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  13        <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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  19  <p>Entries tagged "debian edu".</p>
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  26  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/The_sorry_state_of_multimedia_browser_plugins_in_Debian.html">The sorry state of multimedia browser plugins in Debian</a>
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  29   2008-11-25 00:10
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  34 <p>Recently I have spent some time evaluating the multimedia browser
  35 plugins available in Debian Lenny, to see which one we should use by
  36 default in Debian Edu.  We need an embedded video playing plugin with
  37 control buttons to pause or stop the video, and capable of streaming
  38 all the multimedia content available on the web.  The test results and
  39 notes are available on
  40 <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/BrowserMultimedia">the
  41 Debian wiki</a>.  I was surprised how few of the plugins are able to
  42 fill this need.  My personal video player favorite, VLC, has a really
  43 bad plugin which fail on a lot of the test pages.  A lot of the MIME
  44 types I would expect to work with any free software player (like
  45 video/ogg), just do not work.  And simple formats like the
  46 audio/x-mplegurl format (m3u playlists), just isn't supported by the
  47 totem and vlc plugins.  I hope the situation will improve soon.  No
  48 wonder sites use the proprietary Adobe flash to play video.</p>
  49
  50 <p>For Lenny, we seem to end up with the mplayer plugin.  It seem to
  51 be the only one fitting our needs. :/</p>
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  58   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web</a>.
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  66  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Devcamp_brought_us_closer_to_the_Lenny_based_Debian_Edu_release.html">Devcamp brought us closer to the Lenny based Debian Edu release</a>
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  69   2008-12-07 12:00
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  74 <p>This weekend we had a small developer gathering for Debian Edu in
  75 Oslo.  Most of Saturday was used for the general assemly for the
  76 member organization, but the rest of the weekend I used to tune the
  77 LTSP installation.  LTSP now work out of the box on the 10-network.
  78 Acer Aspire One proved to be a very nice thin client, with both
  79 screen, mouse and keybard in a small box.  Was working on getting the
  80 diskless workstation setup configured out of the box, but did not
  81 finish it before the weekend was up.</p>
  82
  83 <p>Did not find time to look at the 4 VGA cards in one box we got from
  84 the Brazilian group, so that will have to wait for the next
  85 development gathering.  Would love to have the Debian Edu installer
  86 automatically detect and configure a multiseat setup when it find one
  87 of these cards.</p>
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  94   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ltsp">ltsp</a>.
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 102  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Endelig_norsk_stavekontroll_med_st__tte_for_ord_med_bindestrek.html">Endelig norsk stavekontroll med støtte for ord med bindestrek</a>
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 105   2008-12-26 11:00
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 109
 110 <p>Etter flere års mislykkede forsøk på å skrive om byggesystemet for
 111 <a href="http://no.speling.org/">den norske stavekontrollen for bokmål
 112 og nynorsk</a> til å ikke bruke bindestrek som ordskillemarkør, lyktes jeg
 113 endelig første juledag.  Bruken av bindestrek som ordskillemarkør har
 114 gjort det umulig å få med ord med bindestrek i
 115 stavekontrolldatagrunnlaget, slik at ord som e-post og CD-spiller ikke
 116 kunne godtas av stavekontrollen.  Hadde litt tid til overs å bruke på
 117 stavekontrollen, og satte meg ned med to kopier av byggsystemet og en
 118 liten testdatafil, og byttet ut - med = på utvalgte steder i
 119 byggsystemet og datafilen helt til jeg fikk samme resultat med det
 120 gamle og det nye byggsystemet.  Dette tror jeg var forsøk 4, der de
 121 foregående har feilet uten at jeg klarte å forstå hvorfor.  Det sier
 122 kanskje litt om kompleksiteten i det originale byggsystemet som Rune
 123 Kleveland laget i sin tid.</p>
 124
 125 <p>Etter å ha endret byggsystemet, var neste steg å importere ordene
 126 med bindestrek.  Vi har en rekke slike i databasene for
 127 <a href="http://tyge.sslug.dk/~korsvoll/nb.speling.org/htdocs/">bokmål</a>
 128 og
 129 <a href="http://tyge.sslug.dk/~korsvoll/nn.speling.org/htdocs/">nynorsk</a>
 130 for korrektur av datagrunnlaget for stavekontrollen, og etter importen
 131 skulle nå 10350 nye ord bli godkjent som korrekt stavede ord av
 132 stavekontrollen.</p>
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 139   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll</a>.
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 146  <div class="title">
 147  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Endelig_er_Debian_Lenny_gitt_ut.html">Endelig er Debian Lenny gitt ut</a>
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 149  <div class="date">
 150   2009-02-15 11:50
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 154
 155 <p>Endelig er <a href="http://www.debian.org/">Debian</a>
 156 <a href="http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214">Lenny</a> gitt ut.
 157 Et langt steg videre for Debian-prosjektet, og en rekke nye
 158 programpakker blir nå tilgjengelig for de av oss som bruker den
 159 stabile utgaven av Debian.  Neste steg er nå å få
 160 <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux</a> /
 161 <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/">Debian Edu</a> ferdig
 162 oppdatert for den nye utgaven, slik at en oppdatert versjon kan
 163 slippes løs på skolene.  Takk til alle debian-utviklerne som har
 164 gjort dette mulig.  Endelig er f.eks. fungerende avhengighetsstyrt
 165 bootsekvens tilgjengelig i stabil utgave, vha pakken
 166 <tt>insserv</tt>.</p>
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 173   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>.
