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21 <h3>Entries tagged "debian edu".
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25 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Speeding_up_the_Debian_installer_using_eatmydata_and_dpkg_divert.html">Speeding up the Debian installer using eatmydata and dpkg-divert
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31 <p>The
<a href=
"https://www.debian.org/">Debian
</a> installer could be
32 a lot quicker. When we install more than
2000 packages in
33 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux / Debian Edu
</a> using
34 tasksel in the installer, unpacking the binary packages take forever.
35 A part of the slow I/O issue was discussed in
36 <a href=
"https://bugs.debian.org/613428">bug #
613428</a> about too
37 much file system sync-ing done by dpkg, which is the package
38 responsible for unpacking the binary packages. Other parts (like code
39 executed by postinst scripts) might also sync to disk during
40 installation. All this sync-ing to disk do not really make sense to
41 me. If the machine crash half-way through, I start over, I do not try
42 to salvage the half installed system. So the failure sync-ing is
43 supposed to protect against, hardware or system crash, is not really
44 relevant while the installer is running.
</p>
46 <p>A few days ago, I thought of a way to get rid of all the file
47 system sync()-ing in a fairly non-intrusive way, without the need to
48 change the code in several packages. The idea is not new, but I have
49 not heard anyone propose the approach using dpkg-divert before. It
50 depend on the small and clever package
51 <a href=
"https://packages.qa.debian.org/eatmydata">eatmydata
</a>, which
52 uses LD_PRELOAD to replace the system functions for syncing data to
53 disk with functions doing nothing, thus allowing programs to live
54 dangerous while speeding up disk I/O significantly. Instead of
55 modifying the implementation of dpkg, apt and tasksel (which are the
56 packages responsible for selecting, fetching and installing packages),
57 it occurred to me that we could just divert the programs away, replace
58 them with a simple shell wrapper calling
59 "eatmydata
$program
$@", to get the same effect.
60 Two days ago I decided to test the idea, and wrapped up a simple
61 implementation for the Debian Edu udeb.
</p>
63 <p>The effect was stunning. In my first test it reduced the running
64 time of the pkgsel step (installing tasks) from
64 to less than
44
65 minutes (
20 minutes shaved off the installation) on an old Dell
66 Latitude D505 machine. I am not quite sure what the optimised time
67 would have been, as I messed up the testing a bit, causing the debconf
68 priority to get low enough for two questions to pop up during
69 installation. As soon as I saw the questions I moved the installation
70 along, but do not know how long the question were holding up the
71 installation. I did some more measurements using Debian Edu Jessie,
72 and got these results. The time measured is the time stamp in
73 /var/log/syslog between the "pkgsel: starting tasksel" and the
74 "pkgsel: finishing up" lines, if you want to do the same measurement
75 yourself. In Debian Edu, the tasksel dialog do not show up, and the
76 timing thus do not depend on how quickly the user handle the tasksel
82 <th>Machine/setup
</th>
83 <th>Original tasksel
</th>
84 <th>Optimised tasksel
</th>
89 <td>Latitude D505 Main+LTSP LXDE
</td>
90 <td>64 min (
07:
46-
08:
50)
</td>
91 <td><44 min (
11:
27-
12:
11)
</td>
96 <td>Latitude D505 Roaming LXDE
</td>
97 <td>57 min (
08:
48-
09:
45)
</td>
98 <td>34 min (
07:
43-
08:
17)
</td>
103 <td>Latitude D505 Minimal
</td>
104 <td>22 min (
10:
37-
10:
59)
</td>
105 <td>11 min (
11:
16-
11:
27)
</td>
110 <td>Thinkpad X200 Minimal
</td>
111 <td>6 min (
08:
19-
08:
25)
</td>
112 <td>4 min (
08:
04-
08:
08)
</td>
117 <td>Thinkpad X200 Roaming KDE
</td>
118 <td>19 min (
09:
21-
09:
40)
</td>
119 <td>15 min (
10:
25-
10:
40)
</td>
125 <p>The test is done using a netinst ISO on a USB stick, so some of the
126 time is spent downloading packages. The connection to the Internet
127 was
100Mbit/s during testing, so downloading should not be a
128 significant factor in the measurement. Download typically took a few
129 seconds to a few minutes, depending on the amount of packages being
132 <p>The speedup is implemented by using two hooks in
133 <a href=
"https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/">Debian
134 Installer
</a>, the pre-pkgsel.d hook to set up the diverts, and the
135 finish-install.d hook to remove the divert at the end of the
136 installation. I picked the pre-pkgsel.d hook instead of the
137 post-base-installer.d hook because I test using an ISO without the
138 eatmydata package included, and the post-base-installer.d hook in
139 Debian Edu can only operate on packages included in the ISO. The
140 negative effect of this is that I am unable to activate this
141 optimization for the kernel installation step in d-i. If the code is
142 moved to the post-base-installer.d hook, the speedup would be larger
143 for the entire installation.
</p>
145 <p>I've implemented this in the
146 <a href=
"https://packages.qa.debian.org/debian-edu-install">debian-edu-install
</a>
147 git repository, and plan to provide the optimization as part of the
148 Debian Edu installation. If you want to test this yourself, you can
149 create two files in the installer (or in an udeb). One shell script
150 need do go into /usr/lib/pre-pkgsel.d/, with content like this:
</p>
155 . /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
157 logger -t my-pkgsel "info: $*"
160 logger -t my-pkgsel "error: $*"
163 apt-install eatmydata || true
164 if [ -x /target/usr/bin/eatmydata ] ; then
165 for bin in dpkg apt-get aptitude tasksel ; do
167 # Test that the file exist and have not been diverted already.
168 if [ -f /target$file ] ; then
169 info "diverting $file using eatmydata"
170 printf "#!/bin/sh\neatmydata $bin.distrib \"\$@\"\n" \
172 chmod
755 /target$file.edu
173 in-target dpkg-divert --package debian-edu-config \
174 --rename --quiet --add $file
175 ln -sf ./$bin.edu /target$file
177 error "unable to divert $file, as it is missing."
181 error "unable to find /usr/bin/eatmydata after installing the eatmydata pacage"
186 </pre></blockquote></p>
188 <p>To clean up, another shell script should go into
189 /usr/lib/finish-install.d/ with code like this:
193 . /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
195 logger -t my-finish-install "error: $@"
197 remove_install_override() {
198 for bin in dpkg apt-get aptitude tasksel ; do
200 if [ -x /target$file.edu ] ; then
202 in-target dpkg-divert --package debian-edu-config \
203 --rename --quiet --remove $file
206 error "Missing divert for $file."
209 sync # Flush file buffers before continuing
212 remove_install_override
213 </pre></blockquote></p>
215 <p>In Debian Edu, I placed both code fragments in a separate script
216 edu-eatmydata-install and call it from the pre-pkgsel.d and
217 finish-install.d scripts.
</p>
219 <p>By now you might ask if this change should get into the normal
220 Debian installer too? I suspect it should, but am not sure the
221 current debian-installer coordinators find it useful enough. It also
222 depend on the side effects of the change. I'm not aware of any, but I
223 guess we will see if the change is safe after some more testing.
224 Perhaps there is some package in Debian depending on sync() and
225 fsync() having effect? Perhaps it should go into its own udeb, to
226 allow those of us wanting to enable it to do so without affecting
229 <p>Update
2014-
09-
24: Since a few days ago, enabling this optimization
230 will break installation of all programs using gnutls because of
231 <a href=
"https://bugs.debian.org/702711">bug #
702711. An updated
232 eatmydata package in Debian will solve it.
</p>
238 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
243 <div class=
"padding"></div>
247 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Bernd_Zeitzen.html">Debian Edu interview: Bernd Zeitzen
</a>
253 <p>The complete and free “out of the box” software solution for
254 schools,
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu /
255 Skolelinux
</a>, is used quite a lot in Germany, and one of the people
256 involved is Bernd Zeitzen, who show up on the project mailing lists
257 from time to time with interesting questions and tips on how to adjust
258 the setup. I managed to interview him this summer.
</p>
260 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
262 <p>My name is Bernd Zeitzen and I'm married with Hedda, a self
263 employed physiotherapist. My former profession is tool maker, but I
264 haven't worked for
30 years in this job.
30 years ago I started to
265 support my wife and become her officeworker and a few years later the
266 administrator for a small computer network, today based on Ubuntu
267 Server (Samba, OpenVPN). For her daily work she has to use Windows
268 Desktops because the software she needs to organize her business only
269 works with Windows . :-(
</p>
271 <p>In
1988 we started with one PC and DOS, then I learned to use
272 Windows
98,
2000, XP, …,
8, Ubuntu, MacOSX. Today we are running a
273 Linux server with
6 Windows clients and
10 persons (teacher of
274 children with special needs, speech therapist, occupational therapist,
275 psychologist and officeworkers) using our Samba shares via OpenVPN to
276 work with the documentations of our patients.
</p>
278 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
279 project?
</strong></p>
281 <p>Two years ago a friend of mine asked me, if I want to get a job in
282 his school (
<a href=
"http://www.gymnasium-harsewinkel.de/">Gymnasium
283 Harsewinkel
</a>). They started with Skolelinux / Debian Edu and they
284 were looking for people to give support to the teachers using the
285 software and the network and teaching the pupils increasing their
286 computer skills in optional lessons. I'm spending
4-
6 hours a week
289 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
292 <p>The independence.
</p>
294 <p>First: Every person is allowed to use, share and develop the
295 software. Even if you are poor, you are allowed to use the software
296 included in Skolelinux/Debian Edu and all the other Free Software.
</p>
298 <p>Second: The software runs on old machines and this gives us the
299 possibility to recycle computers, weeded out from offices. The
300 servers and desktops are running for more than two years and they are
301 working reliable.
</p>
303 <p>We have two servers (one tjener and one terminal server),
45
304 workstations in three classrooms and seven laptops as a mobile
305 solution for all classrooms. These machines are all booting from the
306 terminal server. In the moment we are installing
30 laptops as mobile
307 workstations. Then the pupils have the possibility to work with these
308 machines in their classrooms. Internet access is realized by a WLAN
309 router, connected to the schools network. This is all done without a
310 dedicated system administrator or a computer science teacher.
</p>
312 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
315 <p>Teachers and pupils are Windows users.
<Irony on
> And Linux
316 isn't cool. It's software for freaks using the command line.
<Irony
317 off
> They don't realize the stability of the system.
</p>
319 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
321 <p>Firefox, Thunderbird, LibreOffice, Ubuntu Server
12.04 (Samba,
322 Apache, MySQL, Joomla!, … and Skolelinux / Debian Edu)
</p>
324 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
325 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
327 <p>In Germany we have the situation: every school is free to decide
328 which software they want to use. This decision is influenced by
329 teachers who learned to use Windows and MS Office. They buy a PC with
330 Windows preinstalled and an additional testing version of MS
331 Office. They don't know about the possibility to use Free Software
332 instead. Another problem are the publisher of school books. They
333 develop their software, added to the school books, for Windows.
</p>
339 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
344 <div class=
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348 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/From_English_wiki_to_translated_PDF_and_epub_via_Docbook.html">From English wiki to translated PDF and epub via Docbook
</a>
354 <p>The
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
355 project
</a> provide an instruction manual for teachers, system
356 administrators and other users that contain useful tips for setting up
357 and maintaining a Debian Edu installation. This text is about how the
358 text processing of this manual is handled in the project.
</p>
360 <p>One goal of the project is to provide information in the native
361 language of its users, and for this we need to handle translations.
362 But we also want to make sure each language contain the same
363 information, so for this we need a good way to keep the translations
364 in sync. And we want it to be easy for our users to improve the
365 documentation, avoiding the need to learn special formats or tools to
366 contribute, and the obvious way to do this is to make it possible to
367 edit the documentation using a web browser. We also want it to be
368 easy for translators to keep the translation up to date, and give them
369 help in figuring out what need to be translated. Here is the list of
370 tools and the process we have found trying to reach all these
373 <p>We maintain the authoritative source of our manual in the
374 <a href=
"https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Wheezy/">Debian
375 wiki
</a>, as several wiki pages written in English. It consist of one
376 front page with references to the different chapters, several pages
377 for each chapter, and finally one "collection page" gluing all the
378 chapters together into one large web page (aka
379 <a href=
"https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Wheezy/AllInOne">the
380 AllInOne page
</a>). The AllInOne page is the one used for further
381 processing and translations. Thanks to the fact that the
382 <a href=
"http://moinmo.in/">MoinMoin
</a> installation on
383 wiki.debian.org support exporting pages in
384 <a href=
"http://www.docbook.org/">the Docbook format
</a>, we can fetch
385 the list of pages to export using the raw version of the AllInOne
386 page, loop over each of them to generate a Docbook XML version of the
387 manual. This process also download images and transform image
388 references to use the locally downloaded images. The generated
389 Docbook XML files are slightly broken, so some post-processing is done
390 using the
<tt>documentation/scripts/get_manual
</tt> program, and the
391 result is a nice Docbook XML file (debian-edu-wheezy-manual.xml) and
392 a handfull of images. The XML file can now be used to generate PDF, HTML
393 and epub versions of the English manual. This is the basic step of
394 our process, making PDF (using dblatex), HTML (using xsltproc) and
395 epub (using dbtoepub) version from Docbook XML, and the resulting files
396 are placed in the debian-edu-doc-en binary package.
</p>
398 <p>But English documentation is not enough for us. We want translated
399 documentation too, and we want to make it easy for translators to
400 track the English original. For this we use the
401 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/poxml.html">poxml
</a> package,
402 which allow us to transform the English Docbook XML file into a
403 translation file (a .pot file), usable with the normal gettext based
404 translation tools used by those translating free software. The pot
405 file is used to create and maintain translation files (several .po
406 files), which the translations update with the native language
407 translations of all titles, paragraphs and blocks of text in the
408 original. The next step is combining the original English Docbook XML
409 and the translation file (say debian-edu-wheezy-manual.nb.po), to
410 create a translated Docbook XML file (in this case
411 debian-edu-wheezy-manual.nb.xml). This translated (or partly
412 translated, if the translation is not complete) Docbook XML file can
413 then be used like the original to create a PDF, HTML and epub version
414 of the documentation.
</p>
416 <p>The translators use different tools to edit the .po files. We
418 <a href=
"http://www.kde.org/applications/development/lokalize/">lokalize
</a>,
419 while some use emacs and vi, others can use web based editors like
420 <a href=
"http://pootle.translatehouse.org/">Poodle
</a> or
421 <a href=
"https://www.transifex.com/">Transifex
</a>. All we care about
422 is where the .po file end up, in our git repository. Updated
423 translations can either be committed directly to git, or submitted as
424 <a href=
"https://bugs.debian.org/src:debian-edu-doc">bug reports
425 against the debian-edu-doc package
</a>.
</p>
427 <p>One challenge is images, which both might need to be translated (if
428 they show translated user applications), and are needed in different
429 formats when creating PDF and HTML versions (epub is a HTML version in
430 this regard). For this we transform the original PNG images to the
431 needed density and format during build, and have a way to provide
432 translated images by storing translated versions in
433 images/$LANGUAGECODE/. I am a bit unsure about the details here. The
434 package maintainers know more.
</p>
436 <p>If you wonder what the result look like, we provide
437 <a href=
"http://maintainer.skolelinux.org/debian-edu-doc/">the content
438 of the documentation packages on the web
</a>. See for example the
439 <a href=
"http://maintainer.skolelinux.org/debian-edu-doc/it/debian-edu-wheezy-manual.pdf">Italian
440 PDF version
</a> or the
441 <a href=
"http://maintainer.skolelinux.org/debian-edu-doc/de/debian-edu-wheezy-manual.html">German
442 HTML version
</a>. We do not yet build the epub version by default,
443 but perhaps it will be done in the future.
</p>
445 <p>To learn more, check out
446 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/debian-edu-doc.html">the
447 debian-edu-doc package
</a>,
448 <a href=
"https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Wheezy/">the
449 manual on the wiki
</a> and
450 <a href=
"https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Wheezy/Translations">the
451 translation instructions
</a> in the manual.
</p>
457 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/docbook">docbook
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
462 <div class=
"padding"></div>
466 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Roger_Marsal.html">Debian Edu interview: Roger Marsal
</a>
472 <p><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a>
473 keep gaining new users. Some weeks ago, a person showed up on IRC,
474 <a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/#debian-edu">#debian-edu
</a>, with a
475 wish to contribute, and I managed to get a interview with this great
476 contributor Roger Marsal to learn more about his background.
</p>
478 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
480 <p>My name is Roger Marsal, I'm
27 years old (
1986 generation) and I
481 live in Barcelona, Spain. I've got a strong business background and I
482 work as a patrimony manager and as a real estate agent. Additionally,
483 I've co-founded a British based tech company that is nowadays on the
484 last development phase of a new social networking concept.
</p>
486 <p>I'm a Linux enthusiast that started its journey with Ubuntu four years
487 ago and have recently switched to Debian seeking rock solid stability
488 and as a necessary step to gain expertise.
</p>
490 <p>In a nutshell, I spend my days working and learning as much as I
491 can to face both my job, entrepreneur project and feed my Linux
494 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
495 project?
</strong></p>
497 <p>I discovered the
<a href=
"http://www.ltsp.org/">LTSP
</a> advantages
498 with "Ubuntu
12.04 alternate install" and after a year of use I
499 started looking for an alternative. Even though I highly value and
500 respect the Ubuntu project, I thought it was necessary for me to
501 change to a more robust and stable alternative. As far as I was using
502 Debian on my personal laptop I thought it would be fine to install
503 Debian and configure an LTSP server myself. Surprised, I discovered
504 that the Debian project also supported a kind of Edubuntu equivalent,
505 and after having some pain I obtained a Debian Edu network up and
506 running. I just loved it.
</p>
508 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
511 <p>I found a main advantage in that, once you know "the tips and
512 tricks", a new installation just works out of the box. It's the most
513 complete alternative I've found to create an LTSP network. All the
514 other distributions seems to be made of plastic, Debian Edu seems to
515 be made of steel.
</p>
517 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
520 <p>I found two main disadvantages.
</p>
522 <p>I'm not an expert but I've got notions and I had to spent a considerable
523 amount of time trying to bring up a standard network topology. I'm quite
524 stubborn and I just worked until I did but I'm sure many people with few
525 resources (not big schools, but academies for example) would have switched
528 <p>It's amazing how such a complex system like Debian Edu has achieved
529 this out-of-the-box state. Even though tweaking without breaking gets
530 more difficult, as more factors have to be considered. This can
531 discourage many people too.
</p>
533 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
535 <p>I use Debian, Firefox, Okular, Inkscape, LibreOffice and
539 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
540 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
542 <p>I don't think there is a need for a particular strategy. The free
543 attribute in both "freedom" and "no price" meanings is what will
544 really bring free software to schools. In my experience I can think of
545 the
<a href=
"http://www.r-project.org/">"R" statistical language
</a>; a
546 few years a ago was an extremely nerd tool for university people.
547 Today it's being increasingly used to teach statistics at many
548 different level of studies. I believe free and open software will
549 increasingly gain popularity, but I'm sure schools will be one of the
550 first scenarios where this will happen.
</p>
556 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
561 <div class=
"padding"></div>
565 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/How_to_add_extra_storage_servers_in_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux.html">How to add extra storage servers in Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a>
571 <p>On larger sites, it is useful to use a dedicated storage server for
572 storing user home directories and data. The design for handling this
573 in
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a>, is
574 to update the automount rules in LDAP and let the automount daemon on
575 the clients take care of the rest. I was reminded about the need to
576 document this better when one of the customers of
577 <a href=
"http://www.slxdrift.no/">Skolelinux Drift AS
</a>, where I am
578 on the board of directors, asked about how to do this. The steps to
579 get this working are the following:
</p>
583 <li>Add new storage server in DNS. I use nas-server.intern as the
584 example host here.
</li>
586 <li>Add automoun LDAP information about this server in LDAP, to allow
587 all clients to automatically mount it on reqeust.
</li>
589 <li>Add the relevant entries in tjener.intern:/etc/fstab, because
590 tjener.intern do not use automount to avoid mounting loops.
</li>
594 <p>DNS entries are added in GOsa², and not described here. Follow the
595 <a href=
"https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Wheezy/GettingStarted">instructions
596 in the manual
</a> (Machine Management with GOsa² in section Getting
599 <p>Ensure that the NFS export points on the server are exported to the
600 relevant subnets or machines:
</p>
603 root@tjener:~# showmount -e nas-server
604 Export list for nas-server:
607 </pre></blockquote></p>
609 <p>Here everything on the backbone network is granted access to the
610 /storage export. With NFSv3 it is slightly better to limit it to
611 netgroup membership or single IP addresses to have some limits on the
614 <p>The next step is to update LDAP. This can not be done using GOsa²,
615 because it lack a module for automount. Instead, use ldapvi and add
616 the required LDAP objects using an editor.
</p>
619 ldapvi --ldap-conf -ZD '(cn=admin)' -b ou=automount,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
620 </pre></blockquote></p>
622 <p>When the editor show up, add the following LDAP objects at the
623 bottom of the document. The "/&" part in the last LDAP object is a
624 wild card matching everything the nas-server exports, removing the
625 need to list individual mount points in LDAP.
</p>
628 add cn=nas-server,ou=auto.skole,ou=automount,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
629 objectClass: automount
631 automountInformation: -fstype=autofs --timeout=
60 ldap:ou=auto.nas-server,ou=automount,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
633 add ou=auto.nas-server,ou=automount,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
635 objectClass: automountMap
638 add cn=/,ou=auto.nas-server,ou=automount,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
639 objectClass: automount
641 automountInformation: -fstype=nfs,tcp,rsize=
32768,wsize=
32768,rw,intr,hard,nodev,nosuid,noatime nas-server.intern:/&
642 </pre></blockquote></p>
644 <p>The last step to remember is to mount the relevant mount points in
645 tjener.intern by adding them to /etc/fstab, creating the mount
646 directories using mkdir and running "mount -a" to mount them.
</p>
648 <p>When this is done, your users should be able to access the files on
649 the storage server directly by just visiting the
650 /tjener/nas-server/storage/ directory using any application on any
651 workstation, LTSP client or LTSP server.
</p>
657 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap
</a>.
662 <div class=
"padding"></div>
666 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Dominik_George.html">Debian Edu interview: Dominik George
</a>
672 <p>The
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
673 project
</a> consist of both newcomers and old timers, and this time I
674 was able to get an interview with a newcomer in the project who showed
675 up on the IRC channel a few weeks ago to let us know about his
676 successful installation of Debian Edu Wheezy in his School. Say hello
677 to
<a href=
"https://www.ohloh.net/accounts/Natureshadow">Dominik
680 <!-- http://www.dominik-george.de/images/foto.jpg -->
682 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
684 <p>I am a
23 year-old student from Germany who has spent half of his
685 life with open source. In "real life", I am, as already mentioned, a
686 student in the fields of Computer Science, Electrical Engineering,
687 Information Technologies and Anglistics. Due to my (only partially
688 voluntary) huge engagement in the open source world, these things are
689 a bit vacant right now however.
</p>
691 <p>I also have been working as a project teacher at a Gymasnium
692 (public school) for various years now. I took up that work some time
693 around
2005 when still attending that school myself and have continued
694 it until today. I also had been running the (kind of very advanced)
695 network of that school together with a team of very interested and
696 talented students in the age of
11 to
15 years, who took the chance to
697 learn a lot about open source and networking before I left the school
698 to help building another school's informational education concept from
701 <p>That said, one might see me as a kind of "glue" between school kids
702 and the elderly of teachers as well as between the open source
703 ecosystem and the (even more complex) educational ecosystem.
</p>
705 <p>When I am not busy with open source or education, I like Geocaching
708 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
709 project?
</strong></p>
711 <p>I think that happened some time around
2009 when I first attended
712 <a href=
"http://www.froscon.org">FrOSCon
</a> and visited the project
713 booth. I think I wasn't too interested back then because I used to
714 have an attitude of disliking software that does too much stuff on its
715 own. Maybe I was too inexperienced to realise the upsides of an
716 "out-of-the-box" solution ;).
</p>
718 <p>The first time I actively talked to Skolelinux people was at
719 <a href=
"http://www.openrheinruhr.de">OpenRheinRuhr
</a> 2011 when the
720 BiscuIT project, a home-grewn software used by my school for various
721 really cool things from timetables and class contact lists to lunch
722 ordering, student ID card printing and project elections first got to
723 a stage where it could have been published. I asked the Skolelinux
724 guys running the booth if the project were interested in it and gave a
725 small demonstration, but there wasn't any real feedback and the guys
726 seemed rather uninterested.
</p>
728 <p>After I left the school where I developed the software, it got
729 mostly lost, but I am now reimplementing it for my new school. I have
730 reusability and compatibility in mind, and I hop there will be a new
731 basis for contributing it to the Skolelinux project ;)!
</p>
733 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
736 <p>The most important advantage seems to be that it "just
737 works". After overcoming some minor (but still very annoying) glitches
738 in the installer, I got a fully functional, working school network,
739 without the month-long hassle I experienced when setting all that up
740 from scratch in earlier years. And above that, it rocked - I didn't
741 have any real hardware at hand, because the school was just founded
742 and has no money whatsoever, so I installed a combined server (main
743 server, terminal services and workstation) in a VM on my personal
744 notebook, bridging the LTSP network interface to the ethernet port,
745 and then PXE-booted the Windows notebooks that were lying around from
746 it. I could use
8 clients without any performance issues, by using a
747 tiny little VM on a tiny little notebook. I think that's enough to say
750 <p>Secondly, there are marketing reasons. Life's bad, and so no
751 politician will ever permit a setup described as "Debian, an universal
752 operating system, with some really cool educational tools" while they
753 will be jsut fine with "Skolelinux, a single-purpose solution for your
754 school network", even if both turn out to be the very same thing (yes,
755 this is unfair towards the Skolelinux project, and must not be taken
756 too seriously - you get the idea, anyway).
</p>
758 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
761 <p>I have not been involved with Skolelinux long enough to really
762 answer this question in a fair way. Thus, please allow me to put it in
763 other words: "What do you expect from Skolelinux to keep liking it?" I
764 can list a few points about that:
</p>
768 <li>always strive to get all things integrated into Debian upstream
769 <li>be open to discussion about changes and the like, even with newcomers
770 <li>be helpful at being helpful ;)
774 <p>I'm really sorry I cannot say much more about that :(!
</p>
776 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
778 <p>First of all, all software I use is free and open. I have abandoned
779 all non-free software (except for firmware on my darned phone) this
782 <p>I run Debian GNU/Linux on all PC systems I use. On that, I mostly
783 run text tools. I use
784 <a href=
"https://www.mirbsd.org/mksh.htm">mksh
</a> as shell,
785 <a href=
"https://www.mirbsd.org/jupp.htm">jupp
</a> as very advanced
786 text editor (I even got the developer to help me write a script/macro
787 based full-featured student management software with the two),
788 <a href=
"http://mcabber.com/">mcabber
</a> for XMPP and
789 <a href=
"http://www.irssi.org/">irssi
</a> for IRC. For that overly
790 coloured world called the WWW, I use
791 <a href=
"https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/">Iceweasel
792 (Firefox)
</a>. Oh, and
<a href=
"http://www.mutt.org/">mutt
</a> for
795 <p>However, while I am personally aware of the fact that text tools
796 are more efficient and powerful than anything else, I also use (or at
797 least operate) some tools that are suitable to bring open source to
798 kids. One of these things is
<a href=
"http://jappix.org/">Jappix
</a>,
799 which I already introduced to some kids even before they got aware of
800 Facebook, making them see for themselves that they do not need
803 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
804 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
806 <p>Well, that's a two-sided thing. One side is what I believe, and one
807 side is what I have experienced.
</p>
809 <p>I believe that the right strategy is showing them the benefits. But
810 that won't work out as long as the acceptance of free alternatives
811 grows globally. What I mean is that if all the kids are almost forced
812 to use Windows, Facebook, Skype, you name it at home, they will not
813 see why they would want to use alternatives at school. I have seen
814 students take seat in front of a fully-functional, modern Debian
815 desktop that could do anything their Windows at home could do, and
816 they jsut refused to use it because "Linux sucks". It is something
817 that makes the council of our city spend around
600000 € to buy
818 software - not including hardware, mind you - for operating school
819 networks, and for installing a system that, as has been proved, does
820 not work. For those of you readers who are good at maths, have you
821 already found out how many lives could have been saved with that money
822 if we had instead used it to bring education to parts of the world
823 that need it? I have, and found it to be nothing less dramatic than
826 <p>That said, the only feasible way appears to be the bottom up
827 method. We have to bring free software to kids and parents. I have
828 founded an association named
829 <a href=
"https://www.teckids.org">Teckids
</a> here in Germany that does
830 just that. We organise several events for kids and adolescents in the
831 area of free and open source software, for example the
832 <a href=
"http://kids.froscon.org">FrogLabs
</a>, which share staff with
833 Teckids and are the youth programme of
834 <a href=
"http://www.froscon.org">the Free and Open Source Software
835 Conference (FrOSCon)
</a>. We do a lot more than most other conferences
836 - this year, we first offered the FrogLabs as a holiday camp for kids
837 aged
10 to
16. It was a huge success, with approx.
30 kids taking part
838 and learning with and about free software through a whole weekend. All
839 of us had a lot of fun, and the results were really exciting.
</p>
841 <p>Apart from that, we are preparing a campaign that is supposed to bring
842 the message of free alternatives to stuff kids use every day to them and
843 their parents, e.g. the use of Jabber / Jappix instead of Facebook and
844 Skype. To make that possible, we are planning to get together a team of
845 clever kids who understand very well what their peers need and can bring
846 it across to them. So we will have a peer-driven network of adolescents
847 who teach each other and collect feedback from the community of minors.
848 We then take that feedback and our own experience to work closely with
849 open source projects, such as Skolelinux or Jappix, at improving their
850 software in a way that makes it more and more attractive for the target
851 group. At least I hope that we will have good cooperation with
852 Skolelinux in the future ;)!
</p>
854 <p>So in conclusion, what I believe is that, if it weren't for the world
855 being so bad, it should be very clear to the political decision makers
856 that the only way to go nowadays is free software for various reasons,
857 but I have learnt that the only way that seems to work is bottom up.
</p>
861 > * Who should be interviewed with this questions in the future?
863 That's probably the hardest question of them all, as I do not know the
864 community. However, I would be willing to do the following:
866 <li>Run an interview with a German headteacher who is very open to
867 free software, and also prefers it, but cannot really use it because
868 of the decision makers above;
869 <li>Run interviews with some kids, both with and without previous
870 knowledge about free software
872 If that is wanted, just let me know ;).
880 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
885 <div class=
"padding"></div>
889 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Klaus_Knopper.html">Debian Edu interview: Klaus Knopper
</a>
895 <p>It has been a while since I managed to publish the last interview,
896 but the
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu /
897 Skolelinux
</a> community is still going strong, and yesterday we even
898 had a new school administrator show up on
899 <a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/#debian-edu">#debian-edu
</a> to share
900 his success story with installing Debian Edu at their school. This
901 time I have been able to get some helpful comments from the creator of
902 Knoppix, Klaus Knopper, who was involved in a Skolelinux project in
903 Germany a few years ago.
</p>
905 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
907 <p>I am Klaus Knopper. I have a master degree in electrical
908 engineering, and is currently professor in information management at
909 the university of applied sciences Kaiserslautern / Germany and
910 freelance Open Source software developer and consultant.
</p>
912 <p>All of this is pretty much of the work I spend my days with. Apart
913 from teaching, I'm also conducting some more or less experimental
914 projects like the
<a href=
"http://www.knoppix.org">Knoppix GNU/Linux live
915 system
</a> (Debian-based like Skolelinux),
916 <a href=
"http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-adriane/index-en.html">ADRIANE
</a>
917 (a blind-friendly talking desktop system) and
918 <a href=
"http://www.knopper.net/linbo/index-en.html">LINBO
</a>
919 (Linux-based network boot console, a fast remote install and repair
920 system supporting various operating systems).
</p>
922 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
923 project?
</strong></p>
925 <p>The credit for this have to go to Kurt Gramlich, who is the German
926 coordinator for Skolelinux. We were looking for an all-in-one open
927 source community-supported distribution for schools, and Kurt
928 introduced us to Skolelinux for this purpose.
</p>
930 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
934 <li>Quick installation,
</li>
935 <li>works (almost) out of the box,
</li>
936 <li>contains many useful software packages for teaching and learning,
</li>
937 <li>is a purely community-based distro and not controlled by a
939 <li>has a large number of supporters and teachers who share their
940 experience and problem solutions.
</li>
943 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
947 <li>Skolelinux is - as we had to learn - not easily upgradable to
948 the next version. Opposed to its genuine Debian base, upgrading to
949 a new version means a full new installation from scratch to get it
950 working again reliably.
952 <li>Skolelinux is based on Debian/stable, and therefore always a
953 little outdated in terms of program versions compared to Edubuntu or
954 similar educational Linux distros, which rather use Debian/testing
957 <li>Skolelinux has some very self-opinionated and stubborn default
958 configuration which in my opinion adds unnecessary complexity and is
959 not always suitable for a schools needs, the preset network
960 configuration is actually a core definition feature of Skolelinux
961 and not easy to change, so schools sometimes have to change their
962 network configuration to make it "Skolelinux-compatible".
964 <li>Some proposed extensions, which were made available as
965 contribution, like secure examination mode and lecture material
966 distribution and collection, were not accepted into the mainline
967 Skolelinux development and are now not easy to maintain in the
968 future because of Skolelinux somewhat undeterministic update
971 <li>Skolelinux has only a very tiny number of base developers
972 compared to Debian.
</li>
976 <p>For these reasons and experience from our project, I would now
977 rather consider using plain Debian for schools next time, until
978 Skolelinux is more closely integrated into Debian and becomes
979 upgradeable without reinstallation.
</p>
981 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
983 <p>GNU/Linux with LXDE desktop, bash for interactive dialog and
984 programming, texlive for documentation and correspondence,
985 occasionally LibreOffice for document format conversion. Various
986 programming languages for teaching.
</p>
988 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
989 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
991 <p>Strong arguments are
</p>
995 <li>Knowledge is free, and so should be methods and tools for
996 teaching and learning.
</li>
998 <li>Students can learn with and use the same software at school, at
999 home, and at their working place without running into license or
1000 conversion problems.
</li>
1002 <li>Closed source or proprietary software hides knowledge rather
1003 than exposing it, and proprietary software vendors try to bind
1004 customers to certain products. But teachers need to teach
1005 science, not products.
</li>
1007 <li>If you have everything you for daily work as open source, what
1008 would you need proprietary software for?
</li>
1016 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
1021 <div class=
"padding"></div>
1025 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux___Debian_Edu_7_1_install_and_overview_video_from_Marcelo_Salvador.html">Skolelinux / Debian Edu
7.1 install and overview video from Marcelo Salvador
</a>
1031 <p>The other day I was pleased and surprised to discover that Marcelo
1032 Salvador had published a
1033 <a href=
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-GgpdqgLFc">video on
1034 Youtube
</a> showing how to install the standalone Debian Edu /
1035 Skolelinux profile. This is the profile intended for use at home or
1036 on laptops that should not be integrated into the provided network
1037 services (no central home directory, no Kerberos / LDAP directory etc,
1038 in other word a single user machine). The result is
11 minutes long,
1039 and show some user applications (seem to be rather randomly picked).
1040 Missed a few of my favorites like celestia, planets and chromium
1041 showing the
<a href=
"http://www.zygotebody.com/">Zygote Body
3D model
1042 of the human body
</a>, but I guess he did not know about those or find
1043 other programs more interesting. :) And the video do not show the
1044 advantages I believe is one of the most valuable featuers in Debian
1045 Edu, its central school server making it possible to run hundreds of
1046 computers without hard drives by installing one central
1047 <a href=
"http://www.ltsp.org/">LTSP server
</a>.
</p>
1049 <p>Anyway, check out the video, embedded below and linked to above:
</p>
1051 <iframe width=
"420" height=
"315" src=
"http://www.youtube.com/embed/w-GgpdqgLFc" frameborder=
"0" allowfullscreen
></iframe>
1053 <p>Are there other nice videos demonstrating Skolelinux? Please let
1060 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video
</a>.
1065 <div class=
"padding"></div>
1069 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Finally__Debian_Edu_Wheezy_is_released_today_.html">Finally, Debian Edu Wheezy is released today!
</a>
1075 <p>A few hours ago, the announcement for the first stable release of
1076 Debian Edu Wheezy went out from the Debian publicity team. The
1077 complete announcement text can be found at
1078 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/2013/20130928">the Debian News
1079 section
</a>, translated to several languages. Please check it out.
</p>
1081 <p>There is one minor known problem that we will fix very soon. One
1082 can not install a amd64 Thin Client Server using PXE, as the /var/
1083 partition is too small. A workaround is to extend the partition (use
1084 lvresize + resize2fs in tty
2 while installing).
</p>
1090 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
1095 <div class=
"padding"></div>
1099 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Third_and_probably_last_beta_release_of_Debian_Edu_Wheezy.html">Third and probably last beta release of Debian Edu Wheezy
</a>
1105 <p>The third wheezy based beta release of Debian Edu was wrapped up
1106 today. This is the release announcement from Holger Levsen:
</p>
1111 <p>it is my pleasure to announce the third beta release (beta
2 for
1112 short) of
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu /
1113 Skolelinux
</a> based on Debian Wheezy!
</p>
1115 <p>Please test these images extensivly, if no new problems are found
1116 we plan to do this final Debian Edu Wheezy release this coming
1117 weekend. We are not aware of any major problems or blockers in beta2,
1118 if you find something, please notify us immediately!
</p>
1120 <p>(More about the remaining steps for the Edu Wheezy release in
1121 another mail to the edu list tonight or tomorrow...)
</p>
1123 <p>Noteworthy changes and software updates for Debian Edu
7.1+edu0~b2
1124 compared to beta1:
</p>
1128 <li>The KDE proxy setup has been adjusted to use the provided wpad.dat. This
1129 also gets Chromium to use this proxy.
</li>
1130 <li>Install kdepim-groupware with KDE desktops to make sure korganizer
1131 understand ical/dav sources.
</li>
1132 <li>Increased default maximum size of /var/spool/squid and /skole/backup on the
1134 <li>A source DVD image containing all source packages is now available as well.
</li>
1135 <li>Updates for chromium (
29.0.1547.57-
1~deb7u1), imagemagick
1136 (
6.7.7.10-
5+deb7u2), php5 (
5.4.4-
14+deb7u4), libmodplug
1137 (
0.8.8.4-
3+deb7u1+git20130828), tiff (
4.0.2-
6+deb7u2), linux-image
1138 (
3.2.0-
4-
486_3.2
.46-
1+deb7u1).
</li>
1142 <p>Where to get it:
</p>
1144 <p>To download the multiarch netinstall CD release you can use
</p>
1147 <li><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.1+edu0~b2-CD.iso">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b2-CD.iso
</a></li>
1148 <li><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.1+edu0~b2-CD.iso">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b2-CD.iso
</a></li>
1149 <li>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b2-CD.iso .
</li>
1152 <p>The SHA1SUM of this image is:
3a1c89f4666df80eebcd46c5bf5fedb866f9472f
</p>
1154 <p>To download the multiarch USB stick ISO release you can use
1156 <li><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.1+edu0~b2-USB.iso">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b2-USB.iso
</a></li>
1157 <li><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.1+edu0~b2-USB.iso">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b2-USB.iso
</a></li>
1158 <li>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b2-USB.iso .
</li>
1161 <p>The SHA1SUM of this image is:
702d1718548f401c74bfa6df9f032cc3ee16597e
</p>
1163 <p>The Source DVD image has the filename
1164 debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b2-source-DVD.iso and the SHA1SUM
1165 089eed8b3f962db47aae1f6a9685e9bb2fa30ca5 and is available the same way
1166 as the other isos.
</p>
1168 <p>How to report bugs
</p>
1170 <p>For information how to report bugs please see
1171 <br><a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
</a></p>
1174 <p>About Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</p>
1176 <p>Debian Edu, also known as Skolelinux, is a Linux distribution based
1177 on Debian providing an out-of-the box environment of a completely
1178 configured school network. Immediately after installation a school
1179 server running all services needed for a school network is set up just
1180 waiting for users and machines being added via GOsa², a comfortable
1181 Web-UI. A netbooting environment is prepared using PXE, so after
1182 initial installation of the main server from CD or USB stick all other
1183 machines can be installed via the network. The provided school server
1184 provides LDAP database and Kerberos authentication service,
1185 centralized home directories, DHCP server, web proxy and many other
1186 services. The desktop contains more than
60 educational software
1187 packages and more are available from the Debian archive, and schools
1188 can choose between KDE, Gnome, LXDE and Xfce desktop environment.
</p>
1190 <p>This is the seventh test release based on Debian Wheezy. Basically
1191 this is an updated and slightly improved version compared to the
1192 Squeeze release.
</p>
1194 <p>Notes for upgrades from Alpha Prereleases
</p>
1196 <p>Alpha based installations should reinstall or downgrade the
1197 versions of gosa and libpam-mklocaluser to the ones used in this beta
1198 release. Both alpha and beta0 based installations should reinstall or
1199 deal with gosa.conf manually; there are two options: (
1) Keep
1200 gosa.conf and edit this file as outlined on the mailing list. (
2)
1201 Accept the new version of gosa.conf and replace both contained admin
1202 password placeholders with the password hashes found in the old one
1203 (backup copy!). In both cases all users need to change their password
1204 to make sure a password is set for CIFS access to their home
1216 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
1221 <div class=
"padding"></div>
1225 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Second_beta_release__beta_1__of_Debian_Edu_Skolelinux_based_on_Debian_Wheezy.html">Second beta release (beta
1) of Debian Edu/Skolelinux based on Debian Wheezy
</a>
1231 <p>The second wheezy based beta release of Debian Edu was wrapped up
1232 today, slightly delayed because of some bugs in the initial Windows
1233 integration fixes . This is the release announcement:
</p>
1235 <p><strong>New features for Debian Edu
7.1+edu0~b1 released
2013-
08-
22</strong></p>
1237 <p>These are the release notes for Debian Edu / Skolelinux
1238 7.1+edu0~b1, based on Debian with codename "Wheezy".
</p>
1240 <p><strong>About Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</strong></p>
1242 <p><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu, also known as
1243 Skolelinux
</a>, is a Linux distribution based on Debian providing an
1244 out-of-the box environment of a completely configured school
1245 network. Immediately after installation a school server running all
1246 services needed for a school network is set up just waiting for users
1247 and machines being added via GOsa², a comfortable Web-UI. A netbooting
1248 environment is prepared using PXE, so after initial installation of
1249 the main server from CD or USB stick all other machines can be
1250 installed via the network. The provided school server provides LDAP
1251 database and Kerberos authentication service, centralized home
1252 directories, DHCP server, web proxy and many other services. The
1254 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Educational_applications_included_in_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux__the_screenshot_collection____.html">more
1255 than
60 educational software packages
</a> and more are available from
1256 the Debian archive, and schools can choose between KDE, Gnome, LXDE
1257 and Xfce desktop environment.
</p>
1259 <p>This is the sixth test release based on Debian Wheezy. Basically this
1260 is an updated and slightly improved version compared to the Squeeze
1263 <p>ALERT: Alpha based installations should reinstall or downgrade the
1264 versions of gosa and libpam-mklocaluser to the ones used in this beta
1265 release. Both alpha and beta0 based installations should reinstall or
1266 deal with gosa.conf manually; there are two options: (
1) Keep
1267 gosa.conf and edit this file as outlined
1268 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2013/08/msg00127.html">on
1269 the mailing list
</a>. (
2) Accept the new version of gosa.conf and
1270 replace both contained admin password placeholders with the password
1271 hashes found in the old one (backup copy!). In both cases every user
1272 need to change their their password to make sure a password is set for
1273 CIFS access to their home directory.
</p>
1275 <p><strong>Software updates
</strong></p>
1279 <li>Added ssh askpass packages to default installation, to ensure ssh
1280 work also without a attached tty.
</li>
1281 <li>Add the command-not-found package to the default installation to
1282 make it easier to figure out where to find missing command line
1283 tools. Please note, that the command 'update-command-not-found'
1284 has to be run as root to actually make it useful (internet access
1289 <p><strong>Other changes
</strong></p>
1293 <li>Adjusted the USB stick ISO image build to include every tool
1294 needed for desktop=xfce installations.
</li>
1295 <li>Adjust thin-client-server task to work when installing from USB
1296 stick ISO image.
</li>
1297 <li>Made new grub artwork (changed png from indexed to RGB format).
</li>
1298 <li>Minor cleanup in the CUPS setup.
</li>
1299 <li>Make sure that bootstrapping of the Samba domain really happens
1300 during installation of the main server and adjust SID handling to
1301 cope with this.
</li>
1302 <li>Make Samba passwords changeable (again) via GOsa².
</li>
1303 <li>Fix generation of LM and NT password hashes via GOsa² to avoid
1304 empty password hashes.
</li>
1305 <li>Adapted Samba machine domain joining to latest change in the
1306 smbldap-tools Perl package, fixing bugs blocking Windows machines
1307 from joining the Samba domain.
</li>
1311 <p><strong>Known issues
</strong></p>
1315 <li>KDE fails to understand the wpad.dat file provided, causing it to
1316 not use the http proxy as it should.
</li>
1317 <li>Chromium also fails to use the proxy when using the KDE desktop
1318 (using the KDE configuration).
</li>
1322 <p><strong>Where to get it
</strong></p>
1324 <p>To download the multiarch netinstall CD release you can use
</p>
1328 <li><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.1+edu0~b1-CD.iso">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b1-CD.iso
</a></li>
1330 <li><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.1+edu0~b1-CD.iso">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b1-CD.iso
</a></li>
1332 <li>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b1-CD.iso .
</li>
1336 <p>The MD5SUM of this image is:
1e357f80b55e703523f2254adde6d78b
1337 <br>The SHA1SUM of this image is:
7157f9be5fd27c7694d713c6ecfed61c3edda3b2
</p>
1339 <p>To download the multiarch USB stick ISO release you can use
</p>
1343 <li><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.1+edu0~b1-USB.iso">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b1-USB.iso
</a></li>
1344 <li><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.1+edu0~b1-USB.iso">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b1-USB.iso
</a></li>
1345 <li>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b1-USB.iso .
</li>
1349 <p>The MD5SUM of this image is:
7a8408ead59cf7e3cef25afb6e91590b
1350 <br>The SHA1SUM of this image is: f1817c031f02790d5edb3bfa0dcf8451088ad119
</p>
1353 <p><strong>How to report bugs
</strong></p>
1355 <p><a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
</a>
1361 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
1366 <div class=
"padding"></div>
1370 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_beta_release_of_Debian_Edu_Skolelinux_based_on_Debian_Wheezy.html">First beta release of Debian Edu/Skolelinux based on Debian Wheezy
</a>
1376 <p>The first wheezy based beta release of Debian Edu was wrapped up
1377 today. This is the release announcement:
</p>
1379 <p><strong>New features for Debian Edu
7.1+edu0~b0 released
1380 2013-
07-
27</strong></p>
1382 <p>These are the release notes for for Debian Edu / Skolelinux
1383 7.1+edu0~b0, based on Debian with codename "Wheezy".
</p>
1385 <p><strong>About Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</strong></p>
1387 <p><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu, also known as
1388 Skolelinux
</a>, is a Linux distribution based on Debian providing an
1389 out-of-the box environment of a completely configured school
1390 network. Immediately after installation a school server running all
1391 services needed for a school network is set up just waiting for users
1392 and machines being added via GOsa², a comfortable Web-UI. A netbooting
1393 environment is prepared using PXE, so after initial installation of
1394 the main server from CD, DVD or USB stick all other machines can be
1395 installed via the network. The provided school server provides LDAP
1396 database and Kerberos authentication service, centralized home
1397 directories, DHCP server, web proxy and many other services. The
1399 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Educational_applications_included_in_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux__the_screenshot_collection____.html">more
1400 than
60 educational software packages
</a> and more are available from
1401 the Debian archive, and schools can choose between KDE, Gnome, LXDE
1402 and Xfce desktop environment.
</p>
1404 <p>This is the fifth test release based on Debian Wheezy. Basically
1405 this is an updated and slightly improved version compared to the
1406 Squeeze release.
</p>
1408 <p>ALERT: Alpha based installations should reinstall or downgrade the
1409 versions of gosa and libpam-mklocaluser to the ones used in this beta
1412 <p><strong>Software updates
</strong></p>
1416 <li>Switched roaming workstation profiles from wicd to network-manager
1417 for network configuration, as wicd didn't work any more.
</li>
1418 <li>Changed version numbers of patched gosa and libpam-mklocaluser
1419 packages to make sure our locally patched versions will be replaced
1420 by the official packages when they are released from Debian. Those
1421 installing alpha version need to reinstall or manually downgrade gosa
1422 and libpam-mklocaluser.
</li>
1423 <li>Added bluetooth tools to the default desktop (bluedevil, blueman).
</li>
1424 <li>Added tools for sharing the desktop on KDE (krdc, krfb).
</li>
1425 <li>Added valgrind to the default installation for easier debugging of
1430 <p><strong>Other changes
</strong></p>
1434 <li>Fixed artwork package to work with gnome, no longer break
1435 desktop=gnome installations.
</li>
1436 <li>Adjusted installer to now work when forced to use a proxy with the
1438 <li>Fixed code detecting and setting/loading hardware specific
1439 setup/firmware to work more robust out of the box.
</li>
1440 <li>Adjusted Kerberos setup to detect realm and server settings at
1441 install time instead of dynamically at run time. This avoid a crash
1442 with krb5-auth-dialog on diskless workstations without a DNS name.
</li>
1443 <li>Worked around misfeature in network-manager not calling the dhclient
1444 exit hooks, causing automatic proxy configuration and automatic host
1445 name setting at run time to work again.
</li>
1446 <li>Fixed feature setting the default Iceweasel start page from URL
1447 fetched from LDAP, to allow schools to set the global default by
1448 updating the dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no LDAP object.
</li>
1449 <li>Changed default host name on all networked machines to be unique
1450 (generated from MAC or reverse DNS) after boot.
</li>
1451 <li>Adjusted partition sizes to make sure they are big enough.
</li>
1455 <p><strong>Known issues
</strong></p>
1459 <li>Grub is missing the new artwork.
</li>
1460 <li>KDE fail to understand the wpad.dat file provided, causing it to
1461 not use the http proxy as it should.
</li>
1462 <li>Chromium also fail to use the proxy.
</li>
1466 <p><strong>Where to get it
</strong></p>
1468 <p>To download the multiarch netinstall CD release you can use
</p>
1472 <li><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.1+edu0~b0-CD.iso">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b0-CD.iso
</a></li>
1474 <li><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.1+edu0~b0-CD.iso">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b0-CD.iso
</a></li>
1476 <li>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b0-CD.iso .
</li>
1480 <p>The MD5SUM of this image is:
55d5de9765b6dccd5d9ec33cf1a07109
1481 <br>The SHA1SUM of this image is:
996a1d9517740e4d627d100de2d12b23dd545a3f
</p>
1483 <p>To download the multiarch USB stick ISO release you can use
</p>
1487 <li><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.1+edu0~b0-USB.iso">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b0-USB.iso
</a></li>
1488 <li><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.1+edu0~b0-USB.iso">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b0-USB.iso
</a></li>
1489 <li>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~b0-USB.iso .
</li>
1493 <p>The MD5SUM of this image is: d8f0818c51a78d357de794066f289f69
1494 <br>The SHA1SUM of this image is:
49185ca354e8d0543240423746924f76a6cee733
</p>
1497 <p><strong>How to report bugs
</strong></p>
1499 <p><a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
</a>
1505 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
1510 <div class=
"padding"></div>
1514 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/July_13th__Debian_Ubuntu_BSP_and_Skolelinux_Debian_Edu_developer_gathering_in_Oslo.html">July
13th: Debian/Ubuntu BSP and Skolelinux/Debian Edu developer gathering in Oslo
</a>
1520 <p>The upcoming Saturday,
2013-
07-
13, we are organising a combined
1521 Debian Edu developer gathering and Debian and Ubuntu bug squashing
1522 party in Oslo. It is organised by
<a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/">the
1523 member assosiation NUUG
</a> and
1524 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">the Debian Edu / Skolelinux
1525 project
</a> together with
<a href=
"http://bitraf.no/">the hack space
1528 <p>It starts
10:
00 and continue until late evening. Everyone is
1529 welcome, and there is no fee to participate. There is on the other
1530 hand limited space, and only room for
30 people. Please put your name
1531 on
<a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2013/07/13/no/Oslo">the event
1532 wiki page
</a> if you plan to join us.
</p>
1538 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
1543 <div class=
"padding"></div>
1547 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Fourth_alpha_release_of_Debian_Edu_Skolelinux_based_on_Debian_Wheezy.html">Fourth alpha release of Debian Edu/Skolelinux based on Debian Wheezy
</a>
1553 <p>The fourth wheezy based alpha release of Debian Edu was wrapped up
1554 today. This is the release announcement:
</p>
1556 <p><strong>New features for Debian Edu
7.1+edu0~alpha3 released
1557 2013-
07-
03</strong></p>
1559 <p>These are the release notes for for Debian Edu / Skolelinux
1560 7.1+edu0~alpha3, based on Debian with codename "Wheezy".
</p>
1562 <p><strong>About Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</strong></p>
1564 <p><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu, also known as
1565 Skolelinux
</a>, is a Linux distribution based on Debian providing an
1566 out-of-the box environment of a completely configured school
1567 network. Immediately after installation a school server running all
1568 services needed for a school network is set up just waiting for users
1569 and machines being added via GOsa², a comfortable Web-UI. A netbooting
1570 environment is prepared using PXE, so after initial installation of
1571 the main server from CD, DVD or USB stick all other machines can be
1572 installed via the network. The provided school server provides LDAP
1573 database and Kerberos authentication service, centralized home
1574 directories, DHCP server, web proxy and many other services. The
1576 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Educational_applications_included_in_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux__the_screenshot_collection____.html">more
1577 than
60 educational software packages
</a> and more are available from
1578 the Debian archive, and schools can choose between KDE, Gnome, LXDE
1579 and Xfce desktop environment.
</p>
1581 <p>This is the fourth test release based on Debian Wheezy. Basically
1582 this is an updated and slightly improved version compared to the
1583 Squeeze release.
</p>
1585 <p><strong>Software updates
</strong></p>
1587 <li>Dropped ispell dictionaries from our default installation.
</li>
1588 <li>Dropped menu-xdg from the KDE desktop option, to drop the Debian
1589 submenu. It was not included with Gnome, LXDE or Xfce, so this
1590 brings KDE in line with the others.
