_Linux_Weekly_News.html
</guid>
3733 <pubDate>Thu,
5 Apr
2012 08:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
3734 <description><p
>About two weeks ago, I was interviewed via email about
3735 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a
> by
3736 Bruce Byfield in Linux Weekly News. The result was made public for
3737 non-subscribers today. I am pleased to see liked our Linux solution
3738 for schools. Check out his article
3739 <a href=
"https://lwn.net/Articles/
488805/
">Debian Edu/Skolelinux: A
3740 distribution for education
</a
> if you want to learn more.
</p
>
3745 <title>Debian Edu interview: Wolfgang Schweer
</title>
3746 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Wolfgang_Schweer.html
</link>
3747 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Wolfgang_Schweer.html
</guid>
3748 <pubDate>Sun,
1 Apr
2012 23:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
3749 <description><p
>Germany is a core area for the
3750 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a
>
3751 user community, and this time I managed to get hold of Wolfgang
3752 Schweer, a valuable contributor to the project from Germany.
3754 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
3756 <p
>I
've studied Mathematics at the university
'Ruhr-Universität
' in
3757 Bochum, Germany. Since
1981 I
'm working as a teacher at the school
3758 "<a href=
"http://www.westfalenkolleg-dortmund.de/
">Westfalen-Kolleg
3759 Dortmund
</a
>", a second chance school. Here, young adults is given
3760 the opportunity to get further education in order to do the school
3761 examination
'Abitur
', which will allow to study at a university. This
3762 second chance is of value for those who want a better job perspective
3763 or failed to get a higher school examination being teens.
</p
>
3765 <p
>Besides teaching I was involved in developing online courses for a
3766 blended learning project called
'abitur-online.nrw
' and in some other
3767 information technology related projects. For about ten years I
've been
3768 teacher and coordinator for the
'abitur-online
' project at my
3769 school. Being now in my early sixties, I
've decided to leave school at
3770 the end of April this year.
</p
>
3772 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
3773 project?
</strong
></p
>
3775 <p
>The first information about Skolelinux must have come to my
3776 attention years ago and somehow related to LTSP (Linux Terminal Server
3777 Project). At school, we had set up a network at the beginning of
1997
3778 using Suse Linux on the desktop, replacing a Novell network. Since
3779 2002, we used old machines from the city council of Dortmund as thin
3780 clients (LTSP, later Ubuntu/Lessdisks) cause new hardware was out of
3781 reach. At home I
'm using Debian since years and - subscribed to the
3782 Debian news letter - heard from time to time about Skolelinux. About
3783 two years ago I proposed to replace the (somehow undocumented and only
3784 known to me) system at school by a well known Debian based system:
3785 Skolelinux.
</p
>
3787 <p
>Students and teachers appreciated the new system because of a
3788 better look and feel and an enhanced access to local media on thin
3789 clients. The possibility to alter and/or reset passwords using a GUI
3790 was welcomed, too. Being able to do administrative tasks using a GUI
3791 and to easily set up workstations using PXE was of very high value for
3792 the admin teachers.
</p
>
3794 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
3795 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
3797 <p
>It
's open source, easy to set up, stable and flexible due to it
's
3798 Debian base. It integrates LTSP out-of-the-box. And it is documented!
3799 So it was a perfect choice.
</p
>
3801 <p
>Being open source, there are no license problems and so it
's
3802 possible to point teachers and students to programs like
3803 OpenOffice.org, ViewYourMind (mind mapping) and The Gimp. It
's of
3804 high value to be able to adapt parts of the system to special needs of
3805 a school and to choose where to get support for this.
</p
>
3807 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
3808 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
3810 <p
>Nothing yet.
</p
>
3812 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
3814 <p
>At home (Debian Sid with Gnome Desktop): Iceweasel, LibreOffice,
3815 Mutt, Gedit, Document Viewer, Midnight Commander, flpsed (PDF
3816 Annotator). At school (Skolelinux Lenny): Iceweasel, Gedit,
3817 LibreOffice.
</p
>
3819 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
3820 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
3822 <p
>Some time ago I thought it was enough to tell people about it. But
3823 that doesn
't seem to work quite well. Now I concentrate on those more
3824 interested and hope to get multiplicators that way.
</p
>
3829 <title>Linux-skoler har høyere PC-tetthet enn landsgjennomsnittet - pressemelding fra FRiSK
</title>
3830 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Linux_skoler_har_h_yere_PC_tetthet_enn_landsgjennomsnittet___pressemelding_fra_FRiSK.html
</link>
3831 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Linux_skoler_har_h_yere_PC_tetthet_enn_landsgjennomsnittet___pressemelding_fra_FRiSK.html
</guid>
3832 <pubDate>Fri,
30 Mar
2012 19:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
3833 <description><p
>I dag har
<a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no
">FRiSK
</a
>
3834 sendt ut følgende pressemelding basert på mine beregninger av
3835 PC-tetthet på Linux-skoler:
</p
>
3837 <p
><strong
>Linux-skoler har høyere PC-tetthet enn
3838 landsgjennomsnittet
</strong
></p
>
3840 <p
>Oslo,
30 Mars
2012</p
>
3842 <p
>Det er store forskjeller på skolenes digitale tilstand, viser
3843 undersøkelsen Monitor
2011 som er laget på oppdrag fra
3844 Kunnskapsdepartementet. Dette har ført til debatt om PC-tilgangen i
3845 skolen, og om de med Linux i skolen gjør det bedre bedre eller
3846 dårligere enn snittet i landet.
</p
>
3848 <p
>Nå har vi tallene. Skoler med Linux har
36% større PC-tetthet en
3849 landsgjennomsnittet. På spørsmål hvorfor skoler med Linux har større
3850 PC-tetthet, observerer Paul Reidar Løsnesløkken som er IKT-konsulent i
3851 Nord-Odal:
</p
>
3853 <p
><blockquote
>"Vi erfarer at klienter med Skolelinux har god funksjon
3854 til de er
8 til
10 år gamle. Dette er omtrent dobbelt så lenge som
3855 andre løsninger, og skolene får mer datautstyr for
3856 pengene.
"</blockquote
></p
>
3858 <p
>Undersøkelsen baserer seg på
56 skoler som har gjort det offentlig
3859 at de kjører Skolelinux eller annen Linux-utgave. De kan også ha PC-er
3860 med Windows i skolenettet. Når en sammenligner PC-tetthetene på
3861 skolene i kommunene Flora, Harstad, Kongsvinger, Narvik, Nittedal,
3862 Nord-Odal og Randaberg, er det i snitt
2,
28 elev pr. PC på skolene med
3863 Linux. På landsbasis er det
3.11 elev per PC i grunnskolen, i følge
3864 side
95 i Monitor-rapporten for
2011. Målingen viser dermed
36% større
3865 PC-tetthet i skoler med Linux.
</p
>
3867 <p
><strong
>Om Skolelinux/Debian Edu
</strong
></p
>
3869 <p
>Skolelinux har til hensikt å gi alle barn full tilgang til
3870 skoleaktuelle dataprogram på sitt eget morsmål. Derfor følger det med
3871 godt over
100 skoleaktuelle programmene laget for læring. De fleste
3872 programmene er oversatt til over
50 språk. Elevene skal også kunne
3873 studere alle sider av dataprogrammene. Derfor følger også kildekode
3874 med. Elever med interesse kan lære av eksperter som har laget
3875 systemet. Dette med enkelt programmering i læreprogram som KTurtle,
3876 til profesjonelle verktøy som Qt Creator eller Java.
</p
>
3878 <p
>Skolelinux er laget for sentralisert drift, der alt teknisk
3879 administrasjon av alle skolene kan gjøres sentralt fra kommunehuset
3880 eller sentralt i en region. F.eks. drifter to-tre personer
70.000
3881 skoledatamaskiner på
200 skoler i delstaten Extremadura i
3882 Spania. Etter velykket bruk av Debian Edu i skolen, legger delstaten
3883 over til Debian på
40.000 datamaskiner i administrasjonen. Det er idag
3884 mange selskap som tilbyr profesjonell støtte til innføring og drift i
3885 Norge og verden.
</p
>
3887 <p
><strong
>Om FRiSK
</strong
></p
>
3889 <p
>Medlemsforeningen Fri Programvare i Skolen organiserer
3890 dugnadsprosjektet som står bak Skolelinux.
</p
>
3892 <p
><strong
>Kontaktperson
</strong
></p
>
3894 <p
>Knut Yrvin
</p
>
3896 <p
>Leder av Fri Programvare i Skolen (FRISK)
</p
>
3898 <p
>Epost: knuty at skolelinux.no
3899 <br
>Mobil: +
47 93 479 561</p
>
3901 <p
><strong
>Referanser
</strong
></p
>
3905 <li
><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">http://www.skolelinux.org/
</a
></li
>
3906 <li
><a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
</a
></li
>
3907 <li
><a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Download
">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Download
</a
></li
>
3908 <li
><a href=
"https://www.wis.no/gsi
">https://www.wis.no/gsi
</a
></li
>
3909 <li
><a href=
"http://iktsenteret.no/sites/iktsenteret.no/files/attachments/monitor2011.pdf
">http://iktsenteret.no/sites/iktsenteret.no/files/attachments/monitor2011.pdf
</a
></li
>
3910 <li
><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/St_rre_PC_tetthet_i_skolen_med_Skolelinux_.html
">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/St_rre_PC_tetthet_i_skolen_med_Skolelinux_.html
</a
></li
>
3911 <li
><a href=
"https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/linuxiskolen/
2012-March/
018500.html
">https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/linuxiskolen/
2012-March/
018500.html
</a
></li
>
3913 </ul
></p
>
3918 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Roy-Arne Myhre
</title>
3919 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Roy_Arne_Myhre.html
</link>
3920 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Roy_Arne_Myhre.html
</guid>
3921 <pubDate>Wed,
28 Mar
2012 15:
15:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
3922 <description><p
>I serien med intervjuer av folk i
3923 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>-miljøet, får vi
3924 denne gangen høre fra en IKT-ansvarlig som har brukt Skolelinux i
3925 mange år, og vært storfornøyd med erfaringene så langt.
</p
>
3927 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
3929 <p
>Mitt navn er Roy-Arne Myhre og jeg er
42 år. Jeg er ansatt hos
3930 <a href=
"http://www.sandskole.no/
">Sand skole
</a
> (Balsfjord kommune)
3931 og har stort sett vært det siden
1990. Jeg er IKT ansvarlig ved
3932 skolen i
40% stilling –
10% undervisning – musikk.
</p
>
3934 <p
>Ved skolen er det ca
100 elever og ca
18 lærere +
4 assistenter i
3935 hele og delte stillinger. Alle lærerne har bærbar PC (dessverre med
3936 Win Vista) – assistenter har tilgang til egne. Vi benytter Fronter i
3937 det daglige arbeidet. Vi har ca
90 elevmaskiner som fungerer til
3938 daglig opp mot Linux server (XFCE) som driftes av
3939 <a href=
"http://www.bzz.no/
">BzzWare AS
</a
> via nett. Maskinparken
3940 består kun av brukt utstyr for elevene – og noe av dette begynner å
3941 bli vel gammelt selv som halvtykke klienter.
</p
>
3943 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med
3944 Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
3946 <p
>Vi kom første gang i kontakt med Skolelinux rundt
1997. Den gang
3947 var det oppstart-disketter i hver maskin, ikke mulighet for lyd og
3948 video, gamle nettverkskort og mye plundring. Vi hadde en ihuga
3949 forelder med som pådriver, forsker og inspirator for hele opplegget.
3950 Selv ante jeg knapt at Skolelinux fantes, men han var av den
3951 utforskende typen, og fikk både meg og skolelederen i trua på at dette
3952 var ting som kunne fungere. Etter dette har det gått gradvis
3953 framover; flere maskiner er hentet inn gjennom bl.a
3954 <a href=
"http://www.greentech.no/
">Greentech
</a
> og utrangert utstyr
3955 fra høgskole / Avinor og private givere. Når maskinene ble for trege
3956 for nye Windows-versjoner, sto vi klare til å putte dem i nettverket
3957 vårt. Dette betyr at vi i dag har
1:
1 dekning av maskiner på
3958 ungdomstrinnet og bedre enn
1:
2 på barnetrinnet. Dette er vi veldig
3959 fornøyd med, og vi kan ikke se for oss hverdagen som ville vært
3960 alternativet ved bruk av Windows med sine lisenser pr. Bruker/maskin.
3961 Da ville vi nok vært tilbake til
1-
2 maskiner pr klasserom med de
3962 negative konsekvenser det ville hatt for undervisningsformene våre. Vi
3963 kan ha en hel klasse i prosjektjobbing eller individuell jobbing
3964 samtidig – vi kan avholde tentamen og eksamen uten
3965 logistikkproblemer.
</p
>
3967 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
3969 Hvor skal jeg begynne... Stabiliteten er et nøkkelord - det bare
3970 virker. Har du først fått en server med Skolelinux opp og gå, så må
3971 det en maskinarefeil eller sabotasje til for å stoppe den. Det at man
3972 kan bruke eldre maskiner som normalt sett ville gått på dynga, er også
3973 glimrende - billig for skoler med dårlig økonomi og bra for miljøet
3974 siden vi gjenbruker utstyr i stedet for å skaffe nytt. Vi ville aldri
3975 hatt mulighet til å operere med det maskinantallet vi har pr i dag
3976 hvis det ikke var for Skolelinux - så tilgjengelighet er et annet
3977 nøkkelord. Et tredje moment er sikkerhet og brukertilgang. Alle
3978 brukerer opererer med egne brukernavn og passord, samt egne
3979 brukerområder som kan tilpasses for både enbrukertilgang og for
3980 samarbeid med andre.
3982 Elever har godt av å se at det finnes andre alternativer enn de som
3983 storindustrien selger på lisensbasis - på den måten trenes de opp til
3984 å se flere muligheter og å foreta valg ut fra flere opsjoner.
3986 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
3988 <p
>Ulempene med Skolelinux er nok utbredelsen og mangelen på kjennskap
3989 til dette i skolenorge. De som skal ta økonomiske avgjørelser rynker
3990 på nesen og vil gå for det kjente og «sikre» selv om det koster mye
3991 mer. Man får rett og slett litt hetta av å ikke kunne noe – og unngår
3992 dette for enhver pris.
</p
>
3994 <p
>I tillegg er mye av linux-systemet administrert av tekstkommandoer
3995 og er lite intuitiv/visuell for oss som ikke er «inne i»
3996 kildekodene». Så problemet er nok mye godt at de som
3997 utarbeider/drifter Skolelinux ikke helt klarer å sette seg ned på
3998 skoleadministratorens nivå når det gjelder problemer og
3999 utfordringer. Men dette er nok en utfordring alle administratorer
4000 sliter med uansett OS.
</p
>
4002 <p
>Derfor har vi valgt å støtte oss til BzzWare AS for assistanse i
4003 drifta slik at jeg har kunnet konsentrere meg mer om kabling, skifting
4004 av komponenter, veiledning av lærere og elever, vedlikehold av
4005 skrivere og annen daglig drift.
</p
>
4007 <p
>Elevene mestrer Skolelinux helt fint. Så lenge Internett
4008 (Iceweasel) og Libreoffice (Openoffice) fungerer er
90% av
4009 skolehverdagen velfungerende. I tillegg brukes jo en del av den
4010 pedagogiske programpakken bla. i forhold til matematikk og geografi,
4011 men det er såpass mye bra på nett om dagen, så disse programmene er
4012 mer som krydder å regne.
</p
>
4014 <p
>Jeg skulle ønske neste versjon av Skolelinux kunne komme litt
4015 mindre stappet med programmer, for halvparten blir aldri brukt, eller
4016 fungerer ikke uansett. Hva med et pedagogisk panel av lærere/IKT
4017 ansvarlige som kunne sagt: disse programmene skal være standard, så
4018 får resten være slike man kan legge til ved behov – det kan lett bli
4019 en jungel å bevege seg i.
</p
>
4021 <p
>Jeg ønsker meg også en mer grafisk versjon av
4022 <a href=
"http://bzz.no/lwat/trac/trac.cgi
">Lwat
</a
> hvor man kan krysse
4023 ut de som f.eks ikke skal ha internett-tilgang en dag pga
4024 eksamen/tentamen, samt en noe enklere brannmurløsning hvor man kan
4025 stenge for en del (få) sider på en enkel måte. Jeg liker godt
4026 Skolelinux sin ideologi om at filteret skal trenes i hodet på eleven –
4027 men av og til skulle jeg ønske at f.eks Facebook og Youtube kunne vært
4028 koblet vekk en periode for å få bedre utnyttelse av tid og
4029 ressurser. Disse to nettstedene er nok mye av årsaken til at mange
4030 lærere holder igjen databruken noe mer enn man kunne ønske.
</p
>
4032 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
4034 Jeg benytter nesten bare fri programvare til daglig. LibreOffice,
4035 Iceweasel (Firefox), Thunderbird til e-post og Gimp til
4036 bildebehandling. Vi har PHP-Nuke-oppsatt hjemmeside. Det eneste som
4037 jeg ikke har fått helt til enda er videoredigering - her må man vel
4038 innrømme at Mac er hakket over, men da er vi igjen over på å se hva
4039 som egner seg best, og ta valg ut fra det. Folk flest lever i
4040 villfarelsen om at regneark HETER Excel og tekstbehandling HETER
4041 Word. Dette er en misforståelse som jeg bruker mye energi på å
4042 diskutere og
"åpne sinn
" på Microsoft-slaver. Dessverre er det mange
4043 IKT-ansvarlige som også har låst seg på at det eneste saliggjørende er
4044 Bill G sine produkter.
4046 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
4047 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
4049 <p
>For å komme lenger i utbredelsen av Skolelinux tror jeg det må mer
4050 fram i nasjonale medier, samt komme bedre fram hva økonomien i dette
4051 valget vil være – samt mulighetene. Fri programvare er en berikelse og
4052 gjør oss i stand til å utføre arbeidet i skolen uten å måtte legge
4053 igjen tusener på tusener i Bill Gates lomme.. Få ETT nettsted med
4054 forståelig veiledning av installasjon/oppgradering og ETT forum med
4055 konkrete feilrettinger og problemer, så tror jeg vi kunne kommet et
4056 par skritt framover. Ellers tror jeg bare at ildsjelene må fortsette å
4057 skinne – kanskje flere enn oss følger etter på veien.
</p
>
4062 <title>Debian Edu screencast: Checking email with kmail using Kerberos authentication
</title>
4063 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_screencast__Checking_email_with_kmail_using_Kerberos_authentication.html
</link>
4064 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_screencast__Checking_email_with_kmail_using_Kerberos_authentication.html
</guid>
4065 <pubDate>Sun,
25 Mar
2012 10:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
4066 <description><!-- Video HTML based on http://www.diveintohtml5.net/video.html --
>
4068 <p
>The same Debian Edu developer that did the last screen cast I
4069 published, Wolfgang Schweer, has created a new screen cast showing how
4070 to set up Kmail in Debian Edu Squeze to authenticate using Kerberos,
4071 allowing users to check their local email account without providing
4072 any password. The video is embedded here in quarter size,
4073 and also available from
<a href=
"https://vimeo.com/
38601767">vimeo
</a
>
4075 <a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/press/screencasts/
2012-
03-
14-Debian-Edu_Configure_Kmail_for_internal_usage.ogv
">Ogg
4076 Theora
</a
> file. Check it out below.
</p
>
4078 <p
><video id=
"kmail-kerberos-movie
" width=
"256" height=
"184" preload controls
>
4079 <source src=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/press/screencasts/
2012-
03-
14-Debian-Edu_Configure_Kmail_for_internal_usage.ogv
" type=
'video/ogg; codecs=
"theora, vorbis
"' /
>
4080 <p
>Download video as
4081 <a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/press/screencasts/
2012-
03-
14-Debian-Edu_Configure_Kmail_for_internal_usage.ogv
">Ogg
</a
>.
</p
>
4082 </video
></p
>
4087 <title>Større PC-tetthet i skolen med Skolelinux?
</title>
4088 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/St_rre_PC_tetthet_i_skolen_med_Skolelinux_.html
</link>
4089 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/St_rre_PC_tetthet_i_skolen_med_Skolelinux_.html
</guid>
4090 <pubDate>Mon,
19 Mar
2012 23:
25:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4091 <description><p
>Den siste uka har det vært en del skriverier om hvor store
4092 forskjeller det er mellom skolene når det gjelder digital kompetanse.
4094 <a href=
"http://www.digi.no/
891660/bekymret-for-it-i-skolen
">oppslaget
4095 i Digi
</a
>. Diskusjonen fikk meg til å bli litt nysgjerrig på om
4096 Linux-skoler har større PC-tettet enn snittet i landet. Grunnlaget
4097 for diskusjonen har vært undersøkelsen
4098 <a href=
"https://iktsenteret.no/ressurser/monitor-
2011-skolens-digitale-tilstand
">Monitor
4099 2011</a
>, som bruker informasjon fra
4100 <a href=
"https://www.wis.no/gsi
">Grunnskolens Informasjonssystem
</a
>
4101 (GSI). GSI-data kan lastes ned fra web og jeg lastet ned en Excel-fil
4102 (intet åpen standard-valg tilgjengelig) med navn på alle skoler,
4103 hvilke kommune de befinner seg i og hvor mange elever pr. elev-PC de
4104 har rapportert inn. For å få en ide om svaret trenger jeg deretter å
4105 vite hvilke skoler i landet som bruker Linux, slik at jeg kan slå dem
4106 opp i GSI og finne ut hvor stor PC-tetthet de har.
</p
>
4108 <p
>Jeg vet om skoler i Balsfjord, Flora, Harstad, Kongsvinger, Narvik,
4109 Nittedal, Nord-Odal, Randaberg og Sunndal som bruker Skolelinux eller
4110 andre Linux-varianter. Jeg tror det er flere enn de
56 skolene jeg
4111 har klart å identifisere de siste dagene, men har ikke klart å få det
4112 bekreftet med offentlige kilder.
</p
>
4114 <p
>Monitor
2011-rapporteres side
95 forteller at det
"ifølge GSI
4115 (
20120-
2011) er det
3,
11 elever per datamaskin når vi tar med alle
4116 grunnskoler (
1.-
10.trinn)
". For de
56 Linux-skolene jeg har klart å
4117 koble mot informasjon i GSI er det
2,
28 elever per elevdatamaskin,
4118 hvilket betyr at det er
36% høyere PC-tetthet på Linux-skoler enn
4119 landsgjennomsnittet. Linux-skolen med høyest tettet blant de jeg har
4120 notert -skole er Flora ungdomsskule i Flora kommune med
0.82 elev
4121 pr. PC (
482 elever,
588 elevdatamaskiner).
</p
>
4123 <p
>Skolelinux gir datamaskiner lengre levetid, og en kan dermed få
4124 flere operative datamaskiner for samme budsjett, i tillegg til en
4125 rekke andre fordeler. Kan det være forklaringen på forskjellen?
</p
>
4127 <p
>Tallene må tas med en liten klype, da GSI ser ut til å ha endel
4128 feilføringer. Jeg synes i hvert fall en skole med
423 elever og
9
4129 elevmaskiner ser mistenkelig ut. Eller en skole med
346 elever,
0
4130 elevmaskiner, som er et annet ekstremt eksempel jeg fant.
</p
>
4132 <p
>Takk til Sturle Sunde, Klaus Ade Johnstad, Ole-Anders Andreassen og
4133 Trond Mæhlum for innspill om skoler med Linux.
</p
>
4138 <title>Debian Edu interview: John Ingleby
</title>
4139 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__John_Ingleby.html
</link>
4140 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__John_Ingleby.html
</guid>
4141 <pubDate>Mon,
19 Mar
2012 21:
15:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4142 <description><p
><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a
>
4143 users are spread all across the globe. The second inteview after
4144 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/
2012/
03/msg00001.html
">the
4145 Squeeze release
</a
> was publised is with John Ingleby, a teacher and
4146 long time Linux user in United Kingdom.
</p
>
4148 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
4150 <p
>I teach ICT part time at the Rudolf Steiner School in Kings
4151 Langley, near London, UK. Previously I worked as a technical
4152 author/trainer while my children attended the school, and I also
4153 contributed to the Schoolforge UK community with the aim of
4154 encouraging UK schools to adopt free/open source software. Five or six
4155 years ago we had about
50 schools interested in some way, but we
4156 weren
't able to convert many of them into sustainable
4157 installations.
</p
>
4159 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
4160 project?
</strong
></p
>
4162 <p
>Skolelinux had two representatives at an early Edubuntu meeting in
4163 London which I attended. However at that time our school network had
4164 just been installed using CentOS, LTSP
4 and GNOME. When LTSP
5 came
4165 along we switched to Edubuntu thin client servers so now we have a
4166 mixed environment which includes Windows PCs and student laptops, as
4167 well as their MacBooks and iPads. However, the proprietary systems
4168 have always been rather problematic, and we never built a GUI for the
4169 LDAP server, so when I discovered Skolelinux is configured for all
4170 these things we decided to try it.
</p
>
4172 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
4173 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
4175 <p
>By far the biggest advantage is the Debian Edu community. Apart
4176 from that I have always believed in the same
"sustainable computing
"
4177 goals that Skolelinux is built on: installing Linux on computers which
4178 would otherwise be thrown away, to provide a reliable, secure and
4179 low-cost IT environment for schools. From my own experience I know
4180 that a part-time person can teach and manage a network of about
25
4181 Linux computers, but it would take much more of my time if we had
4182 proprietary software everywhere.
</p
>
4184 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
4185 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
4187 <p
>As a newcomer I
'm just finding out who
's who in the community and
4188 how you
're organised, and what your procedures are for dealing with
4189 various things such as editing manual pages and so-on. The only
4190 English language mailing list seems to be for developers as well as
4191 users, so my inbox needs heavy pruning each day!
</p
>
4193 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
4195 <p
>Besides the software already mentioned at school we use Samba,
4196 OpenLDAP, CUPS, Nagios and Dansguardian for the network, and on the
4197 desktops we have LibreOffice, Firefox, GIMP and Inkscape. At home I
4198 use Ubuntu and an Android
4 eePad Transformer (but I
'm not sure if
4199 that counts...)
</p
>
4201 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
4202 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
4204 <p
>That
's a tough question! For very many years UK schools installed
4205 and taught only proprietary software, so that at the highest levels
4206 the notion of
"computer
" means simply
"proprietary office
4207 applications
". However, schools today are experiencing budget
4208 constraints, and many are having to think hard about upgrading Windows
4209 XP. At the same time, we have students showing teachers how to use
4210 iPads, MacBooks and Android, so the choice of operating system is no
4211 longer quite so automatic. What is more, our government at last
4212 realised that we need people with programming skills, so they
're
4213 putting coding back in the curriculum! And it
's encouraging that the
4214 first
10,
000 Raspberry Pi units sold out in
2 hours.
</p
>
4216 <p
>I don
't really know what strategy is going to get UK schools to use
4217 free software, but building an active community of Skolelinux/Debian
4218 Edu users in this country has to be part of it.
</p
>
4223 <title>Writing and translating documentation in Debian Edu
</title>
4224 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Writing_and_translating_documentation_in_Debian_Edu.html
</link>
4225 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Writing_and_translating_documentation_in_Debian_Edu.html
</guid>
4226 <pubDate>Fri,
16 Mar
2012 09:
55:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4227 <description><p
>Documentation in Debian Edu is provided in several languages, and
4228 it is important to make it both easy to contribute and to keep the
4229 translated versions in sync. To do this we have come up with what we
4230 believe is a very efficient work flow.
</p
>
4234 <li
>The documentation is written in a
4235 <a href=
"http://moinmo.in
">moinmoin wiki
</a
> (see for example
4236 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze
">the
4237 Squeeze release manual
</a
>) with support for exporting the content as
4238 docbook XML.
</li
>
4240 <li
>This docbook document is given to po4a to extract a gettext style
4241 .pot file with the content, which in turn is used to create .po files
4242 with the translated text.
</li
>
4244 <li
>The .po files are given to translators, and they can always tell
4245 which part of the original wiki document is new or changed. They can
4246 use their normal translation tools like lokalize or poedit to write
4247 the translation. There is even a system in place to handle translated
4250 <li
>The translated .po files are combined with the original docbook
4251 XML document using po4a to create a translated docbook document.
</li
>
4253 <li
>The final step is to use all the generated docbook files and
4254 create PDF and HTML version of the original and translated documents.
</li
>
4258 <p
>This setup work very well, but have a few issues. The biggest
4259 issue is that
<a href=
"http://moinmo.in/DocBook
">the docbook support
4260 we use in moinmoin
</a
> is not actively maintained. The docbook
4261 support is also buggy, and our build system contain workarounds to
4262 make sure the generated docbook is usable despite these bugs.
</p
>
4264 <p
>If you want to have a look at our setup, it is all there in the
4265 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/debian-edu-doc
">debian-edu-doc
4266 package
</a
>.
</p
>
4271 <title>NUUG-presentasjon: Skolelinux - ferdig oppsatt skolenettløsning
</title>
4272 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/NUUG_presentasjon__Skolelinux___ferdig_oppsatt_skolenettl_sning.html
</link>
4273 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/NUUG_presentasjon__Skolelinux___ferdig_oppsatt_skolenettl_sning.html
</guid>
4274 <pubDate>Tue,
13 Mar
2012 23:
55:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4275 <description><p
>I dag presenterte jeg ny versjon av Skolelinux for NUUGs medlemmer.
4276 <a href=
"http://www.hungry.com/~pere/mypapers/
20120313-skolelinux-squeeze.html
">Lysark
</a
>
4277 er tilgjengelige allerede og
4278 <a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/
20120313-skolelinux/
">video-opptak
</a
>
4279 kommer så snart videogruppa til NUUG får publisert den. Jeg kom på
4280 endel punkter om nye ting i Squeeze-utgaven under veis som jeg burde
4281 hatt med, og har sikkert skrevet noe tull på lysarkene som jeg ennå
4282 ikke har oppdaget. Denne presentasjonen ble smurt ihop på veldig kort
4283 tid, og jeg rakk ikke finpusse den. Håper den kan være lærerik
4289 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Kåre Nordby
</title>
4290 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__K_re_Nordby.html
</link>
4291 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__K_re_Nordby.html
</guid>
4292 <pubDate>Mon,
12 Mar
2012 21:
10:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4293 <description><p
>Første ut i serien med intervjuer av folk i
4294 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>-miljøet etter at
4295 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/
2012/
03/msg00001.html
">ny
4296 versjon av Skolelinux
</a
> ble lansert i helga, er nylig valgte
4297 styremedlem i foreningen
4298 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">Fri programvare i
4299 Skolen
</a
> (FRiSK) som organiserer
4300 Skolelinux-utviklingen og daglig leder i
4301 <a href=
"http://www.slxdrift.no/
">Skolelinux Drift AS
</a
>, selskapet
4302 prosjektet opprettet som et tilbud til skoler som ønsket en
4303 kommersiell samarbeidsparter. Det bør nevnes at jeg er styremedlem i
4304 Skolelinux Drift AS og styreleder i selskapets hovedeier stiftelsen
4305 <a href=
"http://www.linuxiskolen.no/slxdebianlabs/
">SLX Debian Labs
</a
>
4306 som beskytter verdiene til Skolelinux-prosjektet, og kjenner Kåre den
4309 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
4311 <p
>Jeg har siden januar
2010 vært daglig leder i Skolelinux Drift AS,
4312 som leverer support, installasjon, tilpasning, drift, og opplæring på
4313 Debian Edu / Skolelinux. Fra
2012 er jeg valgt inn som styremedlem i
4314 FRiSK. Min forrige jobb var som KAM i Redpill Linpro (som er en av
4315 eierne i Skolelinux Drift). Før det var jeg daglig leder i et eget
7
4316 manns konsulent selskap som også startet med fri programvare mot
4319 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
4321 <p
>Jeg hørte om det først når jeg jobbet i Redpill Linpro. Men jeg
4322 har også en datter som går på en friskole, som også bruker Skolelinux.
4323 Som kjent har ikke friskoler de samme økonomiske rammebetingelsene som
4324 offentlige skoler, så for dem var det det absolutt beste alternativet.
4325 De anser også Skolelinux som et stabilt system, som bare går og går (i
4326 motsetning til det lille Windows-baserte nettverket de har på
4327 admin-siden).
</p
>
4329 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
4331 <p
>Sentralisert drift av tynne og diskløse arbeidsstasjoner. Således
4332 lydløse og raskere arbeidsstasjoner som er bedre i klasserommet.
4333 Lengre levetid på PC
'er. Store besparelser på maskinvare og drift. Og
4334 så klart fjerning av alle lisenskostnader. Personlig synes jeg også at
4335 mange av programmene er bedre enn alternativene. Men dette er ofte en
4336 smakssak og avhengig om man må ha det man er vant til fra før.
</p
>
4338 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
4340 <p
>For lite kjentskap til løsningen. Noen ganger for dårlig
4341 kompatibilitet med arbeidsstasjoners/bærbare maskiner sine
4342 nettverksdrivere eller skjermkort. Men dette løser vi i skolene ved
4343 standardisering. Ellers er det få, om nesten ingen, av de kjente
4344 maskinvare / infrastruktur leverandørene til fylkes- / kommuner som
4345 tilbyr denne plattformen. Skal dette endre seg så må kommunene selv
4346 sette slike krav til leverandørene.
</p
>
4348 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
4350 <p
>Har brukt OpenOffice.org siden starten (
2001 ?), Kun Linux på
4351 desktop siden
2005. Bruker i dag Kubuntu, Libreoffice og ymse annet
4352 programvare til ulik kontorbruk som er lett å installere / teste via
4353 alle programarkivene som finnes.
</p
>
4355 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
4356 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
4358 <p
>Fortsette å presentere flere av de gode eksemplene hvor Debian Edu
4359 / Skolelinux brukes i kommuner og enkeltskoler. Vi må få bedre frem
4360 at det er mulig tilknytte både Windows og Mac klienter på denne
4361 plattformen (selv om det vil øke driftskostnadene). Dette gjøres
4362 mange steder. Spesielt er det mange lærere som ønsker å bruke
4363 Windows/Mac-bærbare, gjerne som sin private PC også. Det er også mulig
4364 for kommunen å integrere med Active Directory i stedet for OpenLDAP
4365 som kommer med ut av boksen (selv om også dette øker kostnadene).
4366 Dette vil muligens bidra til å fjerne noe motstand hos noen
4367 potensielle brukere / driftpersonell for å ta i bruk noe
4368 nytt. Fremveksten av mobile brukere og nettbrett går i vår favør.
4369 Brukerne blir kjent og vant til flere nye operativsystemer /
4370 brukergrensesnitt. Så utviklerfellesskapet bør jobbe videre med å
4371 integrere flere nye klienttyper, som ultra lav-kostklienter og
4372 nettbrett (blant annet fri programvare-alternativet
4373 <a href=
"http://makeplaylive.com/
">Spark
</a
> med
4374 <a href=
"http://www.merproject.org/
">Mer OS
</a
> og
4375 <a href=
"http://plasma-active.org/
">KDE Active Plasma
</a
>).
</p
>
4380 <title>Skolelinux / Debian Edu Squeeze is out!
</title>
4381 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux___Debian_Edu_Squeeze_is_out_.html
</link>
4382 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux___Debian_Edu_Squeeze_is_out_.html
</guid>
4383 <pubDate>Sun,
11 Mar
2012 23:
00:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4384 <description><p
>This weekend we finally published the first stable release of
4385 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux / Debian Edu
</a
> based
4386 on Debian/Squeeze. The full announcement is
4387 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/
2012/
03/msg00001.html
">available
</a
>
4388 from the project announcement list. Now is a good time to test if it
4389 you have not done so already.
</p
>
4391 <p
>I plan to present the new version at
4392 <a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/
20120313-skolelinux/
">a NUUG
4393 meeting
</a
> on tuesday. I look forward to seeing you there if you are
4394 in Oslo, Norway.
</p
>
4399 <title>Debian Edu interview: Nigel Barker
</title>
4400 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Nigel_Barker.html
</link>
4401 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Nigel_Barker.html
</guid>
4402 <pubDate>Fri,
9 Mar
2012 11:
30:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4403 <description><p
>Inspired by
<a href=
"http://raphaelhertzog.com/tag/interview/
">the
4404 interview series
</a
> conducted by Raphael, I started a Norwegian
4405 interview series with people involved in the Debian Edu / Skolelinux
4406 community. This was so popular that I believe it is time to move to a
4407 more international audience.
</p
>
4409 <p
>While
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu and
4410 Skolelinux
</a
> originated in France and Norway, and have most users in
4411 Europe, there are users all around the globe. One of those far away
4412 from me is Nigel Barker, a long time Debian Edu system administrator
4413 and contributor. It is thanks to him that Debian Edu is adjusted to
4414 work out of the box in Japan. I got him to answer a few questions,
4415 and am happy to share the response with you. :)
4418 <p
><strong
>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong
></p
>
4420 <p
>My name is Nigel Barker, and I am British. I am married to Yumiko,
4421 and we have three lovely children, aged
15,
14 and
4(!) I am the IT
4422 Coordinator at Hiroshima International School, Japan. I am also a
4423 teacher, and in fact I spend most of my day teaching Mathematics,
4424 Science, IT, and Chemistry. I was originally a Chemistry teacher, but
4425 I have always had an interest in computers. Another teacher teaches
4426 primary school IT, but apart from that I am the only computer person,
4427 so that means I am the network manager, technician and webmaster,
4428 also, and I help people with their computer problems. I teach python
4429 to beginners in an after-school club. I am way too busy, so I really
4430 appreciate the simplicity of Skolelinux.
</p
>
4432 <p
><strong
>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
4433 project?
</strong
></p
>
4435 <p
>In around
2004 or
5 I discovered the ltsp project, and set up a
4436 server in the IT lab. I wanted some way to connect it to our central
4437 samba server, which I was also quite poor at configuring. I discovered
4438 Edubuntu when it came out, but it didn
't really improve my setup. I
4439 did various desperate searches for things like
"school Linux server
"
4440 and ended up in a document called
"Drift
" something or other. Reading
4441 there it became clear that Skolelinux was going to solve all my
4442 problems in one go. I was very excited, but apprehensive, because my
4443 previous attempts to install Debian had ended in failure (I used
4444 Mandrake for everything - ltsp, samba, apache, mail, ns...). I
4445 downloaded a beta version, had some problems, so subscribed to the
4446 Debian Edu list for help. I have remained subscribed ever since, and
4447 my school has run a Skolelinux network since Sarge.
</p
>
4449 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
4450 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
4452 <p
>For me the integrated setup. This is not just the server, or the
4453 workstation, or the ltsp. Its all of them, and its all configured
4454 ready to go. I read somewhere in the early documentation that it is
4455 designed to be setup and managed by the Maths or Science teacher, who
4456 doesn
't necessarily know much about computers, in a small Norwegian
4457 school. That describes me perfectly if you replace Norway with
4460 <p
><strong
>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
4461 Edu?
</strong
></p
>
4463 <p
>The desktop is fairly plain. If you compare it with Edubuntu, who
4464 have fun themes for children, or with distributions such as Mint, who
4465 make the desktop beautiful. They create a good impression on people
4466 who don
't need to understand how to use any of it, but who might be
4467 important to the school. School administrators or directors, for
4468 instance, or parents. Even kids. Debian itself usually has ugly
4469 default theme settings. It was my dream a few years back that some
4470 kind of integration would allow Edubuntu to do the desktop stuff and
4471 Debian Edu the servers, but now I realise how impossible that is. A
4472 second disadvantage is that if something goes wrong, or you need to
4473 customise something, then suddenly the level of expertise required
4474 multiplies. For example, backup wasn
't working properly in Lenny. It
4475 took me ages to learn how to set up my own server to do rsync backups.
4476 I am afraid of anything to do with ldap, but perhaps Gosa will
4479 <p
><strong
>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong
></p
>
4481 <p
>Nowadays I only use Debian on my personal computers. I have one for
4482 studio work (I play guitar and write songs), running AV Linux
4483 (customised Debian) a netbook running Squeeze, and a bigger laptop
4484 still running Skolelinux Lenny workstation. I have a Tjener in my
4485 house, that
's very useful for the family photos and music. At school
4486 the students only use Skolelinux. (Some teachers and the office still
4487 have windows). So that means we only use free software all day every
4488 day. Open office, The GIMP, Firefox/Iceweasel, VLC and Audacity are
4489 installed on every computer in school, irrespective of OS. We also
4490 have Koha on Debian for the library, and Apache, Moodle, b2evolution
4491 and Etomite on Debian for the www. The firewall is Untangle.
</p
>
4493 <p
><strong
>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
4494 get schools to use free software?
</strong
></p
>
4496 <p
>Current trends are in our favour. Open source is big in industry,
4497 and ordinary people have heard of it. The spread of Android and the
4498 popularity of Apple have helped to weaken the impression that you have
4499 to have Microsoft on everything. People complain to me much less about
4500 file formats and Word than they did
5 years ago. The Edu aspect is
4501 also a selling point. This is all customised for schools. Where is the
4502 Windows-edu, or the Mac-edu? But of course the main attraction is
4503 budget.The trick is to convince people that the quality is not
4504 compromised when you stop paying and use free software instead. That
4505 is one reason why I say the desktop experience is a weakness. People
4506 are not impressed when their USB drive doesn
't work, or their browser
4507 doesn
't play flash, for example.
</p
>
4512 <title>Debian Edu screencast: Mass creation of user accounts in Squeeze
</title>
4513 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_screencast__Mass_creation_of_user_accounts_in_Squeeze.html
</link>
4514 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_screencast__Mass_creation_of_user_accounts_in_Squeeze.html
</guid>
4515 <pubDate>Wed,
7 Mar
2012 13:
40:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4516 <description><!-- Video HTML based on http://www.diveintohtml5.net/video.html --
>
4518 <p
>One of the Debian Edu developers, Wolfgang Schweer, just created a
4519 screen cast documenting how to create a lot of new users in LDAP on
4520 Debian Edu Squeeze. The video is embedded here in quarter size, and
4521 also available from
<a href=
"http://vimeo.com/
37675399">vimeo
</a
> and
4523 <a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/press/screencasts/
2012-
02-
29-debian_edu_mass_create_user_accounts.ogv
">Ogg
4524 Theora
</a
> file. Check it out below.