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 181  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Time_for_new__LDAP_schemas_replacing_RFC_2307_.html">Time for new  LDAP schemas replacing RFC 2307?</a>
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 184   2009-03-29 20:30
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 188
 189 <p>The state of standardized LDAP schemas on Linux is far from
 190 optimal.  There is RFC 2307 documenting one way to store NIS maps in
 191 LDAP, and a modified version of this normally called RFC 2307bis, with
 192 some modifications to be compatible with Active Directory.  The RFC
 193 specification handle the content of a lot of system databases, but do
 194 not handle DNS zones and DHCP configuration.</p>
 195
 196 <p>In <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu/Skolelinux</a>,
 197 we would like to store information about users, SMB clients/hosts,
 198 filegroups, netgroups (users and hosts), DHCP and DNS configuration,
 199 and LTSP configuration in LDAP.  These objects have a lot in common,
 200 but with the current LDAP schemas it is not possible to have one
 201 object per entity.  For example, one need to have at least three LDAP
 202 objects for a given computer, one with the SMB related stuff, one with
 203 DNS information and another with DHCP information.  The schemas
 204 provided for DNS and DHCP are impossible to combine into one LDAP
 205 object.  In addition, it is impossible to implement quick queries for
 206 netgroup membership, because of the way NIS triples are implemented.
 207 It just do not scale.  I believe it is time for a few RFC
 208 specifications to cleam up this mess.</p>
 209
 210 <p>I would like to have one LDAP object representing each computer in
 211 the network, and this object can then keep the SMB (ie host key), DHCP
 212 (mac address/name) and DNS (name/IP address) settings in one place.
 213 It need to be efficently stored to make sure it scale well.</p>
 214
 215 <p>I would also like to have a quick way to map from a user or
 216 computer and to the net group this user or computer is a member.</p>
 217
 218 <p>Active Directory have done a better job than unix heads like myself
 219 in this regard, and the unix side need to catch up.  Time to start a
 220 new IETF work group?</p>
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 227   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
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 235  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Returning_from_Skolelinux_developer_gathering.html">Returning from Skolelinux developer gathering</a>
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 238   2009-03-29 21:00
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 242
 243 <p>I'm sitting on the train going home from this weekends Debian
 244 Edu/Skolelinux development gathering.  I got a bit done tuning the
 245 desktop, and looked into the dynamic service location protocol
 246 implementation avahi.  It look like it could be useful for us.  Almost
 247 30 people participated, and I believe it was a great environment to
 248 get to know the Skolelinux system.  Walter Bender, involved in the
 249 development of the Sugar educational platform, presented his stuff and
 250 also helped me improve my OLPC installation.  He also showed me that
 251 his Turtle Art application can be used in standalone mode, and we
 252 agreed that I would help getting it packaged for Debian.  As a
 253 standalone application it would be great for Debian Edu.  We also
 254 tried to get the video conferencing working with two OLPCs, but that
 255 proved to be too hard for us.  The application seem to need more work
 256 before it is ready for me.  I look forward to getting home and relax
 257 now. :)</p>
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 264   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
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 272  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/BSAs_p__stander_om_piratkopiering_m__ter_motstand.html">BSAs påstander om piratkopiering møter motstand</a>
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 275   2009-05-17 23:05
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 279
 280 <p>Hvert år de siste årene har BSA, lobbyfronten til de store
 281 programvareselskapene som Microsoft og Apple, publisert en rapport der
 282 de gjetter på hvor mye piratkopiering påfører i tapte inntekter i
 283 ulike land rundt om i verden.  Resultatene er tendensiøse.  For noen
 284 dager siden kom
 285 <a href="http://global.bsa.org/globalpiracy2008/studies/globalpiracy2008.pdf">siste
 286 rapport</a>, og det er flere kritiske kommentarer publisert de siste
 287 dagene.  Et spesielt interessant kommentar fra Sverige,
 288 <a href="http://www.idg.se/2.1085/1.229795/bsa-hoftade-sverigesiffror">BSA
 289 höftade Sverigesiffror</a>, oppsummeres slik:</p>
 290
 291 <blockquote>
 292 I sin senaste rapport slår BSA fast att 25 procent av all mjukvara i
 293 Sverige är piratkopierad. Det utan att ha pratat med ett enda svenskt
 294 företag. "Man bör nog kanske inte se de här siffrorna som helt
 295 exakta", säger BSAs Sverigechef John Hugosson.
 296 </blockquote>
 297
 298 <p>Mon tro om de er like metodiske når de gjetter på andelen piratkopiering i Norge?  To andre kommentarer er <a
 299 href="http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/comment/2242134/bsa-piracy-figures-shot-reality">BSA
 300 piracy figures need a shot of reality</a> og <a
 301 href="http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/3958/125/">Does The WIPO
 302 Copyright Treaty Work?</a></p>
 303
 304 <p>Fant lenkene via <a
 305 href="http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/17/1632242">oppslag
 306 på Slashdot</a>.</p>
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 313   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fildeling">fildeling</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern</a>.