</li>
1591 <li>Dropped xdrawchem, xjig and xsok from our default installation as
1592 they don't have a desktop menu entry and thus won't show up in the
1593 menu now that menu-xdg was removed.
</li>
1594 <li>Removed the killer system to kill left behind processes on
1595 multi-user machines, as it was no longer able to understand when a
1596 X display was in use and killed the processes of the active users
1598 <li>Dropped the golearn (from goplay) package as the debtags in wheezy
1599 are too few to make the package useful.
</li>
1601 <p><strong>Other changes
</strong></p>
1603 <li>Updated artwork matching http://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes/Joy
1604 <li>Multi-arch i386/amd64 USB stick ISO available.
</li>
1605 <li>Got rid of ispell/wordlist related debconf questions that showed
1606 up for some language options.
</li>
1607 <li>Switched to using http.debian.net as APT source by default.
</li>
1608 <li>Fixed proxy configuration on Main Server installations.
</li>
1609 <li>Changed LTSP setup to ask dpkg to use force-unsafe-io the same way
1610 d-i is doing it.
</li>
1611 <li>Made sure root and user passwords were not left behind in the
1612 debconf database after installation on Main Server installations.
</li>
1613 <li>Made Roaming Workstation dynamic setup more robust and added draft
1614 script setup-ad-client to hook a Roaming Workstation up to a
1615 Active Directory server instead of a Debian Edu Main Server.
</li>
1616 <li>Update system to install needed firmware packages during
1617 installation, to work properly in Wheezy.
</li>
1618 <li>Update system to handle hardware quirks (debian-edu-hwsetup).
</li>
1619 <li>Corrected PXE installation setup to properly pass selected desktop
1620 and keymap settings to PXE installation clients.
</li>
1621 <li>LTSP diskless workstations use sshfs by default, allowing them to
1622 work without adding them to DNS and NIS netgroups for NFS access.
</li>
1624 <p><strong>Known issues
</strong></p>
1626 <li>No mass import of user account data in GOsa (ldif or csv)
1627 available yet (
698840).
</li>
1628 <li>Artwork not enabled for all desktops.
</li>
1630 <p><strong>Where to get it
</strong></p>
1632 <p>To download the multiarch netinstall CD release you can use
</p>
1634 <li><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.1+edu0~a3-CD.iso">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-CD.iso
</a></li>
1635 <li><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.1+edu0~a3-CD.iso">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-CD.iso
</a></li>
1636 <li>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-CD.iso .
</li>
1639 <p>The MD5SUM of this image is:
2b161a99d2a848c376d8d04e3854e30c
1640 <br>The SHA1SUM of this image is:
498922e9c508c0a7ee9dbe1dfe5bf830d779c3c8
</p>
1642 <p>To download the multiarch USB stick ISO release you can use
</p>
1644 <li><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.1+edu0~a3-USB.iso">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-USB.iso
</a></li>
1645 <li><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.1+edu0~a3-USB.iso">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-USB.iso
</a></li>
1646 <li>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.1+edu0~a3-USB.iso .
</li>
1649 <p>The MD5SUM of this image is:
25e808e403a4c15dbef1d13c37d572ac
1650 <br>The SHA1SUM of this image is:
15ecfc93eb6b4f453b7eb0bc04b6a279262d9721
</p>
1652 <p><strong>How to report bugs
</strong></p>
1654 <p><a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
</a></p>
1660 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
1665 <div class=
"padding"></div>
1669 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/The_value_of_a_good_distro_wide_test_suite___.html">The value of a good distro wide test suite...
</a>
1675 <p>In the
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu /
1676 Skolelinux
</a> project, we include a post-installation test suite,
1677 which check that services are running, working, and return the
1678 expected results. It runs automatically just after the first boot on
1679 test installations (using test ISOs), but not on production
1680 installations (using non-test ISOs). It test that the LDAP service is
1681 operating, Kerberos is responding, DNS is replying, file systems are
1682 online resizable, etc, etc. And it check that the PXE service is
1683 configured, which is the topic of this post.
</p>
1685 <p>The last week I've fixed the DVD and USB stick ISOs for our Debian
1686 Edu Wheezy release. These ISOs are supposed to be able to install a
1687 complete system without any Internet connection, but for that to
1688 happen all the needed packages need to be on them. Thanks to our test
1689 suite, I discovered that we had forgotten to adjust our PXE setup to
1690 cope with the new names and paths used by the netboot d-i packages.
1691 When Internet connectivity was available, the installer fall back to
1692 using wget to fetch d-i boot images, but when offline it require
1693 working packages to get it working. And the packages changed name
1694 from debian-installer-
6.0-netboot-$arch to
1695 debian-installer-
7.0-netboot-$arch, we no longer pulled in the
1696 packages during installation. Without our test suite, I suspect we
1697 would never have discovered this before release. Now it is fixed
1698 right after we got the ISOs operational.
</p>
1700 <p>Another by-product of the test suite is that we can ask system
1701 administrators with problems getting Debian Edu to work, to run the
1702 test suite using
<tt>/usr/sbin/debian-edu-test-install
</tt> and see if
1703 any errors are detected. This usually pinpoint the subsystem causing
1706 <p>If you want to help us help kids learn how to share and create,
1708 <a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%23debian-edu">#debian-edu on
1709 irc.debian.org
</a> and the
1710 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/">debian-edu@
</a> mailing
1717 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
1722 <div class=
"padding"></div>
1726 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Victor_Ni_u.html">Debian Edu interview: Victor Nițu
</a>
1732 <p>The
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu and
1733 Skolelinux
</a> distribution have users and contributors all around the
1734 globe. And a while back, an enterprising young man showed up on
1735 <a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%23debian-edu">our IRC channel
1736 #debian-edu
</a> and started asking questions about how Debian Edu
1737 worked. We answered as good as we could, and even convinced him to
1738 help us with translations. And today I managed to get an interview
1739 with him, to learn more about him.
</p>
1741 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
1743 <p>I'm a
25 year old free software enthusiast, living in Romania,
1744 which is also my country of origin. Back in
2009, at a New Year's Eve
1745 party, I had a very nice
<strike>beer
</strike> discussion with a
1746 friend, when we realized we have no organised Debian community in our
1747 country. A few days later, we put together the infrastructure for such
1748 community and even gathered a nice Debian-ish crowd. Since then, I
1749 began my quest as a free software hacker and activist and I am
1750 constantly trying to cover as much ground as possible on that
1753 <p>A few years ago I founded a small web development company, which
1754 provided me the flexible schedule I needed so much for my
1755 activities. For the last
13 months, I have been the Technical Director
1756 of
<a href=
"http://ceata.org/">Fundația Ceata
</a>, which is a free
1757 software activist organisation endorsed by the FSF and the FSFE, and
1758 the only one we have in our country.
</p>
1760 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
1761 project?
</strong></p>
1763 <p>The idea of participating in the Debian Edu project was a surprise
1764 even to me, since I never used it before I began getting involved in
1765 it. This year I had a great opportunity to deliver a talk on
1766 educational software, and I knew immediately where to look. It was a
1767 love at first sight, since I was previously involved with some of the
1768 technologies the project incorporates, and I rapidly found a lot of
1769 ways to contribute.
</p>
1771 <p>My first contributions consisted in translating the installer and
1772 configuration dialogs, then I found some bugs to squash (I still
1773 haven't fixed them yet though), and I even got my eyes on some other
1774 areas where I can prove myself helpful. Since the appetite for free
1775 software in my country is pretty low, I'll be happy to be the first
1776 one around here advocating for the project's adoption in educational
1777 environments, and maybe even get my hands dirty in creating a flavour
1778 for our own needs. I am not used to make very advanced plannings, so
1779 from now on, time will tell what I'll be doing next, but I think I
1780 have a pretty consistent starting point.
</p>
1782 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
1785 <p>Not a long time ago, I was in the position of configuring and
1786 maintaining a LDAP server on some Debian derivative, and I must say it
1787 took me a while. A long time ago, I was maintaining a bigger
1788 Samba-powered infrastructure, and I must say I spent quite a lot of
1789 time on it. I have similar stories about many of the services included
1790 with Skolelinux, and the main advantage I see about it is the
1791 out-of-the box availability of them, making it quite competitive when
1792 it comes to managing a school's network, for example.
</p>
1794 <p>Of course, there is more to say about Skolelinux than the
1795 availability of the software included, its flexibility in various
1796 scenarios is something I can't wait to experiment "into the wild" (I
1797 only played with virtual machines so far). And I am sure there is a
1798 lot more I haven't discovered yet about it, being so new within the
1801 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
1804 <p>As usual, when it comes to Debian Blends, I see as the biggest
1805 disadvantage the lack of a numerous team dedicated to the
1806 project. Every day I see the same names in the changelogs, and I have
1807 a constantly fear of the bus factor in this story. I'd like to see
1808 Debian Edu advertised more as an entry point into the Debian
1809 ecosystem, especially amongst newcomers and students. IMHO there are a
1810 lot low-hanging fruits in terms of bug squashing, and enough
1811 opportunities to get the feeling of the Debian Project's dynamics. Not
1812 to mention it's a very fun blend to work on!
</p>
1814 <p>Derived from the previous statement, is the delay in catching up
1815 with the main Debian release and documentation. This is common though
1816 to all blends and derivatives, but it's an issue we can all work
1819 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
1821 <p>I can hardly imagine myself spending a day without Vim, since my
1822 daily routine covers writing code and hacking configuration files. I
1823 am a fan of the Awesome window manager (but I also like the
1824 Enlightenment project a lot!),
1825 <a href=
"http://www.claws-mail.org/">Claws Mail
</a> due to its ease of
1826 use and very configurable behaviour. Recently I fell in love with
1827 <a href=
"https://launchpad.net/redshift">Redshift
</a>, which helps me
1828 get through the night without headaches. Of course, there is much more
1829 stuff in this bag, but I'll need a blog on my own for doing this!
</p>
1831 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
1832 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
1834 <p>Well, on this field, I cannot do much more than experiment right
1835 now. So, being far from having a recipe for success, I can only assume
1840 <li>schools would like to get rid of proprietary software
</li>
1842 <li>students will love the openness of the system, and will want to
1843 experiment with it - maybe we need to harvest the native curiosity
1844 of teenagers more?
</li>
1846 <li>there is no "right one" when it comes to strategies, but it would
1847 be useful to have some success stories published somewhere, so
1848 other can get some inspiration from them (I know I'd promote
1851 <li>more active promotion - talks, conferences, even small school
1852 lectures can do magical things if they encounter at least one
1853 person interested. Who knows who that person might be? ;-)
</li>
1857 <p>I also see some problems in getting Skolelinux into schools; for
1858 example, in our country we have a great deal of corruption issues, so
1859 it might be hard(er) to fight against proprietary solutions. Also,
1860 people who relied on commercial software for all their lives, would be
1861 very hard to convert against their will.
</p>
1867 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
1872 <div class=
"padding"></div>
1876 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Jonathan_Carter.html">Debian Edu interview: Jonathan Carter
</a>
1882 <p>There is a certain cross-over between the
1883 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
1884 project
</a> and
<a href=
"http://www.edubuntu.org/">the Edubuntu
1885 project
</a>, and for example the LTSP packages in Debian are a joint
1886 effort between the projects. One person with a foot in both camps is
1887 Jonathan Carter, which I am now happy to present to you.
</p>
1889 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
1891 <p>I'm a South-African free software geek who lives in Cape Town. My
1892 days vary quite a bit since I'm involved in too many things. As I'm
1893 getting older I'm learning how to focus a bit more :)
</p>
1895 <p>I'm also an Edubuntu contributor and I love when there are
1896 opportunities for the Edubuntu and Debian Edu projects to benefit from
1899 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
1900 project?
</strong></p>
1902 <p>I've been somewhat familiar with the project before, but I think my
1903 first direct exposure to the project was when I met Petter
1904 [Reinholdtsen] and Knut [Yrvin] at the Edubuntu summit in
2005 in
1905 London. They provided great feedback that helped the bootstrapping of
1906 Edubuntu. Back then Edubuntu (and even Ubuntu) was still very new and
1907 it was great getting input from people who have been around longer. I
1908 was also still very excitable and said yes to everything and to this
1909 day I have a big todo list backlog that I'm catching up with. I think
1910 over the years the relationship between Edubuntu and Debian-Edu has
1911 been gradually improving, although I think there's a lot that we could
1912 still improve on in terms of working together on packages. I'm sure
1913 we'll get there one day.
</p>
1915 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
1918 <p>Debian itself already has so many advantages. I could go on about
1919 it for pages, but in essence I love that it's a very honest project
1920 that puts its users first with no hidden agendas and also produces
1921 very high quality work.
</p>
1923 <p>I think the advantage of Debian Edu is that it makes many common
1924 set-up tasks simpler so that administrators can get up and running
1925 with a lot less effort and frustration. At the same time I think it
1926 helps to standardise installations in schools so that it's easier for
1927 community members and commercial suppliers to support.
</p>
1929 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
1932 <p>I had to re-type this one a few times because I'm trying to
1933 separate "disadvantages" from "areas that need improvement" (which is
1934 what I originally rambled on about)
</p>
1936 <p>The biggest disadvantage I can think of is lack of manpower. The
1937 project could do so much more if there were more good contributors. I
1938 think some of the problems are external too. Free software and free
1939 content in education is a no-brainer but it takes some time to catch
1940 on. When you've been working with the same proprietary eco-system for
1941 years and have gotten used to it, it can be hard to adjust to some
1942 concepts in the free software world. It would be nice if there were
1943 more Debian Edu consultants across the world. I'd love to be one
1944 myself but I'm already so over-committed that it's just not possible
1947 <p>I think the best short-term solution to that large-scale problem is
1948 for schools to be pro-active and share their experiences and grow
1949 their skills in-house. I'm often saddened to see how much money
1950 educational institutions spend on
3rd party solutions that they don't
1951 have access to after the service has ended and they could've gotten so
1952 much more value otherwise by being more self-sustainable and
1955 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
1957 <p>My main laptop dual-boots between Debian and Windows
7. I was
1958 Windows free for years but started dual-booting again last year for
1959 some games which help me focus and relax (Starcraft II in
1960 particular). Gaming support on Linux is improving in leaps and bounds
1961 so I suppose I'll soon be able to regain that disk space :)
</p>
1963 <p>Besides that I rely on Icedove, Chromium, Terminator, Byobu, irssi,
1964 git, Tomboy, KVM, VLC and LibreOffice. Recently I've been torn on
1965 which desktop environment I like and I'm taking some refuge in Xfce
1966 while I figure that out. I like tools that keep things simple. I enjoy
1967 Python and shell scripting. I went to an Arduino workshop recently and
1968 it was awesome seeing how easy and simple the IDE software was to get
1969 up and running in Debian compared to the users running Windows and OS
1972 <p>I also use mc which some people frown upon slightly. I got used to
1973 using Norton Commander in the early
90's and it stuck (I think the
1974 people who sneer at it is just jealous that they don't know how to use
1977 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
1978 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
1980 <p>I think trying to force it is unproductive. I also think that in
1981 many cases it's appropriate for schools to use non-free systems and I
1982 don't think that there's any particular moral or ethical problem with
1985 <p>I do think though that free software can already solve so so many
1986 problems in educational institutions and it's just a shame not taking
1987 advantage of that.
</p>
1989 <p>I also think that some curricula need serious review. For example,
1990 some areas of the world rely heavily on very specific versions of MS
1991 Office, teaching students to parrot menu items instead of learning the
1992 general concepts. I think that's very unproductive because firstly, MS
1993 Office's interface changes drastically every few years and on top of
1994 that it also locks in a generation to a product that might not be the
1995 best solution for them.
</p>
1997 <p>To answer your question, I believe that the right strategy is to
1998 educate and inform, giving someone the information they require to
1999 make a decision that would work for them.
</p>
2005 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
2010 <div class=
"padding"></div>
2014 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Third_alpha_release_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Debian_Wheezy.html">Third alpha release of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Debian Wheezy
</a>
2020 <p>The third wheezy based alpha release of Debian Edu was wrapped up
2021 today. This is the release announcement:
</p>
2023 <p><strong>New features for Debian Edu
7.0.0 alpha2 released
2024 2013-
06-
10</strong></p>
2026 <p>This is the release notes for for Debian Edu / Skolelinux
7.0.0 edu
2027 alpha2, based on Debian with codename "Wheezy".
</p>
2029 <p><strong>About Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</strong></p>
2031 <p><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu, also known as
2032 Skolelinux
</a>, is a Linux distribution based on Debian providing an
2033 out-of-the box environment of a completely configured school
2034 network. Immediately after installation a school server running all
2035 services needed for a school network is set up just waiting for users
2036 and machines being added via GOsa², a comfortable Web-UI. A netbooting
2037 environment is prepared using PXE, so after initial installation of
2038 the main server from CD, DVD or USB stick all other machines can be
2039 installed via the network. The provided school server provides LDAP
2040 database and Kerberos authentication service, centralized home
2041 directories, DHCP server, web proxy and many other services. The
2043 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Educational_applications_included_in_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux__the_screenshot_collection____.html">more
2044 than
60 educational software packages
</a> and more are available from
2045 the Debian archive, and schools can choose between KDE, Gnome, LXDE
2046 and Xfce desktop environment.
</p>
2048 <p>This is the third test release based on Debian Wheezy. Basically
2049 this is an updated and slightly improved version compared to the
2050 Squeeze release.
</p>
2052 <p><strong>Software updates
</strong></p>
2056 <li>Iceweasel was updated from
10 to
17. (DSA
2699-
1)
2057 <li>Updated libxv (DSA-
2674), libxvmc (DSA-
2675), libxfixes (DSA-
2676), libxrender (DSA-
2677), mesa (DSA-
2678), xserver-xorg-video-openchrome (DSA-
2679), libxt (DSA-
2680), libxcursor (DSA-
2681), libxext (DSA-
2682), libxi (DSA-
2683), libxrandr (DSA-
2684), libxp (DSA-
2685), libxcb (DSA-
2686), libfs (DSA-
2687), libxres (DSA-
2688), libxtst (DSA-
2689), libxxf86dga (DSA-
2690), libxinerama (DSA-
2691), libxxf86vm (DSA-
2692), libx11 (DSA-
2693), chromium-browser (DSA-
2695), gnutls26 (DSA-
2697), wireshark (DSA-
2700), krb5 (DSA-
2701), telepathy-gabble (DSA-
2702) and subversion (DSA-
2703).
2058 <li>Switched xrdp on thin client servers to use tightvncserver instead of xvnc4.
2059 <li>Now install software oscilloscope xoscope by default.
2060 <li>Now install music tools gtick, lingot and pianobooster by default.
2064 <p><strong>Other changes
</strong></p>
2068 <li>The subnet-change script is now able to change all files needing a change on the main-server when changing the IP network used.
2069 <li>Updated translation of the installation.
2070 <li>New Romanian translation.
2071 <li>Fix security problem causing root and first user password to no longer show up in /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat.
2072 <li>Fix roaming workstation setup (Closed in libpam-mklocaluser/
0.8, libpam-mklocaluser/
0.8~deb7u1: #
706753: libpam-mklocaluser: Fail to create local user during first login).
2073 <li>Made roaming workstation setup more robust in non-Debian Edu environments.
2074 <li>New script debian-edu-bless to transform a Debian installation to a Debian Edu profile.
2075 <li>Adjust Iceweasel setup to improve performance when $HOME is on NFS.
2076 <li>More testsuite tests.
2077 <li>Make automatic proxy configuration more robust.
2078 <li>Adjust GOsa² GUI configuration.
2080 <li>Update thin client and diskless workstation setup to work with
2081 LTSP in Wheezy.
</li>
2083 <li>Diskless workstations now run out of the box -- no need to set
2084 them up with GOsa².
</li>
2086 <li>Update IMAP server setup.
</li>
2088 <li>Fix login into Skolelinux Backup Tool (Closed in
2089 slbackup-php/
0.4.4-
1: #
700257: slbackup-php: Fails to submit correctly
2090 entered password).
</li>
2094 <p><strong>Known issues
</strong></p>
2098 <li>DVD binary and source images are not yet ready.
</li>
2100 <li>No mass import of user account data in GOsa (ldif or csv)
2101 available yet (Open in gosa/
2.7.4-
4: #
698840: gosa-plugin-ldapmanager:
2102 missing import feature).
</li>
2104 <li>Missing artwork for the KDE desktop (and probably a few others).
</li>
2106 <li>KDE Debian submenu lacks icons (Closed: #
502192: menu-xdg: invents
2107 own icon names instead of using existing). This will remain
2112 <p><strong>Where to get it
</strong></p>
2114 <p>To download the multiarch netinstall CD release you can use
</p>
2118 <li><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.0+edu0~a2-CD.iso">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.0+edu0~a2-CD.iso
</a></li>
2120 <li><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-7.0+edu0~a2-CD.iso">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.0+edu0~a2-CD.iso
</a></li>
2122 <li>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu-
7.0+edu0~a2-CD.iso .
</li>
2126 <p>The MD5SUM of this image is:
27bbcace407743382f3c42c08dbe8178
2127 <br>The SHA1SUM of this image is: e35f7d7908566cd3075375b3721fa10ee420d419
</p>
2129 <p><strong>How to report bugs
</strong></p>
2131 <p><a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
</a>
2137 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
2142 <div class=
"padding"></div>
2146 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Is_there_a_PHP_expert_in_the_building___Debian_Edu_need_help_.html">Is there a PHP expert in the building? Debian Edu need help!
</a>
2152 <p>Here is a call for help from the Debian Edu / Skolelinux project.
2153 We have two problems blocking the release of the Wheezy version we
2154 hope to get released soon. The two problems require some with PHP
2155 skills, and we seem to lack anyone with both time and PHP skills in
2160 <li>It is impossible to log into the slbackup web interface
2161 (slbackup-php) using the root user and password. This is
2162 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/700257">BTS report #
700257</a>.
2163 This used to work, but stopped working some time since Squeeze.
2164 Perhaps some obsolete PHP feature was used?
</li>
2166 <li>It is not possible to "mass import" user lists in Gosa, neither
2167 using ldif nor using CSV files. The feature was disabled after a
2168 major rewrite of Gosa, and need to be ported to the new system.
2169 This is
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/698840">BTS report
2174 <p>If you can help us, please join us on IRC
2175 (
<a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%23debian-edu">#debian-edu on
2176 irc.debian.org
</a>) and provide patches via the BTS.
</p>
2182 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
2187 <div class=
"padding"></div>
2191 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__C_dric_Boutillier.html">Debian Edu interview: Cédric Boutillier
</a>
2197 <p>It has been a while since my last English
2198 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a>
2199 interview last November. But the developers and translators are still
2200 pulling along to get the Wheezy based release out the door, and this
2201 time I managed to get an interview from one of the French translators
2202 in the project, Cédric Boutillier.
</p>
2204 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
2206 <p>I am
34 year old. I live near Paris, France. I am an assistant
2207 professor in probability theory. I spend my daytime teaching
2208 mathematics at the university and doing fundamental research in
2209 probability in connexion with combinatorics and statistical physics.
</p>
2211 <p>I have been involved in the Debian project for a couple of years
2212 and became Debian Developer a few months ago. I am working on Ruby
2213 packaging, publicity and translation.
</p>
2215 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
2216 project?
</strong></p>
2218 <p>I came to the Debian Edu project after a call for translation of
2219 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Manuals">the
2220 Debian Edu manual
</a> for the release of Debian Edu Squeeze. Since
2221 then, I have been working on updating the French translation of the
2224 <p>I had the opportunity to make an installation of Debian Edu in a
2225 virtual machine when I was preparing localised version of some screen
2226 shots for the manual. I was amazed to see it worked out of the box and
2227 how comprehensive the list of software installed by default was.
</p>
2229 <p>What amazed me was the complete network infrastructure directly
2230 ready to use, which can and the nice administration interface provided
2231 by
<a href=
"https://oss.gonicus.de/labs/gosa/">GOsa²
</a>. What pleased
2232 me also was the fact that among the software installed by default,
2233 there were many "traditional" educative software to learn languages,
2234 to count, to program... but also software to develop creativity and
2235 artistic skills with music (
<a href=
"http://ardour.org/">Ardour
</a>,
2236 <a href=
"http://audacity.sourceforge.net/">Audacity
</a>) and
2237 movies/animation (I was especially thinking of
2238 <a href=
"http://linuxstopmotion.sourceforge.net/">Stopmotion
</a>).
</p>
2240 <p>I am following the development of Debian Edu and am hanging out on
2241 <a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%23debian-edu">#debian-edu
</a>.
2242 Unfortunately, I don't much time to get more involved in this
2243 beautiful project.
</p>
2245 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
2248 <p>For me, the main advantages of Skolelinux/Debian Edu are its
2249 community of experts and its precise documentation, as well as the
2250 fact that it provides a solution ready to use.
</p>
2252 <p>I would add also the fact that it is based on the rock solid Debian
2253 distribution, which ensures stability and provides a huge collection
2254 of educational free software.
</p>
2256 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
2259 <p>Maybe the lack of manpower to do lobbying on the
2260 project. Sometimes, people who need to take decisions concerning IT do
2261 not have all the elements to evaluate properly free software
2262 solutions. The fact that support by a company may be difficult to find
2263 is probably a problem if the school does not have IT personnel.
</p>
2265 <p>One can find support from a company by looking at
2266 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Help/ProfessionalHelp">the
2267 wiki dokumentation
</a>, where some countries already have a number of
2268 companies providing support for Debian Edu, like Germany or
2269 Norway. This list is easy to find readily from the manual. However,
2270 for other countries, like France, the list is empty. I guess that
2271 consultants proposing support for Debian would be able to provide some
2272 support for Debian Edu as well.
</p>
2274 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
2276 <p>I am using the KDE Plasma Desktop. But the pieces of software I use
2277 most runs in a terminal: Mutt and OfflineIMAP for emails, latex for
2278 scientific documents, mpd for music. VIM is my editor of choice. I am
2279 also using the mathematical software
2280 <a href=
"http://www.scilab.org/en/scilab/about">Scilab
</a> and
2281 <a href=
"http://www.sagemath.org/index.html">Sage
</a> (built from
2282 source as not completely packaged for Debian, yet).
2284 <p><strong>Do you have any suggestions for teachers interested in
2285 using the free software in Debian to teach mathematics and
2286 statistics?
</strong></p>
2288 <p>I do not have any "nice" recommendations for statistics. At our
2289 university, we use both
<a href=
"http://www.r-project.org/">R
</a> and
2290 Scilab to teach statistics and probabilistic simulations. For
2291 geometry, there are nice programs:
</p>
2295 <li><a href=
"http://www.drgeo.eu/">drgeo
</a> and
2296 <a href=
"http://edu.kde.org/applications/all/kig">kig
</a> to do
2297 constructions in planar geometry
2299 <li><a href=
"http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/software/download/kali.html">kali
</a>
2300 to discover symmetry groups (the so-called wallpapers and frieze
2301 groups), although the interface looks a bit old.
</li>
2306 <a href=
"http://edu.kde.org/applications/all/cantor">cantor
</a>, which
2307 provides a uniform interface to SciLab, Sage,
2308 <a href=
"http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Octave">Octave
</a>, etc...
</p>
2310 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
2311 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
2313 <p>My suggestions would be to
</p>
2317 <li>advertise the reduction of costs when free software is used.
</li>
2319 <li>communicate about the quality of free software projects, using
2320 well known examples like Firefox, ThunderBird and
2321 OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice.
</li>
2323 <li>advertise the living and strong community around the project.
</li>
2325 <li>show that it is not more difficult to use than any other
2334 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
2339 <div class=
"padding"></div>
2343 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Educational_applications_included_in_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux__the_screenshot_collection____.html">Educational applications included in Debian Edu / Skolelinux (the screenshot collection :-)
</a>
2349 <p>Included in
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu /
2350 Skolelinux
</a>, there are quite a lot of educational software.
2351 Created to help teachers teach, and pupils learn. We have tried to
2352 tag them all using debtags use::learning and role::program, and using
2353 the debtags I was happy to be able to create a collage of the
2354 educational software packages installed by default, sorted by the
2355 debtag field. Here it is. Click on a image to learn more about the
2358 <!-- for f in $(debtags tagcat|grep field::|awk '{print $2}'); do echo; echo "<p><strong>$f</strong></p>"; echo "<p>"; ( for p in $(debtags search --names "use::learning && interface::x11 && role::program && $f"); do img="<img src='http://screenshots.debian.net/thumbnail/$p' alt='$p'>"; if dpkg -s $p > /dev/null 2>&1; then echo "<a href='http://packages.qa.debian.org/$p'>$img</a>"; fi; done; ) | LANG=C sort; echo "</p>"; done -->
2360 <p><strong>field::arts
</strong></p>
2362 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=audacity'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/audacity.png' alt='audacity'
></a>
2363 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=childsplay'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/childsplay.png' alt='childsplay'
></a>
2364 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=denemo'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/denemo.png' alt='denemo'
></a>
2365 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=freebirth'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/freebirth.png' alt='freebirth'
></a>
2366 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=gcompris'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gcompris.png' alt='gcompris'
></a>
2367 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=gimp'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gimp.png' alt='gimp'
></a>
2368 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=hydrogen'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/hydrogen.png' alt='hydrogen'
></a>
2369 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=lilypond'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/lilypond.png' alt='lilypond'
></a>
2370 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=lmms'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/lmms.png' alt='lmms'
></a>
2371 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=rosegarden'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/rosegarden.png' alt='rosegarden'
></a>
2372 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=scribus'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/scribus.png' alt='scribus'
></a>
2373 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=solfege'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/solfege.png' alt='solfege'
></a>
2374 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=stopmotion'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/stopmotion.png' alt='stopmotion'
></a>
2375 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=tuxpaint'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/tuxpaint.png' alt='tuxpaint'
></a>
2378 <p><strong>field::astronomy
</strong></p>
2380 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=celestia-gnome'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/celestia-gnome.png' alt='celestia-gnome'
></a>
2381 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=gpredict'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gpredict.png' alt='gpredict'
></a>
2382 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=kstars'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/kstars.png' alt='kstars'
></a>
2383 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=planets'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/planets.png' alt='planets'
></a>
2384 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=stellarium'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/stellarium.png' alt='stellarium'
></a>
2385 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=xplanet'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/xplanet.png' alt='xplanet'
></a>
2388 <p><strong>field::biology:structural
</strong></p>
2390 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=pymol'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/pymol.png' alt='pymol'
></a>
2393 <p><strong>field::chemistry
</strong></p>
2395 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=atomix'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/atomix.png' alt='atomix'
></a>
2396 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=chemtool'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/chemtool.png' alt='chemtool'
></a>
2397 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=easychem'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/easychem.png' alt='easychem'
></a>
2398 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=gchempaint'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gchempaint.png' alt='gchempaint'
></a>
2399 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=gdis'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gdis.png' alt='gdis'
></a>
2400 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=ghemical'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/ghemical.png' alt='ghemical'
></a>
2401 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=gperiodic'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gperiodic.png' alt='gperiodic'
></a>
2402 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=kalzium'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/kalzium.png' alt='kalzium'
></a>
2403 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=pymol'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/pymol.png' alt='pymol'
></a>
2404 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=viewmol'
>[viewmol]
</a>
2405 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=xdrawchem'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/xdrawchem.png' alt='xdrawchem'
></a>
2408 <p><strong>field::electronics
</strong></p>
2410 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=gcompris'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gcompris.png' alt='gcompris'
></a>
2411 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=gpsim'
>[gpsim]
</a>
2414 <p><strong>field::geography
</strong></p>
2416 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=kgeography'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/kgeography.png' alt='kgeography'
></a>
2417 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=marble'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/marble.png' alt='marble'
></a>
2418 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=xplanet'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/xplanet.png' alt='xplanet'
></a>
2421 <p><strong>field::linguistics
</strong></p>
2423 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=gcompris'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gcompris.png' alt='gcompris'
></a>
2424 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=kanagram'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/kanagram.png' alt='kanagram'
></a>
2425 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=khangman'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/khangman.png' alt='khangman'
></a>
2426 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=klettres'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/klettres.png' alt='klettres'
></a>
2427 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=parley'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/parley.png' alt='parley'
></a>
2430 <p><strong>field::mathematics
</strong></p>
2432 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=childsplay'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/childsplay.png' alt='childsplay'
></a>
2433 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=drgeo'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/drgeo.png' alt='drgeo'
></a>
2434 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=gcompris'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gcompris.png' alt='gcompris'
></a>
2435 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=geogebra'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/geogebra.png' alt='geogebra'
></a>
2436 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=geomview'
>[geomview]
</a>
2437 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=grace'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/grace.png' alt='grace'
></a>
2438 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=graphmonkey'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/graphmonkey.png' alt='graphmonkey'
></a>
2439 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=graphthing'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/graphthing.png' alt='graphthing'
></a>
2440 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=kalgebra'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/kalgebra.png' alt='kalgebra'
></a>
2441 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=kbruch'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/kbruch.png' alt='kbruch'
></a>
2442 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=kig'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/kig.png' alt='kig'
></a>
2443 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=kmplot'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/kmplot.png' alt='kmplot'
></a>
2444 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=mathwar'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/mathwar.png' alt='mathwar'
></a>
2445 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=rocs'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/rocs.png' alt='rocs'
></a>
2446 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=scratch'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/scratch.png' alt='scratch'
></a>
2447 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=tuxmath'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/tuxmath.png' alt='tuxmath'
></a>
2448 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=xabacus'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/xabacus.png' alt='xabacus'
></a>
2451 <p><strong>field::physics
</strong></p>
2453 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=gcompris'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gcompris.png' alt='gcompris'
></a>
2454 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=step'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/step.png' alt='step'
></a>
2457 <p><strong>field::TODO
</strong></p>
2459 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=blinken'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/blinken.png' alt='blinken'
></a>
2460 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=cgoban'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/cgoban.png' alt='cgoban'
></a>
2461 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=childsplay'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/childsplay.png' alt='childsplay'
></a>
2462 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=gcompris'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gcompris.png' alt='gcompris'
></a>
2463 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=gnuchess'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gnuchess.png' alt='gnuchess'
></a>
2464 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=gnugo'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gnugo.png' alt='gnugo'
></a>
2465 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=gtans'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/gtans.png' alt='gtans'
></a>
2466 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=ktouch'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/ktouch.png' alt='ktouch'
></a>
2467 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=librecad'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/librecad.png' alt='librecad'
></a>
2468 <a href='http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&exact=
1&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=scratch'
><img src='http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/
2013-
06-
01-debian-edu-apps/scratch.png' alt='scratch'
></a>
2471 <p>In total,
61 applications.
3 of them lacked screen shots on
2472 <a href=
"http://screenshot.debian.net">screenshot.debian.net
</a>. If
2473 you know of some packages we should install by default, please let us
2474 know on
<a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%23debian-edu">IRC, #debian-edu
2475 on irc.debian.org
</a>, or our
2476 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/">mailing list
2477 debian-edu@
</a>.
</p>
2483 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
2488 <div class=
"padding"></div>
2492 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Nirosan_Thiyagalingam.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Nirosan Thiyagalingam
</a>
2499 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux-prosjektet
</a> har
2500 hatt mye glede av er studentprosjekter. F.eks. er
2501 <a href=
"http://linuxstopmotion.org/">stillbildeanimasjonssystemet
2502 Stopmotion
</a> resultat av et studentprosjekt i Skolelinux. De siste
2503 månedene har en ivrig student veiledet av Marius Kotsbak i
2504 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">FRiSK
</a> testet hva en
2505 kan få til med en datamaskin til NOK
400,- (antagelig
1700,- med
2506 skjerm, tastatur og mus) når det brukes i Skolelinux. Jeg spurte han
2509 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
2511 <p>Jeg heter Nirosan Thiyagalingam. Jeg er
24 år og studerer
2512 dataingeniør studiet ved Høgskolen i Sør Trøndelag. Interessen for
2513 data har siden ung alder vært tilstede og jeg har i tillegg alltid
2514 vært glad i å lære nye ting. Med teknologi som endres svært hurtig er
2515 det alltid noe nytt å lære. Noe som igjen har gjort det svært
2516 interessant å følge med på utviklingen. Jeg valgte dataingeniør
2517 studiet grunnet ønske om å lære enda mer om programmering og utvikling
2518 av store systemer.
</p>
2520 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
2522 <p>Skolelinux prosjektet hørte jeg først om i media. Men det var først
2523 når jeg skulle velge bacheloroppgave at jeg fattet mer interesse for
2524 prosjektet. Et enkelt søk på nettet førte meg til skolelinux sine
2525 hjemmesider. Informasjonen jeg fant der gjorde meg enda nysgjerrig og
2526 jeg valgte derfor en oppgave som gikk ut på å få en
2527 <a href=
"http://www.raspberrypi.org">Raspberry PI
</a>. Altså en
2528 ultra-billig datamaskin til å kjøre Debian Edu på lik linje med
2529 vanlige datamaskiner. I løpet av prosjektet ble det gjort mye
2530 forskning på nettet. Det var mye jeg måtte forstå rundt hvordan
2531 operativsystemet Linux fungerte før jeg kunne angripe
2532 problemet. Prøvde først å finne ut hvordan man kunne transformere en
2533 vanlig installasjon av Skolelinux til Raspberry PI, men dette var
2534 altfor vanskelig å jeg endte opp med mer spørsmål enn svar. Det ble
2535 videre opprettet kontakt med Skolelinux utviklere på IRC der jeg fikk
2536 diskutert hvilken retning jeg burde gå for å få til en fullverdig
2537 løsning. Det ble bestemt at jeg skulle gå for å først installere
2538 <a href=
"http://www.raspbian.org/">Raspian
</a>. Dette er et
2539 operativsystem basert på Debian spesiallaget for Raspberry Pi sin
2540 maskinvare. Nå som Debian var installert på datamaskinen gjenstod det
2541 å installere de nødvendige Skolelinux pakkene for å få til et
2542 fullverdig system. Disse pakkene ble installert manuelt i første
2543 omgang, men ble senere installert automatisk via et script som Petter
2544 Reinholdtsen laget. Dette scriptet er så enkel å bruke at man er i
2545 gang med installasjonen i løpet av bare
5 minutter. Ikke nok med det,
2546 alt skjer helt automatisk. Alt i alt er jeg veldig fornøyd med
2547 resultatet av installasjonsprosessen. Raspberry Pi er en veldig svak
2548 maskin og det merkes godt når man har installert Skolelinux på
2549 den. Video og
3D-rendering fungerer utrolig dårlig, men nettsurfing og
2550 kontorprogrammer fungerer godt. Det kan derfor konkluderes med at
2551 datamaskinen er egnet for enkle oppgaver.
2553 <p>Jeg syns det er viktig påpeke at dette kun er startfasen av en slik
2554 løsning. På markedet finnes det nå maskiner som har bedre hardware enn
2555 Raspberry Pi. Det er store muligheter for at man kan klare å
2556 installere Skolelinux på disse også, og da forsvinner nok mest
2557 sannsynlig ytelsesproblemene med Video og
3D rendering også.
</p>
2559 <p>Det ble også prøvd med en løsning som gjorde at Raspberry Pi
2560 fungerte som en tynnklient. Denne løsningen hadde langt bedre ytelse
2561 med tanke på hastighet og brukeropplevelse. Men også her var video og
2562 3D rendering dårlig. Det ble brukt en liten Linux distribusjon kalt
2563 <a href=
"http://www.berryterminal.com/">BerryTerminal
</a> for å få til
2566 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
2568 <p>Fordelen med Skolelinux er mange. At det er gratis er en stor
2569 fordel, men at det er så mange som er med på å utvikle det og
2570 vedlikeholde det er en enda større fordel. Allerede før jeg startet
2571 med prosjektet så jeg mange fordeler, og når jeg nærmet meg sluttfasen
2572 så jeg langt flere. At prosjektet skulle inneha en så høy kvalitet
2573 hadde jeg aldri trodd. En vanlig Skolelinux installasjon har de
2574 nødvendige programmene og funksjonen som både små og store skoler i
2575 tillegg til organisasjoner kan klare seg med. At prosjektet tilbyr en
2576 så komplett løsning er en kjempefordel. Installasjonen er knirkefri
2577 og det er svært enkelt å installere og komme i gang.
</p>
2579 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
2581 <p>Ulempene jeg ser med prosjektet er ryddigheten av websidene. Selv
2582 om websidene er enkle og konsise er det allikevel ikke appellerende i
2583 like stor grad som for eksempel
2584 <a href=
"http://www.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu
</a> sine sider. Deres side
2585 tilbyr, i tillegg til godt design og presentasjon, en nettbasert
2586 emulator av deres operativsystem. Dette er en stor fordel slik jeg ser
2587 det. Bortsett fra dette ser jeg absolutt ingen ulemper med
2588 Skolelinux-prosjektet.
</p>
2590 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
2592 <p>Til daglig er jeg en flittig bruker av det åpne media
2593 sentersystemet
<a href=
"http://xbmc.org/">XBMC
</a>. Det enorme
2594 samfunnet rundt dette prosjektet har gjort dette til et program som
2595 dekker alles behov. Man kan tilpasse det akkurat slik man vil både med
2596 tanke på utseende og funksjoner ved installere plug-ins eller
2599 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
2600 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
2602 <p>Strategien som burde brukes sett fra mine øyne er
2603 markedsføring. Jeg er sikker på at om flere skoler fikk et lite innsyn
2604 i hvor bra Skolelinux er så ville de ikke nølt med å gå over fra noe
2605 annet som koster de store summer. At skolelinux til de grader tilbyr
2606 en så komplett løsning bure komme frem. Enten via reklamekampanjer
2607 eller ved å sende ut folk til skoler for så å la skolenettverk
2608 ansvarlige få teste ut hvordan Skolelinux fungerer i praksis. Om det
2609 i tillegg ble utviklet gode websider og en emulator for å la brukere
2610 prøve operativsystemet ville nok dette ha styrket inntrykket
2617 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
2622 <div class=
"padding"></div>
2626 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/How_to_transform_a_Debian_based_system_to_a_Debian_Edu_installation.html">How to transform a Debian based system to a Debian Edu installation
</a>
2632 <p><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a> is
2633 an operating system based on Debian intended for use in schools. It
2634 contain a turn-key solution for the computer network provided to
2635 pupils in the primary schools. It provide both the central server,
2636 network boot servers and desktop environments with heaps of
2637 educational software. The project was founded almost
12 years ago,
2638 2001-
07-
02. If you want to support the project, which is in need for
2639 cash to fund developer gatherings and other project related activity,
2640 <a href=
"http://www.linuxiskolen.no/slxdebianlabs/donations.html">please
2641 donate some money
</a>.
2643 <p>A topic that come up again and again on the Debian Edu mailing
2644 lists and elsewhere, is the question on how to transform a Debian or
2645 Ubuntu installation into a Debian Edu installation. It isn't very
2646 hard, and last week I wrote a script to replicate the steps done by
2647 the Debian Edu installer.
</p>
2650 <a href=
"http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debian-edu/branches/wheezy/debian-edu-config/share/debian-edu-config/tools/debian-edu-bless?view=markup">debian-edu-bless
<a/>
2651 in the debian-edu-config package, will go through these six steps and
2652 transform an existing Debian Wheezy or Ubuntu (untested) installation
2653 into a Debian Edu Workstation:
</p>
2657 <li>Add skolelinux related APT sources.
</li>
2658 <li>Create /etc/debian-edu/config with the wanted configuration.
</li>
2659 <li>Install debian-edu-install to load preseeding values and pull in
2660 our configuration.
</li>
2661 <li>Preseed debconf database with profile setup in
2662 /etc/debian-edu/config, and run tasksel to install packages
2663 according to the profile specified in the config above,
2664 overriding some of the Debian automation machinery.
</li>
2665 <li>Run debian-edu-cfengine-D installation to configure everything
2666 that could not be done using preseeding.
</li>
2667 <li>Ask for a reboot to enable all the configuration changes.
</li>
2671 <p>There are some steps in the Debian Edu installation that can not be
2672 replicated like this. Disk partitioning and LVM setup, for example.
2673 So this script just assume there is enough disk space to install all
2674 the needed packages.
</p>
2676 <p>The script was created to help a Debian Edu student working on
2677 setting up
<a href=
"http://www.raspberrypi.org">Raspberry Pi
</a> as a
2678 Debian Edu client, and using it he can take the existing
2679 <a href=
"http://www.raspbian.org/FrontPage">Raspbian
</a> installation and
2680 transform it into a fully functioning Debian Edu Workstation (or
2681 Roaming Workstation, or whatever :).
</p>
2683 <p>The default setting in the script is to create a KDE Workstation.
2684 If a LXDE based Roaming workstation is wanted instead, modify the
2685 PROFILE and DESKTOP values at the top to look like this instead:
</p>
2688 PROFILE="Roaming-Workstation"
2692 <p>The script could even become useful to set up Debian Edu servers in
2693 the cloud, by starting with a virtual Debian installation at some
2694 virtual hosting service and setting up all the services on first
2701 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
2706 <div class=
"padding"></div>
2710 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Second_alpha_release_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Debian_Wheezy.html">Second alpha release of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Debian Wheezy
</a>
2716 <p>The
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
2717 project
</a> is making great progress and made its second Wheezy based
2718 release today. This is the release announcement:
</p>
2720 <p><strong>New features for Debian Edu
7.0.0 alpha1 released
2721 2013-
05-
14</strong></p>
2723 <p>This is the release notes for for Debian Edu / Skolelinux
7.0.0 edu
2724 alpha1, based on
<a href=
"http://www.debian.org">Debian
</a> with
2725 codename "Wheezy".
</p>
2727 <p><strong>About Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</strong></p>
2729 <p>Debian Edu, also known as Skolelinux, is a Linux distribution based
2730 on Debian providing an out-of-the box environment of a completely
2731 configured school network. Immediatly after installation a school
2732 server running all services needed for a school network is set up just
2733 waiting for users and machines being added via GOsa², a comfortable
2734 Web-UI. A netbooting environment is prepared using PXE, so after
2735 initial installation of the main server from CD, DVD or USB stick all
2736 other machines can be installed via the network.
</p>
2738 <p>This is the first test release based on Wheezy (which currently is
2739 not released yet). Basically this is an updated and slightly improved
2740 version compared to the Squeeze release.
</p>
2742 <p><strong>Software updates
</strong></p>
2744 <li>Install freemind (
0.9.0) by default, and stop installing vym by
2746 <li>Install chromium (
26.0.1410.43) by default.
</li>
2747 <li>Install goplay (
0.5-
1.1) to make golearn available by default.
</li>
2748 <li>Updated support for Japanese input methods, now based on
2752 <p><strong>Other changes
</strong></p>
2755 <li>Switched default file system from ext3 to ext4 for speed and
2756 reliability improvements.
</li>
2757 <li>Got rid of unwanted winbind daemon and PAM setup activated because
2758 of
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/706434">706434</a>.
</li>
2759 <li>Extended and improved the testsuite tests to detect more possible
2761 <li>Corrected proxy handling to not set http_proxy to a bogus
2763 <li>Corrected proxy setup for diskless workstations.
</li>
2764 <li>Corrected PXE setup to use our updated udebs during installation.
</li>
2765 <li>Made installation handling of low entropy level more robust.
</li>
2766 <li>Create larger partitions for Roaming workstations and Thin client
2767 servers, to make room for all the software installed.
</li>
2768 <li>Fix bug in Roaming workstation PAM setup, making it impossible to
2769 log in (
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/706753">706753</a>).
</li>
2772 <p><strong>Known issues
</strong></p>
2775 <li>IP resolution for the local hostname give useless IPv6 address
2776 (
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/705900">705900</a>). Only install
2777 libnss-myhostname on roaming workstations until it is fixed.
</li>
2778 <li>DVD images are not yet ready.
</li>
2779 <li>No mass import of user account data in GOsa (ldif or csv)
2780 available yet (
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/698840">698840</a>).
</li>
2781 <li>Missing artwork for the KDE desktop (and probably a few others).
</li>
2782 <li>KDE Debian submenu lacks icons.
</li>
2783 <li>LXDE menu lacks entry for changing GOsa password
2784 (website). Installing gosa-desktop will be an option.
</li>
2785 <li>Backup configuration via web interface is impossible due to
2786 password submission problem
2787 (
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/700257">700257</a>).
</li>
2791 <p><strong>Where to get it
</strong></p>
2793 <p>To download the multiarch netinstall CD release you can use
</p>
2796 <li><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu~7.0+edu0~a1-CD.iso">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu~
7.0+edu0~a1-CD.iso
</a></li>
2797 <li><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu~7.0+edu0~a1-CD.iso">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu~
7.0+edu0~a1-CD.iso
</a></li>
2798 <li>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/debian-edu~
7.0+edu0~a1-CD.iso debian-edu~
7.0+edu0~a1-CD.iso
</li>
2802 <p>The MD5SUM of this image is:
685ed76c1aa8e44b12d3fde21faf450b
</p>
2804 <p>The SHA1SUM of this image is:
6c874de157024da13e115bab29c068080a11ec4c
</p>
2806 <p><strong>How to report bugs
</strong></p>
2808 <p><a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
</a></p>
2814 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
2819 <div class=
"padding"></div>
2823 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Narvik_sparer_minst_9_millioner_p____bruke_Skolelinux.html">Narvik sparer minst
9 millioner på å bruke Skolelinux
</a>
2829 <p>I fjor sommer ble jeg
2830 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gladoppslag_om_Skolelinux_i_avisen_Fremover.html">gledelig
2831 overrasket
</a> over et oppslag i avisen Fremover om Narvik kommunes
2832 bruk av
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a>. Oppslaget
2833 var basert på et notat som besvarte spørsmål fra ordfører Tor Nysæter
2834 og rådgiver for skolesektoren, Petter Falkbu, om bruken av Skolelinux
2835 i Narvikskolene og konstnaden ved å gå over til Windows. For litt
2836 over en uke siden siden fikk jeg endelig bedt kommunen om å få innsyn
2837 i dette notatet, og det ble oversendt på epost tirsdag. Jeg fikk
2838 <a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/pub/offentliginnsyn/from-Narvik-kommune/2013-04-29-09:12-skolelinux-notat/PetterFalkbuogwindowsfornarvikskolen%20(L)351310.pdf">lagt
2839 ut notatet
</a> samme dag, og fikk i dag sjekket postlista til Narvik,
2840 der jeg fant notatet som
2841 <a href=
"https://www.narvik.kommune.no/innsyn.aspx?response=arkivsak_detaljer&arkivsakid=2013001023&scripturi=/innsyn.aspx&skin=infolink&Mid1=301&">sak
2844 <p>Notatet forteller at Narvik ville måtte betalt minst
9 millioner
2845 for å gå over til Windows på skolene. I tillegg dokumenterer notatet
2846 at læreplanens krav oppfylles uten problemer ved bruk av Skolelinux.
2847 Jeg anbefaler alle å lese de
10 sidene med gode argumenter for å kutte
2848 unødige utgifter på IT i skoleverket. :)
</p>
2854 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
2859 <div class=
"padding"></div>
2863 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Wheezy_is_out___and_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_should_soon_follow___newinwheezy.html">Debian Wheezy is out - and Debian Edu / Skolelinux should soon follow! #newinwheezy
</a>
2869 <p>When I woke up this morning, I was very happy to see that the
2870 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/2013/20130504">release announcement
2871 for Debian Wheezy
</a> was waiting in my mail box. This is a great
2872 Debian release, and I expect to move my machines at home over to it fairly
2875 <p>The new debian release contain heaps of new stuff, and one program
2876 in particular make me very happy to see included. The
2877 <a href=
"http://scratch.mit.edu/">Scratch
</a> program, made famous by
2878 the
<a href=
"http://www.code.org/">Teach kids code
</a> movement, is
2879 included for the first time. Alongside similar programs like
2880 <a href=
"http://edu.kde.org/kturtle/">kturtle
</a> and
2881 <a href=
"http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art">turtleart
</a>,
2882 it allow for visual programming where syntax errors can not happen,
2883 and a friendly programming environment for learning to control the
2884 computer. Scratch will also be included in the next release of Debian
2887 <p>And now that Wheezy is wrapped up, we can wrap up the next Debian
2888 Edu/Skolelinux release too. The
2889 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2013/04/msg00132.html">first
2890 alpha release
</a> went out last week, and the next should soon
2897 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
2902 <div class=
"padding"></div>
2906 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_alpha_release_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Debian_Wheezy.html">First alpha release of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Debian Wheezy
</a>
2912 <p>The Debian Edu / Skolelinux project is still going strong and made
2913 its first Wheezy based release today. This is the release
2916 <p><strong>New features for Debian Edu ~
7.0.0 alpha0 released
2917 2013-
04-
26</strong></p>
2919 <p>This is the release notes for for Debian Edu / Skolelinux ~
7.0.0
2920 edu alpha0, based on Debian with codename "Wheezy".
</p>
2922 <p><strong>About Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</strong></p>
2924 <p><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu, also known as
2925 Skolelinux
</a>, is a Linux distribution based on Debian providing an
2926 out-of-the box environment of a completely configured school
2927 network. Immediatly after installation a school server running all
2928 services needed for a school network is set up just waiting for users
2929 and machines being added via GOsa², a comfortable Web-UI. A netbooting
2930 environment is prepared using PXE, so after initial installation of
2931 the main server from CD, DVD or USB stick all other machines can be
2932 installed via the network.
</p>
2934 <p>This is the first test release based on Wheezy (which currently is
2935 not released yet). Basically this is an updated and slightly improved
2936 version compared to the Squeeze release.
</p>
2938 <p><strong>Software updates
</strong></p>
2941 <li>Everything which is new in Debian Wheezy, eg:
2943 <li>Linux kernel
3.2.x
</li>
2944 <li>Desktop environments KDE "Plasma"
4.8.4, GNOME
3.4, and LXDE
4
2945 (KDE is installed by default; to choose GNOME or LXDE: see
2947 <li>Web browser Iceweasel
10 ESR
</li>
2948 <li>LibreOffice
3.5.4</li>
2951 <li>CUPS print system
1.5.3</li>
2952 <li>Educational toolbox GCompris
12.01</li>
2953 <li>Music creator Rosegarden
12.04</li>
2954 <li>Image editor Gimp
2.8.2</li>
2955 <li>Virtual universe Celestia
1.6.1</li>
2956 <li>Virtual stargazer Stellarium
0.11.3</li>
2957 <li>Scratch visual programming environment
1.4.0.6</li>
2958 <li>New version of debian-installer from Debian Wheezy, see
2959 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/installmanual">installation
2960 manual
</a> for more details.
</li>
2961 <li>Debian Wheezy includes about
37000 packages available for
2963 <li>More information about Debian Wheezy
7.0 is provided in the
2964 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/releasenotes">release notes
</a> and the
<a href=
"http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/installmanual">installation manual
</a>.