</p
>
4526 <p
><video id=
"gosa-mass-user-create-movie
" width=
"256" height=
"184" preload controls
>
4527 <source src=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/press/screencasts/
2012-
02-
29-debian_edu_mass_create_user_accounts.ogv
" type=
'video/ogg; codecs=
"theora, vorbis
"' /
>
4528 <p
>Download video as
4529 <a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/press/screencasts/
2012-
02-
29-debian_edu_mass_create_user_accounts.ogv
">Ogg
</a
>.
</p
>
4530 </video
></p
>
4535 <title>Third release candidate of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Squeeze
</title>
4536 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Third_release_candidate_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Squeeze.html
</link>
4537 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Third_release_candidate_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Squeeze.html
</guid>
4538 <pubDate>Sun,
4 Mar
2012 18:
20:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4539 <description><p
>This weekend we wrapped up and published the third release
4540 candidate for
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu /
4541 Skolelinux
</a
> based on Squeeze. The full announcement is
4542 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/
2012/
03/msg00000.html
">available
</a
>
4543 from the project announcement list. Check it out if you
4544 need a software solution for your school.
</p
>
4549 <title>Stopmotion for making stop motion animations on Linux - reloaded
</title>
4550 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Stopmotion_for_making_stop_motion_animations_on_Linux___reloaded.html
</link>
4551 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Stopmotion_for_making_stop_motion_animations_on_Linux___reloaded.html
</guid>
4552 <pubDate>Sat,
3 Mar
2012 12:
50:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4553 <description><p
>Many years ago, the
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
4554 / Debian Edu project
</a
> initiated a student project to create a tool
4555 for making stop motion movies. The proposal came from a teacher
4556 needing such tool on Skolelinux. The project, called
"stopmotion
",
4557 was manned by two extraordinary students and won a school award and a
4558 national aware with this great project. The project was initiated and
4559 mentored by Herman Robak, and manned by the students Bjørn Erik Nilsen
4560 and Fredrik Berg Kjølstad. They got in touch with people at Aardman
4561 Animation studio and received feedback on how professionals would like
4562 such stopmotion tool to work, and the end result was and is used by
4563 animators around the globe. But as is usual after studying, both got
4564 jobs and went elsewhere, and did not have time to properly tend to the
4565 project, and it has been lingering for a few years now. Until last
4568 <p
>Last year some of the users got together with Herman, and moved the
4569 project to Sourceforge and in effect restarted the project under a new
4571 <a href=
"http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxstopmotion/
">linuxstopmotion
</a
>.
4572 The name change was done to make it possible to find the project using
4573 Internet search engines (try to search for
'stopmotion
' to see what I
4574 mean). I
've been following
4575 <a href=
"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxstopmotion-community
">the
4576 mailing list
</a
> and the improvement already in place and planned for
4577 the future is encouraging. If you want to make stop motion movies.
4578 Check it out. :)
</p
>
4583 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Frode Danielsen
</title>
4584 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Frode_Danielsen.html
</link>
4585 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Frode_Danielsen.html
</guid>
4586 <pubDate>Mon,
27 Feb
2012 14:
35:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4587 <description><p
>I serien med intervjuer av folk i
4588 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>-miljøet møter vi
4589 denne gangen Frode Danielsen, som er leder for en IT-virksomhet som
4590 passer på IT-løsningen til flere kommuner i Hedmark-området, der noen
4591 av dem bruker Skolelinux i dag.
</p
>
4593 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
4595 <p
>Daglig leder i
<a href=
"http://www.hedmarken-ikt.no/
">Hedmark
4596 IKT
</a
>. En interkommunal IKT-virksomhet for Stange, Nord-Odal,
4597 Kongsvinger, Grue, Løten og Hamar kommuner. Vi er
32 ansatte
</p
>
4599 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
4601 <p
>Vi har vært i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet i flere
4602 sammenhenger, blant annet gjennom et par piloter som ikke har ført til
4603 noe konkret resultat. Nå sist gjennom satsingen på skolelinux i Grue,
4604 Kongsvinger og Nord-Odal.
</p
>
4606 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
>
4607 <br
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
4609 <p
>Jeg tror alle løsninger har fordeler og ulemper, litt avhengig av
4610 hvilket ståsted du selv har, så jeg unnlater å svare på dette.
</p
>
4612 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
4614 <p
>Ingen for min egen del, men vi har noe fri programvare i våre
4615 løsninger.
</p
>
4617 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
4618 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
4620 <p
>Jeg tror ikke man skal ha en slik strategi. Man bør ha en strategi
4621 basert på å løse fremtidige behov, og velge løsninger som støtter opp
4622 under dette.
</p
>
4627 <title>Second release candidate of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Squeeze
</title>
4628 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Second_release_candidate_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Squeeze.html
</link>
4629 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Second_release_candidate_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Squeeze.html
</guid>
4630 <pubDate>Mon,
27 Feb
2012 14:
00:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4631 <description><p
>This weekend we wrapped up and published the second release
4632 candidate for
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu /
4633 Skolelinux
</a
> based on Squeeze. The full announcement did for some
4634 reason not make it the project announcement list, but is
4635 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/
2012/
02/msg00015.html
">available
</a
>
4636 from the Debian development announcement list. Check it out if you
4637 need a software solution for your school.
</p
>
4642 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Knut Yrvin
</title>
4643 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Knut_Yrvin.html
</link>
4644 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Knut_Yrvin.html
</guid>
4645 <pubDate>Tue,
21 Feb
2012 07:
40:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4646 <description><p
>I serien med intervjuer av folk i
4647 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>-miljøet, får vi nå
4648 høre fra nyvalgt leder i foreningen
4649 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">Fri programvare i
4650 Skolen
</a
> og en av stifterne av Skolelinux-prosjektet.
</p
>
4652 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
4654 <p
>Knut Yrvin her. Jobber i Nokia med å fremme rammeverket Qt og QML
4655 med tilhørende utviklerverktøy. Rollen er som leder av
4656 friprog-samfunn. I fjor var jeg med å legge om utviklingen av Qt til
4657 åpen forvaltning. På den måten kan alle som bidrar til Qt gjøre det
4658 på like vilkår. Nå er det
4659 <a href=
"http://labs.qt.nokia.com/
2011/
12/
22/qt-
5-%E2%
80%
93-a-look-back-at-the-numbers/
">over
4660 1000 utviklere
</a
> som bidrar til Qt. Med overgangen til åpen
4661 forvaltning er utviklingen av Qt mer åpen enn Linux-kjernen.
</p
>
4663 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
4665 <p
>Jeg var en av initiativtagerne til Skolelinux i
2001. Skolene slet
4666 med både utstyr og Internett-tilgang. De klarte ikke å møte
4667 forventningene til data i skolen. Driften av PC-ene var uholdbar. Som
4668 regel hadde rektor pekt ut en ivrig lærer til å passe på PC-ene,
4669 gjerne naturfaglæreren. Mange lærere jobbet mye ubetalt overtid for å
4670 vedlikeholde
30-
40 datamaskiner på hver sin skole. Med
300 elever og
4671 lærere som brukere, blir det fort mye mer arbeid enn de
4-
8 timene de
4672 kunne bruke på PC-drift. Skolene hadde kun en femtedel av
4673 IT-budsjettet som ble brukt på PC-ene i rådhuset.
</p
>
4675 <p
>Vi erfarte at skolene hadde mye datautstyr som stod ubrukt. Skolene
4676 manglet penger til Microsoft-lisenser. Selv med solide skolerabatter,
4677 kostet Microsoft-lisensene gjerne like mye som PC-ene i seg selv over
4678 en periode på
5-
6 år.
</p
>
4680 <p
>Viktigheten av språklig mangfold og pedagogiske programmer var også
4681 viktig for oss. Vi oversatte mange skoleaktuelle programmer til
4682 nynorsk, nordsamisk og bokmål. Dette lenge før andre tok denne
4683 oppgaven seriøst. Allerede etter ett år hadde vi etablert et helt
4684 arsenal av skoleaktuelle programmer på nynorsk, bokmål og
4685 nordsamisk. Vi spredde vår ide om språklig mangfold til de andre frie
4686 prosjekter internasjonalt. Resultatene ser vi i mange land. Det er de
4687 frie programmene som kommer på brukernes morsmål. Det er en av flere
4688 gode grunner til at fri programvare som LibreOffice, VLC, KDE og
4689 Firefox konkurrerer ut godseid programvare mange steder i verden.
</p
>
4691 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
4693 <p
>Fordelene er at Skolelinux tilbyr over
100 skoleaktuelle programmer
4694 på de norske språkene, uten ett øre i lisenskostnader. Systemet gir
4695 enormt lave driftskostnader med diskløse arbeidsstasjoner og bærbare
4696 med roaming. Skolelinux krever også mindre av maskinvaren.
</p
>
4698 <p
>Man kan fint kjøre systemet med
512 MB RAM på en bærbar PC sammen
4699 med en nettvideo i nettleseren og en presentasjon med
4700 LibreOffice. Konkurrerende system krever fort
2 GB RAM for å få til
4701 noe tilsvarende uten at det går ufattelig tregt. Skal man gjøre noe
4702 nyttig, krever konkurrentene til Linux mye større harddisk. Skoler har
4703 rapportert at de fort har fått
50% flere nye maskiner om de velger
4704 Linux. Dette i tillegg til de årlige besparelsene ved å unngå
4705 lisensbetaling til godseid programvare.
</p
>
4707 <p
>De lave driftskostnadene gjør at delstater i Europa har titusener
4708 av datamaskiner med Skolelinux i skolen. F.eks. er det under ti
4709 personer som drifter
70.000 PC-systemer i skolene i Extremadura i
4710 Spania. Det er slett ikke uvanlig at norske kommuner har
1500-
2000
4711 datamaskiner med Skolelinux. Driften tar ett årsverk. Slår flere
4712 kommuner seg sammen, kan de få samme sentraliserte stordriftsfordeler
4713 som delstater i Tyskland og Spania. Delstater som kjører Skolelinux
4714 på alle skolene. Bare noen få personer sentraldrifter titusenvis av
4717 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
4719 <p
>Den største ulempen for Skolelinux er motstand mot Linux fra
4720 IT-sjefer i det offentlige. Dette er ledere som holder innlegg som
4721 snytt ut av evangelist-håndboka til Microsoft. Dette gjøres i ett
4722 arbeidsmarked med stor vekst i etterspørselen etter Linux-fagfolk i
4723 privat sektor. Etterspørselen har økt mer enn noe annet tekniske yrke
4724 siste tiåret. Åtte av ti ledere vil ansette Linux-fagfolk i
2012,
4725 rapporterer jobbnettstedet Dice.com på oppdrag av Linux
4726 Foundation.
</p
>
4728 <p
>Det mangler
16.000 ingeniører og IKT-fagfolk i Norge rapporterte
4729 arbeids- og velferdsetaten NAV. Linux-fagfolk kan velge svært
4730 interessante jobber med alt fra apps på ledende mobilsystem laget med
4731 Linux, sky- tjenester eller web-applikasjoner. De raskest voksende
4732 teknologiselskapene i verden er ute etter Linux-fagfolk. Det være seg
4733 Amazon, Google, Facebook og IBM for å nevne noen. Linux er kritisk
4734 for å sikre veksten i markedet. Det sier seg selv at lønningene og
4735 jobbmulighetene er bedre enn for andre tekniske yrker.
</p
>
4737 <p
>Skal man lage apps for mobilen, smart-TV-en eller
4738 underholdningssystemet i bilen eller på flyet, er det Linux som
4739 gjelder. Med en slik konkurranse om Linux-kompetansen, kombinert med
4740 motstanden mot Linux hos mange IT-sjefer i offentlig sektor, så
4741 hindrer kommunene rekruttering av flere Linux- fagfolk. Skolene blir
4742 tvunget til å velge dyrere og mindre komplette IT-system. De har
4743 blitt hengende igjen slik IT var på begynnelsen av
2000- tallet. Dette
4744 fordi IT-ledere ikke har tilpasset seg markedet det siste tiåret.
</p
>
4746 <p
>Når det er sagt, er Skolelinux svært enkelt å lære seg også for de
4747 som ikke kan. Det viser alle lærerne som drifter systemet for
4748 hundrevis og tusenvis av systemer. Det meste er på plass rett ut av
4749 boksen. I tillegg er det solid med dokumentasjon med god hjelp på
4750 nettet. Det er mange kommuner som har ansatt en lærer som først lærte
4751 Skolelinux på sin skole, for så å drifte alle PC-ene i kommunen med
4752 Skolelinux. Det kan fort være snakk om
1000-
3000 datamaskiner på
10-
15
4753 skoler som sentraldriftes med en stilling. Står man ordentlig fast,
4754 kan man også kjøpe profesjonell hjelp fra selskap som støtter
4755 Skolelinux. Det er flere slike selskap i Norge og i utlandet.
</p
>
4757 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
4759 <p
>Qt SDK, LibreOffice, Firefox, VLC og KDE-skrivebordet. Dette på et
4760 Debian-basert GNU/Linux-system. Jeg bruker også noen morsomme
4761 3D-spill. Idag kan jeg velge mellom over
30.000 Linux-programmer. Det
4762 finnes ikke tid i livet å undersøke alle valgmulighetene. Derfor er
4763 det bra med Skolelinux i skolen, da utvalget av programmer er
4764 begrenset til hva som er aktuelt i skolefagene.
</p
>
4766 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
4767 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
4769 <p
>Vi må selge hele Skolelinux forhåndsinstallert på maskinvare i hele
4770 pakker med
50-
100-
1000 PC-klienter med servere. Dette kan selges til
4771 enkeltskoler eller hele kommuner. Pakken må inneholde tjenermaskiner,
4772 svært rimelige diskløse arbeidsstasjoner, nettbrett med Plasma Active,
4773 og bærbare med roaming. Alt er godt testet med Debian. I et slikt
4774 anbud er det mulig å legge til sentraliserte drifts- og
4775 støttetjenester.
</p
>
4777 <p
>Man bør også selge sky-tjenester som læreadministrative systemet
4778 Moodle og driftsovervåking. I tillegg så bør man slenge seg på med
4779 presentasjoner de gangene LibreOffice og andre friprog-produkter
4780 selges til kommuner.
</p
>
4785 <title>First release candidate of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Squeeze
</title>
4786 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_release_candidate_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Squeeze.html
</link>
4787 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_release_candidate_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Squeeze.html
</guid>
4788 <pubDate>Sun,
19 Feb
2012 23:
10:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4789 <description><p
>One week delayed due to DVD build problems, we managed today to
4790 wrap up and publish the first release candidate for
4791 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a
> based
4792 on Squeeze. The full announcement is
4793 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/
2012/
02/msg00001.html
">available
</a
>
4794 on the project announcement list. Check it out if you need a software
4795 solution for your school.
</p
>
4800 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Olav Dahlum
</title>
4801 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Olav_Dahlum.html
</link>
4802 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Olav_Dahlum.html
</guid>
4803 <pubDate>Sat,
18 Feb
2012 10:
40:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4804 <description><p
>I serien med intervjuer av folk i
4805 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>-miljøet, får vi nå
4806 høre fra et nyvalgt medlem i foreningen
4807 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">Fri programvare i
4808 Skolen
</a
>.
</p
>
4810 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
4812 <p
>Jeg heter Olav Dahlum, og er frilans oversetter, tester,
4813 prosjektleder og bruker av fri og åpen programvare som
4814 LibreOffice. Jeg er også et av styremedlemmene i FRISK.
</p
>
4816 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
4818 <p
>Jeg kom i kontakt med prosjektet i
2009, da jeg ble ansatt i
4819 stiftelsen Åpne kontorprogram på norsk for å oversette og teste den
4820 norske utgaven av OpenOffice.org. Arbeidet har hele tiden vært
4821 koordinert sammen med Skolelinux, og mange av de samme menneskene er
4822 involvert, så på den måten ble jeg en del av den utvidede
4825 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
4827 <p
>Skolelinux handler i likhet med utdanningssektoren om å dele
4828 kunnskap med andre, og det er dette som er hovedstyrken til
4829 prosjektet. Selv om Skolelinux hovedsaklig er involvert i utvikling
4830 av programvare, er det også et sted der man kan utfolde seg uavhengig
4831 av bakgrunn og ferdigheter.
</p
>
4833 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
4835 <p
>Liten utbredelse og manglende støtte fra leverandører som leverer
4836 pedagogisk programvare til skolebruk. Kunne kanskje hatt flere
4837 verktøy som letter administrasjonen ytterligere, slik at også mindre
4838 erfarne databrukere kan utføre lett vedlikehold og rutinejobber.
</p
>
4840 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
4842 <p
>Jeg er nesten forpliktet til å si at jeg bruker LibreOffice... Jeg
4843 bruker forøvrig frie og åpne operativsystemer basert på
4844 operativsystemkjernen Linux, for tiden openSUSE
12,
1 med KDE4. Men
4845 hvis jeg skal dra fram noen flere eksempler så er nok Mozilla Firefox
4846 og Thunderbird to av de jeg bruker mest. I tillegg er jeg en flittig
4847 bruker av OpenSSH, Irssi, Midnight Commander, Git, Subversion,
4848 Translation Toolkit og Super Maryo Chronicles (litt gøy skal man ha,
4849 og med to håndkontroller liggende er det ikke til å unngå).
</p
>
4851 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
4852 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
4854 <p
>Vi må få leverandører av pedagogisk programvare med på laget, men
4855 også utvikle vår egen tilpasset det norske markedet. Det er også
4856 mulig å involvere utdanningssektoren direkte i arbeidet, for eksempel
4857 gjennom studentprosjekter der elevene selv er med å utforme
4858 programvare direkte eller indirekte gjennom aktive bidrag. Dette gjør
4859 ikke bare samarbeidet tettere, men fokuset på standarder og friheten
4860 til å velge sin egen løsning vil kanskje stimulere interessen for
4861 framtidig deltakelse i bransjen. Vi som driver med fri og åpen
4862 programvare ønsker oss ikke rene konsumenter, men tenkende og
4863 selvstendige individer som kan være med å skape sin egen fremtid.
</p
>
4868 <title>Automatic proxy configuration with Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</title>
4869 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_proxy_configuration_with_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux.html
</link>
4870 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_proxy_configuration_with_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux.html
</guid>
4871 <pubDate>Mon,
13 Feb
2012 23:
40:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4872 <description><p
>New in the Squeeze version of
4873 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a
> is the
4874 ability for clients to automatically configure their proxy settings
4875 based on their environment. We want all systems on the client to use
4876 the WPAD based proxy definition fetched from
<tt
>http://wpad/wpad.dat
</tt
>, to
4877 allow sites to control the proxy setting from a central place and make
4878 sure clients do not have hard coded proxy settings. The schools can
4879 change the global proxy setting by editing
4880 <tt
>tjener:/etc/debian-edu/www/wpad.dat
</tt
> and the change propagate
4881 to all Debian Edu clients in the network.
</p
>
4883 <p
>The problem is that some systems do not understand the WPAD system.
4884 In other words, how do one get from a WPAD file like this (this is a
4885 simple one, they can run arbitrary code):
</p
>
4887 <blockquote
><pre
>
4888 function FindProxyForURL(url, host)
4890 if (!isResolvable(host) ||
4891 isPlainHostName(host) ||
4892 dnsDomainIs(host,
".intern
"))
4893 return
"DIRECT
";
4895 return
"PROXY webcache:
3128; DIRECT
";
4897 </pre
></blockquote
>
4899 <p
>to a proxy setting in the process environment looking like this:
</p
>
4901 <blockquote
><pre
>
4902 http_proxy=http://webcache:
3128/
4903 ftp_proxy=http://webcache:
3128/
4904 </pre
></blockquote
>
4906 <p
>To do this conversion I developed a perl script that will execute
4907 the javascript fragment in the WPAD file and return the proxy that
4909 <tt
><a href=
"http://www.debian.org/
">http://www.debian.org/
</a
></tt
>,
4910 and insert this extracted proxy URL in
<tt
>/etc/environment
</tt
> and
4911 <tt
>/etc/apt/apt.conf
</tt
>. The perl script wpad-extract work just
4912 fine in Squeeze, but in Wheezy the library it need to run the
4913 javascript code is
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
631045">no longer
4914 able to build
</a
> because the C library it depended on is now a C++
4915 library. I hope someone find a solution to that problem before Wheezy
4916 is frozen. An alternative would be for us to rewrite wpad-extract to
4917 use some other javascript library currently working in Wheezy, but no
4918 known alternative is known at the moment.
</p
>
4920 <p
>This automatic proxy system allow the roaming workstation (aka
4921 laptop) setup in Debian Edu/Squeeze to use the proxy when the laptop
4922 is connected to the backbone network in a Debian Edu setup, and to
4923 automatically use any proxy present and announced using the WPAD
4924 feature when it is connected to other networks. And if no proxy is
4925 announced, direct connections will be used instead.
</p
>
4927 <p
>Silently using a proxy announced on the network might be a privacy
4928 or security problem. But those controlling DHCP and DNS on a network
4929 could just as easily set up a transparent proxy, and force all HTTP
4930 and FTP connections to use a proxy anyway, so I consider that
4931 distinction to be academic. If you are afraid of using the wrong
4932 proxy, you should avoid connecting to the network in question in the
4933 first place. In Debian Edu, the proxy setup is updated using dhcp and
4934 ifupdown hooks, to make sure the configuration is updated every time
4935 the network setup changes.
</p
>
4937 <p
>The WPAD system is documented in a
4938 <a href=
"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-wrec-wpad-
01">IETF
4939 draft
</a
> and a
4940 <a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Proxy_Autodiscovery_Protocol
">Wikipedia
4941 page
</a
> for those that want to learn more.
</p
>
4946 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Axel Bojer
</title>
4947 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Axel_Bojer.html
</link>
4948 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Axel_Bojer.html
</guid>
4949 <pubDate>Tue,
7 Feb
2012 14:
50:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
4950 <description><p
>I serien med intervjuer av folk i
4951 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>-miljøet har jeg
4952 fått en av oversetterne som har vært med siden starten i tale.
</p
>
4954 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
4956 <p
>Jeg heter Axel Bojer og er datalærer, tysklærer, oversetter med
4959 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
4961 <p
>Tror jeg så en annonsering på nettet i slutten av
2001 og ville
4962 være med som oversetter. Jeg kom med på en utviklersamling og
4963 prosjektet var da helt i starten. Det var spennende å være med mens
4964 prosjektet vokste til og utviklet seg.
</p
>
4966 <p
>Jeg har «alltid» vært språkinteressert og hadde nettopp startet med
4967 Linux og tror jeg tenkte det passet å bidra. Var også glad for å få
4968 en Debian-distribusjon, og ville gjerne bruke den selv. Til å begynne
4969 med brukte jeg først Mandrake og så Debian. Og siden jeg oppdaget at
4970 det ikke var noen mulighet for å bruke den som enkeltstående i lang
4971 tid, så gikk jeg etterhvert over til Kubuntu
</p
>
4973 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
4975 <p
>Løsningen er forholdsvis lett å sette opp, gratis, fri programvare
4976 og gjør det mulig å gjenbruke eldre maskiner. Det fine med Debian er
4977 at det er stabilt og har en veldig stor mengde programmer. Jeg liker
4978 også apt. :-) Jeg liker også friheten ved Linux og muligheten til å
4979 delta og forme sin egen datahverdag.
</p
>
4981 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
4983 <p
>Skolelinux er for lite kjent og for sent ute med å gi ut nye
4984 versjoner.
</p
>
4986 <p
>Da jeg selv i hovedsak bruker Kubuntu, så kan jeg egentlig ikke
4987 svare så detaljert rundt ulempene med Skolelinux. Hovedårsaken til at
4988 jeg bruker Kubuntu er nok at da vi begynte med det mener jeg det ikke
4989 var noen annen løsning. «Vandrende arbeidsstasjon» mener jeg ikke
4990 fantes da. Dessuten ville jeg ha siste versjon, da den KDE-versjonen
4991 som var i Skolelinux den gangen var en god del enklere (tror det var
4992 KDE
2) var dårligere i mine øyne enn versjon
3.
</p
>
4994 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
4996 <p
>Jeg bruker blant annet Kubuntu, LibreOffice, Thunderbird, Firefox,
4997 Kate,
<a href=
"http://comix.sourceforge.net/
">Comix
</a
> og Konsole. Og
4998 en hel haug andre ved behov :-)
</p
>
5000 <p
>Har oversatt Comix selv, men det er jo ikke skjedd noe med Comix
5001 siden
2009, så den er det nok bare jeg som har. Om andre vil ha den
5002 gir jeg den gjerne videre. Ser at noen har startet på
5003 <a href=
"http://mcomix.sourceforge.net/
">MComix
</a
> siden jeg så på så
5004 på dette sist, så nå er jeg igang med å teste og oversette den
5007 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
5008 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
5010 <p
>Det viktigste er å forankre beslutningen i kollegiet og med de som
5011 er ansvarlige for å vedlikeholde og bruke datamaskinene. Flest mulig
5012 bør være med på å holde det (sosialt) vedlike, kjenne og støtte
5013 prinsippene. Som enkeltmannsprosjekt blir det lett veldig sårbart,
5014 særlig når (Skole)linux ennå i stor grad er en motkultur og ikke noe
5015 en stor nok andel av beslutningstakere, brukere osv kjenner til og
5018 <p
>Jeg tror det viktigste er å fortsette å holde fri programvare godt,
5019 oppdatert, minimere antall feil, ha en god kontakt med brukerne og
5020 attraktivt og spennende programmer. Beholde alt som er bra og ha det
5021 tilgjengelig samtidig som man tilbyr det nyeste og rareste for de som
5022 vil ha det.
</p
>
5027 <title>Saving power with Debian Edu / Skolelinux using shutdown-at-night
</title>
5028 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Saving_power_with_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_using_shutdown_at_night.html
</link>
5029 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Saving_power_with_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_using_shutdown_at_night.html
</guid>
5030 <pubDate>Sun,
5 Feb
2012 09:
45:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
5031 <description><p
>Since the Lenny version of
5032 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a
>, a
5033 feature to save power have been included. It is as simple as it is
5034 practical: Shut down unused clients at night, and turn them on again
5035 in the morning. This is done using the
5036 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/shutdown-at-night.html
">shutdown-at-night
</a
> Debian package.
</p
>
5038 <p
>To enable this feature on a client, the machine need to be added to
5039 the netgroup shutdown-at-night-hosts. For Debian Edu, this is done in
5040 LDAP, and once this is in place, the machine in question will check
5041 every hour from
16:
00 until
06:
00 to see if the machine is unused, and
5042 shut it down if it is. If the hardware in question is supported by
5044 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/nvram-wakeup.html
">nvram-wakeup
</a
>
5045 package, the BIOS is told to turn the machine back on around
07:
00 +-
5046 10 minutes. If this isn
't working, one can configure wake-on-lan to
5047 try to turn on the client. The wake-on-lan option is only documented
5048 and not enabled by default in Debian Edu.
</p
>
5050 <p
>It is important to not turn all machines on at once, as this can
5051 blow a fuse if several computers are connected to the same fuse like
5052 the common setup for a classroom. The nvram-wakeup method only work
5053 for machines with a functioning hardware/BIOS clock. I
've seen old
5054 machines where the BIOS battery were dead and the hardware clock were
5055 starting from
0 (or was it
1990?) every boot. If you have one of
5056 those, you have to turn on the computer manually.
</p
>
5058 <p
>The shutdown-at-night package is completely self contained, and can
5059 also be used outside the Debian Edu environment. For those without a
5060 central LDAP server with netgroups, one can instead touch the file
5061 <tt
>/etc/shutdown-at-night/shutdown-at-night
</tt
> to enable it.
5062 Perhaps you too can use it to save some power?
</p
>
5067 <title>Third beta version of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Squeeze
</title>
5068 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Third_beta_version_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Squeeze.html
</link>
5069 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Third_beta_version_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Squeeze.html
</guid>
5070 <pubDate>Sat,
4 Feb
2012 13:
25:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
5071 <description><p
>I am happy to announce that finally we managed today to wrap up and
5072 publish the third beta version of
5073 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a
> based
5074 on Squeeze. If you want to test a LDAP backed Kerberos server with
5075 out of the box PXE configuration for running diskless machines and
5076 installing new machines, check it out. If you need a software
5077 solution for your school, check it out too. The full announcement is
5078 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/
2012/
02/msg00000.html
">available
</a
>
5079 on the project announcement list.
</p
>
5081 <p
>I am very happy to report these changes and improvements since
5082 beta2 (there are more, see announcement for full list):
</p
>
5086 <li
>It is now possible to change the pre-configured IP subnet from
5087 10.0.0.0/
8 to something else by using the subnet-change tool after
5088 the installation.
</li
>
5090 <li
>Too full partitions are now automatically extended on the Main
5091 Server, based on the rules specified in /etc/fsautoresizetab.
</li
>
5093 <li
>The CUPS queues are now automatically flushed every night, and all
5094 disabled queues are restarted every hour. This should cut down on
5095 the amount of manual administration needed for printers.
</li
>
5097 <li
>The set of initial users have been changed. Now a personal user
5098 for the local system administrator is created during installation
5099 instead of the previously created localadmin and super-admin users,
5100 and this user is granted administrative privileges using group
5101 membership. This reduces the number of passwords one need to keep
5102 up to date on the system.
</li
>
5106 <p
>The new main server seem to work so well that I am testing it as my
5107 private DNS/LDAP/Kerberos/PXE/LTSP server at home. I will use it look
5108 for issues we could fix to polish Debian Edu even further before the
5109 final Squeeze release is published.
</p
>
5111 <p
>Next weekend the project organise a
5112 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/
2012/
01/msg00001.html
">developer
5113 gathering
</a
> in Oslo. We will continue the work on the Squeeze
5114 version, and start initial planning for the Wheezy version. Perhaps I
5115 will see you there?
</p
>
5120 <title>Handling non-free firmware in Debian Edu/Squeeze
</title>
5121 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Handling_non_free_firmware_in_Debian_Edu_Squeeze.html
</link>
5122 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Handling_non_free_firmware_in_Debian_Edu_Squeeze.html
</guid>
5123 <pubDate>Fri,
27 Jan
2012 23:
30:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
5124 <description><p
>With some computer hardware, one need non-free firmware blobs.
5125 This is the sad fact of todays computers. In the next version of
5126 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a
> based
5127 on Squeeze, we provide several scripts and modifications to make
5128 firmware blobs easier to handle. The common use case I run into is a
5129 laptop with a wireless network card requiring non-free firmware to
5130 work, but there are other use cases as well.
</p
>
5132 <p
>First and foremost, Debian Edu provide ISO images for DVD and CD
5133 with all firmware packages in the Debian sections main and non-free
5134 included, to ensure debian-installer find and can install all of them
5135 during installation. This take care firmware for network devices used
5136 by the installer when installing from from local media. But for
5137 example multimedia devices are not activated in the installer and are
5138 not taken care of by this.
</p
>
5140 <p
>For non-network devices, we provide the script
5141 <tt
>/usr/share/debian-edu-config/tools/auto-addfirmware
</tt
> which
5142 search through the
<tt
>dmesg
</tt
> output for drivers requesting extra
5143 firmware. The firmware file name is looked up in the Contents-ARCH.gz
5144 file available in the package repository, and the packages providing
5145 the requested firmware file(s) is installed. I have proposed to do
5146 something similar in debian-installer (BTS report
5147 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
655507">#
655507</a
>), to allow PXE
5148 installs of Debian to handle firmware installation better. Run the
5149 script as root from the command line to fetch and install the needed
5150 firmware packages.
</p
>
5152 <p
>Debian Edu provide PXE installation of Debian out of the box, and
5153 because some machines need firmware to get their network cards
5154 working, the installation initrd some times need extra firmware
5155 included to be able to install at all. To fill the PXE installation
5156 initrd with extra firmware, the
5157 <tt
>/usr/share/debian-edu-config/tools/pxe-addfirmware
</tt
> script is
5158 provided. Again, just run it as root on the command line to fill the
5159 PXE initrd with firmware packages.
</p
>
5161 <p
>Last, some LTSP clients might also need firmware to get their
5162 network cards working. For this,
5163 <tt
>/usr/share/debian-edu-config/tools/ltsp-addfirmware
</tt
> is
5164 provided to update the LTSP initrd with firmware blobs. It is used
5165 the same way as the other firmware related tools.
</p
>
5167 <p
>At the moment, we do not run any of these during installation. We
5168 do not know if this is acceptable for the local administrator to use
5169 non-free software, and it is their choice.
</p
>
5171 <p
>We plan to release beta3 this weekend. You might want to give it a
5177 <title>Skjermbilder fra nordsamisk installasjon av Skolelinux/Squeeze
</title>
5178 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skjermbilder_fra_nordsamisk_installasjon_av_Skolelinux_Squeeze.html
</link>
5179 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skjermbilder_fra_nordsamisk_installasjon_av_Skolelinux_Squeeze.html
</guid>
5180 <pubDate>Thu,
26 Jan
2012 20:
00:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
5181 <description><p
>For morro skyld har jeg gjennomført en nordsamisk installasjon for
5182 neste utgave av
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>
5183 (Squeeze) og knipset skjermbilder av resultatet.
</p
>
5185 <p
>Som en kan se der er det noen oversettelser som mangler. Det hadde
5186 vært hyggelig hvis alle tekstene som vises i Skolelinux-installasjonen
5187 ble oversatt til nordsamisk, men for å få det til må noen som forstår
5188 språket melde seg til dyst. Det er mangel på nordsamiske oversettere
5189 av fri programvare. Hvis noen starter raskt, så bør en rekke å
5190 fullføre Wheezy-utgaven før den gis ut. :)
</p
>
5192 <p
>Se
<a href=
"http://d-i.debian.org/l10n-stats/
">oversetterstatistikk for
5193 debian installer
</a
> for detaljert status. Jeg har tipset
5194 <a href=
"https://lister.ping.uio.no/mailman/listinfo/i18n-sme
">epostlisten for samiskoversettelser
</a
>,
5195 men det har vært veldig liten aktivitet der de siste årene.
</p
>
5197 <p
><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
01-isomenu.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
01-isomenu.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5198 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
02-sme-lang.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
02-sme-lang.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5199 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
03-sme-place.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
03-sme-place.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5200 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
04-sme-keymap.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
04-sme-keymap.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5201 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
05-sme-profile.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
05-sme-profile.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5202 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
06-sme-autopart.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
06-sme-autopart.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5203 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
07-sme-popcon.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
07-sme-popcon.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5204 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
08-sme-rootpw1.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
08-sme-rootpw1.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5205 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
09-sme-rootpw2.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
09-sme-rootpw2.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5206 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
10-sme-firstuser.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
10-sme-firstuser.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5207 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
11-sme-firstusername.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
11-sme-firstusername.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5208 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
12-sme-firstuserpw1.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
12-sme-firstuserpw1.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5209 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
13-sme-firstuserpw2.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
13-sme-firstuserpw2.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5210 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
14-sme-part.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
14-sme-part.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5211 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
15-sme-debootstrap.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
15-sme-debootstrap.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5212 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
16-sme-tasksel.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
16-sme-tasksel.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5213 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
17-sme-wordlist.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
17-sme-wordlist.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5214 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
18-sme-tasksel.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
18-sme-tasksel.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5215 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
19-sme-ltsp.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
19-sme-ltsp.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5216 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
20-sme-grub.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
20-sme-grub.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5217 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
21-sme-finish-install.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
21-sme-finish-install.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
>
5218 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
22-sme-finish-message.png
"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2012-
01-
26-skolelinux-sme/
22-sme-finish-message.png
" width=
"40%
"></a
></p
>
5223 <title>Setting up a new school with Debian Edu/Squeeze
</title>
5224 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Setting_up_a_new_school_with_Debian_Edu_Squeeze.html
</link>
5225 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Setting_up_a_new_school_with_Debian_Edu_Squeeze.html
</guid>
5226 <pubDate>Wed,
25 Jan
2012 21:
00:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
5227 <description><p
>The next version of
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu
5228 / Skolelinux
</a
> will include a new tool
5229 <tt
>sitesummary2ldapdhcp
</tt
>, which can be used to quickly set up all
5230 the computers in a school without much manual labour. Here is a short
5231 summary on how to use it to set up a new school.
</p
>
5233 <p
>First, install a combined Main Server and Thin Client Server as the
5234 central server in the network. Next, PXE boot all the client machines
5235 as thin clients and wait
5 minutes after the last client booted to
5236 allow the clients to report their existence to the central server. When
5237 this is done, log on to the central server and run
5238 <tt
>sitesummary2ldapdhcp -a
</tt
> in the
<tt
>konsole
</tt
> to use the
5239 collected information to generate system objects in LDAP. The output
5240 will look similar to this:
</p
>
5242 <p
><blockquote
><pre
>
5243 % sitesummary2ldapdhcp -a
5244 info: Updating machine tjener.intern [
10.0.2.2] id ether-
00:
01:
02:
03:
04:
05.
5245 info: Create GOsa machine for auto-mac-
00-
01-
02-
03-
04-
06 [
10.0.16.20] id ether-
00:
01:
02:
03:
04:
06.
5247 Enter password if you want to activate these changes, and ^c to abort.
5249 Connecting to LDAP as cn=admin,ou=ldap-access,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
5250 enter password: *******
5252 </pre
></blockquote
></p
>
5254 <p
>After providing the LDAP administrative password (the same as the
5255 root password set during installation), the LDAP database will be
5256 populated with system objects for each PXE booted machine with
5257 automatically generated names. The final step to set up the school is
5258 then to log into
<a href=
"https://oss.gonicus.de/labs/gosa/
">GOsa
</a
>,
5259 the web based user, group and system administration system to change
5260 system names, add systems to the correct host groups and finally
5261 enable DHCP and DNS for the systems. All clients that should be used
5262 as diskless workstations should be added to the workstation-hosts
5263 group. After this is done, all computers can be booted again via PXE
5264 and get their assigned names and group based configuration
5265 automatically.
</p
>
5267 <p
>We plan to release beta3 with the updated version of this feature
5268 enabled this weekend. You might want to give it a try.
</p
>
5270 <p
>Update
2012-
01-
28: When calling sitesummary2ldapdhcp to add new
5271 hosts, one need to add the option -a. I forgot to mention this in my
5272 original text, and have added it to the text now.
</p
>
5277 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Paul Reidar Løsnesløkken
</title>
5278 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Paul_Reidar_L_snesl_kken.html
</link>
5279 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Paul_Reidar_L_snesl_kken.html
</guid>
5280 <pubDate>Wed,
18 Jan
2012 14:
30:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
5281 <description><p
>I serien med intervjuer av folk i
5282 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>-miljøet, har jeg nå
5283 lyktes med å få tak i en skolemann som ikke er aktiv med utviklingen,
5284 men likevel har vært med nesten siden starten av prosjektet. Jeg
5285 ønsker derfor velkommen til Paul Reidar Løsnesløkken, en mann med
5286 mange års erfaring i bruk av Skolelinux.
</p
>
5288 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
5290 <p
>Jeg driftet tidligere IKT løsningen for skolene i
5291 <a href=
"http://www.nord-odal.kommune.no/
">Nord-Odal
</a
>. I dag er jeg
5292 IKT-konsulent for hele kommunen og samarbeider med
5293 <a href=
"http://www.hedmarken-ikt.no/
">Hedmark-IKT
</a
> for best mulig
5294 tjenester til kommunen. Jeg har bakgrunn som elektronikkreparatør og
5295 grunnskolelærer og har tatt en del fag innen IKT, i hovedsak
5296 driftsfag. IKT i Nord-Odal kommune blir i dag driftet av Hedmark IKT
5297 som er et samarbeid mellom Løten, Stange, Grue, Hamar, Kongsvinger og
5298 Nord-Odal. Jeg er fortsatt
"IKT-personen
" på skolene i kommunen og
5299 følger opp og gjør enkelte mindre endringer der.
</p
>
5301 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
5303 <p
>Kommunen satset på Skolelinux i
2004. Jeg var ikke med i
5304 beslutningsprosessen den gang, men ble likevel med fra starten når
5305 dette ble levert.
</p
>
5307 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
5309 <p
>Fordelene med Skolelinux er rask oppstart, sentral drift av
5310 klientene, klienter som jobber raskt og effektivt, bedre
5311 funksjonalitet på eldre utstyr og en ganske god programpakke med fri
5312 programvare som følger med. Løsningen med halvtykke klienter gjør at
5313 prosessering skjer lokalt med alltid ferske maskiner.
</p
>
5315 <p
>Skolelinux kan fungere godt på gammelt utstyr, men det er klart at
5316 utstyr også blir for gammelt selv for Skolelinux. I forbindelese med
5317 at vi nylig fikk nye servere og ny installasjon kastet jeg ut ca
60
5318 klienter som fortsatt var i drift etter at de var kjøpt godt brukt i
5319 2004. Noe var rundt
15 år gammelt, men var fortsatt i bruk. Noen
5320 klaget på at det nå gikk veldig tregt på en del pedagogiske nettsider
5321 med flash o.l. Det er fullt forståelig.
</p
>
5323 <p
>Jeg fikk nylig et spørsmål fra ungdomsskolens rektor om jeg kunne
5324 legge inn
<a href=
"http://freemind.sourceforge.net/
">FreeMind
</a
>, et
5325 tankekartprogram , på skolens elev-Windowsmaskiner. Lærerne hadde
5326 vært på kurs og ville ta dette i bruk. Skolen har ca halvparten av
5327 elevmaskinene på bærbare Windowsmaskiner. Da kunne jeg fortelle at
5328 dette programmet allerede lå inne på den nye Skolelinuxløsningen
5329 som nettopp var satt i drift, klart til bruk.