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 321  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Endelig_operativt_webbasert_medlemsregister_for_Fri_programvare_i_skolen.html">Endelig operativt webbasert medlemsregister for Fri programvare i skolen</a>
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 324   2009-11-02 22:40
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 328
 329 <p>Under helgens utviklersamling i
 330 <a href="http://www.skolelinux.no/">Skolelinux</a> fikk jeg endelig
 331 satt meg ned sammen med Ronny Aasen i styret for å få et webbasert
 332 medlemsregister tilbake på plass for foreningen som passer på
 333 skolelinuxprosjektet.  Etter flere års knot og problemer, er nå
 334 memberdb satt opp og klart til bruk.  Import av det gamle
 335 medlemsregisteret har vist seg vanskelig, så alle medlemmer bes om å
 336 registrere seg på nytt.  Hvis du støtter FRiSKs formål så er du
 337 hjertelig velkommen til
 338 <a href="http://medlem.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">å melde deg
 339 inn</a>. Formålet lyder:</p>
 340
 341 <blockquote>Linux i skolen skal tilrettelegge for og informere om bruk
 342 av fri programvare, i henhold til Debian Free Software Guidelines av
 343 2002-02-03, i den norske skolen, slik som f.eks. Linux og
 344 GNU.</blockquote>
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 351   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>.
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 359  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Opphavet_til_Skolelinux_prosjektet.html">Opphavet til Skolelinux-prosjektet</a>
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 361  <div class="date">
 362   2009-12-17 10:50
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 365  <div class="body">
 366
 367 <p>De færreste er klar over at Skolelinux-prosjektet kom som et resultat
 368 av en avgjørelse på årsmøtet i
 369 <a href="http://www.nuug.no/">NUUG</a> i 2000-06-29, der Håkon Wium
 370 Lie, da varamedlem i styret, tok på seg oppdraget om å starte et
 371 initiativ kalt "Teach the Teacher", som skulle være et initiativ for
 372 å få fri programvare og unix-lignende operativsystemer inn i Skolen.
 373 Tanken var at en måtte starte med lærerne for at ungene skulle få
 374 mulighet til å møte en bedre IT-hverdag.  Jeg var tilstede på
 375 møtet, og hadde sans for ideen, men intet skjedde.  På vårparten
 376 2001 ble det arrangert en demonstrasjon i anledning at First Tuesday
 377 hadde invitert Microsoft til et møte for å fortelle om fremtidens
 378 Internet.  Dette provoserte endel av oss, og EFN og NUUG tok initiativ
 379 til å arrangere
 380 <a href="http://www.digi.no/60982/first-tuesday-mote-med-microsoft-protest">en
 381 demonstrasjon utenfor lokalene 2001-05-21</a>.  Blant de som sto bak
 382 demonstrasjonen var Vidar Bakke fra NUUG og Håkon W. Lie fra EFN.
 383 Etter demonstrasjonen arrangerte Håkon en fest hjemme hos seg der alle
 384 som hadde vært aktive i demonstrasjonsplanlegging og gjennomføringen
 385 deltok.  Før festen var jeg blitt lei av å vente på at Håkon skulle ta
 386 initiativ til "Teach the Teacher", og for å forsøke å få litt fremgang
 387 besteme jeg meg for å benytte anledningen hos Håkon til å snakke om
 388 behovet for å hjelpe skolene i gang med bedre datasystemer bestående
 389 av fri programvare og unix-lignende operativsystemer.  Flere var
 390 interessert, og Knut Yrvin tenkte på ideen.  Han
 391 <a href="http://developer.skolelinux.no/brev/2001-06-28-invitasjon-skolelinux.txt">ropte