</li>
2968 <p><strong>Documentation
</strong></p>
2970 <li>The (
<a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Wheezy">English
</a>) Debian Edu Wheezy Manual is fully translated to
2971 German, French, Italian and Danish. Partly translated versions exist
2972 for Norwegian Bokmal and Spanish.
</li>
2975 <p><Strong>LDAP related changes
</strong></p>
2977 <li>Slight changes to some objects and acls to have more types to
2978 choose from when adding systems in GOsa. Now systems can be of type
2979 server, workstation, printer, terminal or netdevice.
</li>
2982 <p><strong>Other changes
</strong></p>
2984 <li>LTSP clients start as diskless workstation / thin client can be
2985 configured via command line argument -- or individually adding an
2986 entry in lts.conf or LDAP.
<li>
2987 <li>GOsa gui: Now some options that seemed to be available, but are non
2988 functional, are greyed out (or are not clickable). Some tabs are
2989 completely hidden to the end user, others even to the GOsa admin.
</li>
2992 <p><strong>Regressions
</strong></p>
2994 <li>No mass import of user account data in GOsa (ldif or csv) available
2998 <p><strong>No updated artwork
</strong></p>
3001 <li>Updated artwork which is visible during installation, in the login
3002 screen and as desktop wallpaper is still missing or the same as we
3003 had for our Squeeze based release.
</li>
3006 <p><strong>Where to get it
</strong></p>
3008 To download the multiarch netinstall CD release you can use
3010 <li><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/
</a></li>
3011 <li><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/wheezy/
</a></li>
3012 <li>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/wheezy/
</li>
3015 <p>The MD5SUM of this image is: c5e773ddafdaa4f48c409c682f598b6c
</p>
3017 <p>The SHA1SUM of this image is:
25934fabb9b7d20235499a0a51f08ce6c54215f2
</p>
3019 <p><strong>How to report bugs
</strong></p>
3021 <p><a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugs
</a></p>
3027 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
3032 <div class=
"padding"></div>
3036 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_developer_gathering_in_2013_take_place_in_Trondheim.html">First Debian Edu / Skolelinux developer gathering in
2013 take place in Trondheim
</a>
3042 <p>This years first
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux /
3043 Debian Edu
</a> developer gathering take place the coming weekend in Trondheim.
3044 Details about the gathering can be found
3045 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/Gathering/2013-04-19-21-Trondheim">on
3046 the FRiSK wiki
</a>. The dates are
19-
21th of April
2013, and online
3047 participation for those unable to make it in person is very welcome,
3048 and I plan to participate online myself as I could not leave Oslo this
3051 <p>The focus of the gathering is to work on the web pages and project
3052 infrastructure, and to continue the work on the Wheezy based Debian
3055 <p>See you on
<a href=
"irc://irc.debian.org/%23debian-edu">IRC, #debian-edu on irc.debian.org,
</a> then?
</p>
3061 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
3066 <div class=
"padding"></div>
3070 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_6_got_a_video_review_from_Pcwizz.html">Skolelinux
6 got a video review from Pcwizz
</a>
3077 <a href=
"https://twitter.com/pcwizz/status/313044373262716930">twitter
</a>
3078 I just discovered that
<a href=
"http://pcwizz.net/">Pcwizz
</a> have
3079 done a
<a href=
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPzTZ61Pcuc">video
3080 review
</a> on Youtube of
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
3081 / Debian Edu
</a> version
6. He installed the standalone profile and
3082 the video show a walk-through of of the menu content, demonstration of
3083 a few programs and his view of our distribution.
</p>
3085 <p>There is also some really nice quotes (transcribed by me, might
3086 have heard wrong). While looking thought the Graphics menu:
</p>
3089 "Basically everything you ever need in a school environment."
3092 <p>And as a general evaluation of the entire distribution:
</p>
3095 "So, yeah, a bit bloated. It kept all the Debian stuff in there, just
3096 to keep it nice and GNU. So, I do not want to go on about it, but
3097 lets give it
7 out of
10. I am not going to use it. That is because
3098 I am not deploying a school network. There may be some mythical
3099 feature to help you deploy Skolelinux on a school network."
3102 <p>To bad he did not test the server profile, and discovered the PXE
3103 installation option. It make it possible to install only the main
3104 server from CD, and the rest of the machines via the net, and might be
3105 considered the mythical feature he talk about. :)
</p>
3107 <p>While looking through the menus, there is also this funny comment
3108 about the part of the K menu generated from the Debian menu subsystem:
3111 "[The K menu] have a special Debian section for software that no-one
3112 is going to look at, because it contain lots of junky stuff that you
3113 actually don't need in the education distribution, but have just been
3114 included because it isn't stripped out for some reason."
3117 <p>I guess it is yet another argument for merging the Debian menu and
3118 Gnome/KDE desktop menu entries into
3119 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/Proposals/DebianMenuUsingDesktopEntries">one
3120 consistent menu system
</a> instead of two incomplete and partly
3121 inconsistent menu systems.
</p>
3123 <p>The entire video is available below for those accepting iframe
3126 <iframe width=
"560" height=
"315" src=
"http://www.youtube.com/embed/wPzTZ61Pcuc" frameborder=
"0" allowfullscreen
></iframe>
3132 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video
</a>.
3137 <div class=
"padding"></div>
3141 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_Skolelinux___Debian_Edu_Squeeze_update_released.html">First Skolelinux / Debian Edu Squeeze update released
</a>
3147 <p>Last Sunday,
2013-
03-
03,, Holger Levsen announced the first update
3148 of
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux / Debian Edu
</a>
3149 based on Debian Squeeze. This is the first update since
3150 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/2012/03/msg00001.html">the
3151 initial release
2012-
03-
11</a>. This is the
3152 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/2013/03/msg00000.html">release
3153 announcement email from Holger
</a>:
</p>
3155 <blockquote><p>Hi,
</p>
3157 <p>it's my pleasure to announce the immediate availability of Debian
3158 Edu
6.0.7+r1 ("Debian Edu Squeeze").
</p>
3160 <p>Debian Edu
6.0.7+r1 is an incremental update to Debian Edu
3161 6.0.4+r0, containing all the changes between Debian
6.0.4 and
6.0.7 as
3162 well Debian Edu specific bugfixes and enhancements. See below (in this
3163 mail) for the full list of (edu) changes. Please see
3164 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120311">http://www.debian.org/News/
2012/
20120311</a>
3165 for more information on "Debian Edu Squeeze".
</p>
3167 <p>Images are available for download at
3168 <a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/
</a></p>
3171 <br>1fe79eb4f0f9ae1c58fc318e26cc1e2e debian-edu-
6.0.7+r1-CD.iso
3172 <br>a6ddd924a8bd9a1b5ca122e8fe1c34ec debian-edu-
6.0.7+r1-DVD.iso
3173 <br>ac6c72cd7925ccec51bfbf58e2a7c69c debian-edu-
6.0.7+r1-source-DVD.iso
</p>
3176 <br>a4b58233b672a99c7df8dc24fb6de3327654a5c3 debian-edu-
6.0.7+r1-CD.iso
3177 <br>9b524915e0ff2aa793f13d93123e5bd2bab2dbaa debian-edu-
6.0.7+r1-DVD.iso
3178 <br>43997614893fc5e9e59ad6ce066b05d07fd836fa debian-edu-
6.0.7+r1-source-DVD.iso
</p>
3180 <p>These images are suitable for amd64+i386.
</p>
3182 <p>Changes for Debian Edu
6.0.7+r1 Codename "Squeeze", released
3186 <li>sitesummary was updated from
0.1.3 to
0.1.8
3188 <li>Make Nagios configuration more robust and efficient
</li>
3189 <li>Comply with
3.X kernel
</li>
3191 <li>debian-edu-doc from
1.4~
20120310~
6.0.4+r0 to
1.4~
20130228~
6.0.7+r1
3193 <li>Minor updates from the wiki
</li>
3194 <li>Danish translation now complete
</li>
3196 <li>debian-edu-config from
1.453 to
1.455
3198 <li>Fix /etc/hosts for LTSP diskless workstations. Closes: #
699880</li>
3199 <li>Make ltsp_local_mount script work for multiple devices.
</li>
3200 <li>Correct Kerberos user policy: don't expire password after
2 days.
3201 Closes: #
664596</li>
3202 <li>Handle '#' characters in the root or first users password.
3203 Closes: #
664976</li>
3204 <li>Fixes for gosa-sync:
3206 <li>Don't fail if password contains "
</li>
3207 <li>Don't disclose new password string in syslog
</li>
3209 <li>Fixes for gosa-create:
3211 <li>Invalidate libnss cache before applying changes
</li>
3212 <li>Multiple failures during mass user import into GOsa²
</li>
3213 <li>gosa-netgroups plugin: don't erase entries of attribute type
3214 "memberNisNetgroup". Closes: #
687256</li>
3215 <li>First user now uses the same Kerberos policy as all other users
</li>
3217 <li>Add Danish web page
</li>
3219 <li>debian-edu-install from
1.528 to
1.530
3221 <li>Improve preseeding support and documentation
</li>
3225 <p>End-user documentation in English is available at
3226 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze/">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze/
</a>
3227 - translations to French, Italian, Danish and German are available in
3228 the debian-edu-doc package. (Other languages could use your help!)
</p>
3230 <p>If you want to contribute to Debian Edu, please join our
3232 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/">debian-edu@lists.debian.org
</a>!
3235 <p>I am very happy to see the fruits of a year of hard work. :)
</p>
3241 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
3246 <div class=
"padding"></div>
3250 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Helge_Tore_H_yland.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Helge Tore Høyland
</a>
3256 <p>Etter en lang pause og travle uker har jeg endelig klart å få
3257 samlet et nytt intervju med en av folkene i
3258 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a>-miljøet.
3259 Denne gang er det Helge Tore Høyland, en mangeårig bidragsyter på
3260 epostlistene og ellers i prosjektet.
</p>
3262 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
3264 <p>Eg er IT-konsulent/teknikker hjå eit firma i Steinkjer med navn
3265 <a href=
"http://unoit.no/">Uno IT
</a>. Uno IT er eit lite firma som
3266 drifter nettverk og maskiner for små og mellomstore firma
3267 Steinkjer-området. Per dags dato er me
2 ansatte. Min faglege bakgrunn
3268 er Fagbrev som it-teknikker, samt nokre fag innen nettverk- og
3269 server-drift frå HiST og NTNU. Dagleg arbeid består i oppsett av nye
3270 maskiner og hjelp til sluttbrukere, samt oppsett og vedlikehold av eit
3271 vidt spekter av fagsystemer ute hjå kunder. Erfaring med Skolelinux
3272 har eg hatt i forbindelse med drifting av
3273 <a href=
"http://www.bjorkly.no/">Bjørkly skule
</a>, ein privat
3274 grunnskule i Namsos-området. I dag har skulen
65 elever,
15 lærere,
1
3275 hovedserver og ca
60 klienter som kjører halvtjukt. Eg har bygd og
3276 driftet systemet sidan summaren
2006.
</p>
3278 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
3280 <p>Eg kom i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet via ein artikkel i eit
3281 fagblad, som eg ikkje lenger hugsar namnet på. I og med at eg allereie
3282 hadde pusla med nettverk for ein annan skule, fatta eg straks
3283 interesse for prosjektet.
</p>
3285 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
3287 <p>Fordelane med Skolelinux er sentralisert administrasjon og svært
3288 mange gode verktøy «ut av boksen». Veldig kjekt å kunne drifte
60
3289 klientar med berre å «bry» seg med ein server. Levetid for systemets
3290 hardware er og ein veldig fin effekt. I tillegg kjem fordelar som økt
3291 sikkerhet og mindre lisenskostnader. Etter min erfaring er det og
3292 mykje mindre driftskostnader med eit slikt system enn konkurrerande
3293 system, pga enkelhet med sentralisert administrasjon. På grunn av at
3294 Skolelinux er basert på Debian er det òg svært stabilt.
</p>
3296 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
3298 <p>Ulemper er mangel på vilje til å følge standarer ute i markedet,
3299 som fører til mangel på støtte til nokre mykje brukte ting. Flash og
3300 Java er typiske eksempel. Sidan Debian satsar på stabilitet framfor å
3301 ha nyeste pakke av eit program, kan ein i nokre tilfeller kome borti
3302 at program vert «for gamle». Det er spesielt nettlesaren som er
3303 utsett. Mangel på vilje til å utvikle pedagogisk programvare, i Noreg,
3304 for «alle» platformer fører òg til noko hovudbry.
</p>
3306 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
3308 <p>Til dagleg bruker eg svært mange forskjellige «fri programvare»
3309 program. Firefox, Thunderbird, Freecommander, ImgBurn, Clonezilla,
3310 OCS inventory, Icinga, Skolelinux, SystemRescueCD og mykje meir.
</p>
3312 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
3313 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
3315 <p>Strategisk må ein fokusere på at sluttbruker eigentleg ikkje er så
3316 fokusert på at det er fri programvare men at det skal «berre fungere».
3317 Gjer det enkelt å bruker og ikkje minst å administrere. For Skolelinux
3318 sin del må ein få eit betre fokus på overganger. Utbytting av servere
3319 må gå meir automatisk, import og eksport av brukerbase og maskinbase
3320 med meir må kunne gå enkelt og oppgradering til neste versjon må bli
3321 mykje meir automatisk og gjennomtesta. Ein må unngå at ein må sette
3322 opp frå start når ein byter ut ein server eller oppgraderer til neste
3323 versjon. For å få Skolelinux til å bli eit betre alternativ for skular
3324 må ein ha fokus på nettlesaren. Denne må bli «up to date» og støtte
3325 dei protokollar og tillegg som vert brukt av forlag med meir. Etter
3326 kvart som meir og meir blir flytta ut i «skya» vert dette viktigare og
3327 viktigare. Ein kunne ynskje og jobbe for at forlag med fleire tar i
3328 bruk opne standarer, men inntil det skjer, må systemet kunne brukast
3329 mot desse fagsystema.
</p>
3331 <p>For meg har prosjektet med Skolelinux vore ein svært artig og
3332 lærerik prosess. Miljøet rundt er ikkje enormt stort, dog stort nok,
3333 men det er svært hjelpevillig og engasjert.
</p>
3339 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
3344 <div class=
"padding"></div>
3348 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/A_Christmas_present_for_Skolelinux___Debian_Edu.html">A Christmas present for Skolelinux / Debian Edu
</a>
3354 <p>I was happy to discover a few days ago that the
3355 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux / Debian Edu
</a>
3356 project also this year received a Christmas present from Another
3357 Agency in Trondheim. NOK
1000,- showed up on our donation account
3358 December
24th. I want to express our thanks for this very welcome
3359 present. As the Debian Edu / Skolelinux project is very short on
3360 funding these days, and thus lack the money to do regular developer
3361 gatherings, this donation was most welcome. One developer gathering
3362 cost around NOK
15 000,-, so we need quite a lot more to keep the
3363 development pace we want. Thus, I hope their example this year is
3364 followed by many others. :)
</p>
3366 <p>The public list of donors can be found on
3367 <a href=
"http://www.linuxiskolen.no/slxdebianlabs/donations.html">the
3368 donation page
</a> for the project, which also contain instructions if
3369 you want to donate to the project.
</p>
3375 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
3380 <div class=
"padding"></div>
3384 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Ledger___double_entry_accounting_using_text_based_storage_format.html">Ledger - double-entry accounting using text based storage format
</a>
3390 <p>A few days ago I came across
3391 <a href=
"http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/hledger/">a blog post from Joey
3392 Hess
</a> describing
<a href=
"http://ledger-cli.org/">ledger
</a> and
3393 hledger, a text based system for double-entry accounting. I found it
3394 interesting, as I am involved with several organizations where
3395 accounting is an issue, and I have not really become too friendly with
3396 the different web based systems we use. I find it hard to find what I
3397 look for in the menus and even harder try to get sensible data out of
3398 the systems. Ledger seem different. The accounting data is kept in
3399 text files that can be stored in a version control system, and there
3401 are at least
<a href=
"https://github.com/ledger/ledger/wiki/Ports">five
3402 different implementations
</a> able to read the format. An example
3403 entry look like this, and is simple enough that it will be trivial to
3404 generate entries based on CVS files fetched from the bank:
</p>
3407 2004-
05-
27 Book Store
3408 Expenses:Books $
20.00
3412 <p>The concept seemed interesting enough for me to check it out and
3413 look for others using it. I found blog posts from
3414 <a href=
"http://blog.spang.cc/posts/hledger_rocks_my_world/">Christine
3416 <a href=
"http://bugsplat.info/2010-05-23-keeping-finances-with-ledger.html">Pete
3418 <a href=
"http://blog.andrewcantino.com/blog/2010/11/06/command-line-accounting-with-ledger-and-reckon/">Andrew
3420 <a href=
"http://blog.iphoting.com/blog/2012/11/29/command-line-double-entry-accounting/">Ronald
3421 Ip
</a> describing how they use it, as well as a post from
3422 <a href=
"https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/ledger-cli/r0oWjwbQ9Bo">Bradley
3423 M. Kuhn
</a> at the Software Freedom Conservancy. All seemed like good
3424 recommendations fitting my need.
</p>
3426 <p>The
<a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/ledger.html">ledger
</a>
3427 package is available in Debian Squeeze, while the
3428 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/h/haskell-hledger.html">hledger
</a>
3429 package only is available in Debian Sid. As I use Squeeze, ledger
3430 seemed the best choice to get started.
</p>
3432 <p>To get some real data to test on, I wrote a
3433 <a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/tools/lodo2ledger">web scraper
</a> for
3434 <a href=
"http://www.lodo.no/">LODO
</a>, the accounting system used by
3435 the
<a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/">NUUG
</a> association, and started to
3436 play with the data set. I'm not really deeply into accounting, but I
3437 am able to get a simple balance and accounting status for example
3438 using the "
<tt>ledger balance
</tt>" command. But I will have to
3439 gather more experience before I know if the ledger way is a good fit
3440 for the organisations I am involved in.</p>
3446 Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu
">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english
">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug
">nuug</a>.
3451 <div class="padding
"></div>
3455 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Angela_Fu_.html
">Debian Edu interview: Angela Fuß</a>
3461 <p>Here is another interview with one of the people in the <a
3462 href="http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu and Skolelinux</a>
3463 community. I am running short on people willing to be interviewed, so
3464 if you know about someone I should interview, Please send me an email.
3465 After asking for many months, I finally managed to lure another one of
3466 the people behind the German
3467 "<a href=
"http://wiki.it-zukunft-schule.de/">IT-Zukunft Schule
</a>"
3468 project out from maternity leave to conduct an interview. Give a warm
3469 welcome to Angela Fuß. :)</p>
3471 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?</strong></p>
3473 <p>I am a 39-year-old woman living in the very north of Germany near
3474 Denmark. I live in a patchwork family with "my man" Mike Gabriel, my
3475 two daughters, Mikes daughter and Mikes and my rather newborn son.
3477 <p>At the moment - because of our little baby - I am spending most of
3478 the day by being a caring and organising mom for all the kids.
3479 Besides that I am really involved into and occupied with several inner
3480 growth processes: New born souls always bring the whole familiar
3481 system into movement and that needs time and focus ;-). We are also
3482 in the middle of buying a house and moving to it.
</p>
3484 <p>In
2013 I will work again in my job in a German foundation for
3485 nature conservation. I am doing public relation work there. Besides
3486 that - and that is the connection to Skolelinux / Debian Edu - I am
3487 working in our own school project "IT-Zukunft Schule" in North
3488 Germany. I am responsible for the quality assurance, the customer
3489 relationship management and the communication processes in the
3492 <p>Since
2001 I constantly have been training myself in communication
3493 and leadership. Besides that I am a forester, a landscaping gardener
3494 and a yoga teacher.
</p>
3496 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu
3497 project?
</strong></p>
3499 <p>I fell in love with Mike ;-).
</p>
3501 <p>Very soon after getting to know him I was completely enrolled into
3502 Free Software. At this time Mike did IT-services for one newly
3503 founded school in Kiel. Other schools in Kiel needed concepts for
3504 their IT environment. Often when Mike came home from working at the
3505 newly founded school I found myself listening to his complaints about
3506 several points where the communication with the schools head or the
3507 teachers did not work. So we were clear that he would not work for
3508 one more school if we did not set up a structure for communication
3509 between him, the schools head, the teachers, the students and the
3512 <p>Together with our friend and hardware supplier Andreas Buchholz we
3513 started to get an overview of free software solutions suitable for
3514 schools. One day before Christmas
2010 Mike and I had a date with Kurt
3515 Gramlich in Gütersloh. As Kurt and I are really interested in building
3516 networks of people and in being in communication we dived into
3517 Skolelinux and brought it to the first grammar schools in Northern
3520 <p>For information about our school project you can read
3521 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Mike_Gabriel.html">the
3522 interview with Mike Gabriel
</a>.
</p>
3524 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux / Debian
3527 <p>First I have to say: I cannot answer this question technically. My
3528 answer comes rather from a social point of view.
</p>
3530 <p>The biggest advantage of Skolelinux / Debian Edu I see is the large
3531 and strong international community of Debian Developers in the
3532 background which is very alive and connected over mailinglists, blogs
3533 and meetings. My constant feeling for the Debian Community is: If
3534 something does not work they will somehow fix it. All is well
3535 ;-). This is of course a user experience. What I also get as a big
3536 advantage of Skolelinux / Debian Edu is that everybody who uses it and
3537 works with it can also contribute to it - that includes students,
3538 teachers, parents...
</p>
3540 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux / Debian
3543 <p>I will answer this question relating to the internal structure of
3544 Skolelinux / Debian Edu.
</p>
3546 <p>What I see as a major disadvantage is that there is a gap between
3547 the group of developers for Debian Edu and the people who make the
3548 marketing, that means the people that bring Skolelinux to the
3549 schools. There is a lack of communication between these two groups and
3550 I think that does not really work for Skolelinux / Debian Edu.
</p>
3552 <p>Further I appreciate that Skolelinux / Debian Edu is known as a
3553 do-ocracy. Nevertheless I keep asking myself if at some points a
3554 democracy or some kind of hierarchical project structure would be good
3555 and helpful. I am also missing some kind of contact between the
3556 Skolelinux / Debian Edu communities in Europe or on an international
3557 level. I think it would be good if there was more sharing between the
3558 different countries using Skolelinux / Debian Edu.
</p>
3560 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
3562 <p>On my laptop I am still using an Ubuntu
10.04 with a Gnome Desktop
3563 on. As applications I use Openoffice.org, Gedit, Firefox, Pidgin,
3564 LaTeX and GnuCash. For mails I am using Horde. And I am really fond of
3565 my N900 running with Maemo.
</p>
3567 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
3568 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
3570 <p>I am really convinced that in our school project "IT-Zukunft
3571 Schule" we have developed (and keep developing) a great way to get
3572 schools to use Free Software. We have written a detailed concept for
3573 that so I cannot explain the whole thing here. But in a nutshell the
3574 strategy has three crucial pillars:
</p>
3578 <li>We really take time to get what sort of stories, questions and
3579 concerns the schools head and the teachers have about using different
3580 kinds of IT and we take time to enrol them into Free Software.
</li>
3582 <li>Our solution for schools is never just technical. In the centre
3583 are always the people who are going to use the software. From the very
3584 beginning of the planning for a school, we tell the schools head that
3585 they are paying us not only for a technical solution for their school,
3586 they also pay us for leading all the communication processes
3587 needed. If they do not want that, we are not working with them because
3588 we cannot give a guarantee for the quality of our work then.
</li>
3590 <li>Another focus lies in the training of teachers and students in
3591 co-administrating the IT-System at their school. They start getting in
3592 contact with the Skolelinux / Debian Edu community and they get the
3593 offer to become more and more independent from us.
</li>
3601 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
3606 <div class=
"padding"></div>
3610 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_noe_for_Ballangen___Leserinnlegg_til_avisen_Fremover_.html">Skolelinux noe for Ballangen? (Leserinnlegg til avisen Fremover)
</a>
3616 <p>Tirsdag
2012-
10-
09 sendte jeg følgende leserinnlegg til avisen
3617 <a href=
"http://www.fremover.no/">Fremover
</a>, etter å ha vært nordpå
3618 noen dager og lest noen gamle aviser. Publiserer den her i sin helhet
3619 for fremtidig referanse. Fremover publiserer dessverre ikke
3620 leserinnlegg på nett.
</p>
3623 <p>To: redaksjon (at) fremover.no
3624 <br>Subject: Leserinnlegg til Fremover: Skolelinux noe for Ballangen?
</p>
3626 <p>Ærede redaktør
</p>
3628 <p>I sommer (
2012-
07-
23) hadde Fremover et oppslag om at Narvik
3629 kommune hadde spart mellom
10 og
20 millioner kroner de siste årene på
3630 å bruke Skolelinux på sine skoler. Harstad har også tatt i bruk
3631 Skolelinux på alle sine skoler. Som tidligere Ballangsværing gledet
3632 det meg stort å se at skoleløsningen vi har utviklet siden
2001 tas i
3633 bruk i området der jeg vokste opp, og dermed bidrar til en bedre og
3634 billigere skolehverdag.
</p>
3636 <p>Skolelinux er en komplett IT-løsning for elevnettverket på en
3637 skole, med både nettverkstjenester og løsning for elevmaskiner med
3638 pedagogisk programvare, som tillater en å øke levetiden på en
3639 datamaskin i skolen med mange år. En undersøkelse publisert i mars
3640 2012 viste at de
56 norske skolene som har offentliggjort at de bruker
3641 Skolelinux eller annen Linuxutgave hadde
36% større PC-tetthet enn
3642 landsgjennomsnittet, når en ser på tall rapportert til Grunnskolens
3643 Informasjonssystem. I følge Paul Reidar Løsnesløkken, IKT-konsulent i
3644 Nord-Odal, fungerer datamaskiner godt til de er
8 til
10 år gamle.
</p>
3646 <p>I høst (
2012-
09-
29) fortalte Fremover hvordan Ballangen kommune har
3647 opparbeidet seg
20 millioner i underskudd og nok havner på Robek-lista
3648 fra nyttår. Kanskje Ballangen også burde ta i bruk Skolelinux for å
3649 spare penger? Hvis kommunen mangler kompetanse lokalt på Linux finnes
3650 det kommersielle selskaper som tilbyr driftstjenester rundt
3651 Skolelinux, og jeg bør vel avsløre at jeg selv er involvert i et av
3652 dem, Skolelinux Drift AS. Kommunen kan dermed få hjelp hvis de ikke
3653 ønsker å bygge opp egen kompetanse.
</p>
3656 <br>Petter Reinholdtsen
3657 <br>Fri programvareutvikler
</p>
3663 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Linux_skoler_har_h_yere_PC_tetthet_enn_landsgjennomsnittet___pressemelding_fra_FRiSK.html">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Linux_skoler_har_h_yere_PC_tetthet_enn_landsgjennomsnittet___pressemelding_fra_FRiSK.html
</a></li>
3664 <li><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gladoppslag_om_Skolelinux_i_avisen_Fremover.html">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gladoppslag_om_Skolelinux_i_avisen_Fremover.html
</a></li>
3670 <p>Innlegget ble så vidt jeg vet trykket i papirutgaven et par dager
3671 senere, men jeg har ikke sett det selv.
</p>
3677 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
3682 <div class=
"padding"></div>
3686 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Trengs_flere_frivillige_til_korrektur_av_den_frie_norske_stavekontrollen.html">Trengs flere frivillige til korrektur av den frie norske stavekontrollen
</a>
3692 <p><a href=
"http://no.speling.org/">Den frie norske stavekontrollen
</a>
3693 består av ca.
1,
3 millioner bokmåls- og nynorskord. Det er mange
3694 kilder til ordene, f.eks. den norske ordbanken, norske nett-aviser,
3695 stavekontrollbrukere og korrekturlesere, og endel feil har sneket seg
3696 inn i databasen over ord. For å finne og fikse feilene trengs det
3697 korrekturlesing. Her kommer frivillige inn.
</p>
3699 <p>Hvis du vil bidra med korrektur av orddatabasen, kan du melde deg
3700 frivillig som bokmåls- eller nynorskkorrekturleser og få tilsendt en
3701 liten bunke ord på epost hver dag, lese over og sende inn på epost
3702 tilbake til korrekturlesing-systemet. Jo flere som sjekker, jo
3703 raskere kommer vi igjennom hele databasen. Så langt har vi oppdaget
3704 341 bokmålsord og
50 nynorskord som ikke skal vært med i databasen.
3705 Det er nok noen flere. I tillegg har korrekturleserne oppdaget flere
3706 ord som manglet, og fått lagt dem inn i stavekontrollen.
</p>
3708 <p>Hvis du vil bidra, følg instruksene på
3709 <a href=
"http://no.speling.org/dokumentasjon.html">prosjektsidene
</a>
3711 for nye bidragsytere, og ta kontakt med Håvard eller epostlisten
3712 <a href=
"https://lister.ping.uio.no/mailman/listinfo/i18n-no">i18n-no
</a>.
3713 Gode norskkunnskaper er en fordel, og vilje til å sjekke
3714 <a href=
"http://www.nob-ordbok.uio.no/perl/ordbok.cgi">ordboka
</a> et
3721 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll
</a>.
3726 <div class=
"padding"></div>
3730 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Ny_utgave__v2_1__av_den_frie_norske_stavekontrollen_gitt_ut.html">Ny utgave (v2.1) av den frie norske stavekontrollen gitt ut
</a>
3736 <p>I helga fikk jeg endelig pakket sammen en ny versjon av den norske
3737 stavekontrollen, og gikk ut versjon
2.1 etter at det var gått fire og
3738 et halvt år siden sist. I dag fikk vi sendt ut annonseringen. Her er
3739 det vi sendte ut:
</p>
3741 <p>Oslo,
2012-
10-
02</p>
3743 <p><strong>Pressemelding: Ny utgave av norsk stavekontroll med
3744 synonymordliste
</strong></p>
3746 <p>Mer enn fire år etter at forrige utgave av den frie norske
3747 stavekontrollen ble utgitt, er en ny og forbedret versjon klar. Dette er
3748 noe utviklerne er veldig glade for.
</p>
3750 <p>Den største endringen er at byggesystemet for stavekontrollen er
3751 skrevet om til å akseptere ord med bindestrek (f.eks. «e-post»). Litt
3752 over
10.000 slike ordformer er lagt til i orddatabasen. I tillegg er
3753 det kommet en del nye ord og rettelser rapportert inn av de frivillige
3754 som gjennomfører korrektur av orddatabasen i prosjektet. For å få
3755 fortgang i dette korrekturarbeidet er det fint med flere frivillige
3756 som kan bidra i prosjektet.
</p>
3759 - En god og fritt tilgjengelig stavekontroll er en viktig byggestein
3760 for å fremme bruken av korrekt norsk språk, sier prosjektdeltager
3761 Petter Reinholdtsen.
3764 <p>Takket være samarbeidet med synonymordlisteprosjektet er
3765 synonymordlista for bokmål tilgjengelig sammen med ordlista for bokmål
3766 og nynorsk. En synonymordliste for nynorsk er også med, men den er på
3767 prøvestadiet og meget liten.
</p>
3769 <p>Stavekontrollpakken og synonymordlistene brukes i
3770 LibreOffice/OpenOffice.org, Koffice, Mozilla Thunderbird, Firefox og
3771 en rekke andre programmer, og på både Windows, Mac OS X, Linux og
3774 <p>Det hele utgis under den frie lisensen GPL og kan fritt lastes ned
3775 fra prosjektsidene på
3776 <a href=
"http://no.speling.org">no.speling.org
</a>. Ferdige pakker for
3777 LibreOffice/OpenOffice.org er også tilgjengelige fra samme sted.
</p>
3779 <p>Det norske stavekontrollprosjektet er i kontakt med lignende
3780 prosjekter for blant annet å forbedre stavekontrollteknologien, å
3781 utveksle verktøy for vedlikehold av orddatabasen og å få tilgang til
3782 relevante datasett. Et av disse prosjektene er et separat prosjekt ved
3783 Sametinget som er i gang med å utvikle samisk stavekontroll for blant
3784 annet Microsoft Word og OpenOffice.org.
</p>
3786 <p>Et søsterprosjekt for å lage grammatikk-kontroll for
3787 LibreOffice/OpenOffice.org er igangsatt, men har ennå ikke kommet
3788 langt nok til å brukes. Frivillige til å bidra i dette prosjektet er
3789 også svært velkomne.
</p>
3791 <p><strong>Kontaktperson
</strong></p>
3794 Axel Bojer, prosjektdeltager
3795 <br>E-post: fri_programvare (at) bojer.no
3796 <br>Tlf: +
47 954 32 417
3799 <p><strong>Referanser
</strong></p>
3803 <li>Det frie norske stavekontrollprosjektet for bokmål og nynorsk:
3804 <a href=
"http://no.speling.org">http://no.speling.org
</a></li>
3805 <li>Samiske korrekturverktøy:
3806 <a href=
"http://divvun.no/">http://divvun.no/
</a></li>
3807 <li>Ordlistene fra Norsk ordbank:
3808 <a href=
"http://www.edd.uio.no/prosjekt/ordbanken/">http://www.edd.uio.no/prosjekt/ordbanken/
</a></li>
3809 <li>Last ned ordlistene:
3810 <a href=
"http://alioth.debian.org/frs/?group_id=30577">http://alioth.debian.org/frs/?group_id=
30577</a>
3811 (PS: no_NO-pack2 for OOo
2.x))
</li>
3814 <p><strong>Fra NEWS-fila i kildekodepakken
</strong></p>
3816 <p>Release
2.1 (
2012-
09-
30)
</p>
3820 <li>Switch to new version scheme. Make new version
2.1, not
2.0.11. We do not
3821 release often enough to justify three digits.
</li>
3822 <li>Switch build rules to build OOo v2 thesaurus files, as the v1 build rules
3823 no longer work. This require the libmythes-dev package on Debian.
</li>
3824 <li>Introduce new Makefile variables hyphendir and thesdir to make it easier to
3825 control where to install these.
</li>
3826 <li>Change script used to import from no.speling.org, to load new word
3827 boundaries if at least two people believed the boundaries was correct.
</li>
3828 <li>Added word boundaries for several words (around
500 words) using the
3829 updated script.
</li>
3830 <li>Imported thesarus for bokmål from synonymer.merg.net.
</li>
3831 <li>Rewrote build rules to use = instead of - as combined word marker, thus
3832 allowing words like e-post.
</li>
3833 <li>Imported a lot (around
10k words) of new words with dash (-) in them from
3834 no.speling.org now that it is handled by the build system.
</li>
3841 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll
</a>.
3846 <div class=
"padding"></div>
3850 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Giorgio_Pioda.html">Debian Edu interview: Giorgio Pioda
</a>
3856 <p>After a long break in my row of interviews with people in the
3857 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a>
3858 community, I finally found time to wrap up another. This time it is
3859 Giorgio Pioda, which showed up on the mailing list at the start of
3860 this year, asking questions and inspiring us to improve the first time
3861 administrators experience with Skolelinux. :) The interview was
3862 conduced in May, but I only found time to publish it now.
</p>
3864 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
3866 <p>I have a PhD in chemistry but since several years I work as teacher
3867 in secondary (
15-
18 year old students) and tertiary (a kind of "light"
3868 university) schools. Five years ago I started to manage a Learning
3869 Management Service server and slowly I got more and more involved with
3870 IT.
3 years ago the graduating schools moved completely to Linux and I
3871 got the head of the IT for this. The experience collected in chemistry
3872 labs computers (for example NMR analysis of protein folding) and in
3873 the IT-courses during university where sufficient to start. Self
3874 training is anyway very important
</p>
3876 <p>I live in the Italian speaking part of Switzerland, and the
3877 <a href=
"http://www.spse.ch/">SPSE school
</a> (secondary) is a very
3878 special sport school for young people who try to became sport pro (for
3879 all sports, we have dozens of disciplines represented) and we are
3880 recognised by the Olympic Swiss Organisation.
3882 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
3883 project?
</strong></p>
3885 <p>Looking for Linux / Primary Domain Controller (PDC) I found it
3886 already several years ago. But since the system was still not
3887 Kerberized and since our schools relies strongly on laptops I didn't
3888 use it. I plan to introduce it in the next future, probably for the
3889 next school year, since the squeeze release solved this security
3892 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
3895 <p>Many. First of all there is a strong and living community that is
3896 very generous for help and hints. Chat help is crucial, together with
3897 the mailing list. Second. With Skolelinux you get an already well
3898 engineered platform and you don't have to start to build up your PDC
3899 and your clients from GNU/scratch; I've already done this once and I
3900 can tell it, it is hard. Third, since Skolelinux is a standard
3901 platform, it is way easier to educate other IT people and even if the
3902 head IT is sick another one could pick up the task without too much
3905 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
3908 <p>The only real problem I see is that it is a little too less
3909 flexible at client level. Debian stable is rocky and desirable, but
3910 there are many reasons that force for another choice. For example the
3911 need of new drivers for new PC, or the need for a specific OS for some
3912 devices that have specific software packages for another specific
3913 distribution (I have such a case for whiteboards that have only
3914 Ubuntu packages). Thus, I prepared compatibility packages educlient
3915 and eduroaming, hoping not to use them ;-)
</p>
3917 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
3919 <p>I have a Debian Stable PDC at school (Kerberos, NIS, NFS) with
3920 mixed Debian and Ubuntu clients. If you think that this triad
3921 combination is exotic... well I discovered right yesterday that
3922 <a href=
"http://moo.nac.uci.edu/~hjm/Perceus-Report.html">Perceus
</a>
3925 <p>For myself I run Debian wheezy/sid, but this combination is good
3926 only I you have enough competence to fix stuff for yourself, if
3927 something breaks. Daily I use texmacs, gnumeric, a little bit of R
3928 statistics, kmplot, and less frequently OpenOffice.org.
</p>
3930 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
3931 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
3933 <P>I think that the only real argument that school managers "hear" is
3934 cost reduction. They don't give too much weight on quality, stability,
3935 just because they are normally not open to change.
</p>
3937 <p>Students adapts very quickly to GNU/Linux (and for them being able
3938 to switch between different OS is a plus value); teachers and managers
3941 <p>We decided to move to Linux because students at our school have own
3942 laptop and we have the responsibility to keep the laptop ready to use;
3943 we were really unsatisfied with Microsoft since every Monday we had
20
3944 machine to fix for viral infections... With Linux this has been
3945 reduced to zero, since people installs almost only from official
3946 repositories. I think that our special needs brought us to Linux.
3947 Those who don't have such needs will hardly move to Linux.
</p>
3953 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
3958 <div class=
"padding"></div>
3962 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gladoppslag_om_Skolelinux_i_avisen_Fremover.html">Gladoppslag om Skolelinux i avisen Fremover
</a>
3968 <p>I sommer hadde avisen
<a href=
"http://www.fremover.no/">Fremover
</a>
3969 et flott oppslag om bruken av
3970 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a> på alle skolene
3971 der. Artikkelen var på trykk på side
4 og
5 i papirutgaven
3972 2012-
07-
23, men mangler dessverre i nettutgaven av avisen. Mine
3973 henvendelser til avisen for å få artikkelen på nett har så langt ikke
3976 <p>Artikkelen med tittelen "Narvik kommune bruker gratisprogram i
3977 skolen - Har spart millioner", forteller om hvordan bruken av
3978 Skolelinux er en stor suksess i Narvik siden det ble tatt i bruk i
3979 2004. Her er noen fine sitater:
</p>
3982 "- Skolelinux har spart kommunen for store pengesummer, millionbeløp,
3983 som de heller kan bruke på andre ting, sier IKT-konsulent Viggo
3987 <p>Avisen forteller at de har fått tilgang til beregninger som viser
3988 at Narvik kommune har spart noe mellom
10 og
20 millioner kroner de
3989 siste
8 årene på å bruke Skolelinux, og fortsetter:
</p>
3993 "Regnestykket tar høyde for sparte kostnader til lisenser som medfølger
3994 de alternative operativsystemene, lavere driftskostnader og lengre
3995 levetid på datautstyret. Totalt har Narvikskolen en maskinpark på
3996 1600 maskiner fordelt på de
11 skolene fra Skjomen i sør til Bjerkvik
4001 <p>Viggo Fedreheim sier dette om hvor noe av gevinsten kommer fra:
</p>
4004 "- Vi kan gjenbruke gamle maskiner i skolen som er for dårlig andre
4005 steder i kommunen der de ikke bruker Skolelinux. Levetiden på en
4006 datamaskin blir
3-
5 år lenger med Skolelinux. Vi kaller det for
4007 grønn IT, miljøvennlig IT."
4010 <p>Her er det mulighet for flere kommuner å få et godt IT-system på
4011 skolene, hvis de er villige til å forsøke. De som ikke har kompetanse
4012 innomhus kan kjøpe det fra en av de kommersielle leverandørene av
4013 Skolelinux-tjenester, som
<a href=
"http://www.slxdrift.no/">Skolelinux
4014 Drift AS
</a> (der jeg er styremedlem). Komplett liste er tilgjengelig
4016 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Help/ProfessionalHelp">wikien
</a>.
</p>
4018 <p>Update
2012-
08-
16: Today I was allowed by Fremover to put the PDF I
4019 received from them with a copy of the article on the Internet. It is
4020 <a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/press/2012-07-23-fremover-narvik.pdf">now
4021 available
</a> in the Skolelinux press archive.
</p>
4027 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
4032 <div class=
"padding"></div>
4036 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Tips_for___bli_med_i_Skolelinux_prosjektet__som_faktisk_er_aktivt_.html">Tips for å bli med i Skolelinux-prosjektet (som faktisk er aktivt)
</a>
4042 <p>Jeg fikk nettopp spørsmål på epost om Skolelinux-prosjektet lever
4043 fra en som var interessert i å bidra, og måtte jo konstatere at i og
4044 med at spørsmålet ble stilt har prosjektet ikke lyktes med å formidle
4045 sin aktivitet. Her er det jeg svarte:
</p>
4048 <p>Jada,
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux-prosjektet
</a>
4049 lever, men det meste av utvikling foregår nå under paraplyen
4050 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/">Debian Edu
</a> som er det
4051 internasjonale navnet på prosjektet. Dugnaden i Norge organiseres av
4053 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">Fri programvare i
4054 Skolen
</a>, og det finnes minst ett selskap som selger kommersiell
4055 support på løsningen (
<a href=
"http://www.slxdrift.no/">Skolelinux
4056 Drift AS
</a>, der jeg er styremedlem). Anbefaler at du melder deg på
4058 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/">debian-edu@lists.debian.org
</a>
4059 (og debian-edu-announce) og
4060 <a href=
"http://medlem.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">melder deg inn i
4061 foreningen
</a> for å få beskjed om aktivitet som planlegges. Det
4063 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/Gathering">utviklersamlinger
4064 i august
</a> og utover høsten.
</p>
4066 <p>Bidra gjerne med å spre ordet om Skolelinux. Det er alt for få som
4067 bidrar til pressedekning, bloggposter, twittermeldinger, etc. :)
</p>
4069 <p>Jeg antar du har funnet
4070 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju/">bloggserien
4071 min med intervjuer
</a>. Det er antagelig også interessant for deg å
4072 følge med på
<a href=
"http://planet.skolelinux.org/">Planet
4075 <p>Hm, jeg burde vel blogge alle disse lenkene slik at de blir enklere
4078 <p>Herved gjort. :)
</p>
4084 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
4089 <div class=
"padding"></div>
4093 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__George_Bredberg.html">Debian Edu interview: George Bredberg
</a>
4099 <p>The
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu /
4100 Skolelinux
</a> project have users all over the globe, but until
4101 recently we have not known about any users in Norway's neighbour
4102 country Sweden. This changed when George Bredberg showed up in March
4103 this year on the mailing list, asking interesting questions about how
4104 to adjust and scale the just released
4105 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120311.html">Debian Edu
4106 Wheezy
</a> setup to his liking. He granted me an interview, and I am
4107 happy to share his answers with you here.
</p>
4109 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
4111 <p>I'm a
44 year old country guy that have been working
12 years at
4112 the same school as
50% IT-manager and
50% Teacher. My educational
4113 background is fil.kand in history and religious beliefs, an exam as a
4114 "folkhighschool" teacher, that is, for teaching grownups. In
4115 Norwegian I believe it's called "Vuxenupplaring". I also have a master
4116 in "Technology and social change". So I'm not really a tech guy, I
4117 just like to study how humans and technology interact and that is my
4118 perspective when working with IT.
</p>
4120 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
4121 project?
</strong></p>
4123 I have followed the Skolelinux project for quite some time by
4124 now. Earlier I tested out the K12-LTSP project, which we used for some
4125 time, but I really like the idea of having a distribution aimed to be
4126 a complete solution for schools with necessary tools integrated. When
4127 K12-LTSP abandoned that idea some years ago, I started to look more
4128 seriously into Skolelinux instead.
4130 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
4133 The big point of Skolelinux to me is that it is a complete
4134 distribution, ready to install. It has LDAP-support, MS Windows
4135 integration tools and so forth already configured, saving an
4136 administrator a lot of time and headache. We were using another Linux
4137 based thin-client system called Thinlinc, that has served us very
4138 well. But that Skolelinux is based on VNC and LTSP, to me, is better
4139 when it comes to the kind of multimedia used in schools. That is
4140 showing videos from Youtube or educational TV. It is also easier to
4141 mix thin clients with workstations, since the user settings will be the
4142 same. In our VNC-based solution you had to "beat around the bush" by
4143 setting up a second, hidden, home-directory for user settings for the
4144 workstations, because they will be different from the ones used on the
4145 thin clients. Skolelinux support for diskless workstations are very
4146 convenient since a school today often need to use a class room
4147 projector showing videos in full screen. That is easily done with a
4148 small integrated media computer running as a diskless workstation. You
4149 have only two installs to update and configure. One for the thin
4150 clients and one for the workstations. Also saving a lot of time. Our
4151 old system was also based on Redhat and CentOS. They are both very
4152 nice distributions, but they are sometimes painfully slow when it
4153 comes to updating multimedia support and multimedia programs (even
4154 such as Gimp), leaving us with a bit "oldish" applications. Debian is
4157 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
4160 <p>Debian is a bit too quick when it comes to updating. As an example
4161 we use old HP terminals as thinclients, and two times already this
4162 year (
2012) the updates you get from the repositories has stopped
4163 sound from working with them. It's a kernel/ALSA issue. So you have
4164 to be more careful properly testing the updates before you run them in
4165 a production environment. This has never happened with CentOS.
</p>
4167 <p>I also would like to be able to set my own domain-settings at
4168 install time. In Skolelinux they are kind of hard coded into the
4169 distribution, when it comes to LDAP and at least samba integration.
4170 That is more a cosmetic/translation issue, and not a real problem.
4171 Running MS Windows applications within the Skolelinux environment needs
4172 to be better supported. That is, running them seamlessly via RDP, and
4173 support for single-sign on. That will make the transition to free
4174 software easier, because you can keep the applications you really
4175 need. No support will make it impossible if you work in a school where
4176 some applications can't be open source. As for us we really need to
4177 run Adobe InDesign in our journalist classes. We run a journalist
4178 education, and is one of the very few non university ones that is ok:d
4179 by Svenska journalistförbundet (Swedish journalist association). Our
4180 education gives the pupils the right of membership there, once they
4181 are done. This is important if you want to get a job.
</p>
4183 <p>Adobe InDesign is the program most commonly used in newspapers and
4184 magazines. We used Quark Express before, but they seem to loose there
4185 market to Adobe. The only "equivalent" to InDesign in the opensource
4186 world is Scribus, and its not advanced enough. At least not according
4187 to the teacher. I think it would be possible to use it, because they
4188 are not supposed to learn a program, they are supposed to learn how to
4189 edit and compile a newspaper. But politically at our school we are not
4190 there yet. And Scribus lacks a lot of things you find i InDesign.
</p>
4192 <p>We used even a windows program for sound editing when it comes to
4193 the radio-journalist part. The year to come we are going to try
4194 Audacity. That software has the same kind of limitations compared to
4195 Adobe Audition, but that teacher is a bit more open minded. We have
4196 tried Ardour also, but that instead is more like a music studio
4197 program, not intended for the kind of editing taking place in a radio
4198 studio. Its way to complex and the GUI is to scattered when you only
4199 want to cut, make pass-overs, add extra channels and normalise. Those
4200 things you can do in Audacity, but its not as easy as in Audition. You
4201 have to do more things manually with envelopes, and that is a bit old
4202 fashion and timewasting. Its also harder to cut and move sound from
4203 one channel to another, which is a thing that you do frequently
4204 because you often find yourself needing to rearrange parts of the
4207 <p>So, I am not sure we will succeed in replacing even Audition, but we
4208 will try. The problem is the students have certain expectations when
4209 they start an education towards a profession. So the programs has to
4210 look and feel professional. Good thing with radio, there are many
4211 programs out there, that radio studios use, so its not as standardised
4212 as Newspaper editing. That means, it does not really matter what
4213 program they learn, because once they start working they still have to
4214 learn the program the studio uses, so instead focus has to be to learn
4215 the editing part without to much focus on a specific software.
</p>
4217 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
4219 <p>Myself I'm running Linux Mint, or Ubuntu these days. I use almost
4220 only open source software, and preferably Linux based. When it comes
4221 to most used applications its OpenOffice, and Firefox (of course ;)
4224 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
4225 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
4227 <p>To get schools to use free software there has to be good open
4228 source software that are windows based, to ease the transition. But
4229 it's also very important that the multimedia support is working
4230 flawlessly. The problems with Youtube, Twitter, Facebook and whatever
4231 will create problems when it comes to both teachers and
4232 students. Economy are also important for schools, so using thin
4233 clients, as long as they have good multimedia support, is a very good
4234 idea. It's also important that the open source software works even for
4235 the administration. It's hard to convince the teachers to stick with
4236 open source, if the principal has to run Windows. It also creates a
4237 problem if some classes has to use Windows for there tasks, since that
4238 will create a difference in "status" between classes, so a good
4239 support for running windows applications via the thin client (Linux)
4240 desktop is essential. At least at our school, where we have mixed
4241 level of educations, from high-school to journalist-school.
</p>
4243 <p>Update
2012-
07-
09 08:
30: Paul Wise tipped me on IRC about three
4244 useful sources related to Free Software for radio stations: the LWN
4245 article
<a href=
"https://lwn.net/Articles/481607/">Radio station
4246 management with Airtime
</a>,
4247 <a href=
"http://www.sourcefabric.org/en/airtime/">Airtime
</a> which
4248 claim to be a Free open source radio automation software and
4249 <a href=
"http://www.rivendellaudio.org/">Rivendell
</a> which claim to
4250 be complete radio broadcast automation solution. All of them seem
4251 useful to the aspiring radio producer.
</p>
4257 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
4262 <div class=
"padding"></div>
4266 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Why_do_schools_waste_money_on_IT_.html">Why do schools waste money on IT?
</a>
4272 <p>In the Debian Edu / Skolelinux project, we have realised that one
4273 of the major blockers for the project success is the purchasing skills
4274 in schools and municipalities. We provide what the happy users of
4275 Debian Edu / Skolelinux say they need and to a lower cost than the
4276 alternatives, and yet so few schools decide to use our solution. I
4277 was pleased to discover the same observation done by mySociety and Tom
4278 Steinberg in his blog post
4279 "
<a href=
"http://www.mysociety.org/2012/06/19/can-you-recognize-the-million-pound-chair/">Can
4280 you recognize the million pound chair?
</a>". Read it and weep for the
4281 spending of your tax money.</p>
4283 <p>Of course there are other factors involved as well, like our
4284 projects bad marketing skills and the Linux community fragmentation
4285 causing worry with the people on the outside, so we as a project need
4286 to keep working hard to gain users, but it is a up-hill battle when
4287 public decision makers are unable to understand computer system
4294 Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu
">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english
">english</a>.
4299 <div class="padding
"></div>
4303 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Free_Timetabling_Software___nice_free_software.html
">Free Timetabling Software - nice free software</a>
4309 <p>Included in <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Debian Edu /
4310 Skolelinux</a> is a large collection of end user and school specific
4311 software. It is one of the packages not installed by default but
4312 provided in the Debian archive for schools to install if they want to,
4313 is a system to automatically plan the school time table using
4314 information about available teachers, classes and rooms, combined with
4315 the list of required courses and how many hours each topic should
4316 receive. The software is
4318 <a href="http://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/
">named FET</a>, and it provide a
4319 graphical user interface to input the required information, save the
4320 result in a fairly simple XML format, and generate time tables for
4321 both teachers and students. It is available both for
4322 <a href="http://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/download.html
">Linux, MacOSX and
4325 <p>This is <a href="http://lalescu.ro/liviu/fet/features.html
">the
4326 feature list</a>, liftet from the project web site:</p>
4330 <li>FET is free software, licensed under the GNU GPL v2 or later.