</p
>
5331 <p
>Vi har de bærbare maskinene på ungdomsskolen i domene med
5332 Skolelinux. Dette fungerer også meget bra nå. Elevene får opp en
5333 midlertidig windowsprofil når de logger på. Denne profilen slettes
5334 etter at de logger av, noe som medfører rene profiler hver gang de
5335 starter opp en maskin. De må lagre i sin Skolelinprofil, noe som
5336 medfører at de får tak i sine filer uavhengig av om de starter en
5337 Windowsmaskin eller en Skolelinuxklient. Det er mye mindre trafikk i
5338 det trådløse nettet etter at ikke hele profiler blir lastet opp til de
5339 enkelte Windowsmaskinene og tilbake når man avslutter. Jeg vet ikke om
5340 dette er standardoppsett i Skolelinux, men slik er vårt oppsett
5343 <p
>Vi har i flere år satt opp vår løsning slik at skriverkøer slettes
5344 og skrivere startes hver natt. Hyggelig å høre at dette nå skal bli
5345 en standard i Skolelinuxløsningen. Dette har vært en god hjelp for
5348 <p
>Elevene er lite opptatt av om de jobber på en Skolelinux eller en
5349 Windowsmaskin bare de har de programmene de trenger og at det virker
5350 når det skal brukes. Vi kjører mest mulig de samme programmene på
5351 Windows som i Skolelinux, som f.eks Audacity og LibreOffice.
</p
>
5353 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
5355 <p
>Lærere bruker hos oss Windows. Dette fordi de da selv har mer
5356 kontroll over sin maskin, kan bruke den overalt, og kan legge inn
5357 programmer selv når de trenger noe i forhold til kurs o.l de er
5358 på. Jeg tror lærernes selvstendighet her gjør dem tryggere på IKT-bruk
5359 generelt. Det at de av og til får opp advarsler og lignende gjør også
5360 at de må tenke igjennom og spørre om ting rundt datasikkerhet.
</p
>
5362 <p
>Det er en del programmer vi bruker som ikke finnes for Linux. Mest
5363 brukt er nok Photostory3 som brukes i mange sammenhenger, særlig på
5364 ungdomsskolen, bl.a. til å lage herbarier (plantesamling) . Dette
5365 finnes gratis for Windows, men er ikke fri programvare. Vi er opptatt
5366 av at programmer elevene bruker på skolen også kan brukes gratis
5367 hjemme. Det er også en del programmer som brukes til spesielle elever
5368 som bare går i Windows. Det er viktig med fokus på funksjoner og ikke
5369 på hvilket OS man bruker.
</p
>
5371 <p
>For oss er det kombinasjonen mellom Skolelinux og Windows som gir
5372 oss en god og hel løsning. Skolelinux er best der de er gode.
</p
>
5374 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
5376 <p
>Selv er det LibreOffice jeg bruker til daglig. Jeg bruker selv en
5377 Windowsmaskin. Jeg har benyttet en del fri programvare i forbindelse
5378 med sjekking av trafikk i nettverk, slik som Wireshark, men dette er
5379 jo ikke aktuelt for skolene. Jeg er generelt glad i programmer som
5380 fungerer på både Linux og Windows og gjerne MAC.
</p
>
5382 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
5383 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
5385 <p
>Det er viktig at det benyttes programmer som elevene også kan ta i
5386 bruk hjemme. Det skal da være enkelt, lovlig og gratis for
5387 elevene. Da er jeg ikke lenger veldig opptatt av om det kalles
"fri
5388 programvare
". For skolene tror jeg
"gratis
" og
"funksjonelt
" er bedre
5389 begreper enn
"fri
" i forhold til programmer. De fleste skiller nok
5390 ikke mellom
"fri
" og
"gratis
". Det er nå svært mange elever som
5391 benytter OpenOffice eller LibreOffice som sin primære kontorpakke
5397 <title>Changing the default Iceweasel start page in Debian Edu/Squeeze
</title>
5398 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Changing_the_default_Iceweasel_start_page_in_Debian_Edu_Squeeze.html
</link>
5399 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Changing_the_default_Iceweasel_start_page_in_Debian_Edu_Squeeze.html
</guid>
5400 <pubDate>Tue,
10 Jan
2012 15:
30:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
5401 <description><p
>In the Squeeze version of
5402 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a
> soon
5403 to be released, users of the system will get their default browser
5404 start page set from LDAP, allowing the system administrator to point
5405 all users to the school web page by updating one setting in LDAP. In
5406 addition to setting the default start page when a machine boots, users
5407 are shown the same page as a welcome page when they log in for the
5408 first time.
</p
>
5410 <p
>The LDAP object dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no have an attribute
5411 labeledURI with
"http://www/ LDAP for Debian Edu/Skolelinux
" as the
5412 default content. By changing this value to another URL, all users get
5413 to see the page behind this new URL.
</p
>
5415 <p
>An easy way to update it is by using the ldapvi tool. It can be
5416 called as
"<tt
>ldapvi -ZD
'(cn=admin)
'</tt
>' to update LDAP with the
5417 new setting.
</p
>
5419 <p
>We have written the code to adjust the default start page and show
5420 the welcome page, and I wonder if there is an easier way to do this
5421 from within Iceweasel instead.
</p
>
5426 <title>Second beta version of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Squeeze
</title>
5427 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Second_beta_version_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Squeeze.html
</link>
5428 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Second_beta_version_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Squeeze.html
</guid>
5429 <pubDate>Sat,
7 Jan
2012 22:
50:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
5430 <description><p
>I am happy to announce that today we managed to wrap up and publish
5431 the second beta version of
5432 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a
>. If
5433 you want to test a LDAP backed Kerberos server with out of the box PXE
5434 configuration for running diskless machines and installing new
5435 machines, check it out. If you need a software solution for your
5436 school, check it out too. The full announcement is
5437 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/
2012/
01/msg00000.html
">available
</a
>
5438 on the project announcement list.
</p
>
5443 <title>Fixing an hanging debian installer for Debian Edu
</title>
5444 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Fixing_an_hanging_debian_installer_for_Debian_Edu.html
</link>
5445 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Fixing_an_hanging_debian_installer_for_Debian_Edu.html
</guid>
5446 <pubDate>Tue,
3 Jan
2012 11:
25:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
5447 <description><p
>During christmas, I have been working getting the next version of
5448 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a
> ready
5449 for release. The initial problem I looked at was particularly
5450 interesting.
</p
>
5452 <P
>The installer would hang at the end when it was doing it
5453 post-installation configuration, and whatevery I did to try to find
5454 the cause and fix it always worked while I tested it, but never when I
5455 integrated it into the installer and ran the installation from
5456 scratch. I would try to restart processes, close file descriptors,
5457 remove or create files, and the installer would always unblock and
5458 wrap up its tasks.
</p
>
5460 <p
>Eventually the cause was found. The kernel was simply running out
5461 of entropy, causing the Kerberos setup to hang waiting for more.
5462 Pressing keys was adding entropy to the kernel, and thus all my tries
5463 to fix the problem worked not because what I was typing to fix it, but
5464 because I was typing.
</P
>
5466 <p
>The fix I implemented was to add a background process looking at
5467 the level of entropy in the kernel (by checking
5468 /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail), and if it was too small, the
5469 installer will flush the kernel file buffers and do
'find /
' to
5470 generate some disk IO. Disk IO generate entropy in the kernel, and is
5471 one of the few things that can be initated from within the system to
5472 generate entropy.
</p
>
5474 <p
>The fix is in
5475 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze/Installation
">beta1
5476 of the Debian Edu/Squeeze
</a
> version, and we
5477 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu
">welcome more testers and
5478 developers
</a
>. We plan to release beta2 this weekend.
</p
>
5483 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Peter Hansteen
</title>
5484 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Peter_Hansteen.html
</link>
5485 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Peter_Hansteen.html
</guid>
5486 <pubDate>Sun,
11 Dec
2011 23:
10:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
5487 <description><p
>Etter en lang pause er det klart for neste mann ut i min serie med
5489 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>-relaterte personer.
5491 Denne gangen har jeg besøk av et avtroppende styremedlem i
5492 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">FRISK
</a
>, og en mann
5493 som har vært aktiv i Linux-miljøet i Bergen siden
90-tallet.
</p
>
5495 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
5497 <p
>Jeg heter Peter Hansteen, og jobber til daglig som seniorkonsulent
5498 i EDB ErgoGroup i Bergen. I praksis betyr det systemadministrasjon på
5499 Unix (primært Solaris, men en viss komponent av Linux). Men Solaris
5500 er for meg et relativt nytt bekjentskap, hovedplattformen min har
5501 generelt vært OpenBSD og til dels FreeBSD.
</p
>
5503 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
5505 <p
>Jeg husker ikke helt alle detaljene mer ;) - men jeg tror det var
5506 gjennom news-gruppen no.it.os.unix.linux.diverse, efn-listen og
5507 etterhvert også BLUG-miljøet her i Bergen. Vi hadde et par
5508 Skolelinux-sentrerte BLUG-møter for noen år siden, og det har vært et
5509 par Skolelinux-utviklersamlinger her.
</p
>
5511 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
5513 <p
>Jeg bruker dessverre ikke Skolelinux daglig. Men slik jeg kjenner
5514 prosjektet har det vært i stand til å ta opp i seg det beste av fri
5515 programvare i mange kategorier, så fra et sysadmin-perspektiv ser det
5516 ut som en svært behagelig sak. For brukerne er det vel både en fordel
5517 og en ulempe at det ikke er Windows. Men vi håper at fordelene med et
5518 fritt system etterhvert vil bli åpenbare for både elever, lærekrefter
5519 og foreldre.
</p
>
5521 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
5523 <p
>Vel, ulempen er vel først og fremst at andre aktører med mer
5524 kapitalmuskel har klart å etablere seg som det både lærere og foreldre
5525 føler seg trygge på, selv om det etter mitt hode ikke er noen grunn
5526 til å være spesielt trygg på de kommersielle alternativene.
</p
>
5528 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
5530 <p
>Når jeg får bestemme helt selv, bruker jeg kun fri programvare. Da
5531 helst med vekt på ting som kjører greit på OpenBSD. Hjemme er det
5532 OpenBSD, Ubuntu eller FreeBSD vi bruker. På skrivebordet er det en
5533 avveining mellom Gnome, KDE eller hva-det-nå-heter som er
5534 standardvalget i Ubuntu, ellers er det de kjente tingene som
5535 LibreOffice, Emacs, mplayer. På server er det selvfølgelig Apache,
5536 for overvåking både OpenNMS og Nagios (det bare ble sånn, og
5537 forskjellige siter). Jeg skriver til tider om slikt jeg holder på med
5539 <a href=
"http://bsdly.blogspot.com
">http://bsdly.blogspot.com
</a
>.
</p
>
5541 <p
>Men vi må nevne at selv vi har en Microsoft-ting som vi slår på når
5542 vi av en eller annen grunn må. Det betyr igjen vanligvis når en
5543 mobiltelefon eller en annen lukket elektronisk dings krever kontakt
5544 via en slik for å få oppdateringene sine.
</p
>
5546 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
5547 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
5549 <p
>Hadde vi hatt det rette svaret på det spørsmålet, så hadde vi
5550 gjerne hatt Skolelinux som førstevalg på alle skoler ;)
</p
>
5552 <p
>Men jeg tror vi må legge vekt på flere forskjellige ting. En helt
5553 sentral sak er å fokusere på fri programvare og åpne standarder som de
5554 demokratiske verdiene de faktisk er. Det har kanskje kommet litt for
5555 mye i bakgrunnen i forhold til strevet etter å lage det mest mulig
5556 'brukervennlige
' systemet. Det er en tung vei å gå, så det er
5557 forståelig at freenix-aktivister heller velger å skrive kode og annet
5558 som er mer lystbetont. Mer praktisk tror jeg vi må gjøre i alle fall
5559 to ting: For det første sørge for å fortsette med å levere det best
5560 mulige frie produktet, slik at det er lett å både komme i gang og
5561 holde systemene i daglig drift, og for det andre
2) spore opp mulige
5562 aktivister der de finnes, via lokale brukergrupper, sosiale medier
5563 eller annet og sørge for at de fortsetter å være aktive. Mer og
5564 mindre uformelle treff kan være nyttig i tillegg til de mer
5565 organiserte møtene med foredrag, konferanser og utviklersamlinger.
</p
>
5570 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Frode Jemtland
</title>
5571 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Frode_Jemtland.html
</link>
5572 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Frode_Jemtland.html
</guid>
5573 <pubDate>Wed,
27 Jul
2011 08:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
5574 <description><p
>Neste mann ut i min serie med intervjuer av Skolelinux-relaterte
5575 personer er en tidligere styreleder i
5576 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">FRISK
</a
> som var med
5578 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>-prosjektet.
</p
>
5580 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
5582 <p
>Mitt navn er Frode Jemtland, og jeg jobber i Hedmark IKT, som er et
5583 driftsselskap for Grue, Hamar, Kongsvinger, Løten, Nord-Odal og Stange
5584 kommuner. Her er jeg leder for avdelingen Løsninger og Arkitektur. Vi
5585 har i hovedansvar for servere, infrastruktur og løsninger som
5588 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
5590 <p
>Jobbet i IBM fra
2000, og da spesielt med Linux. Dette var da et av
5591 de mest tydelige linux prosjektene i Norge, og her ønsket jeg å
5592 bidra. Var aktivt med i prosjektet i
4-
5 år.
</p
>
5594 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
5596 <p
>Fordelene slik jeg ser det er den sentraliserte driftmodellen, og
5597 alle de vel gjennomtenkte løsningene som er inkludert i denne
5598 løsningen. Samtidig er det basert på en stabil, og godt kjent
5599 plattform. Dette vil si at man har en løsning som skal være mye
5600 tilgjengelig, og hvor det er relativt enkelt å få tak i personer som
5601 kan mye om den grunnleggende plattformen.
</p
>
5603 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
5605 <p
>De største utfordringene med en løsningen er at den er intensiv på f.eks
5606 nettverk. I seg selv ikke et problem for en enkelt skole, men skal løsningen
5607 kjøres i større skala, med sentraliserte servere, så gir dette noen
5608 utfordringer.
</p
>
5610 <p
>Utifra hva jeg har sett på større installasjoner så er det ikke så
5611 enkelt å skjønne, hva som bør gjøres for at den skal skaleres opp, og
5612 da ta godt vare på alle sider av dette, ikke bare mer server å fordele
5613 last/trykk, men hvordan også beholde robustheten og fleksibiliteten i
5614 løsningen.
</p
>
5616 <p
>En annen utfordring er at stadig flere produkter som skal brukes i
5617 skoleløsningen ikke er laget til å kunne brukes i en
5618 skolelinuxløsning. Det blir derfor fort mye skreddersøm i de
5619 forskjellige installasjonene, for å få diverse pedagogiske programmer,
5620 webløsninger, smartboards, m.m. til å fungere. Man er også en for
5621 liten kundebase til at leverandørene ønsker å gjøre noe med
5622 utfordringen. Problemet overlates til oss.
</p
>
5624 <p
>Det er også en kontinuerlig utfordring rundt problemet med å holde
5625 programvare på stabile versjoner, kontra å få ny funksjonalitet. Dette
5626 er jo en konflikt mellom oss som ønsker å drifte en stabil, og
5627 kostnadseffektiv løsning, mot sluttbrukerne som ønsker seg funksjoner
5628 det er vant med fra andre løsninger, eller som de må ha for at et
5629 eller annet nytt produkt skal fungere i løsningen. Dette er en
5630 utfordring også for andre plattformer.
</p
>
5632 <p
>En siste utfordring som ikke har noe med løsningen å gjøre, men med
5633 det omkringliggende miljøet denne skal kjøre i, er at de enhetene som
5634 skal drifte dataløsninger for kommuner og fylkeskommuner begynner å
5635 profesjonaliseres, og er da avhengig av å ha standard løsninger for å
5636 drifte store brukermasser. MS er selvsagt klar over dette, og har jo
5637 nå flere områder de begynner å bli veldig dominerende på. Den største,
5638 og mest problematiske er katalogtjenesten. Man får snart ikke tak i
5639 større løsninger som ikke krever en AD. Når man da har store enheter
5640 som drifter både kommunalt ansatte og skoler, så vil det være et
5641 stordriftargument å standardisere på en katalog tjeneste, og da har
5642 man ikke noe valg. Her er alle slike driftsenheter for små til å få
5643 gjort om på dette. Her burde konkurransemyndighetene kommet på
5644 banen. Men konkurransetilsynet i USA griper sjeldent (og ikke før det
5645 har gått veldig lang tid) inn i monopolsituasjoner så lenge
5646 monopolisten er et amerikansk firma, så da har vel ikke andre
5647 myndigheter så mye de skulle ha sagt....
</p
>
5649 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
5651 <p
>Privat kjører jeg Debian på alle mine datamaskiner. Det gjør jeg
5652 også på min jobbmaskin. Vi har også
15-
20 linux servere av typene
5653 SuSE, Debian, Redhat, CentOS m.m. Jeg bruker derfor mye fri
5654 programvare. Av enkelt programmer kan sikkert masse nevnes. Hvis vi
5655 skal begrense oss til daglig, så må jeg si: OpenOffice, Firefox,
5656 Kontact, Kopete, Amarok,
5657 <a href=
"http://gramps-project.org/
">Gramps
</a
>, Kate, ssh, bash,
5658 rsync, backuppc m.m.
</p
>
5660 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
5661 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
5663 <p
>Det er et godt spørsmål, som jeg har lurt på selv.
</p
>
5665 <p
>Argumentene som ofte har vært brukt om at ting koster mindre holder
5666 ikke mål når man ser på hva som faktisk koster penger. Det er de
5667 ansatte som er en kostnadsdriver. Det vil si at hvis man har et system
5668 som den ansatte kan, så vil en kostnad på dette systemet kunne
5669 forsvares ganske mye ved at den ansatte gjør dette raskere og
5670 effektivt. Også uten å måtte eventuelt leie inn folk.
</p
>
5672 <p
>Jeg syns det er viktigere å fokusere på prinsippet med å velge fri
5673 programvare, men det er også et felt hvor man fort møter lite
5674 forståelse blant de ansatte i skolen.
</p
>
5676 <p
>Her må nok strategien fortsette å være at de sentrale myndighetene
5677 må sende tydelige signaler for hva de ønsker at offentlige enheter
5678 skal gjøre. Det var mye positivt på gang ang. dette for et par år
5679 siden. Både med eNorge og eKommune planene, men dette syns jeg har
5680 stoppet opp. En del av dette kan jo kanskje være usikkerheten som
5681 etter hvert har blitt, når man har sett kompleksiteten i de
5682 prosjektene som har blitt igangsatt. Det har også blitt noe usikkerhet
5683 i markedet ref. Sun, Oracle, Novell, Microsoft m.m. Samtidig har jo
5684 også de proprietære programleverandørene sørget for å endre sine
5685 lisenser slik at man uansett ikke slipper unna kostnaden til deres
5686 produkter, selv om man skulle velge alternativer. Da er det økonomiske
5687 argumentet, som jeg nevnte tidligere, spilt ganske godt ut over
5688 sidelinjen.
</p
>
5693 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Marius Kotsbak
</title>
5694 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Marius_Kotsbak.html
</link>
5695 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Marius_Kotsbak.html
</guid>
5696 <pubDate>Sun,
10 Apr
2011 11:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
5697 <description><p
>Neste mann ut er Marius Kotsbak, styremedlem i
5698 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">FRISK
</a
> og mangeårig
5700 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>-prosjektet.
</p
>
5702 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
5704 <p
>Jeg er en systemutvikler/kybernetiker og jobber med dette til
5705 daglig. På fritiden tester jeg ut/bruker mye fri programvare, og
5706 bidrar med testing og utvikling når jeg ser stort nok behov for det og
5707 jeg har noe å bidra med.
</p
>
5709 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
5711 <p
>Hmm, det er lenge siden, så det er nesten så jeg ikke husker. Jeg
5712 hadde vel hørt om prosjektet i media før en gjeng i Trondheim startet
5713 opp SPIST, Skolelinux-prosjektet i Sør-Trøndelag, hvor vi hjalp noen
5714 skoler i nærområdet med å installere Skolelinux og finne brukt
5715 IT-utstyr til disse. Det var moro å gjøre noe praktisk for å spre
5716 Skolelinux, og å se hvor fort gjort det var å sette opp utrangerte
5717 klientmaskiner og få disse opp som tynnklienter på helt nye datasaler
5718 på skolene, kun med kostnaden til servere.
</p
>
5720 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
5722 <p
>Det er et system spesielt skreddersydd for drift av et stort antall
5723 klienter mot servere, og da spesielt i henhold til skolers behov. Det
5724 er enkelt og billig å installere og drifte, og det trenger ikke ny
5725 maskinvare for god ytelse.
</p
>
5727 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
5729 <p
>Hardwarestøtten kunne vært bedre og i enda større grad
5730 installerbart rett ut av boksen. Distribusjonen har til tider hatt
5731 litt gammel programvare pga. at den følger Debian sine utgivelser.
5732 Kanskje man skulle vurdert en versjon basert på Ubuntu eller andre
5733 distribusjoner i tillegg?
</p
>
5735 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
5737 <p
>Oi, det er ikke lite. Her er det jeg kommer på i farta. Jeg bruker
5738 Linux og Ubuntu, og på Ubuntu programene Firefox, Thunderbird,
5739 Chromium, Pidgin, Digikam, OpenOffice, Wireshark, git og irssi.
5740 Telefonen min er en Android, og der bruker jeg programmene K-
9 Mail,
5741 OI Shopping list, Shuffle, ZXing, OI Notepad og ADW Desktop. På jobb
5742 bruker jeg JBoss, Eclipse, uCLinux for Blackfin, RCF-CPP, Qt, Maven,
5743 og boost-bibliotekene for C++.
</p
>
5745 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
5746 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
5748 <p
>En bør fokusere på totalkostnader inkludert driftsbehov,
5749 fleksibilitet, åpenhet og ikke låsing til en leverandør framfor sparte
5750 lisenskostnader, samt programvarens kvalitet og fortrinn, og at den
5751 fritt kan brukes på et ubegrenset antall PC-er, også hjemme hos
5752 elevene. En bør også forbedre den fri programvaren ved testing,
5753 bugrapportering og kodebidrag om man kan, og ikke anbefale programvare
5754 uten at man har forsikret seg at den har tilstrekkelig kvalitet,
5755 ellers kan man lett oppnå det motsatte. Tror en bør selge inn
5756 konseptet til fylkes-/statsnivå, kanskje med bidrag til
5757 utviklingsarbeid fra disse som alle landets skoler kan få glede
5763 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Odin Hetland Nøsen
</title>
5764 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Odin_Hetland_N_sen.html
</link>
5765 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Odin_Hetland_N_sen.html
</guid>
5766 <pubDate>Mon,
28 Mar
2011 13:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
5767 <description><p
>Mine bloggposter om Linux i skolene i Norge førte til at inspektør
5768 og ildsjel på Harestad skole tok kontakt og fortalte at de bruker
5769 Linux på sin skole, og lurte på om de kunne bidra til å gjøre
5770 fordelene kjent. Riktig nok bruker de ikke
5771 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
> på denne skolen,
5772 men jeg synes dette er en god anledning til å gjøre flere fasetter
5773 rundt Linux-økosystemet kjent, og tok et lite intervju.
</p
>
5775 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
5777 <p
>Mitt navn er Odin Hetland Nøsen og er en
70-modell. Jeg er bosatt i
5778 Stavanger og jobber nå på
9. året som undervisninginspektør på
5779 Harestad skole i Randaberg kommune (nabokommune til Stavanger).
</p
>
5781 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
5783 <p
>I
2002 begynte daværende IKT-ansvarlige og jeg et arbeid på skolen
5784 med å gå over fra Win98 til... noe annet. Vi testet en rekke
5785 forskjellige løsninger, deriblant Skolelinux, men endte opp med
5786 RedHat. Skolelinux var den gang ikke modent for det vi ville ha. Jeg
5787 har siden fulgt jevnlig med på hva skolelinux holder på med, men har
5788 hele tiden vært bedre fornøyd med vår egen
"standardiserte
" løsning på
5789 RedHat/CentOS og Fedora. Vi snuser for tiden på Ubuntu som løsning på
5790 klientsiden.
</p
>
5792 <p
>I dag har vi på skolen vår en større linux-løsning med
400 klienter
5793 som kjører en blanding av LTSP (tynnklient) og DRBL (tykk klient uten
5794 harddisk) med en masse tjenere på serverrommet. Vi drifter hele
5795 sulamitten selv med webtjener, eposttjener, webmail, filtjenere,
5796 virtuelle tjenere osv. Og IT-ansvarlig har en
80% stilling som
5797 IT-ansvarlig - og så er han KoH-lærer i de resterende
20% :-)
</p
>
5799 <p
>Du kan få en ide om hva vi holder på med om du går inn på
5800 <a href=
"http://www.gnuskole.no/
">http://www.gnuskole.no/
</a
>.
</p
>
5802 <p
>For å ta brodden av frykten for at ildsjeler gjør skolen sårbar om
5803 ildsjelene falle fra, har jeg forsikret kommunen og skolesjefen i
5804 Randaberg om at det finnes godt kommersielle tjenester vi kan benytte
5805 oss av - om det skulle bli nødvendig. Vi er tre stykker i kommunen som
5806 nå har
<strong
>god
</strong
> linux-kompetanse ift. å drifte et større
5807 system. IT-avdelingen i kommunen vil ikke ta på oss med ildtang -
5808 selv om vi nok har større IT-kompetanse mot linux enn det de selv har
5809 mot windows (de kjøper en
<strong
>masse
</strong
> konsulenttjenester
5810 fra ErgoGroup).
</p
>
5812 <p
>I kvantitet er Harestad og Grødem skole tilsammen et større
5813 IT-system enn resten av Randaberg kommune + Kvitsøy og Rennesøy, som
5814 kommunen også har driftsansvar for. Vi har som sagt rundt
800
5815 maskiner, mens kommunen med sitt driftsansvar har ansvar for rundt
500
5816 maskiner. Det er selvfølgelig litt forskjell i hvor kritiske
5817 tjenestene våre er, men det gir allikevel et litt rart bilde når
5818 IT-avdelingen overhode ikke er interessert i å snakke med oss om
5819 hvordan vi gjør ting :-)
</p
>
5821 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
5823 <p
>Fra linux-perspektivet (ikke bare Skolelinux) er det en fordel av
5824 systemet er basert på fri programvare - og dermed fritt i ordets mange
5825 betydninger. Det er alt vi trenger: stabilt, relativt enkelt å drifte
5826 (tross alt - et større windowssystem er ikke enkelt å holde live det
5827 heller), rimelig i innkjøp og drift, og sist, men ikke minst, det er
5828 moderne for sluttbruker! Linux, i sine mange varianter,
5829 <strong
>ser
</strong
> nytt ut, fordi det hele tiden blir
5830 oppdatert. Derfor lever systemet opp til hvordan elever forventer at
5831 et moderne GUI skal være (i motsetning til WinXP :-).
</p
>
5833 <p
>Vi var veldig pragmatiske da vi begynte med linux i skolen. Det var
5834 billig, det fungerte og kunne bruke alle de gamle windows-maskinene
5835 som
"nye
" tynne klienter. I dag er vi mer bevisste fri
5836 programvare-tilhengere. Vi har oppdaget hva det er - og vi liker
5839 <p
>En av de
<strong
>store
</strong
> fordelene med fri programvare er at
5840 vi kan installere tjenester vi ønsker å tilby brukerne våre - uten å
5841 måtte tenke på om vi har råd til lisensene (fordi det er ingen). Alt
5842 vi setter i produksjon er ut i fra brukernes behov og vår kapasitet
5843 til å drifte dem. Vi skreddersyr tjenestene etter behovet og dermed
5844 trenger vi ikke ende opp med å kjøpe en pakke der vi egentlig bare var
5845 interessert i en liten del av den.
</p
>
5847 <p
>Bruk av linux frigjør ikke økonomiske midler, fordi midlene til IKT
5848 i skole er for få i utgangspunktet - men vi får så
5849 <strong
>mye
</strong
> mer igjen for dem når vi bruker en linux-løsning
5850 fremfor en windows-løsning. I praksis ser vi at vi måtte ut med det
5851 dobbelte på budsjettet vårt om vi skulle hatt en tilsvarende
5852 windows-løsning, som det vi i dag drifter med linux.
</p
>
5854 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
5856 <p
>Ikke all pedagogisk programvare er tilgjengelig. Det er en del
5857 programvare i skolen som er laget med utviklerverktøy som bare virker
5858 i windows, f.eks. Drillpro, LingDys/LingWrite. Det er også
5859 "programmer
" som bare virker om du har tilgang til Microsoft Office,
5860 f.eks. AskiRaski.
</p
>
5862 <p
>Vi sliter også litt med at video-codecer ikke alltid er like lett å
5863 få opp å gå på klientene. Det er alltid en eller annen videosnutt fra
5864 nrk.no som ikke er så samarbeidsvillig, uansett mediaplayer.
</p
>
5866 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
5868 <p
>Alt :-) På skolen bruker vi det som finnes og som er nyttig. Det vi
5869 bruker mest er Firefox (jobber med Chrome, fordi det er
5870 <strong
>mye
</strong
> raskere med Flash enn Firefox), OpenOffice (skal
5871 over til LibreOffice), GIMP osv. Standardpakken av
5872 sluttbrukerprogrammer.
</p
>
5874 <p
>På tjenernivå bruker vi OpenWebMail (skal over til Zimbra), Exim
5877 <p
>Personlig bruker jeg de fleste programmer over flere plattformer,
5878 men jeg har lagt meg til en vane å prioritere bruken av fri
5879 programvare også i Windows
7 og OSX.
</p
>
5881 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
5882 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
5884 <p
>Jeg er langt i fra sikker. For det første handler det mye om at
5885 IKT-avdelingen i kommunen ofte er de som styrer hva som er IKT på
5886 skolene - og de liker å bruke avtalene med Microsoft, som de garantert
5887 har fra før. Dessuten - Select
6-avtalen til skolene gjør Microsoft
5888 skvettbillig.
</p
>
5890 <p
>Vi la vekt på effektiv drift av systemet - og at vi kunne øke
5891 antall maskiner uten å måtte øke budsjett for utstyr eller personell
5892 særlig mye, enn om vi hadde gått for en Microsoft-løsning. I praksis
5893 ser vi at en ren linux-installasjon driftes til halve prisen av en
5894 Microsoft-løsning.
</p
>
5896 <p
>Vi har i praksis også sett at det lærerne (og elevene) liker er at
5897 vi tilbyr
<strong
>veldig
</strong
> mange tjenester som ikke er så
5898 vanlige i en Microsoft-løsning. Det er ikke så vanlig at
5899 <strong
>elevene
</strong
> også har epost, hjemmekontor osv. Det har vi
5900 også brukt som et vellykket argument mot Microsoft.
</p
>
5902 <p
>Den beste måten er selvfølgelig at noen bare bestemmer
5903 det. Problemet er å få dem som har makt til å bestemme det til faktisk
5904 å gjøre det ;-)
</p
>
5909 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Astri Sletteng
</title>
5910 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Astri_Sletteng.html
</link>
5911 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Astri_Sletteng.html
</guid>
5912 <pubDate>Sun,
27 Feb
2011 12:
50:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
5913 <description><p
>En dame som har bidratt lenge til fri programvare i skoleverket og
5914 i foreningen som organiserer skolelinux-utviklersamlinger,
5915 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">FRISK
</a
>, er neste
5916 intervjuoffer. Det er en glede å her presentere en lærer fra Håkvik.
</p
>
5918 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
5920 <p
>Jeg heter Astri Sletteng. Jeg er lærer og IKT veileder ved Håkvik
5921 skole i Narvik kommune. Min bakgrunn når det gjelder IKT: Av formell
5922 utdannelse har jeg lærerutdanning, Master i skoleledelse og IKT for
5923 lærere. Har jobba som IKT veileder siden
2002.
</p
>
5925 <p
>Det viktigste for meg som IKT veileder er å få fundamentert den
5926 5. basisferdigheten, digital kompetanse ved skolen min på en god måte
5927 slik at hele skolesamfunnet tar i bruk IKT i alle fag. Dette arbeidet
5928 gjøres i nært samarbeid med skolens ledelse.
</p
>
5930 <p
>Min viktigste jobb som IKT veileder er å være motivator og pådriver
5931 i IKT arbeidet ved skolen.
</p
>
5933 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
5935 <p
>Jobber i en kommune hvor vi satser på Fri programvare. I
2004 ble
5936 det gjort et politisk vedtak om at vi skulle innføre Skolelinux ved
5937 alle skolene i kommunen. Jeg har dermed en god del erfaring med
5938 Skolelinux, samt annen fri programvare som Open Office, Joomla, Moodle
5941 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
5943 <p
>Siden vi jobber med åpen kildekode kan vi få programmene og
5944 produktene tilpasset vår bruk. Det er jo heller ikke en ulempe at
5945 skolen kommer bedre ut økonomisk, men først og fremst er det viktig
5946 for oss at vi har digitale systemer som gjør at vi kan følge
5947 læreplanen i alle fag. Det syns jeg at vi kan gjøre gjennom
5948 Skolelinux.
</p
>
5950 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
5952 <p
>Skolen er avhengige av å ha folk på IT avdelinga i kommunen som kan
5953 drive support, og være tilgjengelige når vi trenger hjelp. Det er en
5954 ulempe at ikke alle på denne avdelingen nødvendigvis er god på
5957 <p
>Vi har også noen utfordringer når det kommer til spesielle
5958 programmer som enkelte elever er avhengige av ? og som ikke er
5959 plattform uavhengige. Her har vi i Friprog-verden, men også
5960 departement en jobb å gjøre.
</p
>
5962 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
5964 <p
>Skolen vår bruker Skolelinux, Open Office, Iceweazel (Mozilla),
5965 VLC, Tux paint, Scribus, FreeMind, GIMP, digiKam, Ksnapshot, GeoGebra,
5966 Moodle (innført på alle klassetrinn + som et administrativt verktøy)
5967 og Joomla som hjemmeside.
<p
>
5969 <p
>Det er de jeg kommer på i farten. I tillegg har vi Smartboard
5970 installert på server, men det regnes vel ikke som fri programvare?
</p
>
5972 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
5973 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
5975 <p
>Først og fremst trenger skolen oppetider på sine datasystemer. Syns
5976 også at det at vi kan få tilpasset plattform og systemer til vår bruk
5977 er en god strategi å bruke.
</p
>
5982 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Rubén Romero y Cordero
</title>
5983 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Rub_n_Romero_y_Cordero.html
</link>
5984 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Rub_n_Romero_y_Cordero.html
</guid>
5985 <pubDate>Wed,
16 Feb
2011 12:
00:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
5986 <description><p
>Styret i foreningen som organiserer skolelinux-utviklersamlinger,
5987 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">FRISK
</a
>, er fullt av
5988 flinke folk. Denne gangen har jeg fått et ferskt styremedlem som
5989 kommer fra Ubuntu-miljøet i tale.
</p
>
5991 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
5993 <p
>Rubén Romero y Cordero,
81-modell, deltidspappa (
50%) for en jente
5994 på
6 år. Jobber i Oslo som Global Sales Executive hos Varnish Software
5995 og til daglig har jeg kontakt med kunder fra hele verden. Min
5996 forkjærlighet for fri programvare har gjort at jeg har nå flere års
5997 erfaring med salg av slike løsninger (bl.a. fra Redpill Linpro og
5998 Freecode) og mye innsikt og kunnskap om det globale IT-markedet.
5999 Ellers er jeg involvert i flere prosjekter bl.a. er jeg Ubuntu
6000 Community medlem, kontaktpersonen for Ubuntu Norge og driveren av
6001 SpreadUbuntu marketing prosjektet og nå fersk styremedlem i FRISK. Jeg
6002 har brukt GNU/Linux siden
1997.
</p
>
6004 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
6006 <p
>Som Debian bruker siden slutten av
90-tallet var det uunngåelig å
6007 ikke komme bort i Skolelinux. Dette var vel i slutten av
2001 når jeg
6008 var student ved UiO. Flere år senere fikk jeg lastet og testet Venus
6009 (Skolelinux
1.0) på release dagen.
</p
>
6011 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
6013 <p
>Fri programvare bygges sten for sten i det åpne, slik at koden og
6014 prosessen den lages på kan gjennomskues av andre enn de som har laget
6015 det. Det er et vitenskapelig og gjennomsiktig måte å lage programvare
6018 <p
>Skoler i vårt samfunn skal være steder hvor vitenskapelig kunnskap
6019 deles til alle. I dag har vi ikke et vitenskapelig tilnærming til
6020 hvordan programvaren som brukes på skolen lages. Skolelinux bringer
6021 inn at slik tilnærming i skoleverkets klasserom, siden
6022 operativsystemet er en åpent platform som gir skolene muligheten til å
6023 dra nytte av programvare som er laget av tusenvis av mennesker verden
6024 rundt og som gir elevene så vel som lærerne muligheten til å bruke,
6025 dele, forandre og forbedre OSet sitt uten begrensninger. I den
6026 forbindelsen representerer Skolelinux også konkrete resultater utfra
6027 samhandling på tvers av grenser.
</p
>
6029 <p
>Når det gjelder de tekniske fordelene av Skolelinux er jeg sikker
6030 på at andre enn meg har allerede beskrevet disse bedre enn det jeg
6031 kan. Men jeg kan likevel tilføye noe: Skolelinux som sådan er en
6032 community-drevet operativsystemplatform. Som i ethvert
6033 community-prosjekt har alle Skolelinux brukere muligheten til å
6034 påvirke retning av prosjektet og resultatet som gjenspeiles i
6035 programvaren. Dette kommer sjeldent frem og jeg mener at det er noe
6036 som burde fokuseres mer på.
</p
>
6038 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
6040 <p
>De største ulempene er:
</p
>
6043 <li
>Mangel på kompetanse
</li
>
6044 <li
>Mangel av administrative verktøy som kunne hjelpe lokale IT
6045 avdelinger å bruke Skolelinux til mer enn bare en tjener for
6046 terminalklienter. Et eksempel: Zentyal sin web-dashboard.
</li
>
6049 <p
>Bedre og mer intuitive administrative verktøy kunne løst deler av
6050 problemet, men det er unektelig at ved bruk av Skolelinux må
6051 IT-personalet vite hva de gjør for å få ting gjort riktig, eller i det
6052 hele tatt. Med andre platformer er kompetansen enklere tilgjengelig og
6053 løsningene kan fungere på en tilfredstillende, om ikke riktig
6056 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
6058 <p
>Har brukt GNU/Linux utelukkende sommitt skrivebord OS siden
2000. I
6059 dag bruker jeg Ubuntu og gjør det meste med friprogramvare verktøyene
6060 som er tilgjengelige der. Med over
20.000 programmer å velge mellom er
6061 dette mer enn nok for de fleste brukerne.
</p
>
6063 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
6064 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
6066 <p
>Opplysning og pragmatikk. Vi prøver å løse problemer med bruk av
6067 programvare. De fleste utfordringene skolene har på IKT-siden kan
6068 løses ved hjelp av friprogramvareverktøy i dag. Det som trenges er
6069 opplysning, kunnskap og kompetanse.
</p
>
6074 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Morten Amundsen
</title>
6075 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Morten_Amundsen.html
</link>
6076 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Morten_Amundsen.html
</guid>
6077 <pubDate>Sun,
23 Jan
2011 12:
00:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
6078 <description><p
>Denne gangen er det Tromsøkontoret til Friprog-senteret, og nyvalgt
6079 styremedlem i
<a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">foreningen
6080 FRISK
</a
> jeg har fått i tale i min intervjuserie med
6081 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>-folk.
</p
>
6083 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
6085 <p
>Jeg heter Morten Amundsen og jobber i
6086 <a href=
"http://www.friprog.no/
">Friprog.no
</a
>, men er for tiden leid
6087 ut til
<a href=
"http://www.bredbandsfylket.no/
">Bredbåndsfylket
6088 Troms
</a
> der jeg jobber med ett prosjekt som heter
6089 "<a href=
"http://www.bredbandsfylket.no/skolefjoela
.157417.no.html
">Skolefjøla
</a
>"
6090 Vi ser på en åpen løsning som integrerer eksisterende lukkete
6091 løsninger sammen med fri programvare. Målet er å gi elever og lærere
6092 en plattform som de kan tilpasse utfra behov.
</p
>
6094 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
6096 <p
>Skolelinux har jeg møtt ved flere anledninger opp gjennom åra, både gjennom
6097 entusiastiske skolelinuxbrukere og skeptiske
"forståsegpåere
" :-)
</p
>
6099 <p
>Jeg husker en leverandør av et stort OS for noen år siden mente at
6100 Skolelinux var kun for hackere og nerder og at ingen seriøse skoler
6101 kunne ta dette i bruk. Heldigvis er kunnskapen større nå og
6102 skikkelige
"IT-folk
" søker alltid å utvide sin kunnskap.
6104 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
6106 <p
>Ja det er mange fordeler. Uavhengighet, stabilitet, åpenhet, standarder
6107 osv. Tror det er viktig at man ikke begrenser mulighetene på den plattformen
6108 elevene skal jobbe.
</p
>
6110 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
6112 <p
>Det største hinderet er det vi opplever på andre områder rundt
6113 fri programvare, nemlig kunnskap. For mange er det trygt å velge det vi
6114 alltid har valgt. Fordi leverandørene rundt oss sitter på den kunnskapen og
6115 de vi støtter oss på har den samme. Hvis vi klarer å riste løs litt og
6116 glemme gamle kriger mellom operativsystemer og leverandører, men sette ned
6117 hva som er viktig og velge ut fra det, så hadde man kanskje kommet ut med
6118 litt andre resultat. Jeg tror IT-folk er konservative og velger tradisjonelt
6119 og det er synd.
</p
>
6121 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
6123 <p
>Jeg bruker Ubuntu, Android, Jolicloud, Open Office, Zimbra, Picasa
6124 og Firefox samt en bråte med tjenester som er webbasert. Det eneste
6125 som er betalingslisens for er OSX. Ser at jeg jobber mer og mer i
6126 skyen og setter pris på alt jeg slipper egen klient til. Derfor er
6127 jeg veldig sjarmert av små kjappe operativsystemer som krever minimalt
6128 av maskinvaren.
</p
>
6130 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
6131 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
6133 <p
>Tror en blanding av krav og informasjon er veien å gå. Krav om
6134 sikkerhet, oppetid og åpne standarder. Informasjon om muligheter og
6135 alternativer. Her har leverandører, IT-avdelinger og pedagoger en vei
6136 å gå sammen. Det er til slutt LÆRING det dreier seg om, og da må man
6137 få mest mulig læring for pengene man har.