 392 sammen</a> til et stiftelsesmøte i prosjektet i sin arbeidsgivers
 393 Objectwares lokaler ved Ullevål stadion 2001-07-02, og jeg ble med.
 394 Resten er historie. :)</p>
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 401   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
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 409  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_Munin_and_Nagios_configuration.html">Automatic Munin and Nagios configuration</a>
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 412   2010-01-27 15:15
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 416
 417 <p>One of the new features in the next Debian/Lenny based release of
 418 Debian Edu/Skolelinux, which is scheduled for release in the next few
 419 days, is automatic configuration of the service monitoring system
 420 Nagios.  The previous release had automatic configuration of trend
 421 analysis using Munin, and this Lenny based release take that a step
 422 further.</p>
 423
 424 <p>When installing a Debian Edu Main-server, it is automatically
 425 configured as a Munin and Nagios server.  In addition, it is
 426 configured to be a server for the
 427 <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/SiteSummary">SiteSummary
 428 system</a> I have written for use in Debian Edu.  The SiteSummary
 429 system is inspired by a system used by the University of Oslo where I
 430 work.  In short, the system provide a centralised collector of
 431 information about the computers on the network, and a client on each
 432 computer submitting information to this collector.  This allow for
 433 automatic information on which packages are installed on each machine,
 434 which kernel the machines are using, what kind of configuration the
 435 packages got etc.  This also allow us to automatically generate Munin
 436 and Nagios configuration.</p>
 437
 438 <p>All computers reporting to the sitesummary collector with the
 439 munin-node package installed is automatically enabled as a Munin
 440 client and graphs from the statistics collected from that machine show
 441 up automatically on http://www/munin/ on the Main-server.</p>
 442
 443 <p>All non-laptop computers reporting to the sitesummary collector are
 444 automatically monitored for network presence (ping and any network
 445 services detected).  In addition, all computers (also laptops) with
 446 the nagios-nrpe-server package installed and configured the way
 447 sitesummary would configure it, are monitored for full disks, software
 448 raid status, swap free and other checks that need to run locally on
 449 the machine.</p>
 450
 451 <p>The result is that the administrator on a school using Debian Edu
 452 based on Lenny will be able to check the health of his installation
 453 with one look at the Nagios settings, without having to spend any time
 454 keeping the Nagios configuration up-to-date.</p>
 455
 456 <p>The only configuration one need to do to get Nagios up and running
 457 is to set the password used to get access via HTTP.  The system
 458 administrator need to run "<tt>htpasswd /etc/nagios3/htpasswd.users
 459 nagiosadmin</tt>" to create a nagiosadmin user and set a password for
 460 it to be able to log into the Nagios web pages.  After that,
 461 everything is taken care of.</p>
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 468   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
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 475  <div class="title">
 476  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Lenny_released__work_continues.html">Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Lenny released, work continues</a>
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 478  <div class="date">
 479   2010-02-11 17:15
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 483
 484 <p>On Tuesday, the Debian/Lenny based version of
 485 <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux</a> was finally
 486 shipped.  This was a major leap forward for the project, and I am very
 487 pleased that we finally got the release wrapped up.  Work on the first
 488 point release starts imediately, as we plan to get that one out a
 489 month after the major release, to include all fixes for bugs we found
 490 and fixed too late in the release process to include last Tuesday.</p>
 491
 492 <p>Perhaps it even is time for some partying?</p>
 493
 494 <p>After this first point release, my plan is to focus again on the
 495 next major release, based on Squeeze.  We will try to get as many of
 496 the fixes we need into the official Debian packages before the freeze,
 497 and have just a few weeks or months to make it happen.</p>
 498
 499  </div>
 500  <div class="tags">
 501
 502
 503
 504   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
 505
 506  </div>
 507 </div>
 508 <div class="padding"></div>
 509
 510 <div class="entry">
 511  <div class="title">
 512  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/After_6_years_of_waiting__the_Xreset_d_feature_is_implemented.html">After 6 years of waiting, the Xreset.d feature is implemented</a>
 513  </div>
 514  <div class="date">
 515   2010-03-06 18:15
 516  </div>
 517
 518  <div class="body">
 519
 520 <p>6 years ago, as part of the Debian Edu development I am involved
 521 in, I asked for a hook in the kdm and gdm setup to run scripts as root
 522 when the user log out.  A bug was submitted against the xfree86-common
 523 package in 2004 (<a href="http://bugs.debian.org/230422">#230422</a>),
 524 and revisited every time Debian Edu was working on a new release.
 525 Today, this finally paid off.</p>
 526
 527 <p>The framework for this feature was today commited to the git
 528 repositry for the xorg package, and the git repository for xdm has
 529 been updated to use this framework.  Next on my agenda is to make sure
 530 kdm and gdm also add code to use this framework.</p>
 531
 532 <p>In Debian Edu, we want to ability to run commands as root when the
 533 user log out, to get rid of runaway processes and do general cleanup
 534 after a user.  With this framework in place, we finally can do that in
 535 a generic way that work with all display managers using this
 536 framework.  My goal is to get all display managers in Debian use it,
 537 similar to how they use the Xsession.d framework today.<p>
 538
 539  </div>
 540  <div class="tags">
 541
 542
 543
 544   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
 545
 546  </div>
 547 </div>
 548 <div class="padding"></div>
 549
 550 <div class="entry">
 551  <div class="title">
 552  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Kerberos_for_Debian_Edu_Squeeze_.html">Kerberos for Debian Edu/Squeeze?</a>
 553  </div>
 554  <div class="date">
 555   2010-04-14 17:20
 556  </div>
 557
 558  <div class="body">
 559
 560 <p><a href="http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20100413-kerberos/">Yesterdays
 561 NUUG presentation</a> about Kerberos was inspiring, and reminded me
 562 about the need to start using Kerberos in Skolelinux.  Setting up a
 563 Kerberos server seem to be straight forward, and if we get this in
 564 place a long time before the Squeeze version of Debian freezes, we
 565 have a chance to migrate Skolelinux away from NFSv3 for the home
 566 directories, and over to an architecture where the infrastructure do
 567 not have to trust IP addresses and machines, and instead can trust
 568 users and cryptographic keys instead.</p>
 569
 570 <p>A challenge will be integration and administration.  Is there a
 571 Kerberos implementation for Debian where one can control the
 572 administration access in Kerberos using LDAP groups?  With it, the
 573 school administration will have to maintain access control using flat
 574 files on the main server, which give a huge potential for errors.</p>
 575
 576 <p>A related question I would like to know is how well Kerberos and
 577 pam-ccreds (offline password check) work together.  Anyone know?</p>
 578
 579 <p>Next step will be to use Kerberos for access control in Lwat and
 580 Nagios.  I have no idea how much work that will be to implement.  We
 581 would also need to document how to integrate with Windows AD, as such
 582 shared network will require two Kerberos realms that need to cooperate
 583 to work properly.</p>
 584
 585 <p>I believe a good start would be to start using Kerberos on the
 586 skolelinux.no machines, and this way get ourselves experience with
 587 configuration and integration.  A natural starting point would be
 588 setting up ldap.skolelinux.no as the Kerberos server, and migrate the
 589 rest of the machines from PAM via LDAP to PAM via Kerberos one at the
 590 time.</p>
 591
 592 <p>If you would like to contribute to get this working in Skolelinux,
 593 I recommend you to see the video recording from yesterdays NUUG
 594 presentation, and start using Kerberos at home.  The video show show
 595 up in a few days.</p>
 596
 597  </div>
 598  <div class="tags">
 599
 600
 601
 602   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
 603
 604  </div>
 605 </div>
 606 <div class="padding"></div>
 607
 608 <div class="entry">
 609  <div class="title">
 610  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Thoughts_on_roaming_laptop_setup_for_Debian_Edu.html">Thoughts on roaming laptop setup for Debian Edu</a>
 611  </div>
 612  <div class="date">
 613   2010-04-28 20:40
 614  </div>
 615
 616  <div class="body">
 617
 618 <p>For some years now, I have wondered how we should handle laptops in
 619 Debian Edu.  The Debian Edu infrastructure is mostly designed to
 620 handle stationary computers, and less suited for computers that come
 621 and go.</p>
 622
 623 <p>Now I finally believe I have an sensible idea on how to adjust
 624 Debian Edu for laptops, by introducing a new profile for them, for
 625 example called Roaming Workstations.  Here are my thought on this.