4331 You can freely use, copy, modify and redistribute it </li>
4333 <li>Localized to en_US (US English, default), ar (Arabic), ca
4334 (Catalan), da (Danish), de (German), el (Greek), es (Spanish), fa
4335 (Persian), fr (French), gl (Galician), he (Hebrew), hu
4336 (Hungarian), id (Indonesian), it (Italian), lt (Lithuanian), mk
4337 (Macedonian), ms (Malay), nl (Dutch), pl (Polish), pt_BR
4338 (Brazilian Portuguese), ro (Romanian), ru (Russian), si (Sinhala),
4339 sk (Slovak), sr (Serbian), tr (Turkish), uk (Ukrainian), uz
4340 (Uzbek) and vi (Vietnamese) (incompletely for some languages)
4343 <li>Fully automatic generation algorithm, allowing also
4344 semi-automatic or manual allocation</li>
4346 <li>Platform independent implementation, allowing running on
4347 GNU/Linux, Windows, Mac and any system that Qt supports </li>
4349 <li>Flexible modular XML format for the input file, allowing editing
4350 with an XML editor or by hand (besides FET interface)</li>
4352 <li>Import/export from CSV format</li>
4354 <li>The resulted timetables are exported into HTML, XML and CSV
4357 <li>Flexible students structure, organized into sets: years, groups
4358 and subgroups. FET allows overlapping years and groups and
4359 non-overlapping subgroups. You can even define individual students
4360 (as separate sets)</li>
4362 <li>Each constraint has a weight percentage, from 0.0% to 100.0%
4363 (but some special constraints are allowed to have only 100% weight
4366 <li>Limits for the algorithm (all these limits can be increased on
4367 demand, as a custom version, because this would require a bit more
4370 <li>Maximum total number of hours (periods) per day: 60</li>
4371 <li>Maximum number of working days per week: 35</li>
4372 <li>Maximum total number of teachers: 6000</li>
4373 <li>Maximum total number of sets of students: 30000</li>
4374 <li>Maximum total number of subjects: 6000</li>
4375 <li>Virtually unlimited number of activity tags</li>
4376 <li>Maximum number of activities: 30000</li>
4377 <li>Maximum number of rooms: 6000</li>
4378 <li>Maximum number of buildings: 6000</li>
4379 <li>Possibility of adding multiple teachers and
4380 students sets for each activity. (it is possible
4381 also to have no teachers or no students sets for an
4383 <li>Virtually unlimited number of time constraints</li>
4384 <li>Virtually unlimited number of space constraints</li>
4387 <li>A large and flexible palette of time constraints:
4389 <li>Break periods</li>
4392 <li>Not available periods</li>
4393 <li>Max/min days per week</li>
4394 <li>Max gaps per day/week</li>
4395 <li>Max hours daily/continuously</li>
4396 <li>Min hours daily</li>
4397 <li>Max hours daily/continuously with an activity tag</li>
4399 <li>Respect working in an hourly interval a max number of
4402 <li>For students (sets):
4404 <li>Not available periods</li>
4405 <li>Begins early (specify max allowed beginnings at second hour)</li>
4406 <li>Max gaps per day/week</li>
4407 <li>Max hours daily/continuously</li>
4408 <li>Min hours daily</li>
4409 <li>Max hours daily/continuously with an activity tag</li>
4411 <li>Respect working in an hourly interval a max number of
4414 <li>For an activity or a set of activities/subactivities:
4416 <li>A single preferred starting time</li>
4417 <li>A set of preferred starting times</li>
4418 <li>A set of preferred time slots</li>
4419 <li>Min/max days between them</li>
4420 <li>End(s) students day</li>
4421 <li>Same starting time/day/hour</li>
4422 <li>Occupy max time slots from selection (a complex and
4423 flexible constraint, useful in many situations)</li>
4424 <li>Consecutive, ordered, grouped (for 2 or 3 (sub)activities)</li>
4425 <li>Not overlapping</li>
4426 <li>Max simultaneous in selected time slots</li>
4427 <li>Min gaps between a set of (sub)activities</li>
4431 <li>A large and flexible palette of space constraints:
4433 <li>Room not available periods</li>
4436 <li>Home room(s)</li>
4437 <li>Max building changes per day/week</li>
4438 <li>Min gaps between building changes</li>
4442 <li>For students (sets):
4444 <li>Home room(s)</li>
4445 <li>Max building changes per day/week</li>
4446 <li>Min gaps between building changes</li>
4449 <li>Preferred room(s):
4451 <li>For a subject</li>
4452 <li>For an activity tag</li>
4453 <li>For a subject and an activity tag</li>
4454 <li>Individually for a (sub)activity</li>
4458 <li>For a set of activities:
4460 <li>Occupy a maximum number of different rooms</li>
4467 <p>I have not used it myself, as I am not involved in time table
4468 planning at a school, but it seem to work fine when I test it. If you
4469 need to set up your schools time table, and is tired of doing it
4470 manually, check it out.
4472 A quick summary on how to use it can be found in
4473 <a href="http://marvelsoft.co.in/wp/
2012/
03/generate-timetable-for-state-cbse-icse-igcse-schools-free/
">a
4474 blog post from MarvelSoft</a>. If you find FET useful, please provide
4475 a recipe for the Debian Edu project in the
4476 <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu#Howtos
">Debian Edu HowTo
4483 Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu
">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english
">english</a>.
4488 <div class="padding
"></div>
4492 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Markus_Gamenius.html
">Skolelinux-intervju: Markus Gamenius</a>
4498 <p>Tidligere leder av
4499 <a href="http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no
">foreningen som
4500 organiserer Skolelinux-dugnaden</a>, Markus Gamenius , har i vår vært
4502 <a href="http://www.dn.no/privatokonomi/article2345489.ece
">debattert
4503 skattepolitikk</a>, og det fikk meg til å høre om han kunne lokkes til
4504 å fortelle om hans inntrykk nå, etter at han ble lokket bort fra
4505 Linux- og <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux</a>-verden
4506 for å overta familiebedriften. Her har vi hans betraktninger i dag,
4507 noen måneder etter at
4508 <a href="http://www.debian.org/News/
2012/
20120311.html
">Skolelinux
4509 Squeeze</a>-utgaven ble gitt ut.</p>
4511 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?</strong></p>
4513 <p>Jeg heter Markus Gamenius og er 40 år. Utdannet biolog med ymse
4514 fag på siden. Har jobbet som lærer der jeg var driftsansvarlig på
4515 Ulsrud VGS i Oslo. Senere eide og jobbet jeg flere år i Linuxlabs AS,
4516 som jeg solgte til Redpill Linpro AS (den gangen Linpro AS). I dag
4517 jobber jeg med ulike investeringer, hovedsaklig i eiendom, men også i
4518 en del ulike IT-relaterte bedrifter.</p>
4520 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?</strong></p>
4522 <p>Fruen og jeg dro på en lengre seiltur i 2000, der jeg måtte ha "noe
4523 å gjøre" under hjemturen over Atlanteren. Jeg kjøpte et par bøker om
4524 Linux i en bokhandel i New York og ble veldig fascinert. Etter
4525 hjemkomsten begynte jeg å jobbe på Ulsrud VGS, som naturfagslærer, men
4526 som IT-interessert ble jeg fort en del av den nye IT-satsningen som
4527 skulle løfte Ulsrud og gi skolen en bedre rykte. Vi hadde ganske
4528 mange maskiner, som gikk på Win98 og to servere som ble oppgradert til
4529 Win2000. Systemene var ustabil og dårlige. På leting etter noe
4530 bedre, uten å knekke ryggen økonomisk, kom jeg over "Linux i Skolen"
4531 og Skolelinux. Jeg tok kontakt med miljøet og en gjeng møtte opp på
4532 skolen, der vi gjorde en liten testinstallasjon. Etter et par år var
4533 ryggraden på skolen Linux (Skolelinux) og vi hadde flere hundre
4534 maskiner, både tynne klienter (gamle og nye), bærbare (Debian) og noen
4535 stasjonære (Win2000). På et tidspunkt var Ulsrud den råeste IT-skolen
4536 og det irriterte skolesjefen i Oslo, da de satset hardt på
4539 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
4541 <p>Det som gjorde at vi fikk inn Skolelinux var ene og alene
4542 økonomiske. Det faktum at vi slapp å kjøpe masse nye lisenser og at
4543 vi kunne bruke gammel hardware. Alt i alt gjorde dette at vi sparte
4544 mye, men i stede for å bruke mindre på IT brukte vi det vi sparte på å
4545 skaffe mer hardware og på den måten gi det beste tilbudet i landet til
4546 våre elever. For oss som driftet var det himmel å ha et system som
4547 gikk å administrere sentralt og effektivt. Det var heller ikke så
4548 dumt at vi kunne "låse" maskinene mer effektivt enn vi kunne med
4549 Microsoft Windows, slik at vi slapp mye feil og problemer som ble
4550 forårsaket av "kreative" elever.
</p>
4552 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
4554 <p>Det vi slet med var mangelen av en del programmer lærerne ville ha.
4555 Husker ikke alle, men det var et knippe med pedagogiske programmer de
4556 ikke fikk. I dag tror jeg det problemet er langt mindre da det meste
4557 av disse kjøres gjennom nettleseren.
</p>
4559 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
4561 <p>Jeg bruker mye Apple i dag og er ikke så stolt av det, men jeg har
4562 både OpenOffice, Firefox og en del andre programmer på den bærbare.
4563 Firefox brukes mest av disse. På Apple-serveren hjemme bruker jeg
4564 HandBrake mye, og jeg har installert OpenWRT på flere av
4565 basestasjonene både hjemme og på jobben. I tillegg til det har jeg i
4566 flere år finansiert et prosjekt som heter
4567 <a href=
"http://www.found.no/">Found IT
</a>. Dette er et prosjekt der
4568 vi lager et rammeverk for søk, der alt vi bruker fri programvare. Det
4569 er Alex Brasetvik som er daglig leder i Found IT.
</p>
4571 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
4572 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
4574 <p>Når det gjelder IT og skole er fortsatt økonomi veldig viktig. Så
4575 man må oppfylle minimumskravene (ikke være best, men bra nok) og selge
4576 seg inn på hvor mye man sparer. Det betyr selvsagt at man sparer på
4577 lisenser, men også på driftsinnsats. Men nå når jeg ikke er en aktiv
4578 del av miljøet lenger hører jeg nesten ingen ting om fri programvare.
4579 Jeg stiller meg da spørsmålet om det har blitt stille rundt miljøet,
4580 eller om jeg kun så det tydeligere før når jeg var aktiv? Uansett er
4581 det for stille rundt Skolelinux-prosjektet nå.
</p>
4587 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
4592 <div class=
"padding"></div>
4596 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Jos__Luis_Redrejo_Rodr_guez.html">Debian Edu interview: José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez
</a>
4602 <p>I've been too busy at home, but finally I found time to wrap up
4603 another interview with the people behind
4604 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a>.
4605 This time we get to know José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez, one of our great
4606 helpers from Spain. His effort was the reason we added support for
4607 several desktop types (KDE, Gnome and most recently LXDE) in Debian
4608 Edu, and have all of these available in the recently published
4609 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120311.html">Debian Edu
4610 Squeeze
</a> version.
</p>
4612 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
4614 <p>I'm a father, teacher and engineer who is working for the Education
4615 ministry of the Region of Extremadura (Spain) in the implementation of
4618 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
4619 project?
</strong></p>
4621 <p>At
2006, I verified that both, we in Extremadura and Skolelinux
4622 project, had been working in parallel for some years, doing very
4623 similar things, using very similar tools and with similar targets, so
4624 I decided it was time to join forces as much as possible.
</p>
4626 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
4629 <p>A community of highly skilled experts working together, with a
4630 really open schema of collaboration and work. I really love the
4631 concepts of Do-ocracy and Merit-ocracy and the way these concepts are
4632 been used everyday inside Debian Edu.
</p>
4634 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
4637 <p>Sometimes the differences in the implementations, laws or
4638 economical and technical resources in the different countries don't
4639 allow us to agree in the same solution for all of us, and several
4640 approaches are needed, what is a waste of effort. Also, there is a
4641 lack of more man power to be able to follow the fast evolution of the
4642 technologies in school.
</p>
4644 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
4646 <p>Debian, of course, and due to my kind of job I am most of my time
4647 between Iceweasel,
<a href=
"http://www.geany.org/">Geany
</a> and
4648 <a href=
"http://www.ohloh.net/p/gnome-terminator">Terminator
</a>.
</p>
4650 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
4651 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
4653 <p>I think there is not a single strategy because there are very
4654 different scenarios: schools with mixed proprietary and free
4655 environments, schools using only workstations, other schools using
4656 laptops, netbooks, tablets, interactive white-boards, etc.
</p>
4658 <p>Also the range of ages of the students is very broad and you can
4659 not use the same solutions for primary schools and secondary or even
4660 universities. So different strategies are needed.
</p>
4662 <p>But, looking at these differences, and looking back to the things
4663 we've done and implemented, and the places were we have spent most of
4664 our forces, I think we should focus as much as possible in free
4665 multi-platform environments, using only standards tools, and moving
4666 more and more to Internet or network solutions that could be deployed
4667 using wireless. I think we'll see more and more personal devices in
4668 the schools, devices the students and teachers will take home with
4669 them, so the solutions must be able to be taken at home and continue
4676 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
4681 <div class=
"padding"></div>
4685 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu___some_ideas_for_the_future_versions.html">Debian Edu - some ideas for the future versions
</a>
4691 <p>During my work on
4692 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120311.nb.html">Debian Edu
4693 based on Squeeze
</a>, I came across some issues that should be
4694 addressed in the Wheezy release. I finally found time to wrap up my
4695 notes and provide quick summary of what I found, with a bit
4700 <li>We need to rewrite our package installation framework, as tasksel
4701 changed from using tasksel tasks to using meta packages (aka packages
4702 with dependencies like our education-* packages), and our installation
4703 system depend on tasksel tasks in
4704 /usr/share/tasksel/debian-edu-tasks.desc for package
4707 <li>Enable Kerberos login for more services. Now with the Kerberos
4708 foundation in place, we should use it to get single sign on with more
4709 services, and avoiding unneeded password / login questions. We should
4710 at least try to enable it for these services:
4713 <li>CUPS for admins to add/configure printers and users when using
4715 <li>Nagios for admins checking the system status.
</li>
4716 <li>GOsa for admins updating LDAP and users changing their passwords.
</li>
4717 <li>LDAP for admins updating LDAP.
</li>
4718 <li>Squid for users when exam mode / filtering is active.
</li>
4719 <li>ssh for admins and users to save a password prompt.
</li>
4723 <li>When we move GOsa to use Kerberos instead of LDAP bind to
4724 authenticate users, we should try to block or at least limit access to
4725 use LDAP bind for authentication, to ensure Kerberos is used when it
4726 is intended, and nothing fall back to using the less safe LDAP bind
</li>
4728 <li>Merge debian-edu-config and debian-edu-install. The split made
4729 sense when d-e-install did a lot more, but these days it is just an
4730 inconvenience when we update the debconf preseeding values.
</li>
4732 <li>Fix partman-auto to allow us to abort the installation before
4733 touching the disk if the disk is too small. This is
4734 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/653305">BTS report #
653305</a> and the
4735 d-i developers are fine with the patch and someone just need to apply
4736 it and upload. After this is done we need to adjust
4737 debian-edu-install to use this new hook.
</li>
4739 <li>Adjust to new LTSP framework (boot time config instead of install
4740 time config). LTSP changed its design, and our hooks to install
4741 packages and update the configuration is most likely not going to work
4744 <li>Consider switching to NBD instead of NFS for LTSP root, to allow
4745 the Kernel to cache files in its normal file cache, possibly speeding
4746 up KDE login on slow networks.
</li>
4748 <li>Make it possible to create expired user passwords that need to
4749 change on first login. This is useful when handing out password on
4750 paper, to make sure only the user know the password. This require
4751 fixes to the PAM handling of kdm and gdm.
</li>
4753 <li>Make GUI for adding new machines automatically from sitesummary.
4754 The current command line script is not very friendly to people most
4755 familiar with GUIs. This should probably be integrated into GOsa to
4756 have it available where the admin will be looking for it..
</li>
4758 <li>We should find way for Nagios to check that the DHCP service
4759 actually is working (as in handling out IP addresses). None of the
4760 Nagios checks I have found so far have been working for me.
</li>
4762 <li>We should switch from libpam-nss-ldapd to sssd for all profiles
4763 using LDAP, and not only on for roaming workstations, to have less
4764 packages to configure and consistent setup across all profiles.
</li>
4766 <li>We should configure Kerberos to update LDAP and Samba password
4767 when changing password using the Kerberos protocol. The hook was
4768 requested in
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/588968">BTS report
4769 #
588968</a> and is now available in Wheezy. We might need to write a
4770 MIT Kerberos plugin in C to get this.
</li>
4772 <li>We should clean up the set of applications installed by default.
4775 <li>reduce the number of chemistry visualisers
</li>
4776 <li>consider dropping xpaint
</li>
4777 <li>and probably more?
</li>
4780 <li>Some hardware need external firmware to work properly. This is
4781 mostly the case for WiFi network cards, but there are some other
4782 examples too. For popular laptops to work out of the box, such
4783 firmware need to be installed from non-free, and we should provide
4784 some GUI to do this. Ubuntu already have this implemented, and we
4785 could consider using their packages. At the moment we have some
4786 command line script to do this (one for the running system, another
4787 for the LTSP chroot).
</li>
4790 <li>In Squeeze, we provide KDE, Gnome and LXDE as desktop options. We
4791 should extend the list to Xfce and Sugar, and preferably find a way to
4792 install several and allow the admin or the user to select which one to
4795 <li>The golearn tool from the goplay package make it easy to check out
4796 interesting educational packages. We should work on the package
4797 tagging in Debian to ensure it represent all the useful educational
4798 packages, and extend the tool to allow it to use packagekit to install
4799 new applications with a simple mouse click.
</li>
4801 <li>The Squeeze version got half a exam solution already in place,
4802 with the introduction of iptable based network blocking, but for it to
4803 be a complete exam solution the Squid proxy need to enable
4804 filtering/blocking as well when the exam mode is enabled. We should
4805 implement a way to easily enable this for the schools that want it,
4806 instead of the "it is documented" method of today.
</li>
4808 <li>A feature used in several schools is the ability for a teacher to
4809 "take over" the desktop of individual or all computers in the room.
4810 There are at least three implementations,
4811 <a href=
"italc.sourceforge.net/">italc
</a>,
4812 <a href=
"http://www.itais.net/help/en/">controlaula
</a> og
4813 <a href=
"http://www.epoptes.org/">epoptes
</a> and we should pick one of
4814 them and make it trivial to set it up in a school. The challenges is
4815 how to distribute crypto keys and how to group computers in one room
4816 and how to set up which machine/user can control the machines in a
4819 <li>Tablets and surf boards are getting more and more popular, and we
4820 should look into providing a good solution for integrating these into
4821 the Debian Edu network. Not quite sure how. Perhaps we should
4822 provide a installation profile with better touch screen support for
4823 them, or add some sync services to allow them to exchange
4824 configuration and data with the central server. This should be
4829 <p>I guess we will discover more as we continue to work on the Wheezy
4836 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
4841 <div class=
"padding"></div>
4845 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Mike_Gabriel.html">Debian Edu interview: Mike Gabriel
</a>
4851 <p>Back in
2010, Mike Gabriel showed up on the
4852 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a>
4853 mailing list. He quickly proved to be a valuable developer, and
4854 thanks to his tireless effort we now have Kerberos integrated into the
4855 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120311.html">Debian Edu
4856 Squeeze
</a> version.
</p>
4858 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
4860 <p>My name is Mike Gabriel, I am
38 years old and live near Kiel,
4861 Schleswig-Holstein, Germany. I live together with a wonderful partner
4862 (Angela Fuß) and two own children and two bonus children (contributed
4865 <p>During the day I am part-time employed as a system administrator
4866 and part-time working as an IT consultant. The consultancy work
4867 touches free software topics wherever and whenever possible. During
4868 the nights I am a free software developer. In the gaps I also train in
4869 becoming an osteopath.
</p>
4871 <p>Starting in
2010 we (Andreas Buchholz, Angela Fuß, Mike Gabriel)
4872 have set up a free software project in the area of Kiel that aims at
4873 introducing free software into schools. The project's name is
4874 "IT-Zukunft Schule" (IT future for schools). The project links IT
4875 skills with communication skills.
</p>
4877 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
4878 project?
</strong></p>
4880 <p>While preparing our own customised Linux distribution for
4881 "IT-Zukunft Schule" we were repeatedly asked if we really wanted to
4882 reinvent the wheel. What schools really need is already available,
4883 people said. From this impulse we started evaluating other Linux
4884 distributions that target being used for school networks.
</p>
4886 <p>At the end we short-listed two approaches and compared them: a
4887 commercial Linux distribution developed by a company in Bremen,
4888 Germany, and Skolelinux / Debian Edu. Between
12/
2010 and
03/
2011 we
4889 went to several events and met people being responsible for marketing
4890 and development of either of the distributions. Skolelinux / Debian
4891 Edu was by far much more convincing compared to the other product that
4892 got short-listed beforehand--across the full spectrum. What was most
4893 attractive for me personally: the perspective of collaboration within
4894 the developmental branch of the Debian Edu project itself.
</p>
4896 <p>In parallel with this, we talked to many local and not-so-local
4897 people. People teaching at schools, headmasters, politicians, data
4898 protection experts, other IT professionals.
</p>
4900 <p>We came to two conclusions:
</p>
4902 <p>First, a technical conclusion: What schools need is available in
4903 bits and pieces here and there, and none of the solutions really fit
4904 by
100%. Any school we have seen has a very individual IT setup
4905 whereas most of each school's requirements could mapped by a standard
4906 IT solution. The requirement to this IT solution is flexibility and
4907 customisability, so that individual adaptations here and there are
4908 possible. In terms of re-distributing and rolling out such a
4909 standardised IT system for schools (a system that is still to some
4910 degree customisable) there is still a lot of work to do here
4911 locally. Debian Edu / Skolelinux has been our choice as the starting
4914 <p>Second, a holistic conclusion: What schools need does not exist at
4915 all (or we missed it so far). There are several technical solutions
4916 for handling IT at schools that tend to make a good impression. What
4917 has been missing completely here in Germany, though, is the enrolment
4918 of people into using IT and teaching with IT. "IT-Zukunft Schule"
4919 tries to provide an approach for this.
</p>
4921 <p>Only some schools have some sort of a media concept which explains,
4922 defines and gives guidance on how to use IT in class. Most schools in
4923 Northern Germany do not have an IT service provider, the school's IT
4924 equipment is managed by one or (if the school is lucky) two (admin)
4925 teachers, most of the workload these admin teachers get done in there
4928 <p>We were surprised that only a very few admin teachers were
4929 networked with colleagues from other schools. Basically, every school
4930 here around has its individual approach of providing IT equipment to
4931 teachers and students and the exchange of ideas has been quasi
4932 non-existent until
2010/
2011.
</p>
4934 <p>Quite some (non-admin) teachers try to avoid using IT technology in
4935 class as a learning medium completely. Several reasons for this
4936 avoidance do exist.
</p>
4938 <p>We discovered that no-one has ever taken a closer look at this
4939 social part of IT management in schools, so far. On our quest journey
4940 for a technical IT solution for schools, we discussed this issue with
4941 several teachers, headmasters, politicians, other IT professionals and
4942 they all confirmed: a holistic approach of considering IT management
4943 at schools, an approach that includes the people in place, will be new
4944 and probably a gain for all.
</p>
4946 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
4949 <p>There is a list of advantages: international context, openness to
4950 any kind of contributions, do-ocracy policy, the closeness to Debian,
4951 the different installation scenarios possible (from stand-alone
4952 workstation to complex multi-server sites), the transparency within
4953 project communication, honest communication within the group of
4954 developers, etc.
</p>
4956 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
4959 <p>Every coin has two sides:
</p>
4961 <p>Technically:
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/311188">BTS issue
4962 #
311188</a>, tricky upgradability of a Debian Edu main server, network
4963 client installations on top of a plain vanilla Debian installation
4964 should become possible sometime in the near future, one could think
4965 about splitting the very complex package debian-edu-config into
4966 several portions (to make it easier for new developers to
4969 <p>Another issue I see is that we (as Debian Edu developers) should
4970 find out more about the network of people who do the marketing for
4971 Debian Edu / Skolelinux. There is a very active group in Germany
4972 promoting Skolelinux on the bigger Linux Days within Germany. Are
4973 there other groups like that in other countries? How can we bring
4974 these marketing people together (marketing group A with group B and
4975 all of them with the group of Debian Edu developers)? During the last
4976 meeting of the German Skolelinux group, I got the impression of people
4977 there being rather disconnected from the development department of
4978 Debian Edu / Skolelinux.
</p>
4980 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
4982 <p>For my daily business, I do not use commercial software at all.
</p>
4984 <p>For normal stuff I use Iceweasel/Firefox, Libreoffice.org. For
4985 serious text writing I prefer LaTeX. I use gimp, inkscape, scribus for
4986 more artistic tasks. I run virtual machines in KVM and Virtualbox.
</p>
4988 <p>I am one of the upstream developers of X2Go. In
2010 I started the
4989 development of a Python based X2Go Client, called PyHoca-GUI.
4990 PyHoca-GUI has brought forth a Python X2Go Client API that currently
4991 is being integrated in Ubuntu's software center.
</p>
4993 <p>For communications I have my own Kolab server running using Horde
4994 as web-based groupware client. For IRC I love to use irssi, for Jabber
4995 I have several clients that I use, mostly pidgin, though. I am also
4996 the Debian maintainer of Coccinella, a Jabber-based interactive
4999 <p>My favourite terminal emulator is KDE's Yakuake.
</p>
5001 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
5002 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
5004 <p>Communicate, communicate, communicate. Enrol people, enrol people,
5011 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
5016 <div class=
"padding"></div>
5020 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Ralf_Gesellensetter.html">Debian Edu interview: Ralf Gesellensetter
</a>
5026 <p>In
2003, a German teacher showed up on the
5027 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a>
5028 mailing list with interesting problems and reports proving he setting
5029 up Linux for a (for us at the time) lot of pupils. His name was Ralf
5030 Gesellensetter, and he has been an important tester and contributor
5031 since then, helping to make sure the
5032 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120311.html">Debian Edu
5033 Squeeze
</a> release became as good as it is..
</p>
5035 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
5037 <p>I am a teacher from Germany, and my subjects are Geography,
5038 Mathematics, and Computer Science ("Informatik"). During the past
12
5039 years (since
2000), I have been working for a comprehensive (and soon,
5040 also inclusive) school leading to all kind of general levels, such as
5041 O- or A-level ("Abitur"). For quite as long, I've been taking care of
5042 our computer network.
</p>
5044 <p>Now, in my early
40s, I enjoy the privilege of spending a lot of my
5045 spare time together with my wife, our son (
3 years) and our daughter
5048 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
5049 project?
</strong></p>
5051 <p>We had tried different Linux based school servers, when members of
5052 my local Linux User Group (LUG OWL) detected Skolelinux. I remember
5053 very well, being part of a party celebrating the Linux New Media Award
5054 ("Best Newcomer Distribution", also nominated: Ubuntu) that was given
5055 to Skolelinux at Linux World Exposition in Frankfurt,
2005 (IIRC). Few
5056 months later, I had the chance to join a developer meeting in Ulsrud
5057 (Oslo) and to hand out the award to Knut Yrvin and others. For more
5058 than
7 years, Skolelinux is part of our schools infrastructure, namely
5059 our main server (tjener), one LTSP (today without thin clients), and
5060 approximately
50 work stations. Most of these have the option to boot a
5061 locally installed Skolelinux image. As a consequence, I joined quite
5062 a few events dealing with free software or Linux, and met many Debian
5063 (Edu) developers. All of them seemed quite nice and competent to me,
5064 one more reason to stick to Skolelinux.
</p>
5066 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
5069 <p>Debian driven, you are given all the advantages of a community
5070 project including well maintained updates. Once, you are familiar with
5071 the network layout, you can easily roll out an entire educational
5072 computer infrastructure, from just one installation media. As only
5073 free software (FOSS) is used, that supports even elderly hardware,
5074 up-sizing your IT equipment is only limited by space (i.e. available
5075 labs). Especially if you run a LTSP thin client server, your
5076 administration costs tend towards zero.
</p>
5078 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
5081 <p>While Debian's stability has loads of advantages for servers, this
5082 might be different in some cases for clients: Schools with unlimited
5083 budget might buy new hardware with components that are not yet
5084 supported by Debian stable, or wish to use more recent versions of
5085 office packages or desktop environments. These schools have the
5086 option to run Debian testing or other distributions - if they have the
5087 capacity to do so. Another issue is that Debian release cycles
5088 include a wide range of changes; therefor a high percentage of human
5089 power seems to be absorbed by just keeping the features of Skolelinux
5090 within the new setting of the version to come. During this process,
5091 the cogs of Debian Edu are getting more and more professional,
5092 i.e. harder to understand for novices.
</p>
5094 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
5096 <p>LibreOffice, Wikipedia, Openstreetmap, Iceweasel (Mozilla Firefox),
5097 KMail, Gimp, Inkscape - and of course the Linux Kernel (not only on
5098 PC, Laptop, Mobile, but also our SAT receiver)
</p>
5100 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
5101 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
5105 <li>Support computer science as regular subject in schools to make
5106 people really "own" their hardware, to make them understand the
5107 difference between proprietary software products, and free software
5110 <li>Make budget baskets corresponding: In Germany's public schools
5111 there are more or less fixed budgets for IT equipment (including
5112 licenses), so schools won't benefit from any savings here. This
5113 privilege is left to private schools which have consequently a large
5114 share among German Skolelinux schools.
</li>
5116 <li>Get free software in the seminars where would-be teachers are
5117 trained. In many cases, teachers' software customs are respected by
5118 decision makers rather than the expertise of any IT experts.
</li>
5120 <li>Don't limit ourself to free software run natively. Everybody uses
5121 free software or free licenses (for instance Wikipedia), and this
5122 general concept should get expanded to free educational content to be
5123 shared world wide (school books e.g.).
</li>
5125 <li>Make clear where ever you can that the market share of free (libre)
5126 office suites is much above
20 p.c. today, and that you pupils don't
5127 need to know the "ribbon menu" in order to get employed.
</li>
5129 <li>Talk about the difference between freeware and free software.
</li>
5131 <li>Spread free software, or even collections of portable free apps
5132 for USB pen drives. Endorse students to get a legal copy of
5133 Libreoffice rather than accepting them to use illegal serials. And
5134 keep sending documents in ODF formats.
</li>
5142 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
5147 <div class=
"padding"></div>
5151 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Alf_Tonny_B_tz.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Alf Tonny Bätz
</a>
5157 <p><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux-prosjektets
</a>
5158 musiker og mannen bak
5159 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Manuals/Rosegarden/">opplæringsdokumentene
5161 (
<a href=
"http://maintainer.skolelinux.org/debian-edu-doc/nb/rosegarden-manual.html">norsk
5162 utgave
</a>) for musikklærere, Alf Tonny Bätz, er neste mann ut i min
5163 intervjurunde av folkene bak Skolelinux-løsningen. Jeg har kjent Alf
5164 Tonny siden vi møttes som barn på påskefjellet i Ofoten, og ble
5165 gledelig overrasket da han dukket opp i Skolelinux-prosjektet etter å
5166 ikke ha sett noe til ham på mange år.
</p>
5168 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
5170 <p>Jeg er utdannet kokk av yrke, og har utøvet yrket i
12 år. Men
5171 etter at ryggen sa takk før seg, studerte jeg nettverksadministrasjon
5172 ved Næringsakademiet i Bergen årene
2008-
2009 slik at jeg kunne
5173 forfølge en av mine største interesser - data. Til daglig jobber jeg
5174 ved
<a href=
"http://www.narvikskolen.no/parken/">Parken
5175 ungdomsskole
</a> med å drifte skolens PC-er. Har også litt
5176 musikkundervisning.
</p>
5178 <p>Mitt mål er å bevisstgjøre musikklærene mulighetene med de frie
5179 programmene som finnes i Skolelinux, blant annet Rosegarden.
</p>
5181 <p>Har i mange år drevet med musikk og en av grunnen til at Rosegarden
5182 falt i smak for min del, var fordi denne fungere og ligner mest på
5183 Windows-programmet (cubase) jeg jobbet mye med da jeg i mine yngre
5184 dager var «Windows fanatiker». Ble introdusert til Linux av en kompis
5185 av meg for omtrent
14 år siden, og har bare blitt mer og mer glad i
5186 dette operativsystemet.
</p>
5188 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
5190 <p>Da jeg ble sykemeldt fra min gamle jobb, og måtte omskoleres,
5191 havnet jeg i
2007 sammen med Viggo Fedreheim på IKT-avdelingen i
5192 Narvik kommune, der ble jeg for første gang introdusert til
5193 Skolelinuxprosjektet.
</p>
5195 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
5197 <p>Skolelinux er enkelt å holde i drift og masse flotte programmer som
5198 geogebra, ktouch og kgeografi følger med pakken. Man kan ta i bruk
5199 gamle PC-er igjen, slik at skoler med dårlig råd får opp en brukbar
5200 PC-park. PC-er som er ca
6-
9 år gamle fungere tilfredstillende, bare
5201 de har
512 MB RAM eller mer.
</p>
5203 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
5205 <p>Ulempene er at noen av de pedagogiske programmene som lærene ønsker
5206 å bruke fungere dårlig med Linux. Mye pga. av at disse programmene
5207 blir ikke laget til Linuxbaserte operativsystemer.
</p>
5209 <p>Video- og bilde-redigering har dessverre en del mangler, mange av
5210 programmene har en tendens til og krasje. Det gjelder blant annet
5211 <a href=
"http://www.kdenlive.org/">kdenlive
</a> og
5212 <a href=
"http://www.openshotvideo.com/">openshot
</a>, for å nevne
5213 noen. De er ikke stabile nok. Når elevene kommer med filmsnutter de
5214 ønsker og jobbe med, så godtar ikke programmene filene, og når elevene
5215 jobber med redigering bare krasjer programmene uten forvarsel. Det er
5216 for vanskelig å få noe som bare fungerer ut av boksen her. Når en elev
5217 plugger inn et videokamera eller fotoapparat så er det alltid noe som
5218 ikke vil fungere. Programmene godtar ikke format, godtar ikke
5219 kameraet, osv., osv. Det er dessverre med på og dra ned en positiv
5220 opplevelse av bruk av fri programvare.
</p>
5222 <p>Man må ofte bruke flere en et video redigerings program før og få
5223 fullført en ønsket oppgave.
</p>
5227 <p>Hvis det ene programmet ikke vil ta i mot videofilen klarer et
5228 annet det, men det programmet som klarer det kan ikke gjøre de samme
5229 oppgavene som det programmet som ikke ville ta i mot filen,
5230 Tilsvarende er det med foto, man må bruke flere programmer for å få
5231 et ferdig resultat. Til dags dato har jeg enda ikke funnet et video-
5232 og fotoprogram som kan tilfredstillende fullføre en oppgave.
</p>
5234 <p>Så man kan klare og fullføre en oppgave, men i verste fall må man
5235 innom
3-
4 programmer for å få det til. Så jeg har enda ikke til dags
5236 dato sett at et program fungere
100% til alt.
</p>
5238 <p>Det programmet jeg har best erfaring til er
5239 <a href=
"http://cinelerra.org/">cinelerra
</a>, men dessverre har det
5240 også tendenser og krasje av og til uten grunn.
</p>
5242 Lydsystemet kan også være et mareritt. Konkret snakker jeg om når du
5243 bruker for eksempel et smartboard, så følger det med USB-lydkort på
5244 disse. Problemet ligger her i at systemet ikke vil velge rett
5245 lydkort, så man må inn med padevchooser for å sette opp PulseAudio
5246 til og velge at USB-lydkortet skal brukes. Det blir for tungvindt for
5247 lærene, de ønsker at ting skal fungere med en gang. (min løsning på
5248 det problemet ble at jeg måtte deaktivere lydkortet som fantes på
5249 maskinen) men da må man bestandig slå på smartboard-tavla.
5251 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
5253 Programmene jeg bruker mest av er: Rosegarden, jack, qsynth, audacity,
5254 k3b, openttd og libreoffice.
5256 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
5257 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
5259 Jeg tror det må bevisstgjøring av Skolene til, dvs. reklamere høylytt
5260 og fortelle og vise de andre skolene at frie programvarer faktisk
5261 fungere. Jeg trur faktisk mange ikke vet at det finnes frie
5268 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
5273 <div class=
"padding"></div>
5277 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__J_rgen_Leibner.html">Debian Edu interview: Jürgen Leibner
</a>
5283 <p>It has been a few busy weeks for me, but I am finally back to
5284 publish another interview with the people behind
5285 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a>.
5286 This time it is one of our German developers, who have helped out over the
5287 years to make sure both a lot of major but also a lot of the minor
5288 details get right before release.
5290 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
5292 <p>My name is Jürgen Leibner, I'm
49 years old and living in
5293 Bielefeld, a town in northern Germany. I worked nearly
20 years as
5294 certified engineer in the department for plant design and layout of an
5295 international company for machinery and equipment. Since
2011 I'm a
5296 certified technical writer (tekom e.V.) and doing technical
5297 documentations for a steam turbine manufacturer. From April this year
5298 I will manage the department of technical documentation at a
5299 manufacturer of automation and assembly line engineering.
</p>
5301 <p>My first contact with linux was around
1993. Since that time I used
5302 it at work and at home repeatedly but not exclusively as I do now at
5303 home since
2006.
</p>
5305 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
5306 project?
</strong></p>
5308 <p>Once a day in the early year of
2001 when I wanted to fetch my
5309 daughter from primary school, there was a teacher sitting in the
5310 middle of
20 old computers trying to boot them and he failed. I helped
5311 him to get them booting. That was seen by the school director and she
5312 asked me if I would like to manage that the school gets all that old
5313 computers in use. I answered: "Yes".
</p>
5315 <p>Some weeks later every of the
10 classrooms had one computer
5316 running Windows98. I began to collect old computers and equipment as
5317 gifts and installed the first computer room with a peer-to-peer
5318 network. I did my work at school without being payed in my spare time
5319 and with a lot of fun. About one year later the school was connected
5320 to Internet and a local area network was installed in the school
5321 building. That was the time to have a server and I knew it must be a
5322 Linux server to be able to fulfil all the wishes of the teachers and
5323 being able to do this in a transparent and economic way, without extra
5324 costs for things like licence and software. So I searched for a
5325 school server system running under Linux and I found a couple of
5326 people nearby who founded 'skolelinux.de'. It was the Skolelinux
5327 prerelease
32 I first tried out for being used at the school. I
5328 managed the IT of that school until the municipal authority took over
5329 the IT management and centralised the services for all schools in
5330 Bielefeld in December of
2006.
</p>
5332 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
5335 <p>When I'm looking back to the beginning, there were other advantages
5336 for me as today.
</p>
5338 <p>In the past there were advantages like:
</p>
5342 <li>I don't need to buy it so it generates no costs to the school as
5343 they had little money to spent for computers and software.
</li>
5345 <li>It has a licence which grands all rights to use it without
5348 <li>It was more able to fit all requirements of a server system for
5349 schools than a Microsoft server system, even if there are only Windows
5350 clients because of it's preconfigured overall concept of being a
5351 infrastructure solution and community for schools, not only a
5354 <li>I was able to configure the server to the needs of the
5359 <p>Today some of the advantages has been lost, changed or new ones
5360 came up in this way:
</p>
5364 <li>Most schools here do have money to buy hardware and software
5367 <li>They are today mostly managed from central IT departments which
5368 have own concepts which often do not fit to Debian Edu concepts
5369 because they are to close to Microsoft ideology.
</li>
5371 <li>With the Squeeze version of Debian Edu which now uses GOsa² for
5372 management I feel more able to manage the daily tasks than with the
5373 interfaces used in the past.
</li>
5375 <li>It is more modular than in the past and fits even better to the
5376 different needs.
</li>
5378 <li>The documentation is usable and gets better every day.
</li>
5380 <li>More people than ever before are using Debian Edu all over the
5381 world and so the community, which is an very important part I think,
5382 is sharing knowledge and minds.
</li>
5384 <li>Most, maybe all, of the technical requirements for schools are
5385 solved today by Debian Edu.
</li>
5389 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
5394 <li>There are too few IT companies able to integrate Debian Edu into
5395 their product portfolio for serving schools with concepts or even
5396 whole municipality areas.
</li>
5398 <li>Debian Edu has beside other free and open software projects not
5399 enough lobbyists which promote free and open software to
5402 <li>Technically there are no disadvantages I'm aware of.
</li>
5406 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
5408 <p>I use Debian stable on my home server and on my little desktop
5409 computer. On my laptop I use Debian testing/sid. The applications I
5410 use on my laptop and my desktop are Open/Libre-office, Iceweasel,
5411 KMail, DigiKam, Amarok, Dolphin, okular and all the other programs I
5412 need from the KDE environment. On console I use newsbeuter, mutt,
5413 screen, irssi and all the other famous and useful tools.
</p>
5415 <p>My home server provides mail services with exim, dovecot, roundcube
5416 and mutt over ssh on the console, file services with samba, NFS,
5417 rsync, web services with apache, moinmoin-wiki, multimedia services
5418 with gallery2 and mediatomb and database services with MySQL for me
5419 and the whole family. I probably forgot something.
</p>
5421 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
5422 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
5424 <p>I believe, we should provide concepts for IT companies to integrate
5425 Debian Edu into their product portfolio with use cases for different
5426 countries and areas all over the world.
</p>
5432 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
5437 <div class=
"padding"></div>
5441 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Forskning___GPL_gir_lokal_frihet_og_kontroll_gjennom_omfordeling_av_makt_fra_produsent_til_bruker_.html">Forskning: "GPL gir lokal frihet og kontroll gjennom omfordeling av makt fra produsent til bruker"
</a>
5447 <p>Da jeg googlet etter noe annet kom jeg tilfeldigvis over
5448 <a href=
"http://www.duo.uio.no/sok/work.html?WORKID=58309">en
5449 hovedfagsoppgave
</a> ved Universitetet i Oslo som diskuterer verdien
5450 av GPLs fire friheter for brukerne av IT-systemer. Jeg ble fascinert
5451 over det som presenteres der. Her er sammendraget:
</p>
5455 <p>Motivasjonen til å skrive denne oppgaven er en personlig undring
5456 over hvorfor det primært, og ofte eksklusivt, fokuseres på det
5457 økonomiske aspektet ved utredninger om fri programvare er et godt valg
5458 for det offentlige. Fri og produsenteid programvare bygger på
5459 fundamentalt forskjellige ideologier som kan ha implikasjoner utover
5460 økonomiske kostnader. Kunnskapskulturen som er med på å definere fri
5461 programvare er basert på åpenhet, og er en verdi i seg selv.
</p>
5463 <p>Oppgavens tema er programvarelisensen GPL og frihet. GPL-lisensiert
5464 programvare gir visse friheter i forhold til produsenteid
5465 programvare. Mitt spørsmål er om, og eventuelt i hvilken utstrekning,
5466 disse frihetene blir benyttet av ulike brukere og hvordan de
5467 manifesterer seg for disse brukerne. Sentrale spørsmål i oppgaven
5471 <li>Hvordan fordeles handlekraft gjennom lisensieringen av programvaren?
</li>
5472 <li>Hvilke konsekvenser har programvarelisensen for de ulike brukere?
</li>
5475 <p>Fri programvare gir blant annet brukeren mulighet til å studere og
5476 modifisere kildekoden. Denne formen for frihet erverves gjennom
5477 kunnskap og krever at brukeren også er en ekspert. Hva skjer med
5478 frihetene til GPL når sluttbrukeren er en annen? Dette diskuteres i
5479 dialog med informantene.
</p>
5481 <p>Jeg har i denne oppgaven samlet inn intervjudata fra IKT-ansvarlige
5482 ved grunnskolene i Nittedal kommune, driftsansvarlig og IKT-veilederen
5483 for skolene i kommunen, samt IKT-koordinator for utdanning i Akershus
5484 fylkeskommune og bokmåloversettere av OpenOffice.org. Den empiriske
5485 delen av oppgaven er delt inn i to seksjoner; den første omhandler
5486 operativsystemet Skolelinux, den andre kontorprogrampakken
5489 <p>Som vi vil se gir GPL lokal frihet og kontroll gjennom omfordeling
5490 av makt fra produsent til bruker. Brukerens makt analyseres gjennom
5491 begrepene brukermedvirkning og handlingsfrihet. Det blir også lagt
5492 vekt på strukturelle forhold rundt bruken av teknologi, og spesielt de
5493 økonomiske begrepene nettverkseksternaliteter, innlåsing og
5494 stiavhengighet. Dette er begreper av spesiell nytte når objektet som
5495 omsettes eller distribueres er et kommunikasjonsprodukt, fordi verdien
5496 til et slikt gode for en potensiell bruker avhenger av antall
5497 eksisterende brukere av godet. I tilknytning til denne problematikken
5498 inneholder oppgaven også en diskusjon rundt åpne standarder og
5501 <p>Oppgaven konkluderer med at de «fire frihetene» som GPL-lisensen er
5502 laget for å beskytte er av avgjørende betydning for bruken av
5503 OpenOffice.org og Skolelinux, i Akershus fylkeskommune såvel som i
5504 skolene i Nittedal. Distribusjonen av handlekraft er ikke helt
5505 symmetrisk. Det er først og fremst de profesjonelle utviklerne i
5506 Skolelinux som direkte kan nyttiggjøre seg friheten til å endre kode,
5507 mens en sluttbruker som Nittedal kommune nyttiggjør seg den økonomiske
5508 friheten til å kunne distribuere programmene. Det er imidlertid også
5509 slik at ingen aktør klarer seg uten alle disse «frihetene».
</p>
5512 <p>Jeg fant også en masteroppgave fra
2006, men der ligger ikke
5513 komplett oppgave tilgjengelig. På tide å holde et øye med
5514 <a href=
"http://www.duo.uio.no/sok/search.html?q=skolelinux">Skolelinux-søket
</a>
5522 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
5527 <div class=
"padding"></div>
5531 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Andreas_Mundt.html">Debian Edu interview: Andreas Mundt
</a>
5537 <p>Behind
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu and
5538 Skolelinux
</a> there are a lot of people doing the hard work of
5539 setting together all the pieces. This time I present to you Andreas
5540 Mundt, who have been part of the technical development team several
5541 years. He was also a key contributor in getting GOsa and Kerberos set
5542 up in the recently released
5543 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze">Debian
5544 Edu Squeeze
</a> version.
</p>
5546 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
5548 <p>My name is Andreas Mundt, I grew up in south Germany. After
5549 studying Physics I spent several years at university doing research in
5550 Quantum Optics. After that I worked some years in an optics company.
5551 Finally I decided to turn over a new leaf in my life and started
5552 teaching
10 to
19 years old kids at school. I teach math, physics,
5553 information technology and science/technology.
</p>
5555 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
5556 project?
</strong></p>
5558 <p>Already before I switched to teaching, I followed the Debian Edu
5559 project because of my interest in education and Debian. Within the
5560 qualification/training period for the teaching, I started
5563 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
5566 <p>The advantages of Debian Edu are the well known name, the
5567 out-of-the-box philosophy and of course the great free software of the
5570 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
5573 <p>As every coin has two sides, the out-of-the-box philosophy has its
5574 downside, too. In my opinion, it is hard to modify and tweak the
5575 setup, if you need or want that. Further more, it is not easily
5576 possible to upgrade the system to a new release. It takes much too
5577 long after a Debian release to prepare the -Edu release, perhaps
5578 because the number of developers working on the core of the code is
5579 rather small and often busy elsewhere.
</p>
5581 <p>The
<a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLAN">Debian LAN
</a>
5582 project might fill the use case of a more flexible system.
</p>
5584 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
5586 <p>I am only using non-free software if I am forced to and run Debian
5587 on all my machines. For documents I prefer LaTeX and PGF/TikZ, then
5588 mutt and iceweasel for email respectively web browsing. At school I
5589 have Arduino and Fritzing in use for a micro controller project.
</p>
5591 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
5592 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
5594 <p>One of the major problems is the vendor lock-in from top to bottom:
5595 Especially in combination with ignorant government employees and
5596 politicians, this works out great for the "market-leader". The school
5597 administration here in Baden-Wuerttemberg is occupied by that vendor.
5598 Documents have to be prepared in non-free, proprietary formats. Even
5599 free browsers do not work for the school administration. Publishers
5600 of school books provide software only for proprietary platforms.
</p>
5602 <p>To change this, political work is very important. Parts of the
5603 political spectrum have become aware of the problem in the last years.
5604 However it takes quite some time and courageous politicians to 'free'
5605 the system. There is currently some discussion about "Open Data" and
5606 "Free/Open Standards". I am not sure if all the involved parties have
5607 a clue about the potential of these ideas, and probably only a
5608 fraction takes them seriously. However it might slowly make free
5609 software and the philosophy behind it more known and popular.
</p>
5615 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
5620 <div class=
"padding"></div>
5624 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Justin_B__Rye.html">Debian Edu interview: Justin B. Rye
</a>
5630 <p>It take all kind of contributions to create a Linux distribution
5631 like
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a>,
5632 and this time I lend the ear to Justin B. Rye, who is listed as a big
5634 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze">Debian
5635 Edu Squeeze release manual
</a>.
5637 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
5639 <p>I'm a
44-year-old linguistics graduate living in Edinburgh who has
5640 occasionally been employed as a sysadmin.
</p>
5642 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
5643 project?
</strong></p>
5645 <p>I'm neither a developer nor a Skolelinux/Debian Edu user! The only
5646 reason my name's in the credits for the documentation is that I hang
5647 around on debian-l10n-english waiting for people to mention things
5648 they'd like a native English speaker to proofread... So I did a sweep
5649 through the wiki for typos and Norglish and inconsistent spellings of
5652 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
5655 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
5658 <p>These questions are too hard for me - I don't use it! In fact I
5659 had hardly any contact with I.T. until long after I'd got out of the
5660 education system.
</p>
5662 <p>I can tell you the advantages of Debian for me though: it soaks up
5663 as much of my free time as I want and no more, and lets me do
5664 everything I want a computer for without ever forcing me to spend
5665 money on the latest hardware.
</p>
5667 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
5669 <p>I've been using Debian since Rex; popularity-contest says the
5670 software that I use most is xinit, xterm, and xulrunner (in other
5671 words, I use a distinctly retro sort of desktop).
</p>
5673 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
5674 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
5676 <p>Well, I don't know. I suppose I'd be inclined to try reasoning
5677 with the people who make the decisions, but obviously if that worked
5678 you would hardly need a strategy.
</p>
5684 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
5689 <div class=
"padding"></div>
5693 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Why_the_KDE_menu_is_slow_when__usr__is_NFS_mounted___and_a_workaround.html">Why the KDE menu is slow when /usr/ is NFS mounted - and a workaround
</a>
5699 <p>Recently I have spent time with
5700 <a href=
"http://www.slxdrift.no/">Skolelinux Drift AS
</a> on speeding
5701 up a
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a>
5702 Lenny installation using LTSP diskless workstations, and in the
5703 process I discovered something very surprising. The reason the KDE
5704 menu was responding slow when using it for the first time, was mostly
5705 due to the way KDE find application icons. I discovered that showing
5706 the Multimedia menu would cause more than
20 000 IP packages to be
5707 passed between the LTSP client and the NFS server. Most of these were
5709 NFS LOOKUP calls, resulting in a NFS3ERR_NOENT response. Because the
5710 ping times between the client and the server were in the range
2-
20
5711 ms, the menus would be very slow. Looking at the strace of kicker in
5712 Lenny (or plasma-desktop i Squeeze - same problem there), I see that
5713 the source of these NFS calls are access(
2) system calls for
5714 non-existing files. KDE can do hundreds of access(
2) calls to find
5715 one icon file. In my example, just finding the mplayer icon required
5716 around
230 access(
2) calls.
</p>
5718 <p>The KDE code seem to search for icons using a list of icon
5719 directories, and the list of possible directories is large. In
5720 (almost) each directory, it look for files ending in .png, .svgz, .svg
5721 and .xpm. The result is a very slow KDE menu when /usr/ is NFS
5722 mounted. Showing a single sub menu may result in thousands of NFS
5723 requests. I am not the first one to discover this. I found a
5724 <a href=
"https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211416">KDE bug report
5725 from
2009</a> about this problem, and it is still unsolved.
</p>
5727 <p>My solution to speed up the KDE menu was to create a package
5728 kde-icon-cache that upon installation will look at all .desktop files
5729 used to generate the KDE menu, find their icons, search the icon paths
5730 for the file that KDE will end up finding at run time, and copying the
5731 icon file to /var/lib/kde-icon-cache/. Finally, I add symlinks to
5732 these icon files in one of the first directories where KDE will look
5733 for them. This cut down the number of file accesses required to find
5734 one icon from several hundred to less than
5, and make the KDE menu
5735 almost instantaneous. I'm not quite sure where to make the package
5736 publicly available, so for now it is only available on request.
</p>
5738 <p>The bug report mention that this do not only affect the KDE menu
5739 and icon handling, but also the login process. Not quite sure how to
5740 speed up that part without replacing NFS with for example NBD, and
5741 that is not really an option at the moment.
</p>
5743 <p>If you got feedback on this issue, please let us know on debian-edu
5744 (at) lists.debian.org.
</p>
5750 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
5755 <div class=
"padding"></div>
5759 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_in_the_Linux_Weekly_News.html">Debian Edu in the Linux Weekly News
</a>
5765 <p>About two weeks ago, I was interviewed via email about
5766 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a> by
5767 Bruce Byfield in Linux Weekly News. The result was made public for
5768 non-subscribers today. I am pleased to see liked our Linux solution
5769 for schools. Check out his article
5770 <a href=
"https://lwn.net/Articles/488805/">Debian Edu/Skolelinux: A
5771 distribution for education
</a> if you want to learn more.
</p>
5777 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
5782 <div class=
"padding"></div>
5786 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Wolfgang_Schweer.html">Debian Edu interview: Wolfgang Schweer
</a>
5792 <p>Germany is a core area for the
5793 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu and Skolelinux
</a>
5794 user community, and this time I managed to get hold of Wolfgang
5795 Schweer, a valuable contributor to the project from Germany.
5797 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
5799 <p>I've studied Mathematics at the university 'Ruhr-Universität' in
5800 Bochum, Germany. Since
1981 I'm working as a teacher at the school
5801 "
<a href=
"http://www.westfalenkolleg-dortmund.de/">Westfalen-Kolleg
5802 Dortmund
</a>", a second chance school. Here, young adults is given
5803 the opportunity to get further education in order to do the school
5804 examination 'Abitur', which will allow to study at a university. This
5805 second chance is of value for those who want a better job perspective
5806 or failed to get a higher school examination being teens.</p>
5808 <p>Besides teaching I was involved in developing online courses for a
5809 blended learning project called 'abitur-online.nrw' and in some other
5810 information technology related projects. For about ten years I've been
5811 teacher and coordinator for the 'abitur-online' project at my
5812 school. Being now in my early sixties, I've decided to leave school at
5813 the end of April this year.</p>
5815 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
5816 project?</strong></p>
5818 <p>The first information about Skolelinux must have come to my
5819 attention years ago and somehow related to LTSP (Linux Terminal Server
5820 Project). At school, we had set up a network at the beginning of 1997
5821 using Suse Linux on the desktop, replacing a Novell network. Since
5822 2002, we used old machines from the city council of Dortmund as thin
5823 clients (LTSP, later Ubuntu/Lessdisks) cause new hardware was out of
5824 reach. At home I'm using Debian since years and - subscribed to the
5825 Debian news letter - heard from time to time about Skolelinux. About
5826 two years ago I proposed to replace the (somehow undocumented and only
5827 known to me) system at school by a well known Debian based system:
5830 <p>Students and teachers appreciated the new system because of a
5831 better look and feel and an enhanced access to local media on thin
5832 clients. The possibility to alter and/or reset passwords using a GUI
5833 was welcomed, too. Being able to do administrative tasks using a GUI
5834 and to easily set up workstations using PXE was of very high value for
5835 the admin teachers.</p>
5837 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
5840 <p>It's open source, easy to set up, stable and flexible due to it's
5841 Debian base. It integrates LTSP out-of-the-box. And it is documented!
5842 So it was a perfect choice.</p>
5844 <p>Being open source, there are no license problems and so it's
5845 possible to point teachers and students to programs like
5846 OpenOffice.org, ViewYourMind (mind mapping) and The Gimp. It's of
5847 high value to be able to adapt parts of the system to special needs of
5848 a school and to choose where to get support for this.</p>
5850 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
5855 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?</strong></p>
5857 <p>At home (Debian Sid with Gnome Desktop): Iceweasel, LibreOffice,
5858 Mutt, Gedit, Document Viewer, Midnight Commander, flpsed (PDF
5859 Annotator). At school (Skolelinux Lenny): Iceweasel, Gedit,
5862 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
5863 get schools to use free software?</strong></p>
5865 <p>Some time ago I thought it was enough to tell people about it. But
5866 that doesn't seem to work quite well. Now I concentrate on those more
5867 interested and hope to get multiplicators that way.</p>
5873 Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu
">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english
">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju
">intervju</a>.