</p
>
6142 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Sturle Sunde
</title>
6143 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Sturle_Sunde.html
</link>
6144 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Sturle_Sunde.html
</guid>
6145 <pubDate>Wed,
19 Jan
2011 12:
00:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
6146 <description><p
>Denne gang har jeg fått tak i en mangeårig unix-mann som etter
6147 mange år ved Universitetet i Oslo, der jeg først traff ham, har
6148 flyttet tilbake til vestlandet, og der bidratt til å revitalisere
6149 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>-oppsettet i
6152 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
6154 <p
>Sturle Sunde, ansvarleg for skulenettet i Flora kommune. Eg driv,
6155 vidareutviklar og er andrelinje brukarstøtte for datanettet ved
6156 skulane i Flora kommune.
10 skular og meir enn
700 maskiner med
6157 Linux, medrekna tynnklientar. Tidlegare jobba eg i mange år med
6158 unix-drift ved Universitetets senter for informasjonsteknologi ved
6159 Universitetet i Oslo.
</p
>
6161 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
6163 <p
>Det er vanskeleg å svare konkret på. Eg har drive med Unix og Linux i
6164 alle år, og Skulelinux er eit godt kjent prosjekt i miljøet. Det var
6165 først i
2008, då eg tok til i min noverande jobb, at eg fekk bruk for
6166 Skulelinux for alvor.
</p
>
6168 <p
>Jobben min skulle vere drift av eit nytt skulenett i Flora kommune,
6169 levert av eit firma eg ikkje vil reklamere for. Systemet skulle vere
6170 ferdig levert i september året før. Dette viste seg å ta mykje lenger
6171 tid, og i haustferien
2008 hadde dei endå ikkje klart å få opp ei
6172 fungerande løysing. Situasjonen var prekær for den største skulen i
6173 kommunen med meir enn
500 elevar på ungdomssteget. Skulen hadde brukt
6174 Skulelinux før, og var tilfredse med det. No hadde dei vore utan
6175 fungerande datasystem i nesten eit år. Difor fekk eg opp ein ny tenar
6176 utanfor prosjektet og installerte Skulelinux på den. Etter litt
6177 justering av konfigurasjonen med god hjelp av #skolelinux på IRC, var
6178 den nye tenaren oppe og gjekk med både tynne og halv-tjukke klientar.
6179 Autentisering gjekk mot det nye systemet, slik at elevar og lærarar
6180 framleis har same brukarnamn og passord over alt. Dette berre
6181 fungerte, og vi bestemte oss for å erstatte delar av løysinga vi
6182 skulle få levert med Skulelinux.
</p
>
6184 <p
>Det høyrer med til historia at det nye systemet eg skulle drive frå
6185 januar
2008 endå ikkje er ferdig levert. Dei jobbar med saka, seier
6186 dei, og har von om å fullføre leveransen i løpet av
2011.
</p
>
6188 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
6190 <p
>Det er veldig mange. Eg skal ta nokre få.
</p
>
6192 <p
>Den viktigaste fordelen er at det igrunn berre er ei maskin å passe
6193 på, og det er tenaren. Med andre løysingar har ein gjerne programvare
6194 og anna som skal vedlikehaldast på kvar enkelt maskin. Med Skulelinux
6195 kan alle feil rettast og alle program oppgraderast på alle maskiner
6196 samstundes ved å gjere endringa som må til på tenaren. Eg kan sitje
6197 på kontoret og passe på alle tenarane i kommunen derifrå.
</p
>
6201 <li
>Tynne klientar gjer det mogleg å bruke eldre utstyr lenge, so lenge
6202 tenaren er sterk nok. Ein liten tenar med eit par halv-moderne CPUar
6203 og
2 GiB RAM held lenge for eit typisk klasserom med
30 tynnklientar,
6204 og det er lett å utvide med fleire.
6206 <li
>Halvtjukke klientar gjer det mogleg å utnytte kapasiteten i litt
6207 nyare maskiner betre, og avlaste tenaren. Ingenting vert installert
6208 lokalt på desse heller, og harddisken kan gjerne koblast frå. Gode
6209 halvtjukke klientar kan kjøpast brukt for under
1000-lappen, og det er
6210 heile kostnaden. Ingen lisensar eller anna på toppen, og det er ikkje
6211 krav til kraftigare tenar heller.
6213 <li
>Det er Linux. Vi har ikkje noko kluss med drivarar, dei berre er
6214 der. Heller ikkje med virus, dei finst i realiteten ikkje. Eller med
6215 elevar som klussar med installert programvare, for dei klarar ikkje å
6216 øydeleggje for nokon andre enn seg sjølve.
6220 <p
>Skulelinux er lagt opp til å vere veldig lett å installere rett ut
6221 av boksen på ein heil skule av ein interessert lærar. Det er ofte ei
6222 god løysing for skulen. Å ha nokon til stades som kjenner systemet og
6223 kan forklare enkle ting eller løyse problem der og då, er uvurderleg
6224 viktig for ein stressa lærar fem minutt før det ringer inn.
</p
>
6226 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
6228 <p
>All den ferdige konfigurasjonen gjer det tungvint å tilpasse
6229 Skulelinux til eit system som skal fungere saman med mange andre
6230 installasjonar i eit felles datanett for skulane i ein kommune. Det
6231 heile er prekonfigurert for ein skule, og utviding til mange skular
6232 med eigne tenarar er ikkje berre enkelt.
</p
>
6234 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
6236 <p
>Eg brukar mest alle små hjelpeprogram som føl med operativsystemet,
6237 samt scriptspråket perl. Elles er Firefox/Iceweasel, Gnome-terminal
6238 og ssh i kontinuerleg bruk. Av Linux-distribusjonar brukar eg både
6239 Debian, Ubuntu, SuSE og RedHat dagleg. Eg prøvar å finne det verktyet
6240 som passar best til kvar del av jobben.
</p
>
6242 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
6243 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
6245 <p
>Det er to målgrupper ein må sikte mot. Det eine er alle skulane som
6246 manglar eller har eit lite tilfredsstillande opplegg i dag, og ikkje
6247 har råd til å kjøpe noko nytt og blankpussa opplegg. Der er det om å
6248 gjere å gjere det enkelt for skulane å finne Skulelinux, og gjere det
6249 enkelt for dei å få hjelp til installasjon på skulen. Gjerne med
6250 lokale kontaktpersonar. Her er det dugnadsinnsats som må til, for
6251 desse skulane har ikkje råd til å betale for dette.
</p
>
6253 <p
>Den andre og kanskje viktigare målgruppa er dei meir eller mindre
6254 profesjonelle kundane. Alle store offentlege innkjøp, inkludert
6255 innkjøp av nytt datasystem for skular, må ut på offentleg anbod.
6256 Offentlege anbod er mykje meir lukka enn dei gjev inntrykk av, og både
6257 regelboka og boka med triks for å sminke tilbodet er tjukk. Det er
6258 vanskeleg å komme inn utan eit solid salsapparat i ryggen. Kanskje
6259 Skulelinux skulle prøve aktivt å få seg eit partnarskap med eit av dei
6260 store som gjerne vil sterkare inn på den offentlege IT-marknaden?
6261 Nokon som kjenner triksa og har krefter til å ta opp kampen mot både
6262 dårlege anbod og Rudolf Blostrupmoen IT AS. Leveranse til skulane i
6263 ein kommune er ein god måte å få ein fot inn døra som leverandør til
6264 ein lukrativ kommunemarknad som kjøper alle tenester. Ta kontakt med
6265 nokon som er passeleg store og ikkje er Microsoft-partnar, og fortell:
6266 «Vi har eit ferdig produkt som du kan selje. Nei vi skal ikkje ha for
6267 det. Du kan gjerne gjere kva du vil med det, berre vi får lov til å
6268 hjelpe deg. Målgruppa er alle kommunar, og det er noko dei vil ha.
6269 Det er eit godt produkt, brukt av mange og godt likt.»
</p
>
6274 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Embrik Kaslegard
</title>
6275 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Embrik_Kaslegard.html
</link>
6276 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Embrik_Kaslegard.html
</guid>
6277 <pubDate>Sun,
16 Jan
2011 12:
00:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
6278 <description><p
>Neste ut i min intervjuserie med folk i
6279 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinuxprosjektet
</a
> er
6280 lærer, mangeårig bidragsyter på epostlistene og tidligere
6281 Skolelinux-administrator på en skole i Hemsedal.
</p
>
6283 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
6285 <p
>Embrik Kaslegard,
1964-modell, fire barn (
7-
20 år). Begynte som
6286 lærer i
1989 - har hatt IKT-ansvar siden første året i jobb. Har
6287 jobbet som lærer/IKT-ansvarlig uavbrutt siden
1989. Jobbet med
6288 Skolelinux fra
2004 til
2010. Nå har jeg fått ny arbeidsplass og er
6289 40% lærer og
60% IKT med Windows XP, Win2003 server og et regionalt
6290 IKT-regime som legger premissene og begrensingene for hva vi kan gjøre
6291 på skolen.
</p
>
6293 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
6295 <p
>Jeg leste en artikkel om en dugnadsinstallasjon av Skolelinux på en
6296 skole på Jæren et sted. Tanken om dugnad og frihet appellerte til
6297 meg. Da vi skulle bygge ny skole var det en del vi måtte spare på,
6298 fordi vi beveget oss mot en kostnadssprekk. Kabling og investering i
6299 PC-er var en av tingene vi sparte på. Derfor kjøpe vi
72 pc-er for
390
6300 pr stk. En filtjener og en applikasjonsserver.
</p
>
6302 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
6304 <p
>Fordelen er at så mye er satt opp fra starten. I tillegg er det
6305 tydelig at pakka er laga for skoleverket. Brukerne har egne
6306 skrivebord, tilgang på mange gode verktøyprogrammer. Vi slipper å
6307 tenke på virus. Brukerne har ikke mulighet til å ødelegge
6308 klientoppsett, men har gode muligheter til å endre eget oppsett. Dette
6309 tror jeg er inspirerende og kjekt for mange brukere. Mappestrukturen
6310 er ferdig og det er
"enkelt
" å designe lokale mappestrukturer via
6311 skeleton. Noen av oss i skoleverket mener skolen skal være en
6312 "mot-kultur
". Da er Skolelinux et av valgene man kan ta. Et annet er å
6313 spise på indisk restaurant i stedet for Mc Donald
's når vi er på bytur
6314 osv.. Ordene deling, frihet, dugnad osv er positive ord i
6315 skoleverket. Det er viktig at elevene blir bevisst dette.
</p
>
6317 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
6319 <p
>Kompabiliteten er selvsagt et problem, selv om det er mindre nå enn
6320 før. For IKT-personer på skolene som skal drifte dette er det
6321 problematisk med kommandoer i terminalen. I tillegg er det alt for
6322 mange programmer i Skolelinux som ikke blir brukt. Jeg tror
6323 Skolelinux er tjent med å tone ned begrepet pedagogisk programvare.
6324 Slik jeg ser det finnes ikke denne kategorien programmer lengre slik
6325 de gjorde før, som frittsående programmer som installeres på en
6326 datamaskin eller på serveren. Det finnes en del spesialpedagogiske
6327 programmer, som Textpilot, LingDys, LingRight, AskiRaski, Ny i Norge
6328 osv. Men dette er programmer for enkelt-elever eller små grupper av
6329 elever. Det som bør være fokus er at alle undervisningsressurser som
6330 lages for nettet skal være nettleseruavhengig.
</p
>
6332 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
6334 <p
>OpenOffice bruker jeg til vanlig kontorarbeide. VLC bruker jeg som
6335 videoavspiller og av og til streaming av film. Gimp bruker jeg i
6336 undervisningen til bildemanipulering. Firefox og Chrome er mine
6337 favoritt-nettlesere. Firefox har lenge vært førstevalget mitt, nå
6338 bruker jeg mest Chrome. Opplever den som raskere og smidigere enn
6339 Firefox. Ubuntu bruker jeg som dualboot på jobb-maskinen min i
6340 tillegg til at alle PCer hjemme har en eller annen Ubuntu-distribusjon
6341 installert. Jeg bruker Clonezilla på Ubuntu
10.04 til kloning av
6342 datamaskiner på jobb. Det er selvsagt en haug andre frie programmer
6343 jeg bruker men jeg bruker dem ikke daglig. Jeg kan ramse opp:
6344 recordmydesktop, cinelerra, acidrip, soundjuicer, audacity, NX
6345 (no-machine), Kino, Rythmbox...
</p
>
6347 <p
><strong
>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
6348 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong
></p
>
6350 <p
>Jeg tror oppsøkende virksomhet er den rette strategien.
6351 Ressurspersoner gjør avtaler med rådmenn, skolesjefer, rektorer. Det
6352 er slik konkurrentene gjør det. Fokuset i slike samtaler bør være
6353 kost-nytte. Dersom personer med økonomisk ansvar ser at de kan få
6354 like godt tilbud til mindre utgifter, tror jeg det er mulighet til å
6355 få innpass. Dersom de også kan få konkrete tilbud på drift i slike
6356 samtaler, vil de kanskje bli litt mer interesserte i hvor mye penger
6357 som faktisk går til IKT i skolene. Det er også viktig at vi ikke
6358 firer for mye på krav til datamaskiner. Det er flott at Skolelinux
6359 går på
"utrangert
" utstyr, men dette bør bare presenteres som et
6360 alternativ. Skolelinux-installasjoner med utrangert utstyr er ikke å
6361 foretrekke dersom man kan unngå det. Det skaper ikke entusiasme hos
6362 brukerne (elever og lærere) når de bruker gamle datamaskiner som går
6363 tregt. Det er kjempefint med skoler som har kommet seg frem til
6364 Skolelinux og fri programvare av seg selv, men de lever på nåde.
6365 Slike valg må fundamenteres hos skoleeier.
</p
>
6367 <p
>Oppdatering
2011-
01-
16 22:
40: Oppdatert svarene for de tre siste
6368 spørsmålene litt mer tekst fra Embrik.
</p
>
6373 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Viggo Fedreheim
</title>
6374 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Viggo_Fedreheim.html
</link>
6375 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Viggo_Fedreheim.html
</guid>
6376 <pubDate>Wed,
12 Jan
2011 12:
00:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
6377 <description><p
>Jeg fortsetter min intervjuserie med folk i
6378 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinuxprosjektet
</a
>. Denne
6379 gang er det en av folkene som har vært med lenge og som har tatt i
6380 bruk Skolelinux på alle skolene i Narvik kommune som skal i ilden.
6381 Han er styremedlem i
6382 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">foreningen
6383 FRISK
</a
>.
</p
>
6385 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
6387 <p
>Mitt navn er Viggo Fedreheim, og jeg er pedagogisk og teknisk
6388 IKT-veileder for alle skoler i Narvik kommune. Jeg drifter totalt
17
6389 servere basert på Skolelinux og Debian. Jeg holder i tillegg noen kurs
6390 mellom all driftingen. For tiden arbeider jeg med en sentral
6391 LDAP-tjener for alle skoleservere samt våre Moodle- og
6392 Joomla-installasjoner.
</p
>
6394 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
6396 <p
>Gjennom en eller annen nettavis i
2001 der var det skrevet om
6397 Skolelinux. Artikkelen ga meg lyst til å prøve ut systemet.
</p
>
6399 <p
>Det startet i
2002 ved at jeg installerte en av de første utgavene
6400 av Skolelinux på en standard pc på Solneset skole i Tromsø. Denne var
6401 oppe fram til desember
2003 da jeg sluttet på den skolen og begynte i
6402 ny jobb i Narvik kommune.
</p
>
6404 <p
> I Narvik kommune var det i
2004 kun
2 servere på da totalt
15
6405 skoler. Disse var Windows NT baserte. På disse to skolene var det lite
6406 med maskiner. Jobben med å få Narvik Kommune opp på akseptabelt nivå
6407 virket å være formidabel. Men med hjelp av gode kollegaer og leder
6408 skrev jeg en IKT plan for Narvik kommune som ble vedtatt av politikere
6409 i august
2004. I denne planen ble det bestemt at Narvik kommune skulle
6410 bruke Skolelinux. Her ble det også satt av midler til kabling av god
6411 infrastruktur på alle skoler samt innkjøp av nye datamaskiner. Så i
6412 dag har vi
17 servere hvorav
13 er på Skolelinux, med ca
1500 klienter
6413 basert på tynne,
"halvtykke
" og et stort antall bærbare pcer basert på
6416 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
6418 <p
>Lisenskostnader, driftkostnader og hardwarekrav som er mye lavere
6419 enn for andre systemer.
</p
>
6421 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
6423 <p
>Pedagogiske programvare som ikke fungerer mot Linux. En Stoooor
6424 flaskehals og som gjør at Linux kanskje ikke blir valgt andre
6427 <p
>Eksempler er Relemo, Lindys (lingit sine programmer),
5plus
6428 (matematikk). Disse er programmer som ikke lar seg kjøre i Linux.
</p
>
6430 <p
> Men det ser ut for at mange leverandører går over til mer
6431 nettbaserte programmer istedet for å installere lokalt. Dette med
6432 enkelte leverandører som ikke kan levere programmer til Linux er et
6433 lite problem og over tid tror jeg at denne barrieren er borte.
</p
>
6435 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
6437 <p
>Kjører Kubuntu på laptoper, Debian squeeze på stasjonær
6438 kontorpc. Ut over dette arbeder jeg svært mye via konsoll mot andre
6444 <title>Skolelinux-intervju: Arnt Ove Gregersen
</title>
6445 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Arnt_Ove_Gregersen.html
</link>
6446 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Arnt_Ove_Gregersen.html
</guid>
6447 <pubDate>Sun,
9 Jan
2011 12:
00:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
6448 <description><p
>Inspirert av
6449 <a href=
"http://raphaelhertzog.com/tag/interview/
">intervjurunden
</a
>
6450 som Raphael Hertzog har startet med folk i Debianprosjektet, fikk jeg
6451 lyst til å gjøre det samme med folk i
6452 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinuxprosjektet
</a
>. Håpet
6453 er at de som til daglig bidrar til å fremme fri programvare i
6454 skoleverket og utvikler en linux-distribusjon spesiallaget for
6455 skolebruk kan bli bedre kjent og kanskje inspirere flere til å bidra
6456 til Skolelinux-prosjektet.
</p
>
6458 <p
>Først ut er nyvalgt leder i
6459 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">foreningen FRISK
</a
> som
6460 organiserer utviklingen av Skolelinux-distribusjonen. FRISK trenger
6461 alltid flere medlemmer, så
6462 <a href=
"http://medlem.friprogramvareiskolen.no/index.php?page=signup
">meld
6463 deg gjerne inn
</a
> hvis du vil støtte oss.
</p
>
6465 <p
><strong
>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
6467 <p
><!-- Mitt navn er Arnt Ove Gregersen, jeg er en småbarnfar på
32 år som
6468 for tiden bor Trondheim. --
>
6469 Mitt navn er Arnt Ove Gregersen, jeg er
32 år og bor for tiden i Trondheim.
6471 Her jobber jeg som systemutvikler i et firma
6472 som heter
<a href=
"http://www.geomatikk-ikt.no/
">Geomatikk IKT AS
</a
>,
6473 hvor jeg er på et Vegmeldings-prosjekt for Statens Vegvesen. På
6474 fritiden er jeg styreleder i FRISK (Fri programvare i skolen) og
6475 bidrar til bl.a. Skolelinux-prosjektet når jeg får tid til det. Det er
6476 primært hjemmesiden til Skolelinux-prosjektet og
6477 <a href=
"http://linuxveiviseren.no/
">Linux-veiviseren
</a
> jeg har
6478 jobbet med her, men jeg har også gjort en del arbeid i forhold til
6479 FRISK sin hjemmeside.
</p
>
6481 <p
><strong
>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong
></p
>
6483 <p
>Jeg var på en presentasjon av prosjektet i regi av Knut Yrvin på
6484 Gløshaugen i Trondheim, hvor jeg fattet stor interesse for prosjektet
6485 og ville hjelpe til så godt jeg kunne. Dette var vel i
2002 eller
6488 <p
>Jeg hadde fra før hørt om prosjektet fra før og syntes tanken bak var
6489 ganske fin, men hadde ikke noen interesse av bruke min egen fritid på
6492 <p
>I etterkant av presentasjonen startet jeg og noen andre fra
6493 Trondheim
"Skolelinux-prosjektet i Sør-Trøndelag
" . Hvor vi var med å
6494 bidra til at Trondheim kommune satte igang Selsbakk ungdomskole som et
6495 pilotprosjekt med Skolelinux, som egentlig var og er en stor suksess,
6496 men det virker ut som det ikke skjer noe mer på. I tillegg var vi med
6497 på dugnad på Brundalen videregående skole hvor vi installerte
6498 Skolelinux som såvidt jeg vet fortsatt kjører på Skolelinux.
</p
>
6500 <p
><strong
>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
6502 <p
>Det bygger på fri programvare og har lav kostnad i forhold til
6503 nytteverdien. Dette fordi det har forholdsvis lav inngangsum og bruker
6504 en arkitektur med sentral-drift som gir mange driftfordeler. I
6505 tillegg vil det kunne frigjøre kostnader for skolene slik at de kan
6506 bruke dem til å ansette f,eks flere lærere om det er ønskelig.
</p
>
6508 <p
><strong
>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong
></p
>
6510 <P
>Ikke all pedagogisk programvare er tilgjengelig der, som f.eks
6511 Drillpro om jeg ikke husker feil.
</p
>
6513 <p
><strong
>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong
></p
>
6515 <p
>Til utvikling av Java-applikasjoner og Android bruker jeg Eclipse og
6516 Quanta til web-utvikling via php. For all bildebehandling bruker jeg
6517 GIMP og Blender til
3d-modellering . Dessverre har Blender en bratt
6518 læringskurve i starten, men det er absolutt verdt det.
6520 <p
>Til musikk bruker jeg stort Rhytmbox. Firefox til surfing på nettet og
6521 Thunderbird og Evolution til e-post,
6523 <p
>På database-siden bruker jeg PostgreSQL, Postgis og av og til Mysql.
6525 <p
>Når jeg får tid til å spille bruker jeg som regel et strategi-spill
6526 som er basert på TA Spring-motoren (springrts.com), her er det et
6527 veldig bra utvalg av gratis spill som er av høy kvalitet. Veldig lett
6528 å bli hektet :)
</p
>
6533 <title>Inspirerende fra en ukjent Skolelinux-skole
</title>
6534 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Inspirerende_fra_en_ukjent_Skolelinux_skole.html
</link>
6535 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Inspirerende_fra_en_ukjent_Skolelinux_skole.html
</guid>
6536 <pubDate>Tue,
4 Jan
2011 07:
50:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
6537 <description><p
>Følgende inspirerende historie fant jeg i
6538 <a href=
"http://www.digi.no/php/ny_debatt.php?id=
858869#innlegg_770926
">kommentarfeltet
6539 hos digi.no
</a
> i forbindelse med en trist sak om hvordan
6540 <a href=
"http://www.digi.no/
858869/datakaos-etter-linux-satsing
">skolen
6541 i Hemsedal har fått ødelagt
</a
> sin Skolelinux-installasjon. Jeg har
6542 fikset endel åpenbare skrivefeil for lesbarhetens skyld.
</p
>
6545 <p
><strong
>Lignende situasjon i annen kommune, se bare her:
</strong
>
6546 <br
>av Inspektør Siri (gjest)
6548 <p
>Kommunen min har to omtrent jevnstore tettsteder, og en
6549 ungdomsskole i hvert av tettstedene. Den minste av disse har ca
300
6550 elever og til denne sogner det
3 barneskoler. Den største har ca
350
6551 elever og til denne sogner det
4 barneskoler.
</p
>
6555 <li
>Kommunen har i veldig lang tid forsømt IKT i skolen, og det har
6556 bare blitt gitt smuler i ny og ne. Det er kun den største av
6557 ungdomsskolene som har hatt en skikkelig datapark, og dette takket
6558 være en naturfaglærer som ble lei av å vente på kommunen. Det gjorde
6559 at vi bestemte oss for å ta ting i egne hender, og da vha
6560 skolelinux. En testinstallasjon med
10 gamle PCer ble gjort, og vi så
6561 raskt at dette var veldig lovende. Neste etappe var å gi alle lærere
6562 egen PC på arbeidsplassene sine (
2004), og så sette opp
16 PCer på to
6563 datarom. Vi har kun basert oss på å kjøpe inn brukte maskiner, og
6564 aldri dyrere enn
1000 kr pr klient. For to år siden så hadde vi
6565 klienter i alle klasserom, og totalt hadde vi da rundt
250 stk. Rundt
6566 40 klienter brukes av lærerne og kjører på en egen server. Elvene har
6567 resten, og kjører også en egen server. Servere har vi også kjøpt
6568 brukt,
2 år gamle servere koster
6-
7000 kroner.
</li
>
6570 <li
>Skolen vår er et relativt gammelt bygg, men en meget dyktig
6571 vaktmester har sammen med IKT-ansvarlig/Naturfaglærer lagt kabler til alle
6572 rom. Gradvis har vi byttet ut billige svitsjer med mer solide saker
6573 som er mulig å fjernstyre.
</li
>
6575 <li
>Vi har i all hovedsak greid å få dette til over eget budsjett, men
6576 vi har også passet på å få penger når de andre skolene har fått
6577 bærbare PCer til lærere osv.
</li
>
6579 <li
>Vår IKT-ansvarlig har gjort (og gjør) en fenomenal jobb, og vi har
6580 en maskinpark som de andre av kommunens skoler bare kan drømme
6585 <p
>Så skjer det som ofte skjer. Det kommer en eller annen
6586 selger/blåruss og skal fikse ALT. I vårt tilfelle betyr dette også
6587 sentralisering av drift. Den ny-ansatte på kommunens IT-avdelingen
6588 skal også ha jobb, og ser for seg å ta over skoledriften. Kommunen
6589 kjøper inn eksterne driftstjenester, og nekter i samme slengen å ta
6590 hensyn til skolen vår. Dette til tross for at vi alene har like mange
6591 datamaskiner som de andre til sammen.
</p
>
6595 <li
>Det blir krevd at vi skal innlemmes i de kommunale systemet, og
6596 det er VI som får ansvar for at dette kommer på plass. Og det er her
6597 de horrible tingene begynner å skje.
</li
>
6599 <li
>Det settes opp en lukket Exchange server som gjør av vi ikke kan
6600 hente epost for våre ansatte. Og det kreves at vi finner løsning på
6603 <li
>Det velges sak arkivsystem som vi pålegges å bruke, noe som gjør
6604 at vi må bruke en terminalløsning mot kommunal server. Ikke i seg selv
6605 et problem i følge IKT-ansvarlig hos oss. Men kommunens IT-avd nektet
6606 faktisk å åpne de porter OSV som vi måtte bruke.
</li
>
6608 <li
>Vi blir pålagt å flytte på innsiden av det kommunale
6609 nettverket. Dette gjorde at vi mistet hjemmekontor for lærere og
6610 elever. Å få åpnet porter i kommunal brannmur var ikke
6611 aktuelt. Mulighet for fjerndrift ble også vekk i samme slengen.
</li
>
6613 <li
>Vår LMS Moodle er ikke mulig å nå for elevene og lærerne.
6617 <p
>Den andre ungdomsskolen i kommunen begynner så å kreve at de skal
6618 få bedre datatetthet, og komme opp på et nivå som ligner det vi
6619 har. De ser at vi kan avholde eksamen hvor alle
10. klassingene får
6620 sitte ved hver sin PC. Og de har fått tilbakemelding (klager) fra VGS
6621 om manglende datakompetanse på elevene som kommer fra dem. Dette fører
6622 videre til at kommunen endelig innser at de må ta grep.
</p
>
6624 <p
>Grepet betyr sentralisering, og farvel til vår plattform får vi
6625 høre. Det blir gjort en rekke bestemmelser og vedtak som vi ikke får
6626 være en del av. Det blir helt klart at vi må redusere antall maskiner,
6627 og det skal satses på bærbare maskiner. Siden vi ikke har fått tatt
6628 del i prosessene som angår oss, så bruker vi fagforening. Vi har ikke
6629 blitt hørt i forbindelse med endringer som er betydelig for vår
6630 hverdag, og greier å stoppe omlegging. I tillegg så har vi et politisk
6631 vedtak i kommunen på at vi skal kjøre Linux på elevnett, og dette
6632 vedtaket kan ikke administrasjonen i kommunene helt uten videre
6633 tilsidesette.
</p
>
6635 <p
>I sum har dette gjort at vi har fått jobbe videre i fred. Og en del
6636 runder i kommunens kontrollutvalg har gjort det tydelig at vi har blitt
6637 systematisk motarbeidet.
</p
>
6639 <p
>I dag har de andre skolene fått sine bærbare maskiner til elever og
6640 lærere, men etter
2 år med innkjøring er det fremdeles problemer
6645 <li
>Ungdomsskolen med windows kan ikke kjøre eksamen med sine bærbare,
6646 det er for mye arbeid å renske disse for innhold slik at juks ikke er
6649 <li
>Utskrift er et mareritt, etter sigende pga at utskrift først
6650 sendes til sentral server, og så sendes ut til rett skriver. I snitt
6651 så tar det
7-
8 minutter før utskrift starter på enkelte av
6654 <li
>Trådløst skaper store problemer, og det er i perioder helt umulig
6655 å komme seg på nett. Og lagring på felles server er bare å glemme i
6656 perioder.
</li
>
6660 <p
>Vi har slitt mye, kranglet og sloss. Ikke med tekniske problemer,
6661 men med omgivelsene rundt som vil oss til livs. Men det har vært verdt
6662 hver dråpe med svette, og timer med irritasjon. Men vi har begynt å få
6663 rutine her nå.
</p
>
6667 <li
>Vi har fremdeles et system som vi styrer helt selv.
</li
>
6668 <li
>Vi har vist at argumentet med at vår IKT-ansvarlig kan finne seg annen jobb ikke holder mål. Vi har kjøpt driftskonto hos et firma i tilfelle krise, og vi har kjørt opplæring på flere av de yngre lærerne.
</li
>
6669 <li
>Vi har til enhver tid en lærling IKT driftsfag, og velger selvsagt ut dem som satser på Linux. Vi har nå begynt å få tilbake av våre tidligere elever som vil til oss nettopp fordi vi har Linux.
</li
>
6670 <li
>Vi har vist at vi greier å opprettholde en dobbelt så stor datapark som naboskolen, og det til en billigere penge.
</li
>
6671 <li
>Vi har datastøtte og support på huset, ALLTID tilgjengelig. De andre skolene må vente flere dager hvis det ikke er noe kritisk.
</li
>
6672 <li
>Vår IKT-ansvarlig har
50% stilling som lærer og
50% som IKT-ansvarlig.
</li
>
6673 <li
>Vi har en lærer på hvert trinn som har
3 timer i uka til å drive support/støtte til de andre lærerne.
</li
>
6674 <li
>Vi opplever at de yngste lærerne ved den andre ungdomsskolen ønsker seg over til oss.
</li
>
6678 <p
>Vi skal i løpet av året starte prosess med å planlegge ny skole, og vi har fått gjennomslag for at jeg (inspektør) og IKT-ansvarlig skal ha det fulle og hele ansvar for IKT/Infrastruktur. Begrunnelsen vår som ble avgjørende her, var at IT-avd i kommunen ikke kan noe om data i skolen.
</p
>
6680 <p
>Beklager hvis dette ble litt usammenhengende, men det ble tastet i
6681 fei, og jeg har ikke lest gjennom
</p
>
6684 <p
>Det kom raskt et lite svar:
</p
>
6687 <p
><strong
>SV: Lignende situasjon i annen kommune, se bare her:
</strong
>
6688 <br
>av captain_obvious
</p
>
6690 <p
>Inspirerende å lese. Har dere gjort noe for å fortelle denne
6691 historien videre?
</p
>
6693 <p
>Hadde vært svært interessant om dere tok kontakt med dokument
2 eller
6694 lignende for å fortelle hvordan det egentlig står til med
6695 IT-satsningen i kommune-Norge. Om ikke annet kan du begynner med å
6696 raffinere innlegget ditt og få en gjesteartikkel på digi.no
</p
>
6699 <p
>Og deretter en lengre oppfølging.
</p
>
6702 <p
><strong
>SV: Lignende situasjon i annen kommune, se bare her:
</strong
>
6703 <br
>av Inspektør Siri (gjest)
6705 <p
>Joda, vi har lekt med tanken, og vi har t.o.m skrevet flere lengre
6706 leserinnlegg myntet på aviser. Disse er ikke sendt til aviser, men
6707 brukt internt i forbindelse med møter med kommune. Vår IKT-ansvarlig
6708 har også truet med å si opp jobben sin hvis det ikke ble tatt hensyn i
6709 større grad enn hva som har vært tilfelle. VI kan også dokumentere
6710 flere brudd på anbudsregler, og vi kjenner til at relativt store
6711 IT-leverandører som ikke har fått tatt del i disse anbudene, rett og
6712 slett ikke tør melde fra av redsel for å få et dårlig rykte.
</p
>
6714 <p
>Alt ser ut til å roe seg ned, og vi har fått opp øynene på
6715 politikerne. I sum gjør dette at vi ikke ønsker for mye publisitet nå,
6716 det vil bare rote til igjen.
</p
>
6718 <p
>Jeg glemte å nevne at vi nå nesten ikke bruker tid på å drifte
6719 systemet vårt, noe som gjør at det aller meste av tid blir brukt til å
6720 støtte lærerne og elevene. F.eks så bruker vår IKT-ansvarlig den
6721 første timen på jobb,
0730-
0830 kun til å gå ute på arbeidsplassene
6722 til læreren. Dette for å kunne svare på små og store problem, gi tips
6723 og råd, eller bare for å plukke opp hva som er behovet ute i
6724 undervisningsarealene. Det er dessverre ikke slik at alle lærerne har
6725 nok digital kompetanse til å kunne formulere alle spørsmålene de har,
6726 men ved å kunne få vise eller lufte tanker med IKT-ansvarlig så er det
6727 utrolig hva som kommer fram.
</p
>
6731 <li
>Jeg ser at mange bruker økonomi som argument i forhold til å bruke
6732 SkoleLinux, og jeg skal ikke legge skjul på at det var dette som i
6733 utgangspunktet var årsaken til vårt valg. Men diskusjonene og kampen
6734 med kommunens IT-avdeling har gjort at vi har fått et noe annet
6735 fokus. Fordelene med drift og stabilitet, gjør at vi ville ha valgt
6736 samme løsning selv om den var dyrere. At vi slipper langt billigere
6737 unna, som følge av
0,- lisenskostnader og lave maskinvarekostnader, er
6738 bare en bonus.
</li
>
6740 <li
>Etter å ha kranglet oss til å få skikkelig oversikt over hva de
6741 andre skolene i kommunen bruker på IT, så har vi fått gehør for å få
6742 samme midler til innkjøp. Dette har gjort at vi nå kan kjøpe inn
6743 utstyr som de andre skolene bare kan se langt etter. Vi har nettopp
6744 kjøpt inn
3 videokamera i semiproff-klassen for å kunne lage film,
6745 samt sende live fra skoleteater/konserter. Vi har kjøpt inn digitale
6746 kompaktkamera til alle klassene. Vi har et team av lærere som skal i
6747 gang med å teste ut tablets på svake elever. Håpet et at teknologien
6748 kan være med på å gi noen av elevene litt mer motivasjon. Vi har kjøpt
6749 inn et halvt klassesett med pulsklokker, noe som har vist seg å være
6750 overraskende inspirerende for en del av elevene. Vi har også oss på
6751 fag på en høyskole litt lengre sør for oss, slik at
3 av oss nå skal
6752 ta faget
"Linux tjenestedrift
". Som inspektør og en del av skolens
6753 administrasjon er det veldig praktisk å kunne trå til hvis det
6754 kniper. Men IKT-ansvarlig har vært UTROLIG flink til å lage rene
6755 smørbrødlister for hvordan de mest vanlige driftsproblem løses, så det
6756 er lett for flere av oss å ta del i den daglige driften. Vi har svært
6757 stor nytte av lærling (som også hjelper to av naboskolene), men det er
6758 nesten blitt slik at det er om å gjøre å komme til først for å få løse
6759 problem. Det å få fingrene på problem og utfordringer er den aller
6760 beste læremester.
</li
>
6764 <p
>Når vi nå tar til med planlegging av ny skole, så vil det være med
6765 tanke på at det skal være mulig med datautstyr på alle plasser. Vi
6766 kommer i all hovedsak til å legge kabel til alle tenkelige og
6767 utenkelige plasser. WiFi koster tilnærmet NULL å sette opp i
6770 <p
>Vi har ikke vært noe flink til å bidra til SkoleLinux-prosjektet,
6771 vi har rett og slett vært for opptatt med vår egen kamp. Vi har hentet
6772 mye inspirasjon fra diskusjoner som har gått i det miljøet, og vi
6773 håper at vi nå framover kan få tid til å bidra. Vi er i ferd med å
6774 bytte ut en av serverne våre, og da vil denne trolig bli satt opp som
6775 testserver for neste versjon av Skolelinux. På den måten vil vi i alle
6776 fall kunne gi tilbakemeldinger og rapportere feil. I tillegg så vil
6777 det kanskje gi oss noen nye utfordringer, for som lærlingen vår sier:
6778 "Skolelinux er noe herk, det skjer jo ikke noe galt og hvordan skal
6779 jeg da lære?
"</p
>
6783 <p
>Det er veldig hyggelig å høre at
6784 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
> fungerer så bra i
6785 skoleverdagen etter å ha jobbet med det i
10 år.
</p
>
6790 <title>How to test if a laptop is working with Linux
</title>
6791 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/How_to_test_if_a_laptop_is_working_with_Linux.html
</link>
6792 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/How_to_test_if_a_laptop_is_working_with_Linux.html
</guid>
6793 <pubDate>Wed,
22 Dec
2010 14:
55:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
6794 <description><p
>The last few days I have spent at work here at the
<a
6795 href=
"http://www.uio.no/
">University of Oslo
</a
> testing if the new
6796 batch of computers will work with Linux. Every year for the last few
6797 years the university have organised shared bid of a few thousand
6798 computers, and this year HP won the bid. Two different desktops and
6799 five different laptops are on the list this year. We in the UNIX
6800 group want to know which one of these computers work well with RHEL
6801 and Ubuntu, the two Linux distributions we currently handle at the
6802 university.
</p
>
6804 <p
>My test method is simple, and I share it here to get feedback and
6805 perhaps inspire others to test hardware as well. To test, I PXE
6806 install the OS version of choice, and log in as my normal user and run
6807 a few applications and plug in selected pieces of hardware. When
6808 something fail, I make a note about this in the test matrix and move
6809 on. If I have some spare time I try to report the bug to the OS
6810 vendor, but as I only have the machines for a short time, I rarely
6811 have the time to do this for all the problems I find.
</p
>
6813 <p
>Anyway, to get to the point of this post. Here is the simple tests
6814 I perform on a new model.
</p
>
6818 <li
>Is PXE installation working? I
'm testing with RHEL6, Ubuntu Lucid
6819 and Ubuntu Maverik at the moment. If I feel like it, I also test with
6820 RHEL5 and Debian Edu/Squeeze.
</li
>
6822 <li
>Is X.org working? If the graphical login screen show up after
6823 installation, X.org is working.
</li
>
6825 <li
>Is hardware accelerated OpenGL working? Running glxgears (in
6826 package mesa-utils on Ubuntu) and writing down the frames per second
6827 reported by the program.
</li
>
6829 <li
>Is sound working? With Gnome and KDE, a sound is played when
6830 logging in, and if I can hear this the test is successful. If there
6831 are several audio exits on the machine, I try them all and check if
6832 the Gnome/KDE audio mixer can control where to send the sound. I
6833 normally test this by playing
6834 <a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/
20101012-chef/
">a HTML5
6835 video
</a
> in Firefox/Iceweasel.
</li
>
6837 <li
>Is the USB subsystem working? I test this by plugging in a USB
6838 memory stick and see if Gnome/KDE notices this.
</li
>
6840 <li
>Is the CD/DVD player working? I test this by inserting any CD/DVD
6841 I have lying around, and see if Gnome/KDE notices this.
</li
>
6843 <li
>Is any built in camera working? Test using cheese, and see if a
6844 picture from the v4l device show up.
</li
>
6846 <li
>Is bluetooth working? Use the Gnome/KDE browsing tool to see if
6847 any bluetooth devices are discovered. In my office, I normally see a
6850 <li
>For laptops, is the SD or Compaq Flash reader working. I have
6851 memory modules lying around, and stick them in and see if Gnome/KDE
6852 notice this.
</li
>
6854 <li
>For laptops, is suspend/hibernate working? I
'm testing if the
6855 special button work, and if the laptop continue to work after
6858 <li
>For laptops, is the extra buttons working, like audio level,
6859 adjusting background light, switching on/off external video output,
6860 switching on/off wifi, bluetooth, etc? The set of buttons differ from
6861 laptop to laptop, so I just write down which are working and which are
6864 <li
>Some laptops have smart card readers, finger print readers,
6865 acceleration sensors etc. I rarely test these, as I do not know how
6866 to quickly test if they are working or not, so I only document their
6867 existence.
</li
>
6871 <p
>By now I suspect you are really curious what the test results are
6872 for the HP machines I am testing. I
'm not done yet, so I will report
6873 the test results later. For now I can report that HP
8100 Elite work
6874 fine, and hibernation fail with HP EliteBook
8440p on Ubuntu Lucid,
6875 and audio fail on RHEL6. Ubuntu Maverik worked with
8440p. As you
6876 can see, I have most machines left to test. One interesting
6877 observation is that Ubuntu Lucid has almost twice the frame rate than
6878 RHEL6 with glxgears. No idea why.
</p
>
6883 <title>Debian Edu development gathering and General Assembly for FRiSK
</title>
6884 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_development_gathering_and_General_Assembly_for_FRiSK.html
</link>
6885 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_development_gathering_and_General_Assembly_for_FRiSK.html
</guid>
6886 <pubDate>Mon,
29 Nov
2010 18:
40:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
6887 <description><p
>On friday, the first Debian Edu / Skolelinux
6888 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/Gathering/
2010-
12-
03-
05-Oslo
">development
6889 gathering
</a
> in a long time take place here in Oslo, Norway. I
6890 really look forward to seeing all the good people working on the
6891 Squeeze release. The gathering is open for everyone interested in
6892 learning more about Debian Edu / Skolelinux.