 626 The setup would consist of the following:</p>
 627
 628 <ul>
 629
 630  <li>During installation, the user name of the owner / primary user of
 631    the laptop is requested and a local home directory is set up for
 632    the user, with uid and gid information fetched from the LDAP
 633    server.  This allow the user to work also when offline.  The
 634    central home directory can be available in a subdirectory on
 635    request, for example mounted via CIFS.  It could be mounted
 636    automatically when a user log in while on the Debian Edu network,
 637    and unmounted when the machine is taken away (network down,
 638    hibernate, etc), it can be set up to do automatic mounting on
 639    request (using autofs), or perhaps some GUI button on the desktop
 640    can be used to access it when needed.  Perhaps it is enough to use
 641    the fish protocol in KDE?</li>
 642
 643  <li>Password checking is set up to use LDAP or Kerberos
 644    authentication when the machine is on the Debian Edu network, and
 645    to cache the password for offline checking when the machine unable
 646    to reach the LDAP or Kerberos server.  This can be done using
 647    <a href="http://www.padl.com/OSS/pam_ccreds.html">libpam-ccreds</a>
 648    or the Fedora developed
 649    <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SSSD">System
 650    Security Services Daemon</a> packages.</li>
 651
 652  <li>File synchronisation with the central home directory is set up
 653    using a shared directory in both the local and the central home
 654    directory, using unison.</li>
 655
 656  <li>Printing should be set up to print to all printers broadcasting
 657    their existence on the local network, and should then work out of
 658    the box with CUPS.  For sites needing accurate printer quotas, some
 659    system with Kerberos authentication or printing via ssh could be
 660    implemented.</li>
 661
 662  <li>For users that should have local root access to their laptop,
 663    sudo should be used to allow this to the local user.</li>
 664
 665  <li>It would be nice if user and group information from LDAP is
 666    cached on the client, but given that there are entries for the
 667    local user and primary group in /etc/, it should not be needed.</li>
 668
 669 </ul>
 670
 671 <p>I believe all the pieces to implement this are in Debian/testing at
 672 the moment.  If we work quickly, we should be able to get this ready
 673 in time for the Squeeze release to freeze.  Some of the pieces need
 674 tweaking, like libpam-ccreds should get support for pam-auth-update
 675 (<a href="http://bugs.debian.org/566718">#566718</a>) and nslcd (or
 676 perhaps debian-edu-config) should get some integration code to stop
 677 its daemon when the LDAP server is unavailable to avoid long timeouts
 678 when disconnected from the net.  If we get Kerberos enabled, we need
 679 to make sure we avoid long timeouts there too.</p>
 680
 681 <p>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
 682 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.</p>
 683
 684  </div>
 685  <div class="tags">
 686
 687
 688
 689   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
 690
 691  </div>
 692 </div>
 693 <div class="padding"></div>
 694
 695 <div class="entry">
 696  <div class="title">
 697  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Forcing_new_users_to_change_their_password_on_first_login.html">Forcing new users to change their password on first login</a>
 698  </div>
 699  <div class="date">
 700   2010-05-02 13:47
 701  </div>
 702
 703  <div class="body">
 704
 705 <p>One interesting feature in Active Directory, is the ability to
 706 create a new user with an expired password, and thus force the user to
 707 change the password on the first login attempt.</p>
 708
 709 <p>I'm not quite sure how to do that with the LDAP setup in Debian
 710 Edu, but did some initial testing with a local account.  The account
 711 and password aging information is available in /etc/shadow, but
 712 unfortunately, it is not possible to specify an expiration time for
 713 passwords, only a maximum age for passwords.</p>
 714
 715 <p>A freshly created account (using adduser test) will have these
 716 settings in /etc/shadow:</p>
 717
 718 <blockquote><pre>
 719 root@tjener:~# chage -l test
 720 Last password change                                    : May 02, 2010
 721 Password expires                                        : never
 722 Password inactive                                       : never
 723 Account expires                                         : never
 724 Minimum number of days between password change          : 0
 725 Maximum number of days between password change          : 99999
 726 Number of days of warning before password expires       : 7
 727 root@tjener:~#
 728 </pre></blockquote>
 729
 730 <p>The only way I could come up with to create a user with an expired
 731 account, is to change the date of the last password change to the
 732 lowest value possible (January 1th 1970), and the maximum password age
 733 to the difference in days between that date and today.  To make it