5878 <div class="padding
"></div>
5882 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Linux_skoler_har_h_yere_PC_tetthet_enn_landsgjennomsnittet___pressemelding_fra_FRiSK.html
">Linux-skoler har høyere PC-tetthet enn landsgjennomsnittet - pressemelding fra FRiSK</a>
5888 <p>I dag har <a href="http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no
">FRiSK</a>
5889 sendt ut følgende pressemelding basert på mine beregninger av
5890 PC-tetthet på Linux-skoler:</p>
5892 <p><strong>Linux-skoler har høyere PC-tetthet enn
5893 landsgjennomsnittet</strong></p>
5895 <p>Oslo, 30 Mars 2012</p>
5897 <p>Det er store forskjeller på skolenes digitale tilstand, viser
5898 undersøkelsen Monitor 2011 som er laget på oppdrag fra
5899 Kunnskapsdepartementet. Dette har ført til debatt om PC-tilgangen i
5900 skolen, og om de med Linux i skolen gjør det bedre bedre eller
5901 dårligere enn snittet i landet.</p>
5903 <p>Nå har vi tallene. Skoler med Linux har 36% større PC-tetthet en
5904 landsgjennomsnittet. På spørsmål hvorfor skoler med Linux har større
5905 PC-tetthet, observerer Paul Reidar Løsnesløkken som er IKT-konsulent i
5908 <p><blockquote>"Vi erfarer at klienter med Skolelinux har god funksjon
5909 til de er
8 til
10 år gamle. Dette er omtrent dobbelt så lenge som
5910 andre løsninger, og skolene får mer datautstyr for
5911 pengene.
"</blockquote></p>
5913 <p>Undersøkelsen baserer seg på 56 skoler som har gjort det offentlig
5914 at de kjører Skolelinux eller annen Linux-utgave. De kan også ha PC-er
5915 med Windows i skolenettet. Når en sammenligner PC-tetthetene på
5916 skolene i kommunene Flora, Harstad, Kongsvinger, Narvik, Nittedal,
5917 Nord-Odal og Randaberg, er det i snitt 2,28 elev pr. PC på skolene med
5918 Linux. På landsbasis er det 3.11 elev per PC i grunnskolen, i følge
5919 side 95 i Monitor-rapporten for 2011. Målingen viser dermed 36% større
5920 PC-tetthet i skoler med Linux.</p>
5922 <p><strong>Om Skolelinux/Debian Edu</strong></p>
5924 <p>Skolelinux har til hensikt å gi alle barn full tilgang til
5925 skoleaktuelle dataprogram på sitt eget morsmål. Derfor følger det med
5926 godt over 100 skoleaktuelle programmene laget for læring. De fleste
5927 programmene er oversatt til over 50 språk. Elevene skal også kunne
5928 studere alle sider av dataprogrammene. Derfor følger også kildekode
5929 med. Elever med interesse kan lære av eksperter som har laget
5930 systemet. Dette med enkelt programmering i læreprogram som KTurtle,
5931 til profesjonelle verktøy som Qt Creator eller Java.</p>
5933 <p>Skolelinux er laget for sentralisert drift, der alt teknisk
5934 administrasjon av alle skolene kan gjøres sentralt fra kommunehuset
5935 eller sentralt i en region. F.eks. drifter to-tre personer 70.000
5936 skoledatamaskiner på 200 skoler i delstaten Extremadura i
5937 Spania. Etter velykket bruk av Debian Edu i skolen, legger delstaten
5938 over til Debian på 40.000 datamaskiner i administrasjonen. Det er idag
5939 mange selskap som tilbyr profesjonell støtte til innføring og drift i
5940 Norge og verden.</p>
5942 <p><strong>Om FRiSK</strong></p>
5944 <p>Medlemsforeningen Fri Programvare i Skolen organiserer
5945 dugnadsprosjektet som står bak Skolelinux.</p>
5947 <p><strong>Kontaktperson</strong></p>
5951 <p>Leder av Fri Programvare i Skolen (FRISK)</p>
5953 <p>Epost: knuty at skolelinux.no
5954 <br>Mobil: +47 93 479 561</p>
5956 <p><strong>Referanser</strong></p>
5960 <li><a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/
">http://www.skolelinux.org/</a></li>
5961 <li><a href="http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/
">http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/</a></li>
5962 <li><a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Download
">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Download</a></li>
5963 <li><a href="https://www.wis.no/gsi
">https://www.wis.no/gsi</a></li>
5964 <li><a href="http://iktsenteret.no/sites/iktsenteret.no/files/attachments/monitor2011.pdf
">http://iktsenteret.no/sites/iktsenteret.no/files/attachments/monitor2011.pdf</a></li>
5965 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/St_rre_PC_tetthet_i_skolen_med_Skolelinux_.html
">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/St_rre_PC_tetthet_i_skolen_med_Skolelinux_.html</a></li>
5966 <li><a href="https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/linuxiskolen/
2012-March/
018500.html
">https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/linuxiskolen/2012-March/018500.html</a></li>
5974 Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu
">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk
">norsk</a>.
5979 <div class="padding
"></div>
5983 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Roy_Arne_Myhre.html
">Skolelinux-intervju: Roy-Arne Myhre</a>
5989 <p>I serien med intervjuer av folk i
5990 <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/
">Skolelinux</a>-miljøet, får vi
5991 denne gangen høre fra en IKT-ansvarlig som har brukt Skolelinux i
5992 mange år, og vært storfornøyd med erfaringene så langt.</p>
5994 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?</strong></p>
5996 <p>Mitt navn er Roy-Arne Myhre og jeg er 42 år. Jeg er ansatt hos
5997 <a href="http://www.sandskole.no/
">Sand skole</a> (Balsfjord kommune)
5998 og har stort sett vært det siden 1990. Jeg er IKT ansvarlig ved
5999 skolen i 40% stilling – 10% undervisning – musikk.</p>
6001 <p>Ved skolen er det ca 100 elever og ca 18 lærere + 4 assistenter i
6002 hele og delte stillinger. Alle lærerne har bærbar PC (dessverre med
6003 Win Vista) – assistenter har tilgang til egne. Vi benytter Fronter i
6004 det daglige arbeidet. Vi har ca 90 elevmaskiner som fungerer til
6005 daglig opp mot Linux server (XFCE) som driftes av
6006 <a href="http://www.bzz.no/
">BzzWare AS</a> via nett. Maskinparken
6007 består kun av brukt utstyr for elevene – og noe av dette begynner å
6008 bli vel gammelt selv som halvtykke klienter.</p>
6010 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med
6011 Skolelinux-prosjektet?</strong></p>
6013 <p>Vi kom første gang i kontakt med Skolelinux rundt 1997. Den gang
6014 var det oppstart-disketter i hver maskin, ikke mulighet for lyd og
6015 video, gamle nettverkskort og mye plundring. Vi hadde en ihuga
6016 forelder med som pådriver, forsker og inspirator for hele opplegget.
6017 Selv ante jeg knapt at Skolelinux fantes, men han var av den
6018 utforskende typen, og fikk både meg og skolelederen i trua på at dette
6019 var ting som kunne fungere. Etter dette har det gått gradvis
6020 framover; flere maskiner er hentet inn gjennom bl.a
6021 <a href="http://www.greentech.no/
">Greentech</a> og utrangert utstyr
6022 fra høgskole / Avinor og private givere. Når maskinene ble for trege
6023 for nye Windows-versjoner, sto vi klare til å putte dem i nettverket
6024 vårt. Dette betyr at vi i dag har 1:1 dekning av maskiner på
6025 ungdomstrinnet og bedre enn 1:2 på barnetrinnet. Dette er vi veldig
6026 fornøyd med, og vi kan ikke se for oss hverdagen som ville vært
6027 alternativet ved bruk av Windows med sine lisenser pr. Bruker/maskin.
6028 Da ville vi nok vært tilbake til 1-2 maskiner pr klasserom med de
6029 negative konsekvenser det ville hatt for undervisningsformene våre. Vi
6030 kan ha en hel klasse i prosjektjobbing eller individuell jobbing
6031 samtidig – vi kan avholde tentamen og eksamen uten
6032 logistikkproblemer.</p>
6034 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?</strong></p>
6036 Hvor skal jeg begynne... Stabiliteten er et nøkkelord - det bare
6037 virker. Har du først fått en server med Skolelinux opp og gå, så må
6038 det en maskinarefeil eller sabotasje til for å stoppe den. Det at man
6039 kan bruke eldre maskiner som normalt sett ville gått på dynga, er også
6040 glimrende - billig for skoler med dårlig økonomi og bra for miljøet
6041 siden vi gjenbruker utstyr i stedet for å skaffe nytt. Vi ville aldri
6042 hatt mulighet til å operere med det maskinantallet vi har pr i dag
6043 hvis det ikke var for Skolelinux - så tilgjengelighet er et annet
6044 nøkkelord. Et tredje moment er sikkerhet og brukertilgang. Alle
6045 brukerer opererer med egne brukernavn og passord, samt egne
6046 brukerområder som kan tilpasses for både enbrukertilgang og for
6047 samarbeid med andre.
6049 Elever har godt av å se at det finnes andre alternativer enn de som
6050 storindustrien selger på lisensbasis - på den måten trenes de opp til
6051 å se flere muligheter og å foreta valg ut fra flere opsjoner.
6053 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?</strong></p>
6055 <p>Ulempene med Skolelinux er nok utbredelsen og mangelen på kjennskap
6056 til dette i skolenorge. De som skal ta økonomiske avgjørelser rynker
6057 på nesen og vil gå for det kjente og «sikre» selv om det koster mye
6058 mer. Man får rett og slett litt hetta av å ikke kunne noe – og unngår
6059 dette for enhver pris.</p>
6061 <p>I tillegg er mye av linux-systemet administrert av tekstkommandoer
6062 og er lite intuitiv/visuell for oss som ikke er «inne i»
6063 kildekodene». Så problemet er nok mye godt at de som
6064 utarbeider/drifter Skolelinux ikke helt klarer å sette seg ned på
6065 skoleadministratorens nivå når det gjelder problemer og
6066 utfordringer. Men dette er nok en utfordring alle administratorer
6067 sliter med uansett OS.</p>
6069 <p>Derfor har vi valgt å støtte oss til BzzWare AS for assistanse i
6070 drifta slik at jeg har kunnet konsentrere meg mer om kabling, skifting
6071 av komponenter, veiledning av lærere og elever, vedlikehold av
6072 skrivere og annen daglig drift.</p>
6074 <p>Elevene mestrer Skolelinux helt fint. Så lenge Internett
6075 (Iceweasel) og Libreoffice (Openoffice) fungerer er 90% av
6076 skolehverdagen velfungerende. I tillegg brukes jo en del av den
6077 pedagogiske programpakken bla. i forhold til matematikk og geografi,
6078 men det er såpass mye bra på nett om dagen, så disse programmene er
6079 mer som krydder å regne.</p>
6081 <p>Jeg skulle ønske neste versjon av Skolelinux kunne komme litt
6082 mindre stappet med programmer, for halvparten blir aldri brukt, eller
6083 fungerer ikke uansett. Hva med et pedagogisk panel av lærere/IKT
6084 ansvarlige som kunne sagt: disse programmene skal være standard, så
6085 får resten være slike man kan legge til ved behov – det kan lett bli
6086 en jungel å bevege seg i.</p>
6088 <p>Jeg ønsker meg også en mer grafisk versjon av
6089 <a href="http://bzz.no/lwat/trac/trac.cgi
">Lwat</a> hvor man kan krysse
6090 ut de som f.eks ikke skal ha internett-tilgang en dag pga
6091 eksamen/tentamen, samt en noe enklere brannmurløsning hvor man kan
6092 stenge for en del (få) sider på en enkel måte. Jeg liker godt
6093 Skolelinux sin ideologi om at filteret skal trenes i hodet på eleven –
6094 men av og til skulle jeg ønske at f.eks Facebook og Youtube kunne vært
6095 koblet vekk en periode for å få bedre utnyttelse av tid og
6096 ressurser. Disse to nettstedene er nok mye av årsaken til at mange
6097 lærere holder igjen databruken noe mer enn man kunne ønske.</p>
6099 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?</strong></p>
6101 Jeg benytter nesten bare fri programvare til daglig. LibreOffice,
6102 Iceweasel (Firefox), Thunderbird til e-post og Gimp til
6103 bildebehandling. Vi har PHP-Nuke-oppsatt hjemmeside. Det eneste som
6104 jeg ikke har fått helt til enda er videoredigering - her må man vel
6105 innrømme at Mac er hakket over, men da er vi igjen over på å se hva
6106 som egner seg best, og ta valg ut fra det. Folk flest lever i
6107 villfarelsen om at regneark HETER Excel og tekstbehandling HETER
6108 Word. Dette er en misforståelse som jeg bruker mye energi på å
6109 diskutere og "åpne sinn" på Microsoft-slaver. Dessverre er det mange
6110 IKT-ansvarlige som også har låst seg på at det eneste saliggjørende er
6111 Bill G sine produkter.
6113 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
6114 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
6116 <p>For å komme lenger i utbredelsen av Skolelinux tror jeg det må mer
6117 fram i nasjonale medier, samt komme bedre fram hva økonomien i dette
6118 valget vil være – samt mulighetene. Fri programvare er en berikelse og
6119 gjør oss i stand til å utføre arbeidet i skolen uten å måtte legge
6120 igjen tusener på tusener i Bill Gates lomme.. Få ETT nettsted med
6121 forståelig veiledning av installasjon/oppgradering og ETT forum med
6122 konkrete feilrettinger og problemer, så tror jeg vi kunne kommet et
6123 par skritt framover. Ellers tror jeg bare at ildsjelene må fortsette å
6124 skinne – kanskje flere enn oss følger etter på veien.
</p>
6130 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
6135 <div class=
"padding"></div>
6139 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_screencast__Checking_email_with_kmail_using_Kerberos_authentication.html">Debian Edu screencast: Checking email with kmail using Kerberos authentication
</a>
6145 <!-- Video HTML based on http://www.diveintohtml5.net/video.html -->
6147 <p>The same Debian Edu developer that did the last screen cast I
6148 published, Wolfgang Schweer, has created a new screen cast showing how
6149 to set up Kmail in Debian Edu Squeze to authenticate using Kerberos,
6150 allowing users to check their local email account without providing
6151 any password. The video is embedded here in quarter size,
6152 and also available from
<a href=
"https://vimeo.com/38601767">vimeo
</a>
6154 <a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/press/screencasts/2012-03-14-Debian-Edu_Configure_Kmail_for_internal_usage.ogv">Ogg
6155 Theora
</a> file. Check it out below.
</p>
6157 <p><video id=
"kmail-kerberos-movie" width=
"256" height=
"184" preload controls
>
6158 <source src=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/press/screencasts/2012-03-14-Debian-Edu_Configure_Kmail_for_internal_usage.ogv" type='video/ogg;
codecs=
"theora, vorbis"'
/>
6159 <p>Download video as
6160 <a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/press/screencasts/2012-03-14-Debian-Edu_Configure_Kmail_for_internal_usage.ogv">Ogg
</a>.
</p>
6167 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
6172 <div class=
"padding"></div>
6176 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/St_rre_PC_tetthet_i_skolen_med_Skolelinux_.html">Større PC-tetthet i skolen med Skolelinux?
</a>
6182 <p>Den siste uka har det vært en del skriverier om hvor store
6183 forskjeller det er mellom skolene når det gjelder digital kompetanse.
6185 <a href=
"http://www.digi.no/891660/bekymret-for-it-i-skolen">oppslaget
6186 i Digi
</a>. Diskusjonen fikk meg til å bli litt nysgjerrig på om
6187 Linux-skoler har større PC-tettet enn snittet i landet. Grunnlaget
6188 for diskusjonen har vært undersøkelsen
6189 <a href=
"https://iktsenteret.no/ressurser/monitor-2011-skolens-digitale-tilstand">Monitor
6190 2011</a>, som bruker informasjon fra
6191 <a href=
"https://www.wis.no/gsi">Grunnskolens Informasjonssystem
</a>
6192 (GSI). GSI-data kan lastes ned fra web og jeg lastet ned en Excel-fil
6193 (intet åpen standard-valg tilgjengelig) med navn på alle skoler,
6194 hvilke kommune de befinner seg i og hvor mange elever pr. elev-PC de
6195 har rapportert inn. For å få en ide om svaret trenger jeg deretter å
6196 vite hvilke skoler i landet som bruker Linux, slik at jeg kan slå dem
6197 opp i GSI og finne ut hvor stor PC-tetthet de har.
</p>
6199 <p>Jeg vet om skoler i Balsfjord, Flora, Harstad, Kongsvinger, Narvik,
6200 Nittedal, Nord-Odal, Randaberg og Sunndal som bruker Skolelinux eller
6201 andre Linux-varianter. Jeg tror det er flere enn de
56 skolene jeg
6202 har klart å identifisere de siste dagene, men har ikke klart å få det
6203 bekreftet med offentlige kilder.
</p>
6205 <p>Monitor
2011-rapporteres side
95 forteller at det "ifølge GSI
6206 (
20120-
2011) er det
3,
11 elever per datamaskin når vi tar med alle
6207 grunnskoler (
1.-
10.trinn)". For de
56 Linux-skolene jeg har klart å
6208 koble mot informasjon i GSI er det
2,
28 elever per elevdatamaskin,
6209 hvilket betyr at det er
36% høyere PC-tetthet på Linux-skoler enn
6210 landsgjennomsnittet. Linux-skolen med høyest tettet blant de jeg har
6211 notert -skole er Flora ungdomsskule i Flora kommune med
0.82 elev
6212 pr. PC (
482 elever,
588 elevdatamaskiner).
</p>
6214 <p>Skolelinux gir datamaskiner lengre levetid, og en kan dermed få
6215 flere operative datamaskiner for samme budsjett, i tillegg til en
6216 rekke andre fordeler. Kan det være forklaringen på forskjellen?
</p>
6218 <p>Tallene må tas med en liten klype, da GSI ser ut til å ha endel
6219 feilføringer. Jeg synes i hvert fall en skole med
423 elever og
9
6220 elevmaskiner ser mistenkelig ut. Eller en skole med
346 elever,
0
6221 elevmaskiner, som er et annet ekstremt eksempel jeg fant.
</p>
6223 <p>Takk til Sturle Sunde, Klaus Ade Johnstad, Ole-Anders Andreassen og
6224 Trond Mæhlum for innspill om skoler med Linux.
</p>
6230 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
6235 <div class=
"padding"></div>
6239 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__John_Ingleby.html">Debian Edu interview: John Ingleby
</a>
6245 <p><a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a>
6246 users are spread all across the globe. The second inteview after
6247 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/2012/03/msg00001.html">the
6248 Squeeze release
</a> was publised is with John Ingleby, a teacher and
6249 long time Linux user in United Kingdom.
</p>
6251 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
6253 <p>I teach ICT part time at the Rudolf Steiner School in Kings
6254 Langley, near London, UK. Previously I worked as a technical
6255 author/trainer while my children attended the school, and I also
6256 contributed to the Schoolforge UK community with the aim of
6257 encouraging UK schools to adopt free/open source software. Five or six
6258 years ago we had about
50 schools interested in some way, but we
6259 weren't able to convert many of them into sustainable
6262 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
6263 project?
</strong></p>
6265 <p>Skolelinux had two representatives at an early Edubuntu meeting in
6266 London which I attended. However at that time our school network had
6267 just been installed using CentOS, LTSP
4 and GNOME. When LTSP
5 came
6268 along we switched to Edubuntu thin client servers so now we have a
6269 mixed environment which includes Windows PCs and student laptops, as
6270 well as their MacBooks and iPads. However, the proprietary systems
6271 have always been rather problematic, and we never built a GUI for the
6272 LDAP server, so when I discovered Skolelinux is configured for all
6273 these things we decided to try it.
</p>
6275 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
6278 <p>By far the biggest advantage is the Debian Edu community. Apart
6279 from that I have always believed in the same "sustainable computing"
6280 goals that Skolelinux is built on: installing Linux on computers which
6281 would otherwise be thrown away, to provide a reliable, secure and
6282 low-cost IT environment for schools. From my own experience I know
6283 that a part-time person can teach and manage a network of about
25
6284 Linux computers, but it would take much more of my time if we had
6285 proprietary software everywhere.
</p>
6287 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
6290 <p>As a newcomer I'm just finding out who's who in the community and
6291 how you're organised, and what your procedures are for dealing with
6292 various things such as editing manual pages and so-on. The only
6293 English language mailing list seems to be for developers as well as
6294 users, so my inbox needs heavy pruning each day!
</p>
6296 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
6298 <p>Besides the software already mentioned at school we use Samba,
6299 OpenLDAP, CUPS, Nagios and Dansguardian for the network, and on the
6300 desktops we have LibreOffice, Firefox, GIMP and Inkscape. At home I
6301 use Ubuntu and an Android
4 eePad Transformer (but I'm not sure if
6304 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
6305 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
6307 <p>That's a tough question! For very many years UK schools installed
6308 and taught only proprietary software, so that at the highest levels
6309 the notion of "computer" means simply "proprietary office
6310 applications". However, schools today are experiencing budget
6311 constraints, and many are having to think hard about upgrading Windows
6312 XP. At the same time, we have students showing teachers how to use
6313 iPads, MacBooks and Android, so the choice of operating system is no
6314 longer quite so automatic. What is more, our government at last
6315 realised that we need people with programming skills, so they're
6316 putting coding back in the curriculum! And it's encouraging that the
6317 first
10,
000 Raspberry Pi units sold out in
2 hours.
</p>
6319 <p>I don't really know what strategy is going to get UK schools to use
6320 free software, but building an active community of Skolelinux/Debian
6321 Edu users in this country has to be part of it.
</p>
6327 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
6332 <div class=
"padding"></div>
6336 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Writing_and_translating_documentation_in_Debian_Edu.html">Writing and translating documentation in Debian Edu
</a>
6342 <p>Documentation in Debian Edu is provided in several languages, and
6343 it is important to make it both easy to contribute and to keep the
6344 translated versions in sync. To do this we have come up with what we
6345 believe is a very efficient work flow.
</p>
6349 <li>The documentation is written in a
6350 <a href=
"http://moinmo.in">moinmoin wiki
</a> (see for example
6351 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze">the
6352 Squeeze release manual
</a>) with support for exporting the content as
6355 <li>This docbook document is given to po4a to extract a gettext style
6356 .pot file with the content, which in turn is used to create .po files
6357 with the translated text.
</li>
6359 <li>The .po files are given to translators, and they can always tell
6360 which part of the original wiki document is new or changed. They can
6361 use their normal translation tools like lokalize or poedit to write
6362 the translation. There is even a system in place to handle translated
6365 <li>The translated .po files are combined with the original docbook
6366 XML document using po4a to create a translated docbook document.
</li>
6368 <li>The final step is to use all the generated docbook files and
6369 create PDF and HTML version of the original and translated documents.
</li>
6373 <p>This setup work very well, but have a few issues. The biggest
6374 issue is that
<a href=
"http://moinmo.in/DocBook">the docbook support
6375 we use in moinmoin
</a> is not actively maintained. The docbook
6376 support is also buggy, and our build system contain workarounds to
6377 make sure the generated docbook is usable despite these bugs.
</p>
6379 <p>If you want to have a look at our setup, it is all there in the
6380 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/debian-edu-doc">debian-edu-doc
6387 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
6392 <div class=
"padding"></div>
6396 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/NUUG_presentasjon__Skolelinux___ferdig_oppsatt_skolenettl_sning.html">NUUG-presentasjon: Skolelinux - ferdig oppsatt skolenettløsning
</a>
6402 <p>I dag presenterte jeg ny versjon av Skolelinux for NUUGs medlemmer.
6403 <a href=
"http://www.hungry.com/~pere/mypapers/20120313-skolelinux-squeeze.html">Lysark
</a>
6404 er tilgjengelige allerede og
6405 <a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20120313-skolelinux/">video-opptak
</a>
6406 kommer så snart videogruppa til NUUG får publisert den. Jeg kom på
6407 endel punkter om nye ting i Squeeze-utgaven under veis som jeg burde
6408 hatt med, og har sikkert skrevet noe tull på lysarkene som jeg ennå
6409 ikke har oppdaget. Denne presentasjonen ble smurt ihop på veldig kort
6410 tid, og jeg rakk ikke finpusse den. Håper den kan være lærerik
6417 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
6422 <div class=
"padding"></div>
6426 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__K_re_Nordby.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Kåre Nordby
</a>
6432 <p>Første ut i serien med intervjuer av folk i
6433 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a>-miljøet etter at
6434 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/2012/03/msg00001.html">ny
6435 versjon av Skolelinux
</a> ble lansert i helga, er nylig valgte
6436 styremedlem i foreningen
6437 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">Fri programvare i
6438 Skolen
</a> (FRiSK) som organiserer
6439 Skolelinux-utviklingen og daglig leder i
6440 <a href=
"http://www.slxdrift.no/">Skolelinux Drift AS
</a>, selskapet
6441 prosjektet opprettet som et tilbud til skoler som ønsket en
6442 kommersiell samarbeidsparter. Det bør nevnes at jeg er styremedlem i
6443 Skolelinux Drift AS og styreleder i selskapets hovedeier stiftelsen
6444 <a href=
"http://www.linuxiskolen.no/slxdebianlabs/">SLX Debian Labs
</a>
6445 som beskytter verdiene til Skolelinux-prosjektet, og kjenner Kåre den
6448 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
6450 <p>Jeg har siden januar
2010 vært daglig leder i Skolelinux Drift AS,
6451 som leverer support, installasjon, tilpasning, drift, og opplæring på
6452 Debian Edu / Skolelinux. Fra
2012 er jeg valgt inn som styremedlem i
6453 FRiSK. Min forrige jobb var som KAM i Redpill Linpro (som er en av
6454 eierne i Skolelinux Drift). Før det var jeg daglig leder i et eget
7
6455 manns konsulent selskap som også startet med fri programvare mot
6458 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
6460 <p>Jeg hørte om det først når jeg jobbet i Redpill Linpro. Men jeg
6461 har også en datter som går på en friskole, som også bruker Skolelinux.
6462 Som kjent har ikke friskoler de samme økonomiske rammebetingelsene som
6463 offentlige skoler, så for dem var det det absolutt beste alternativet.
6464 De anser også Skolelinux som et stabilt system, som bare går og går (i
6465 motsetning til det lille Windows-baserte nettverket de har på
6468 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
6470 <p>Sentralisert drift av tynne og diskløse arbeidsstasjoner. Således
6471 lydløse og raskere arbeidsstasjoner som er bedre i klasserommet.
6472 Lengre levetid på PC'er. Store besparelser på maskinvare og drift. Og
6473 så klart fjerning av alle lisenskostnader. Personlig synes jeg også at
6474 mange av programmene er bedre enn alternativene. Men dette er ofte en
6475 smakssak og avhengig om man må ha det man er vant til fra før.
</p>
6477 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
6479 <p>For lite kjentskap til løsningen. Noen ganger for dårlig
6480 kompatibilitet med arbeidsstasjoners/bærbare maskiner sine
6481 nettverksdrivere eller skjermkort. Men dette løser vi i skolene ved
6482 standardisering. Ellers er det få, om nesten ingen, av de kjente
6483 maskinvare / infrastruktur leverandørene til fylkes- / kommuner som
6484 tilbyr denne plattformen. Skal dette endre seg så må kommunene selv
6485 sette slike krav til leverandørene.
</p>
6487 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
6489 <p>Har brukt OpenOffice.org siden starten (
2001 ?), Kun Linux på
6490 desktop siden
2005. Bruker i dag Kubuntu, Libreoffice og ymse annet
6491 programvare til ulik kontorbruk som er lett å installere / teste via
6492 alle programarkivene som finnes.
</p>
6494 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
6495 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
6497 <p>Fortsette å presentere flere av de gode eksemplene hvor Debian Edu
6498 / Skolelinux brukes i kommuner og enkeltskoler. Vi må få bedre frem
6499 at det er mulig tilknytte både Windows og Mac klienter på denne
6500 plattformen (selv om det vil øke driftskostnadene). Dette gjøres
6501 mange steder. Spesielt er det mange lærere som ønsker å bruke
6502 Windows/Mac-bærbare, gjerne som sin private PC også. Det er også mulig
6503 for kommunen å integrere med Active Directory i stedet for OpenLDAP
6504 som kommer med ut av boksen (selv om også dette øker kostnadene).
6505 Dette vil muligens bidra til å fjerne noe motstand hos noen
6506 potensielle brukere / driftpersonell for å ta i bruk noe
6507 nytt. Fremveksten av mobile brukere og nettbrett går i vår favør.
6508 Brukerne blir kjent og vant til flere nye operativsystemer /
6509 brukergrensesnitt. Så utviklerfellesskapet bør jobbe videre med å
6510 integrere flere nye klienttyper, som ultra lav-kostklienter og
6511 nettbrett (blant annet fri programvare-alternativet
6512 <a href=
"http://makeplaylive.com/">Spark
</a> med
6513 <a href=
"http://www.merproject.org/">Mer OS
</a> og
6514 <a href=
"http://plasma-active.org/">KDE Active Plasma
</a>).
</p>
6520 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
6525 <div class=
"padding"></div>
6529 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux___Debian_Edu_Squeeze_is_out_.html">Skolelinux / Debian Edu Squeeze is out!
</a>
6535 <p>This weekend we finally published the first stable release of
6536 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux / Debian Edu
</a> based
6537 on Debian/Squeeze. The full announcement is
6538 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/2012/03/msg00001.html">available
</a>
6539 from the project announcement list. Now is a good time to test if it
6540 you have not done so already.
</p>
6542 <p>I plan to present the new version at
6543 <a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20120313-skolelinux/">a NUUG
6544 meeting
</a> on tuesday. I look forward to seeing you there if you are
6545 in Oslo, Norway.
</p>
6551 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
6556 <div class=
"padding"></div>
6560 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_interview__Nigel_Barker.html">Debian Edu interview: Nigel Barker
</a>
6566 <p>Inspired by
<a href=
"http://raphaelhertzog.com/tag/interview/">the
6567 interview series
</a> conducted by Raphael, I started a Norwegian
6568 interview series with people involved in the Debian Edu / Skolelinux
6569 community. This was so popular that I believe it is time to move to a
6570 more international audience.
</p>
6572 <p>While
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu and
6573 Skolelinux
</a> originated in France and Norway, and have most users in
6574 Europe, there are users all around the globe. One of those far away
6575 from me is Nigel Barker, a long time Debian Edu system administrator
6576 and contributor. It is thanks to him that Debian Edu is adjusted to
6577 work out of the box in Japan. I got him to answer a few questions,
6578 and am happy to share the response with you. :)
6581 <p><strong>Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
</strong></p>
6583 <p>My name is Nigel Barker, and I am British. I am married to Yumiko,
6584 and we have three lovely children, aged
15,
14 and
4(!) I am the IT
6585 Coordinator at Hiroshima International School, Japan. I am also a
6586 teacher, and in fact I spend most of my day teaching Mathematics,
6587 Science, IT, and Chemistry. I was originally a Chemistry teacher, but
6588 I have always had an interest in computers. Another teacher teaches
6589 primary school IT, but apart from that I am the only computer person,
6590 so that means I am the network manager, technician and webmaster,
6591 also, and I help people with their computer problems. I teach python
6592 to beginners in an after-school club. I am way too busy, so I really
6593 appreciate the simplicity of Skolelinux.
</p>
6595 <p><strong>How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu
6596 project?
</strong></p>
6598 <p>In around
2004 or
5 I discovered the ltsp project, and set up a
6599 server in the IT lab. I wanted some way to connect it to our central
6600 samba server, which I was also quite poor at configuring. I discovered
6601 Edubuntu when it came out, but it didn't really improve my setup. I
6602 did various desperate searches for things like "school Linux server"
6603 and ended up in a document called "Drift" something or other. Reading
6604 there it became clear that Skolelinux was going to solve all my
6605 problems in one go. I was very excited, but apprehensive, because my
6606 previous attempts to install Debian had ended in failure (I used
6607 Mandrake for everything - ltsp, samba, apache, mail, ns...). I
6608 downloaded a beta version, had some problems, so subscribed to the
6609 Debian Edu list for help. I have remained subscribed ever since, and
6610 my school has run a Skolelinux network since Sarge.
</p>
6612 <p><strong>What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian
6615 <p>For me the integrated setup. This is not just the server, or the
6616 workstation, or the ltsp. Its all of them, and its all configured
6617 ready to go. I read somewhere in the early documentation that it is
6618 designed to be setup and managed by the Maths or Science teacher, who
6619 doesn't necessarily know much about computers, in a small Norwegian
6620 school. That describes me perfectly if you replace Norway with
6623 <p><strong>What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian
6626 <p>The desktop is fairly plain. If you compare it with Edubuntu, who
6627 have fun themes for children, or with distributions such as Mint, who
6628 make the desktop beautiful. They create a good impression on people
6629 who don't need to understand how to use any of it, but who might be
6630 important to the school. School administrators or directors, for
6631 instance, or parents. Even kids. Debian itself usually has ugly
6632 default theme settings. It was my dream a few years back that some
6633 kind of integration would allow Edubuntu to do the desktop stuff and
6634 Debian Edu the servers, but now I realise how impossible that is. A
6635 second disadvantage is that if something goes wrong, or you need to
6636 customise something, then suddenly the level of expertise required
6637 multiplies. For example, backup wasn't working properly in Lenny. It
6638 took me ages to learn how to set up my own server to do rsync backups.
6639 I am afraid of anything to do with ldap, but perhaps Gosa will
6642 <p><strong>Which free software do you use daily?
</strong></p>
6644 <p>Nowadays I only use Debian on my personal computers. I have one for
6645 studio work (I play guitar and write songs), running AV Linux
6646 (customised Debian) a netbook running Squeeze, and a bigger laptop
6647 still running Skolelinux Lenny workstation. I have a Tjener in my
6648 house, that's very useful for the family photos and music. At school
6649 the students only use Skolelinux. (Some teachers and the office still
6650 have windows). So that means we only use free software all day every
6651 day. Open office, The GIMP, Firefox/Iceweasel, VLC and Audacity are
6652 installed on every computer in school, irrespective of OS. We also
6653 have Koha on Debian for the library, and Apache, Moodle, b2evolution
6654 and Etomite on Debian for the www. The firewall is Untangle.
</p>
6656 <p><strong>Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to
6657 get schools to use free software?
</strong></p>
6659 <p>Current trends are in our favour. Open source is big in industry,
6660 and ordinary people have heard of it. The spread of Android and the
6661 popularity of Apple have helped to weaken the impression that you have
6662 to have Microsoft on everything. People complain to me much less about
6663 file formats and Word than they did
5 years ago. The Edu aspect is
6664 also a selling point. This is all customised for schools. Where is the
6665 Windows-edu, or the Mac-edu? But of course the main attraction is
6666 budget.The trick is to convince people that the quality is not
6667 compromised when you stop paying and use free software instead. That
6668 is one reason why I say the desktop experience is a weakness. People
6669 are not impressed when their USB drive doesn't work, or their browser
6670 doesn't play flash, for example.
</p>
6676 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>.
6681 <div class=
"padding"></div>
6685 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_screencast__Mass_creation_of_user_accounts_in_Squeeze.html">Debian Edu screencast: Mass creation of user accounts in Squeeze
</a>
6691 <!-- Video HTML based on http://www.diveintohtml5.net/video.html -->
6693 <p>One of the Debian Edu developers, Wolfgang Schweer, just created a
6694 screen cast documenting how to create a lot of new users in LDAP on
6695 Debian Edu Squeeze. The video is embedded here in quarter size, and
6696 also available from
<a href=
"http://vimeo.com/37675399">vimeo
</a> and
6698 <a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/press/screencasts/2012-02-29-debian_edu_mass_create_user_accounts.ogv">Ogg
6699 Theora
</a> file. Check it out below.
</p>
6701 <p><video id=
"gosa-mass-user-create-movie" width=
"256" height=
"184" preload controls
>
6702 <source src=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/press/screencasts/2012-02-29-debian_edu_mass_create_user_accounts.ogv" type='video/ogg;
codecs=
"theora, vorbis"'
/>
6703 <p>Download video as
6704 <a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux/press/screencasts/2012-02-29-debian_edu_mass_create_user_accounts.ogv">Ogg
</a>.
</p>
6711 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
6716 <div class=
"padding"></div>
6720 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Third_release_candidate_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Squeeze.html">Third release candidate of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Squeeze
</a>
6726 <p>This weekend we wrapped up and published the third release
6727 candidate for
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu /
6728 Skolelinux
</a> based on Squeeze. The full announcement is
6729 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/2012/03/msg00000.html">available
</a>
6730 from the project announcement list. Check it out if you
6731 need a software solution for your school.
</p>
6737 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
6742 <div class=
"padding"></div>
6746 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Stopmotion_for_making_stop_motion_animations_on_Linux___reloaded.html">Stopmotion for making stop motion animations on Linux - reloaded
</a>
6752 <p>Many years ago, the
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
6753 / Debian Edu project
</a> initiated a student project to create a tool
6754 for making stop motion movies. The proposal came from a teacher
6755 needing such tool on Skolelinux. The project, called "stopmotion",
6756 was manned by two extraordinary students and won a school award and a
6757 national aware with this great project. The project was initiated and
6758 mentored by Herman Robak, and manned by the students Bjørn Erik Nilsen
6759 and Fredrik Berg Kjølstad. They got in touch with people at Aardman
6760 Animation studio and received feedback on how professionals would like
6761 such stopmotion tool to work, and the end result was and is used by
6762 animators around the globe. But as is usual after studying, both got
6763 jobs and went elsewhere, and did not have time to properly tend to the
6764 project, and it has been lingering for a few years now. Until last
6767 <p>Last year some of the users got together with Herman, and moved the
6768 project to Sourceforge and in effect restarted the project under a new
6770 <a href=
"http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxstopmotion/">linuxstopmotion
</a>.
6771 The name change was done to make it possible to find the project using
6772 Internet search engines (try to search for 'stopmotion' to see what I
6773 mean). I've been following
6774 <a href=
"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxstopmotion-community">the
6775 mailing list
</a> and the improvement already in place and planned for
6776 the future is encouraging. If you want to make stop motion movies.
6777 Check it out. :)
</p>
6783 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video
</a>.
6788 <div class=
"padding"></div>
6792 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Frode_Danielsen.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Frode Danielsen
</a>
6798 <p>I serien med intervjuer av folk i
6799 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a>-miljøet møter vi
6800 denne gangen Frode Danielsen, som er leder for en IT-virksomhet som
6801 passer på IT-løsningen til flere kommuner i Hedmark-området, der noen
6802 av dem bruker Skolelinux i dag.
</p>
6804 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
6806 <p>Daglig leder i
<a href=
"http://www.hedmarken-ikt.no/">Hedmark
6807 IKT
</a>. En interkommunal IKT-virksomhet for Stange, Nord-Odal,
6808 Kongsvinger, Grue, Løten og Hamar kommuner. Vi er
32 ansatte
</p>
6810 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
6812 <p>Vi har vært i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet i flere
6813 sammenhenger, blant annet gjennom et par piloter som ikke har ført til
6814 noe konkret resultat. Nå sist gjennom satsingen på skolelinux i Grue,
6815 Kongsvinger og Nord-Odal.
</p>
6817 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong>
6818 <br><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
6820 <p>Jeg tror alle løsninger har fordeler og ulemper, litt avhengig av
6821 hvilket ståsted du selv har, så jeg unnlater å svare på dette.
</p>
6823 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
6825 <p>Ingen for min egen del, men vi har noe fri programvare i våre
6828 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
6829 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
6831 <p>Jeg tror ikke man skal ha en slik strategi. Man bør ha en strategi
6832 basert på å løse fremtidige behov, og velge løsninger som støtter opp
6839 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
6844 <div class=
"padding"></div>
6848 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Second_release_candidate_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Squeeze.html">Second release candidate of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Squeeze
</a>
6854 <p>This weekend we wrapped up and published the second release
6855 candidate for
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu /
6856 Skolelinux
</a> based on Squeeze. The full announcement did for some
6857 reason not make it the project announcement list, but is
6858 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/02/msg00015.html">available
</a>
6859 from the Debian development announcement list. Check it out if you
6860 need a software solution for your school.
</p>
6866 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
6871 <div class=
"padding"></div>
6875 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Knut_Yrvin.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Knut Yrvin
</a>
6881 <p>I serien med intervjuer av folk i
6882 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a>-miljøet, får vi nå
6883 høre fra nyvalgt leder i foreningen
6884 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">Fri programvare i
6885 Skolen
</a> og en av stifterne av Skolelinux-prosjektet.
</p>
6887 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
6889 <p>Knut Yrvin her. Jobber i Nokia med å fremme rammeverket Qt og QML
6890 med tilhørende utviklerverktøy. Rollen er som leder av
6891 friprog-samfunn. I fjor var jeg med å legge om utviklingen av Qt til
6892 åpen forvaltning. På den måten kan alle som bidrar til Qt gjøre det
6893 på like vilkår. Nå er det
6894 <a href=
"http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/12/22/qt-5-%E2%80%93-a-look-back-at-the-numbers/">over
6895 1000 utviklere
</a> som bidrar til Qt. Med overgangen til åpen
6896 forvaltning er utviklingen av Qt mer åpen enn Linux-kjernen.
</p>
6898 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
6900 <p>Jeg var en av initiativtagerne til Skolelinux i
2001. Skolene slet
6901 med både utstyr og Internett-tilgang. De klarte ikke å møte
6902 forventningene til data i skolen. Driften av PC-ene var uholdbar. Som
6903 regel hadde rektor pekt ut en ivrig lærer til å passe på PC-ene,
6904 gjerne naturfaglæreren. Mange lærere jobbet mye ubetalt overtid for å
6905 vedlikeholde
30-
40 datamaskiner på hver sin skole. Med
300 elever og
6906 lærere som brukere, blir det fort mye mer arbeid enn de
4-
8 timene de
6907 kunne bruke på PC-drift. Skolene hadde kun en femtedel av
6908 IT-budsjettet som ble brukt på PC-ene i rådhuset.
</p>
6910 <p>Vi erfarte at skolene hadde mye datautstyr som stod ubrukt. Skolene
6911 manglet penger til Microsoft-lisenser. Selv med solide skolerabatter,
6912 kostet Microsoft-lisensene gjerne like mye som PC-ene i seg selv over
6913 en periode på
5-
6 år.
</p>
6915 <p>Viktigheten av språklig mangfold og pedagogiske programmer var også
6916 viktig for oss. Vi oversatte mange skoleaktuelle programmer til
6917 nynorsk, nordsamisk og bokmål. Dette lenge før andre tok denne
6918 oppgaven seriøst. Allerede etter ett år hadde vi etablert et helt
6919 arsenal av skoleaktuelle programmer på nynorsk, bokmål og
6920 nordsamisk. Vi spredde vår ide om språklig mangfold til de andre frie
6921 prosjekter internasjonalt. Resultatene ser vi i mange land. Det er de
6922 frie programmene som kommer på brukernes morsmål. Det er en av flere
6923 gode grunner til at fri programvare som LibreOffice, VLC, KDE og
6924 Firefox konkurrerer ut godseid programvare mange steder i verden.
</p>
6926 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
6928 <p>Fordelene er at Skolelinux tilbyr over
100 skoleaktuelle programmer
6929 på de norske språkene, uten ett øre i lisenskostnader. Systemet gir
6930 enormt lave driftskostnader med diskløse arbeidsstasjoner og bærbare
6931 med roaming. Skolelinux krever også mindre av maskinvaren.
</p>
6933 <p>Man kan fint kjøre systemet med
512 MB RAM på en bærbar PC sammen
6934 med en nettvideo i nettleseren og en presentasjon med
6935 LibreOffice. Konkurrerende system krever fort
2 GB RAM for å få til
6936 noe tilsvarende uten at det går ufattelig tregt. Skal man gjøre noe
6937 nyttig, krever konkurrentene til Linux mye større harddisk. Skoler har
6938 rapportert at de fort har fått
50% flere nye maskiner om de velger
6939 Linux. Dette i tillegg til de årlige besparelsene ved å unngå
6940 lisensbetaling til godseid programvare.
</p>
6942 <p>De lave driftskostnadene gjør at delstater i Europa har titusener
6943 av datamaskiner med Skolelinux i skolen. F.eks. er det under ti
6944 personer som drifter
70.000 PC-systemer i skolene i Extremadura i
6945 Spania. Det er slett ikke uvanlig at norske kommuner har
1500-
2000
6946 datamaskiner med Skolelinux. Driften tar ett årsverk. Slår flere
6947 kommuner seg sammen, kan de få samme sentraliserte stordriftsfordeler
6948 som delstater i Tyskland og Spania. Delstater som kjører Skolelinux
6949 på alle skolene. Bare noen få personer sentraldrifter titusenvis av
6952 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
6954 <p>Den største ulempen for Skolelinux er motstand mot Linux fra
6955 IT-sjefer i det offentlige. Dette er ledere som holder innlegg som
6956 snytt ut av evangelist-håndboka til Microsoft. Dette gjøres i ett
6957 arbeidsmarked med stor vekst i etterspørselen etter Linux-fagfolk i
6958 privat sektor. Etterspørselen har økt mer enn noe annet tekniske yrke
6959 siste tiåret. Åtte av ti ledere vil ansette Linux-fagfolk i
2012,
6960 rapporterer jobbnettstedet Dice.com på oppdrag av Linux
6963 <p>Det mangler
16.000 ingeniører og IKT-fagfolk i Norge rapporterte
6964 arbeids- og velferdsetaten NAV. Linux-fagfolk kan velge svært
6965 interessante jobber med alt fra apps på ledende mobilsystem laget med
6966 Linux, sky- tjenester eller web-applikasjoner. De raskest voksende
6967 teknologiselskapene i verden er ute etter Linux-fagfolk. Det være seg
6968 Amazon, Google, Facebook og IBM for å nevne noen. Linux er kritisk
6969 for å sikre veksten i markedet. Det sier seg selv at lønningene og
6970 jobbmulighetene er bedre enn for andre tekniske yrker.
</p>
6972 <p>Skal man lage apps for mobilen, smart-TV-en eller
6973 underholdningssystemet i bilen eller på flyet, er det Linux som
6974 gjelder. Med en slik konkurranse om Linux-kompetansen, kombinert med
6975 motstanden mot Linux hos mange IT-sjefer i offentlig sektor, så
6976 hindrer kommunene rekruttering av flere Linux- fagfolk. Skolene blir
6977 tvunget til å velge dyrere og mindre komplette IT-system. De har
6978 blitt hengende igjen slik IT var på begynnelsen av
2000- tallet. Dette
6979 fordi IT-ledere ikke har tilpasset seg markedet det siste tiåret.
</p>
6981 <p>Når det er sagt, er Skolelinux svært enkelt å lære seg også for de
6982 som ikke kan. Det viser alle lærerne som drifter systemet for
6983 hundrevis og tusenvis av systemer. Det meste er på plass rett ut av
6984 boksen. I tillegg er det solid med dokumentasjon med god hjelp på
6985 nettet. Det er mange kommuner som har ansatt en lærer som først lærte
6986 Skolelinux på sin skole, for så å drifte alle PC-ene i kommunen med
6987 Skolelinux. Det kan fort være snakk om
1000-
3000 datamaskiner på
10-
15
6988 skoler som sentraldriftes med en stilling. Står man ordentlig fast,
6989 kan man også kjøpe profesjonell hjelp fra selskap som støtter
6990 Skolelinux. Det er flere slike selskap i Norge og i utlandet.
</p>
6992 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
6994 <p>Qt SDK, LibreOffice, Firefox, VLC og KDE-skrivebordet. Dette på et
6995 Debian-basert GNU/Linux-system. Jeg bruker også noen morsomme
6996 3D-spill. Idag kan jeg velge mellom over
30.000 Linux-programmer. Det
6997 finnes ikke tid i livet å undersøke alle valgmulighetene. Derfor er
6998 det bra med Skolelinux i skolen, da utvalget av programmer er
6999 begrenset til hva som er aktuelt i skolefagene.
</p>
7001 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
7002 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
7004 <p>Vi må selge hele Skolelinux forhåndsinstallert på maskinvare i hele
7005 pakker med
50-
100-
1000 PC-klienter med servere. Dette kan selges til
7006 enkeltskoler eller hele kommuner. Pakken må inneholde tjenermaskiner,
7007 svært rimelige diskløse arbeidsstasjoner, nettbrett med Plasma Active,
7008 og bærbare med roaming. Alt er godt testet med Debian. I et slikt
7009 anbud er det mulig å legge til sentraliserte drifts- og
7010 støttetjenester.
</p>
7012 <p>Man bør også selge sky-tjenester som læreadministrative systemet
7013 Moodle og driftsovervåking. I tillegg så bør man slenge seg på med
7014 presentasjoner de gangene LibreOffice og andre friprog-produkter
7015 selges til kommuner.
</p>
7021 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
7026 <div class=
"padding"></div>
7030 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_release_candidate_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Squeeze.html">First release candidate of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Squeeze
</a>
7036 <p>One week delayed due to DVD build problems, we managed today to
7037 wrap up and publish the first release candidate for
7038 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a> based
7039 on Squeeze. The full announcement is
7040 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/2012/02/msg00001.html">available
</a>
7041 on the project announcement list. Check it out if you need a software
7042 solution for your school.
</p>
7048 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
7053 <div class=
"padding"></div>
7057 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Olav_Dahlum.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Olav Dahlum
</a>
7063 <p>I serien med intervjuer av folk i
7064 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a>-miljøet, får vi nå
7065 høre fra et nyvalgt medlem i foreningen
7066 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">Fri programvare i
7069 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
7071 <p>Jeg heter Olav Dahlum, og er frilans oversetter, tester,
7072 prosjektleder og bruker av fri og åpen programvare som
7073 LibreOffice. Jeg er også et av styremedlemmene i FRISK.
</p>
7075 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
7077 <p>Jeg kom i kontakt med prosjektet i
2009, da jeg ble ansatt i
7078 stiftelsen Åpne kontorprogram på norsk for å oversette og teste den
7079 norske utgaven av OpenOffice.org. Arbeidet har hele tiden vært
7080 koordinert sammen med Skolelinux, og mange av de samme menneskene er
7081 involvert, så på den måten ble jeg en del av den utvidede
7084 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
7086 <p>Skolelinux handler i likhet med utdanningssektoren om å dele
7087 kunnskap med andre, og det er dette som er hovedstyrken til
7088 prosjektet. Selv om Skolelinux hovedsaklig er involvert i utvikling
7089 av programvare, er det også et sted der man kan utfolde seg uavhengig
7090 av bakgrunn og ferdigheter.
</p>
7092 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
7094 <p>Liten utbredelse og manglende støtte fra leverandører som leverer
7095 pedagogisk programvare til skolebruk. Kunne kanskje hatt flere
7096 verktøy som letter administrasjonen ytterligere, slik at også mindre
7097 erfarne databrukere kan utføre lett vedlikehold og rutinejobber.
</p>
7099 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
7101 <p>Jeg er nesten forpliktet til å si at jeg bruker LibreOffice... Jeg
7102 bruker forøvrig frie og åpne operativsystemer basert på
7103 operativsystemkjernen Linux, for tiden openSUSE
12,
1 med KDE4. Men
7104 hvis jeg skal dra fram noen flere eksempler så er nok Mozilla Firefox
7105 og Thunderbird to av de jeg bruker mest. I tillegg er jeg en flittig
7106 bruker av OpenSSH, Irssi, Midnight Commander, Git, Subversion,
7107 Translation Toolkit og Super Maryo Chronicles (litt gøy skal man ha,
7108 og med to håndkontroller liggende er det ikke til å unngå).
</p>
7110 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
7111 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
7113 <p>Vi må få leverandører av pedagogisk programvare med på laget, men
7114 også utvikle vår egen tilpasset det norske markedet. Det er også
7115 mulig å involvere utdanningssektoren direkte i arbeidet, for eksempel
7116 gjennom studentprosjekter der elevene selv er med å utforme
7117 programvare direkte eller indirekte gjennom aktive bidrag. Dette gjør
7118 ikke bare samarbeidet tettere, men fokuset på standarder og friheten
7119 til å velge sin egen løsning vil kanskje stimulere interessen for
7120 framtidig deltakelse i bransjen. Vi som driver med fri og åpen
7121 programvare ønsker oss ikke rene konsumenter, men tenkende og
7122 selvstendige individer som kan være med å skape sin egen fremtid.
</p>
7128 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
7133 <div class=
"padding"></div>
7137 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_proxy_configuration_with_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux.html">Automatic proxy configuration with Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a>
7143 <p>New in the Squeeze version of
7144 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a> is the
7145 ability for clients to automatically configure their proxy settings
7146 based on their environment. We want all systems on the client to use
7147 the WPAD based proxy definition fetched from
<tt>http://wpad/wpad.dat
</tt>, to
7148 allow sites to control the proxy setting from a central place and make
7149 sure clients do not have hard coded proxy settings. The schools can
7150 change the global proxy setting by editing
7151 <tt>tjener:/etc/debian-edu/www/wpad.dat
</tt> and the change propagate
7152 to all Debian Edu clients in the network.
</p>
7154 <p>The problem is that some systems do not understand the WPAD system.
7155 In other words, how do one get from a WPAD file like this (this is a
7156 simple one, they can run arbitrary code):
</p>
7159 function FindProxyForURL(url, host)
7161 if (!isResolvable(host) ||
7162 isPlainHostName(host) ||
7163 dnsDomainIs(host, ".intern"))
7166 return "PROXY webcache:
3128; DIRECT";
7170 <p>to a proxy setting in the process environment looking like this:
</p>
7173 http_proxy=http://webcache:
3128/
7174 ftp_proxy=http://webcache:
3128/
7177 <p>To do this conversion I developed a perl script that will execute
7178 the javascript fragment in the WPAD file and return the proxy that
7180 <tt><a href=
"http://www.debian.org/">http://www.debian.org/
</a></tt>,
7181 and insert this extracted proxy URL in
<tt>/etc/environment
</tt> and
7182 <tt>/etc/apt/apt.conf
</tt>. The perl script wpad-extract work just
7183 fine in Squeeze, but in Wheezy the library it need to run the
7184 javascript code is
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/631045">no longer
7185 able to build
</a> because the C library it depended on is now a C++
7186 library. I hope someone find a solution to that problem before Wheezy
7187 is frozen. An alternative would be for us to rewrite wpad-extract to
7188 use some other javascript library currently working in Wheezy, but no
7189 known alternative is known at the moment.