</p
>
6894 <p
>On Saturday, the Norwegian member organization taking care of
6895 organizing these development gatherings, Fri Programvare i Skolen,
6897 <a href=
"http://friprogramvareiskolen.no/Genfors/
2010">General Assembly
6898 for
2010</a
>. Membership is open for all, and currently there are
388
6899 people registered as members. Last year
32 members cast their vote in
6900 the memberdb based election system. I hope more people find time to
6901 vote this year.
</p
>
6906 <title>Why isn
't Debian Edu using VLC?
</title>
6907 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Why_isn_t_Debian_Edu_using_VLC_.html
</link>
6908 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Why_isn_t_Debian_Edu_using_VLC_.html
</guid>
6909 <pubDate>Sat,
27 Nov
2010 11:
30:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
6910 <description><p
>In the latest issue of Linux Journal, the readers choices were
6911 presented, and the winner among the multimedia player were VLC.
6912 Personally, I like VLC, and it is my player of choice when I first try
6913 to play a video file or stream. Only if VLC fail will I drag out
6914 gmplayer to see if it can do better. The reason is mostly the failure
6915 model and trust. When VLC fail, it normally pop up a error message
6916 reporting the problem. When mplayer fail, it normally segfault or
6917 just hangs. The latter failure mode drain my trust in the program.
<p
>
6919 <p
>But even if VLC is my player of choice, we have choosen to use
6920 mplayer in
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian
6921 Edu/Skolelinux
</a
>. The reason is simple. We need a good browser
6922 plugin to play web videos seamlessly, and the VLC browser plugin is
6923 not very good. For example, it lack in-line control buttons, so there
6924 is no way for the user to pause the video. Also, when I
6925 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/BrowserMultimedia
">last
6926 tested the browser plugins
</a
> available in Debian, the VLC plugin
6927 failed on several video pages where mplayer based plugins worked. If
6928 the browser plugin for VLC was as good as the gecko-mediaplayer
6929 package (which uses mplayer), we would switch.
</P
>
6931 <p
>While VLC is a good player, its user interface is slightly
6932 annoying. The most annoying feature is its inconsistent use of
6933 keyboard shortcuts. When the player is in full screen mode, its
6934 shortcuts are different from when it is playing the video in a window.
6935 For example, space only work as pause when in full screen mode. I
6936 wish it had consisten shortcuts and that space also would work when in
6937 window mode. Another nice shortcut in gmplayer is [enter] to restart
6938 the current video. It is very nice when playing short videos from the
6939 web and want to restart it when new people arrive to have a look at
6940 what is going on.
</p
>
6945 <title>Lenny-
>Squeeze upgrades of the Gnome and KDE desktop, now with apt-get autoremove
</title>
6946 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades_of_the_Gnome_and_KDE_desktop__now_with_apt_get_autoremove.html
</link>
6947 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades_of_the_Gnome_and_KDE_desktop__now_with_apt_get_autoremove.html
</guid>
6948 <pubDate>Mon,
22 Nov
2010 14:
15:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
6949 <description><p
>Michael Biebl suggested to me on IRC, that I changed my automated
6950 upgrade testing of the
6951 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/~pere/debian-upgrade-testing/
">Lenny
6952 Gnome and KDE Desktop
</a
> to do
<tt
>apt-get autoremove
</tt
> when using apt-get.
6953 This seem like a very good idea, so I adjusted by test scripts and
6954 can now present the updated result from today:
</p
>
6956 <p
>This is for Gnome:
</p
>
6958 <p
>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p
>
6960 <blockquote
><p
>
6965 browser-plugin-gnash
6972 freedesktop-sound-theme
6974 gconf-defaults-service
6989 gnome-desktop-environment
6993 gnome-session-canberra
6998 gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
7004 libapache2-mod-dnssd
7007 libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3
7010 libboost-date-time1.42
.0
7011 libboost-python1.42
.0
7012 libboost-thread1.42
.0
7014 libchamplain-gtk-
0.4-
0
7016 libclutter-gtk-
0.10-
0
7023 libfreerdp-plugins-standard
7038 libgnomepanel2.24-cil
7043 libgtksourceview2.0-common
7044 libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil
7045 libmono-addins0.2-cil
7046 libmono-cairo2.0-cil
7047 libmono-corlib2.0-cil
7048 libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil
7049 libmono-posix2.0-cil
7050 libmono-security2.0-cil
7051 libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil
7052 libmono-system2.0-cil
7055 libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil
7056 libndesk-dbus1.0-cil
7066 libtelepathy-farsight0
7075 nautilus-sendto-empathy
7079 python-aptdaemon-gtk
7081 python-beautifulsoup
7096 python-gtksourceview2
7107 python-pkg-resources
7114 python-twisted-conch
7120 python-zope.interface
7125 rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder
7132 system-config-printer-udev
7134 telepathy-mission-control-
5
7145 </p
></blockquote
>
7147 <p
>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
</p
>
7149 <blockquote
><p
>
7155 fast-user-switch-applet
7174 libgtksourceview2.0-
0
7176 libsdl1.2debian-alsa
7182 system-config-printer
7187 </p
></blockquote
>
7189 <p
>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p
>
7191 <blockquote
><p
>
7192 gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
7193 </p
></blockquote
>
7195 <p
>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p
>
7197 <blockquote
><p
>
7199 </p
></blockquote
>
7201 <p
>This is for KDE:
</p
>
7203 <p
>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p
>
7205 <blockquote
><p
>
7207 </p
></blockquote
>
7209 <p
>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
</p
>
7211 <blockquote
><p
>
7214 </p
></blockquote
>
7216 <p
>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p
>
7218 <blockquote
><p
>
7232 kdeartwork-emoticons
7234 kdeartwork-theme-icon
7238 kdebase-workspace-bin
7239 kdebase-workspace-data
7253 kscreensaver-xsavers
7268 plasma-dataengines-workspace
7270 plasma-desktopthemes-artwork
7271 plasma-runners-addons
7272 plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets
7273 plasma-scriptengine-python
7274 plasma-scriptengine-qedje
7275 plasma-scriptengine-ruby
7276 plasma-scriptengine-webkit
7277 plasma-scriptengines
7278 plasma-wallpapers-addons
7279 plasma-widget-folderview
7280 plasma-widget-networkmanagement
7284 xscreensaver-data-extra
7286 xscreensaver-gl-extra
7287 xscreensaver-screensaver-bsod
7288 </p
></blockquote
>
7290 <p
>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p
>
7292 <blockquote
><p
>
7294 google-gadgets-common
7312 libggadget-qt-
1.0-
0b
7317 libkonqsidebarplugin4a
7326 libplasma-geolocation-interface4
7328 libplasmagenericshell4
7342 libsmokeknewstuff2-
3
7343 libsmokeknewstuff3-
3
7345 libsmokektexteditor3
7353 libsmokeqtnetwork4-
3
7359 libsmokeqtuitools4-
3
7371 plasma-dataengines-addons
7372 plasma-scriptengine-superkaramba
7373 plasma-widget-lancelot
7374 plasma-widgets-addons
7375 plasma-widgets-workspace
7379 update-notifier-common
7380 </p
></blockquote
>
7382 <p
>Running apt-get autoremove made the results using apt-get and
7383 aptitude a bit more similar, but there are still quite a lott of
7384 differences. I have no idea what packages should be installed after
7385 the upgrade, but hope those that do can have a look.
</p
>
7390 <title>Migrating Xen virtual machines using LVM to KVM using disk images
</title>
7391 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Migrating_Xen_virtual_machines_using_LVM_to_KVM_using_disk_images.html
</link>
7392 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Migrating_Xen_virtual_machines_using_LVM_to_KVM_using_disk_images.html
</guid>
7393 <pubDate>Mon,
22 Nov
2010 11:
20:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
7394 <description><p
>Most of the computers in use by the
7395 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu/Skolelinux project
</a
>
7396 are virtual machines. And they have been Xen machines running on a
7397 fairly old IBM eserver xseries
345 machine, and we wanted to migrate
7398 them to KVM on a newer Dell PowerEdge
2950 host machine. This was a
7399 bit harder that it could have been, because we set up the Xen virtual
7400 machines to get the virtual partitions from LVM, which as far as I
7401 know is not supported by KVM. So to migrate, we had to convert
7402 several LVM logical volumes to partitions on a virtual disk file.
</p
>
7405 <a href=
"http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com.au/articles/
35011-Six-steps-for-migrating-Xen-virtual-machines-to-KVM
">a
7406 nice recipe
</a
> to do this, and wrote the following script to do the
7407 migration. It uses qemu-img from the qemu package to make the disk
7408 image, parted to partition it, losetup and kpartx to present the disk
7409 image partions as devices, and dd to copy the data. I NFS mounted the
7410 new servers storage area on the old server to do the migration.
</p
>
7416 # http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com.au/articles/
35011-Six-steps-for-migrating-Xen-virtual-machines-to-KVM
7421 if [ -z
"$
1" ] ; then
7422 echo
"Usage: $
0 &lt;hostname
&gt;
"
7428 if [ ! -e /dev/vg_data/$host-disk ] ; then
7429 echo
"error: unable to find LVM volume for $host
"
7433 # Partitions need to be a bit bigger than the LVM LVs. not sure why.
7434 disksize=$( lvs --units m | grep $host-disk | awk
'{sum = sum + $
4} END { print int(sum *
1.05) }
')
7435 swapsize=$( lvs --units m | grep $host-swap | awk
'{sum = sum + $
4} END { print int(sum *
1.05) }
')
7436 totalsize=$(( ( $disksize + $swapsize ) ))
7439 #dd if=/dev/zero of=$img bs=
1M count=$(( $disksize + $swapsize ))
7440 qemu-img create $img ${totalsize}MMaking room on the Debian Edu/Sqeeze DVD
7442 parted $img mklabel msdos
7443 parted $img mkpart primary linux-swap
0 $disksize
7444 parted $img mkpart primary ext2 $disksize $totalsize
7445 parted $img set
1 boot on
7448 losetup /dev/loop0 $img
7449 kpartx -a /dev/loop0
7451 dd if=/dev/vg_data/$host-disk of=/dev/mapper/loop0p1 bs=
1M
7452 fsck.ext3 -f /dev/mapper/loop0p1 || true
7453 mkswap /dev/mapper/loop0p2
7455 kpartx -d /dev/loop0
7456 losetup -d /dev/loop0
7459 <p
>The script is perhaps so simple that it is not copyrightable, but
7460 if it is, it is licenced using GPL v2 or later at your discretion.
</p
>
7462 <p
>After doing this, I booted a Debian CD in rescue mode in KVM with
7463 the new disk image attached, installed grub-pc and linux-image-
686 and
7464 set up grub to boot from the disk image. After this, the KVM machines
7465 seem to work just fine.
</p
>
7470 <title>Lenny-
>Squeeze upgrades, apt vs aptitude with the Gnome and KDE desktop
</title>
7471 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__apt_vs_aptitude_with_the_Gnome_and_KDE_desktop.html
</link>
7472 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__apt_vs_aptitude_with_the_Gnome_and_KDE_desktop.html
</guid>
7473 <pubDate>Sat,
20 Nov
2010 22:
50:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
7474 <description><p
>I
'm still running upgrade testing of the
7475 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/~pere/debian-upgrade-testing/
">Lenny
7476 Gnome and KDE Desktop
</a
>, but have not had time to spend on reporting the
7477 status. Here is a short update based on a test I ran
20101118.
</p
>
7479 <p
>I still do not know what a correct migration should look like, so I
7480 report any differences between apt and aptitude and hope someone else
7481 can see if anything should be changed.
</p
>
7483 <p
>This is for Gnome:
</p
>
7485 <p
>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p
>
7487 <blockquote
><p
>
7488 apache2.2-bin aptdaemon at-spi baobab binfmt-support
7489 browser-plugin-gnash cheese-common cli-common cpp-
4.3 cups-pk-helper
7490 dmz-cursor-theme empathy empathy-common finger
7491 freedesktop-sound-theme freeglut3 gconf-defaults-service gdm-themes
7492 gedit-plugins geoclue geoclue-hostip geoclue-localnet geoclue-manual
7493 geoclue-yahoo gnash gnash-common gnome gnome-backgrounds
7494 gnome-cards-data gnome-codec-install gnome-core
7495 gnome-desktop-environment gnome-disk-utility gnome-screenshot
7496 gnome-search-tool gnome-session-canberra gnome-spell
7497 gnome-system-log gnome-themes-extras gnome-themes-more
7498 gnome-user-share gs-common gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
7499 gstreamer0.10-tools gtk2-engines gtk2-engines-pixbuf
7500 gtk2-engines-smooth hal-info hamster-applet libapache2-mod-dnssd
7501 libapr1 libaprutil1 libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap
7502 libart2.0-cil libatspi1.0-
0 libboost-date-time1.42
.0
7503 libboost-python1.42
.0 libboost-thread1.42
.0 libchamplain-
0.4-
0
7504 libchamplain-gtk-
0.4-
0 libcheese-gtk18 libclutter-gtk-
0.10-
0
7505 libcryptui0 libcupsys2 libdiscid0 libeel2-data libelf1 libepc-
1.0-
2
7506 libepc-common libepc-ui-
1.0-
2 libfreerdp-plugins-standard
7507 libfreerdp0 libgail-common libgconf2.0-cil libgdata-common libgdata7
7508 libgdl-
1-common libgdu-gtk0 libgee2 libgeoclue0 libgexiv2-
0 libgif4
7509 libglade2.0-cil libglib2.0-cil libgmime2.4-cil libgnome-vfs2.0-cil
7510 libgnome2.24-cil libgnomepanel2.24-cil libgnomeprint2.2-data
7511 libgnomeprintui2.2-common libgnomevfs2-bin libgpod-common libgpod4
7512 libgtk2.0-cil libgtkglext1 libgtksourceview-common
7513 libgtksourceview2.0-common libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil
7514 libmono-addins0.2-cil libmono-cairo2.0-cil libmono-corlib2.0-cil
7515 libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil libmono-posix2.0-cil
7516 libmono-security2.0-cil libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil
7517 libmono-system2.0-cil libmtp8 libmusicbrainz3-
6
7518 libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil libndesk-dbus1.0-cil libopal3.6
.8
7519 libpolkit-gtk-
1-
0 libpt-
1.10.10-plugins-alsa
7520 libpt-
1.10.10-plugins-v4l libpt2.6
.7 libpython2.6 librpm1 librpmio1
7521 libsdl1.2debian libservlet2.4-java libsrtp0 libssh-
4
7522 libtelepathy-farsight0 libtelepathy-glib0 libtidy-
0.99-
0
7523 libxalan2-java libxerces2-java media-player-info mesa-utils
7524 mono-
2.0-gac mono-gac mono-runtime nautilus-sendto
7525 nautilus-sendto-empathy openoffice.org-writer2latex
7526 openssl-blacklist p7zip p7zip-full pkg-config python-
4suite-xml
7527 python-aptdaemon python-aptdaemon-gtk python-axiom
7528 python-beautifulsoup python-bugbuddy python-clientform
7529 python-coherence python-configobj python-crypto python-cupshelpers
7530 python-cupsutils python-eggtrayicon python-elementtree
7531 python-epsilon python-evolution python-feedparser python-gdata
7532 python-gdbm python-gst0.10 python-gtkglext1 python-gtkmozembed
7533 python-gtksourceview2 python-httplib2 python-louie python-mako
7534 python-markupsafe python-mechanize python-nevow python-notify
7535 python-opengl python-openssl python-pam python-pkg-resources
7536 python-pyasn1 python-pysqlite2 python-rdflib python-serial
7537 python-tagpy python-twisted-bin python-twisted-conch
7538 python-twisted-core python-twisted-web python-utidylib python-webkit
7539 python-xdg python-zope.interface remmina remmina-plugin-data
7540 remmina-plugin-rdp remmina-plugin-vnc rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder
7541 rhythmbox-plugins rpm-common rpm2cpio seahorse-plugins shotwell
7542 software-center svgalibg1 system-config-printer-udev
7543 telepathy-gabble telepathy-mission-control-
5 telepathy-salut tomboy
7544 totem totem-coherence totem-mozilla totem-plugins
7545 transmission-common xdg-user-dirs xdg-user-dirs-gtk xserver-xephyr
7547 </p
></blockquote
>
7549 Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
7551 <blockquote
><p
>
7552 arj bluez-utils cheese dhcdbd djvulibre-desktop ekiga eog
7553 epiphany-extensions epiphany-gecko evolution-exchange
7554 fast-user-switch-applet file-roller gcalctool gconf-editor gdm gedit
7555 gedit-common gnome-app-install gnome-games gnome-games-data
7556 gnome-nettool gnome-system-tools gnome-themes gnome-utils
7557 gnome-vfs-obexftp gnome-volume-manager gnuchess gucharmap
7558 guile-
1.8-libs hal libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-core5
7559 libavahi-ui0 libbind9-
50 libbluetooth2 libcamel1.2-
11 libcdio7
7560 libcucul0 libcurl3 libdirectfb-
1.0-
0 libdmx1 libdvdread3
7561 libedata-cal1.2-
6 libedataserver1.2-
9 libeel2-
2.20 libepc-
1.0-
1
7562 libepc-ui-
1.0-
1 libexchange-storage1.2-
3 libfaad0 libgadu3
7563 libgalago3 libgd2-noxpm libgda3-
3 libgda3-common libggz2 libggzcore9
7564 libggzmod4 libgksu1.2-
0 libgksuui1.0-
1 libgmyth0 libgnome-desktop-
2
7565 libgnome-pilot2 libgnomecups1.0-
1 libgnomeprint2.2-
0
7566 libgnomeprintui2.2-
0 libgpod3 libgraphviz4 libgtk-vnc-
1.0-
0
7567 libgtkhtml2-
0 libgtksourceview1.0-
0 libgtksourceview2.0-
0
7568 libgucharmap6 libhesiod0 libicu38 libisccc50 libisccfg50 libiw29
7569 libjaxp1.3-java-gcj libkpathsea4 liblircclient0 libltdl3 liblwres50
7570 libmagick++
10 libmagick10 libmalaga7 libmozjs1d libmpfr1ldbl libmtp7
7571 libmysqlclient15off libnautilus-burn4 libneon27 libnm-glib0
7572 libnm-util0 libopal-
2.2 libosp5 libparted1.8-
10 libpisock9
7573 libpisync1 libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler3 libpt-
1.10.10 libraw1394-
8
7574 libsdl1.2debian-alsa libsensors3 libsexy2 libsmbios2 libsoup2.2-
8
7575 libspeexdsp1 libssh2-
1 libsuitesparse-
3.1.0 libsvga1
7576 libswfdec-
0.6-
90 libtalloc1 libtotem-plparser10 libtrackerclient0
7577 libvoikko1 libxalan2-java-gcj libxerces2-java-gcj libxklavier12
7578 libxtrap6 libxxf86misc1 libzephyr3 mysql-common rhythmbox seahorse
7579 sound-juicer swfdec-gnome system-config-printer totem-common
7580 totem-gstreamer transmission-gtk vinagre vino w3c-dtd-xhtml wodim
7581 </p
></blockquote
>
7583 <p
>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p
>
7585 <blockquote
><p
>
7586 gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
7587 </p
></blockquote
>
7589 <p
>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p
>
7591 <blockquote
><p
>
7593 </p
></blockquote
>
7595 <p
>This is for KDE:
</p
>
7597 <p
>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p
>
7599 <blockquote
><p
>
7600 autopoint bomber bovo cantor cantor-backend-kalgebra cpp-
4.3 dcoprss
7601 edict espeak espeak-data eyesapplet fifteenapplet finger gettext
7602 ghostscript-x git gnome-audio gnugo granatier gs-common
7603 gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio indi kaddressbook-plugins kalgebra
7604 kalzium-data kanjidic kapman kate-plugins kblocks kbreakout kbstate
7605 kde-icons-mono kdeaccessibility kdeaddons-kfile-plugins
7606 kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-theme-window
7607 kdeedu kdeedu-data kdeedu-kvtml-data kdegames kdegames-card-data
7608 kdegames-mahjongg-data kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelirc
7609 kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdenetwork-kfile-plugins
7610 kdepim-kfile-plugins kdepim-kio-plugins kdessh kdetoys kdewebdev
7611 kdiamond kdnssd kfilereplace kfourinline kgeography-data kigo
7612 killbots kiriki klettres-data kmoon kmrml knewsticker-scripts
7613 kollision kpf krosspython ksirk ksmserver ksquares kstars-data
7614 ksudoku kubrick kweather libasound2-plugins libboost-python1.42
.0
7615 libcfitsio3 libconvert-binhex-perl libcrypt-ssleay-perl libdb4.6++
7616 libdjvulibre-text libdotconf1.0 liberror-perl libespeak1
7617 libfinance-quote-perl libgail-common libgsl0ldbl libhtml-parser-perl
7618 libhtml-tableextract-perl libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl
7619 libio-stringy-perl libkdeedu4 libkdegames5 libkiten4 libkpathsea5
7620 libkrossui4 libmailtools-perl libmime-tools-perl
7621 libnews-nntpclient-perl libopenbabel3 libportaudio2 libpulse-browse0
7622 libservlet2.4-java libspeechd2 libtiff-tools libtimedate-perl
7623 libunistring0 liburi-perl libwww-perl libxalan2-java libxerces2-java
7624 lirc luatex marble networkstatus noatun-plugins
7625 openoffice.org-writer2latex palapeli palapeli-data parley
7626 parley-data poster psutils pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat
7627 pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-utils quanta-data rocs rsync
7628 speech-dispatcher step svgalibg1 texlive-binaries texlive-luatex
7630 </p
></blockquote
>
7632 <p
>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
</p
>
7634 <blockquote
><p
>
7635 amor artsbuilder atlantik atlantikdesigner blinken bluez-utils cvs
7636 dhcdbd djvulibre-desktop imlib-base imlib11 kalzium kanagram kandy
7637 kasteroids katomic kbackgammon kbattleship kblackbox kbounce kbruch
7638 kcron kdat kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data kdeprint kdict kdvi kedit
7639 keduca kenolaba kfax kfaxview kfouleggs kgeography kghostview
7640 kgoldrunner khangman khexedit kiconedit kig kimagemapeditor
7641 kitchensync kiten kjumpingcube klatin klettres klickety klines
7642 klinkstatus kmag kmahjongg kmailcvt kmenuedit kmid kmilo kmines
7643 kmousetool kmouth kmplot knetwalk kodo kolf kommander konquest kooka
7644 kpager kpat kpdf kpercentage kpilot kpoker kpovmodeler krec
7645 kregexpeditor kreversi ksame ksayit kshisen ksig ksim ksirc ksirtet
7646 ksmiletris ksnake ksokoban kspaceduel kstars ksvg ksysv kteatime
7647 ktip ktnef ktouch ktron kttsd ktuberling kturtle ktux kuickshow
7648 kverbos kview kviewshell kvoctrain kwifimanager kwin kwin4 kwordquiz
7649 kworldclock kxsldbg libakode2 libarts1-akode libarts1-audiofile
7650 libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libavahi-compat-libdnssd1
7651 libavahi-core5 libavc1394-
0 libbind9-
50 libbluetooth2
7652 libboost-python1.34
.1 libcucul0 libcurl3 libcvsservice0
7653 libdirectfb-
1.0-
0 libdjvulibre21 libdvdread3 libfaad0 libfreebob0
7654 libgd2-noxpm libgraphviz4 libgsmme1c2a libgtkhtml2-
0 libicu38
7655 libiec61883-
0 libindex0 libisccc50 libisccfg50 libiw29
7656 libjaxp1.3-java-gcj libk3b3 libkcal2b libkcddb1 libkdeedu3
7657 libkdegames1 libkdepim1a libkgantt0 libkleopatra1 libkmime2
7658 libkpathsea4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libkscan1
7659 libksieve0 libktnef1 liblockdev1 libltdl3 liblwres50 libmagick10
7660 libmimelib1c2a libmodplug0c2 libmozjs1d libmpcdec3 libmpfr1ldbl
7661 libneon27 libnm-util0 libopensync0 libpisock9 libpoppler-glib3
7662 libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler3 libraw1394-
8 librss1 libsensors3
7663 libsmbios2 libssh2-
1 libsuitesparse-
3.1.0 libswfdec-
0.6-
90
7664 libtalloc1 libxalan2-java-gcj libxerces2-java-gcj libxtrap6 lskat
7665 mpeglib network-manager-kde noatun pmount tex-common texlive-base
7666 texlive-common texlive-doc-base texlive-fonts-recommended tidy
7667 ttf-dustin ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-sjfonts
7668 </p
></blockquote
>
7670 <p
>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p
>
7672 <blockquote
><p
>
7673 dolphin kde-core kde-plasma-desktop kde-standard kde-window-manager
7674 kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-apps kdebase-workspace
7675 kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-data kdeutils kscreensaver
7676 kscreensaver-xsavers libgle3 libkonq5 libkonq5-templates libnetpbm10
7677 netpbm plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-networkmanagement
7678 xscreensaver-data-extra xscreensaver-gl xscreensaver-gl-extra
7679 xscreensaver-screensaver-bsod
7680 </p
></blockquote
>
7682 <p
>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p
>
7684 <blockquote
><p
>
7685 kdebase-bin konq-plugins konqueror
7686 </p
></blockquote
>
7691 <title>Gnash buildbot slave and Debian kfreebsd
</title>
7692 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gnash_buildbot_slave_and_Debian_kfreebsd.html
</link>
7693 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gnash_buildbot_slave_and_Debian_kfreebsd.html
</guid>
7694 <pubDate>Sat,
20 Nov
2010 07:
20:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
7695 <description><p
>Answering
7696 <a href=
"http://www.listware.net/
201011/gnash-dev/
67431-gnash-dev-buildbot-looking-for-slaves.html
">the
7697 call from the Gnash project
</a
> for
7698 <a href=
"http://www.gnashdev.org:
8010">buildbot
</a
> slaves to test the
7699 current source, I have set up a virtual KVM machine on the Debian
7700 Edu/Skolelinux virtualization host to test the git source on
7701 Debian/Squeeze. I hope this can help the developers in getting new
7702 releases out more often.
</p
>
7704 <p
>As the developers want less main-stream build platforms tested to,
7705 I have considered setting up a
<a
7706 href=
"http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/
">Debian/kfreebsd
</a
>
7707 machine as well. I have also considered using the kfreebsd
7708 architecture in Debian as a file server in NUUG to get access to the
5
7709 TB zfs volume we currently use to store DV video. Because of this, I
7710 finally got around to do a test installation of Debian/Squeeze with
7711 kfreebsd. Installation went fairly smooth, thought I noticed some
7712 visual glitches in the cdebconf dialogs (black cursor left on the
7713 screen at random locations). Have not gotten very far with the
7714 testing. Noticed cfdisk did not work, but fdisk did so it was not a
7715 fatal problem. Have to spend some more time on it to see if it is
7716 useful as a file server for NUUG. Will try to find time to set up a
7717 gnash buildbot slave on the Debian Edu/Skolelinux this weekend.
</p
>
7722 <title>Making room on the Debian Edu/Sqeeze DVD
</title>
7723 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Making_room_on_the_Debian_Edu_Sqeeze_DVD.html
</link>
7724 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Making_room_on_the_Debian_Edu_Sqeeze_DVD.html
</guid>
7725 <pubDate>Sun,
7 Nov
2010 11:
45:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
7726 <description><p
>Prioritising packages for the Debian Edu /
7727 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
> DVD, which is
7728 supposed provide a school with all the services and user applications
7729 needed on the pupils computer network has always been hard. Even
7730 schools without Internet connections should be able to get Debian Edu
7731 working using this DVD.
</p
>
7733 <p
>The job became a lot harder when apt and aptitude started
7734 installing recommended packages by default. We want the same set of
7735 packages to be installed when using the DVD and the netinst CD, and
7736 that means all recommended packages need to be on the DVD. I created
7737 a patch for debian-cd in
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
601203">BTS
7738 report #
601203</a
> to do this, and since this change was applied to
7739 the Debian Edu DVD build, we have been seriously short on space.
</p
>
7741 <p
>A few days ago we decided to drop blender, wxmaxima and kicad from
7742 the default installation to save space on the DVD, believing that
7743 those needing these applications are few and can get them from the
7744 Debian archive.
</p
>
7746 <p
>Yesterday, I had a look what source packages to see which packages
7747 were using most space. A few large packages are well know;
7748 openoffice.org, openclipart and fluid-soundfont. But I also
7749 discovered that lilypond used
106 MiB and fglrx-driver used
53 MiB.
7750 The lilypond package is pulled in as a dependency for rosegarden, and
7751 when looking a bit closer I discovered that
99 MiB of the
106 MiB were
7752 the documentation package, which is recommended by the binary package.
7753 I decided to drop this documentation package from our DVD, as most of
7754 our users will use the GUI front-ends and do not need the lilypond
7755 documentation. Similarly, I dropped the non-free fglrx-driver package
7756 which might be installed by d-i when its hardware is detected, as the
7757 free X driver should work.
</p
>
7759 <p
>With this change, we finally got space for the LXDE and Gnome
7760 desktop packages as well as the language specific packages making the
7761 DVD more useful again.
</p
>
7766 <title>Software updates
2010-
10-
24</title>
7767 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Software_updates_2010_10_24.html
</link>
7768 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Software_updates_2010_10_24.html
</guid>
7769 <pubDate>Sun,
24 Oct
2010 22:
45:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
7770 <description><p
>Some updates.
</p
>
7772 <p
>My
<a href=
"http://pledgebank.com/gnash-avm2
">gnash pledge
</a
> to
7773 raise money for the project is going well. The lower limit of
10
7774 signers was reached in
24 hours, and so far
13 people have signed it.
7775 More signers and more funding is most welcome, and I am really curious
7776 how far we can get before the time limit of December
24 is reached.
7779 <p
>On the #gnash IRC channel on irc.freenode.net, I was just tipped
7780 about what appear to be a great code coverage tool capable of
7781 generating code coverage stats without any changes to the source code.
7783 <a href=
"http://simonkagstrom.github.com/kcov/index.html
">kcov
</a
>,
7784 and can be used using
<tt
>kcov
&lt;directory
&gt;
&lt;binary
&gt;
</tt
>.
7785 It is missing in Debian, but the git source built just fine in Squeeze
7786 after I installed libelf-dev, libdwarf-dev, pkg-config and
7787 libglib2.0-dev. Failed to build in Lenny, but suspect that is
7788 solvable. I hope kcov make it into Debian soon.
</p
>
7790 <p
>Finally found time to wrap up the release notes for
<a
7791 href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/
2010/
10/msg00002.html
">a
7792 new alpha release of Debian Edu
</a
>, and just published the second
7793 alpha test release of the Squeeze based Debian Edu /
7794 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>
7795 release. Give it a try if you need a complete linux solution for your
7796 school, including central infrastructure server, workstations, thin
7797 client servers and diskless workstations. A nice touch added
7798 yesterday is RDP support on the thin client servers, for windows
7799 clients to get a Linux desktop on request.
</p
>
7804 <title>Some notes on Flash in Debian and Debian Edu
</title>
7805 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Some_notes_on_Flash_in_Debian_and_Debian_Edu.html
</link>
7806 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Some_notes_on_Flash_in_Debian_and_Debian_Edu.html
</guid>
7807 <pubDate>Sat,
4 Sep
2010 10:
10:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
7808 <description><p
>In the
<a href=
"http://popcon.debian.org/unknown/by_vote
">Debian
7809 popularity-contest numbers
</a
>, the adobe-flashplugin package the
7810 second most popular used package that is missing in Debian. The sixth
7811 most popular is flashplayer-mozilla. This is a clear indication that
7812 working flash is important for Debian users. Around
10 percent of the
7813 users submitting data to popcon.debian.org have this package
7814 installed.
</p
>
7816 <p
>In the report written by Lars Risan in August
2008
7817 («
<a href=
"http://wiki.skolelinux.no/Dokumentasjon/Rapporter?action=AttachFile
&do=view
&target=Skolelinux_i_bruk_rapport_1.0.pdf
">Skolelinux
7818 i bruk – Rapport for Hurum kommune, Universitetet i Agder og
7819 stiftelsen SLX Debian Labs
</a
>»), one of the most important problems
7820 schools experienced with
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian
7821 Edu/Skolelinux
</a
> was the lack of working Flash. A lot of educational
7822 web sites require Flash to work, and lacking working Flash support in
7823 the web browser and the problems with installing it was perceived as a
7824 good reason to stay with Windows.
</p
>
7826 <p
>I once saw a funny and sad comment in a web forum, where Linux was
7827 said to be the retarded cousin that did not really understand
7828 everything you told him but could work fairly well. This was a
7829 comment regarding the problems Linux have with proprietary formats and
7830 non-standard web pages, and is sad because it exposes a fairly common
7831 understanding of whose fault it is if web pages that only work in for
7832 example Internet Explorer
6 fail to work on Firefox, and funny because
7833 it explain very well how annoying it is for users when Linux
7834 distributions do not work with the documents they receive or the web
7835 pages they want to visit.
</p
>
7837 <p
>This is part of the reason why I believe it is important for Debian
7838 and Debian Edu to have a well working Flash implementation in the
7839 distribution, to get at least popular sites as Youtube and Google
7840 Video to working out of the box. For Squeeze, Debian have the chance
7841 to include the latest version of Gnash that will make this happen, as
7842 the new release
0.8.8 was published a few weeks ago and is resting in
7843 unstable. The new version work with more sites that version
0.8.7.
7844 The Gnash maintainers have asked for a freeze exception, but the
7845 release team have not had time to reply to it yet. I hope they agree
7846 with me that Flash is important for the Debian desktop users, and thus
7847 accept the new package into Squeeze.
</p
>
7852 <title>Broken hard link handling with sshfs
</title>
7853 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Broken_hard_link_handling_with_sshfs.html
</link>
7854 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Broken_hard_link_handling_with_sshfs.html
</guid>
7855 <pubDate>Mon,
30 Aug
2010 19:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
7856 <description><p
>Just got an email from Tobias Gruetzmacher as a followup on my
7857 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Broken_umask_handling_with_sshfs.html
">previous
7858 post about sshfs
</a
>. He reported another problem with sshfs. It
7859 fail to handle hard links properly. A simple way to spot this is to
7860 look at the . and .. entries in the directory tree. These should have
7861 a link count
>1, but on sshfs the count is
1. I just tested to see
7862 what happen when trying to hardlink, and this fail as well:
</p
>
7866 ln: creating hard link `bar
' =
> `foo
': Function not implemented
7870 <p
>I have not yet found time to implement a test for this in my file
7871 system test code, but believe having working hard links is useful to
7872 avoid surprised unix programs. Not as useful as working file locking
7873 and symlinks, which are required to get a working desktop, but useful
7874 nevertheless. :)
</p
>
7876 <p
>The latest version of the file system test code is available via
7878 <a href=
"http://github.com/gebi/fs-test
">http://github.com/gebi/fs-test
</a
></p
>
7883 <title>Skolelinux i Osloskolen
</title>
7884 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_i_Osloskolen.html
</link>
7885 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_i_Osloskolen.html
</guid>
7886 <pubDate>Thu,
26 Aug
2010 22:
25:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
7887 <description><p
>Denne høsten skal endelig alle Osloskolene få mulighet til å bruke
7888 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
>. Ny IT-løsning
7889 har vært rullet ut i noen måneder nå, og så vidt jeg fikk vite før
7890 sommeren skulle alle skoler ha nytt opplegg på plass før oppstart nå i
7891 høst. På alle skolene skal en kunne velge ved installasjon om en skal
7892 ha Windows eller Skolelinux på maskinene, og en kan i tillegg
7893 PXE-boote maskinene over nett som tynne klienter eller diskløse
7894 arbeidsstasjoner. Jeg er spent på hvor mange skoler som velger å ta i
7895 bruk Skolelinux, og gleder meg til å se hvordan dette utvikler seg.
7896 Løsningen leveres av
7897 <a href=
"http://www.logica.no/
">Logica
</a
> med
7898 <a href=
"http://www.slxdrift.no/
">Skolelinux Drift AS
</a
> som
7899 underleverandør, og jeg har vært involvert i utviklingen av løsningen
7900 via Skolelinux Drift AS siden prosjektet starter. Jeg synes det er
7901 fantastisk at Skolelinux er kommet så langt siden vi startet i
2001 at
7902 alle elevene i Osloskolene nå skal få mulighet til å bruke
7903 løsningen. Jeg håper de vil sette pris på alle de
7904 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.no/linux-signpost/
">fantastiske
7905 brukerprogrammene
</a
> som er tilgjengelig i Skolelinux.
</p
>
7910 <title>Broken umask handling with sshfs
</title>
7911 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Broken_umask_handling_with_sshfs.html
</link>
7912 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Broken_umask_handling_with_sshfs.html
</guid>
7913 <pubDate>Thu,
26 Aug
2010 13:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
7914 <description><p
>My file system sematics program
7915 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Testing_if_a_file_system_can_be_used_for_home_directories___.html
">presented
7916 a few days ago
</a
> is very useful to verify that a file system can
7917 work as a unix home directory,and today I had to extend it a bit. I
'm
7918 looking into alternatives for home directory access here at the
7919 University of Oslo, and one of the options is sshfs. My friend
7920 Finn-Arne mentioned a while back that they had used sshfs with Debian
7921 Edu, but stopped because of problems. I asked today what the problems
7922 where, and he mentioned that sshfs failed to handle umask properly.
7923 Trying to detect the problem I wrote this addition to my fs testing
7927 mode_t touch_get_mode(const char *name, mode_t mode) {
7929 int fd = open(name, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_LARGEFILE, mode);
7932 struct stat statbuf;
7933 if (-
1 != fstat(fd,
&statbuf)) {
7934 retval = statbuf.st_mode
& 0x1ff;
7941 /* Try to detect problem discovered using sshfs */
7942 int test_umask(void) {
7943 printf(
"info: testing umask effect on file creation\n
");
7945 mode_t orig_umask = umask(
000);
7947 if (
0666 != (newmode = touch_get_mode(
"foobar
",
0666))) {
7948 printf(
" error: Wrong file mode %o when creating using mode
666 and umask
000\n
",
7952 if (
0660 != (newmode = touch_get_mode(
"foobar
",
0666))) {
7953 printf(
" error: Wrong file mode %o when creating using mode
666 and umask
007\n
",
7961 int main(int argc, char **argv) {
7968 <p
>Sure enough. On NFS to a netapp, I get this result:
</p
>
7971 Testing POSIX/Unix sematics on file system
7972 info: testing symlink creation
7973 info: testing subdirectory creation
7974 info: testing fcntl locking
7975 Read-locking
1 byte from
1073741824
7976 Read-locking
510 byte from
1073741826
7977 Unlocking
1 byte from
1073741824
7978 Write-locking
1 byte from
1073741824
7979 Write-locking
510 byte from
1073741826
7980 Unlocking
2 byte from
1073741824
7981 info: testing umask effect on file creation
7984 <p
>When mounting the same directory using sshfs, I get this
7988 Testing POSIX/Unix sematics on file system
7989 info: testing symlink creation
7990 info: testing subdirectory creation
7991 info: testing fcntl locking
7992 Read-locking
1 byte from
1073741824
7993 Read-locking
510 byte from
1073741826
7994 Unlocking
1 byte from
1073741824
7995 Write-locking
1 byte from
1073741824
7996 Write-locking
510 byte from
1073741826
7997 Unlocking
2 byte from
1073741824
7998 info: testing umask effect on file creation
7999 error: Wrong file mode
644 when creating using mode
666 and umask
000
8000 error: Wrong file mode
640 when creating using mode
666 and umask
007
8003 <p
>So, I can conclude that sshfs is better than smb to a Netapp or a
8004 Windows server, but not good enough to be used as a home
8005 directory.
</p
>
8007 <p
>Update
2010-
08-
26: Reported the issue in
8008 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
594498">BTS report #
594498</a
></p
>
8010 <p
>Update
2010-
08-
27: Michael Gebetsroither report that he found the
8011 script so useful that he created a GIT repository and stored it in
8012 <a href=
"http://github.com/gebi/fs-test
">http://github.com/gebi/fs-test
</a
>.
</p
>
8017 <title>No hardcoded config on Debian Edu clients
</title>
8018 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/No_hardcoded_config_on_Debian_Edu_clients.html
</link>
8019 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/No_hardcoded_config_on_Debian_Edu_clients.html
</guid>
8020 <pubDate>Mon,
9 Aug
2010 20:
15:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
8021 <description><p
>As reported earlier, the last few days I have looked at how Debian
8022 Edu clients are configured, and tried to get rid of all hardcoded
8023 configuration settings on the clients. I believe the work to be
8024 mostly done, and the clients seem to work just fine with dynamically
8025 generated configuration.
</p
>
8027 <p
>What is the point, you might ask? The point is to allow a Debian
8028 Edu desktop to integrate into an existing network infrastructure
8029 without any manual configuration.
</p
>
8031 <p
>This is what happens when installing a Debian Edu client here at
8032 the University of Oslo using PXE. With the PXE installation, I am
8033 asked for language (Norwegian Bokmål), locality (Norway) and keyboard
8034 layout (no-latin1), Debian Edu profile (Roaming Workstation), if I
8035 accept to reformat the hard drive (yes), if I want to submit info to
8036 popcon.debian.org (no) and root password (secret). After answering
8037 these questions, the installer goes ahead and does its thing, and
8038 after around
50 minutes it is done. I press enter to finish the
8039 installation, and the machine reboots into KDE. When the machine is
8040 ready and kdm asks for login information, I enter my university
8041 username and password, am told by kdm that a local home directory has
8042 been created and that I must log in again, and finally log in with the
8043 same username and password to the KDE
4.4 desktop. At no point during
8044 this process did it ask for university specific settings, and all the
8045 required configuration was dynamically detected using information
8046 fetched via DHCP and DNS. The roaming workstation is now ready for
8049 <p
>How was this done, you might wonder? First of all, here is the
8050 list of things that need to be configured on the client to get it
8051 working properly out of the box:
</p
>
8054 <li
>IP address/netmask and DNS server.
</li
>
8055 <li
>Web proxy URL.
</li
>
8056 <li
>LDAP server for NSS directory information (user, group, etc).