 734 simple, I went for 30 years (30 * 365 = 10950) and January 2th (to
 735 avoid testing if 0 is a valid value).</p>
 736
 737 <p>After using these commands to set it up, it seem to work as
 738 intended:</p>
 739
 740 <blockquote><pre>
 741 root@tjener:~# chage -d 1 test; chage -M 10950 test
 742 root@tjener:~# chage -l test
 743 Last password change                                    : Jan 02, 1970
 744 Password expires                                        : never
 745 Password inactive                                       : never
 746 Account expires                                         : never
 747 Minimum number of days between password change          : 0
 748 Maximum number of days between password change          : 10950
 749 Number of days of warning before password expires       : 7
 750 root@tjener:~#
 751 </pre></blockquote>
 752
 753 <p>So far I have tested this with ssh and console, and kdm (in
 754 Squeeze) login, and all ask for a new password before login in the
 755 user (with ssh, I was thrown out and had to log in again).</p>
 756
 757 <p>Perhaps we should set up something similar for Debian Edu, to make
 758 sure only the user itself have the account password?</p>
 759
 760 <p>If you want to comment on or help out with implementing this for
 761 Debian Edu, please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.</p>
 762
 763 <p>Update 2010-05-02 17:20: Paul Tötterman tells me on IRC that the
 764 shadow(8) page in Debian/testing now state that setting the date of
 765 last password change to zero (0) will force the password to be changed
 766 on the first login.  This was not mentioned in the manual in Lenny, so
 767 I did not notice this in my initial testing.  I have tested it on
 768 Squeeze, and '<tt>chage -d 0 username</tt>' do work there.  I have not
 769 tested it on Lenny yet.</p>
 770
 771 <p>Update 2010-05-02-19:05: Jim Paris tells me via email that an
 772 equivalent command to expire a password is '<tt>passwd -e
 773 username</tt>', which insert zero into the date of the last password
 774 change.</p>
 775
 776  </div>
 777  <div class="tags">
 778
 779
 780
 781   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet</a>.
 782
 783  </div>
 784 </div>
 785 <div class="padding"></div>
 786
 787 <div class="entry">
 788  <div class="title">
 789  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Sitesummary_tip__Listing_MAC_address_of_all_clients.html">Sitesummary tip: Listing MAC address of all clients</a>
 790  </div>
 791  <div class="date">
 792   2010-05-14 21:10
 793  </div>
 794
 795  <div class="body">
 796
 797 <p>In the recent Debian Edu versions, the
 798 <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/SiteSummary">sitesummary
 799 system</a> is used to keep track of the machines in the school
 800 network.  Each machine will automatically report its status to the
 801 central server after boot and once per night.  The network setup is
 802 also reported, and using this information it is possible to get the
 803 MAC address of all network interfaces in the machines.  This is useful
 804 to update the DHCP configuration.</p>
 805
 806 <p>To give some idea how to use sitesummary, here is a one-liner to
 807 ist all MAC addresses of all machines reporting to sitesummary.  Run
 808 this on the collector host:</p>
 809
 810 <blockquote><pre>
 811 perl -MSiteSummary -e 'for_all_hosts(sub { print join(" ", get_macaddresses(shift)), "\n"; });'
 812 </pre></blockquote>
 813
 814 <p>This will list all MAC addresses assosiated with all machine, one
 815 line per machine and with space between the MAC addresses.</p>
 816
 817 <p>To allow system administrators easier job at adding static DHCP
 818 addresses for hosts, it would be possible to extend this to fetch
 819 machine information from sitesummary and update the DHCP and DNS
 820 tables in LDAP using this information.  Such tool is unfortunately not
 821 written yet.</p>
 822
 823  </div>
 824  <div class="tags">
 825
 826
 827
 828   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary</a>.
 829
 830  </div>
 831 </div>
 832 <div class="padding"></div>
 833
 834 <div class="entry">
 835  <div class="title">
 836  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Parallellized_boot_is_now_the_default_in_Debian_unstable.html">Parallellized boot is now the default in Debian/unstable</a>
 837  </div>
 838  <div class="date">
 839   2010-05-14 22:40
 840  </div>
 841
 842  <div class="body">
 843
 844 <p>Since this evening, parallel booting is the default in
 845 Debian/unstable for machines using dependency based boot sequencing.
 846 Apparently the testing of concurrent booting has been wider than
 847 expected, if I am to believe the
 848 <a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/05/msg00122.html">input
 849 on debian-devel@</a>, and I concluded a few days ago to move forward
 850 with the feature this weekend, to give us some time to detect any
 851 remaining problems before Squeeze is frozen.  If serious problems are
 852 detected, it is simple to change the default back to sequential boot.