</p>
7191 <p>This automatic proxy system allow the roaming workstation (aka
7192 laptop) setup in Debian Edu/Squeeze to use the proxy when the laptop
7193 is connected to the backbone network in a Debian Edu setup, and to
7194 automatically use any proxy present and announced using the WPAD
7195 feature when it is connected to other networks. And if no proxy is
7196 announced, direct connections will be used instead.
</p>
7198 <p>Silently using a proxy announced on the network might be a privacy
7199 or security problem. But those controlling DHCP and DNS on a network
7200 could just as easily set up a transparent proxy, and force all HTTP
7201 and FTP connections to use a proxy anyway, so I consider that
7202 distinction to be academic. If you are afraid of using the wrong
7203 proxy, you should avoid connecting to the network in question in the
7204 first place. In Debian Edu, the proxy setup is updated using dhcp and
7205 ifupdown hooks, to make sure the configuration is updated every time
7206 the network setup changes.
</p>
7208 <p>The WPAD system is documented in a
7209 <a href=
"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-wrec-wpad-01">IETF
7211 <a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Proxy_Autodiscovery_Protocol">Wikipedia
7212 page
</a> for those that want to learn more.
</p>
7218 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
7223 <div class=
"padding"></div>
7227 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Axel_Bojer.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Axel Bojer
</a>
7233 <p>I serien med intervjuer av folk i
7234 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a>-miljøet har jeg
7235 fått en av oversetterne som har vært med siden starten i tale.
</p>
7237 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
7239 <p>Jeg heter Axel Bojer og er datalærer, tysklærer, oversetter med
7242 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
7244 <p>Tror jeg så en annonsering på nettet i slutten av
2001 og ville
7245 være med som oversetter. Jeg kom med på en utviklersamling og
7246 prosjektet var da helt i starten. Det var spennende å være med mens
7247 prosjektet vokste til og utviklet seg.
</p>
7249 <p>Jeg har «alltid» vært språkinteressert og hadde nettopp startet med
7250 Linux og tror jeg tenkte det passet å bidra. Var også glad for å få
7251 en Debian-distribusjon, og ville gjerne bruke den selv. Til å begynne
7252 med brukte jeg først Mandrake og så Debian. Og siden jeg oppdaget at
7253 det ikke var noen mulighet for å bruke den som enkeltstående i lang
7254 tid, så gikk jeg etterhvert over til Kubuntu
</p>
7256 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
7258 <p>Løsningen er forholdsvis lett å sette opp, gratis, fri programvare
7259 og gjør det mulig å gjenbruke eldre maskiner. Det fine med Debian er
7260 at det er stabilt og har en veldig stor mengde programmer. Jeg liker
7261 også apt. :-) Jeg liker også friheten ved Linux og muligheten til å
7262 delta og forme sin egen datahverdag.
</p>
7264 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
7266 <p>Skolelinux er for lite kjent og for sent ute med å gi ut nye
7269 <p>Da jeg selv i hovedsak bruker Kubuntu, så kan jeg egentlig ikke
7270 svare så detaljert rundt ulempene med Skolelinux. Hovedårsaken til at
7271 jeg bruker Kubuntu er nok at da vi begynte med det mener jeg det ikke
7272 var noen annen løsning. «Vandrende arbeidsstasjon» mener jeg ikke
7273 fantes da. Dessuten ville jeg ha siste versjon, da den KDE-versjonen
7274 som var i Skolelinux den gangen var en god del enklere (tror det var
7275 KDE
2) var dårligere i mine øyne enn versjon
3.
</p>
7277 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
7279 <p>Jeg bruker blant annet Kubuntu, LibreOffice, Thunderbird, Firefox,
7280 Kate,
<a href=
"http://comix.sourceforge.net/">Comix
</a> og Konsole. Og
7281 en hel haug andre ved behov :-)
</p>
7283 <p>Har oversatt Comix selv, men det er jo ikke skjedd noe med Comix
7284 siden
2009, så den er det nok bare jeg som har. Om andre vil ha den
7285 gir jeg den gjerne videre. Ser at noen har startet på
7286 <a href=
"http://mcomix.sourceforge.net/">MComix
</a> siden jeg så på så
7287 på dette sist, så nå er jeg igang med å teste og oversette den
7290 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
7291 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
7293 <p>Det viktigste er å forankre beslutningen i kollegiet og med de som
7294 er ansvarlige for å vedlikeholde og bruke datamaskinene. Flest mulig
7295 bør være med på å holde det (sosialt) vedlike, kjenne og støtte
7296 prinsippene. Som enkeltmannsprosjekt blir det lett veldig sårbart,
7297 særlig når (Skole)linux ennå i stor grad er en motkultur og ikke noe
7298 en stor nok andel av beslutningstakere, brukere osv kjenner til og
7301 <p>Jeg tror det viktigste er å fortsette å holde fri programvare godt,
7302 oppdatert, minimere antall feil, ha en god kontakt med brukerne og
7303 attraktivt og spennende programmer. Beholde alt som er bra og ha det
7304 tilgjengelig samtidig som man tilbyr det nyeste og rareste for de som
7311 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
7316 <div class=
"padding"></div>
7320 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Saving_power_with_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_using_shutdown_at_night.html">Saving power with Debian Edu / Skolelinux using shutdown-at-night
</a>
7326 <p>Since the Lenny version of
7327 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a>, a
7328 feature to save power have been included. It is as simple as it is
7329 practical: Shut down unused clients at night, and turn them on again
7330 in the morning. This is done using the
7331 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/shutdown-at-night.html">shutdown-at-night
</a> Debian package.
</p>
7333 <p>To enable this feature on a client, the machine need to be added to
7334 the netgroup shutdown-at-night-hosts. For Debian Edu, this is done in
7335 LDAP, and once this is in place, the machine in question will check
7336 every hour from
16:
00 until
06:
00 to see if the machine is unused, and
7337 shut it down if it is. If the hardware in question is supported by
7339 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/nvram-wakeup.html">nvram-wakeup
</a>
7340 package, the BIOS is told to turn the machine back on around
07:
00 +-
7341 10 minutes. If this isn't working, one can configure wake-on-lan to
7342 try to turn on the client. The wake-on-lan option is only documented
7343 and not enabled by default in Debian Edu.
</p>
7345 <p>It is important to not turn all machines on at once, as this can
7346 blow a fuse if several computers are connected to the same fuse like
7347 the common setup for a classroom. The nvram-wakeup method only work
7348 for machines with a functioning hardware/BIOS clock. I've seen old
7349 machines where the BIOS battery were dead and the hardware clock were
7350 starting from
0 (or was it
1990?) every boot. If you have one of
7351 those, you have to turn on the computer manually.
</p>
7353 <p>The shutdown-at-night package is completely self contained, and can
7354 also be used outside the Debian Edu environment. For those without a
7355 central LDAP server with netgroups, one can instead touch the file
7356 <tt>/etc/shutdown-at-night/shutdown-at-night
</tt> to enable it.
7357 Perhaps you too can use it to save some power?
</p>
7363 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
7368 <div class=
"padding"></div>
7372 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Third_beta_version_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Squeeze.html">Third beta version of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Squeeze
</a>
7378 <p>I am happy to announce that finally we managed today to wrap up and
7379 publish the third beta version of
7380 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a> based
7381 on Squeeze. If you want to test a LDAP backed Kerberos server with
7382 out of the box PXE configuration for running diskless machines and
7383 installing new machines, check it out. If you need a software
7384 solution for your school, check it out too. The full announcement is
7385 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/2012/02/msg00000.html">available
</a>
7386 on the project announcement list.
</p>
7388 <p>I am very happy to report these changes and improvements since
7389 beta2 (there are more, see announcement for full list):
</p>
7393 <li>It is now possible to change the pre-configured IP subnet from
7394 10.0.0.0/
8 to something else by using the subnet-change tool after
7395 the installation.
</li>
7397 <li>Too full partitions are now automatically extended on the Main
7398 Server, based on the rules specified in /etc/fsautoresizetab.
</li>
7400 <li>The CUPS queues are now automatically flushed every night, and all
7401 disabled queues are restarted every hour. This should cut down on
7402 the amount of manual administration needed for printers.
</li>
7404 <li>The set of initial users have been changed. Now a personal user
7405 for the local system administrator is created during installation
7406 instead of the previously created localadmin and super-admin users,
7407 and this user is granted administrative privileges using group
7408 membership. This reduces the number of passwords one need to keep
7409 up to date on the system.
</li>
7413 <p>The new main server seem to work so well that I am testing it as my
7414 private DNS/LDAP/Kerberos/PXE/LTSP server at home. I will use it look
7415 for issues we could fix to polish Debian Edu even further before the
7416 final Squeeze release is published.
</p>
7418 <p>Next weekend the project organise a
7419 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/2012/01/msg00001.html">developer
7420 gathering
</a> in Oslo. We will continue the work on the Squeeze
7421 version, and start initial planning for the Wheezy version. Perhaps I
7422 will see you there?
</p>
7428 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
7433 <div class=
"padding"></div>
7437 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Handling_non_free_firmware_in_Debian_Edu_Squeeze.html">Handling non-free firmware in Debian Edu/Squeeze
</a>
7443 <p>With some computer hardware, one need non-free firmware blobs.
7444 This is the sad fact of todays computers. In the next version of
7445 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a> based
7446 on Squeeze, we provide several scripts and modifications to make
7447 firmware blobs easier to handle. The common use case I run into is a
7448 laptop with a wireless network card requiring non-free firmware to
7449 work, but there are other use cases as well.
</p>
7451 <p>First and foremost, Debian Edu provide ISO images for DVD and CD
7452 with all firmware packages in the Debian sections main and non-free
7453 included, to ensure debian-installer find and can install all of them
7454 during installation. This take care firmware for network devices used
7455 by the installer when installing from from local media. But for
7456 example multimedia devices are not activated in the installer and are
7457 not taken care of by this.
</p>
7459 <p>For non-network devices, we provide the script
7460 <tt>/usr/share/debian-edu-config/tools/auto-addfirmware
</tt> which
7461 search through the
<tt>dmesg
</tt> output for drivers requesting extra
7462 firmware. The firmware file name is looked up in the Contents-ARCH.gz
7463 file available in the package repository, and the packages providing
7464 the requested firmware file(s) is installed. I have proposed to do
7465 something similar in debian-installer (BTS report
7466 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/655507">#
655507</a>), to allow PXE
7467 installs of Debian to handle firmware installation better. Run the
7468 script as root from the command line to fetch and install the needed
7469 firmware packages.
</p>
7471 <p>Debian Edu provide PXE installation of Debian out of the box, and
7472 because some machines need firmware to get their network cards
7473 working, the installation initrd some times need extra firmware
7474 included to be able to install at all. To fill the PXE installation
7475 initrd with extra firmware, the
7476 <tt>/usr/share/debian-edu-config/tools/pxe-addfirmware
</tt> script is
7477 provided. Again, just run it as root on the command line to fill the
7478 PXE initrd with firmware packages.
</p>
7480 <p>Last, some LTSP clients might also need firmware to get their
7481 network cards working. For this,
7482 <tt>/usr/share/debian-edu-config/tools/ltsp-addfirmware
</tt> is
7483 provided to update the LTSP initrd with firmware blobs. It is used
7484 the same way as the other firmware related tools.
</p>
7486 <p>At the moment, we do not run any of these during installation. We
7487 do not know if this is acceptable for the local administrator to use
7488 non-free software, and it is their choice.
</p>
7490 <p>We plan to release beta3 this weekend. You might want to give it a
7497 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
7502 <div class=
"padding"></div>
7506 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skjermbilder_fra_nordsamisk_installasjon_av_Skolelinux_Squeeze.html">Skjermbilder fra nordsamisk installasjon av Skolelinux/Squeeze
</a>
7512 <p>For morro skyld har jeg gjennomført en nordsamisk installasjon for
7513 neste utgave av
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a>
7514 (Squeeze) og knipset skjermbilder av resultatet.
</p>
7516 <p>Som en kan se der er det noen oversettelser som mangler. Det hadde
7517 vært hyggelig hvis alle tekstene som vises i Skolelinux-installasjonen
7518 ble oversatt til nordsamisk, men for å få det til må noen som forstår
7519 språket melde seg til dyst. Det er mangel på nordsamiske oversettere
7520 av fri programvare. Hvis noen starter raskt, så bør en rekke å
7521 fullføre Wheezy-utgaven før den gis ut. :)
</p>
7523 <p>Se
<a href=
"http://d-i.debian.org/l10n-stats/">oversetterstatistikk for
7524 debian installer
</a> for detaljert status. Jeg har tipset
7525 <a href=
"https://lister.ping.uio.no/mailman/listinfo/i18n-sme">epostlisten for samiskoversettelser
</a>,
7526 men det har vært veldig liten aktivitet der de siste årene.
</p>
7528 <p><a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/01-isomenu.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/01-isomenu.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7529 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/02-sme-lang.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/02-sme-lang.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7530 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/03-sme-place.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/03-sme-place.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7531 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/04-sme-keymap.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/04-sme-keymap.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7532 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/05-sme-profile.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/05-sme-profile.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7533 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/06-sme-autopart.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/06-sme-autopart.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7534 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/07-sme-popcon.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/07-sme-popcon.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7535 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/08-sme-rootpw1.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/08-sme-rootpw1.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7536 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/09-sme-rootpw2.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/09-sme-rootpw2.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7537 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/10-sme-firstuser.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/10-sme-firstuser.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7538 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/11-sme-firstusername.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/11-sme-firstusername.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7539 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/12-sme-firstuserpw1.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/12-sme-firstuserpw1.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7540 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/13-sme-firstuserpw2.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/13-sme-firstuserpw2.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7541 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/14-sme-part.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/14-sme-part.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7542 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/15-sme-debootstrap.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/15-sme-debootstrap.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7543 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/16-sme-tasksel.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/16-sme-tasksel.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7544 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/17-sme-wordlist.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/17-sme-wordlist.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7545 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/18-sme-tasksel.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/18-sme-tasksel.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7546 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/19-sme-ltsp.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/19-sme-ltsp.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7547 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/20-sme-grub.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/20-sme-grub.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7548 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/21-sme-finish-install.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/21-sme-finish-install.png" width=
"40%"></a>
7549 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/22-sme-finish-message.png"><img src=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2012-01-26-skolelinux-sme/22-sme-finish-message.png" width=
"40%"></a></p>
7555 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
7560 <div class=
"padding"></div>
7564 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Setting_up_a_new_school_with_Debian_Edu_Squeeze.html">Setting up a new school with Debian Edu/Squeeze
</a>
7570 <p>The next version of
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu
7571 / Skolelinux
</a> will include a new tool
7572 <tt>sitesummary2ldapdhcp
</tt>, which can be used to quickly set up all
7573 the computers in a school without much manual labour. Here is a short
7574 summary on how to use it to set up a new school.
</p>
7576 <p>First, install a combined Main Server and Thin Client Server as the
7577 central server in the network. Next, PXE boot all the client machines
7578 as thin clients and wait
5 minutes after the last client booted to
7579 allow the clients to report their existence to the central server. When
7580 this is done, log on to the central server and run
7581 <tt>sitesummary2ldapdhcp -a
</tt> in the
<tt>konsole
</tt> to use the
7582 collected information to generate system objects in LDAP. The output
7583 will look similar to this:
</p>
7585 <p><blockquote><pre>
7586 % sitesummary2ldapdhcp -a
7587 info: Updating machine tjener.intern [
10.0.2.2] id ether-
00:
01:
02:
03:
04:
05.
7588 info: Create GOsa machine for auto-mac-
00-
01-
02-
03-
04-
06 [
10.0.16.20] id ether-
00:
01:
02:
03:
04:
06.
7590 Enter password if you want to activate these changes, and ^c to abort.
7592 Connecting to LDAP as cn=admin,ou=ldap-access,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
7593 enter password: *******
7595 </pre></blockquote></p>
7597 <p>After providing the LDAP administrative password (the same as the
7598 root password set during installation), the LDAP database will be
7599 populated with system objects for each PXE booted machine with
7600 automatically generated names. The final step to set up the school is
7601 then to log into
<a href=
"https://oss.gonicus.de/labs/gosa/">GOsa
</a>,
7602 the web based user, group and system administration system to change
7603 system names, add systems to the correct host groups and finally
7604 enable DHCP and DNS for the systems. All clients that should be used
7605 as diskless workstations should be added to the workstation-hosts
7606 group. After this is done, all computers can be booted again via PXE
7607 and get their assigned names and group based configuration
7610 <p>We plan to release beta3 with the updated version of this feature
7611 enabled this weekend. You might want to give it a try.
</p>
7613 <p>Update
2012-
01-
28: When calling sitesummary2ldapdhcp to add new
7614 hosts, one need to add the option -a. I forgot to mention this in my
7615 original text, and have added it to the text now.
</p>
7621 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary
</a>.
7626 <div class=
"padding"></div>
7630 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Paul_Reidar_L_snesl_kken.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Paul Reidar Løsnesløkken
</a>
7636 <p>I serien med intervjuer av folk i
7637 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a>-miljøet, har jeg nå
7638 lyktes med å få tak i en skolemann som ikke er aktiv med utviklingen,
7639 men likevel har vært med nesten siden starten av prosjektet. Jeg
7640 ønsker derfor velkommen til Paul Reidar Løsnesløkken, en mann med
7641 mange års erfaring i bruk av Skolelinux.
</p>
7643 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
7645 <p>Jeg driftet tidligere IKT løsningen for skolene i
7646 <a href=
"http://www.nord-odal.kommune.no/">Nord-Odal
</a>. I dag er jeg
7647 IKT-konsulent for hele kommunen og samarbeider med
7648 <a href=
"http://www.hedmarken-ikt.no/">Hedmark-IKT
</a> for best mulig
7649 tjenester til kommunen. Jeg har bakgrunn som elektronikkreparatør og
7650 grunnskolelærer og har tatt en del fag innen IKT, i hovedsak
7651 driftsfag. IKT i Nord-Odal kommune blir i dag driftet av Hedmark IKT
7652 som er et samarbeid mellom Løten, Stange, Grue, Hamar, Kongsvinger og
7653 Nord-Odal. Jeg er fortsatt "IKT-personen" på skolene i kommunen og
7654 følger opp og gjør enkelte mindre endringer der.
</p>
7656 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
7658 <p>Kommunen satset på Skolelinux i
2004. Jeg var ikke med i
7659 beslutningsprosessen den gang, men ble likevel med fra starten når
7660 dette ble levert.
</p>
7662 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
7664 <p>Fordelene med Skolelinux er rask oppstart, sentral drift av
7665 klientene, klienter som jobber raskt og effektivt, bedre
7666 funksjonalitet på eldre utstyr og en ganske god programpakke med fri
7667 programvare som følger med. Løsningen med halvtykke klienter gjør at
7668 prosessering skjer lokalt med alltid ferske maskiner.
</p>
7670 <p>Skolelinux kan fungere godt på gammelt utstyr, men det er klart at
7671 utstyr også blir for gammelt selv for Skolelinux. I forbindelese med
7672 at vi nylig fikk nye servere og ny installasjon kastet jeg ut ca
60
7673 klienter som fortsatt var i drift etter at de var kjøpt godt brukt i
7674 2004. Noe var rundt
15 år gammelt, men var fortsatt i bruk. Noen
7675 klaget på at det nå gikk veldig tregt på en del pedagogiske nettsider
7676 med flash o.l. Det er fullt forståelig.
</p>
7678 <p>Jeg fikk nylig et spørsmål fra ungdomsskolens rektor om jeg kunne
7679 legge inn
<a href=
"http://freemind.sourceforge.net/">FreeMind
</a>, et
7680 tankekartprogram , på skolens elev-Windowsmaskiner. Lærerne hadde
7681 vært på kurs og ville ta dette i bruk. Skolen har ca halvparten av
7682 elevmaskinene på bærbare Windowsmaskiner. Da kunne jeg fortelle at
7683 dette programmet allerede lå inne på den nye Skolelinuxløsningen
7684 som nettopp var satt i drift, klart til bruk.
</p>
7686 <p>Vi har de bærbare maskinene på ungdomsskolen i domene med
7687 Skolelinux. Dette fungerer også meget bra nå. Elevene får opp en
7688 midlertidig windowsprofil når de logger på. Denne profilen slettes
7689 etter at de logger av, noe som medfører rene profiler hver gang de
7690 starter opp en maskin. De må lagre i sin Skolelinprofil, noe som
7691 medfører at de får tak i sine filer uavhengig av om de starter en
7692 Windowsmaskin eller en Skolelinuxklient. Det er mye mindre trafikk i
7693 det trådløse nettet etter at ikke hele profiler blir lastet opp til de
7694 enkelte Windowsmaskinene og tilbake når man avslutter. Jeg vet ikke om
7695 dette er standardoppsett i Skolelinux, men slik er vårt oppsett
7698 <p>Vi har i flere år satt opp vår løsning slik at skriverkøer slettes
7699 og skrivere startes hver natt. Hyggelig å høre at dette nå skal bli
7700 en standard i Skolelinuxløsningen. Dette har vært en god hjelp for
7703 <p>Elevene er lite opptatt av om de jobber på en Skolelinux eller en
7704 Windowsmaskin bare de har de programmene de trenger og at det virker
7705 når det skal brukes. Vi kjører mest mulig de samme programmene på
7706 Windows som i Skolelinux, som f.eks Audacity og LibreOffice.
</p>
7708 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
7710 <p>Lærere bruker hos oss Windows. Dette fordi de da selv har mer
7711 kontroll over sin maskin, kan bruke den overalt, og kan legge inn
7712 programmer selv når de trenger noe i forhold til kurs o.l de er
7713 på. Jeg tror lærernes selvstendighet her gjør dem tryggere på IKT-bruk
7714 generelt. Det at de av og til får opp advarsler og lignende gjør også
7715 at de må tenke igjennom og spørre om ting rundt datasikkerhet.
</p>
7717 <p>Det er en del programmer vi bruker som ikke finnes for Linux. Mest
7718 brukt er nok Photostory3 som brukes i mange sammenhenger, særlig på
7719 ungdomsskolen, bl.a. til å lage herbarier (plantesamling) . Dette
7720 finnes gratis for Windows, men er ikke fri programvare. Vi er opptatt
7721 av at programmer elevene bruker på skolen også kan brukes gratis
7722 hjemme. Det er også en del programmer som brukes til spesielle elever
7723 som bare går i Windows. Det er viktig med fokus på funksjoner og ikke
7724 på hvilket OS man bruker.
</p>
7726 <p>For oss er det kombinasjonen mellom Skolelinux og Windows som gir
7727 oss en god og hel løsning. Skolelinux er best der de er gode.
</p>
7729 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
7731 <p>Selv er det LibreOffice jeg bruker til daglig. Jeg bruker selv en
7732 Windowsmaskin. Jeg har benyttet en del fri programvare i forbindelse
7733 med sjekking av trafikk i nettverk, slik som Wireshark, men dette er
7734 jo ikke aktuelt for skolene. Jeg er generelt glad i programmer som
7735 fungerer på både Linux og Windows og gjerne MAC.
</p>
7737 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
7738 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
7740 <p>Det er viktig at det benyttes programmer som elevene også kan ta i
7741 bruk hjemme. Det skal da være enkelt, lovlig og gratis for
7742 elevene. Da er jeg ikke lenger veldig opptatt av om det kalles "fri
7743 programvare". For skolene tror jeg "gratis" og "funksjonelt" er bedre
7744 begreper enn "fri" i forhold til programmer. De fleste skiller nok
7745 ikke mellom "fri" og "gratis". Det er nå svært mange elever som
7746 benytter OpenOffice eller LibreOffice som sin primære kontorpakke
7753 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
7758 <div class=
"padding"></div>
7762 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Changing_the_default_Iceweasel_start_page_in_Debian_Edu_Squeeze.html">Changing the default Iceweasel start page in Debian Edu/Squeeze
</a>
7768 <p>In the Squeeze version of
7769 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a> soon
7770 to be released, users of the system will get their default browser
7771 start page set from LDAP, allowing the system administrator to point
7772 all users to the school web page by updating one setting in LDAP. In
7773 addition to setting the default start page when a machine boots, users
7774 are shown the same page as a welcome page when they log in for the
7777 <p>The LDAP object dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no have an attribute
7778 labeledURI with "http://www/ LDAP for Debian Edu/Skolelinux" as the
7779 default content. By changing this value to another URL, all users get
7780 to see the page behind this new URL.
</p>
7782 <p>An easy way to update it is by using the ldapvi tool. It can be
7783 called as "
<tt>ldapvi -ZD '(cn=admin)'
</tt>' to update LDAP with the
7786 <p>We have written the code to adjust the default start page and show
7787 the welcome page, and I wonder if there is an easier way to do this
7788 from within Iceweasel instead.
</p>
7794 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web
</a>.
7799 <div class=
"padding"></div>
7803 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Second_beta_version_of_Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Squeeze.html">Second beta version of Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Squeeze
</a>
7809 <p>I am happy to announce that today we managed to wrap up and publish
7810 the second beta version of
7811 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a>. If
7812 you want to test a LDAP backed Kerberos server with out of the box PXE
7813 configuration for running diskless machines and installing new
7814 machines, check it out. If you need a software solution for your
7815 school, check it out too. The full announcement is
7816 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/2012/01/msg00000.html">available
</a>
7817 on the project announcement list.
</p>
7823 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
7828 <div class=
"padding"></div>
7832 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Fixing_an_hanging_debian_installer_for_Debian_Edu.html">Fixing an hanging debian installer for Debian Edu
</a>
7838 <p>During christmas, I have been working getting the next version of
7839 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu / Skolelinux
</a> ready
7840 for release. The initial problem I looked at was particularly
7843 <P>The installer would hang at the end when it was doing it
7844 post-installation configuration, and whatevery I did to try to find
7845 the cause and fix it always worked while I tested it, but never when I
7846 integrated it into the installer and ran the installation from
7847 scratch. I would try to restart processes, close file descriptors,
7848 remove or create files, and the installer would always unblock and
7849 wrap up its tasks.
</p>
7851 <p>Eventually the cause was found. The kernel was simply running out
7852 of entropy, causing the Kerberos setup to hang waiting for more.
7853 Pressing keys was adding entropy to the kernel, and thus all my tries
7854 to fix the problem worked not because what I was typing to fix it, but
7855 because I was typing.
</P>
7857 <p>The fix I implemented was to add a background process looking at
7858 the level of entropy in the kernel (by checking
7859 /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail), and if it was too small, the
7860 installer will flush the kernel file buffers and do 'find /' to
7861 generate some disk IO. Disk IO generate entropy in the kernel, and is
7862 one of the few things that can be initated from within the system to
7863 generate entropy.
</p>
7866 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze/Installation">beta1
7867 of the Debian Edu/Squeeze
</a> version, and we
7868 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu">welcome more testers and
7869 developers
</a>. We plan to release beta2 this weekend.
</p>
7875 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
7880 <div class=
"padding"></div>
7884 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Peter_Hansteen.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Peter Hansteen
</a>
7890 <p>Etter en lang pause er det klart for neste mann ut i min serie med
7892 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a>-relaterte personer.
7894 Denne gangen har jeg besøk av et avtroppende styremedlem i
7895 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">FRISK
</a>, og en mann
7896 som har vært aktiv i Linux-miljøet i Bergen siden
90-tallet.
</p>
7898 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
7900 <p>Jeg heter Peter Hansteen, og jobber til daglig som seniorkonsulent
7901 i EDB ErgoGroup i Bergen. I praksis betyr det systemadministrasjon på
7902 Unix (primært Solaris, men en viss komponent av Linux). Men Solaris
7903 er for meg et relativt nytt bekjentskap, hovedplattformen min har
7904 generelt vært OpenBSD og til dels FreeBSD.
</p>
7906 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
7908 <p>Jeg husker ikke helt alle detaljene mer ;) - men jeg tror det var
7909 gjennom news-gruppen no.it.os.unix.linux.diverse, efn-listen og
7910 etterhvert også BLUG-miljøet her i Bergen. Vi hadde et par
7911 Skolelinux-sentrerte BLUG-møter for noen år siden, og det har vært et
7912 par Skolelinux-utviklersamlinger her.
</p>
7914 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
7916 <p>Jeg bruker dessverre ikke Skolelinux daglig. Men slik jeg kjenner
7917 prosjektet har det vært i stand til å ta opp i seg det beste av fri
7918 programvare i mange kategorier, så fra et sysadmin-perspektiv ser det
7919 ut som en svært behagelig sak. For brukerne er det vel både en fordel
7920 og en ulempe at det ikke er Windows. Men vi håper at fordelene med et
7921 fritt system etterhvert vil bli åpenbare for både elever, lærekrefter
7924 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
7926 <p>Vel, ulempen er vel først og fremst at andre aktører med mer
7927 kapitalmuskel har klart å etablere seg som det både lærere og foreldre
7928 føler seg trygge på, selv om det etter mitt hode ikke er noen grunn
7929 til å være spesielt trygg på de kommersielle alternativene.
</p>
7931 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
7933 <p>Når jeg får bestemme helt selv, bruker jeg kun fri programvare. Da
7934 helst med vekt på ting som kjører greit på OpenBSD. Hjemme er det
7935 OpenBSD, Ubuntu eller FreeBSD vi bruker. På skrivebordet er det en
7936 avveining mellom Gnome, KDE eller hva-det-nå-heter som er
7937 standardvalget i Ubuntu, ellers er det de kjente tingene som
7938 LibreOffice, Emacs, mplayer. På server er det selvfølgelig Apache,
7939 for overvåking både OpenNMS og Nagios (det bare ble sånn, og
7940 forskjellige siter). Jeg skriver til tider om slikt jeg holder på med
7942 <a href=
"http://bsdly.blogspot.com">http://bsdly.blogspot.com
</a>.
</p>
7944 <p>Men vi må nevne at selv vi har en Microsoft-ting som vi slår på når
7945 vi av en eller annen grunn må. Det betyr igjen vanligvis når en
7946 mobiltelefon eller en annen lukket elektronisk dings krever kontakt
7947 via en slik for å få oppdateringene sine.
</p>
7949 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
7950 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
7952 <p>Hadde vi hatt det rette svaret på det spørsmålet, så hadde vi
7953 gjerne hatt Skolelinux som førstevalg på alle skoler ;)
</p>
7955 <p>Men jeg tror vi må legge vekt på flere forskjellige ting. En helt
7956 sentral sak er å fokusere på fri programvare og åpne standarder som de
7957 demokratiske verdiene de faktisk er. Det har kanskje kommet litt for
7958 mye i bakgrunnen i forhold til strevet etter å lage det mest mulig
7959 'brukervennlige' systemet. Det er en tung vei å gå, så det er
7960 forståelig at freenix-aktivister heller velger å skrive kode og annet
7961 som er mer lystbetont. Mer praktisk tror jeg vi må gjøre i alle fall
7962 to ting: For det første sørge for å fortsette med å levere det best
7963 mulige frie produktet, slik at det er lett å både komme i gang og
7964 holde systemene i daglig drift, og for det andre
2) spore opp mulige
7965 aktivister der de finnes, via lokale brukergrupper, sosiale medier
7966 eller annet og sørge for at de fortsetter å være aktive. Mer og
7967 mindre uformelle treff kan være nyttig i tillegg til de mer
7968 organiserte møtene med foredrag, konferanser og utviklersamlinger.
</p>
7974 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
7979 <div class=
"padding"></div>
7983 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Frode_Jemtland.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Frode Jemtland
</a>
7989 <p>Neste mann ut i min serie med intervjuer av Skolelinux-relaterte
7990 personer er en tidligere styreleder i
7991 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">FRISK
</a> som var med
7993 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a>-prosjektet.
</p>
7995 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
7997 <p>Mitt navn er Frode Jemtland, og jeg jobber i Hedmark IKT, som er et
7998 driftsselskap for Grue, Hamar, Kongsvinger, Løten, Nord-Odal og Stange
7999 kommuner. Her er jeg leder for avdelingen Løsninger og Arkitektur. Vi
8000 har i hovedansvar for servere, infrastruktur og løsninger som
8003 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
8005 <p>Jobbet i IBM fra
2000, og da spesielt med Linux. Dette var da et av
8006 de mest tydelige linux prosjektene i Norge, og her ønsket jeg å
8007 bidra. Var aktivt med i prosjektet i
4-
5 år.
</p>
8009 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8011 <p>Fordelene slik jeg ser det er den sentraliserte driftmodellen, og
8012 alle de vel gjennomtenkte løsningene som er inkludert i denne
8013 løsningen. Samtidig er det basert på en stabil, og godt kjent
8014 plattform. Dette vil si at man har en løsning som skal være mye
8015 tilgjengelig, og hvor det er relativt enkelt å få tak i personer som
8016 kan mye om den grunnleggende plattformen.
</p>
8018 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8020 <p>De største utfordringene med en løsningen er at den er intensiv på f.eks
8021 nettverk. I seg selv ikke et problem for en enkelt skole, men skal løsningen
8022 kjøres i større skala, med sentraliserte servere, så gir dette noen
8025 <p>Utifra hva jeg har sett på større installasjoner så er det ikke så
8026 enkelt å skjønne, hva som bør gjøres for at den skal skaleres opp, og
8027 da ta godt vare på alle sider av dette, ikke bare mer server å fordele
8028 last/trykk, men hvordan også beholde robustheten og fleksibiliteten i
8031 <p>En annen utfordring er at stadig flere produkter som skal brukes i
8032 skoleløsningen ikke er laget til å kunne brukes i en
8033 skolelinuxløsning. Det blir derfor fort mye skreddersøm i de
8034 forskjellige installasjonene, for å få diverse pedagogiske programmer,
8035 webløsninger, smartboards, m.m. til å fungere. Man er også en for
8036 liten kundebase til at leverandørene ønsker å gjøre noe med
8037 utfordringen. Problemet overlates til oss.
</p>
8039 <p>Det er også en kontinuerlig utfordring rundt problemet med å holde
8040 programvare på stabile versjoner, kontra å få ny funksjonalitet. Dette
8041 er jo en konflikt mellom oss som ønsker å drifte en stabil, og
8042 kostnadseffektiv løsning, mot sluttbrukerne som ønsker seg funksjoner
8043 det er vant med fra andre løsninger, eller som de må ha for at et
8044 eller annet nytt produkt skal fungere i løsningen. Dette er en
8045 utfordring også for andre plattformer.
</p>
8047 <p>En siste utfordring som ikke har noe med løsningen å gjøre, men med
8048 det omkringliggende miljøet denne skal kjøre i, er at de enhetene som
8049 skal drifte dataløsninger for kommuner og fylkeskommuner begynner å
8050 profesjonaliseres, og er da avhengig av å ha standard løsninger for å
8051 drifte store brukermasser. MS er selvsagt klar over dette, og har jo
8052 nå flere områder de begynner å bli veldig dominerende på. Den største,
8053 og mest problematiske er katalogtjenesten. Man får snart ikke tak i
8054 større løsninger som ikke krever en AD. Når man da har store enheter
8055 som drifter både kommunalt ansatte og skoler, så vil det være et
8056 stordriftargument å standardisere på en katalog tjeneste, og da har
8057 man ikke noe valg. Her er alle slike driftsenheter for små til å få
8058 gjort om på dette. Her burde konkurransemyndighetene kommet på
8059 banen. Men konkurransetilsynet i USA griper sjeldent (og ikke før det
8060 har gått veldig lang tid) inn i monopolsituasjoner så lenge
8061 monopolisten er et amerikansk firma, så da har vel ikke andre
8062 myndigheter så mye de skulle ha sagt....
</p>
8064 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
8066 <p>Privat kjører jeg Debian på alle mine datamaskiner. Det gjør jeg
8067 også på min jobbmaskin. Vi har også
15-
20 linux servere av typene
8068 SuSE, Debian, Redhat, CentOS m.m. Jeg bruker derfor mye fri
8069 programvare. Av enkelt programmer kan sikkert masse nevnes. Hvis vi
8070 skal begrense oss til daglig, så må jeg si: OpenOffice, Firefox,
8071 Kontact, Kopete, Amarok,
8072 <a href=
"http://gramps-project.org/">Gramps
</a>, Kate, ssh, bash,
8073 rsync, backuppc m.m.
</p>
8075 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
8076 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
8078 <p>Det er et godt spørsmål, som jeg har lurt på selv.
</p>
8080 <p>Argumentene som ofte har vært brukt om at ting koster mindre holder
8081 ikke mål når man ser på hva som faktisk koster penger. Det er de
8082 ansatte som er en kostnadsdriver. Det vil si at hvis man har et system
8083 som den ansatte kan, så vil en kostnad på dette systemet kunne
8084 forsvares ganske mye ved at den ansatte gjør dette raskere og
8085 effektivt. Også uten å måtte eventuelt leie inn folk.
</p>
8087 <p>Jeg syns det er viktigere å fokusere på prinsippet med å velge fri
8088 programvare, men det er også et felt hvor man fort møter lite
8089 forståelse blant de ansatte i skolen.
</p>
8091 <p>Her må nok strategien fortsette å være at de sentrale myndighetene
8092 må sende tydelige signaler for hva de ønsker at offentlige enheter
8093 skal gjøre. Det var mye positivt på gang ang. dette for et par år
8094 siden. Både med eNorge og eKommune planene, men dette syns jeg har
8095 stoppet opp. En del av dette kan jo kanskje være usikkerheten som
8096 etter hvert har blitt, når man har sett kompleksiteten i de
8097 prosjektene som har blitt igangsatt. Det har også blitt noe usikkerhet
8098 i markedet ref. Sun, Oracle, Novell, Microsoft m.m. Samtidig har jo
8099 også de proprietære programleverandørene sørget for å endre sine
8100 lisenser slik at man uansett ikke slipper unna kostnaden til deres
8101 produkter, selv om man skulle velge alternativer. Da er det økonomiske
8102 argumentet, som jeg nevnte tidligere, spilt ganske godt ut over
8109 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
8114 <div class=
"padding"></div>
8118 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Marius_Kotsbak.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Marius Kotsbak
</a>
8124 <p>Neste mann ut er Marius Kotsbak, styremedlem i
8125 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">FRISK
</a> og mangeårig
8127 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a>-prosjektet.
</p>
8129 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
8131 <p>Jeg er en systemutvikler/kybernetiker og jobber med dette til
8132 daglig. På fritiden tester jeg ut/bruker mye fri programvare, og
8133 bidrar med testing og utvikling når jeg ser stort nok behov for det og
8134 jeg har noe å bidra med.
</p>
8136 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
8138 <p>Hmm, det er lenge siden, så det er nesten så jeg ikke husker. Jeg
8139 hadde vel hørt om prosjektet i media før en gjeng i Trondheim startet
8140 opp SPIST, Skolelinux-prosjektet i Sør-Trøndelag, hvor vi hjalp noen
8141 skoler i nærområdet med å installere Skolelinux og finne brukt
8142 IT-utstyr til disse. Det var moro å gjøre noe praktisk for å spre
8143 Skolelinux, og å se hvor fort gjort det var å sette opp utrangerte
8144 klientmaskiner og få disse opp som tynnklienter på helt nye datasaler
8145 på skolene, kun med kostnaden til servere.
</p>
8147 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8149 <p>Det er et system spesielt skreddersydd for drift av et stort antall
8150 klienter mot servere, og da spesielt i henhold til skolers behov. Det
8151 er enkelt og billig å installere og drifte, og det trenger ikke ny
8152 maskinvare for god ytelse.
</p>
8154 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8156 <p>Hardwarestøtten kunne vært bedre og i enda større grad
8157 installerbart rett ut av boksen. Distribusjonen har til tider hatt
8158 litt gammel programvare pga. at den følger Debian sine utgivelser.
8159 Kanskje man skulle vurdert en versjon basert på Ubuntu eller andre
8160 distribusjoner i tillegg?
</p>
8162 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
8164 <p>Oi, det er ikke lite. Her er det jeg kommer på i farta. Jeg bruker
8165 Linux og Ubuntu, og på Ubuntu programene Firefox, Thunderbird,
8166 Chromium, Pidgin, Digikam, OpenOffice, Wireshark, git og irssi.
8167 Telefonen min er en Android, og der bruker jeg programmene K-
9 Mail,
8168 OI Shopping list, Shuffle, ZXing, OI Notepad og ADW Desktop. På jobb
8169 bruker jeg JBoss, Eclipse, uCLinux for Blackfin, RCF-CPP, Qt, Maven,
8170 og boost-bibliotekene for C++.
</p>
8172 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
8173 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
8175 <p>En bør fokusere på totalkostnader inkludert driftsbehov,
8176 fleksibilitet, åpenhet og ikke låsing til en leverandør framfor sparte
8177 lisenskostnader, samt programvarens kvalitet og fortrinn, og at den
8178 fritt kan brukes på et ubegrenset antall PC-er, også hjemme hos
8179 elevene. En bør også forbedre den fri programvaren ved testing,
8180 bugrapportering og kodebidrag om man kan, og ikke anbefale programvare
8181 uten at man har forsikret seg at den har tilstrekkelig kvalitet,
8182 ellers kan man lett oppnå det motsatte. Tror en bør selge inn
8183 konseptet til fylkes-/statsnivå, kanskje med bidrag til
8184 utviklingsarbeid fra disse som alle landets skoler kan få glede
8191 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
8196 <div class=
"padding"></div>
8200 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Odin_Hetland_N_sen.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Odin Hetland Nøsen
</a>
8206 <p>Mine bloggposter om Linux i skolene i Norge førte til at inspektør
8207 og ildsjel på Harestad skole tok kontakt og fortalte at de bruker
8208 Linux på sin skole, og lurte på om de kunne bidra til å gjøre
8209 fordelene kjent. Riktig nok bruker de ikke
8210 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a> på denne skolen,
8211 men jeg synes dette er en god anledning til å gjøre flere fasetter
8212 rundt Linux-økosystemet kjent, og tok et lite intervju.
</p>
8214 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
8216 <p>Mitt navn er Odin Hetland Nøsen og er en
70-modell. Jeg er bosatt i
8217 Stavanger og jobber nå på
9. året som undervisninginspektør på
8218 Harestad skole i Randaberg kommune (nabokommune til Stavanger).
</p>
8220 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
8222 <p>I
2002 begynte daværende IKT-ansvarlige og jeg et arbeid på skolen
8223 med å gå over fra Win98 til... noe annet. Vi testet en rekke
8224 forskjellige løsninger, deriblant Skolelinux, men endte opp med
8225 RedHat. Skolelinux var den gang ikke modent for det vi ville ha. Jeg
8226 har siden fulgt jevnlig med på hva skolelinux holder på med, men har
8227 hele tiden vært bedre fornøyd med vår egen "standardiserte" løsning på
8228 RedHat/CentOS og Fedora. Vi snuser for tiden på Ubuntu som løsning på
8231 <p>I dag har vi på skolen vår en større linux-løsning med
400 klienter
8232 som kjører en blanding av LTSP (tynnklient) og DRBL (tykk klient uten
8233 harddisk) med en masse tjenere på serverrommet. Vi drifter hele
8234 sulamitten selv med webtjener, eposttjener, webmail, filtjenere,
8235 virtuelle tjenere osv. Og IT-ansvarlig har en
80% stilling som
8236 IT-ansvarlig - og så er han KoH-lærer i de resterende
20% :-)
</p>
8238 <p>Du kan få en ide om hva vi holder på med om du går inn på
8239 <a href=
"http://www.gnuskole.no/">http://www.gnuskole.no/
</a>.
</p>
8241 <p>For å ta brodden av frykten for at ildsjeler gjør skolen sårbar om
8242 ildsjelene falle fra, har jeg forsikret kommunen og skolesjefen i
8243 Randaberg om at det finnes godt kommersielle tjenester vi kan benytte
8244 oss av - om det skulle bli nødvendig. Vi er tre stykker i kommunen som
8245 nå har
<strong>god
</strong> linux-kompetanse ift. å drifte et større
8246 system. IT-avdelingen i kommunen vil ikke ta på oss med ildtang -
8247 selv om vi nok har større IT-kompetanse mot linux enn det de selv har
8248 mot windows (de kjøper en
<strong>masse
</strong> konsulenttjenester
8251 <p>I kvantitet er Harestad og Grødem skole tilsammen et større
8252 IT-system enn resten av Randaberg kommune + Kvitsøy og Rennesøy, som
8253 kommunen også har driftsansvar for. Vi har som sagt rundt
800
8254 maskiner, mens kommunen med sitt driftsansvar har ansvar for rundt
500
8255 maskiner. Det er selvfølgelig litt forskjell i hvor kritiske
8256 tjenestene våre er, men det gir allikevel et litt rart bilde når
8257 IT-avdelingen overhode ikke er interessert i å snakke med oss om
8258 hvordan vi gjør ting :-)
</p>
8260 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8262 <p>Fra linux-perspektivet (ikke bare Skolelinux) er det en fordel av
8263 systemet er basert på fri programvare - og dermed fritt i ordets mange
8264 betydninger. Det er alt vi trenger: stabilt, relativt enkelt å drifte
8265 (tross alt - et større windowssystem er ikke enkelt å holde live det
8266 heller), rimelig i innkjøp og drift, og sist, men ikke minst, det er
8267 moderne for sluttbruker! Linux, i sine mange varianter,
8268 <strong>ser
</strong> nytt ut, fordi det hele tiden blir
8269 oppdatert. Derfor lever systemet opp til hvordan elever forventer at
8270 et moderne GUI skal være (i motsetning til WinXP :-).
</p>
8272 <p>Vi var veldig pragmatiske da vi begynte med linux i skolen. Det var
8273 billig, det fungerte og kunne bruke alle de gamle windows-maskinene
8274 som "nye" tynne klienter. I dag er vi mer bevisste fri
8275 programvare-tilhengere. Vi har oppdaget hva det er - og vi liker
8278 <p>En av de
<strong>store
</strong> fordelene med fri programvare er at
8279 vi kan installere tjenester vi ønsker å tilby brukerne våre - uten å
8280 måtte tenke på om vi har råd til lisensene (fordi det er ingen). Alt
8281 vi setter i produksjon er ut i fra brukernes behov og vår kapasitet
8282 til å drifte dem. Vi skreddersyr tjenestene etter behovet og dermed
8283 trenger vi ikke ende opp med å kjøpe en pakke der vi egentlig bare var
8284 interessert i en liten del av den.
</p>
8286 <p>Bruk av linux frigjør ikke økonomiske midler, fordi midlene til IKT
8287 i skole er for få i utgangspunktet - men vi får så
8288 <strong>mye
</strong> mer igjen for dem når vi bruker en linux-løsning
8289 fremfor en windows-løsning. I praksis ser vi at vi måtte ut med det
8290 dobbelte på budsjettet vårt om vi skulle hatt en tilsvarende
8291 windows-løsning, som det vi i dag drifter med linux.
</p>
8293 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8295 <p>Ikke all pedagogisk programvare er tilgjengelig. Det er en del
8296 programvare i skolen som er laget med utviklerverktøy som bare virker
8297 i windows, f.eks. Drillpro, LingDys/LingWrite. Det er også
8298 "programmer" som bare virker om du har tilgang til Microsoft Office,
8299 f.eks. AskiRaski.
</p>
8301 <p>Vi sliter også litt med at video-codecer ikke alltid er like lett å
8302 få opp å gå på klientene. Det er alltid en eller annen videosnutt fra
8303 nrk.no som ikke er så samarbeidsvillig, uansett mediaplayer.
</p>
8305 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
8307 <p>Alt :-) På skolen bruker vi det som finnes og som er nyttig. Det vi
8308 bruker mest er Firefox (jobber med Chrome, fordi det er
8309 <strong>mye
</strong> raskere med Flash enn Firefox), OpenOffice (skal
8310 over til LibreOffice), GIMP osv. Standardpakken av
8311 sluttbrukerprogrammer.
</p>
8313 <p>På tjenernivå bruker vi OpenWebMail (skal over til Zimbra), Exim
8316 <p>Personlig bruker jeg de fleste programmer over flere plattformer,
8317 men jeg har lagt meg til en vane å prioritere bruken av fri
8318 programvare også i Windows
7 og OSX.
</p>
8320 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
8321 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
8323 <p>Jeg er langt i fra sikker. For det første handler det mye om at
8324 IKT-avdelingen i kommunen ofte er de som styrer hva som er IKT på
8325 skolene - og de liker å bruke avtalene med Microsoft, som de garantert
8326 har fra før. Dessuten - Select
6-avtalen til skolene gjør Microsoft
8329 <p>Vi la vekt på effektiv drift av systemet - og at vi kunne øke
8330 antall maskiner uten å måtte øke budsjett for utstyr eller personell
8331 særlig mye, enn om vi hadde gått for en Microsoft-løsning. I praksis
8332 ser vi at en ren linux-installasjon driftes til halve prisen av en
8333 Microsoft-løsning.
</p>
8335 <p>Vi har i praksis også sett at det lærerne (og elevene) liker er at
8336 vi tilbyr
<strong>veldig
</strong> mange tjenester som ikke er så
8337 vanlige i en Microsoft-løsning. Det er ikke så vanlig at
8338 <strong>elevene
</strong> også har epost, hjemmekontor osv. Det har vi
8339 også brukt som et vellykket argument mot Microsoft.
</p>
8341 <p>Den beste måten er selvfølgelig at noen bare bestemmer
8342 det. Problemet er å få dem som har makt til å bestemme det til faktisk
8349 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
8354 <div class=
"padding"></div>
8358 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Astri_Sletteng.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Astri Sletteng
</a>
8364 <p>En dame som har bidratt lenge til fri programvare i skoleverket og
8365 i foreningen som organiserer skolelinux-utviklersamlinger,
8366 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">FRISK
</a>, er neste
8367 intervjuoffer. Det er en glede å her presentere en lærer fra Håkvik.
</p>
8369 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
8371 <p>Jeg heter Astri Sletteng. Jeg er lærer og IKT veileder ved Håkvik
8372 skole i Narvik kommune. Min bakgrunn når det gjelder IKT: Av formell
8373 utdannelse har jeg lærerutdanning, Master i skoleledelse og IKT for
8374 lærere. Har jobba som IKT veileder siden
2002.
</p>
8376 <p>Det viktigste for meg som IKT veileder er å få fundamentert den
8377 5. basisferdigheten, digital kompetanse ved skolen min på en god måte
8378 slik at hele skolesamfunnet tar i bruk IKT i alle fag. Dette arbeidet
8379 gjøres i nært samarbeid med skolens ledelse.
</p>
8381 <p>Min viktigste jobb som IKT veileder er å være motivator og pådriver
8382 i IKT arbeidet ved skolen.
</p>
8384 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
8386 <p>Jobber i en kommune hvor vi satser på Fri programvare. I
2004 ble
8387 det gjort et politisk vedtak om at vi skulle innføre Skolelinux ved
8388 alle skolene i kommunen. Jeg har dermed en god del erfaring med
8389 Skolelinux, samt annen fri programvare som Open Office, Joomla, Moodle
8392 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8394 <p>Siden vi jobber med åpen kildekode kan vi få programmene og
8395 produktene tilpasset vår bruk. Det er jo heller ikke en ulempe at
8396 skolen kommer bedre ut økonomisk, men først og fremst er det viktig
8397 for oss at vi har digitale systemer som gjør at vi kan følge
8398 læreplanen i alle fag. Det syns jeg at vi kan gjøre gjennom
8401 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8403 <p>Skolen er avhengige av å ha folk på IT avdelinga i kommunen som kan
8404 drive support, og være tilgjengelige når vi trenger hjelp. Det er en
8405 ulempe at ikke alle på denne avdelingen nødvendigvis er god på
8408 <p>Vi har også noen utfordringer når det kommer til spesielle
8409 programmer som enkelte elever er avhengige av ? og som ikke er
8410 plattform uavhengige. Her har vi i Friprog-verden, men også
8411 departement en jobb å gjøre.
</p>
8413 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
8415 <p>Skolen vår bruker Skolelinux, Open Office, Iceweazel (Mozilla),
8416 VLC, Tux paint, Scribus, FreeMind, GIMP, digiKam, Ksnapshot, GeoGebra,
8417 Moodle (innført på alle klassetrinn + som et administrativt verktøy)
8418 og Joomla som hjemmeside.
<p>
8420 <p>Det er de jeg kommer på i farten. I tillegg har vi Smartboard
8421 installert på server, men det regnes vel ikke som fri programvare?
</p>
8423 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
8424 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
8426 <p>Først og fremst trenger skolen oppetider på sine datasystemer. Syns
8427 også at det at vi kan få tilpasset plattform og systemer til vår bruk
8428 er en god strategi å bruke.
</p>
8434 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
8439 <div class=
"padding"></div>
8443 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Rub_n_Romero_y_Cordero.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Rubén Romero y Cordero
</a>
8449 <p>Styret i foreningen som organiserer skolelinux-utviklersamlinger,
8450 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">FRISK
</a>, er fullt av
8451 flinke folk. Denne gangen har jeg fått et ferskt styremedlem som
8452 kommer fra Ubuntu-miljøet i tale.
</p>
8454 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
8456 <p>Rubén Romero y Cordero,
81-modell, deltidspappa (
50%) for en jente
8457 på
6 år. Jobber i Oslo som Global Sales Executive hos Varnish Software
8458 og til daglig har jeg kontakt med kunder fra hele verden. Min
8459 forkjærlighet for fri programvare har gjort at jeg har nå flere års
8460 erfaring med salg av slike løsninger (bl.a. fra Redpill Linpro og
8461 Freecode) og mye innsikt og kunnskap om det globale IT-markedet.
8462 Ellers er jeg involvert i flere prosjekter bl.a. er jeg Ubuntu
8463 Community medlem, kontaktpersonen for Ubuntu Norge og driveren av
8464 SpreadUbuntu marketing prosjektet og nå fersk styremedlem i FRISK. Jeg
8465 har brukt GNU/Linux siden
1997.
</p>
8467 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
8469 <p>Som Debian bruker siden slutten av
90-tallet var det uunngåelig å
8470 ikke komme bort i Skolelinux. Dette var vel i slutten av
2001 når jeg
8471 var student ved UiO. Flere år senere fikk jeg lastet og testet Venus
8472 (Skolelinux
1.0) på release dagen.