</li
>
8057 <li
>Kerberos server for PAM password checking.
</li
>
8058 <li
>SMB mount point to access the network home directory. (*)
</li
>
8059 <li
>Central syslog server to send syslog messages to. (*)
</li
>
8060 <li
>Sitesummary collector URL to submit info to central server. (*)
</li
>
8063 <p
>(Hm, did I forget anything? Let me knew if I did.)
</p
>
8065 <p
>The points marked (*) are not required to be able to use the
8066 machine, but needed to provide central storage and allowing system
8067 administrators to track their machines. Since yesterday, everything
8068 but the sitesummary collector URL is dynamically discovered at boot
8069 and installation time in the svn version of Debian Edu.
</p
>
8071 <p
>The IP and DNS setup is fetched during boot using DHCP as usual.
8072 When a DHCP update arrives, the proxy setup is updated by looking for
8073 http://wpat/wpad.dat and using the content of this WPAD file to
8074 configure the http and ftp proxy in /etc/environment and
8075 /etc/apt/apt.conf. I decided to update the proxy setup using a DHCP
8076 hook to ensure that the client stops using the Debian Edu proxy when
8077 it is moved outside the Debian Edu network, and instead uses any local
8078 proxy present on the new network when it moves around.
</p
>
8080 <p
>The DNS names of the LDAP, Kerberos and syslog server and related
8081 configuration are generated using DNS information at boot. First the
8082 installer looks for a host named ldap in the current DNS domain. If
8083 not found, it looks for _ldap._tcp SRV records in DNS instead. If an
8084 LDAP server is found, its root DSE entry is requested and the
8085 attributes namingContexts and defaultNamingContext are used to
8086 determine which LDAP base to use for NSS. If there are several
8087 namingContexts attibutes and the defaultNamingContext is present, that
8088 LDAP subtree is used as the base. If defaultNamingContext is missing,
8089 the subtrees listed as namingContexts are searched in sequence for any
8090 object with class posixAccount or posixGroup, and the first one with
8091 such an object is used as the LDAP base. For Kerberos, a similar
8092 search is done by first looking for a host named kerberos, and then
8093 for the _kerberos._tcp SRV record. I
've been unable to find a way to
8094 look up the Kerberos realm, so for this the upper case string of the
8095 current DNS domain is used.
</p
>
8097 <p
>For the syslog server, the hosts syslog and loghost are searched
8098 for, and the _syslog._udp SRV record is consulted if no such host is
8099 found. This algorithm works for both Debian Edu and the University of
8100 Oslo. A similar strategy would work for locating the sitesummary
8101 server, but have not been implemented yet. I decided to fetch and
8102 save these settings during installation, to make sure moving to a
8103 different network does not change the set of users being allowed to
8104 log in nor the passwords required to log in. Usernames and passwords
8105 will be cached by sssd when the user logs in on the Debian Edu
8106 network, and will not change as the laptop move around. For a
8107 non-roaming machine, there is no caching, but given that it is
8108 supposed to stay in place it should not matter much. Perhaps we
8109 should switch those to use sssd too?
</p
>
8111 <p
>The user
's SMB mount point for the network home directory is
8112 located when the user logs in for the first time. The LDAP server is
8113 consulted to look for the user
's LDAP object and the sambaHomePath
8114 attribute is used if found. If it isn
't found, the home directory
8115 path fetched from NSS is used instead. Assuming the path is of the
8116 form /site/server/directory/username, the second part is looked up in
8117 DNS and used to generate a SMB URL of the form
8118 smb://server.domain/username. This algorithm works for both Debian
8119 edu and the University of Oslo. Perhaps there are better attributes
8120 to use or a better algorithm that works for more sites, but this will
8121 do for now. :)
</p
>
8123 <p
>This work should make it easier to integrate the Debian Edu clients
8124 into any LDAP/Kerberos infrastructure, and make the current setup even
8125 more flexible than before. I suspect it will also work for thin
8126 client servers, allowing one to easily set up LTSP and hook it into a
8127 existing network infrastructure, but I have not had time to test this
8130 <p
>If you want to help out with implementing these things for Debian
8131 Edu, please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p
>
8133 <p
>Update
2010-
08-
09: Simon Farnsworth gave me a heads-up on how to
8134 detect Kerberos realm from DNS, by looking for _kerberos TXT entries
8135 before falling back to the upper case DNS domain name. Will have to
8136 implement it for Debian Edu. :)
</p
>
8141 <title>Testing if a file system can be used for home directories...
</title>
8142 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Testing_if_a_file_system_can_be_used_for_home_directories___.html
</link>
8143 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Testing_if_a_file_system_can_be_used_for_home_directories___.html
</guid>
8144 <pubDate>Sun,
8 Aug
2010 21:
20:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
8145 <description><p
>A few years ago, I was involved in a project planning to use
8146 Windows file servers as home directory servers for Debian
8147 Edu/Skolelinux machines. This was thought to be no problem, as the
8148 access would be through the SMB network file system protocol, and we
8149 knew other sites used SMB with unix and samba as the file server to
8150 mount home directories without any problems. But, after months of
8151 struggling, we had to conclude that our goal was impossible.
</p
>
8153 <p
>The reason is simply that while SMB can be used for home
8154 directories when the file server is Samba running on Unix, this only
8155 work because of Samba have some extensions and the fact that the
8156 underlying file system is a unix file system. When using a Windows
8157 file server, the underlying file system do not have POSIX semantics,
8158 and several programs will fail if the users home directory where they
8159 want to store their configuration lack POSIX semantics.
</p
>
8161 <p
>As part of this work, I wrote a small C program I want to share
8162 with you all, to replicate a few of the problematic applications (like
8163 OpenOffice.org and GCompris) and see if the file system was working as
8164 it should. If you find yourself in spooky file system land, it might
8165 help you find your way out again. This is the fs-test.c source:
</p
>
8169 * Some tests to check the file system sematics. Used to verify that
8170 * CIFS from a windows server do not work properly as a linux home
8172 * License: GPL v2 or later
8174 * needs libsqlite3-dev and build-essential installed
8175 * compile with: gcc -Wall -lsqlite3 -DTEST_SQLITE fs-test.c -o fs-test
8178 #define _FILE_OFFSET_BITS
64
8179 #define _LARGEFILE_SOURCE
1
8180 #define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE
1
8182 #define _GNU_SOURCE /* for asprintf() */
8184 #include
&lt;errno.h
>
8185 #include
&lt;fcntl.h
>
8186 #include
&lt;stdio.h
>
8187 #include
&lt;string.h
>
8188 #include
&lt;stdlib.h
>
8189 #include
&lt;sys/file.h
>
8190 #include
&lt;sys/stat.h
>
8191 #include
&lt;sys/types.h
>
8192 #include
&lt;unistd.h
>
8196 * Test sqlite open, as done by gcompris require the libsqlite3-dev
8197 * package and linking with -lsqlite3. A more low level test is
8199 * See also
&lt;URL: http://www.sqlite.org./faq.html#q5
>.
8201 #include
&lt;sqlite3.h
>
8202 #define CREATE_TABLE_USERS \
8203 "CREATE TABLE users (user_id INT UNIQUE, login TEXT, lastname TEXT, firstname TEXT, birthdate TEXT, class_id INT );
"
8204 int test_sqlite_open(void) {
8206 char *name =
"testsqlite.db
";
8209 int rc = sqlite3_open(name,
&db);
8211 printf(
"error: sqlite open of %s failed: %s\n
", name, sqlite3_errmsg(db));
8217 rc = sqlite3_exec(db,CREATE_TABLE_USERS, NULL,
0,
&zErrMsg);
8218 if( rc != SQLITE_OK ){
8219 printf(
"error: sqlite table create failed: %s\n
", zErrMsg);
8223 printf(
"info: sqlite worked\n
");
8227 #endif /* TEST_SQLITE */
8230 * Demonstrate locking issue found in gcompris using sqlite3. This
8231 * work with ext3, but not with cifs server on Windows
2003. This is
8232 * done in the sqlite3 library.
8234 *
&lt;URL:http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/
2001-
08/msg00854.html
> and the
8235 * POSIX specification
8236 *
&lt;URL:http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/
009695399/functions/fcntl.html
>.
8238 int test_gcompris_locking(void) {
8240 char *name =
"testsqlite.db
";
8242 int fd = open(name, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_LARGEFILE,
0644);
8243 printf(
"info: testing fcntl locking\n
");
8245 fl.l_whence = SEEK_SET;
8246 fl.l_pid = getpid();
8247 printf(
" Read-locking
1 byte from
1073741824");
8248 fl.l_start =
1073741824;
8250 fl.l_type = F_RDLCK;
8251 if (
0 != fcntl(fd, F_SETLK,
&fl) ) printf(
" - error!\n
"); else printf(
"\n
");
8253 printf(
" Read-locking
510 byte from
1073741826");
8254 fl.l_start =
1073741826;
8256 fl.l_type = F_RDLCK;
8257 if (
0 != fcntl(fd, F_SETLK,
&fl) ) printf(
" - error!\n
"); else printf(
"\n
");
8259 printf(
" Unlocking
1 byte from
1073741824");
8260 fl.l_start =
1073741824;
8262 fl.l_type = F_UNLCK;
8263 if (
0 != fcntl(fd, F_SETLK,
&fl) ) printf(
" - error!\n
"); else printf(
"\n
");
8265 printf(
" Write-locking
1 byte from
1073741824");
8266 fl.l_start =
1073741824;
8268 fl.l_type = F_WRLCK;
8269 if (
0 != fcntl(fd, F_SETLK,
&fl) ) printf(
" - error!\n
"); else printf(
"\n
");
8271 printf(
" Write-locking
510 byte from
1073741826");
8272 fl.l_start =
1073741826;
8274 if (
0 != fcntl(fd, F_SETLK,
&fl) ) printf(
" - error!\n
"); else printf(
"\n
");
8276 printf(
" Unlocking
2 byte from
1073741824");
8277 fl.l_start =
1073741824;
8279 fl.l_type = F_UNLCK;
8280 if (
0 != fcntl(fd, F_SETLK,
&fl) ) printf(
" - error!\n
"); else printf(
"\n
");
8287 * Test if permissions of freshly created directories allow entries
8288 * below them. This was a problem with OpenOffice.org and gcompris.
8289 * Mounting with option
'sync
' seem to solve this problem while
8290 * slowing down file operations.
8292 int test_subdirectory_creation(void) {
8294 char *path = strdup(
"test
");
8297 printf(
"info: testing subdirectory creation\n
");
8298 for (level =
0; level
&lt; LEVELS; level++) {
8299 char *newpath = NULL;
8300 if (-
1 == mkdir(path,
0777)) {
8301 printf(
" error: Unable to create directory
'%s
': %s\n
",
8302 path, strerror(errno));
8305 asprintf(
&newpath,
"%s/%s
", path,
"test
");
8313 * Test if symlinks can be created. This was a problem detected with
8316 int test_symlinks(void) {
8317 printf(
"info: testing symlink creation\n
");
8318 unlink(
"symlink
");
8319 if (-
1 == symlink(
"file
",
"symlink
"))
8320 printf(
" error: Unable to create symlink\n
");
8324 int main(int argc, char **argv) {
8325 printf(
"Testing POSIX/Unix sematics on file system\n
");
8327 test_subdirectory_creation();
8330 #endif /* TEST_SQLITE */
8331 test_gcompris_locking();
8336 <p
>When everything is working, it should print something like
8340 Testing POSIX/Unix sematics on file system
8341 info: testing symlink creation
8342 info: testing subdirectory creation
8344 info: testing fcntl locking
8345 Read-locking
1 byte from
1073741824
8346 Read-locking
510 byte from
1073741826
8347 Unlocking
1 byte from
1073741824
8348 Write-locking
1 byte from
1073741824
8349 Write-locking
510 byte from
1073741826
8350 Unlocking
2 byte from
1073741824
8353 <p
>I do not remember the exact details of the problems we saw, but one
8354 of them was with locking, where if I remember correctly, POSIX allow a
8355 read-only lock to be upgraded to a read-write lock without unlocking
8356 the read-only lock (while Windows do not). Another was a bug in the
8357 CIFS/SMB client implementation in the Linux kernel where directory
8358 meta information would be wrong for a fraction of a second, making
8359 OpenOffice.org fail to create its deep directory tree because it was
8360 not allowed to create files in its freshly created directory.
</p
>
8362 <p
>Anyway, here is a nice tool for your tool box, might you never need
8365 <p
>Update
2010-
08-
27: Michael Gebetsroither report that he found the
8366 script so useful that he created a GIT repository and stored it in
8367 <a href=
"http://github.com/gebi/fs-test
">http://github.com/gebi/fs-test
</a
>.
</p
>
8372 <title>Autodetecting Client setup for roaming workstations in Debian Edu
</title>
8373 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Autodetecting_Client_setup_for_roaming_workstations_in_Debian_Edu.html
</link>
8374 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Autodetecting_Client_setup_for_roaming_workstations_in_Debian_Edu.html
</guid>
8375 <pubDate>Sat,
7 Aug
2010 14:
45:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
8376 <description><p
>A few days ago, I
8377 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_roaming_workstation___at_the_university_of_Oslo.html
">tried
8378 to install
</a
> a Roaming workation profile from Debian Edu/Squeeze
8379 while on the university network here at the University of Oslo, and
8380 noticed how much had to change to get it operational using the
8381 university infrastructure. It was fairly easy, but it occured to me
8382 that Debian Edu would improve a lot if I could get the client to
8383 connect without any changes at all, and thus let the client configure
8384 itself during installation and first boot to use the infrastructure
8385 around it. Now I am a huge step further along that road.
</p
>
8387 <p
>With our current squeeze-test packages, I can select the roaming
8388 workstation profile and get a working laptop connecting to the
8389 university LDAP server for user and group and our active directory
8390 servers for Kerberos authentication. All this without any
8391 configuration at all during installation. My users home directory got
8392 a bookmark in the KDE menu to mount it via SMB, with the correct URL.
8393 In short, openldap and sssd is correctly configured. In addition to
8394 this, the client look for http://wpad/wpad.dat to configure a web
8395 proxy, and when it fail to find it no proxy settings are stored in
8396 /etc/environment and /etc/apt/apt.conf. Iceweasel and KDE is
8397 configured to look for the same wpad configuration and also do not use
8398 a proxy when at the university network. If the machine is moved to a
8399 network with such wpad setup, it would automatically use it when DHCP
8400 gave it a IP address.
</p
>
8402 <p
>The LDAP server is located using DNS, by first looking for the DNS
8403 entry ldap.$domain. If this do not exist, it look for the
8404 _ldap._tcp.$domain SRV records and use the first one as the LDAP
8405 server. Next, it connects to the LDAP server and search all
8406 namingContexts entries for posixAccount or posixGroup objects, and
8407 pick the first one as the LDAP base. For Kerberos, a similar
8408 algorithm is used to locate the LDAP server, and the realm is the
8409 uppercase version of $domain.
</p
>
8411 <p
>So, what is not working, you might ask. SMB mounting my home
8412 directory do not work. No idea why, but suspected the incorrect
8413 Kerberos settings in /etc/krb5.conf and /etc/samba/smb.conf might be
8414 the cause. These are not properly configured during installation, and
8415 had to be hand-edited to get the correct Kerberos realm and server,
8416 but SMB mounting still do not work. :(
</p
>
8418 <p
>With this automatic configuration in place, I expect a Debian Edu
8419 roaming profile installation would be able to automatically detect and
8420 connect to any site using LDAP and Kerberos for NSS directory and PAM
8421 authentication. It should also work out of the box in a Active
8422 Directory environment providing posixAccount and posixGroup objects
8423 with UID and GID values.
</p
>
8425 <p
>If you want to help out with implementing these things for Debian
8426 Edu, please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p
>
8431 <title>Debian Edu roaming workstation - at the university of Oslo
</title>
8432 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_roaming_workstation___at_the_university_of_Oslo.html
</link>
8433 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_roaming_workstation___at_the_university_of_Oslo.html
</guid>
8434 <pubDate>Tue,
3 Aug
2010 23:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
8435 <description><p
>The new roaming workstation profile in Debian Edu/Squeeze is fairly
8436 similar to the laptop setup am I working on using Ubuntu for the
8437 University of Oslo, and just for the heck of it, I tested today how
8438 hard it would be to integrate that profile into the university
8439 infrastructure. In this case, it is the university LDAP server,
8440 Active Directory Kerberos server and SMB mounting from the Netapp file
8443 <p
>I was pleasantly surprised that the only three files needed to be
8444 changed (/etc/sssd/sssd.conf, /etc/ldap.conf and
8445 /etc/mklocaluser.d/
20-debian-edu-config) and one file had to be added
8446 (/usr/share/perl5/Debian/Edu_Local.pm), to get the client working.
8447 Most of the changes were to get the client to use the university LDAP
8448 for NSS and Kerberos server for PAM, but one was to change a hard
8449 coded DNS domain name in the mklocaluser hook from .intern to
8452 <p
>This testing was so encouraging, that I went ahead and adjusted the
8453 Debian Edu scripts and setup in subversion to centralise the roaming
8454 workstation setup a bit more and avoid the hardcoded DNS domain name,
8455 so that when I test this tomorrow, I expect to get away with modifying
8456 only /etc/sssd/sssd.conf and /etc/ldap.conf to get it to use the
8457 university servers.
</p
>
8459 <p
>My goal is to get the clients to have no hardcoded settings and
8460 fetch all their initial setup during installation and first boot, to
8461 allow them to be inserted also into environments where the default
8462 setup in Debian Edu has been changed or as with the university, where
8463 the environment is different but provides the protocols Debian Edu
8469 <title>First Debian Edu test release (alpha0) based on Squeeze is released
</title>
8470 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_Debian_Edu_test_release__alpha0__based_on_Squeeze_is_released.html
</link>
8471 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_Debian_Edu_test_release__alpha0__based_on_Squeeze_is_released.html
</guid>
8472 <pubDate>Tue,
27 Jul
2010 17:
45:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
8473 <description><p
>I just posted this announcement culminating several months of work
8474 with the next Debian Edu release. Not nearly done, but one major step
8475 completed.
</p
>
8478 <p
>This is the first test release based on Squeeze. The focus of this
8479 release is to test the user application selection. To have a look,
8480 install the standalone profile and let the developers know if the set
8481 of installed packages i.e. applications should be modified. If some
8482 user application is missing, or if there are some applications that no
8483 longer make sense to be included in Debian Edu, please let us know.
8484 Also, if a useful application is missing the translation for your
8485 language of choice, please let us know too.
</p
>
8487 <p
>In addition, feedback and help to polish the desktop (menus,
8488 artwork, starters, etc.) is appreciated. We would like to ship a nice
8489 and handy KDE4 desktop targeted for schools out of the box.
</p
>
8491 <p
>The other profiles should be installable, but there is a lot more
8492 work left to be done before they are ready, so do not expect to
8495 <p
>Changes compared to the lenny based version
</p
>
8498 <li
>Everything from Debian Squeeze
8500 <li
>Desktop environment KDE
4.4 =
> the new KDE desktop in
8501 combination with some new artwork
8502 <li
>Web browser Iceweasel
3.5
8503 <li
>OpenOffice.org
3.2
8504 <li
>Educational toolbox GCompris
9.3
8505 <li
>Music creator Rosegarden
10.04.2
8506 <li
>Image editor Gimp
2.6.10
8507 <li
>Virtual universe Celestia
1.6.0
8508 <li
>Virtual stargazer Stellarium
0.10.4
8509 <li
>3D modeler Blender
2.49.2 (new application)
8510 <li
>Video editor Kdenlive
0.7.7 (new application)
8511 </ul
></li
>
8512 <li
>Now using Kerberos for password checking (migration not finished).
8518 <li
>SMTP (sender verification)
8521 <li
>New experimental roaming workstation profile for laptops.
</li
>
8522 <li
>Show welcome page to users when they first log in. The URL is
8523 fetched from LDAP.
</li
>
8524 <li
>New LXDE desktop option, in addition to KDE (default) and Gnome.
</li
>
8525 <li
>General cleanup (not finished)
</li
>
8527 <p
>The following features are not working as they should
</p
>
8530 <li
>No web based administration tool for creating users and groups. The
8531 scripts ldap-createuser-krb and ldap-add-user-to-group can be used
8532 for testing.
</li
>
8533 <li
>DVD installs are missing debian-installer images for the PXE boot,
8534 and do not set up the PXE menu on eth0 because of this. LTSP
8535 clients should still boot from eth1 on thin client servers.
</li
>
8536 <li
>The restructured KDE menu is not implemented.
</li
>
8537 <li
>The LDAP server setup need to be reviewed for security.
</li
>
8538 <li
>The LDAP directory structure need to be reworked.
</li
>
8539 <li
>Different sets of packages are installed when using the DVD and the
8540 netinst CD. More packages are installed using the netinst CD.
</li
>
8541 <li
>The jackd package fail to install. This is believed to be caused by
8542 some ongoing transition, and hopefully should be solved soon. The
8543 jackd1 package can be installed manually for those that need it.
</li
>
8544 <li
>Some packages lack translations. See
8545 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Status/Squeeze for updated status,
8546 and help out with translations.
</li
>
8549 <p
>To download this multiarch netinstall release you can use
</p
>
8552 <li
><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-CD.iso
">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-CD.iso
</a
></li
>
8553 <li
><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-CD.iso
">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-CD.iso
</a
></li
>
8554 <li
>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-CD.iso
</li
>
8556 <p
>To download this multiarch dvd release you can use
</p
>
8559 <li
><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-DVD.iso
">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-DVD.iso
</a
></li
>
8560 <li
><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-DVD.iso
">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-DVD.iso
</a
></li
>
8561 <li
>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-DVD.iso
</li
>
8564 <p
>There is no source DVD available yet. It will be prepared when we
8565 get closer to the final release.
</p
>
8567 <p
>The MD5SUM of these images are
</p
>
8570 <li
>3dbf45d59f42a53518b6e3c9ec3b5eb6 debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-CD.iso
</li
>
8571 <li
>22f2cbfce281d1c6e478be452638675d debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-DVD.iso
</li
>
8574 <p
>The SHA1SUM of these images are
</p
>
8576 <li
>c53d1b69b40cf37cd27aefaf33f6f6a3821bedf0 debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-CD.iso
</li
>
8577 <li
>2ec29d7db676d59d32197b05c277ffe16348376c debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-DVD.iso
</li
>
8579 <p
>How to report bugs:
8580 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugsInBugzilla
</p
>
8582 <p
>Please direct replies to debian-edu@lists.debian.org
</p
>
8588 <title>One step closer to single signon in Debian Edu
</title>
8589 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/One_step_closer_to_single_signon_in_Debian_Edu.html
</link>
8590 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/One_step_closer_to_single_signon_in_Debian_Edu.html
</guid>
8591 <pubDate>Sun,
25 Jul
2010 10:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
8592 <description><p
>The last few months me and the other Debian Edu developers have
8593 been working hard to get the Debian/Squeeze based version of Debian
8594 Edu/Skolelinux into shape. This future version will use Kerberos for
8595 authentication, and services are slowly migrated to single signon,
8596 getting rid of password questions one at the time.
</p
>
8598 <p
>It will also feature a roaming workstation profile with local home
8599 directory, for laptops that are only some times on the Skolelinux
8600 network, and for this profile a shortcut is created in Gnome and KDE
8601 to gain access to the users home directory on the file server. This
8602 shortcut uses SMB at the moment, and yesterday I had time to test if
8603 SMB mounting had started working in KDE after we added the cifs-utils
8604 package. I was pleasantly surprised how well it worked.
</p
>
8606 <p
>Thanks to the recent changes to our samba configuration to get it
8607 to use Kerberos for authentication, there were no question about user
8608 password when mounting the SMB volume. A simple click on the shortcut
8609 in the KDE menu, and a window with the home directory popped
8612 <p
>One step closer to a single signon solution out of the box in
8613 Debian Edu. We already had PAM, LDAP, IMAP and SMTP in place, and now
8614 also Samba. Next step is Cups and hopefully also NFS.
</p
>
8616 <p
>We had planned a alpha0 release of Debian Edu for today, but thanks
8617 to the autobuilder administrators for some architectures being slow to
8618 sign packages, we are still missing the fixed LTSP package we need for
8619 the release. It was uploaded three days ago with urgency=high, and if
8620 it had entered testing yesterday we would have been able to test it in
8621 time for a alpha0 release today. As the binaries for ia64 and powerpc
8622 still not uploaded to the Debian archive, we need to delay the alpha
8623 release another day.
</p
>
8625 <p
>If you want to help out with implementing Kerberos for Debian Edu,
8626 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p
>
8631 <title>What are they searching for - PowerDNS and ISC DHCP in LDAP
</title>
8632 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/What_are_they_searching_for___PowerDNS_and_ISC_DHCP_in_LDAP.html
</link>
8633 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/What_are_they_searching_for___PowerDNS_and_ISC_DHCP_in_LDAP.html
</guid>
8634 <pubDate>Sat,
17 Jul
2010 21:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
8635 <description><p
>This is a
8636 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Time_for_new__LDAP_schemas_replacing_RFC_2307_.html
">followup
</a
>
8638 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Idea_for_a_change_to_LDAP_schemas_allowing_DNS_and_DHCP_info_to_be_combined_into_one_object.html
">previous
8640 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Combining_PowerDNS_and_ISC_DHCP_LDAP_objects.html
">merging
8641 all
</a
> the computer related LDAP objects in Debian Edu.
</p
>
8643 <p
>As a step to try to see if it possible to merge the DNS and DHCP
8644 LDAP objects, I have had a look at how the packages pdns-backend-ldap
8645 and dhcp3-server-ldap in Debian use the LDAP server. The two
8646 implementations are quite different in how they use LDAP.
</p
>
8648 To get this information, I started slapd with debugging enabled and
8649 dumped the debug output to a file to get the LDAP searches performed
8650 on a Debian Edu main-server. Here is a summary.
8652 <p
><strong
>powerdns
</strong
></p
>
8654 <a href=
"http://www.linuxnetworks.de/doc/index.php/PowerDNS_LDAP_Backend
">Clues
8655 on how to
</a
> set up PowerDNS to use a LDAP backend is available on
8658 <p
>PowerDNS have two modes of operation using LDAP as its backend.
8659 One
"strict
" mode where the forward and reverse DNS lookups are done
8660 using the same LDAP objects, and a
"tree
" mode where the forward and
8661 reverse entries are in two different subtrees in LDAP with a structure
8662 based on the DNS names, as in tjener.intern and
8663 2.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa.
</p
>
8665 <p
>In tree mode, the server is set up to use a LDAP subtree as its
8666 base, and uses a
"base
" scoped search for the DNS name by adding
8667 "dc=tjener,dc=intern,
" to the base with a filter for
8668 "(associateddomain=tjener.intern)
" for the forward entry and
8669 "dc=
2,dc=
2,dc=
0,dc=
10,dc=in-addr,dc=arpa,
" with a filter for
8670 "(associateddomain=
2.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa)
" for the reverse entry. For
8671 forward entries, it is looking for attributes named dnsttl, arecord,
8672 nsrecord, cnamerecord, soarecord, ptrrecord, hinforecord, mxrecord,
8673 txtrecord, rprecord, afsdbrecord, keyrecord, aaaarecord, locrecord,
8674 srvrecord, naptrrecord, kxrecord, certrecord, dsrecord, sshfprecord,
8675 ipseckeyrecord, rrsigrecord, nsecrecord, dnskeyrecord, dhcidrecord,
8676 spfrecord and modifytimestamp. For reverse entries it is looking for
8677 the attributes dnsttl, arecord, nsrecord, cnamerecord, soarecord,
8678 ptrrecord, hinforecord, mxrecord, txtrecord, rprecord, aaaarecord,
8679 locrecord, srvrecord, naptrrecord and modifytimestamp. The equivalent
8680 ldapsearch commands could look like this:
</p
>
8682 <blockquote
><pre
>
8683 ldapsearch -h ldap \
8684 -b dc=tjener,dc=intern,ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no \
8685 -s base -x
'(associateddomain=tjener.intern)
' dNSTTL aRecord nSRecord \
8686 cNAMERecord sOARecord pTRRecord hInfoRecord mXRecord tXTRecord \
8687 rPRecord aFSDBRecord KeyRecord aAAARecord lOCRecord sRVRecord \
8688 nAPTRRecord kXRecord certRecord dSRecord sSHFPRecord iPSecKeyRecord \
8689 rRSIGRecord nSECRecord dNSKeyRecord dHCIDRecord sPFRecord modifyTimestamp
8691 ldapsearch -h ldap \
8692 -b dc=
2,dc=
2,dc=
0,dc=
10,dc=in-addr,dc=arpa,ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no \
8693 -s base -x
'(associateddomain=
2.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa)
'
8694 dnsttl, arecord, nsrecord, cnamerecord soarecord ptrrecord \
8695 hinforecord mxrecord txtrecord rprecord aaaarecord locrecord \
8696 srvrecord naptrrecord modifytimestamp
8697 </pre
></blockquote
>
8699 <p
>In Debian Edu/Lenny, the PowerDNS tree mode is used with
8700 ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no as the base, and these are two
8701 example LDAP objects used there. In addition to these objects, the
8702 parent objects all th way up to ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
8703 also exist.
</p
>
8705 <blockquote
><pre
>
8706 dn: dc=tjener,dc=intern,ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
8708 objectclass: dnsdomain
8709 objectclass: domainrelatedobject
8712 associateddomain: tjener.intern
8714 dn: dc=
2,dc=
2,dc=
0,dc=
10,dc=in-addr,dc=arpa,ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
8716 objectclass: dnsdomain2
8717 objectclass: domainrelatedobject
8719 ptrrecord: tjener.intern
8720 associateddomain:
2.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa
8721 </pre
></blockquote
>
8723 <p
>In strict mode, the server behaves differently. When looking for
8724 forward DNS entries, it is doing a
"subtree
" scoped search with the
8725 same base as in the tree mode for a object with filter
8726 "(associateddomain=tjener.intern)
" and requests the attributes dnsttl,
8727 arecord, nsrecord, cnamerecord, soarecord, ptrrecord, hinforecord,
8728 mxrecord, txtrecord, rprecord, aaaarecord, locrecord, srvrecord,
8729 naptrrecord and modifytimestamp. For reverse entires it also do a
8730 subtree scoped search but this time the filter is
"(arecord=
10.0.2.2)
"
8731 and the requested attributes are associateddomain, dnsttl and
8732 modifytimestamp. In short, in strict mode the objects with ptrrecord
8733 go away, and the arecord attribute in the forward object is used
8736 <p
>The forward and reverse searches can be simulated using ldapsearch
8737 like this:
</p
>
8739 <blockquote
><pre
>
8740 ldapsearch -h ldap -b ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no -s sub -x \
8741 '(associateddomain=tjener.intern)
' dNSTTL aRecord nSRecord \
8742 cNAMERecord sOARecord pTRRecord hInfoRecord mXRecord tXTRecord \
8743 rPRecord aFSDBRecord KeyRecord aAAARecord lOCRecord sRVRecord \
8744 nAPTRRecord kXRecord certRecord dSRecord sSHFPRecord iPSecKeyRecord \
8745 rRSIGRecord nSECRecord dNSKeyRecord dHCIDRecord sPFRecord modifyTimestamp
8747 ldapsearch -h ldap -b ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no -s sub -x \
8748 '(arecord=
10.0.2.2)
' associateddomain dnsttl modifytimestamp
8749 </pre
></blockquote
>
8751 <p
>In addition to the forward and reverse searches , there is also a
8752 search for SOA records, which behave similar to the forward and
8753 reverse lookups.
</p
>
8755 <p
>A thing to note with the PowerDNS behaviour is that it do not
8756 specify any objectclass names, and instead look for the attributes it
8757 need to generate a DNS reply. This make it able to work with any
8758 objectclass that provide the needed attributes.
</p
>
8760 <p
>The attributes are normally provided in the cosine (RFC
1274) and
8761 dnsdomain2 schemas. The latter is used for reverse entries like
8762 ptrrecord and recent DNS additions like aaaarecord and srvrecord.
</p
>
8764 <p
>In Debian Edu, we have created DNS objects using the object classes
8765 dcobject (for dc), dnsdomain or dnsdomain2 (structural, for the DNS
8766 attributes) and domainrelatedobject (for associatedDomain). The use
8767 of structural object classes make it impossible to combine these
8768 classes with the object classes used by DHCP.
</p
>
8770 <p
>There are other schemas that could be used too, for example the
8771 dnszone structural object class used by Gosa and bind-sdb for the DNS
8772 attributes combined with the domainrelatedobject object class, but in
8773 this case some unused attributes would have to be included as well
8774 (zonename and relativedomainname).
</p
>
8776 <p
>My proposal for Debian Edu would be to switch PowerDNS to strict
8777 mode and not use any of the existing objectclasses (dnsdomain,
8778 dnsdomain2 and dnszone) when one want to combine the DNS information
8779 with DHCP information, and instead create a auxiliary object class
8780 defined something like this (using the attributes defined for
8781 dnsdomain and dnsdomain2 or dnszone):
</p
>
8783 <blockquote
><pre
>
8784 objectclass ( some-oid NAME
'dnsDomainAux
'
8787 MAY ( ARecord $ MDRecord $ MXRecord $ NSRecord $ SOARecord $ CNAMERecord $
8788 DNSTTL $ DNSClass $ PTRRecord $ HINFORecord $ MINFORecord $
8789 TXTRecord $ SIGRecord $ KEYRecord $ AAAARecord $ LOCRecord $
8790 NXTRecord $ SRVRecord $ NAPTRRecord $ KXRecord $ CERTRecord $
8791 A6Record $ DNAMERecord
8793 </pre
></blockquote
>
8795 <p
>This will allow any object to become a DNS entry when combined with
8796 the domainrelatedobject object class, and allow any entity to include
8797 all the attributes PowerDNS wants. I
've sent an email to the PowerDNS
8798 developers asking for their view on this schema and if they are
8799 interested in providing such schema with PowerDNS, and I hope my
8800 message will be accepted into their mailing list soon.
</p
>
8802 <p
><strong
>ISC dhcp
</strong
></p
>
8804 <p
>The DHCP server searches for specific objectclass and requests all
8805 the object attributes, and then uses the attributes it want. This
8806 make it harder to figure out exactly what attributes are used, but
8807 thanks to the working example in Debian Edu I can at least get an idea
8808 what is needed without having to read the source code.
</p
>
8810 <p
>In the DHCP server configuration, the LDAP base to use and the
8811 search filter to use to locate the correct dhcpServer entity is
8812 stored. These are the relevant entries from
8813 /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf:
</p
>
8815 <blockquote
><pre
>
8816 ldap-base-dn
"dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
";
8817 ldap-dhcp-server-cn
"dhcp
";
8818 </pre
></blockquote
>
8820 <p
>The DHCP server uses this information to nest all the DHCP
8821 configuration it need. The cn
"dhcp
" is located using the given LDAP
8822 base and the filter
"(
&(objectClass=dhcpServer)(cn=dhcp))
". The
8823 search result is this entry:
</p
>
8825 <blockquote
><pre
>
8826 dn: cn=dhcp,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
8829 objectClass: dhcpServer
8830 dhcpServiceDN: cn=DHCP Config,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
8831 </pre
></blockquote
>
8833 <p
>The content of the dhcpServiceDN attribute is next used to locate the
8834 subtree with DHCP configuration. The DHCP configuration subtree base
8835 is located using a base scope search with base
"cn=DHCP
8836 Config,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
" and filter
8837 "(
&(objectClass=dhcpService)(|(dhcpPrimaryDN=cn=dhcp,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no)(dhcpSecondaryDN=cn=dhcp,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no)))
".
8838 The search result is this entry:
</p
>
8840 <blockquote
><pre
>
8841 dn: cn=DHCP Config,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
8844 objectClass: dhcpService
8845 objectClass: dhcpOptions
8846 dhcpPrimaryDN: cn=dhcp, dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
8847 dhcpStatements: ddns-update-style none
8848 dhcpStatements: authoritative
8849 dhcpOption: smtp-server code
69 = array of ip-address
8850 dhcpOption: www-server code
72 = array of ip-address
8851 dhcpOption: wpad-url code
252 = text
8852 </pre
></blockquote
>
8854 <p
>Next, the entire subtree is processed, one level at the time. When
8855 all the DHCP configuration is loaded, it is ready to receive requests.
8856 The subtree in Debian Edu contain objects with object classes
8857 top/dhcpService/dhcpOptions, top/dhcpSharedNetwork/dhcpOptions,
8858 top/dhcpSubnet, top/dhcpGroup and top/dhcpHost. These provide options
8859 and information about netmasks, dynamic range etc. Leaving out the
8860 details here because it is not relevant for the focus of my
8861 investigation, which is to see if it is possible to merge dns and dhcp
8862 related computer objects.
</p
>
8864 <p
>When a DHCP request come in, LDAP is searched for the MAC address
8865 of the client (
00:
00:
00:
00:
00:
00 in this example), using a subtree
8866 scoped search with
"cn=DHCP Config,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
" as
8867 the base and
"(
&(objectClass=dhcpHost)(dhcpHWAddress=ethernet
8868 00:
00:
00:
00:
00:
00))
" as the filter. This is what a host object look
8871 <blockquote
><pre
>
8872 dn: cn=hostname,cn=group1,cn=THINCLIENTS,cn=DHCP Config,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
8875 objectClass: dhcpHost
8876 dhcpHWAddress: ethernet
00:
00:
00:
00:
00:
00
8877 dhcpStatements: fixed-address hostname
8878 </pre
></blockquote
>
8880 <p
>There is less flexiblity in the way LDAP searches are done here.
8881 The object classes need to have fixed names, and the configuration
8882 need to be stored in a fairly specific LDAP structure. On the
8883 positive side, the invidiual dhcpHost entires can be anywhere without
8884 the DN pointed to by the dhcpServer entries. The latter should make
8885 it possible to group all host entries in a subtree next to the
8886 configuration entries, and this subtree can also be shared with the
8887 DNS server if the schema proposed above is combined with the dhcpHost
8888 structural object class.
8890 <p
><strong
>Conclusion
</strong
></p
>
8892 <p
>The PowerDNS implementation seem to be very flexible when it come
8893 to which LDAP schemas to use. While its
"tree
" mode is rigid when it
8894 come to the the LDAP structure, the
"strict
" mode is very flexible,
8895 allowing DNS objects to be stored anywhere under the base cn specified
8896 in the configuration.
</p
>
8898 <p
>The DHCP implementation on the other hand is very inflexible, both
8899 regarding which LDAP schemas to use and which LDAP structure to use.
8900 I guess one could implement ones own schema, as long as the
8901 objectclasses and attributes have the names used, but this do not
8902 really help when the DHCP subtree need to have a fairly fixed
8903 structure.
</p
>
8905 <p
>Based on the observed behaviour, I suspect a LDAP structure like
8906 this might work for Debian Edu:
</p
>
8908 <blockquote
><pre
>
8910 cn=machine-info (dhcpService) - dhcpServiceDN points here
8911 cn=dhcp (dhcpServer)
8912 cn=dhcp-internal (dhcpSharedNetwork/dhcpOptions)
8913 cn=
10.0.2.0 (dhcpSubnet)
8914 cn=group1 (dhcpGroup/dhcpOptions)
8915 cn=dhcp-thinclients (dhcpSharedNetwork/dhcpOptions)
8916 cn=
192.168.0.0 (dhcpSubnet)
8917 cn=group1 (dhcpGroup/dhcpOptions)
8918 ou=machines - PowerDNS base points here
8919 cn=hostname (dhcpHost/domainrelatedobject/dnsDomainAux)
8920 </pre
></blockquote
>
8922 <P
>This is not tested yet. If the DHCP server require the dhcpHost
8923 entries to be in the dhcpGroup subtrees, the entries can be stored
8924 there instead of a common machines subtree, and the PowerDNS base
8925 would have to be moved one level up to the machine-info subtree.
</p
>
8927 <p
>The combined object under the machines subtree would look something
8928 like this:
</p
>
8930 <blockquote
><pre
>
8931 dn: dc=hostname,ou=machines,cn=machine-info,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
8934 objectClass: dhcpHost
8935 objectclass: domainrelatedobject
8936 objectclass: dnsDomainAux
8937 associateddomain: hostname.intern
8938 arecord:
10.11.12.13
8939 dhcpHWAddress: ethernet
00:
00:
00:
00:
00:
00
8940 dhcpStatements: fixed-address hostname.intern
8941 </pre
></blockquote
>
8943 </p
>One could even add the LTSP configuration associated with a given
8944 machine, as long as the required attributes are available in a
8945 auxiliary object class.
</p
>
8950 <title>Combining PowerDNS and ISC DHCP LDAP objects
</title>
8951 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Combining_PowerDNS_and_ISC_DHCP_LDAP_objects.html
</link>
8952 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Combining_PowerDNS_and_ISC_DHCP_LDAP_objects.html
</guid>
8953 <pubDate>Wed,
14 Jul
2010 23:
45:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
8954 <description><p
>For a while now, I have wanted to find a way to change the DNS and
8955 DHCP services in Debian Edu to use the same LDAP objects for a given
8956 computer, to avoid the possibility of having a inconsistent state for
8957 a computer in LDAP (as in DHCP but no DNS entry or the other way
8958 around) and make it easier to add computers to LDAP.
</p
>
8960 <p
>I
've looked at how powerdns and dhcpd is using LDAP, and using this
8961 information finally found a solution that seem to work.
</p
>
8963 <p
>The old setup required three LDAP objects for a given computer.
8964 One forward DNS entry, one reverse DNS entry and one DHCP entry. If
8965 we switch powerdns to use its strict LDAP method (ldap-method=strict
8966 in pdns-debian-edu.conf), the forward and reverse DNS entries are
8967 merged into one while making it impossible to transfer the reverse map
8968 to a slave DNS server.
</p
>
8970 <p
>If we also replace the object class used to get the DNS related
8971 attributes to one allowing these attributes to be combined with the
8972 dhcphost object class, we can merge the DNS and DHCP entries into one.
8973 I
've written such object class in the dnsdomainaux.schema file (need
8974 proper OIDs, but that is a minor issue), and tested the setup. It
8975 seem to work.
