1 Title: Debian Edu interview: Mike Gabriel
2 Tags: english, debian edu, intervju
5 <p>Back in 2010, Mike Gabriel showed up on the <a
6 href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu and Skolelinux</a>
7 mailing list. He quickly proved to be a valuable developer, and
8 thanks to his tireless effort we now have Kerberos integrated into the
9 Debian Edu Squeeze version.</p>
11 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?</strong></p>
13 <p>My name is Mike Gabriel, I am 38 years old and live near Kiel,
14 Schleswig-Holstein, Germany. I live together with a wonderful partner
15 (Angela Fuß) and two own children and two bonus children (contributed
18 <p>During the day I am part-time employed as a system administrator
19 and part-time working as an IT consultant. The consultancy work
20 touches free software topics wherever and whenever possible. During
21 the nights I am a free software developer. In the gaps I also train in
22 becoming an osteopath.</p>
24 <p>Starting in 2010 we (Andreas Buchholz, Angela Fuß, Mike Gabriel)
25 have set up a free software project in the area of Kiel that aims at
26 introducing free software into schools. The project's name is
27 "IT-Zukunft Schule" (IT future for schools). The project links IT
28 skills with communication skills.</p>
30 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
33 <p>While preparing our own customised Linux distribution for
34 "IT-Zukunft Schule" we were repeatedly asked if we really wanted to
35 reinvent the wheel. What schools really need is already available,
36 people said. From this impulse we started evaluating other Linux
37 distributions that target being used for school networks.</p>
39 <p>At the end we short-listed two approaches and compared them: a
40 commercial Linux distribution developed by a company in Bremen,
41 Germany, and Skolelinux / Debian Edu. Between 12/2010 and 03/2011 we
42 went to several events and met people being responsible for marketing
43 and development of either of the distributions. Skolelinux / Debian
44 Edu was by far much more convincing compared to the other product that
45 got short-listed beforehand--across the full spectrum. What was most
46 attractive for me personally: the perspective of collaboration within
47 the developmental branch of the Debian Edu project itself.</p>
49 <p>In parallel with this, we talked to many local and not-so-local
50 people. People teaching at schools, headmasters, politicians, data
51 protection experts, other IT professionals.</p>
53 <p>We came to two conclusions:</p>
55 <p>First, a technical conclusion: What schools need is available in
56 bits and pieces here and there, and none of the solutions really fit
57 by 100%. Any school we have seen has a very individual IT setup
58 whereas most of each school's requirements could mapped by a standard
59 IT solution. The requirement to this IT solution is flexibility and
60 customisability, so that individual adaptations here and there are
61 possible. In terms of re-distributing and rolling out such a
62 standardised IT system for schools (a system that is still to some
63 degree customisable) there is still a lot of work to do here
64 locally. Debian Edu / Skolelinux has been our choice as the starting
67 <p>Second, a holistic conclusion: What schools need does not exist at
68 all (or we missed it so far). There are several technical solutions
69 for handling IT at schools that tend to make a good impression. What
70 has been missing completely here in Germany, though, is the enrolment
71 of people into using IT and teaching with IT. "IT-Zukunft Schule"
72 tries to provide an approach for this.</p>
74 <p>Only some schools have some sort of a media concept which explains,
75 defines and gives guidance on how to use IT in class. Most schools in
76 Northern Germany do not have an IT service provider, the school's IT
77 equipment is managed by one or (if the school is lucky) two (admin)
78 teachers, most of the workload these admin teachers get done in there
81 <p>We were surprised that only a very few admin teachers were
82 networked with colleagues from other schools. Basically, every school
83 here around has its individual approach of providing IT equipment to
84 teachers and students and the exchange of ideas has been quasi
85 non-existent until 2010/2011.</p>
87 <p>Quite some (non-admin) teachers try to avoid using IT technology in
88 class as a learning medium completely. Several reasons for this
89 avoidance do exist.</p>
91 <p>We discovered that no-one has ever taken a closer look at this
92 social part of IT management in schools, so far. On our quest journey
93 for a technical IT solution for schools, we discussed this issue with
94 several teachers, headmasters, politicians, other IT professionals and
95 they all confirmed: a holistic approach of considering IT management
96 at schools, an approach that includes the people at place, will be new
97 and probably a gain for all.</p>
99 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
102 <p>There is a list of advantages: international context, openness to
103 any kind of contributions, do-ocracy policy, the closeness to Debian,
104 the different installation scenarios possible (from stand-alone
105 workstation to complex multi-server sites), the tralnsparency within
106 project communication, honest communication within the group of
109 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
112 <p>Every coin has two sides:</p>
114 <p>Technically: <ahref="http://bugs.debian.org/311188">BTS issue
115 #311188</a>, tricky upgradability of a Debian Edu main server, network
116 client installations on top of a plain vanilla Debian installation
117 should become possible sometime in the near future, one could think
118 about splitting the very complex package debian-edu-config into
119 several portions (to make it easier for new developers to
122 <p>Another issue I see is that we (as Debian Edu developers) should
123 find out more about the network of people who do the marketing for
124 Debian Edu / Skolelinux. There is a very active group in Germany
125 promoting Skolelinux on the bigger Linux Days within Germany. Are
126 there other groups like that in other countries? How can we bring
127 these marketing people together (marketing group A with group B and
128 all of them with the group of Debian Edu developers)? During the last
129 meeting of the German Skolelinux group, I got the impression of people
130 there being rather disconnected from the development department of
131 Debian Edu / Skolelinux.</p>
133 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?</strong></p>
135 <p>For my daily business, I do not use commercial software at all.</p>
137 <p>For normal stuff I use Iceweasel/Firefox, Libreoffice.org. For
138 serious text writing I prefer LaTeX. I use gimp, inkscape, scribus for
139 more artistic tasks. I run virtual machines in KVM and Virtualbox.</p>
141 <p>I am one of the upstream developers of X2Go. In 2010 I started the
142 development of a Python based X2Go Client, called PyHoca-GUI.
143 PyHoca-GUI has brought forth a Python X2Go Client API that currently
144 is being integrated in Ubuntu's software center.</p>
146 <p>For communications I have my own Kolab server running using Horde
147 as web-based groupware client. For IRC I love to use irssi, for Jabber
148 I have several clients that I use, mostly pidgin, though. I am also
149 the Debian maintainer of Coccinella, a Jabber-based interactive
152 <p>My favourite terminal emulator is KDE's Yakuake.</p>
154 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
155 get schools to use free software?</strong></p>
157 <p>Communicate, communicate, communicate. Enrol people, enrol people,