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15 <a href=
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23 <div class=
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24 <div class=
"date">25th December
2010</div>
25 <div class=
"body"><p><a href=
"http://www.digistan.org/open-standard:definition">The
26 Digistan definition
</a> of a free and open standard reads like this:
</p>
30 <p>The Digital Standards Organization defines free and open standard
35 <li>A free and open standard is immune to vendor capture at all stages
36 in its life-cycle. Immunity from vendor capture makes it possible to
37 freely use, improve upon, trust, and extend a standard over time.
</li>
39 <li>The standard is adopted and will be maintained by a not-for-profit
40 organisation, and its ongoing development occurs on the basis of an
41 open decision-making procedure available to all interested
44 <li>The standard has been published and the standard specification
45 document is available freely. It must be permissible to all to copy,
46 distribute, and use it freely.
</li>
48 <li>The patents possibly present on (parts of) the standard are made
49 irrevocably available on a royalty-free basis.
</li>
51 <li>There are no constraints on the re-use of the standard.
</li>
55 <p>The economic outcome of a free and open standard, which can be
56 measured, is that it enables perfect competition between suppliers of
57 products based on the standard.
</p>
60 <p>For a while now I have tried to figure out of Ogg Theora is a free
61 and open standard according to this definition. Here is a short
62 writeup of what I have been able to gather so far. I brought up the
63 topic on the Xiph advocacy mailing list
64 <a href=
"http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/advocacy/2009-July/001632.html">in
65 July
2009</a>, for those that want to see some background information.
66 According to Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves and Monty Montgomery on that list
67 the Ogg Theora specification fulfils the Digistan definition.
</p>
69 <p><strong>Free from vendor capture?
</strong></p>
71 <p>As far as I can see, there is no single vendor that can control the
72 Ogg Theora specification. It can be argued that the
73 <a href=
"http://www.xiph.org/">Xiph foundation
</A> is such vendor, but
74 given that it is a non-profit foundation with the expressed goal
75 making free and open protocols and standards available, it is not
76 obvious that this is a real risk. One issue with the Xiph
77 foundation is that its inner working (as in board member list, or who
78 control the foundation) are not easily available on the web. I've
79 been unable to find out who is in the foundation board, and have not
80 seen any accounting information documenting how money is handled nor
81 where is is spent in the foundation. It is thus not obvious for an
82 external observer who control The Xiph foundation, and for all I know
83 it is possible for a single vendor to take control over the
84 specification. But it seem unlikely.
</p>
86 <p><strong>Maintained by open not-for-profit organisation?
</strong></p>
88 <p>Assuming that the Xiph foundation is the organisation its web pages
89 claim it to be, this point is fulfilled. If Xiph foundation is
90 controlled by a single vendor, it isn't, but I have not found any
91 documentation indicating this.
</p>
94 <a href=
"http://media.hiof.no/diverse/fad/rapport_4.pdf">a report
</a>
95 prepared by Audun Vaaler og Børre Ludvigsen for the Norwegian
96 government, the Xiph foundation is a non-commercial organisation and
97 the development process is open, transparent and non-Discrimatory.
98 Until proven otherwise, I believe it make most sense to believe the
99 report is correct.
</p>
101 <p><strong>Specification freely available?
</strong></p>
103 <p>The specification for the
<a href=
"http://www.xiph.org/ogg/doc/">Ogg
104 container format
</a> and both the
105 <a href=
"http://www.xiph.org/vorbis/doc/">Vorbis
</a> and
106 <a href=
"http://theora.org/doc/">Theora
</a> codeces are available on
107 the web. This are the terms in the Vorbis and Theora specification:
111 Anyone may freely use and distribute the Ogg and [Vorbis/Theora]
112 specifications, whether in private, public, or corporate
113 capacity. However, the Xiph.Org Foundation and the Ogg project reserve
114 the right to set the Ogg [Vorbis/Theora] specification and certify
115 specification compliance.
119 <p>The Ogg container format is specified in IETF
120 <a href=
"http://www.xiph.org/ogg/doc/rfc3533.txt">RFC
3533</a>, and
125 <p>This document and translations of it may be copied and furnished to
126 others, and derivative works that comment on or otherwise explain it
127 or assist in its implementation may be prepared, copied, published and
128 distributed, in whole or in part, without restriction of any kind,
129 provided that the above copyright notice and this paragraph are
130 included on all such copies and derivative works. However, this
131 document itself may not be modified in any way, such as by removing
132 the copyright notice or references to the Internet Society or other
133 Internet organizations, except as needed for the purpose of developing
134 Internet standards in which case the procedures for copyrights defined
135 in the Internet Standards process must be followed, or as required to
136 translate it into languages other than English.
</p>
138 <p>The limited permissions granted above are perpetual and will not be
139 revoked by the Internet Society or its successors or assigns.
</p>
142 <p>All these terms seem to allow unlimited distribution and use, an
143 this term seem to be fulfilled. There might be a problem with the
144 missing permission to distribute modified versions of the text, and
145 thus reuse it in other specifications. Not quite sure if that is a
146 requirement for the Digistan definition.
</p>
148 <p><strong>Royalty-free?
</strong></p>
150 <p>There are no known patent claims requiring royalties for the Ogg
152 <a href=
"http://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=65782">MPEG-LA
</a>
154 <a href=
"http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/04/30/237238/Steve-Jobs-Hints-At-Theora-Lawsuit">Steve
155 Jobs
</a> in Apple claim to know about some patent claims (submarine
156 patents) against the Theora format, but no-one else seem to believe
157 them. Both Opera Software and the Mozilla Foundation have looked into
158 this and decided to implement Ogg Theora support in their browsers
159 without paying any royalties. For now the claims from MPEG-LA and
160 Steve Jobs seem more like FUD to scare people to use the H
.264 codec
161 than any real problem with Ogg Theora.
</p>
163 <p><strong>No constraints on re-use?
</strong></p>
165 <p>I am not aware of any constraints on re-use.
</p>
167 <p><strong>Conclusion
</strong></p>
169 <p>3 of
5 requirements seem obviously fulfilled, and the remaining
2
170 depend on the governing structure of the Xiph foundation. Given the
171 background report used by the Norwegian government, I believe it is
172 safe to assume the last two requirements are fulfilled too, but it
173 would be nice if the Xiph foundation web site made it easier to verify
176 <p>It would be nice to see other analysis of other specifications to
177 see if they are free and open standards.
</p>
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