</p
>
8977 <p
>With this test setup in place, we can get away with one LDAP object
8978 for both DNS and DHCP, and even the LTSP configuration I suggested in
8979 an earlier email. The combined LDAP object will look something like
8982 <blockquote
><pre
>
8983 dn: cn=hostname,cn=group1,cn=THINCLIENTS,cn=DHCP Config,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
8985 objectClass: dhcphost
8986 objectclass: domainrelatedobject
8987 objectclass: dnsdomainaux
8988 associateddomain: hostname.intern
8989 arecord:
10.11.12.13
8990 dhcphwaddress: ethernet
00:
00:
00:
00:
00:
00
8991 dhcpstatements: fixed-address hostname
8993 </pre
></blockquote
>
8995 <p
>The DNS server uses the associateddomain and arecord entries, while
8996 the DHCP server uses the dhcphwaddress and dhcpstatements entries
8997 before asking DNS to resolve the fixed-adddress. LTSP will use
8998 dhcphwaddress or associateddomain and the ldapconfig* attributes.
</p
>
9000 <p
>I am not yet sure if I can get the DHCP server to look for its
9001 dhcphost in a different location, to allow us to put the objects
9002 outside the
"DHCP Config
" subtree, but hope to figure out a way to do
9003 that. If I can
't figure out a way to do that, we can still get rid of
9004 the hosts subtree and move all its content into the DHCP Config tree
9005 (which probably should be renamed to be more related to the new
9006 content. I suspect cn=dnsdhcp,ou=services or something like that
9007 might be a good place to put it.
</p
>
9009 <p
>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
9010 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p
>
9015 <title>Idea for storing LTSP configuration in LDAP
</title>
9016 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Idea_for_storing_LTSP_configuration_in_LDAP.html
</link>
9017 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Idea_for_storing_LTSP_configuration_in_LDAP.html
</guid>
9018 <pubDate>Sun,
11 Jul
2010 22:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
9019 <description><p
>Vagrant mentioned on IRC today that ltsp_config now support
9020 sourcing files from /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp_config.d/ on the thin
9021 clients, and that this can be used to fetch configuration from LDAP if
9022 Debian Edu choose to store configuration there.
</p
>
9024 <p
>Armed with this information, I got inspired and wrote a test module
9025 to get configuration from LDAP. The idea is to look up the MAC
9026 address of the client in LDAP, and look for attributes on the form
9027 ltspconfigsetting=value, and use this to export SETTING=value to the
9028 LTSP clients.
</p
>
9030 <p
>The goal is to be able to store the LTSP configuration attributes
9031 in a
"computer
" LDAP object used by both DNS and DHCP, and thus
9032 allowing us to store all information about a computer in one place.
</p
>
9034 <p
>This is a untested draft implementation, and I welcome feedback on
9035 this approach. A real LDAP schema for the ltspClientAux objectclass
9036 need to be written. Comments, suggestions, etc?
</p
>
9038 <blockquote
><pre
>
9039 # Store in /opt/ltsp/$arch/usr/share/ltsp/ltsp_config.d/ldap-config
9041 # Fetch LTSP client settings from LDAP based on MAC address
9043 # Uses ethernet address as stored in the dhcpHost objectclass using
9044 # the dhcpHWAddress attribute or ethernet address stored in the
9045 # ieee802Device objectclass with the macAddress attribute.
9047 # This module is written to be schema agnostic, and only depend on the
9048 # existence of attribute names.
9050 # The LTSP configuration variables are saved directly using a
9051 # ltspConfig prefix and uppercasing the rest of the attribute name.
9052 # To set the SERVER variable, set the ltspConfigServer attribute.
9054 # Some LDAP schema should be created with all the relevant
9055 # configuration settings. Something like this should work:
9057 # objectclass (
1.1.2.2 NAME
'ltspClientAux
'
9060 # MAY ( ltspConfigServer $ ltsConfigSound $ ... )
9062 LDAPSERVER=$(debian-edu-ldapserver)
9063 if [
"$LDAPSERVER
" ] ; then
9064 LDAPBASE=$(debian-edu-ldapserver -b)
9065 for MAC in $(LANG=C ifconfig |grep -i hwaddr| awk
'{print $
5}
'|sort -u) ; do
9066 filter=
"(|(dhcpHWAddress=ethernet $MAC)(macAddress=$MAC))
"
9067 ldapsearch -h
"$LDAPSERVER
" -b
"$LDAPBASE
" -v -x
"$filter
" | \
9068 grep
'^ltspConfig
' | while read attr value ; do
9069 # Remove prefix and convert to upper case
9070 attr=$(echo $attr | sed
's/^ltspConfig//i
' | tr a-z A-Z)
9071 # bass value on to clients
9072 eval
"$attr=$value; export $attr
"
9076 </pre
></blockquote
>
9078 <p
>I
'm not sure this shell construction will work, because I suspect
9079 the while block might end up in a subshell causing the variables set
9080 there to not show up in ltsp-config, but if that is the case I am sure
9081 the code can be restructured to make sure the variables are passed on.
9082 I expect that can be solved with some testing. :)
</p
>
9084 <p
>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
9085 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p
>
9087 <p
>Update
2010-
07-
17: I am aware of another effort to store LTSP
9088 configuration in LDAP that was created around year
2000 by
9089 <a href=
"http://www.pcxperience.com/thinclient/documentation/ldap.html
">PC
9090 Xperience, Inc.,
2000</a
>. I found its
9091 <a href=
"http://people.redhat.com/alikins/ltsp/ldap/
">files
</a
> on a
9092 personal home page over at redhat.com.
</p
>
9097 <title>jXplorer, a very nice LDAP GUI
</title>
9098 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/jXplorer__a_very_nice_LDAP_GUI.html
</link>
9099 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/jXplorer__a_very_nice_LDAP_GUI.html
</guid>
9100 <pubDate>Fri,
9 Jul
2010 12:
55:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
9101 <description><p
>Since
9102 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/LUMA__a_very_nice_LDAP_GUI.html
">my
9103 last post
</a
> about available LDAP tools in Debian, I was told about a
9104 LDAP GUI that is even better than luma. The java application
9105 <a href=
"http://jxplorer.org/
">jXplorer
</a
> is claimed to be capable of
9106 moving LDAP objects and subtrees using drag-and-drop, and can
9107 authenticate using Kerberos. I have only tested the Kerberos
9108 authentication, but do not have a LDAP setup allowing me to rewrite
9109 LDAP with my test user yet. It is
9110 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/j/jxplorer.html
">available in
9111 Debian
</a
> testing and unstable at the moment. The only problem I
9112 have with it is how it handle errors. If something go wrong, its
9113 non-intuitive behaviour require me to go through some query work list
9114 and remove the failing query. Nothing big, but very annoying.
</p
>
9119 <title>Lenny-
>Squeeze upgrades, apt vs aptitude with the Gnome desktop
</title>
9120 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__apt_vs_aptitude_with_the_Gnome_desktop.html
</link>
9121 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__apt_vs_aptitude_with_the_Gnome_desktop.html
</guid>
9122 <pubDate>Sat,
3 Jul
2010 23:
55:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
9123 <description><p
>Here is a short update on my
<a
9124 href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/~pere/debian-upgrade-testing/
">my
9125 Debian Lenny-
>Squeeze upgrade testing
</a
>. Here is a summary of the
9126 difference for Gnome when it is upgraded by apt-get and aptitude. I
'm
9127 not reporting the status for KDE, because the upgrade crashes when
9128 aptitude try because of missing conflicts
9129 (
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
584861">#
584861</a
> and
9130 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
585716">#
585716</a
>).
</p
>
9132 <p
>At the end of the upgrade test script, dpkg -l is executed to get a
9133 complete list of the installed packages. Based on this I see these
9134 differences when I did a test run today. As usual, I do not really
9135 know what the correct set of packages would be, but thought it best to
9136 publish the difference.
</p
>
9138 <p
>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p
>
9140 <blockquote
><p
>
9141 at-spi cpp-
4.3 finger gnome-spell gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
9142 libatspi1.0-
0 libcupsys2 libeel2-data libgail-common libgdl-
1-common
9143 libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomeprintui2.2-common libgnomevfs2-bin
9144 libgtksourceview-common libpt-
1.10.10-plugins-alsa
9145 libpt-
1.10.10-plugins-v4l libservlet2.4-java libxalan2-java
9146 libxerces2-java openoffice.org-writer2latex openssl-blacklist p7zip
9147 python-
4suite-xml python-eggtrayicon python-gtkhtml2
9148 python-gtkmozembed svgalibg1 xserver-xephyr zip
9149 </p
></blockquote
>
9151 <p
>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
</p
>
9153 <blockquote
><p
>
9154 bluez-utils dhcdbd djvulibre-desktop epiphany-gecko
9155 gnome-app-install gnome-mount gnome-vfs-obexftp gnome-volume-manager
9156 libao2 libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-core5 libbind9-
50
9157 libbluetooth2 libcamel1.2-
11 libcdio7 libcucul0 libcurl3
9158 libdirectfb-
1.0-
0 libdvdread3 libedata-cal1.2-
6 libedataserver1.2-
9
9159 libeel2-
2.20 libepc-
1.0-
1 libepc-ui-
1.0-
1 libexchange-storage1.2-
3
9160 libfaad0 libgd2-noxpm libgda3-
3 libgda3-common libggz2 libggzcore9
9161 libggzmod4 libgksu1.2-
0 libgksuui1.0-
1 libgmyth0 libgnome-desktop-
2
9162 libgnome-pilot2 libgnomecups1.0-
1 libgnomeprint2.2-
0
9163 libgnomeprintui2.2-
0 libgpod3 libgraphviz4 libgtkhtml2-
0
9164 libgtksourceview1.0-
0 libgucharmap6 libhesiod0 libicu38 libisccc50
9165 libisccfg50 libiw29 libkpathsea4 libltdl3 liblwres50 libmagick++
10
9166 libmagick10 libmalaga7 libmtp7 libmysqlclient15off libnautilus-burn4
9167 libneon27 libnm-glib0 libnm-util0 libopal-
2.2 libosp5
9168 libparted1.8-
10 libpisock9 libpisync1 libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler3
9169 libpt-
1.10.10 libraw1394-
8 libsensors3 libsmbios2 libsoup2.2-
8
9170 libssh2-
1 libsuitesparse-
3.1.0 libswfdec-
0.6-
90 libtalloc1
9171 libtotem-plparser10 libtrackerclient0 libvoikko1 libxalan2-java-gcj
9172 libxerces2-java-gcj libxklavier12 libxtrap6 libxxf86misc1 libzephyr3
9173 mysql-common swfdec-gnome totem-gstreamer wodim
9174 </p
></blockquote
>
9176 <p
>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p
>
9178 <blockquote
><p
>
9179 gnome gnome-desktop-environment hamster-applet python-gnomeapplet
9180 python-gnomekeyring python-wnck rhythmbox-plugins xorg
9181 xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
9182 xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
9183 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-video-all
9184 xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati
9185 xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus
9186 xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
9187 xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128
9188 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-mach64
9189 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
9190 xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-nv
9191 xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon
9192 xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd xserver-xorg-video-rendition
9193 xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge
9194 xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
9195 xserver-xorg-video-sis xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
9196 xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-tga
9197 xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng
9198 xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
9199 xserver-xorg-video-voodoo
9200 </p
></blockquote
>
9202 <p
>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p
>
9204 <blockquote
><p
>
9205 deskbar-applet xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core
9206 xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-intel
9207 xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
9208 </p
></blockquote
>
9210 <p
>I was told on IRC that the xorg-xserver package was
9211 <a href=
"http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/xserver/xorg-server.git;a=commit;h=
9c8080d06c457932d3bfec021c69ac000aa60120
">changed
9212 in git
</a
> today to try to get apt-get to not remove xorg completely.
9213 No idea when it hits Squeeze, but when it does I hope it will reduce
9214 the difference somewhat.
9219 <title>Caching password, user and group on a roaming Debian laptop
</title>
9220 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Caching_password__user_and_group_on_a_roaming_Debian_laptop.html
</link>
9221 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Caching_password__user_and_group_on_a_roaming_Debian_laptop.html
</guid>
9222 <pubDate>Thu,
1 Jul
2010 11:
40:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
9223 <description><p
>For a laptop, centralized user directories and password checking is
9224 a bit troubling. Laptops are typically used also when not connected
9225 to the network, and it is vital for a user to be able to log in or
9226 unlock the screen saver also when a central server is unavailable.
9227 This is possible by caching passwords and directory information (user
9228 and group attributes) locally, and the packages to do so are available
9229 in Debian. Here follow two recipes to set this up in Debian/Squeeze.
9230 It is also possible to set up in Debian/Lenny, but require more manual
9231 setup there because pam-auth-update is missing in Lenny.
</p
>
9233 <h2
>LDAP/Kerberos + nscd + libpam-ccreds + libpam-mklocaluser/pam_mkhomedir
</h2
>
9235 This is the traditional method with a twist. The password caching is
9236 provided by libpam-ccreds (version
10-
4 or later is needed on
9237 Squeeze), and the directory caching is done by nscd. The directory
9238 lookup and password checking is done using LDAP. If one want to use
9239 Kerberos for password checking the libpam-ldapd package can be
9240 replaced with libpam-krb5 or libpam-heimdal. If one is happy having a
9241 local home directory with the path listed in LDAP, one can use the
9242 pam_mkhomedir module from pam-modules to make this happen instead of
9243 using libpam-mklocaluser. A setup for pam-auth-update to enable
9244 pam_mkhomedir will have to be written until a fix for
9245 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
568577">bug #
568577</a
> is in the
9246 archive. Because I believe it is a bad idea to have local home
9247 directories using misleading paths like /site/server/partition/, I
9248 prefer to create a local user with the home directory in /home/. This
9249 is done using the libpam-mklocaluser package.
</p
>
9251 <p
>These packages need to be installed and configured
</p
>
9253 <blockquote
><pre
>
9254 libnss-ldapd libpam-ldapd nscd libpam-ccreds libpam-mklocaluser
9255 </pre
></blockquote
>
9257 <p
>The ldapd packages will ask for LDAP connection information, and
9258 one have to fill in the values that fits ones own site. Make sure the
9259 PAM part uses encrypted connections, to make sure the password is not
9260 sent in clear text to the LDAP server. I
've been unable to get TLS
9261 certificate checking for a self signed certificate working, which make
9262 LDAP authentication unsafe for Debian Edu (nslcd is not checking if it
9263 is talking to the correct LDAP server), and very much welcome feedback
9264 on how to get this working.
</p
>
9266 <p
>Because nscd do not have a default configuration fit for offline
9267 caching until
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
485282">bug #
485282</a
>
9268 is fixed, this configuration should be used instead of the one
9269 currently in /etc/nscd.conf. The changes are in the fields
9270 reload-count and positive-time-to-live, and is based on the
9271 instructions I found in the
9272 <a href=
"http://www.flyn.org/laptopldap/
">LDAP for Mobile Laptops
</a
>
9273 instructions by Flyn Computing.
</p
>
9275 <blockquote
><pre
>
9277 reload-count unlimited
9280 enable-cache passwd yes
9281 positive-time-to-live passwd
2592000
9282 negative-time-to-live passwd
20
9283 suggested-size passwd
211
9284 check-files passwd yes
9285 persistent passwd yes
9287 max-db-size passwd
33554432
9288 auto-propagate passwd yes
9290 enable-cache group yes
9291 positive-time-to-live group
2592000
9292 negative-time-to-live group
20
9293 suggested-size group
211
9294 check-files group yes
9295 persistent group yes
9297 max-db-size group
33554432
9298 auto-propagate group yes
9300 enable-cache hosts no
9301 positive-time-to-live hosts
2592000
9302 negative-time-to-live hosts
20
9303 suggested-size hosts
211
9304 check-files hosts yes
9305 persistent hosts yes
9307 max-db-size hosts
33554432
9309 enable-cache services yes
9310 positive-time-to-live services
2592000
9311 negative-time-to-live services
20
9312 suggested-size services
211
9313 check-files services yes
9314 persistent services yes
9316 max-db-size services
33554432
9317 </pre
></blockquote
>
9319 <p
>While we wait for a mechanism to update /etc/nsswitch.conf
9320 automatically like the one provided in
9321 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
496915">bug #
496915</a
>, the file
9322 content need to be manually replaced to ensure LDAP is used as the
9323 directory service on the machine. /etc/nsswitch.conf should normally
9324 look like this:
</p
>
9326 <blockquote
><pre
>
9330 hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
9336 netgroup: files ldap
9337 </pre
></blockquote
>
9339 <p
>The important parts are that ldap is listed last for passwd, group,
9340 shadow and netgroup.
</p
>
9342 <p
>With these changes in place, any user in LDAP will be able to log
9343 in locally on the machine using for example kdm, get a local home
9344 directory created and have the password as well as user and group
9347 <h2
>LDAP/Kerberos + nss-updatedb + libpam-ccreds +
9348 libpam-mklocaluser/pam_mkhomedir
</h2
>
9350 <p
>Because nscd have had its share of problems, and seem to have
9351 problems doing proper caching, I
've seen suggestions and recipes to
9352 use nss-updatedb to copy parts of the LDAP database locally when the
9353 LDAP database is available. I have not tested such setup, because I
9354 discovered sssd.
</p
>
9356 <h2
>LDAP/Kerberos + sssd + libpam-mklocaluser
</h2
>
9358 <p
>A more flexible and robust setup than the nscd combination
9359 mentioned earlier that has shown up recently, is the
9360 <a href=
"https://fedorahosted.org/sssd/
">sssd
</a
> package from Redhat.
9361 It is part of the
<a href=
"http://www.freeipa.org/
">FreeIPA
</A
> project
9362 to provide a Active Directory like directory service for Linux
9363 machines. The sssd system combines the caching of passwords and user
9364 information into one package, and remove the need for nscd and
9365 libpam-ccreds. It support LDAP and Kerberos, but not NIS. Version
9366 1.2 do not support netgroups, but it is said that it will support this
9367 in version
1.5 expected to show up later in
2010. Because the
9368 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/sssd.html
">sssd package
</a
>
9369 was missing in Debian, I ended up co-maintaining it with Werner, and
9370 version
1.2 is now in testing.
9372 <p
>These packages need to be installed and configured to get the
9373 roaming setup I want
</p
>
9375 <blockquote
><pre
>
9376 libpam-sss libnss-sss libpam-mklocaluser
9377 </pre
></blockquote
>
9379 The complete setup of sssd is done by editing/creating
9380 <tt
>/etc/sssd/sssd.conf
</tt
>.
9382 <blockquote
><pre
>
9384 config_file_version =
2
9385 reconnection_retries =
3
9391 filter_groups = root
9393 reconnection_retries =
3
9396 reconnection_retries =
3
9400 cache_credentials = true
9403 auth_provider = ldap
9404 chpass_provider = ldap
9406 ldap_uri = ldap://ldap
9407 ldap_search_base = dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
9408 ldap_tls_reqcert = never
9409 ldap_tls_cacert = /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
9410 </pre
></blockquote
>
9412 <p
>I got the same problem here with certificate checking. Had to set
9413 "ldap_tls_reqcert = never
" to get it working.
</p
>
9415 <p
>With the libnss-sss package in testing at the moment, the
9416 nsswitch.conf file is update automatically, so there is no need to
9417 modify it manually.
</p
>
9419 <p
>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
9420 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p
>
9425 <title>LUMA, a very nice LDAP GUI
</title>
9426 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/LUMA__a_very_nice_LDAP_GUI.html
</link>
9427 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/LUMA__a_very_nice_LDAP_GUI.html
</guid>
9428 <pubDate>Mon,
28 Jun
2010 00:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
9429 <description><p
>The last few days I have been looking into the status of the LDAP
9430 directory in Debian Edu, and in the process I started to miss a GUI
9431 tool to browse the LDAP tree. The only one I was able to find in
9432 Debian/Squeeze and Lenny is
9433 <a href=
"http://luma.sourceforge.net/
">LUMA
</a
>, which has proved to
9434 be a great tool to get a overview of the current LDAP directory
9435 populated by default in Skolelinux. Thanks to it, I have been able to
9436 find empty and obsolete subtrees, misplaced objects and duplicate
9437 objects. It will be installed by default in Debian/Squeeze. If you
9438 are working with LDAP, give it a go. :)
</p
>
9440 <p
>I did notice one problem with it I have not had time to report to
9441 the BTS yet. There is no .desktop file in the package, so the tool do
9442 not show up in the Gnome and KDE menus, but only deep down in in the
9443 Debian submenu in KDE. I hope that can be fixed before Squeeze is
9446 <p
>I have not yet been able to get it to modify the tree yet. I would
9447 like to move objects and remove subtrees directly in the GUI, but have
9448 not found a way to do that with LUMA yet. So in the mean time, I use
9449 <a href=
"http://www.lichteblau.com/ldapvi/
">ldapvi
</a
> for that.
</p
>
9451 <p
>If you have tips on other GUI tools for LDAP that might be useful
9452 in Debian Edu, please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p
>
9454 <p
>Update
2010-
06-
29: Ross Reedstrom tipped us about the
9455 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gq.html
">gq
</a
> package as a
9456 useful GUI alternative. It seem like a good tool, but is unmaintained
9457 in Debian and got a RC bug keeping it out of Squeeze. Unless that
9458 changes, it will not be an option for Debian Edu based on Squeeze.
</p
>
9463 <title>Idea for a change to LDAP schemas allowing DNS and DHCP info to be combined into one object
</title>
9464 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Idea_for_a_change_to_LDAP_schemas_allowing_DNS_and_DHCP_info_to_be_combined_into_one_object.html
</link>
9465 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Idea_for_a_change_to_LDAP_schemas_allowing_DNS_and_DHCP_info_to_be_combined_into_one_object.html
</guid>
9466 <pubDate>Thu,
24 Jun
2010 00:
35:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
9467 <description><p
>A while back, I
9468 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Time_for_new__LDAP_schemas_replacing_RFC_2307_.html
">complained
9469 about the fact
</a
> that it is not possible with the provided schemas
9470 for storing DNS and DHCP information in LDAP to combine the two sets
9471 of information into one LDAP object representing a computer.
</p
>
9473 <p
>In the mean time, I discovered that a simple fix would be to make
9474 the dhcpHost object class auxiliary, to allow it to be combined with
9475 the dNSDomain object class, and thus forming one object for one
9476 computer when storing both DHCP and DNS information in LDAP.
</p
>
9478 <p
>If I understand this correctly, it is not safe to do this change
9479 without also changing the assigned number for the object class, and I
9480 do not know enough about LDAP schema design to do that properly for
9481 Debian Edu.
</p
>
9483 <p
>Anyway, for future reference, this is how I believe we could change
9485 <a href=
"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dhc-ldap-schema-
00">DHCP
9486 schema
</a
> to solve at least part of the problem with the LDAP schemas
9487 available today from IETF.
</p
>
9490 --- dhcp.schema (revision
65192)
9491 +++ dhcp.schema (working copy)
9493 objectclass (
2.16.840.1.113719.1.203.6.6
9494 NAME
'dhcpHost
'
9495 DESC
'This represents information about a particular client
'
9499 MAY (dhcpLeaseDN $ dhcpHWAddress $ dhcpOptionsDN $ dhcpStatements $ dhcpComments $ dhcpOption)
9500 X-NDS_CONTAINMENT (
'dhcpService
' 'dhcpSubnet
' 'dhcpGroup
') )
9503 <p
>I very much welcome clues on how to do this properly for Debian
9504 Edu/Squeeze. We provide the DHCP schema in our debian-edu-config
9505 package, and should thus be free to rewrite it as we see fit.
</p
>
9507 <p
>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
9508 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p
>
9513 <title>Lenny-
>Squeeze upgrades, removals by apt and aptitude
</title>
9514 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__removals_by_apt_and_aptitude.html
</link>
9515 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__removals_by_apt_and_aptitude.html
</guid>
9516 <pubDate>Sun,
13 Jun
2010 09:
05:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
9517 <description><p
>My
9518 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_upgrade_testing_from_Lenny_to_Squeeze.html
">testing
9519 of Debian upgrades
</a
> from Lenny to Squeeze continues, and I
've
9520 finally made the upgrade logs available from
9521 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/debian-upgrade-testing/
">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/debian-upgrade-testing/
</a
>.
9522 I am now testing dist-upgrade of Gnome and KDE in a chroot using both
9523 apt and aptitude, and found their differences interesting. This time
9524 I will only focus on their removal plans.
</p
>
9526 <p
>After installing a Gnome desktop and the laptop task, apt-get wants
9527 to remove
72 packages when dist-upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze. The
9528 surprising part is that it want to remove xorg and all
9529 xserver-xorg-video* drivers. Clearly not a good choice, but I am not
9530 sure why. When asking aptitude to do the same, it want to remove
129
9531 packages, but most of them are library packages I suspect are no
9532 longer needed. Both of them want to remove bluetooth packages, which
9533 I do not know. Perhaps these bluetooth packages are obsolete?
</p
>
9535 <p
>For KDE, apt-get want to remove
82 packages, among them kdebase
9536 which seem like a bad idea and xorg the same way as with Gnome. Asking
9537 aptitude for the same, it wants to remove
192 packages, none which are
9538 too surprising.
</p
>
9540 <p
>I guess the removal of xorg during upgrades should be investigated
9541 and avoided, and perhaps others as well. Here are the complete list
9542 of planned removals. The complete logs is available from the URL
9543 above. Note if you want to repeat these tests, that the upgrade test
9544 for kde+apt-get hung in the tasksel setup because of dpkg asking
9545 conffile questions. No idea why. I worked around it by using
9546 '<tt
>echo
>> /proc/
<em
>pidofdpkg
</em
>/fd/
0</tt
>' to tell dpkg to
9549 <p
><b
>apt-get gnome
72</b
>
9550 <br
>bluez-gnome cupsddk-drivers deskbar-applet gnome
9551 gnome-desktop-environment gnome-network-admin gtkhtml3.14
9552 iceweasel-gnome-support libavcodec51 libdatrie0 libgdl-
1-
0
9553 libgnomekbd2 libgnomekbdui2 libmetacity0 libslab0 libxcb-xlib0
9554 nautilus-cd-burner python-gnome2-desktop python-gnome2-extras
9555 serpentine swfdec-mozilla update-manager xorg xserver-xorg
9556 xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
9557 xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
9558 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom
9559 xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark
9560 xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips
9561 xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-cyrix
9562 xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
9563 xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128
9564 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-imstt
9565 xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64
9566 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
9567 xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-nv
9568 xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
9569 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
9570 xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3
9571 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
9572 xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
9573 xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
9574 xserver-xorg-video-tga xserver-xorg-video-trident
9575 xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-v4l
9576 xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vga
9577 xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xulrunner-
1.9
9578 xulrunner-
1.9-gnome-support
</p
>
9580 <p
><b
>aptitude gnome
129</b
>
9582 <br
>bluez-gnome bluez-utils cpp-
4.3 cupsddk-drivers dhcdbd
9583 djvulibre-desktop finger gnome-app-install gnome-mount
9584 gnome-network-admin gnome-spell gnome-vfs-obexftp
9585 gnome-volume-manager gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs gtkhtml3.14 libao2
9586 libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-core5 libavcodec51 libbluetooth2
9587 libcamel1.2-
11 libcdio7 libcucul0 libcupsys2 libcurl3 libdatrie0
9588 libdirectfb-
1.0-
0 libdvdread3 libedataserver1.2-
9 libeel2-
2.20
9589 libeel2-data libepc-
1.0-
1 libepc-ui-
1.0-
1 libfaad0 libgail-common
9590 libgd2-noxpm libgda3-
3 libgda3-common libgdl-
1-
0 libgdl-
1-common
9591 libggz2 libggzcore9 libggzmod4 libgksu1.2-
0 libgksuui1.0-
1 libgmyth0
9592 libgnomecups1.0-
1 libgnomekbd2 libgnomekbdui2 libgnomeprint2.2-
0
9593 libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomeprintui2.2-
0 libgnomeprintui2.2-common
9594 libgnomevfs2-bin libgpod3 libgraphviz4 libgtkhtml2-
0
9595 libgtksourceview-common libgtksourceview1.0-
0 libgucharmap6
9596 libhesiod0 libicu38 libiw29 libkpathsea4 libltdl3 libmagick++
10
9597 libmagick10 libmalaga7 libmetacity0 libmtp7 libmysqlclient15off
9598 libnautilus-burn4 libneon27 libnm-glib0 libnm-util0 libopal-
2.2
9599 libosp5 libparted1.8-
10 libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler3 libpt-
1.10.10
9600 libpt-
1.10.10-plugins-alsa libpt-
1.10.10-plugins-v4l libraw1394-
8
9601 libsensors3 libslab0 libsmbios2 libsoup2.2-
8 libssh2-
1
9602 libsuitesparse-
3.1.0 libswfdec-
0.6-
90 libtalloc1 libtotem-plparser10
9603 libtrackerclient0 libxalan2-java libxalan2-java-gcj libxcb-xlib0
9604 libxerces2-java libxerces2-java-gcj libxklavier12 libxtrap6
9605 libxxf86misc1 libzephyr3 mysql-common nautilus-cd-burner
9606 openoffice.org-writer2latex openssl-blacklist p7zip
9607 python-
4suite-xml python-eggtrayicon python-gnome2-desktop
9608 python-gnome2-extras python-gtkhtml2 python-gtkmozembed
9609 python-numeric python-sexy serpentine svgalibg1 swfdec-gnome
9610 swfdec-mozilla totem-gstreamer update-manager wodim
9611 xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-imstt
9612 xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-v4l xserver-xorg-video-vga
9615 <p
><b
>apt-get kde
82</b
>
9617 <br
>cupsddk-drivers karm kaudiocreator kcoloredit kcontrol kde kde-core
9618 kdeaddons kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-bin-kde3
9619 kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kdeutils khelpcenter kicker
9620 kicker-applets knewsticker kolourpaint konq-plugins konqueror korn
9621 kpersonalizer kscreensaver ksplash libavcodec51 libdatrie0 libkiten1
9622 libxcb-xlib0 quanta superkaramba texlive-base-bin xorg xserver-xorg
9623 xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
9624 xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
9625 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom
9626 xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark
9627 xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips
9628 xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-cyrix
9629 xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
9630 xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128
9631 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-imstt
9632 xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64
9633 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
9634 xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-nv
9635 xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
9636 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
9637 xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3
9638 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
9639 xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
9640 xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
9641 xserver-xorg-video-tga xserver-xorg-video-trident
9642 xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-v4l
9643 xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vga
9644 xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xulrunner-
1.9</p
>
9646 <p
><b
>aptitude kde
192</b
>
9647 <br
>bluez-utils cpp-
4.3 cupsddk-drivers cvs dcoprss dhcdbd
9648 djvulibre-desktop dosfstools eyesapplet fifteenapplet finger gettext
9649 ghostscript-x imlib-base imlib11 indi kandy karm kasteroids
9650 kaudiocreator kbackgammon kbstate kcoloredit kcontrol kcron kdat
9651 kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-theme-window
9652 kdebase-bin-kde3 kdebase-kio-plugins kdeedu-data
9653 kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelirc kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data
9654 kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdenetwork-kfile-plugins
9655 kdepim-kfile-plugins kdepim-kio-plugins kdeprint kdesktop kdessh
9656 kdict kdnssd kdvi kedit keduca kenolaba kfax kfaxview kfouleggs
9657 kghostview khelpcenter khexedit kiconedit kitchensync klatin
9658 klickety kmailcvt kmenuedit kmid kmilo kmoon kmrml kodo kolourpaint
9659 kooka korn kpager kpdf kpercentage kpf kpilot kpoker kpovmodeler
9660 krec kregexpeditor ksayit ksim ksirc ksirtet ksmiletris ksmserver
9661 ksnake ksokoban ksplash ksvg ksysv ktip ktnef kuickshow kverbos
9662 kview kviewshell kvoctrain kwifimanager kwin kwin4 kworldclock
9663 kxsldbg libakode2 libao2 libarts1-akode libarts1-audiofile
9664 libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libavahi-compat-libdnssd1
9665 libavahi-core5 libavc1394-
0 libavcodec51 libbluetooth2
9666 libboost-python1.34
.1 libcucul0 libcurl3 libcvsservice0 libdatrie0
9667 libdirectfb-
1.0-
0 libdjvulibre21 libdvdread3 libfaad0 libfreebob0
9668 libgail-common libgd2-noxpm libgraphviz4 libgsmme1c2a libgtkhtml2-
0
9669 libicu38 libiec61883-
0 libindex0 libiw29 libk3b3 libkcal2b libkcddb1
9670 libkdeedu3 libkdepim1a libkgantt0 libkiten1 libkleopatra1 libkmime2
9671 libkpathsea4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libkscan1
9672 libksieve0 libktnef1 liblockdev1 libltdl3 libmagick10 libmimelib1c2a
9673 libmozjs1d libmpcdec3 libneon27 libnm-util0 libopensync0 libpisock9
9674 libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler3 libraw1394-
8 libsmbios2
9675 libssh2-
1 libsuitesparse-
3.1.0 libtalloc1 libtiff-tools
9676 libxalan2-java libxalan2-java-gcj libxcb-xlib0 libxerces2-java
9677 libxerces2-java-gcj libxtrap6 mpeglib networkstatus
9678 openoffice.org-writer2latex pmount poster psutils quanta quanta-data
9679 superkaramba svgalibg1 tex-common texlive-base texlive-base-bin
9680 texlive-common texlive-doc-base texlive-fonts-recommended
9681 xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-imstt
9682 xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-v4l xserver-xorg-video-vga
9683 xulrunner-
1.9</p
>
9689 <title>Automatic upgrade testing from Lenny to Squeeze
</title>
9690 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_upgrade_testing_from_Lenny_to_Squeeze.html
</link>
9691 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_upgrade_testing_from_Lenny_to_Squeeze.html
</guid>
9692 <pubDate>Fri,
11 Jun
2010 22:
50:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
9693 <description><p
>The last few days I have done some upgrade testing in Debian, to
9694 see if the upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze will go smoothly. A few bugs
9695 have been discovered and reported in the process
9696 (
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
585410">#
585410</a
> in nagios3-cgi,
9697 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
584879">#
584879</a
> already fixed in
9698 enscript and
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
584861">#
584861</a
> in
9699 kdebase-workspace-data), and to get a more regular testing going on, I
9700 am working on a script to automate the test.
</p
>
9702 <p
>The idea is to create a Lenny chroot and use tasksel to install a
9703 Gnome or KDE desktop installation inside the chroot before upgrading
9704 it. To ensure no services are started in the chroot, a policy-rc.d
9705 script is inserted. To make sure tasksel believe it is to install a
9706 desktop on a laptop, the tasksel tests are replaced in the chroot
9707 (only acceptable because this is a throw-away chroot).
</p
>
9709 <p
>A naive upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze using aptitude dist-upgrade
9710 currently always fail because udev refuses to upgrade with the kernel
9711 in Lenny, so to avoid that problem the file /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade
9712 is created. The bug report
9713 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
566000">#
566000</a
> make me suspect
9714 this problem do not trigger in a chroot, but I touch the file anyway
9715 to make sure the upgrade go well. Testing on virtual and real
9716 hardware have failed me because of udev so far, and creating this file
9717 do the trick in such settings anyway. This is a
9718 <a href=
"http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-
26/failed-dist-upgrade-due-to-udev-config_sysfs_deprecated-nonsense-
804130/
">known
9719 issue
</a
> and the current udev behaviour is intended by the udev
9720 maintainer because he lack the resources to rewrite udev to keep
9721 working with old kernels or something like that. I really wish the
9722 udev upstream would keep udev backwards compatible, to avoid such
9723 upgrade problem, but given that they fail to do so, I guess
9724 documenting the way out of this mess is the best option we got for
9725 Debian Squeeze.
</p
>
9727 <p
>Anyway, back to the task at hand, testing upgrades. This test
9728 script, which I call
<tt
>upgrade-test
</tt
> for now, is doing the
9731 <blockquote
><pre
>
9735 if [
"$
1" ] ; then
9744 exec
&lt; /dev/null
9746 mirror=http://ftp.skolelinux.org/debian
9747 tmpdir=chroot-$from-upgrade-$to-$desktop
9749 debootstrap $from $tmpdir $mirror
9750 chroot $tmpdir aptitude update
9751 cat
> $tmpdir/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d
&lt;
&lt;EOF
9755 chmod a+rx $tmpdir/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d
9759 mount -t proc proc $tmpdir/proc
9760 # Make sure proc is unmounted also on failure
9761 trap exit_cleanup EXIT INT
9763 chroot $tmpdir aptitude -y install debconf-utils
9765 # Make sure tasksel autoselection trigger. It need the test scripts
9766 # to return the correct answers.
9767 echo tasksel tasksel/desktop multiselect $desktop | \
9768 chroot $tmpdir debconf-set-selections
9770 # Include the desktop and laptop task
9771 for test in desktop laptop ; do
9772 echo
> $tmpdir/usr/lib/tasksel/tests/$test
&lt;
&lt;EOF
9776 chmod a+rx $tmpdir/usr/lib/tasksel/tests/$test
9779 DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
9780 DEBIAN_PRIORITY=critical
9781 export DEBIAN_FRONTEND DEBIAN_PRIORITY
9782 chroot $tmpdir tasksel --new-install
9784 echo deb $mirror $to main
> $tmpdir/etc/apt/sources.list
9785 chroot $tmpdir aptitude update
9786 touch $tmpdir/etc/udev/kernel-upgrade
9787 chroot $tmpdir aptitude -y dist-upgrade
9789 </pre
></blockquote
>
9791 <p
>I suspect it would be useful to test upgrades with both apt-get and
9792 with aptitude, but I have not had time to look at how they behave
9793 differently so far. I hope to get a cron job running to do the test
9794 regularly and post the result on the web. The Gnome upgrade currently
9795 work, while the KDE upgrade fail because of the bug in
9796 kdebase-workspace-data
</p
>
9798 <p
>I am not quite sure what kind of extract from the huge upgrade logs
9799 (KDE
167 KiB, Gnome
516 KiB) it make sense to include in this blog
9800 post, so I will refrain from trying. I can report that for Gnome,
9801 aptitude report
760 packages upgraded,
448 newly installed,
129 to
9802 remove and
1 not upgraded and
1024MB need to be downloaded while for
9803 KDE the same numbers are
702 packages upgraded,
507 newly installed,
9804 193 to remove and
0 not upgraded and
1117MB need to be downloaded
</p
>
9806 <p
>I am very happy to notice that the Gnome desktop + laptop upgrade
9807 is able to migrate to dependency based boot sequencing and parallel
9808 booting without a hitch. Was unsure if there were still bugs with
9809 packages failing to clean up their obsolete init.d script during
9810 upgrades, and no such problem seem to affect the Gnome desktop+laptop
9816 <title>Skolelinux er laget for sentraldrifting, naturligvis
</title>
9817 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_er_laget_for_sentraldrifting__naturligvis.html
</link>
9818 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_er_laget_for_sentraldrifting__naturligvis.html
</guid>
9819 <pubDate>Wed,
9 Jun
2010 12:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
9820 <description><p
>Det er merkelig hvordan myter om Skolelinux overlever. En slik
9821 myte er at Skolelinux ikke kan sentraldriftes og ha sentralt plasserte
9822 tjenermaskiner. I siste Computerworld Norge er
9823 <a href=
"http://www.idg.no/computerworld/article169432.ece
">IT-sjef
9824 Viggo Billdal i Steinkjer intervjuet
</a
>, og forteller uten
9827 <blockquote
><p
>Vi hadde Skolelinux, men det har vi sluttet med. Vi testet
9828 om det lønte seg med Microsoft eller en åpen plattform. Vi fant ut at
9829 Microsoft egentlig var totalt sett bedre egnet. Det var store
9830 driftskostnader med Skolelinux, blant annet på grunn av
9831 desentraliserte servere. Det var komplisert, så vi gikk vekk fra det
9832 og bruker nå bare Windows.
</p
></blockquote
>
9835 href=
"https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/bruker/
2010-June/
009101.html
">rask
9836 sjekk
</a
> mot den norske brukerlista i Skolelinuxprosjektet forteller
9837 at Steinkjers forsøk foregikk fram til
2004/
2005, og at Røysing skole
9838 i Steinkjer skal ha vært svært fornøyd med Skolelinux men at kommunen
9839 overkjørte skolen og krevde at de gikk over til Windows. Et søk på
9840 nettet sendte meg til
9841 <a href=
"http://www.dn.no/multimedia/archive/
00090/Dagens_it_nr__18_90826a.pdf
">Dagens
9842 IT nr.
18 2005</a
> hvor en kan lese på side
18:
</p
>
9844 <blockquote
><p
>Inge Tømmerås ved Røysing skole i Steinkjer kjører ennå
9845 Microsoft, men forteller at kompetanseutfordringen med Skolelinux ikke
9846 var så stor. Jeg syntes Skolelinux var utrolig lett å drifte uten
9847 forkunnskaper. Men man må jo selvsagt ha tilgang på ekstern kompetanse
9848 til installasjoner og maskinvarefeil, sier Tømmerås.
</p
></blockquote
>
9850 <p
>Som systemarkitekten bak Skolelinux, kan jeg bare riste på hodet
9851 over påstanden om at Skolelinux krever desentraliserte tjenere.
9852 Skolelinux-arkitekturen er laget for sentralisert drift og plassering
9853 av tjenerne lokalt eller sentralt alt etter behov og nettkapasitet.
9854 Den er modellert på nettverks- og tjenerløsningen som brukes på
9855 Universitetet i Tromsø og Oslo, der jeg jobber med utvikling av
9856 driftstjenester. Dette er det heldigvis noen som har fått med seg, og
9857 jeg er glad for å kunne sitere fra en kommentar på den overnevnte
9858 artikkelen. Min venn og gamle kollega Sturle Sunde forteller der:
9861 <p
>I Flora kommune køyrer vi Skulelinux på skular med alt frå
15 til
9862 meir enn
500 elevar. Dei store skulane har eigen tenar, for det er
9863 mest praktisk. Eg, som er driftsansvarleg for heile nettet, ser
9864 sjeldan dei tenarane fysisk, men at dei står der gjer skulane mindre
9865 avhengige av eksterne linjer som er trege eller dyre. Dei minste
9866 skulane har ikkje eigen tenar. Å bruke sentral tenar er heller ikkje
9867 noko problem. Småskulane klarar seg fint med
1 mbit-linje til ein
9868 sentral tenar eller tenaren på ein større skule.