</p>
8474 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8476 <p>Fri programvare bygges sten for sten i det åpne, slik at koden og
8477 prosessen den lages på kan gjennomskues av andre enn de som har laget
8478 det. Det er et vitenskapelig og gjennomsiktig måte å lage programvare
8481 <p>Skoler i vårt samfunn skal være steder hvor vitenskapelig kunnskap
8482 deles til alle. I dag har vi ikke et vitenskapelig tilnærming til
8483 hvordan programvaren som brukes på skolen lages. Skolelinux bringer
8484 inn at slik tilnærming i skoleverkets klasserom, siden
8485 operativsystemet er en åpent platform som gir skolene muligheten til å
8486 dra nytte av programvare som er laget av tusenvis av mennesker verden
8487 rundt og som gir elevene så vel som lærerne muligheten til å bruke,
8488 dele, forandre og forbedre OSet sitt uten begrensninger. I den
8489 forbindelsen representerer Skolelinux også konkrete resultater utfra
8490 samhandling på tvers av grenser.
</p>
8492 <p>Når det gjelder de tekniske fordelene av Skolelinux er jeg sikker
8493 på at andre enn meg har allerede beskrevet disse bedre enn det jeg
8494 kan. Men jeg kan likevel tilføye noe: Skolelinux som sådan er en
8495 community-drevet operativsystemplatform. Som i ethvert
8496 community-prosjekt har alle Skolelinux brukere muligheten til å
8497 påvirke retning av prosjektet og resultatet som gjenspeiles i
8498 programvaren. Dette kommer sjeldent frem og jeg mener at det er noe
8499 som burde fokuseres mer på.
</p>
8501 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8503 <p>De største ulempene er:
</p>
8506 <li>Mangel på kompetanse
</li>
8507 <li>Mangel av administrative verktøy som kunne hjelpe lokale IT
8508 avdelinger å bruke Skolelinux til mer enn bare en tjener for
8509 terminalklienter. Et eksempel: Zentyal sin web-dashboard.
</li>
8512 <p>Bedre og mer intuitive administrative verktøy kunne løst deler av
8513 problemet, men det er unektelig at ved bruk av Skolelinux må
8514 IT-personalet vite hva de gjør for å få ting gjort riktig, eller i det
8515 hele tatt. Med andre platformer er kompetansen enklere tilgjengelig og
8516 løsningene kan fungere på en tilfredstillende, om ikke riktig
8519 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
8521 <p>Har brukt GNU/Linux utelukkende sommitt skrivebord OS siden
2000. I
8522 dag bruker jeg Ubuntu og gjør det meste med friprogramvare verktøyene
8523 som er tilgjengelige der. Med over
20.000 programmer å velge mellom er
8524 dette mer enn nok for de fleste brukerne.
</p>
8526 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
8527 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
8529 <p>Opplysning og pragmatikk. Vi prøver å løse problemer med bruk av
8530 programvare. De fleste utfordringene skolene har på IKT-siden kan
8531 løses ved hjelp av friprogramvareverktøy i dag. Det som trenges er
8532 opplysning, kunnskap og kompetanse.
</p>
8538 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
8543 <div class=
"padding"></div>
8547 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Morten_Amundsen.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Morten Amundsen
</a>
8553 <p>Denne gangen er det Tromsøkontoret til Friprog-senteret, og nyvalgt
8554 styremedlem i
<a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">foreningen
8555 FRISK
</a> jeg har fått i tale i min intervjuserie med
8556 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a>-folk.
</p>
8558 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
8560 <p>Jeg heter Morten Amundsen og jobber i
8561 <a href=
"http://www.friprog.no/">Friprog.no
</a>, men er for tiden leid
8562 ut til
<a href=
"http://www.bredbandsfylket.no/">Bredbåndsfylket
8563 Troms
</a> der jeg jobber med ett prosjekt som heter
8564 "
<a href=
"http://www.bredbandsfylket.no/skolefjoela.157417.no.html">Skolefjøla
</a>"
8565 Vi ser på en åpen løsning som integrerer eksisterende lukkete
8566 løsninger sammen med fri programvare. Målet er å gi elever og lærere
8567 en plattform som de kan tilpasse utfra behov.</p>
8569 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?</strong></p>
8571 <p>Skolelinux har jeg møtt ved flere anledninger opp gjennom åra, både gjennom
8572 entusiastiske skolelinuxbrukere og skeptiske "forståsegpåere" :-)
</p>
8574 <p>Jeg husker en leverandør av et stort OS for noen år siden mente at
8575 Skolelinux var kun for hackere og nerder og at ingen seriøse skoler
8576 kunne ta dette i bruk. Heldigvis er kunnskapen større nå og
8577 skikkelige "IT-folk" søker alltid å utvide sin kunnskap.
8579 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8581 <p>Ja det er mange fordeler. Uavhengighet, stabilitet, åpenhet, standarder
8582 osv. Tror det er viktig at man ikke begrenser mulighetene på den plattformen
8583 elevene skal jobbe.
</p>
8585 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8587 <p>Det største hinderet er det vi opplever på andre områder rundt
8588 fri programvare, nemlig kunnskap. For mange er det trygt å velge det vi
8589 alltid har valgt. Fordi leverandørene rundt oss sitter på den kunnskapen og
8590 de vi støtter oss på har den samme. Hvis vi klarer å riste løs litt og
8591 glemme gamle kriger mellom operativsystemer og leverandører, men sette ned
8592 hva som er viktig og velge ut fra det, så hadde man kanskje kommet ut med
8593 litt andre resultat. Jeg tror IT-folk er konservative og velger tradisjonelt
8596 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
8598 <p>Jeg bruker Ubuntu, Android, Jolicloud, Open Office, Zimbra, Picasa
8599 og Firefox samt en bråte med tjenester som er webbasert. Det eneste
8600 som er betalingslisens for er OSX. Ser at jeg jobber mer og mer i
8601 skyen og setter pris på alt jeg slipper egen klient til. Derfor er
8602 jeg veldig sjarmert av små kjappe operativsystemer som krever minimalt
8605 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
8606 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
8608 <p>Tror en blanding av krav og informasjon er veien å gå. Krav om
8609 sikkerhet, oppetid og åpne standarder. Informasjon om muligheter og
8610 alternativer. Her har leverandører, IT-avdelinger og pedagoger en vei
8611 å gå sammen. Det er til slutt LÆRING det dreier seg om, og da må man
8612 få mest mulig læring for pengene man har.
</p>
8618 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
8623 <div class=
"padding"></div>
8627 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Sturle_Sunde.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Sturle Sunde
</a>
8633 <p>Denne gang har jeg fått tak i en mangeårig unix-mann som etter
8634 mange år ved Universitetet i Oslo, der jeg først traff ham, har
8635 flyttet tilbake til vestlandet, og der bidratt til å revitalisere
8636 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a>-oppsettet i
8639 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
8641 <p>Sturle Sunde, ansvarleg for skulenettet i Flora kommune. Eg driv,
8642 vidareutviklar og er andrelinje brukarstøtte for datanettet ved
8643 skulane i Flora kommune.
10 skular og meir enn
700 maskiner med
8644 Linux, medrekna tynnklientar. Tidlegare jobba eg i mange år med
8645 unix-drift ved Universitetets senter for informasjonsteknologi ved
8646 Universitetet i Oslo.
</p>
8648 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
8650 <p>Det er vanskeleg å svare konkret på. Eg har drive med Unix og Linux i
8651 alle år, og Skulelinux er eit godt kjent prosjekt i miljøet. Det var
8652 først i
2008, då eg tok til i min noverande jobb, at eg fekk bruk for
8653 Skulelinux for alvor.
</p>
8655 <p>Jobben min skulle vere drift av eit nytt skulenett i Flora kommune,
8656 levert av eit firma eg ikkje vil reklamere for. Systemet skulle vere
8657 ferdig levert i september året før. Dette viste seg å ta mykje lenger
8658 tid, og i haustferien
2008 hadde dei endå ikkje klart å få opp ei
8659 fungerande løysing. Situasjonen var prekær for den største skulen i
8660 kommunen med meir enn
500 elevar på ungdomssteget. Skulen hadde brukt
8661 Skulelinux før, og var tilfredse med det. No hadde dei vore utan
8662 fungerande datasystem i nesten eit år. Difor fekk eg opp ein ny tenar
8663 utanfor prosjektet og installerte Skulelinux på den. Etter litt
8664 justering av konfigurasjonen med god hjelp av #skolelinux på IRC, var
8665 den nye tenaren oppe og gjekk med både tynne og halv-tjukke klientar.
8666 Autentisering gjekk mot det nye systemet, slik at elevar og lærarar
8667 framleis har same brukarnamn og passord over alt. Dette berre
8668 fungerte, og vi bestemte oss for å erstatte delar av løysinga vi
8669 skulle få levert med Skulelinux.
</p>
8671 <p>Det høyrer med til historia at det nye systemet eg skulle drive frå
8672 januar
2008 endå ikkje er ferdig levert. Dei jobbar med saka, seier
8673 dei, og har von om å fullføre leveransen i løpet av
2011.
</p>
8675 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8677 <p>Det er veldig mange. Eg skal ta nokre få.
</p>
8679 <p>Den viktigaste fordelen er at det igrunn berre er ei maskin å passe
8680 på, og det er tenaren. Med andre løysingar har ein gjerne programvare
8681 og anna som skal vedlikehaldast på kvar enkelt maskin. Med Skulelinux
8682 kan alle feil rettast og alle program oppgraderast på alle maskiner
8683 samstundes ved å gjere endringa som må til på tenaren. Eg kan sitje
8684 på kontoret og passe på alle tenarane i kommunen derifrå.
</p>
8688 <li>Tynne klientar gjer det mogleg å bruke eldre utstyr lenge, so lenge
8689 tenaren er sterk nok. Ein liten tenar med eit par halv-moderne CPUar
8690 og
2 GiB RAM held lenge for eit typisk klasserom med
30 tynnklientar,
8691 og det er lett å utvide med fleire.
8693 <li>Halvtjukke klientar gjer det mogleg å utnytte kapasiteten i litt
8694 nyare maskiner betre, og avlaste tenaren. Ingenting vert installert
8695 lokalt på desse heller, og harddisken kan gjerne koblast frå. Gode
8696 halvtjukke klientar kan kjøpast brukt for under
1000-lappen, og det er
8697 heile kostnaden. Ingen lisensar eller anna på toppen, og det er ikkje
8698 krav til kraftigare tenar heller.
8700 <li>Det er Linux. Vi har ikkje noko kluss med drivarar, dei berre er
8701 der. Heller ikkje med virus, dei finst i realiteten ikkje. Eller med
8702 elevar som klussar med installert programvare, for dei klarar ikkje å
8703 øydeleggje for nokon andre enn seg sjølve.
8707 <p>Skulelinux er lagt opp til å vere veldig lett å installere rett ut
8708 av boksen på ein heil skule av ein interessert lærar. Det er ofte ei
8709 god løysing for skulen. Å ha nokon til stades som kjenner systemet og
8710 kan forklare enkle ting eller løyse problem der og då, er uvurderleg
8711 viktig for ein stressa lærar fem minutt før det ringer inn.
</p>
8713 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8715 <p>All den ferdige konfigurasjonen gjer det tungvint å tilpasse
8716 Skulelinux til eit system som skal fungere saman med mange andre
8717 installasjonar i eit felles datanett for skulane i ein kommune. Det
8718 heile er prekonfigurert for ein skule, og utviding til mange skular
8719 med eigne tenarar er ikkje berre enkelt.
</p>
8721 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
8723 <p>Eg brukar mest alle små hjelpeprogram som føl med operativsystemet,
8724 samt scriptspråket perl. Elles er Firefox/Iceweasel, Gnome-terminal
8725 og ssh i kontinuerleg bruk. Av Linux-distribusjonar brukar eg både
8726 Debian, Ubuntu, SuSE og RedHat dagleg. Eg prøvar å finne det verktyet
8727 som passar best til kvar del av jobben.
</p>
8729 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
8730 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
8732 <p>Det er to målgrupper ein må sikte mot. Det eine er alle skulane som
8733 manglar eller har eit lite tilfredsstillande opplegg i dag, og ikkje
8734 har råd til å kjøpe noko nytt og blankpussa opplegg. Der er det om å
8735 gjere å gjere det enkelt for skulane å finne Skulelinux, og gjere det
8736 enkelt for dei å få hjelp til installasjon på skulen. Gjerne med
8737 lokale kontaktpersonar. Her er det dugnadsinnsats som må til, for
8738 desse skulane har ikkje råd til å betale for dette.
</p>
8740 <p>Den andre og kanskje viktigare målgruppa er dei meir eller mindre
8741 profesjonelle kundane. Alle store offentlege innkjøp, inkludert
8742 innkjøp av nytt datasystem for skular, må ut på offentleg anbod.
8743 Offentlege anbod er mykje meir lukka enn dei gjev inntrykk av, og både
8744 regelboka og boka med triks for å sminke tilbodet er tjukk. Det er
8745 vanskeleg å komme inn utan eit solid salsapparat i ryggen. Kanskje
8746 Skulelinux skulle prøve aktivt å få seg eit partnarskap med eit av dei
8747 store som gjerne vil sterkare inn på den offentlege IT-marknaden?
8748 Nokon som kjenner triksa og har krefter til å ta opp kampen mot både
8749 dårlege anbod og Rudolf Blostrupmoen IT AS. Leveranse til skulane i
8750 ein kommune er ein god måte å få ein fot inn døra som leverandør til
8751 ein lukrativ kommunemarknad som kjøper alle tenester. Ta kontakt med
8752 nokon som er passeleg store og ikkje er Microsoft-partnar, og fortell:
8753 «Vi har eit ferdig produkt som du kan selje. Nei vi skal ikkje ha for
8754 det. Du kan gjerne gjere kva du vil med det, berre vi får lov til å
8755 hjelpe deg. Målgruppa er alle kommunar, og det er noko dei vil ha.
8756 Det er eit godt produkt, brukt av mange og godt likt.»
</p>
8762 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
8767 <div class=
"padding"></div>
8771 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Embrik_Kaslegard.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Embrik Kaslegard
</a>
8777 <p>Neste ut i min intervjuserie med folk i
8778 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinuxprosjektet
</a> er
8779 lærer, mangeårig bidragsyter på epostlistene og tidligere
8780 Skolelinux-administrator på en skole i Hemsedal.
</p>
8782 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
8784 <p>Embrik Kaslegard,
1964-modell, fire barn (
7-
20 år). Begynte som
8785 lærer i
1989 - har hatt IKT-ansvar siden første året i jobb. Har
8786 jobbet som lærer/IKT-ansvarlig uavbrutt siden
1989. Jobbet med
8787 Skolelinux fra
2004 til
2010. Nå har jeg fått ny arbeidsplass og er
8788 40% lærer og
60% IKT med Windows XP, Win2003 server og et regionalt
8789 IKT-regime som legger premissene og begrensingene for hva vi kan gjøre
8792 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
8794 <p>Jeg leste en artikkel om en dugnadsinstallasjon av Skolelinux på en
8795 skole på Jæren et sted. Tanken om dugnad og frihet appellerte til
8796 meg. Da vi skulle bygge ny skole var det en del vi måtte spare på,
8797 fordi vi beveget oss mot en kostnadssprekk. Kabling og investering i
8798 PC-er var en av tingene vi sparte på. Derfor kjøpe vi
72 pc-er for
390
8799 pr stk. En filtjener og en applikasjonsserver.
</p>
8801 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8803 <p>Fordelen er at så mye er satt opp fra starten. I tillegg er det
8804 tydelig at pakka er laga for skoleverket. Brukerne har egne
8805 skrivebord, tilgang på mange gode verktøyprogrammer. Vi slipper å
8806 tenke på virus. Brukerne har ikke mulighet til å ødelegge
8807 klientoppsett, men har gode muligheter til å endre eget oppsett. Dette
8808 tror jeg er inspirerende og kjekt for mange brukere. Mappestrukturen
8809 er ferdig og det er "enkelt" å designe lokale mappestrukturer via
8810 skeleton. Noen av oss i skoleverket mener skolen skal være en
8811 "mot-kultur". Da er Skolelinux et av valgene man kan ta. Et annet er å
8812 spise på indisk restaurant i stedet for Mc Donald's når vi er på bytur
8813 osv.. Ordene deling, frihet, dugnad osv er positive ord i
8814 skoleverket. Det er viktig at elevene blir bevisst dette.
</p>
8816 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8818 <p>Kompabiliteten er selvsagt et problem, selv om det er mindre nå enn
8819 før. For IKT-personer på skolene som skal drifte dette er det
8820 problematisk med kommandoer i terminalen. I tillegg er det alt for
8821 mange programmer i Skolelinux som ikke blir brukt. Jeg tror
8822 Skolelinux er tjent med å tone ned begrepet pedagogisk programvare.
8823 Slik jeg ser det finnes ikke denne kategorien programmer lengre slik
8824 de gjorde før, som frittsående programmer som installeres på en
8825 datamaskin eller på serveren. Det finnes en del spesialpedagogiske
8826 programmer, som Textpilot, LingDys, LingRight, AskiRaski, Ny i Norge
8827 osv. Men dette er programmer for enkelt-elever eller små grupper av
8828 elever. Det som bør være fokus er at alle undervisningsressurser som
8829 lages for nettet skal være nettleseruavhengig.
</p>
8831 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
8833 <p>OpenOffice bruker jeg til vanlig kontorarbeide. VLC bruker jeg som
8834 videoavspiller og av og til streaming av film. Gimp bruker jeg i
8835 undervisningen til bildemanipulering. Firefox og Chrome er mine
8836 favoritt-nettlesere. Firefox har lenge vært førstevalget mitt, nå
8837 bruker jeg mest Chrome. Opplever den som raskere og smidigere enn
8838 Firefox. Ubuntu bruker jeg som dualboot på jobb-maskinen min i
8839 tillegg til at alle PCer hjemme har en eller annen Ubuntu-distribusjon
8840 installert. Jeg bruker Clonezilla på Ubuntu
10.04 til kloning av
8841 datamaskiner på jobb. Det er selvsagt en haug andre frie programmer
8842 jeg bruker men jeg bruker dem ikke daglig. Jeg kan ramse opp:
8843 recordmydesktop, cinelerra, acidrip, soundjuicer, audacity, NX
8844 (no-machine), Kino, Rythmbox...
</p>
8846 <p><strong>Hvilken strategi tror du er den rette å bruke for å få
8847 skoler til å ta i bruk fri programvare?
</strong></p>
8849 <p>Jeg tror oppsøkende virksomhet er den rette strategien.
8850 Ressurspersoner gjør avtaler med rådmenn, skolesjefer, rektorer. Det
8851 er slik konkurrentene gjør det. Fokuset i slike samtaler bør være
8852 kost-nytte. Dersom personer med økonomisk ansvar ser at de kan få
8853 like godt tilbud til mindre utgifter, tror jeg det er mulighet til å
8854 få innpass. Dersom de også kan få konkrete tilbud på drift i slike
8855 samtaler, vil de kanskje bli litt mer interesserte i hvor mye penger
8856 som faktisk går til IKT i skolene. Det er også viktig at vi ikke
8857 firer for mye på krav til datamaskiner. Det er flott at Skolelinux
8858 går på "utrangert" utstyr, men dette bør bare presenteres som et
8859 alternativ. Skolelinux-installasjoner med utrangert utstyr er ikke å
8860 foretrekke dersom man kan unngå det. Det skaper ikke entusiasme hos
8861 brukerne (elever og lærere) når de bruker gamle datamaskiner som går
8862 tregt. Det er kjempefint med skoler som har kommet seg frem til
8863 Skolelinux og fri programvare av seg selv, men de lever på nåde.
8864 Slike valg må fundamenteres hos skoleeier.
</p>
8866 <p>Oppdatering
2011-
01-
16 22:
40: Oppdatert svarene for de tre siste
8867 spørsmålene litt mer tekst fra Embrik.
</p>
8873 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
8878 <div class=
"padding"></div>
8882 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Viggo_Fedreheim.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Viggo Fedreheim
</a>
8888 <p>Jeg fortsetter min intervjuserie med folk i
8889 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinuxprosjektet
</a>. Denne
8890 gang er det en av folkene som har vært med lenge og som har tatt i
8891 bruk Skolelinux på alle skolene i Narvik kommune som skal i ilden.
8892 Han er styremedlem i
8893 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">foreningen
8896 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
8898 <p>Mitt navn er Viggo Fedreheim, og jeg er pedagogisk og teknisk
8899 IKT-veileder for alle skoler i Narvik kommune. Jeg drifter totalt
17
8900 servere basert på Skolelinux og Debian. Jeg holder i tillegg noen kurs
8901 mellom all driftingen. For tiden arbeider jeg med en sentral
8902 LDAP-tjener for alle skoleservere samt våre Moodle- og
8903 Joomla-installasjoner.
</p>
8905 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
8907 <p>Gjennom en eller annen nettavis i
2001 der var det skrevet om
8908 Skolelinux. Artikkelen ga meg lyst til å prøve ut systemet.
</p>
8910 <p>Det startet i
2002 ved at jeg installerte en av de første utgavene
8911 av Skolelinux på en standard pc på Solneset skole i Tromsø. Denne var
8912 oppe fram til desember
2003 da jeg sluttet på den skolen og begynte i
8913 ny jobb i Narvik kommune.
</p>
8915 <p> I Narvik kommune var det i
2004 kun
2 servere på da totalt
15
8916 skoler. Disse var Windows NT baserte. På disse to skolene var det lite
8917 med maskiner. Jobben med å få Narvik Kommune opp på akseptabelt nivå
8918 virket å være formidabel. Men med hjelp av gode kollegaer og leder
8919 skrev jeg en IKT plan for Narvik kommune som ble vedtatt av politikere
8920 i august
2004. I denne planen ble det bestemt at Narvik kommune skulle
8921 bruke Skolelinux. Her ble det også satt av midler til kabling av god
8922 infrastruktur på alle skoler samt innkjøp av nye datamaskiner. Så i
8923 dag har vi
17 servere hvorav
13 er på Skolelinux, med ca
1500 klienter
8924 basert på tynne, "halvtykke" og et stort antall bærbare pcer basert på
8927 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8929 <p>Lisenskostnader, driftkostnader og hardwarekrav som er mye lavere
8930 enn for andre systemer.
</p>
8932 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
8934 <p>Pedagogiske programvare som ikke fungerer mot Linux. En Stoooor
8935 flaskehals og som gjør at Linux kanskje ikke blir valgt andre
8938 <p>Eksempler er Relemo, Lindys (lingit sine programmer),
5plus
8939 (matematikk). Disse er programmer som ikke lar seg kjøre i Linux.
</p>
8941 <p> Men det ser ut for at mange leverandører går over til mer
8942 nettbaserte programmer istedet for å installere lokalt. Dette med
8943 enkelte leverandører som ikke kan levere programmer til Linux er et
8944 lite problem og over tid tror jeg at denne barrieren er borte.
</p>
8946 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
8948 <p>Kjører Kubuntu på laptoper, Debian squeeze på stasjonær
8949 kontorpc. Ut over dette arbeder jeg svært mye via konsoll mot andre
8956 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
8961 <div class=
"padding"></div>
8965 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_intervju__Arnt_Ove_Gregersen.html">Skolelinux-intervju: Arnt Ove Gregersen
</a>
8972 <a href=
"http://raphaelhertzog.com/tag/interview/">intervjurunden
</a>
8973 som Raphael Hertzog har startet med folk i Debianprosjektet, fikk jeg
8974 lyst til å gjøre det samme med folk i
8975 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinuxprosjektet
</a>. Håpet
8976 er at de som til daglig bidrar til å fremme fri programvare i
8977 skoleverket og utvikler en linux-distribusjon spesiallaget for
8978 skolebruk kan bli bedre kjent og kanskje inspirere flere til å bidra
8979 til Skolelinux-prosjektet.
</p>
8981 <p>Først ut er nyvalgt leder i
8982 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">foreningen FRISK
</a> som
8983 organiserer utviklingen av Skolelinux-distribusjonen. FRISK trenger
8984 alltid flere medlemmer, så
8985 <a href=
"http://medlem.friprogramvareiskolen.no/index.php?page=signup">meld
8986 deg gjerne inn
</a> hvis du vil støtte oss.
</p>
8988 <p><strong>Hvem er du, og hva driver du med til daglig?
</strong></p>
8990 <p><!-- Mitt navn er Arnt Ove Gregersen, jeg er en småbarnfar på 32 år som
8991 for tiden bor Trondheim. -->
8992 Mitt navn er Arnt Ove Gregersen, jeg er
32 år og bor for tiden i Trondheim.
8994 Her jobber jeg som systemutvikler i et firma
8995 som heter
<a href=
"http://www.geomatikk-ikt.no/">Geomatikk IKT AS
</a>,
8996 hvor jeg er på et Vegmeldings-prosjekt for Statens Vegvesen. På
8997 fritiden er jeg styreleder i FRISK (Fri programvare i skolen) og
8998 bidrar til bl.a. Skolelinux-prosjektet når jeg får tid til det. Det er
8999 primært hjemmesiden til Skolelinux-prosjektet og
9000 <a href=
"http://linuxveiviseren.no/">Linux-veiviseren
</a> jeg har
9001 jobbet med her, men jeg har også gjort en del arbeid i forhold til
9002 FRISK sin hjemmeside.
</p>
9004 <p><strong>Hvordan kom du i kontakt med Skolelinux-prosjektet?
</strong></p>
9006 <p>Jeg var på en presentasjon av prosjektet i regi av Knut Yrvin på
9007 Gløshaugen i Trondheim, hvor jeg fattet stor interesse for prosjektet
9008 og ville hjelpe til så godt jeg kunne. Dette var vel i
2002 eller
9011 <p>Jeg hadde fra før hørt om prosjektet fra før og syntes tanken bak var
9012 ganske fin, men hadde ikke noen interesse av bruke min egen fritid på
9015 <p>I etterkant av presentasjonen startet jeg og noen andre fra
9016 Trondheim "Skolelinux-prosjektet i Sør-Trøndelag" . Hvor vi var med å
9017 bidra til at Trondheim kommune satte igang Selsbakk ungdomskole som et
9018 pilotprosjekt med Skolelinux, som egentlig var og er en stor suksess,
9019 men det virker ut som det ikke skjer noe mer på. I tillegg var vi med
9020 på dugnad på Brundalen videregående skole hvor vi installerte
9021 Skolelinux som såvidt jeg vet fortsatt kjører på Skolelinux.
</p>
9023 <p><strong>Hva er fordelene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
9025 <p>Det bygger på fri programvare og har lav kostnad i forhold til
9026 nytteverdien. Dette fordi det har forholdsvis lav inngangsum og bruker
9027 en arkitektur med sentral-drift som gir mange driftfordeler. I
9028 tillegg vil det kunne frigjøre kostnader for skolene slik at de kan
9029 bruke dem til å ansette f,eks flere lærere om det er ønskelig.
</p>
9031 <p><strong>Hva er ulempene med Skolelinux slik du ser det?
</strong></p>
9033 <P>Ikke all pedagogisk programvare er tilgjengelig der, som f.eks
9034 Drillpro om jeg ikke husker feil.
</p>
9036 <p><strong>Hvilken fri programvare bruker du til daglig?
</strong></p>
9038 <p>Til utvikling av Java-applikasjoner og Android bruker jeg Eclipse og
9039 Quanta til web-utvikling via php. For all bildebehandling bruker jeg
9040 GIMP og Blender til
3d-modellering . Dessverre har Blender en bratt
9041 læringskurve i starten, men det er absolutt verdt det.
9043 <p>Til musikk bruker jeg stort Rhytmbox. Firefox til surfing på nettet og
9044 Thunderbird og Evolution til e-post,
9046 <p>På database-siden bruker jeg PostgreSQL, Postgis og av og til Mysql.
9048 <p>Når jeg får tid til å spille bruker jeg som regel et strategi-spill
9049 som er basert på TA Spring-motoren (springrts.com), her er det et
9050 veldig bra utvalg av gratis spill som er av høy kvalitet. Veldig lett
9057 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/intervju">intervju
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
9062 <div class=
"padding"></div>
9066 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Inspirerende_fra_en_ukjent_Skolelinux_skole.html">Inspirerende fra en ukjent Skolelinux-skole
</a>
9072 <p>Følgende inspirerende historie fant jeg i
9073 <a href=
"http://www.digi.no/php/ny_debatt.php?id=858869#innlegg_770926">kommentarfeltet
9074 hos digi.no
</a> i forbindelse med en trist sak om hvordan
9075 <a href=
"http://www.digi.no/858869/datakaos-etter-linux-satsing">skolen
9076 i Hemsedal har fått ødelagt
</a> sin Skolelinux-installasjon. Jeg har
9077 fikset endel åpenbare skrivefeil for lesbarhetens skyld.
</p>
9080 <p><strong>Lignende situasjon i annen kommune, se bare her:
</strong>
9081 <br>av Inspektør Siri (gjest)
9083 <p>Kommunen min har to omtrent jevnstore tettsteder, og en
9084 ungdomsskole i hvert av tettstedene. Den minste av disse har ca
300
9085 elever og til denne sogner det
3 barneskoler. Den største har ca
350
9086 elever og til denne sogner det
4 barneskoler.
</p>
9090 <li>Kommunen har i veldig lang tid forsømt IKT i skolen, og det har
9091 bare blitt gitt smuler i ny og ne. Det er kun den største av
9092 ungdomsskolene som har hatt en skikkelig datapark, og dette takket
9093 være en naturfaglærer som ble lei av å vente på kommunen. Det gjorde
9094 at vi bestemte oss for å ta ting i egne hender, og da vha
9095 skolelinux. En testinstallasjon med
10 gamle PCer ble gjort, og vi så
9096 raskt at dette var veldig lovende. Neste etappe var å gi alle lærere
9097 egen PC på arbeidsplassene sine (
2004), og så sette opp
16 PCer på to
9098 datarom. Vi har kun basert oss på å kjøpe inn brukte maskiner, og
9099 aldri dyrere enn
1000 kr pr klient. For to år siden så hadde vi
9100 klienter i alle klasserom, og totalt hadde vi da rundt
250 stk. Rundt
9101 40 klienter brukes av lærerne og kjører på en egen server. Elvene har
9102 resten, og kjører også en egen server. Servere har vi også kjøpt
9103 brukt,
2 år gamle servere koster
6-
7000 kroner.
</li>
9105 <li>Skolen vår er et relativt gammelt bygg, men en meget dyktig
9106 vaktmester har sammen med IKT-ansvarlig/Naturfaglærer lagt kabler til alle
9107 rom. Gradvis har vi byttet ut billige svitsjer med mer solide saker
9108 som er mulig å fjernstyre.
</li>
9110 <li>Vi har i all hovedsak greid å få dette til over eget budsjett, men
9111 vi har også passet på å få penger når de andre skolene har fått
9112 bærbare PCer til lærere osv.
</li>
9114 <li>Vår IKT-ansvarlig har gjort (og gjør) en fenomenal jobb, og vi har
9115 en maskinpark som de andre av kommunens skoler bare kan drømme
9120 <p>Så skjer det som ofte skjer. Det kommer en eller annen
9121 selger/blåruss og skal fikse ALT. I vårt tilfelle betyr dette også
9122 sentralisering av drift. Den ny-ansatte på kommunens IT-avdelingen
9123 skal også ha jobb, og ser for seg å ta over skoledriften. Kommunen
9124 kjøper inn eksterne driftstjenester, og nekter i samme slengen å ta
9125 hensyn til skolen vår. Dette til tross for at vi alene har like mange
9126 datamaskiner som de andre til sammen.
</p>
9130 <li>Det blir krevd at vi skal innlemmes i de kommunale systemet, og
9131 det er VI som får ansvar for at dette kommer på plass. Og det er her
9132 de horrible tingene begynner å skje.
</li>
9134 <li>Det settes opp en lukket Exchange server som gjør av vi ikke kan
9135 hente epost for våre ansatte. Og det kreves at vi finner løsning på
9138 <li>Det velges sak arkivsystem som vi pålegges å bruke, noe som gjør
9139 at vi må bruke en terminalløsning mot kommunal server. Ikke i seg selv
9140 et problem i følge IKT-ansvarlig hos oss. Men kommunens IT-avd nektet
9141 faktisk å åpne de porter OSV som vi måtte bruke.
</li>
9143 <li>Vi blir pålagt å flytte på innsiden av det kommunale
9144 nettverket. Dette gjorde at vi mistet hjemmekontor for lærere og
9145 elever. Å få åpnet porter i kommunal brannmur var ikke
9146 aktuelt. Mulighet for fjerndrift ble også vekk i samme slengen.
</li>
9148 <li>Vår LMS Moodle er ikke mulig å nå for elevene og lærerne.
9152 <p>Den andre ungdomsskolen i kommunen begynner så å kreve at de skal
9153 få bedre datatetthet, og komme opp på et nivå som ligner det vi
9154 har. De ser at vi kan avholde eksamen hvor alle
10. klassingene får
9155 sitte ved hver sin PC. Og de har fått tilbakemelding (klager) fra VGS
9156 om manglende datakompetanse på elevene som kommer fra dem. Dette fører
9157 videre til at kommunen endelig innser at de må ta grep.
</p>
9159 <p>Grepet betyr sentralisering, og farvel til vår plattform får vi
9160 høre. Det blir gjort en rekke bestemmelser og vedtak som vi ikke får
9161 være en del av. Det blir helt klart at vi må redusere antall maskiner,
9162 og det skal satses på bærbare maskiner. Siden vi ikke har fått tatt
9163 del i prosessene som angår oss, så bruker vi fagforening. Vi har ikke
9164 blitt hørt i forbindelse med endringer som er betydelig for vår
9165 hverdag, og greier å stoppe omlegging. I tillegg så har vi et politisk
9166 vedtak i kommunen på at vi skal kjøre Linux på elevnett, og dette
9167 vedtaket kan ikke administrasjonen i kommunene helt uten videre
9170 <p>I sum har dette gjort at vi har fått jobbe videre i fred. Og en del
9171 runder i kommunens kontrollutvalg har gjort det tydelig at vi har blitt
9172 systematisk motarbeidet.
</p>
9174 <p>I dag har de andre skolene fått sine bærbare maskiner til elever og
9175 lærere, men etter
2 år med innkjøring er det fremdeles problemer
9180 <li>Ungdomsskolen med windows kan ikke kjøre eksamen med sine bærbare,
9181 det er for mye arbeid å renske disse for innhold slik at juks ikke er
9184 <li>Utskrift er et mareritt, etter sigende pga at utskrift først
9185 sendes til sentral server, og så sendes ut til rett skriver. I snitt
9186 så tar det
7-
8 minutter før utskrift starter på enkelte av
9189 <li>Trådløst skaper store problemer, og det er i perioder helt umulig
9190 å komme seg på nett. Og lagring på felles server er bare å glemme i
9195 <p>Vi har slitt mye, kranglet og sloss. Ikke med tekniske problemer,
9196 men med omgivelsene rundt som vil oss til livs. Men det har vært verdt
9197 hver dråpe med svette, og timer med irritasjon. Men vi har begynt å få
9202 <li>Vi har fremdeles et system som vi styrer helt selv.
</li>
9203 <li>Vi har vist at argumentet med at vår IKT-ansvarlig kan finne seg annen jobb ikke holder mål. Vi har kjøpt driftskonto hos et firma i tilfelle krise, og vi har kjørt opplæring på flere av de yngre lærerne.
</li>
9204 <li>Vi har til enhver tid en lærling IKT driftsfag, og velger selvsagt ut dem som satser på Linux. Vi har nå begynt å få tilbake av våre tidligere elever som vil til oss nettopp fordi vi har Linux.
</li>
9205 <li>Vi har vist at vi greier å opprettholde en dobbelt så stor datapark som naboskolen, og det til en billigere penge.
</li>
9206 <li>Vi har datastøtte og support på huset, ALLTID tilgjengelig. De andre skolene må vente flere dager hvis det ikke er noe kritisk.
</li>
9207 <li>Vår IKT-ansvarlig har
50% stilling som lærer og
50% som IKT-ansvarlig.
</li>
9208 <li>Vi har en lærer på hvert trinn som har
3 timer i uka til å drive support/støtte til de andre lærerne.
</li>
9209 <li>Vi opplever at de yngste lærerne ved den andre ungdomsskolen ønsker seg over til oss.
</li>
9213 <p>Vi skal i løpet av året starte prosess med å planlegge ny skole, og vi har fått gjennomslag for at jeg (inspektør) og IKT-ansvarlig skal ha det fulle og hele ansvar for IKT/Infrastruktur. Begrunnelsen vår som ble avgjørende her, var at IT-avd i kommunen ikke kan noe om data i skolen.
</p>
9215 <p>Beklager hvis dette ble litt usammenhengende, men det ble tastet i
9216 fei, og jeg har ikke lest gjennom
</p>
9219 <p>Det kom raskt et lite svar:
</p>
9222 <p><strong>SV: Lignende situasjon i annen kommune, se bare her:
</strong>
9223 <br>av captain_obvious
</p>
9225 <p>Inspirerende å lese. Har dere gjort noe for å fortelle denne
9226 historien videre?
</p>
9228 <p>Hadde vært svært interessant om dere tok kontakt med dokument
2 eller
9229 lignende for å fortelle hvordan det egentlig står til med
9230 IT-satsningen i kommune-Norge. Om ikke annet kan du begynner med å
9231 raffinere innlegget ditt og få en gjesteartikkel på digi.no
</p>
9234 <p>Og deretter en lengre oppfølging.
</p>
9237 <p><strong>SV: Lignende situasjon i annen kommune, se bare her:
</strong>
9238 <br>av Inspektør Siri (gjest)
9240 <p>Joda, vi har lekt med tanken, og vi har t.o.m skrevet flere lengre
9241 leserinnlegg myntet på aviser. Disse er ikke sendt til aviser, men
9242 brukt internt i forbindelse med møter med kommune. Vår IKT-ansvarlig
9243 har også truet med å si opp jobben sin hvis det ikke ble tatt hensyn i
9244 større grad enn hva som har vært tilfelle. VI kan også dokumentere
9245 flere brudd på anbudsregler, og vi kjenner til at relativt store
9246 IT-leverandører som ikke har fått tatt del i disse anbudene, rett og
9247 slett ikke tør melde fra av redsel for å få et dårlig rykte.
</p>
9249 <p>Alt ser ut til å roe seg ned, og vi har fått opp øynene på
9250 politikerne. I sum gjør dette at vi ikke ønsker for mye publisitet nå,
9251 det vil bare rote til igjen.
</p>
9253 <p>Jeg glemte å nevne at vi nå nesten ikke bruker tid på å drifte
9254 systemet vårt, noe som gjør at det aller meste av tid blir brukt til å
9255 støtte lærerne og elevene. F.eks så bruker vår IKT-ansvarlig den
9256 første timen på jobb,
0730-
0830 kun til å gå ute på arbeidsplassene
9257 til læreren. Dette for å kunne svare på små og store problem, gi tips
9258 og råd, eller bare for å plukke opp hva som er behovet ute i
9259 undervisningsarealene. Det er dessverre ikke slik at alle lærerne har
9260 nok digital kompetanse til å kunne formulere alle spørsmålene de har,
9261 men ved å kunne få vise eller lufte tanker med IKT-ansvarlig så er det
9262 utrolig hva som kommer fram.
</p>
9266 <li>Jeg ser at mange bruker økonomi som argument i forhold til å bruke
9267 SkoleLinux, og jeg skal ikke legge skjul på at det var dette som i
9268 utgangspunktet var årsaken til vårt valg. Men diskusjonene og kampen
9269 med kommunens IT-avdeling har gjort at vi har fått et noe annet
9270 fokus. Fordelene med drift og stabilitet, gjør at vi ville ha valgt
9271 samme løsning selv om den var dyrere. At vi slipper langt billigere
9272 unna, som følge av
0,- lisenskostnader og lave maskinvarekostnader, er
9273 bare en bonus.
</li>
9275 <li>Etter å ha kranglet oss til å få skikkelig oversikt over hva de
9276 andre skolene i kommunen bruker på IT, så har vi fått gehør for å få
9277 samme midler til innkjøp. Dette har gjort at vi nå kan kjøpe inn
9278 utstyr som de andre skolene bare kan se langt etter. Vi har nettopp
9279 kjøpt inn
3 videokamera i semiproff-klassen for å kunne lage film,
9280 samt sende live fra skoleteater/konserter. Vi har kjøpt inn digitale
9281 kompaktkamera til alle klassene. Vi har et team av lærere som skal i
9282 gang med å teste ut tablets på svake elever. Håpet et at teknologien
9283 kan være med på å gi noen av elevene litt mer motivasjon. Vi har kjøpt
9284 inn et halvt klassesett med pulsklokker, noe som har vist seg å være
9285 overraskende inspirerende for en del av elevene. Vi har også oss på
9286 fag på en høyskole litt lengre sør for oss, slik at
3 av oss nå skal
9287 ta faget "Linux tjenestedrift". Som inspektør og en del av skolens
9288 administrasjon er det veldig praktisk å kunne trå til hvis det
9289 kniper. Men IKT-ansvarlig har vært UTROLIG flink til å lage rene
9290 smørbrødlister for hvordan de mest vanlige driftsproblem løses, så det
9291 er lett for flere av oss å ta del i den daglige driften. Vi har svært
9292 stor nytte av lærling (som også hjelper to av naboskolene), men det er
9293 nesten blitt slik at det er om å gjøre å komme til først for å få løse
9294 problem. Det å få fingrene på problem og utfordringer er den aller
9295 beste læremester.
</li>
9299 <p>Når vi nå tar til med planlegging av ny skole, så vil det være med
9300 tanke på at det skal være mulig med datautstyr på alle plasser. Vi
9301 kommer i all hovedsak til å legge kabel til alle tenkelige og
9302 utenkelige plasser. WiFi koster tilnærmet NULL å sette opp i
9305 <p>Vi har ikke vært noe flink til å bidra til SkoleLinux-prosjektet,
9306 vi har rett og slett vært for opptatt med vår egen kamp. Vi har hentet
9307 mye inspirasjon fra diskusjoner som har gått i det miljøet, og vi
9308 håper at vi nå framover kan få tid til å bidra. Vi er i ferd med å
9309 bytte ut en av serverne våre, og da vil denne trolig bli satt opp som
9310 testserver for neste versjon av Skolelinux. På den måten vil vi i alle
9311 fall kunne gi tilbakemeldinger og rapportere feil. I tillegg så vil
9312 det kanskje gi oss noen nye utfordringer, for som lærlingen vår sier:
9313 "Skolelinux er noe herk, det skjer jo ikke noe galt og hvordan skal
9318 <p>Det er veldig hyggelig å høre at
9319 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a> fungerer så bra i
9320 skoleverdagen etter å ha jobbet med det i
10 år.
</p>
9326 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
9331 <div class=
"padding"></div>
9335 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/How_to_test_if_a_laptop_is_working_with_Linux.html">How to test if a laptop is working with Linux
</a>
9341 <p>The last few days I have spent at work here at the
<a
9342 href=
"http://www.uio.no/">University of Oslo
</a> testing if the new
9343 batch of computers will work with Linux. Every year for the last few
9344 years the university have organised shared bid of a few thousand
9345 computers, and this year HP won the bid. Two different desktops and
9346 five different laptops are on the list this year. We in the UNIX
9347 group want to know which one of these computers work well with RHEL
9348 and Ubuntu, the two Linux distributions we currently handle at the
9351 <p>My test method is simple, and I share it here to get feedback and
9352 perhaps inspire others to test hardware as well. To test, I PXE
9353 install the OS version of choice, and log in as my normal user and run
9354 a few applications and plug in selected pieces of hardware. When
9355 something fail, I make a note about this in the test matrix and move
9356 on. If I have some spare time I try to report the bug to the OS
9357 vendor, but as I only have the machines for a short time, I rarely
9358 have the time to do this for all the problems I find.
</p>
9360 <p>Anyway, to get to the point of this post. Here is the simple tests
9361 I perform on a new model.
</p>
9365 <li>Is PXE installation working? I'm testing with RHEL6, Ubuntu Lucid
9366 and Ubuntu Maverik at the moment. If I feel like it, I also test with
9367 RHEL5 and Debian Edu/Squeeze.
</li>
9369 <li>Is X.org working? If the graphical login screen show up after
9370 installation, X.org is working.
</li>
9372 <li>Is hardware accelerated OpenGL working? Running glxgears (in
9373 package mesa-utils on Ubuntu) and writing down the frames per second
9374 reported by the program.
</li>
9376 <li>Is sound working? With Gnome and KDE, a sound is played when
9377 logging in, and if I can hear this the test is successful. If there
9378 are several audio exits on the machine, I try them all and check if
9379 the Gnome/KDE audio mixer can control where to send the sound. I
9380 normally test this by playing
9381 <a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20101012-chef/ ">a HTML5
9382 video
</a> in Firefox/Iceweasel.
</li>
9384 <li>Is the USB subsystem working? I test this by plugging in a USB
9385 memory stick and see if Gnome/KDE notices this.
</li>
9387 <li>Is the CD/DVD player working? I test this by inserting any CD/DVD
9388 I have lying around, and see if Gnome/KDE notices this.
</li>
9390 <li>Is any built in camera working? Test using cheese, and see if a
9391 picture from the v4l device show up.
</li>
9393 <li>Is bluetooth working? Use the Gnome/KDE browsing tool to see if
9394 any bluetooth devices are discovered. In my office, I normally see a
9397 <li>For laptops, is the SD or Compaq Flash reader working. I have
9398 memory modules lying around, and stick them in and see if Gnome/KDE
9401 <li>For laptops, is suspend/hibernate working? I'm testing if the
9402 special button work, and if the laptop continue to work after
9405 <li>For laptops, is the extra buttons working, like audio level,
9406 adjusting background light, switching on/off external video output,
9407 switching on/off wifi, bluetooth, etc? The set of buttons differ from
9408 laptop to laptop, so I just write down which are working and which are
9411 <li>Some laptops have smart card readers, finger print readers,
9412 acceleration sensors etc. I rarely test these, as I do not know how
9413 to quickly test if they are working or not, so I only document their
9418 <p>By now I suspect you are really curious what the test results are
9419 for the HP machines I am testing. I'm not done yet, so I will report
9420 the test results later. For now I can report that HP
8100 Elite work
9421 fine, and hibernation fail with HP EliteBook
8440p on Ubuntu Lucid,
9422 and audio fail on RHEL6. Ubuntu Maverik worked with
8440p. As you
9423 can see, I have most machines left to test. One interesting
9424 observation is that Ubuntu Lucid has almost twice the frame rate than
9425 RHEL6 with glxgears. No idea why.
</p>
9431 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
9436 <div class=
"padding"></div>
9440 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_development_gathering_and_General_Assembly_for_FRiSK.html">Debian Edu development gathering and General Assembly for FRiSK
</a>
9446 <p>On friday, the first Debian Edu / Skolelinux
9447 <a href=
"http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/Gathering/2010-12-03-05-Oslo">development
9448 gathering
</a> in a long time take place here in Oslo, Norway. I
9449 really look forward to seeing all the good people working on the
9450 Squeeze release. The gathering is open for everyone interested in
9451 learning more about Debian Edu / Skolelinux.
</p>
9453 <p>On Saturday, the Norwegian member organization taking care of
9454 organizing these development gatherings, Fri Programvare i Skolen,
9456 <a href=
"http://friprogramvareiskolen.no/Genfors/2010">General Assembly
9457 for
2010</a>. Membership is open for all, and currently there are
388
9458 people registered as members. Last year
32 members cast their vote in
9459 the memberdb based election system. I hope more people find time to
9466 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
9471 <div class=
"padding"></div>
9475 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Why_isn_t_Debian_Edu_using_VLC_.html">Why isn't Debian Edu using VLC?
</a>
9481 <p>In the latest issue of Linux Journal, the readers choices were
9482 presented, and the winner among the multimedia player were VLC.
9483 Personally, I like VLC, and it is my player of choice when I first try
9484 to play a video file or stream. Only if VLC fail will I drag out
9485 gmplayer to see if it can do better. The reason is mostly the failure
9486 model and trust. When VLC fail, it normally pop up a error message
9487 reporting the problem. When mplayer fail, it normally segfault or
9488 just hangs. The latter failure mode drain my trust in the program.
<p>
9490 <p>But even if VLC is my player of choice, we have choosen to use
9491 mplayer in
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian
9492 Edu/Skolelinux
</a>. The reason is simple. We need a good browser
9493 plugin to play web videos seamlessly, and the VLC browser plugin is
9494 not very good. For example, it lack in-line control buttons, so there
9495 is no way for the user to pause the video. Also, when I
9496 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/BrowserMultimedia">last
9497 tested the browser plugins
</a> available in Debian, the VLC plugin
9498 failed on several video pages where mplayer based plugins worked. If
9499 the browser plugin for VLC was as good as the gecko-mediaplayer
9500 package (which uses mplayer), we would switch.
</P>
9502 <p>While VLC is a good player, its user interface is slightly
9503 annoying. The most annoying feature is its inconsistent use of
9504 keyboard shortcuts. When the player is in full screen mode, its
9505 shortcuts are different from when it is playing the video in a window.
9506 For example, space only work as pause when in full screen mode. I
9507 wish it had consisten shortcuts and that space also would work when in
9508 window mode. Another nice shortcut in gmplayer is [enter] to restart
9509 the current video. It is very nice when playing short videos from the
9510 web and want to restart it when new people arrive to have a look at
9511 what is going on.
</p>
9517 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web
</a>.
9522 <div class=
"padding"></div>
9526 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades_of_the_Gnome_and_KDE_desktop__now_with_apt_get_autoremove.html">Lenny-
>Squeeze upgrades of the Gnome and KDE desktop, now with apt-get autoremove
</a>
9532 <p>Michael Biebl suggested to me on IRC, that I changed my automated
9533 upgrade testing of the
9534 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/~pere/debian-upgrade-testing/">Lenny
9535 Gnome and KDE Desktop
</a> to do
<tt>apt-get autoremove
</tt> when using apt-get.
9536 This seem like a very good idea, so I adjusted by test scripts and
9537 can now present the updated result from today:
</p>
9539 <p>This is for Gnome:
</p>
9541 <p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p>
9548 browser-plugin-gnash
9555 freedesktop-sound-theme
9557 gconf-defaults-service
9572 gnome-desktop-environment
9576 gnome-session-canberra
9581 gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
9587 libapache2-mod-dnssd
9590 libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3
9593 libboost-date-time1.42
.0
9594 libboost-python1.42
.0
9595 libboost-thread1.42
.0
9597 libchamplain-gtk-
0.4-
0
9599 libclutter-gtk-
0.10-
0
9606 libfreerdp-plugins-standard
9621 libgnomepanel2.24-cil
9626 libgtksourceview2.0-common
9627 libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil
9628 libmono-addins0.2-cil
9629 libmono-cairo2.0-cil
9630 libmono-corlib2.0-cil
9631 libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil
9632 libmono-posix2.0-cil
9633 libmono-security2.0-cil
9634 libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil
9635 libmono-system2.0-cil
9638 libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil
9639 libndesk-dbus1.0-cil
9649 libtelepathy-farsight0
9658 nautilus-sendto-empathy
9662 python-aptdaemon-gtk
9664 python-beautifulsoup
9679 python-gtksourceview2
9690 python-pkg-resources
9697 python-twisted-conch
9703 python-zope.interface
9708 rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder
9715 system-config-printer-udev
9717 telepathy-mission-control-
5
9730 <p>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
</p>
9738 fast-user-switch-applet
9757 libgtksourceview2.0-
0
9759 libsdl1.2debian-alsa
9765 system-config-printer
9772 <p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p>
9775 gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
9778 <p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p>
9784 <p>This is for KDE:
</p>
9786 <p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p>
9792 <p>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
</p>
9799 <p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p>
9815 kdeartwork-emoticons
9817 kdeartwork-theme-icon
9821 kdebase-workspace-bin
9822 kdebase-workspace-data
9836 kscreensaver-xsavers
9851 plasma-dataengines-workspace
9853 plasma-desktopthemes-artwork
9854 plasma-runners-addons
9855 plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets
9856 plasma-scriptengine-python
9857 plasma-scriptengine-qedje
9858 plasma-scriptengine-ruby
9859 plasma-scriptengine-webkit
9860 plasma-scriptengines
9861 plasma-wallpapers-addons
9862 plasma-widget-folderview
9863 plasma-widget-networkmanagement
9867 xscreensaver-data-extra
9869 xscreensaver-gl-extra
9870 xscreensaver-screensaver-bsod
9873 <p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p>
9877 google-gadgets-common
9895 libggadget-qt-
1.0-
0b
9900 libkonqsidebarplugin4a
9909 libplasma-geolocation-interface4
9911 libplasmagenericshell4
9925 libsmokeknewstuff2-
3
9926 libsmokeknewstuff3-
3
9928 libsmokektexteditor3
9936 libsmokeqtnetwork4-
3
9942 libsmokeqtuitools4-
3
9954 plasma-dataengines-addons
9955 plasma-scriptengine-superkaramba
9956 plasma-widget-lancelot
9957 plasma-widgets-addons
9958 plasma-widgets-workspace
9962 update-notifier-common
9965 <p>Running apt-get autoremove made the results using apt-get and
9966 aptitude a bit more similar, but there are still quite a lott of
9967 differences. I have no idea what packages should be installed after
9968 the upgrade, but hope those that do can have a look.
</p>
9974 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
9979 <div class=
"padding"></div>
9983 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Migrating_Xen_virtual_machines_using_LVM_to_KVM_using_disk_images.html">Migrating Xen virtual machines using LVM to KVM using disk images
</a>
9989 <p>Most of the computers in use by the
9990 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu/Skolelinux project
</a>
9991 are virtual machines. And they have been Xen machines running on a
9992 fairly old IBM eserver xseries
345 machine, and we wanted to migrate
9993 them to KVM on a newer Dell PowerEdge
2950 host machine. This was a
9994 bit harder that it could have been, because we set up the Xen virtual
9995 machines to get the virtual partitions from LVM, which as far as I
9996 know is not supported by KVM. So to migrate, we had to convert
9997 several LVM logical volumes to partitions on a virtual disk file.
</p>
10000 <a href=
"http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com.au/articles/35011-Six-steps-for-migrating-Xen-virtual-machines-to-KVM">a
10001 nice recipe
</a> to do this, and wrote the following script to do the
10002 migration. It uses qemu-img from the qemu package to make the disk
10003 image, parted to partition it, losetup and kpartx to present the disk
10004 image partions as devices, and dd to copy the data. I NFS mounted the
10005 new servers storage area on the old server to do the migration.
</p>
10011 # http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com.au/articles/
35011-Six-steps-for-migrating-Xen-virtual-machines-to-KVM
10016 if [ -z "$
1" ] ; then
10017 echo "Usage: $
0 <hostname
>"
10023 if [ ! -e /dev/vg_data/$host-disk ] ; then
10024 echo "error: unable to find LVM volume for $host"
10028 # Partitions need to be a bit bigger than the LVM LVs. not sure why.