 853 The upload of the new sysvinit package also activate a new upstream
 854 version.</p>
 855
 856 More information about
 857 <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot">dependency
 858 based boot sequencing</a> is available from the Debian wiki.  It is
 859 currently possible to disable parallel booting when one run into
 860 problems caused by it, by adding this line to /etc/default/rcS:</p>
 861
 862 <blockquote><pre>
 863 CONCURRENCY=none
 864 </pre></blockquote>
 865
 866 <p>If you report any problems with dependencies in init.d scripts to
 867 the BTS, please usertag the report to get it to show up at
 868 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=initscripts-ng-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org">the
 869 list of usertagged bugs related to this</a>.</p>
 870
 871  </div>
 872  <div class="tags">
 873
 874
 875
 876   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
 877
 878  </div>
 879 </div>
 880 <div class="padding"></div>
 881
 882 <div class="entry">
 883  <div class="title">
 884  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Pieces_of_the_roaming_laptop_puzzle_in_Debian.html">Pieces of the roaming laptop puzzle in Debian</a>
 885  </div>
 886  <div class="date">
 887   2010-05-19 19:00
 888  </div>
 889
 890  <div class="body">
 891
 892 <p>Today, the last piece of the puzzle for roaming laptops in Debian
 893 Edu finally entered the Debian archive.  Today, the new
 894 <a href="http://packages.qa.debian.org/libp/libpam-mklocaluser.html">libpam-mklocaluser</a>
 895 package was accepted.  Two days ago, two other pieces was accepted
 896 into unstable.  The
 897 <a href="http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/pam-python.html">pam-python</a>
 898 package needed by libpam-mklocaluser, and the
 899 <a href="http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/sssd.html">sssd</a> package
 900 passed NEW on Monday.  In addition, the
 901 <a href="http://packages.qa.debian.org/libp/libpam-ccreds.html">libpam-ccreds</a>
 902 package we need is in experimental (version 10-4) since Saturday, and
 903 hopefully will be moved to unstable soon.</p>
 904
 905 <p>This collection of packages allow for two different setups for
 906 roaming laptops.  The traditional setup would be using libpam-ccreds,
 907 nscd and libpam-mklocaluser with LDAP or Kerberos authentication,
 908 which should work out of the box if the configuration changes proposed
 909 for nscd in <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/485282">BTS report
 910 #485282</a> is implemented.  The alternative setup is to use sssd with
 911 libpam-mklocaluser to connect to LDAP or Kerberos and let sssd take
 912 care of the caching of passwords and group information.</p>
 913
 914 <p>I have so far been unable to get sssd to work with the LDAP server
 915 at the University, but suspect the issue is some SSL/GnuTLS related
 916 problem with the server certificate.  I plan to update the Debian
 917 package to version 1.2, which is scheduled for next week, and hope to
 918 find time to make sure the next release will include both the
 919 Debian/Ubuntu specific patches.  Upstream is friendly and responsive,
 920 and I am sure we will find a good solution.</p>
 921
 922 <p>The idea is to set up the roaming laptops to authenticate using
 923 LDAP or Kerberos and create a local user with home directory in /home/
 924 when a usre in LDAP logs in via KDM or GDM for the first time, and
 925 cache the password for offline checking, as well as caching group
 926 memberhips and other relevant LDAP information.  The
 927 libpam-mklocaluser package was created to make sure the local home
 928 directory is in /home/, instead of /site/server/directory/ which would
 929 be the home directory if pam_mkhomedir was used.  To avoid confusion
 930 with support requests and configuration, we do not want local laptops
 931 to have users in a path that is used for the same users home directory
 932 on the home directory servers.</p>
 933
 934 <p>One annoying problem with gdm is that it do not show the PAM
 935 message passed to the user from libpam-mklocaluser when the local user
 936 is created.  Instead gdm simply reject the login with some generic
 937 message.  The message is shown in kdm, ssh and login, so I guess it is
 938 a bug in gdm.  Have not investigated if there is some other message
 939 type that can be used instead to get gdm to also show the message.</p>
 940
 941 <p>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
 942 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.</p>
 943
 944  </div>
 945  <div class="tags">
 946
 947
 948
 949   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
 950
 951  </div>
 952 </div>
 953 <div class="padding"></div>
 954
 955 <div class="entry">
 956  <div class="title">
 957  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/More_flexible_firmware_handling_in_debian_installer.html">More flexible firmware handling in debian-installer</a>
 958  </div>
 959  <div class="date">
 960   2010-05-22 21:30
 961  </div>
 962
 963  <div class="body">
 964
 965 <p>After a long break from debian-installer development, I finally
 966 found time today to return to the project.  Having to spend less time
 967 working dependency based boot in debian, as it is almost complete now,
 968 definitely helped freeing some time.</p>
 969
 970 <p>A while back, I ran into a problem while working on Debian Edu.  We
 971 include some firmware packages on the Debian Edu CDs, those needed to
 972 get disk and network controllers working.  Without having these
 973 firmware packages available during installation, it is impossible to
 974 install Debian Edu on the given machine, and because our target group
 975 are non-technical people, asking them to provide firmware packages on
 976 an external medium is a support pain.  Initially, I expected it to be
 977 enough to include the firmware packages on the CD to get
 978 debian-installer to find and use them.  This proved to be wrong.
