1 Title: Debian Edu interview: Yvan Masson
2 Tags: english, debian edu, intervju
4 Publish: 2020-05-12 09:50
6 <p>It has been way too long since my last interview, but as the
7 <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux</a>
8 community is still active, and new people keep showing up on the IRC
9 channel <a href="irc://irc.debian.org/#debian-edu">#debian-edu</a> and
10 <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/">the debian-edu mailing
11 list</a>, I decided to give it another go. I was hoping someone else
12 might pick up the idea and run with it, but this has not happened as
13 far as I can tell, so here we are… This time the announcement of a new
15 <a href="https://framagit.org/Yvan-Masson/WhosWho">create a school year
16 book</a> triggered my interest, and I decided to learn more about its
19 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?</strong></p>
21 <p>My name is Yvan MASSON, I live in France. I have my own one person
22 business in computer services. The work consist of visiting my
23 customers (person's home, local authority, small business) to give
24 advise, install computers and software, fix issues, and provide
25 computing usage training. I spend the rest of my time enjoying my
26 family and promoting free software.</p>
28 <p><strong>What is your approach for promoting free
29 software?</strong></p>
31 <p>When I think that free software could be suitable for someone, I
32 explain what it is, with simple words, give a few known examples, and
33 explain that while there is no fee it is a viable alternative in many
34 situations. Most people are receptive when you explain how it is
35 better (I simplify arguments here, I know that it is not so simple):
36 Linux works on older hardware, there are no viruses, and the software
37 can be audited to ensure user is not spied upon. I think the most
38 important is to keep a clear but moderated speech: when you try to
39 convince too much, people feel attacked and stop listening.</p>
41 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
44 <p>I can not remember how I first heard of Skolelinux / Debian Edu,
45 but probably on planet.debian.org. As I have been working for a
46 school, I have interest in this type of project.
48 <p>The school I am involved in is a school for "children" between 14
49 and 18 years old. French government has recommended free software
50 since 2012 (but is far away from applying this to itself), so while
51 the school computers are still using Windows, all computer have the
52 classic set of free software: Firefox ESR, LibreOffice (with the
53 excellent extension Grammalecte that indicates French grammatical
54 errors), SumatraPDF, Audacity, 7zip, KeePass2, VLC, GIMP, Inkscape…
56 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
59 <p>It is free software! Built on Debian, I am sure that users are not
60 spied upon, and that it can run on low end hardware. This last point
61 is very important, because we really need to improve "green IT". I do
62 not know enough about Skolelinux / Debian Edu to tell how it is better
63 than another free software solution, but what I like is the "all in
64 one" solution: everything has been thought of and prepared to ease
65 installation and usage.</p>
67 I like Free Software because I hate using something that I can not
68 understand. I do not say that I can understand everything nor that I
69 want to understand everything, but knowing that someone / some company
70 intentionally prevents me from understanding how things work is really
71 unacceptable to me.</p>
73 <p>Secondly, and more importantly, free software is a requirement to
74 prevent abuses regarding human rights and environmental care.
75 Humanity can not rely on tools that are in the hands of small group of
78 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
81 <p>Again, I don't know this project enough. Maybe a dedicated website?
82 Debian wiki works well for documentation, but is not very appealing to
83 someone discovering the project. Also, as Skolelinux / Debian Edu uses
84 OpenLDAP, it probably means that Windows workstations cannot use
85 centralized authentication. Maybe the project could use Samba as an
86 Active Directory domain controller instead, allowing Windows desktop
87 usage when necessary.</p>
89 <p>(Editors note: Infact Windows workstations can get the centralized
90 authentication in a Debian Edu setup, but the fact that this is not
91 well known can be seen as an indication of the need for better
92 documentation and marketing. :)
94 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?</strong></p>
96 <p>Nothing original: Debian testing/sid with Gnome desktop, Firefox,
97 Thunderbird, LibreOffice…</p>
99 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
100 get schools to use free software?</strong></p>
102 <p>Every effort to spread free software into schools is important,
103 whatever it is. But I think, at least where I live, that IT
104 professionals maintaining schools networks are still very "Microsoft
105 centric". Schools will use any working solution, but they need people
106 to install and maintain it. How to make these professionals sensitive
107 about free software and train them with solutions like Debian Edu /
108 Skolelinux is a really good question :-)</p>