</p
>
9870 <p
>Det beste med Skulelinux er halvtjukke klientar. Dei treng ikkje
9871 harddisk og brukar minimalt med ressursar på tenaren fordi dei køyrer
9872 programma lokalt. Eit klasserom med
30 sju-åtte år gamle maskiner har
9873 mykje meir CPU og RAM totalt enn nokon moderne tenar til under
9874 millionen. Det trengst to kommandoar på den sentrale tenaren for å
9875 oppdatere alle klientane, både tynne og halvtjukke. Vi har ingen
9876 problem med diskar som ryk heller, som var eit problem før fordi
9877 elevane sat og sparka i maskinene. Og dei krev lite bandbreidde i
9878 nettet, so det er fullt mogleg å køyre slike på småskular med trege
9879 linjer mot tenaren på ein større skule.
</p
>
9881 <p
>Flora kommune har nesten
800 Linux-maskiner i sitt skulenett, og
9882 ein person som tek seg av drift av heile nettet, inkludert tenarar,
9883 klientar, operativsystem, programvare, heimekontorløysing og
9884 administrasjon av brukarar.
</p
>
9886 <p
>No skal det seiast at vi ikkje køyrer rein Skulelinux ut av
9887 boksen. Vi har gjort ein del tilpassingar mot noko Novell-greier som
9888 var der frå før, og som har komplisert installasjonen vår. Etter at
9889 oppsettet var gjort har løysinga vore stabil og kravd minimalt med
9893 <p
>Jeg vet at Narvik, Harstad og Oslo er kommuner der Skolelinux
9894 sentraldriftes med sentrale tjenere. Det forteller meg at Steinkjers
9895 IT-sjef neppe bør skylde på Skolelinux-løsningen for sine
5 år gamle
9901 <title>A manual for standards wars...
</title>
9902 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/A_manual_for_standards_wars___.html
</link>
9903 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/A_manual_for_standards_wars___.html
</guid>
9904 <pubDate>Sun,
6 Jun
2010 14:
15:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
9905 <description><p
>Via the
9906 <a href=
"http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/robweir/antic-atom/~
3/QzU4RgoAGMg/weekly-links-
10.html
">blog
9907 of Rob Weir
</a
> I came across the very interesting essay named
9908 <a href=
"http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/shapiro/wars.pdf
">The Art of
9909 Standards Wars
</a
> (PDF
25 pages). I recommend it for everyone
9910 following the standards wars of today.
</p
>
9915 <title>Sitesummary tip: Listing computer hardware models used at site
</title>
9916 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Sitesummary_tip__Listing_computer_hardware_models_used_at_site.html
</link>
9917 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Sitesummary_tip__Listing_computer_hardware_models_used_at_site.html
</guid>
9918 <pubDate>Thu,
3 Jun
2010 12:
05:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
9919 <description><p
>When using sitesummary at a site to track machines, it is possible
9920 to get a list of the machine types in use thanks to the DMI
9921 information extracted from each machine. The script to do so is
9922 included in the sitesummary package, and here is example output from
9923 the Skolelinux build servers:
</p
>
9925 <blockquote
><pre
>
9926 maintainer:~# /usr/lib/sitesummary/hardware-model-summary
9928 Dell Computer Corporation
1
9931 eserver xSeries
345 -[
8670M1X]-
1
9935 </pre
></blockquote
>
9937 <p
>The quality of the report depend on the quality of the DMI tables
9938 provided in each machine. Here there are Intel machines without model
9939 information listed with Intel as vendor and no model, and virtual Xen
9940 machines listed as [no-dmi-info]. One can add -l as a command line
9941 option to list the individual machines.
</p
>
9943 <p
>A larger list is
9944 <a href=
"http://narvikskolen.no/sitesummary/
">available from the the
9945 city of Narvik
</a
>, which uses Skolelinux on all their shools and also
9946 provide the basic sitesummary report publicly. In their report there
9947 are ~
1400 machines. I know they use both Ubuntu and Skolelinux on
9948 their machines, and as sitesummary is available in both distributions,
9949 it is trivial to get all of them to report to the same central
9950 collector.
</p
>
9955 <title>KDM fail at boot with NVidia cards - and no one try to fix it?
</title>
9956 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/KDM_fail_at_boot_with_NVidia_cards___and_no_one_try_to_fix_it_.html
</link>
9957 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/KDM_fail_at_boot_with_NVidia_cards___and_no_one_try_to_fix_it_.html
</guid>
9958 <pubDate>Tue,
1 Jun
2010 17:
05:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
9959 <description><p
>It is strange to watch how a bug in Debian causing KDM to fail to
9960 start at boot when an NVidia video card is used is handled. The
9961 problem seem to be that the nvidia X.org driver uses a long time to
9962 initialize, and this duration is longer than kdm is configured to
9965 <p
>I came across two bugs related to this issue,
9966 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
583312">#
583312</a
> initially filed
9967 against initscripts and passed on to nvidia-glx when it became obvious
9968 that the nvidia drivers were involved, and
9969 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
524751">#
524751</a
> initially filed against
9970 kdm and passed on to src:nvidia-graphics-drivers for unknown reasons.
</p
>
9972 <p
>To me, it seem that no-one is interested in actually solving the
9973 problem nvidia video card owners experience and make sure the Debian
9974 distribution work out of the box for these users. The nvidia driver
9975 maintainers expect kdm to be set up to wait longer, while kdm expect
9976 the nvidia driver maintainers to fix the driver to start faster, and
9977 while they wait for each other I guess the users end up switching to a
9978 distribution that work for them. I have no idea what the solution is,
9979 but I am pretty sure that waiting for each other is not it.
</p
>
9981 <p
>I wonder why we end up handling bugs this way.
</p
>
9986 <title>Parallellized boot seem to hold up well in Debian/testing
</title>
9987 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Parallellized_boot_seem_to_hold_up_well_in_Debian_testing.html
</link>
9988 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Parallellized_boot_seem_to_hold_up_well_in_Debian_testing.html
</guid>
9989 <pubDate>Thu,
27 May
2010 23:
55:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
9990 <description><p
>A few days ago, parallel booting was enabled in Debian/testing.
9991 The feature seem to hold up pretty well, but three fairly serious
9992 issues are known and should be solved:
9996 <li
>The wicd package seen to
9997 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
508289">break NFS mounting
</a
> and
9998 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
581586">network setup
</a
> when
9999 parallel booting is enabled. No idea why, but the wicd maintainer
10000 seem to be on the case.
</li
>
10002 <li
>The nvidia X driver seem to
10003 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
583312">have a race condition
</a
>
10004 triggered more easily when parallel booting is in effect. The
10005 maintainer is on the case.
</li
>
10007 <li
>The sysv-rc package fail to properly enable dependency based boot
10008 sequencing (the shutdown is broken) when old file-rc users
10009 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
575080">try to switch back
</a
> to
10010 sysv-rc. One way to solve it would be for file-rc to create
10011 /etc/init.d/.legacy-bootordering, and another is to try to make
10012 sysv-rc more robust. Will investigate some more and probably upload a
10013 workaround in sysv-rc to help those trying to move from file-rc to
10014 sysv-rc get a working shutdown.
</li
>
10016 </ul
></p
>
10018 <p
>All in all not many surprising issues, and all of them seem
10019 solvable before Squeeze is released. In addition to these there are
10020 some packages with bugs in their dependencies and run level settings,
10021 which I expect will be fixed in a reasonable time span.
</p
>
10023 <p
>If you report any problems with dependencies in init.d scripts to
10024 the BTS, please usertag the report to get it to show up at
10025 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=initscripts-ng-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org
">the
10026 list of usertagged bugs related to this
</a
>.
</p
>
10028 <p
>Update: Correct bug number to file-rc issue.
</p
>
10033 <title>More flexible firmware handling in debian-installer
</title>
10034 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/More_flexible_firmware_handling_in_debian_installer.html
</link>
10035 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/More_flexible_firmware_handling_in_debian_installer.html
</guid>
10036 <pubDate>Sat,
22 May
2010 21:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
10037 <description><p
>After a long break from debian-installer development, I finally
10038 found time today to return to the project. Having to spend less time
10039 working dependency based boot in debian, as it is almost complete now,
10040 definitely helped freeing some time.
</p
>
10042 <p
>A while back, I ran into a problem while working on Debian Edu. We
10043 include some firmware packages on the Debian Edu CDs, those needed to
10044 get disk and network controllers working. Without having these
10045 firmware packages available during installation, it is impossible to
10046 install Debian Edu on the given machine, and because our target group
10047 are non-technical people, asking them to provide firmware packages on
10048 an external medium is a support pain. Initially, I expected it to be
10049 enough to include the firmware packages on the CD to get
10050 debian-installer to find and use them. This proved to be wrong.
10051 Next, I hoped it was enough to symlink the relevant firmware packages
10052 to some useful location on the CD (tried /cdrom/ and
10053 /cdrom/firmware/). This also proved to not work, and at this point I
10054 found time to look at the debian-installer code to figure out what was
10055 going to work.
</p
>
10057 <p
>The firmware loading code is in the hw-detect package, and a closer
10058 look revealed that it would only look for firmware packages outside
10059 the installation media, so the CD was never checked for firmware
10060 packages. It would only check USB sticks, floppies and other
10061 "external
" media devices. Today I changed it to also look in the
10062 /cdrom/firmware/ directory on the mounted CD or DVD, which should
10063 solve the problem I ran into with Debian edu. I also changed it to
10064 look in /firmware/, to make sure the installer also find firmware
10065 provided in the initrd when booting the installer via PXE, to allow us
10066 to provide the same feature in the PXE setup included in Debian
10069 <p
>To make sure firmware deb packages with a license questions are not
10070 activated without asking if the license is accepted, I extended
10071 hw-detect to look for preinst scripts in the firmware packages, and
10072 run these before activating the firmware during installation. The
10073 license question is asked using debconf in the preinst, so this should
10074 solve the issue for the firmware packages I have looked at so far.
</p
>
10076 <p
>If you want to discuss the details of these features, please
10077 contact us on debian-boot@lists.debian.org.
</p
>
10082 <title>Pieces of the roaming laptop puzzle in Debian
</title>
10083 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Pieces_of_the_roaming_laptop_puzzle_in_Debian.html
</link>
10084 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Pieces_of_the_roaming_laptop_puzzle_in_Debian.html
</guid>
10085 <pubDate>Wed,
19 May
2010 19:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
10086 <description><p
>Today, the last piece of the puzzle for roaming laptops in Debian
10087 Edu finally entered the Debian archive. Today, the new
10088 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/libp/libpam-mklocaluser.html
">libpam-mklocaluser
</a
>
10089 package was accepted. Two days ago, two other pieces was accepted
10091 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/pam-python.html
">pam-python
</a
>
10092 package needed by libpam-mklocaluser, and the
10093 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/sssd.html
">sssd
</a
> package
10094 passed NEW on Monday. In addition, the
10095 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/libp/libpam-ccreds.html
">libpam-ccreds
</a
>
10096 package we need is in experimental (version
10-
4) since Saturday, and
10097 hopefully will be moved to unstable soon.
</p
>
10099 <p
>This collection of packages allow for two different setups for
10100 roaming laptops. The traditional setup would be using libpam-ccreds,
10101 nscd and libpam-mklocaluser with LDAP or Kerberos authentication,
10102 which should work out of the box if the configuration changes proposed
10103 for nscd in
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
485282">BTS report
10104 #
485282</a
> is implemented. The alternative setup is to use sssd with
10105 libpam-mklocaluser to connect to LDAP or Kerberos and let sssd take
10106 care of the caching of passwords and group information.
</p
>
10108 <p
>I have so far been unable to get sssd to work with the LDAP server
10109 at the University, but suspect the issue is some SSL/GnuTLS related
10110 problem with the server certificate. I plan to update the Debian
10111 package to version
1.2, which is scheduled for next week, and hope to
10112 find time to make sure the next release will include both the
10113 Debian/Ubuntu specific patches. Upstream is friendly and responsive,
10114 and I am sure we will find a good solution.
</p
>
10116 <p
>The idea is to set up the roaming laptops to authenticate using
10117 LDAP or Kerberos and create a local user with home directory in /home/
10118 when a usre in LDAP logs in via KDM or GDM for the first time, and
10119 cache the password for offline checking, as well as caching group
10120 memberhips and other relevant LDAP information. The
10121 libpam-mklocaluser package was created to make sure the local home
10122 directory is in /home/, instead of /site/server/directory/ which would
10123 be the home directory if pam_mkhomedir was used. To avoid confusion
10124 with support requests and configuration, we do not want local laptops
10125 to have users in a path that is used for the same users home directory
10126 on the home directory servers.
</p
>
10128 <p
>One annoying problem with gdm is that it do not show the PAM
10129 message passed to the user from libpam-mklocaluser when the local user
10130 is created. Instead gdm simply reject the login with some generic
10131 message. The message is shown in kdm, ssh and login, so I guess it is
10132 a bug in gdm. Have not investigated if there is some other message
10133 type that can be used instead to get gdm to also show the message.
</p
>
10135 <p
>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
10136 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p
>
10141 <title>Parallellized boot is now the default in Debian/unstable
</title>
10142 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Parallellized_boot_is_now_the_default_in_Debian_unstable.html
</link>
10143 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Parallellized_boot_is_now_the_default_in_Debian_unstable.html
</guid>
10144 <pubDate>Fri,
14 May
2010 22:
40:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
10145 <description><p
>Since this evening, parallel booting is the default in
10146 Debian/unstable for machines using dependency based boot sequencing.
10147 Apparently the testing of concurrent booting has been wider than
10148 expected, if I am to believe the
10149 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/
2010/
05/msg00122.html
">input
10150 on debian-devel@
</a
>, and I concluded a few days ago to move forward
10151 with the feature this weekend, to give us some time to detect any
10152 remaining problems before Squeeze is frozen. If serious problems are
10153 detected, it is simple to change the default back to sequential boot.
10154 The upload of the new sysvinit package also activate a new upstream
10157 More information about
10158 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot
">dependency
10159 based boot sequencing
</a
> is available from the Debian wiki. It is
10160 currently possible to disable parallel booting when one run into
10161 problems caused by it, by adding this line to /etc/default/rcS:
</p
>
10163 <blockquote
><pre
>
10165 </pre
></blockquote
>
10167 <p
>If you report any problems with dependencies in init.d scripts to
10168 the BTS, please usertag the report to get it to show up at
10169 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=initscripts-ng-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org
">the
10170 list of usertagged bugs related to this
</a
>.
</p
>
10175 <title>Sitesummary tip: Listing MAC address of all clients
</title>
10176 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Sitesummary_tip__Listing_MAC_address_of_all_clients.html
</link>
10177 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Sitesummary_tip__Listing_MAC_address_of_all_clients.html
</guid>
10178 <pubDate>Fri,
14 May
2010 21:
10:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
10179 <description><p
>In the recent Debian Edu versions, the
10180 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/SiteSummary
">sitesummary
10181 system
</a
> is used to keep track of the machines in the school
10182 network. Each machine will automatically report its status to the
10183 central server after boot and once per night. The network setup is
10184 also reported, and using this information it is possible to get the
10185 MAC address of all network interfaces in the machines. This is useful
10186 to update the DHCP configuration.
</p
>
10188 <p
>To give some idea how to use sitesummary, here is a one-liner to
10189 ist all MAC addresses of all machines reporting to sitesummary. Run
10190 this on the collector host:
</p
>
10192 <blockquote
><pre
>
10193 perl -MSiteSummary -e
'for_all_hosts(sub { print join(
" ", get_macaddresses(shift)),
"\n
"; });
'
10194 </pre
></blockquote
>
10196 <p
>This will list all MAC addresses assosiated with all machine, one
10197 line per machine and with space between the MAC addresses.
</p
>
10199 <p
>To allow system administrators easier job at adding static DHCP
10200 addresses for hosts, it would be possible to extend this to fetch
10201 machine information from sitesummary and update the DHCP and DNS
10202 tables in LDAP using this information. Such tool is unfortunately not
10203 written yet.
</p
>
10208 <title>Forcing new users to change their password on first login
</title>
10209 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Forcing_new_users_to_change_their_password_on_first_login.html
</link>
10210 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Forcing_new_users_to_change_their_password_on_first_login.html
</guid>
10211 <pubDate>Sun,
2 May
2010 13:
47:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
10212 <description><p
>One interesting feature in Active Directory, is the ability to
10213 create a new user with an expired password, and thus force the user to
10214 change the password on the first login attempt.
</p
>
10216 <p
>I
'm not quite sure how to do that with the LDAP setup in Debian
10217 Edu, but did some initial testing with a local account. The account
10218 and password aging information is available in /etc/shadow, but
10219 unfortunately, it is not possible to specify an expiration time for
10220 passwords, only a maximum age for passwords.
</p
>
10222 <p
>A freshly created account (using adduser test) will have these
10223 settings in /etc/shadow:
</p
>
10225 <blockquote
><pre
>
10226 root@tjener:~# chage -l test
10227 Last password change : May
02,
2010
10228 Password expires : never
10229 Password inactive : never
10230 Account expires : never
10231 Minimum number of days between password change :
0
10232 Maximum number of days between password change :
99999
10233 Number of days of warning before password expires :
7
10235 </pre
></blockquote
>
10237 <p
>The only way I could come up with to create a user with an expired
10238 account, is to change the date of the last password change to the
10239 lowest value possible (January
1th
1970), and the maximum password age
10240 to the difference in days between that date and today. To make it
10241 simple, I went for
30 years (
30 *
365 =
10950) and January
2th (to
10242 avoid testing if
0 is a valid value).
</p
>
10244 <p
>After using these commands to set it up, it seem to work as
10245 intended:
</p
>
10247 <blockquote
><pre
>
10248 root@tjener:~# chage -d
1 test; chage -M
10950 test
10249 root@tjener:~# chage -l test
10250 Last password change : Jan
02,
1970
10251 Password expires : never
10252 Password inactive : never
10253 Account expires : never
10254 Minimum number of days between password change :
0
10255 Maximum number of days between password change :
10950
10256 Number of days of warning before password expires :
7
10258 </pre
></blockquote
>
10260 <p
>So far I have tested this with ssh and console, and kdm (in
10261 Squeeze) login, and all ask for a new password before login in the
10262 user (with ssh, I was thrown out and had to log in again).
</p
>
10264 <p
>Perhaps we should set up something similar for Debian Edu, to make
10265 sure only the user itself have the account password?
</p
>
10267 <p
>If you want to comment on or help out with implementing this for
10268 Debian Edu, please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p
>
10270 <p
>Update
2010-
05-
02 17:
20: Paul Tötterman tells me on IRC that the
10271 shadow(
8) page in Debian/testing now state that setting the date of
10272 last password change to zero (
0) will force the password to be changed
10273 on the first login. This was not mentioned in the manual in Lenny, so
10274 I did not notice this in my initial testing. I have tested it on
10275 Squeeze, and
'<tt
>chage -d
0 username
</tt
>' do work there. I have not
10276 tested it on Lenny yet.
</p
>
10278 <p
>Update
2010-
05-
02-
19:
05: Jim Paris tells me via email that an
10279 equivalent command to expire a password is
'<tt
>passwd -e
10280 username
</tt
>', which insert zero into the date of the last password
10286 <title>Thoughts on roaming laptop setup for Debian Edu
</title>
10287 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Thoughts_on_roaming_laptop_setup_for_Debian_Edu.html
</link>
10288 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Thoughts_on_roaming_laptop_setup_for_Debian_Edu.html
</guid>
10289 <pubDate>Wed,
28 Apr
2010 20:
40:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
10290 <description><p
>For some years now, I have wondered how we should handle laptops in
10291 Debian Edu. The Debian Edu infrastructure is mostly designed to
10292 handle stationary computers, and less suited for computers that come
10295 <p
>Now I finally believe I have an sensible idea on how to adjust
10296 Debian Edu for laptops, by introducing a new profile for them, for
10297 example called Roaming Workstations. Here are my thought on this.
10298 The setup would consist of the following:
</p
>
10302 <li
>During installation, the user name of the owner / primary user of
10303 the laptop is requested and a local home directory is set up for
10304 the user, with uid and gid information fetched from the LDAP
10305 server. This allow the user to work also when offline. The
10306 central home directory can be available in a subdirectory on
10307 request, for example mounted via CIFS. It could be mounted
10308 automatically when a user log in while on the Debian Edu network,
10309 and unmounted when the machine is taken away (network down,
10310 hibernate, etc), it can be set up to do automatic mounting on
10311 request (using autofs), or perhaps some GUI button on the desktop
10312 can be used to access it when needed. Perhaps it is enough to use
10313 the fish protocol in KDE?
</li
>
10315 <li
>Password checking is set up to use LDAP or Kerberos
10316 authentication when the machine is on the Debian Edu network, and
10317 to cache the password for offline checking when the machine unable
10318 to reach the LDAP or Kerberos server. This can be done using
10319 <a href=
"http://www.padl.com/OSS/pam_ccreds.html
">libpam-ccreds
</a
>
10320 or the Fedora developed
10321 <a href=
"https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SSSD
">System
10322 Security Services Daemon
</a
> packages.
</li
>
10324 <li
>File synchronisation with the central home directory is set up
10325 using a shared directory in both the local and the central home
10326 directory, using unison.
</li
>
10328 <li
>Printing should be set up to print to all printers broadcasting
10329 their existence on the local network, and should then work out of
10330 the box with CUPS. For sites needing accurate printer quotas, some
10331 system with Kerberos authentication or printing via ssh could be
10332 implemented.
</li
>
10334 <li
>For users that should have local root access to their laptop,
10335 sudo should be used to allow this to the local user.
</li
>
10337 <li
>It would be nice if user and group information from LDAP is
10338 cached on the client, but given that there are entries for the
10339 local user and primary group in /etc/, it should not be needed.
</li
>
10343 <p
>I believe all the pieces to implement this are in Debian/testing at
10344 the moment. If we work quickly, we should be able to get this ready
10345 in time for the Squeeze release to freeze. Some of the pieces need
10346 tweaking, like libpam-ccreds should get support for pam-auth-update
10347 (
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
566718">#
566718</a
>) and nslcd (or
10348 perhaps debian-edu-config) should get some integration code to stop
10349 its daemon when the LDAP server is unavailable to avoid long timeouts
10350 when disconnected from the net. If we get Kerberos enabled, we need
10351 to make sure we avoid long timeouts there too.
</p
>
10353 <p
>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
10354 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p
>
10359 <title>Kerberos for Debian Edu/Squeeze?
</title>
10360 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Kerberos_for_Debian_Edu_Squeeze_.html
</link>
10361 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Kerberos_for_Debian_Edu_Squeeze_.html
</guid>
10362 <pubDate>Wed,
14 Apr
2010 17:
20:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
10363 <description><p
><a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/
20100413-kerberos/
">Yesterdays
10364 NUUG presentation
</a
> about Kerberos was inspiring, and reminded me
10365 about the need to start using Kerberos in Skolelinux. Setting up a
10366 Kerberos server seem to be straight forward, and if we get this in
10367 place a long time before the Squeeze version of Debian freezes, we
10368 have a chance to migrate Skolelinux away from NFSv3 for the home
10369 directories, and over to an architecture where the infrastructure do
10370 not have to trust IP addresses and machines, and instead can trust
10371 users and cryptographic keys instead.
</p
>
10373 <p
>A challenge will be integration and administration. Is there a
10374 Kerberos implementation for Debian where one can control the
10375 administration access in Kerberos using LDAP groups? With it, the
10376 school administration will have to maintain access control using flat
10377 files on the main server, which give a huge potential for errors.
</p
>
10379 <p
>A related question I would like to know is how well Kerberos and
10380 pam-ccreds (offline password check) work together. Anyone know?
</p
>
10382 <p
>Next step will be to use Kerberos for access control in Lwat and
10383 Nagios. I have no idea how much work that will be to implement. We
10384 would also need to document how to integrate with Windows AD, as such
10385 shared network will require two Kerberos realms that need to cooperate
10386 to work properly.
</p
>
10388 <p
>I believe a good start would be to start using Kerberos on the
10389 skolelinux.no machines, and this way get ourselves experience with
10390 configuration and integration. A natural starting point would be
10391 setting up ldap.skolelinux.no as the Kerberos server, and migrate the
10392 rest of the machines from PAM via LDAP to PAM via Kerberos one at the
10395 <p
>If you would like to contribute to get this working in Skolelinux,
10396 I recommend you to see the video recording from yesterdays NUUG
10397 presentation, and start using Kerberos at home. The video show show
10398 up in a few days.
</p
>
10403 <title>After
6 years of waiting, the Xreset.d feature is implemented
</title>
10404 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/After_6_years_of_waiting__the_Xreset_d_feature_is_implemented.html
</link>
10405 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/After_6_years_of_waiting__the_Xreset_d_feature_is_implemented.html
</guid>
10406 <pubDate>Sat,
6 Mar
2010 18:
15:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
10407 <description><p
>6 years ago, as part of the Debian Edu development I am involved
10408 in, I asked for a hook in the kdm and gdm setup to run scripts as root
10409 when the user log out. A bug was submitted against the xfree86-common
10410 package in
2004 (
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/
230422">#
230422</a
>),
10411 and revisited every time Debian Edu was working on a new release.
10412 Today, this finally paid off.
</p
>
10414 <p
>The framework for this feature was today commited to the git
10415 repositry for the xorg package, and the git repository for xdm has
10416 been updated to use this framework. Next on my agenda is to make sure
10417 kdm and gdm also add code to use this framework.
</p
>
10419 <p
>In Debian Edu, we want to ability to run commands as root when the
10420 user log out, to get rid of runaway processes and do general cleanup
10421 after a user. With this framework in place, we finally can do that in
10422 a generic way that work with all display managers using this
10423 framework. My goal is to get all display managers in Debian use it,
10424 similar to how they use the Xsession.d framework today.
<p
>
10429 <title>Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Lenny released, work continues
</title>
10430 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Lenny_released__work_continues.html
</link>
10431 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Lenny_released__work_continues.html
</guid>
10432 <pubDate>Thu,
11 Feb
2010 17:
15:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
10433 <description><p
>On Tuesday, the Debian/Lenny based version of
10434 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
> was finally
10435 shipped. This was a major leap forward for the project, and I am very
10436 pleased that we finally got the release wrapped up. Work on the first
10437 point release starts imediately, as we plan to get that one out a
10438 month after the major release, to include all fixes for bugs we found
10439 and fixed too late in the release process to include last Tuesday.
</p
>
10441 <p
>Perhaps it even is time for some partying?
</p
>
10443 <p
>After this first point release, my plan is to focus again on the
10444 next major release, based on Squeeze. We will try to get as many of
10445 the fixes we need into the official Debian packages before the freeze,
10446 and have just a few weeks or months to make it happen.
</p
>
10451 <title>Automatic Munin and Nagios configuration
</title>
10452 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_Munin_and_Nagios_configuration.html
</link>
10453 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_Munin_and_Nagios_configuration.html
</guid>
10454 <pubDate>Wed,
27 Jan
2010 15:
15:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
10455 <description><p
>One of the new features in the next Debian/Lenny based release of
10456 Debian Edu/Skolelinux, which is scheduled for release in the next few
10457 days, is automatic configuration of the service monitoring system
10458 Nagios. The previous release had automatic configuration of trend
10459 analysis using Munin, and this Lenny based release take that a step
10462 <p
>When installing a Debian Edu Main-server, it is automatically
10463 configured as a Munin and Nagios server. In addition, it is
10464 configured to be a server for the
10465 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/SiteSummary
">SiteSummary
10466 system
</a
> I have written for use in Debian Edu. The SiteSummary
10467 system is inspired by a system used by the University of Oslo where I
10468 work. In short, the system provide a centralised collector of
10469 information about the computers on the network, and a client on each
10470 computer submitting information to this collector. This allow for
10471 automatic information on which packages are installed on each machine,
10472 which kernel the machines are using, what kind of configuration the
10473 packages got etc. This also allow us to automatically generate Munin
10474 and Nagios configuration.
</p
>
10476 <p
>All computers reporting to the sitesummary collector with the
10477 munin-node package installed is automatically enabled as a Munin
10478 client and graphs from the statistics collected from that machine show
10479 up automatically on http://www/munin/ on the Main-server.
</p
>
10481 <p
>All non-laptop computers reporting to the sitesummary collector are
10482 automatically monitored for network presence (ping and any network
10483 services detected). In addition, all computers (also laptops) with
10484 the nagios-nrpe-server package installed and configured the way
10485 sitesummary would configure it, are monitored for full disks, software
10486 raid status, swap free and other checks that need to run locally on
10487 the machine.
</p
>
10489 <p
>The result is that the administrator on a school using Debian Edu
10490 based on Lenny will be able to check the health of his installation
10491 with one look at the Nagios settings, without having to spend any time
10492 keeping the Nagios configuration up-to-date.
</p
>
10494 <p
>The only configuration one need to do to get Nagios up and running
10495 is to set the password used to get access via HTTP. The system
10496 administrator need to run
"<tt
>htpasswd /etc/nagios3/htpasswd.users
10497 nagiosadmin
</tt
>" to create a nagiosadmin user and set a password for
10498 it to be able to log into the Nagios web pages. After that,
10499 everything is taken care of.
</p
>
10504 <title>Opphavet til Skolelinux-prosjektet
</title>
10505 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Opphavet_til_Skolelinux_prosjektet.html
</link>
10506 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Opphavet_til_Skolelinux_prosjektet.html
</guid>
10507 <pubDate>Thu,
17 Dec
2009 10:
50:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
10508 <description><p
>De færreste er klar over at Skolelinux-prosjektet kom som et resultat
10509 av en avgjørelse på årsmøtet i
10510 <a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/
">NUUG
</a
> i
2000-
06-
29, der Håkon Wium
10511 Lie, da varamedlem i styret, tok på seg oppdraget om å starte et
10512 initiativ kalt
"Teach the Teacher
", som skulle være et initiativ for
10513 å få fri programvare og unix-lignende operativsystemer inn i Skolen.
10514 Tanken var at en måtte starte med lærerne for at ungene skulle få
10515 mulighet til å møte en bedre IT-hverdag. Jeg var tilstede på
10516 møtet, og hadde sans for ideen, men intet skjedde. På vårparten
10517 2001 ble det arrangert en demonstrasjon i anledning at First Tuesday
10518 hadde invitert Microsoft til et møte for å fortelle om fremtidens
10519 Internet. Dette provoserte endel av oss, og EFN og NUUG tok initiativ
10521 <a href=
"http://www.digi.no/
60982/first-tuesday-mote-med-microsoft-protest
">en
10522 demonstrasjon utenfor lokalene
2001-
05-
21</a
>. Blant de som sto bak
10523 demonstrasjonen var Vidar Bakke fra NUUG og Håkon W. Lie fra EFN.
10524 Etter demonstrasjonen arrangerte Håkon en fest hjemme hos seg der alle
10525 som hadde vært aktive i demonstrasjonsplanlegging og gjennomføringen
10526 deltok. Før festen var jeg blitt lei av å vente på at Håkon skulle ta
10527 initiativ til
"Teach the Teacher
", og for å forsøke å få litt fremgang
10528 besteme jeg meg for å benytte anledningen hos Håkon til å snakke om
10529 behovet for å hjelpe skolene i gang med bedre datasystemer bestående
10530 av fri programvare og unix-lignende operativsystemer. Flere var
10531 interessert, og Knut Yrvin tenkte på ideen. Han
10532 <a href=
"http://developer.skolelinux.no/brev/
2001-
06-
28-invitasjon-skolelinux.txt
">ropte
10533 sammen
</a
> til et stiftelsesmøte i prosjektet i sin arbeidsgivers
10534 Objectwares lokaler ved Ullevål stadion
2001-
07-
02, og jeg ble med.
10535 Resten er historie. :)
</p
>
10540 <title>Endelig operativt webbasert medlemsregister for Fri programvare i skolen
</title>
10541 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Endelig_operativt_webbasert_medlemsregister_for_Fri_programvare_i_skolen.html
</link>
10542 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Endelig_operativt_webbasert_medlemsregister_for_Fri_programvare_i_skolen.html
</guid>
10543 <pubDate>Mon,
2 Nov
2009 22:
40:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
10544 <description><p
>Under helgens utviklersamling i
10545 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.no/
">Skolelinux
</a
> fikk jeg endelig
10546 satt meg ned sammen med Ronny Aasen i styret for å få et webbasert
10547 medlemsregister tilbake på plass for foreningen som passer på
10548 skolelinuxprosjektet. Etter flere års knot og problemer, er nå
10549 memberdb satt opp og klart til bruk. Import av det gamle
10550 medlemsregisteret har vist seg vanskelig, så alle medlemmer bes om å
10551 registrere seg på nytt. Hvis du støtter FRiSKs formål så er du
10552 hjertelig velkommen til
10553 <a href=
"http://medlem.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">å melde deg
10554 inn
</a
>. Formålet lyder:
</p
>
10556 <blockquote
>Linux i skolen skal tilrettelegge for og informere om bruk
10557 av fri programvare, i henhold til Debian Free Software Guidelines av
10558 2002-
02-
03, i den norske skolen, slik som f.eks. Linux og
10559 GNU.
</blockquote
>
10564 <title>Returning from Skolelinux developer gathering
</title>
10565 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Returning_from_Skolelinux_developer_gathering.html
</link>
10566 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Returning_from_Skolelinux_developer_gathering.html
</guid>
10567 <pubDate>Sun,
29 Mar
2009 21:
00:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
10568 <description><p
>I
'm sitting on the train going home from this weekends Debian
10569 Edu/Skolelinux development gathering. I got a bit done tuning the
10570 desktop, and looked into the dynamic service location protocol
10571 implementation avahi. It look like it could be useful for us. Almost
10572 30 people participated, and I believe it was a great environment to
10573 get to know the Skolelinux system. Walter Bender, involved in the
10574 development of the Sugar educational platform, presented his stuff and
10575 also helped me improve my OLPC installation. He also showed me that
10576 his Turtle Art application can be used in standalone mode, and we
10577 agreed that I would help getting it packaged for Debian. As a
10578 standalone application it would be great for Debian Edu. We also
10579 tried to get the video conferencing working with two OLPCs, but that
10580 proved to be too hard for us. The application seem to need more work
10581 before it is ready for me. I look forward to getting home and relax
10587 <title>Time for new LDAP schemas replacing RFC
2307?
</title>
10588 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Time_for_new__LDAP_schemas_replacing_RFC_2307_.html
</link>
10589 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Time_for_new__LDAP_schemas_replacing_RFC_2307_.html
</guid>
10590 <pubDate>Sun,
29 Mar
2009 20:
30:
00 +
0200</pubDate>
10591 <description><p
>The state of standardized LDAP schemas on Linux is far from
10592 optimal. There is RFC
2307 documenting one way to store NIS maps in
10593 LDAP, and a modified version of this normally called RFC
2307bis, with
10594 some modifications to be compatible with Active Directory. The RFC
10595 specification handle the content of a lot of system databases, but do
10596 not handle DNS zones and DHCP configuration.
</p
>
10598 <p
>In
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu/Skolelinux
</a
>,
10599 we would like to store information about users, SMB clients/hosts,
10600 filegroups, netgroups (users and hosts), DHCP and DNS configuration,
10601 and LTSP configuration in LDAP. These objects have a lot in common,
10602 but with the current LDAP schemas it is not possible to have one
10603 object per entity. For example, one need to have at least three LDAP
10604 objects for a given computer, one with the SMB related stuff, one with
10605 DNS information and another with DHCP information. The schemas
10606 provided for DNS and DHCP are impossible to combine into one LDAP
10607 object. In addition, it is impossible to implement quick queries for
10608 netgroup membership, because of the way NIS triples are implemented.
10609 It just do not scale. I believe it is time for a few RFC
10610 specifications to cleam up this mess.
</p
>
10612 <p
>I would like to have one LDAP object representing each computer in
10613 the network, and this object can then keep the SMB (ie host key), DHCP
10614 (mac address/name) and DNS (name/IP address) settings in one place.
10615 It need to be efficently stored to make sure it scale well.
</p
>
10617 <p
>I would also like to have a quick way to map from a user or
10618 computer and to the net group this user or computer is a member.
</p
>
10620 <p
>Active Directory have done a better job than unix heads like myself
10621 in this regard, and the unix side need to catch up. Time to start a
10622 new IETF work group?
</p
>
10627 <title>Endelig er Debian Lenny gitt ut
</title>
10628 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Endelig_er_Debian_Lenny_gitt_ut.html
</link>
10629 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Endelig_er_Debian_Lenny_gitt_ut.html
</guid>
10630 <pubDate>Sun,
15 Feb
2009 11:
50:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
10631 <description><p
>Endelig er
<a href=
"http://www.debian.org/
">Debian
</a
>
10632 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/
2009/
20090214">Lenny
</a
> gitt ut.
10633 Et langt steg videre for Debian-prosjektet, og en rekke nye
10634 programpakker blir nå tilgjengelig for de av oss som bruker den
10635 stabile utgaven av Debian. Neste steg er nå å få
10636 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux
</a
> /
10637 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/
">Debian Edu
</a
> ferdig
10638 oppdatert for den nye utgaven, slik at en oppdatert versjon kan
10639 slippes løs på skolene. Takk til alle debian-utviklerne som har
10640 gjort dette mulig. Endelig er f.eks. fungerende avhengighetsstyrt
10641 bootsekvens tilgjengelig i stabil utgave, vha pakken
10642 <tt
>insserv
</tt
>.
</p
>
10647 <title>Endelig norsk stavekontroll med støtte for ord med bindestrek
</title>
10648 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Endelig_norsk_stavekontroll_med_st_tte_for_ord_med_bindestrek.html
</link>
10649 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Endelig_norsk_stavekontroll_med_st_tte_for_ord_med_bindestrek.html
</guid>
10650 <pubDate>Fri,
26 Dec
2008 11:
00:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
10651 <description><p
>Etter flere års mislykkede forsøk på å skrive om byggesystemet for
10652 <a href=
"http://no.speling.org/
">den norske stavekontrollen for bokmål
10653 og nynorsk
</a
> til å ikke bruke bindestrek som ordskillemarkør, lyktes jeg
10654 endelig første juledag. Bruken av bindestrek som ordskillemarkør har
10655 gjort det umulig å få med ord med bindestrek i
10656 stavekontrolldatagrunnlaget, slik at ord som e-post og CD-spiller ikke
10657 kunne godtas av stavekontrollen. Hadde litt tid til overs å bruke på
10658 stavekontrollen, og satte meg ned med to kopier av byggsystemet og en
10659 liten testdatafil, og byttet ut - med = på utvalgte steder i
10660 byggsystemet og datafilen helt til jeg fikk samme resultat med det
10661 gamle og det nye byggsystemet. Dette tror jeg var forsøk
4, der de
10662 foregående har feilet uten at jeg klarte å forstå hvorfor. Det sier
10663 kanskje litt om kompleksiteten i det originale byggsystemet som Rune
10664 Kleveland laget i sin tid.
</p
>
10666 <p
>Etter å ha endret byggsystemet, var neste steg å importere ordene
10667 med bindestrek. Vi har en rekke slike i databasene for
10668 <a href=
"http://tyge.sslug.dk/~korsvoll/nb.speling.org/htdocs/
">bokmål
</a
>
10670 <a href=
"http://tyge.sslug.dk/~korsvoll/nn.speling.org/htdocs/
">nynorsk
</a
>
10671 for korrektur av datagrunnlaget for stavekontrollen, og etter importen
10672 skulle nå
10350 nye ord bli godkjent som korrekt stavede ord av
10673 stavekontrollen.
</p
>
10678 <title>Devcamp brought us closer to the Lenny based Debian Edu release
</title>
10679 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Devcamp_brought_us_closer_to_the_Lenny_based_Debian_Edu_release.html
</link>
10680 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Devcamp_brought_us_closer_to_the_Lenny_based_Debian_Edu_release.html
</guid>
10681 <pubDate>Sun,
7 Dec
2008 12:
00:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
10682 <description><p
>This weekend we had a small developer gathering for Debian Edu in
10683 Oslo. Most of Saturday was used for the general assemly for the
10684 member organization, but the rest of the weekend I used to tune the
10685 LTSP installation. LTSP now work out of the box on the
10-network.
10686 Acer Aspire One proved to be a very nice thin client, with both
10687 screen, mouse and keybard in a small box. Was working on getting the
10688 diskless workstation setup configured out of the box, but did not
10689 finish it before the weekend was up.
</p
>
10691 <p
>Did not find time to look at the
4 VGA cards in one box we got from
10692 the Brazilian group, so that will have to wait for the next
10693 development gathering. Would love to have the Debian Edu installer
10694 automatically detect and configure a multiseat setup when it find one
10695 of these cards.
</p
>
10700 <title>The sorry state of multimedia browser plugins in Debian
</title>
10701 <link>http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/The_sorry_state_of_multimedia_browser_plugins_in_Debian.html
</link>
10702 <guid isPermaLink=
"true">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/The_sorry_state_of_multimedia_browser_plugins_in_Debian.html
</guid>
10703 <pubDate>Tue,
25 Nov
2008 00:
10:
00 +
0100</pubDate>
10704 <description><p
>Recently I have spent some time evaluating the multimedia browser
10705 plugins available in Debian Lenny, to see which one we should use by
10706 default in Debian Edu. We need an embedded video playing plugin with
10707 control buttons to pause or stop the video, and capable of streaming
10708 all the multimedia content available on the web. The test results and
10709 notes are available on
10710 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/BrowserMultimedia
">the
10711 Debian wiki
</a
>. I was surprised how few of the plugins are able to
10712 fill this need. My personal video player favorite, VLC, has a really
10713 bad plugin which fail on a lot of the test pages. A lot of the MIME
10714 types I would expect to work with any free software player (like
10715 video/ogg), just do not work. And simple formats like the
10716 audio/x-mplegurl format (m3u playlists), just isn
't supported by the
10717 totem and vlc plugins. I hope the situation will improve soon. No
10718 wonder sites use the proprietary Adobe flash to play video.
</p
>
10720 <p
>For Lenny, we seem to end up with the mplayer plugin. It seem to
10721 be the only one fitting our needs. :/
</p
>