 979 Next, I hoped it was enough to symlink the relevant firmware packages
 980 to some useful location on the CD (tried /cdrom/ and
 981 /cdrom/firmware/).  This also proved to not work, and at this point I
 982 found time to look at the debian-installer code to figure out what was
 983 going to work.</p>
 984
 985 <p>The firmware loading code is in the hw-detect package, and a closer
 986 look revealed that it would only look for firmware packages outside
 987 the installation media, so the CD was never checked for firmware
 988 packages.  It would only check USB sticks, floppies and other
 989 "external" media devices.  Today I changed it to also look in the
 990 /cdrom/firmware/ directory on the mounted CD or DVD, which should
 991 solve the problem I ran into with Debian edu.  I also changed it to
 992 look in /firmware/, to make sure the installer also find firmware
 993 provided in the initrd when booting the installer via PXE, to allow us
 994 to provide the same feature in the PXE setup included in Debian
 995 Edu.</p>
 996
 997 <p>To make sure firmware deb packages with a license questions are not
 998 activated without asking if the license is accepted, I extended
 999 hw-detect to look for preinst scripts in the firmware packages, and
1000 run these before activating the firmware during installation.  The
1001 license question is asked using debconf in the preinst, so this should
1002 solve the issue for the firmware packages I have looked at so far.</p>
1003
1004 <p>If you want to discuss the details of these features, please
1005 contact us on debian-boot@lists.debian.org.</p>
1006
1007  </div>
1008  <div class="tags">
1009
1010
1011
1012   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
1013
1014  </div>
1015 </div>
1016 <div class="padding"></div>
1017
1018 <div class="entry">
1019  <div class="title">
1020  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Parallellized_boot_seem_to_hold_up_well_in_Debian_testing.html">Parallellized boot seem to hold up well in Debian/testing</a>
1021  </div>
1022  <div class="date">
1023   2010-05-27 23:55
1024  </div>
1025
1026  <div class="body">
1027
1028 <p>A few days ago, parallel booting was enabled in Debian/testing.
1029 The feature seem to hold up pretty well, but three fairly serious
1030 issues are known and should be solved:
1031
1032 <p><ul>
1033
1034 <li>The wicd package seen to
1035 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/508289">break NFS mounting</a> and
1036 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/581586">network setup</a> when
1037 parallel booting is enabled.  No idea why, but the wicd maintainer
1038 seem to be on the case.</li>
1039
1040 <li>The nvidia X driver seem to
1041 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/583312">have a race condition</a>
1042 triggered more easily when parallel booting is in effect.  The
1043 maintainer is on the case.</li>
1044
1045 <li>The sysv-rc package fail to properly enable dependency based boot
1046 sequencing (the shutdown is broken) when old file-rc users
1047 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/575080">try to switch back</a> to
1048 sysv-rc.  One way to solve it would be for file-rc to create
1049 /etc/init.d/.legacy-bootordering, and another is to try to make
1050 sysv-rc more robust.  Will investigate some more and probably upload a
1051 workaround in sysv-rc to help those trying to move from file-rc to
1052 sysv-rc get a working shutdown.</li>
1053
1054 </ul></p>
1055
1056 <p>All in all not many surprising issues, and all of them seem
1057 solvable before Squeeze is released.  In addition to these there are
1058 some packages with bugs in their dependencies and run level settings,
1059 which I expect will be fixed in a reasonable time span.</p>
1060
1061 <p>If you report any problems with dependencies in init.d scripts to
1062 the BTS, please usertag the report to get it to show up at
1063 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=initscripts-ng-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org">the
1064 list of usertagged bugs related to this</a>.</p>
1065
1066 <p>Update: Correct bug number to file-rc issue.</p>
1067
1068  </div>
1069  <div class="tags">
1070
1071
1072
1073   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
1074
1075  </div>
1076 </div>
1077 <div class="padding"></div>
1078
1079 <div class="entry">
1080  <div class="title">
1081  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/KDM_fail_at_boot_with_NVidia_cards___and_no_one_try_to_fix_it_.html">KDM fail at boot with NVidia cards - and no one try to fix it?</a>
1082  </div>
1083  <div class="date">
1084   2010-06-01 17:05
1085  </div>
1086
1087  <div class="body">
1088
1089 <p>It is strange to watch how a bug in Debian causing KDM to fail to
1090 start at boot when an NVidia video card is used.  The problem seem to
1091 be that the nvidia X.org driver uses a long time to initialize, and
1092 this duration is longer than kdm is configured to wait.</p>
1093
1094 <p>I came across two bugs related to this issue,
1095 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/583312">#583312</a> initially filed
1096 against initscripts and passed on to nvidia-glx when it became obvious
1097 that the nvidia drivers were involved, and
1098 <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/524751">#524751</a> initially filed against
1099 kdm and passed on to src:nvidia-graphics-drivers for unknown reasons.</p>
1100
1101 <p>To me, it seem that no-one is interested in actually solving the
1102 problem nvidia video card owners experience and make sure the Debian
1103 distribution work out of the box for these users.  The nvidia driver
1104 maintainers expect kdm to be set up to wait longer, while kdm expect
1105 the nvidia driver maintainers to fix the driver start faster, and
1106 while they wait for each other I guess the users end up switching to a
1107 distribution that work for them.  I have no idea what the solution is,
1108 but I am pretty sure that waiting for each other is not it.</p>
1109
1110 <p>I wonder why we end up handling bugs this way.</p>
1111
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