10029 disksize=$( lvs --units m | grep $host-disk | awk '{sum = sum + $
4} END { print int(sum *
1.05) }')
10030 swapsize=$( lvs --units m | grep $host-swap | awk '{sum = sum + $
4} END { print int(sum *
1.05) }')
10031 totalsize=$(( ( $disksize + $swapsize ) ))
10034 #dd if=/dev/zero of=$img bs=
1M count=$(( $disksize + $swapsize ))
10035 qemu-img create $img ${totalsize}MMaking room on the Debian Edu/Sqeeze DVD
10037 parted $img mklabel msdos
10038 parted $img mkpart primary linux-swap
0 $disksize
10039 parted $img mkpart primary ext2 $disksize $totalsize
10040 parted $img set
1 boot on
10043 losetup /dev/loop0 $img
10044 kpartx -a /dev/loop0
10046 dd if=/dev/vg_data/$host-disk of=/dev/mapper/loop0p1 bs=
1M
10047 fsck.ext3 -f /dev/mapper/loop0p1 || true
10048 mkswap /dev/mapper/loop0p2
10050 kpartx -d /dev/loop0
10051 losetup -d /dev/loop0
10054 <p>The script is perhaps so simple that it is not copyrightable, but
10055 if it is, it is licenced using GPL v2 or later at your discretion.
</p>
10057 <p>After doing this, I booted a Debian CD in rescue mode in KVM with
10058 the new disk image attached, installed grub-pc and linux-image-
686 and
10059 set up grub to boot from the disk image. After this, the KVM machines
10060 seem to work just fine.
</p>
10066 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
10071 <div class=
"padding"></div>
10073 <div class=
"entry">
10074 <div class=
"title">
10075 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__apt_vs_aptitude_with_the_Gnome_and_KDE_desktop.html">Lenny-
>Squeeze upgrades, apt vs aptitude with the Gnome and KDE desktop
</a>
10081 <p>I'm still running upgrade testing of the
10082 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/~pere/debian-upgrade-testing/">Lenny
10083 Gnome and KDE Desktop
</a>, but have not had time to spend on reporting the
10084 status. Here is a short update based on a test I ran
20101118.
</p>
10086 <p>I still do not know what a correct migration should look like, so I
10087 report any differences between apt and aptitude and hope someone else
10088 can see if anything should be changed.
</p>
10090 <p>This is for Gnome:
</p>
10092 <p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p>
10095 apache2.2-bin aptdaemon at-spi baobab binfmt-support
10096 browser-plugin-gnash cheese-common cli-common cpp-
4.3 cups-pk-helper
10097 dmz-cursor-theme empathy empathy-common finger
10098 freedesktop-sound-theme freeglut3 gconf-defaults-service gdm-themes
10099 gedit-plugins geoclue geoclue-hostip geoclue-localnet geoclue-manual
10100 geoclue-yahoo gnash gnash-common gnome gnome-backgrounds
10101 gnome-cards-data gnome-codec-install gnome-core
10102 gnome-desktop-environment gnome-disk-utility gnome-screenshot
10103 gnome-search-tool gnome-session-canberra gnome-spell
10104 gnome-system-log gnome-themes-extras gnome-themes-more
10105 gnome-user-share gs-common gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
10106 gstreamer0.10-tools gtk2-engines gtk2-engines-pixbuf
10107 gtk2-engines-smooth hal-info hamster-applet libapache2-mod-dnssd
10108 libapr1 libaprutil1 libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap
10109 libart2.0-cil libatspi1.0-
0 libboost-date-time1.42
.0
10110 libboost-python1.42
.0 libboost-thread1.42
.0 libchamplain-
0.4-
0
10111 libchamplain-gtk-
0.4-
0 libcheese-gtk18 libclutter-gtk-
0.10-
0
10112 libcryptui0 libcupsys2 libdiscid0 libeel2-data libelf1 libepc-
1.0-
2
10113 libepc-common libepc-ui-
1.0-
2 libfreerdp-plugins-standard
10114 libfreerdp0 libgail-common libgconf2.0-cil libgdata-common libgdata7
10115 libgdl-
1-common libgdu-gtk0 libgee2 libgeoclue0 libgexiv2-
0 libgif4
10116 libglade2.0-cil libglib2.0-cil libgmime2.4-cil libgnome-vfs2.0-cil
10117 libgnome2.24-cil libgnomepanel2.24-cil libgnomeprint2.2-data
10118 libgnomeprintui2.2-common libgnomevfs2-bin libgpod-common libgpod4
10119 libgtk2.0-cil libgtkglext1 libgtksourceview-common
10120 libgtksourceview2.0-common libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil
10121 libmono-addins0.2-cil libmono-cairo2.0-cil libmono-corlib2.0-cil
10122 libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil libmono-posix2.0-cil
10123 libmono-security2.0-cil libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil
10124 libmono-system2.0-cil libmtp8 libmusicbrainz3-
6
10125 libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil libndesk-dbus1.0-cil libopal3.6
.8
10126 libpolkit-gtk-
1-
0 libpt-
1.10.10-plugins-alsa
10127 libpt-
1.10.10-plugins-v4l libpt2.6
.7 libpython2.6 librpm1 librpmio1
10128 libsdl1.2debian libservlet2.4-java libsrtp0 libssh-
4
10129 libtelepathy-farsight0 libtelepathy-glib0 libtidy-
0.99-
0
10130 libxalan2-java libxerces2-java media-player-info mesa-utils
10131 mono-
2.0-gac mono-gac mono-runtime nautilus-sendto
10132 nautilus-sendto-empathy openoffice.org-writer2latex
10133 openssl-blacklist p7zip p7zip-full pkg-config python-
4suite-xml
10134 python-aptdaemon python-aptdaemon-gtk python-axiom
10135 python-beautifulsoup python-bugbuddy python-clientform
10136 python-coherence python-configobj python-crypto python-cupshelpers
10137 python-cupsutils python-eggtrayicon python-elementtree
10138 python-epsilon python-evolution python-feedparser python-gdata
10139 python-gdbm python-gst0.10 python-gtkglext1 python-gtkmozembed
10140 python-gtksourceview2 python-httplib2 python-louie python-mako
10141 python-markupsafe python-mechanize python-nevow python-notify
10142 python-opengl python-openssl python-pam python-pkg-resources
10143 python-pyasn1 python-pysqlite2 python-rdflib python-serial
10144 python-tagpy python-twisted-bin python-twisted-conch
10145 python-twisted-core python-twisted-web python-utidylib python-webkit
10146 python-xdg python-zope.interface remmina remmina-plugin-data
10147 remmina-plugin-rdp remmina-plugin-vnc rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder
10148 rhythmbox-plugins rpm-common rpm2cpio seahorse-plugins shotwell
10149 software-center svgalibg1 system-config-printer-udev
10150 telepathy-gabble telepathy-mission-control-
5 telepathy-salut tomboy
10151 totem totem-coherence totem-mozilla totem-plugins
10152 transmission-common xdg-user-dirs xdg-user-dirs-gtk xserver-xephyr
10156 Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
10159 arj bluez-utils cheese dhcdbd djvulibre-desktop ekiga eog
10160 epiphany-extensions epiphany-gecko evolution-exchange
10161 fast-user-switch-applet file-roller gcalctool gconf-editor gdm gedit
10162 gedit-common gnome-app-install gnome-games gnome-games-data
10163 gnome-nettool gnome-system-tools gnome-themes gnome-utils
10164 gnome-vfs-obexftp gnome-volume-manager gnuchess gucharmap
10165 guile-
1.8-libs hal libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-core5
10166 libavahi-ui0 libbind9-
50 libbluetooth2 libcamel1.2-
11 libcdio7
10167 libcucul0 libcurl3 libdirectfb-
1.0-
0 libdmx1 libdvdread3
10168 libedata-cal1.2-
6 libedataserver1.2-
9 libeel2-
2.20 libepc-
1.0-
1
10169 libepc-ui-
1.0-
1 libexchange-storage1.2-
3 libfaad0 libgadu3
10170 libgalago3 libgd2-noxpm libgda3-
3 libgda3-common libggz2 libggzcore9
10171 libggzmod4 libgksu1.2-
0 libgksuui1.0-
1 libgmyth0 libgnome-desktop-
2
10172 libgnome-pilot2 libgnomecups1.0-
1 libgnomeprint2.2-
0
10173 libgnomeprintui2.2-
0 libgpod3 libgraphviz4 libgtk-vnc-
1.0-
0
10174 libgtkhtml2-
0 libgtksourceview1.0-
0 libgtksourceview2.0-
0
10175 libgucharmap6 libhesiod0 libicu38 libisccc50 libisccfg50 libiw29
10176 libjaxp1.3-java-gcj libkpathsea4 liblircclient0 libltdl3 liblwres50
10177 libmagick++
10 libmagick10 libmalaga7 libmozjs1d libmpfr1ldbl libmtp7
10178 libmysqlclient15off libnautilus-burn4 libneon27 libnm-glib0
10179 libnm-util0 libopal-
2.2 libosp5 libparted1.8-
10 libpisock9
10180 libpisync1 libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler3 libpt-
1.10.10 libraw1394-
8
10181 libsdl1.2debian-alsa libsensors3 libsexy2 libsmbios2 libsoup2.2-
8
10182 libspeexdsp1 libssh2-
1 libsuitesparse-
3.1.0 libsvga1
10183 libswfdec-
0.6-
90 libtalloc1 libtotem-plparser10 libtrackerclient0
10184 libvoikko1 libxalan2-java-gcj libxerces2-java-gcj libxklavier12
10185 libxtrap6 libxxf86misc1 libzephyr3 mysql-common rhythmbox seahorse
10186 sound-juicer swfdec-gnome system-config-printer totem-common
10187 totem-gstreamer transmission-gtk vinagre vino w3c-dtd-xhtml wodim
10190 <p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p>
10193 gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
10196 <p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p>
10202 <p>This is for KDE:
</p>
10204 <p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p>
10207 autopoint bomber bovo cantor cantor-backend-kalgebra cpp-
4.3 dcoprss
10208 edict espeak espeak-data eyesapplet fifteenapplet finger gettext
10209 ghostscript-x git gnome-audio gnugo granatier gs-common
10210 gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio indi kaddressbook-plugins kalgebra
10211 kalzium-data kanjidic kapman kate-plugins kblocks kbreakout kbstate
10212 kde-icons-mono kdeaccessibility kdeaddons-kfile-plugins
10213 kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-theme-window
10214 kdeedu kdeedu-data kdeedu-kvtml-data kdegames kdegames-card-data
10215 kdegames-mahjongg-data kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelirc
10216 kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdenetwork-kfile-plugins
10217 kdepim-kfile-plugins kdepim-kio-plugins kdessh kdetoys kdewebdev
10218 kdiamond kdnssd kfilereplace kfourinline kgeography-data kigo
10219 killbots kiriki klettres-data kmoon kmrml knewsticker-scripts
10220 kollision kpf krosspython ksirk ksmserver ksquares kstars-data
10221 ksudoku kubrick kweather libasound2-plugins libboost-python1.42
.0
10222 libcfitsio3 libconvert-binhex-perl libcrypt-ssleay-perl libdb4.6++
10223 libdjvulibre-text libdotconf1.0 liberror-perl libespeak1
10224 libfinance-quote-perl libgail-common libgsl0ldbl libhtml-parser-perl
10225 libhtml-tableextract-perl libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl
10226 libio-stringy-perl libkdeedu4 libkdegames5 libkiten4 libkpathsea5
10227 libkrossui4 libmailtools-perl libmime-tools-perl
10228 libnews-nntpclient-perl libopenbabel3 libportaudio2 libpulse-browse0
10229 libservlet2.4-java libspeechd2 libtiff-tools libtimedate-perl
10230 libunistring0 liburi-perl libwww-perl libxalan2-java libxerces2-java
10231 lirc luatex marble networkstatus noatun-plugins
10232 openoffice.org-writer2latex palapeli palapeli-data parley
10233 parley-data poster psutils pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat
10234 pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-utils quanta-data rocs rsync
10235 speech-dispatcher step svgalibg1 texlive-binaries texlive-luatex
10236 ttf-sazanami-gothic
10239 <p>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
</p>
10242 amor artsbuilder atlantik atlantikdesigner blinken bluez-utils cvs
10243 dhcdbd djvulibre-desktop imlib-base imlib11 kalzium kanagram kandy
10244 kasteroids katomic kbackgammon kbattleship kblackbox kbounce kbruch
10245 kcron kdat kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data kdeprint kdict kdvi kedit
10246 keduca kenolaba kfax kfaxview kfouleggs kgeography kghostview
10247 kgoldrunner khangman khexedit kiconedit kig kimagemapeditor
10248 kitchensync kiten kjumpingcube klatin klettres klickety klines
10249 klinkstatus kmag kmahjongg kmailcvt kmenuedit kmid kmilo kmines
10250 kmousetool kmouth kmplot knetwalk kodo kolf kommander konquest kooka
10251 kpager kpat kpdf kpercentage kpilot kpoker kpovmodeler krec
10252 kregexpeditor kreversi ksame ksayit kshisen ksig ksim ksirc ksirtet
10253 ksmiletris ksnake ksokoban kspaceduel kstars ksvg ksysv kteatime
10254 ktip ktnef ktouch ktron kttsd ktuberling kturtle ktux kuickshow
10255 kverbos kview kviewshell kvoctrain kwifimanager kwin kwin4 kwordquiz
10256 kworldclock kxsldbg libakode2 libarts1-akode libarts1-audiofile
10257 libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libavahi-compat-libdnssd1
10258 libavahi-core5 libavc1394-
0 libbind9-
50 libbluetooth2
10259 libboost-python1.34
.1 libcucul0 libcurl3 libcvsservice0
10260 libdirectfb-
1.0-
0 libdjvulibre21 libdvdread3 libfaad0 libfreebob0
10261 libgd2-noxpm libgraphviz4 libgsmme1c2a libgtkhtml2-
0 libicu38
10262 libiec61883-
0 libindex0 libisccc50 libisccfg50 libiw29
10263 libjaxp1.3-java-gcj libk3b3 libkcal2b libkcddb1 libkdeedu3
10264 libkdegames1 libkdepim1a libkgantt0 libkleopatra1 libkmime2
10265 libkpathsea4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libkscan1
10266 libksieve0 libktnef1 liblockdev1 libltdl3 liblwres50 libmagick10
10267 libmimelib1c2a libmodplug0c2 libmozjs1d libmpcdec3 libmpfr1ldbl
10268 libneon27 libnm-util0 libopensync0 libpisock9 libpoppler-glib3
10269 libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler3 libraw1394-
8 librss1 libsensors3
10270 libsmbios2 libssh2-
1 libsuitesparse-
3.1.0 libswfdec-
0.6-
90
10271 libtalloc1 libxalan2-java-gcj libxerces2-java-gcj libxtrap6 lskat
10272 mpeglib network-manager-kde noatun pmount tex-common texlive-base
10273 texlive-common texlive-doc-base texlive-fonts-recommended tidy
10274 ttf-dustin ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-sjfonts
10277 <p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p>
10280 dolphin kde-core kde-plasma-desktop kde-standard kde-window-manager
10281 kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-apps kdebase-workspace
10282 kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-data kdeutils kscreensaver
10283 kscreensaver-xsavers libgle3 libkonq5 libkonq5-templates libnetpbm10
10284 netpbm plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-networkmanagement
10285 xscreensaver-data-extra xscreensaver-gl xscreensaver-gl-extra
10286 xscreensaver-screensaver-bsod
10289 <p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p>
10292 kdebase-bin konq-plugins konqueror
10299 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
10304 <div class=
"padding"></div>
10306 <div class=
"entry">
10307 <div class=
"title">
10308 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gnash_buildbot_slave_and_Debian_kfreebsd.html">Gnash buildbot slave and Debian kfreebsd
</a>
10315 <a href=
"http://www.listware.net/201011/gnash-dev/67431-gnash-dev-buildbot-looking-for-slaves.html">the
10316 call from the Gnash project
</a> for
10317 <a href=
"http://www.gnashdev.org:8010">buildbot
</a> slaves to test the
10318 current source, I have set up a virtual KVM machine on the Debian
10319 Edu/Skolelinux virtualization host to test the git source on
10320 Debian/Squeeze. I hope this can help the developers in getting new
10321 releases out more often.
</p>
10323 <p>As the developers want less main-stream build platforms tested to,
10324 I have considered setting up a
<a
10325 href=
"http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/">Debian/kfreebsd
</a>
10326 machine as well. I have also considered using the kfreebsd
10327 architecture in Debian as a file server in NUUG to get access to the
5
10328 TB zfs volume we currently use to store DV video. Because of this, I
10329 finally got around to do a test installation of Debian/Squeeze with
10330 kfreebsd. Installation went fairly smooth, thought I noticed some
10331 visual glitches in the cdebconf dialogs (black cursor left on the
10332 screen at random locations). Have not gotten very far with the
10333 testing. Noticed cfdisk did not work, but fdisk did so it was not a
10334 fatal problem. Have to spend some more time on it to see if it is
10335 useful as a file server for NUUG. Will try to find time to set up a
10336 gnash buildbot slave on the Debian Edu/Skolelinux this weekend.
</p>
10342 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
10347 <div class=
"padding"></div>
10349 <div class=
"entry">
10350 <div class=
"title">
10351 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Making_room_on_the_Debian_Edu_Sqeeze_DVD.html">Making room on the Debian Edu/Sqeeze DVD
</a>
10357 <p>Prioritising packages for the Debian Edu /
10358 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a> DVD, which is
10359 supposed provide a school with all the services and user applications
10360 needed on the pupils computer network has always been hard. Even
10361 schools without Internet connections should be able to get Debian Edu
10362 working using this DVD.
</p>
10364 <p>The job became a lot harder when apt and aptitude started
10365 installing recommended packages by default. We want the same set of
10366 packages to be installed when using the DVD and the netinst CD, and
10367 that means all recommended packages need to be on the DVD. I created
10368 a patch for debian-cd in
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/601203">BTS
10369 report #
601203</a> to do this, and since this change was applied to
10370 the Debian Edu DVD build, we have been seriously short on space.
</p>
10372 <p>A few days ago we decided to drop blender, wxmaxima and kicad from
10373 the default installation to save space on the DVD, believing that
10374 those needing these applications are few and can get them from the
10375 Debian archive.
</p>
10377 <p>Yesterday, I had a look what source packages to see which packages
10378 were using most space. A few large packages are well know;
10379 openoffice.org, openclipart and fluid-soundfont. But I also
10380 discovered that lilypond used
106 MiB and fglrx-driver used
53 MiB.
10381 The lilypond package is pulled in as a dependency for rosegarden, and
10382 when looking a bit closer I discovered that
99 MiB of the
106 MiB were
10383 the documentation package, which is recommended by the binary package.
10384 I decided to drop this documentation package from our DVD, as most of
10385 our users will use the GUI front-ends and do not need the lilypond
10386 documentation. Similarly, I dropped the non-free fglrx-driver package
10387 which might be installed by d-i when its hardware is detected, as the
10388 free X driver should work.
</p>
10390 <p>With this change, we finally got space for the LXDE and Gnome
10391 desktop packages as well as the language specific packages making the
10392 DVD more useful again.
</p>
10398 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
10403 <div class=
"padding"></div>
10405 <div class=
"entry">
10406 <div class=
"title">
10407 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Software_updates_2010_10_24.html">Software updates
2010-
10-
24</a>
10413 <p>Some updates.
</p>
10415 <p>My
<a href=
"http://pledgebank.com/gnash-avm2">gnash pledge
</a> to
10416 raise money for the project is going well. The lower limit of
10
10417 signers was reached in
24 hours, and so far
13 people have signed it.
10418 More signers and more funding is most welcome, and I am really curious
10419 how far we can get before the time limit of December
24 is reached.
10422 <p>On the #gnash IRC channel on irc.freenode.net, I was just tipped
10423 about what appear to be a great code coverage tool capable of
10424 generating code coverage stats without any changes to the source code.
10426 <a href=
"http://simonkagstrom.github.com/kcov/index.html">kcov
</a>,
10427 and can be used using
<tt>kcov
<directory
> <binary
></tt>.
10428 It is missing in Debian, but the git source built just fine in Squeeze
10429 after I installed libelf-dev, libdwarf-dev, pkg-config and
10430 libglib2.0-dev. Failed to build in Lenny, but suspect that is
10431 solvable. I hope kcov make it into Debian soon.
</p>
10433 <p>Finally found time to wrap up the release notes for
<a
10434 href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu-announce/2010/10/msg00002.html">a
10435 new alpha release of Debian Edu
</a>, and just published the second
10436 alpha test release of the Squeeze based Debian Edu /
10437 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a>
10438 release. Give it a try if you need a complete linux solution for your
10439 school, including central infrastructure server, workstations, thin
10440 client servers and diskless workstations. A nice touch added
10441 yesterday is RDP support on the thin client servers, for windows
10442 clients to get a Linux desktop on request.
</p>
10448 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia
</a>.
10453 <div class=
"padding"></div>
10455 <div class=
"entry">
10456 <div class=
"title">
10457 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Some_notes_on_Flash_in_Debian_and_Debian_Edu.html">Some notes on Flash in Debian and Debian Edu
</a>
10463 <p>In the
<a href=
"http://popcon.debian.org/unknown/by_vote">Debian
10464 popularity-contest numbers
</a>, the adobe-flashplugin package the
10465 second most popular used package that is missing in Debian. The sixth
10466 most popular is flashplayer-mozilla. This is a clear indication that
10467 working flash is important for Debian users. Around
10 percent of the
10468 users submitting data to popcon.debian.org have this package
10471 <p>In the report written by Lars Risan in August
2008
10472 («
<a href=
"http://wiki.skolelinux.no/Dokumentasjon/Rapporter?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Skolelinux_i_bruk_rapport_1.0.pdf">Skolelinux
10473 i bruk – Rapport for Hurum kommune, Universitetet i Agder og
10474 stiftelsen SLX Debian Labs
</a>»), one of the most important problems
10475 schools experienced with
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian
10476 Edu/Skolelinux
</a> was the lack of working Flash. A lot of educational
10477 web sites require Flash to work, and lacking working Flash support in
10478 the web browser and the problems with installing it was perceived as a
10479 good reason to stay with Windows.
</p>
10481 <p>I once saw a funny and sad comment in a web forum, where Linux was
10482 said to be the retarded cousin that did not really understand
10483 everything you told him but could work fairly well. This was a
10484 comment regarding the problems Linux have with proprietary formats and
10485 non-standard web pages, and is sad because it exposes a fairly common
10486 understanding of whose fault it is if web pages that only work in for
10487 example Internet Explorer
6 fail to work on Firefox, and funny because
10488 it explain very well how annoying it is for users when Linux
10489 distributions do not work with the documents they receive or the web
10490 pages they want to visit.
</p>
10492 <p>This is part of the reason why I believe it is important for Debian
10493 and Debian Edu to have a well working Flash implementation in the
10494 distribution, to get at least popular sites as Youtube and Google
10495 Video to working out of the box. For Squeeze, Debian have the chance
10496 to include the latest version of Gnash that will make this happen, as
10497 the new release
0.8.8 was published a few weeks ago and is resting in
10498 unstable. The new version work with more sites that version
0.8.7.
10499 The Gnash maintainers have asked for a freeze exception, but the
10500 release team have not had time to reply to it yet. I hope they agree
10501 with me that Flash is important for the Debian desktop users, and thus
10502 accept the new package into Squeeze.
</p>
10508 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web
</a>.
10513 <div class=
"padding"></div>
10515 <div class=
"entry">
10516 <div class=
"title">
10517 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Broken_hard_link_handling_with_sshfs.html">Broken hard link handling with sshfs
</a>
10523 <p>Just got an email from Tobias Gruetzmacher as a followup on my
10524 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Broken_umask_handling_with_sshfs.html">previous
10525 post about sshfs
</a>. He reported another problem with sshfs. It
10526 fail to handle hard links properly. A simple way to spot this is to
10527 look at the . and .. entries in the directory tree. These should have
10528 a link count
>1, but on sshfs the count is
1. I just tested to see
10529 what happen when trying to hardlink, and this fail as well:
</p>
10533 ln: creating hard link `bar' =
> `foo': Function not implemented
10537 <p>I have not yet found time to implement a test for this in my file
10538 system test code, but believe having working hard links is useful to
10539 avoid surprised unix programs. Not as useful as working file locking
10540 and symlinks, which are required to get a working desktop, but useful
10541 nevertheless. :)
</p>
10543 <p>The latest version of the file system test code is available via
10545 <a href=
"http://github.com/gebi/fs-test">http://github.com/gebi/fs-test
</a></p>
10551 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
10556 <div class=
"padding"></div>
10558 <div class=
"entry">
10559 <div class=
"title">
10560 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_i_Osloskolen.html">Skolelinux i Osloskolen
</a>
10566 <p>Denne høsten skal endelig alle Osloskolene få mulighet til å bruke
10567 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a>. Ny IT-løsning
10568 har vært rullet ut i noen måneder nå, og så vidt jeg fikk vite før
10569 sommeren skulle alle skoler ha nytt opplegg på plass før oppstart nå i
10570 høst. På alle skolene skal en kunne velge ved installasjon om en skal
10571 ha Windows eller Skolelinux på maskinene, og en kan i tillegg
10572 PXE-boote maskinene over nett som tynne klienter eller diskløse
10573 arbeidsstasjoner. Jeg er spent på hvor mange skoler som velger å ta i
10574 bruk Skolelinux, og gleder meg til å se hvordan dette utvikler seg.
10575 Løsningen leveres av
10576 <a href=
"http://www.logica.no/">Logica
</a> med
10577 <a href=
"http://www.slxdrift.no/">Skolelinux Drift AS
</a> som
10578 underleverandør, og jeg har vært involvert i utviklingen av løsningen
10579 via Skolelinux Drift AS siden prosjektet starter. Jeg synes det er
10580 fantastisk at Skolelinux er kommet så langt siden vi startet i
2001 at
10581 alle elevene i Osloskolene nå skal få mulighet til å bruke
10582 løsningen. Jeg håper de vil sette pris på alle de
10583 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.no/linux-signpost/">fantastiske
10584 brukerprogrammene
</a> som er tilgjengelig i Skolelinux.
</p>
10590 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
10595 <div class=
"padding"></div>
10597 <div class=
"entry">
10598 <div class=
"title">
10599 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Broken_umask_handling_with_sshfs.html">Broken umask handling with sshfs
</a>
10605 <p>My file system sematics program
10606 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Testing_if_a_file_system_can_be_used_for_home_directories___.html">presented
10607 a few days ago
</a> is very useful to verify that a file system can
10608 work as a unix home directory,and today I had to extend it a bit. I'm
10609 looking into alternatives for home directory access here at the
10610 University of Oslo, and one of the options is sshfs. My friend
10611 Finn-Arne mentioned a while back that they had used sshfs with Debian
10612 Edu, but stopped because of problems. I asked today what the problems
10613 where, and he mentioned that sshfs failed to handle umask properly.
10614 Trying to detect the problem I wrote this addition to my fs testing
10618 mode_t touch_get_mode(const char *name, mode_t mode) {
10620 int fd = open(name, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_LARGEFILE, mode);
10623 struct stat statbuf;
10624 if (-
1 != fstat(fd, &statbuf)) {
10625 retval = statbuf.st_mode &
0x1ff;
10632 /* Try to detect problem discovered using sshfs */
10633 int test_umask(void) {
10634 printf("info: testing umask effect on file creation\n");
10636 mode_t orig_umask = umask(
000);
10638 if (
0666 != (newmode = touch_get_mode("foobar",
0666))) {
10639 printf(" error: Wrong file mode %o when creating using mode
666 and umask
000\n",
10643 if (
0660 != (newmode = touch_get_mode("foobar",
0666))) {
10644 printf(" error: Wrong file mode %o when creating using mode
666 and umask
007\n",
10648 umask (orig_umask);
10652 int main(int argc, char **argv) {
10659 <p>Sure enough. On NFS to a netapp, I get this result:
</p>
10662 Testing POSIX/Unix sematics on file system
10663 info: testing symlink creation
10664 info: testing subdirectory creation
10665 info: testing fcntl locking
10666 Read-locking
1 byte from
1073741824
10667 Read-locking
510 byte from
1073741826
10668 Unlocking
1 byte from
1073741824
10669 Write-locking
1 byte from
1073741824
10670 Write-locking
510 byte from
1073741826
10671 Unlocking
2 byte from
1073741824
10672 info: testing umask effect on file creation
10675 <p>When mounting the same directory using sshfs, I get this
10679 Testing POSIX/Unix sematics on file system
10680 info: testing symlink creation
10681 info: testing subdirectory creation
10682 info: testing fcntl locking
10683 Read-locking
1 byte from
1073741824
10684 Read-locking
510 byte from
1073741826
10685 Unlocking
1 byte from
1073741824
10686 Write-locking
1 byte from
1073741824
10687 Write-locking
510 byte from
1073741826
10688 Unlocking
2 byte from
1073741824
10689 info: testing umask effect on file creation
10690 error: Wrong file mode
644 when creating using mode
666 and umask
000
10691 error: Wrong file mode
640 when creating using mode
666 and umask
007
10694 <p>So, I can conclude that sshfs is better than smb to a Netapp or a
10695 Windows server, but not good enough to be used as a home
10698 <p>Update
2010-
08-
26: Reported the issue in
10699 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/594498">BTS report #
594498</a></p>
10701 <p>Update
2010-
08-
27: Michael Gebetsroither report that he found the
10702 script so useful that he created a GIT repository and stored it in
10703 <a href=
"http://github.com/gebi/fs-test">http://github.com/gebi/fs-test
</a>.
</p>
10709 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
10714 <div class=
"padding"></div>
10716 <div class=
"entry">
10717 <div class=
"title">
10718 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/No_hardcoded_config_on_Debian_Edu_clients.html">No hardcoded config on Debian Edu clients
</a>
10724 <p>As reported earlier, the last few days I have looked at how Debian
10725 Edu clients are configured, and tried to get rid of all hardcoded
10726 configuration settings on the clients. I believe the work to be
10727 mostly done, and the clients seem to work just fine with dynamically
10728 generated configuration.
</p>
10730 <p>What is the point, you might ask? The point is to allow a Debian
10731 Edu desktop to integrate into an existing network infrastructure
10732 without any manual configuration.
</p>
10734 <p>This is what happens when installing a Debian Edu client here at
10735 the University of Oslo using PXE. With the PXE installation, I am
10736 asked for language (Norwegian Bokmål), locality (Norway) and keyboard
10737 layout (no-latin1), Debian Edu profile (Roaming Workstation), if I
10738 accept to reformat the hard drive (yes), if I want to submit info to
10739 popcon.debian.org (no) and root password (secret). After answering
10740 these questions, the installer goes ahead and does its thing, and
10741 after around
50 minutes it is done. I press enter to finish the
10742 installation, and the machine reboots into KDE. When the machine is
10743 ready and kdm asks for login information, I enter my university
10744 username and password, am told by kdm that a local home directory has
10745 been created and that I must log in again, and finally log in with the
10746 same username and password to the KDE
4.4 desktop. At no point during
10747 this process did it ask for university specific settings, and all the
10748 required configuration was dynamically detected using information
10749 fetched via DHCP and DNS. The roaming workstation is now ready for
10752 <p>How was this done, you might wonder? First of all, here is the
10753 list of things that need to be configured on the client to get it
10754 working properly out of the box:
</p>
10757 <li>IP address/netmask and DNS server.
</li>
10758 <li>Web proxy URL.
</li>
10759 <li>LDAP server for NSS directory information (user, group, etc).
</li>
10760 <li>Kerberos server for PAM password checking.
</li>
10761 <li>SMB mount point to access the network home directory. (*)
</li>
10762 <li>Central syslog server to send syslog messages to. (*)
</li>
10763 <li>Sitesummary collector URL to submit info to central server. (*)
</li>
10766 <p>(Hm, did I forget anything? Let me knew if I did.)
</p>
10768 <p>The points marked (*) are not required to be able to use the
10769 machine, but needed to provide central storage and allowing system
10770 administrators to track their machines. Since yesterday, everything
10771 but the sitesummary collector URL is dynamically discovered at boot
10772 and installation time in the svn version of Debian Edu.
</p>
10774 <p>The IP and DNS setup is fetched during boot using DHCP as usual.
10775 When a DHCP update arrives, the proxy setup is updated by looking for
10776 http://wpat/wpad.dat and using the content of this WPAD file to
10777 configure the http and ftp proxy in /etc/environment and
10778 /etc/apt/apt.conf. I decided to update the proxy setup using a DHCP
10779 hook to ensure that the client stops using the Debian Edu proxy when
10780 it is moved outside the Debian Edu network, and instead uses any local
10781 proxy present on the new network when it moves around.
</p>
10783 <p>The DNS names of the LDAP, Kerberos and syslog server and related
10784 configuration are generated using DNS information at boot. First the
10785 installer looks for a host named ldap in the current DNS domain. If
10786 not found, it looks for _ldap._tcp SRV records in DNS instead. If an
10787 LDAP server is found, its root DSE entry is requested and the
10788 attributes namingContexts and defaultNamingContext are used to
10789 determine which LDAP base to use for NSS. If there are several
10790 namingContexts attibutes and the defaultNamingContext is present, that
10791 LDAP subtree is used as the base. If defaultNamingContext is missing,
10792 the subtrees listed as namingContexts are searched in sequence for any
10793 object with class posixAccount or posixGroup, and the first one with
10794 such an object is used as the LDAP base. For Kerberos, a similar
10795 search is done by first looking for a host named kerberos, and then
10796 for the _kerberos._tcp SRV record. I've been unable to find a way to
10797 look up the Kerberos realm, so for this the upper case string of the
10798 current DNS domain is used.
</p>
10800 <p>For the syslog server, the hosts syslog and loghost are searched
10801 for, and the _syslog._udp SRV record is consulted if no such host is
10802 found. This algorithm works for both Debian Edu and the University of
10803 Oslo. A similar strategy would work for locating the sitesummary
10804 server, but have not been implemented yet. I decided to fetch and
10805 save these settings during installation, to make sure moving to a
10806 different network does not change the set of users being allowed to
10807 log in nor the passwords required to log in. Usernames and passwords
10808 will be cached by sssd when the user logs in on the Debian Edu
10809 network, and will not change as the laptop move around. For a
10810 non-roaming machine, there is no caching, but given that it is
10811 supposed to stay in place it should not matter much. Perhaps we
10812 should switch those to use sssd too?
</p>
10814 <p>The user's SMB mount point for the network home directory is
10815 located when the user logs in for the first time. The LDAP server is
10816 consulted to look for the user's LDAP object and the sambaHomePath
10817 attribute is used if found. If it isn't found, the home directory
10818 path fetched from NSS is used instead. Assuming the path is of the
10819 form /site/server/directory/username, the second part is looked up in
10820 DNS and used to generate a SMB URL of the form
10821 smb://server.domain/username. This algorithm works for both Debian
10822 edu and the University of Oslo. Perhaps there are better attributes
10823 to use or a better algorithm that works for more sites, but this will
10826 <p>This work should make it easier to integrate the Debian Edu clients
10827 into any LDAP/Kerberos infrastructure, and make the current setup even
10828 more flexible than before. I suspect it will also work for thin
10829 client servers, allowing one to easily set up LTSP and hook it into a
10830 existing network infrastructure, but I have not had time to test this
10833 <p>If you want to help out with implementing these things for Debian
10834 Edu, please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p>
10836 <p>Update
2010-
08-
09: Simon Farnsworth gave me a heads-up on how to
10837 detect Kerberos realm from DNS, by looking for _kerberos TXT entries
10838 before falling back to the upper case DNS domain name. Will have to
10839 implement it for Debian Edu. :)
</p>
10845 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
10850 <div class=
"padding"></div>
10852 <div class=
"entry">
10853 <div class=
"title">
10854 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Testing_if_a_file_system_can_be_used_for_home_directories___.html">Testing if a file system can be used for home directories...
</a>
10860 <p>A few years ago, I was involved in a project planning to use
10861 Windows file servers as home directory servers for Debian
10862 Edu/Skolelinux machines. This was thought to be no problem, as the
10863 access would be through the SMB network file system protocol, and we
10864 knew other sites used SMB with unix and samba as the file server to
10865 mount home directories without any problems. But, after months of
10866 struggling, we had to conclude that our goal was impossible.
</p>
10868 <p>The reason is simply that while SMB can be used for home
10869 directories when the file server is Samba running on Unix, this only
10870 work because of Samba have some extensions and the fact that the
10871 underlying file system is a unix file system. When using a Windows
10872 file server, the underlying file system do not have POSIX semantics,
10873 and several programs will fail if the users home directory where they
10874 want to store their configuration lack POSIX semantics.
</p>
10876 <p>As part of this work, I wrote a small C program I want to share
10877 with you all, to replicate a few of the problematic applications (like
10878 OpenOffice.org and GCompris) and see if the file system was working as
10879 it should. If you find yourself in spooky file system land, it might
10880 help you find your way out again. This is the fs-test.c source:
</p>
10884 * Some tests to check the file system sematics. Used to verify that
10885 * CIFS from a windows server do not work properly as a linux home
10887 * License: GPL v2 or later
10889 * needs libsqlite3-dev and build-essential installed
10890 * compile with: gcc -Wall -lsqlite3 -DTEST_SQLITE fs-test.c -o fs-test
10893 #define _FILE_OFFSET_BITS
64
10894 #define _LARGEFILE_SOURCE
1
10895 #define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE
1
10897 #define _GNU_SOURCE /* for asprintf() */
10899 #include
<errno.h
>
10900 #include
<fcntl.h
>
10901 #include
<stdio.h
>
10902 #include
<string.h
>
10903 #include
<stdlib.h
>
10904 #include
<sys/file.h
>
10905 #include
<sys/stat.h
>
10906 #include
<sys/types.h
>
10907 #include
<unistd.h
>
10911 * Test sqlite open, as done by gcompris require the libsqlite3-dev
10912 * package and linking with -lsqlite3. A more low level test is
10914 * See also
<URL: http://www.sqlite.org./faq.html#q5
>.
10916 #include
<sqlite3.h
>
10917 #define CREATE_TABLE_USERS \
10918 "CREATE TABLE users (user_id INT UNIQUE, login TEXT, lastname TEXT, firstname TEXT, birthdate TEXT, class_id INT ); "
10919 int test_sqlite_open(void) {
10921 char *name = "testsqlite.db";
10924 int rc = sqlite3_open(name, &db);
10926 printf("error: sqlite open of %s failed: %s\n", name, sqlite3_errmsg(db));
10931 /* create tables */
10932 rc = sqlite3_exec(db,CREATE_TABLE_USERS, NULL,
0, &zErrMsg);
10933 if( rc != SQLITE_OK ){
10934 printf("error: sqlite table create failed: %s\n", zErrMsg);
10938 printf("info: sqlite worked\n");
10942 #endif /* TEST_SQLITE */
10945 * Demonstrate locking issue found in gcompris using sqlite3. This
10946 * work with ext3, but not with cifs server on Windows
2003. This is
10947 * done in the sqlite3 library.
10949 *
<URL:http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/
2001-
08/msg00854.html
> and the
10950 * POSIX specification
10951 *
<URL:http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/
009695399/functions/fcntl.html
>.
10953 int test_gcompris_locking(void) {
10955 char *name = "testsqlite.db";
10957 int fd = open(name, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_LARGEFILE,
0644);
10958 printf("info: testing fcntl locking\n");
10960 fl.l_whence = SEEK_SET;
10961 fl.l_pid = getpid();
10962 printf(" Read-locking
1 byte from
1073741824");
10963 fl.l_start =
1073741824;
10965 fl.l_type = F_RDLCK;
10966 if (
0 != fcntl(fd, F_SETLK, &fl) ) printf(" - error!\n"); else printf("\n");
10968 printf(" Read-locking
510 byte from
1073741826");
10969 fl.l_start =
1073741826;
10971 fl.l_type = F_RDLCK;
10972 if (
0 != fcntl(fd, F_SETLK, &fl) ) printf(" - error!\n"); else printf("\n");
10974 printf(" Unlocking
1 byte from
1073741824");
10975 fl.l_start =
1073741824;
10977 fl.l_type = F_UNLCK;
10978 if (
0 != fcntl(fd, F_SETLK, &fl) ) printf(" - error!\n"); else printf("\n");
10980 printf(" Write-locking
1 byte from
1073741824");
10981 fl.l_start =
1073741824;
10983 fl.l_type = F_WRLCK;
10984 if (
0 != fcntl(fd, F_SETLK, &fl) ) printf(" - error!\n"); else printf("\n");
10986 printf(" Write-locking
510 byte from
1073741826");
10987 fl.l_start =
1073741826;
10989 if (
0 != fcntl(fd, F_SETLK, &fl) ) printf(" - error!\n"); else printf("\n");
10991 printf(" Unlocking
2 byte from
1073741824");
10992 fl.l_start =
1073741824;
10994 fl.l_type = F_UNLCK;
10995 if (
0 != fcntl(fd, F_SETLK, &fl) ) printf(" - error!\n"); else printf("\n");
11002 * Test if permissions of freshly created directories allow entries
11003 * below them. This was a problem with OpenOffice.org and gcompris.
11004 * Mounting with option 'sync' seem to solve this problem while
11005 * slowing down file operations.
11007 int test_subdirectory_creation(void) {
11009 char *path = strdup("test");
11010 char *dirs[LEVELS];
11012 printf("info: testing subdirectory creation\n");
11013 for (level =
0; level
< LEVELS; level++) {
11014 char *newpath = NULL;
11015 if (-
1 == mkdir(path,
0777)) {
11016 printf(" error: Unable to create directory '%s': %s\n",
11017 path, strerror(errno));
11020 asprintf(&newpath, "%s/%s", path, "test");
11028 * Test if symlinks can be created. This was a problem detected with
11031 int test_symlinks(void) {
11032 printf("info: testing symlink creation\n");
11034 if (-
1 == symlink("file", "symlink"))
11035 printf(" error: Unable to create symlink\n");
11039 int main(int argc, char **argv) {
11040 printf("Testing POSIX/Unix sematics on file system\n");
11042 test_subdirectory_creation();
11044 test_sqlite_open();
11045 #endif /* TEST_SQLITE */
11046 test_gcompris_locking();
11051 <p>When everything is working, it should print something like
11055 Testing POSIX/Unix sematics on file system
11056 info: testing symlink creation
11057 info: testing subdirectory creation
11058 info: sqlite worked
11059 info: testing fcntl locking
11060 Read-locking
1 byte from
1073741824
11061 Read-locking
510 byte from
1073741826
11062 Unlocking
1 byte from
1073741824
11063 Write-locking
1 byte from
1073741824
11064 Write-locking
510 byte from
1073741826
11065 Unlocking
2 byte from
1073741824
11068 <p>I do not remember the exact details of the problems we saw, but one
11069 of them was with locking, where if I remember correctly, POSIX allow a
11070 read-only lock to be upgraded to a read-write lock without unlocking
11071 the read-only lock (while Windows do not). Another was a bug in the
11072 CIFS/SMB client implementation in the Linux kernel where directory
11073 meta information would be wrong for a fraction of a second, making
11074 OpenOffice.org fail to create its deep directory tree because it was
11075 not allowed to create files in its freshly created directory.
</p>
11077 <p>Anyway, here is a nice tool for your tool box, might you never need
11080 <p>Update
2010-
08-
27: Michael Gebetsroither report that he found the
11081 script so useful that he created a GIT repository and stored it in
11082 <a href=
"http://github.com/gebi/fs-test">http://github.com/gebi/fs-test
</a>.
</p>
11088 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
11093 <div class=
"padding"></div>
11095 <div class=
"entry">
11096 <div class=
"title">
11097 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Autodetecting_Client_setup_for_roaming_workstations_in_Debian_Edu.html">Autodetecting Client setup for roaming workstations in Debian Edu
</a>
11103 <p>A few days ago, I
11104 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_roaming_workstation___at_the_university_of_Oslo.html">tried
11105 to install
</a> a Roaming workation profile from Debian Edu/Squeeze
11106 while on the university network here at the University of Oslo, and
11107 noticed how much had to change to get it operational using the
11108 university infrastructure. It was fairly easy, but it occured to me
11109 that Debian Edu would improve a lot if I could get the client to
11110 connect without any changes at all, and thus let the client configure
11111 itself during installation and first boot to use the infrastructure
11112 around it. Now I am a huge step further along that road.
</p>
11114 <p>With our current squeeze-test packages, I can select the roaming
11115 workstation profile and get a working laptop connecting to the
11116 university LDAP server for user and group and our active directory
11117 servers for Kerberos authentication. All this without any
11118 configuration at all during installation. My users home directory got
11119 a bookmark in the KDE menu to mount it via SMB, with the correct URL.
11120 In short, openldap and sssd is correctly configured. In addition to
11121 this, the client look for http://wpad/wpad.dat to configure a web
11122 proxy, and when it fail to find it no proxy settings are stored in
11123 /etc/environment and /etc/apt/apt.conf. Iceweasel and KDE is
11124 configured to look for the same wpad configuration and also do not use
11125 a proxy when at the university network. If the machine is moved to a
11126 network with such wpad setup, it would automatically use it when DHCP
11127 gave it a IP address.
</p>
11129 <p>The LDAP server is located using DNS, by first looking for the DNS
11130 entry ldap.$domain. If this do not exist, it look for the
11131 _ldap._tcp.$domain SRV records and use the first one as the LDAP
11132 server. Next, it connects to the LDAP server and search all
11133 namingContexts entries for posixAccount or posixGroup objects, and
11134 pick the first one as the LDAP base. For Kerberos, a similar
11135 algorithm is used to locate the LDAP server, and the realm is the
11136 uppercase version of $domain.
</p>
11138 <p>So, what is not working, you might ask. SMB mounting my home
11139 directory do not work. No idea why, but suspected the incorrect
11140 Kerberos settings in /etc/krb5.conf and /etc/samba/smb.conf might be
11141 the cause. These are not properly configured during installation, and
11142 had to be hand-edited to get the correct Kerberos realm and server,
11143 but SMB mounting still do not work. :(
</p>
11145 <p>With this automatic configuration in place, I expect a Debian Edu
11146 roaming profile installation would be able to automatically detect and
11147 connect to any site using LDAP and Kerberos for NSS directory and PAM
11148 authentication. It should also work out of the box in a Active
11149 Directory environment providing posixAccount and posixGroup objects
11150 with UID and GID values.
</p>
11152 <p>If you want to help out with implementing these things for Debian
11153 Edu, please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p>
11159 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
11164 <div class=
"padding"></div>
11166 <div class=
"entry">
11167 <div class=
"title">
11168 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_roaming_workstation___at_the_university_of_Oslo.html">Debian Edu roaming workstation - at the university of Oslo
</a>
11174 <p>The new roaming workstation profile in Debian Edu/Squeeze is fairly
11175 similar to the laptop setup am I working on using Ubuntu for the
11176 University of Oslo, and just for the heck of it, I tested today how
11177 hard it would be to integrate that profile into the university
11178 infrastructure. In this case, it is the university LDAP server,
11179 Active Directory Kerberos server and SMB mounting from the Netapp file
11182 <p>I was pleasantly surprised that the only three files needed to be
11183 changed (/etc/sssd/sssd.conf, /etc/ldap.conf and
11184 /etc/mklocaluser.d/
20-debian-edu-config) and one file had to be added
11185 (/usr/share/perl5/Debian/Edu_Local.pm), to get the client working.
11186 Most of the changes were to get the client to use the university LDAP
11187 for NSS and Kerberos server for PAM, but one was to change a hard
11188 coded DNS domain name in the mklocaluser hook from .intern to
11191 <p>This testing was so encouraging, that I went ahead and adjusted the
11192 Debian Edu scripts and setup in subversion to centralise the roaming
11193 workstation setup a bit more and avoid the hardcoded DNS domain name,
11194 so that when I test this tomorrow, I expect to get away with modifying
11195 only /etc/sssd/sssd.conf and /etc/ldap.conf to get it to use the
11196 university servers.
</p>
11198 <p>My goal is to get the clients to have no hardcoded settings and
11199 fetch all their initial setup during installation and first boot, to
11200 allow them to be inserted also into environments where the default
11201 setup in Debian Edu has been changed or as with the university, where
11202 the environment is different but provides the protocols Debian Edu
11209 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
11214 <div class=
"padding"></div>
11216 <div class=
"entry">
11217 <div class=
"title">
11218 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/First_Debian_Edu_test_release__alpha0__based_on_Squeeze_is_released.html">First Debian Edu test release (alpha0) based on Squeeze is released
</a>
11224 <p>I just posted this announcement culminating several months of work
11225 with the next Debian Edu release. Not nearly done, but one major step
11229 <p>This is the first test release based on Squeeze. The focus of this
11230 release is to test the user application selection. To have a look,
11231 install the standalone profile and let the developers know if the set
11232 of installed packages i.e. applications should be modified. If some
11233 user application is missing, or if there are some applications that no
11234 longer make sense to be included in Debian Edu, please let us know.
11235 Also, if a useful application is missing the translation for your
11236 language of choice, please let us know too.
</p>
11238 <p>In addition, feedback and help to polish the desktop (menus,
11239 artwork, starters, etc.) is appreciated. We would like to ship a nice
11240 and handy KDE4 desktop targeted for schools out of the box.
</p>
11242 <p>The other profiles should be installable, but there is a lot more
11243 work left to be done before they are ready, so do not expect to
11246 <p>Changes compared to the lenny based version
</p>
11249 <li>Everything from Debian Squeeze
11251 <li>Desktop environment KDE
4.4 =
> the new KDE desktop in
11252 combination with some new artwork
11253 <li>Web browser Iceweasel
3.5
11254 <li>OpenOffice.org
3.2
11255 <li>Educational toolbox GCompris
9.3
11256 <li>Music creator Rosegarden
10.04.2
11257 <li>Image editor Gimp
2.6.10
11258 <li>Virtual universe Celestia
1.6.0
11259 <li>Virtual stargazer Stellarium
0.10.4
11260 <li>3D modeler Blender
2.49.2 (new application)
11261 <li>Video editor Kdenlive
0.7.7 (new application)
11263 <li>Now using Kerberos for password checking (migration not finished).
11269 <li>SMTP (sender verification)
11272 <li>New experimental roaming workstation profile for laptops.
</li>
11273 <li>Show welcome page to users when they first log in. The URL is
11274 fetched from LDAP.
</li>
11275 <li>New LXDE desktop option, in addition to KDE (default) and Gnome.
</li>
11276 <li>General cleanup (not finished)
</li>
11278 <p>The following features are not working as they should
</p>
11281 <li>No web based administration tool for creating users and groups. The
11282 scripts ldap-createuser-krb and ldap-add-user-to-group can be used
11284 <li>DVD installs are missing debian-installer images for the PXE boot,
11285 and do not set up the PXE menu on eth0 because of this. LTSP
11286 clients should still boot from eth1 on thin client servers.
</li>
11287 <li>The restructured KDE menu is not implemented.
</li>
11288 <li>The LDAP server setup need to be reviewed for security.
</li>
11289 <li>The LDAP directory structure need to be reworked.
</li>
11290 <li>Different sets of packages are installed when using the DVD and the
11291 netinst CD. More packages are installed using the netinst CD.
</li>
11292 <li>The jackd package fail to install. This is believed to be caused by
11293 some ongoing transition, and hopefully should be solved soon. The
11294 jackd1 package can be installed manually for those that need it.
</li>
11295 <li>Some packages lack translations. See
11296 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Status/Squeeze for updated status,
11297 and help out with translations.
</li>
11300 <p>To download this multiarch netinstall release you can use
</p>
11303 <li><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-6.0.0+edua0-CD.iso">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-CD.iso
</a></li>
11304 <li><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-6.0.0+edua0-CD.iso">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-CD.iso
</a></li>
11305 <li>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-CD.iso
</li>
11307 <p>To download this multiarch dvd release you can use
</p>
11310 <li><a href=
"ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-6.0.0+edua0-DVD.iso">ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-DVD.iso
</a></li>
11311 <li><a href=
"http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-6.0.0+edua0-DVD.iso">http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-DVD.iso
</a></li>
11312 <li>rsync -avzP ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/squeeze-alpha/debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-DVD.iso
</li>
11315 <p>There is no source DVD available yet. It will be prepared when we
11316 get closer to the final release.
</p>
11318 <p>The MD5SUM of these images are
</p>
11321 <li>3dbf45d59f42a53518b6e3c9ec3b5eb6 debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-CD.iso
</li>
11322 <li>22f2cbfce281d1c6e478be452638675d debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-DVD.iso
</li>
11325 <p>The SHA1SUM of these images are
</p>
11327 <li>c53d1b69b40cf37cd27aefaf33f6f6a3821bedf0 debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-CD.iso
</li>
11328 <li>2ec29d7db676d59d32197b05c277ffe16348376c debian-edu-
6.0.0+edua0-DVD.iso
</li>
11330 <p>How to report bugs:
11331 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ReportBugsInBugzilla
</p>
11333 <p>Please direct replies to debian-edu@lists.debian.org
</p>
11340 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
11345 <div class=
"padding"></div>
11347 <div class=
"entry">
11348 <div class=
"title">
11349 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/One_step_closer_to_single_signon_in_Debian_Edu.html">One step closer to single signon in Debian Edu
</a>
11355 <p>The last few months me and the other Debian Edu developers have
11356 been working hard to get the Debian/Squeeze based version of Debian
11357 Edu/Skolelinux into shape. This future version will use Kerberos for
11358 authentication, and services are slowly migrated to single signon,
11359 getting rid of password questions one at the time.
</p>
11361 <p>It will also feature a roaming workstation profile with local home
11362 directory, for laptops that are only some times on the Skolelinux
11363 network, and for this profile a shortcut is created in Gnome and KDE
11364 to gain access to the users home directory on the file server. This
11365 shortcut uses SMB at the moment, and yesterday I had time to test if
11366 SMB mounting had started working in KDE after we added the cifs-utils
11367 package. I was pleasantly surprised how well it worked.
</p>
11369 <p>Thanks to the recent changes to our samba configuration to get it
11370 to use Kerberos for authentication, there were no question about user
11371 password when mounting the SMB volume. A simple click on the shortcut
11372 in the KDE menu, and a window with the home directory popped
11375 <p>One step closer to a single signon solution out of the box in
11376 Debian Edu. We already had PAM, LDAP, IMAP and SMTP in place, and now
11377 also Samba. Next step is Cups and hopefully also NFS.
</p>
11379 <p>We had planned a alpha0 release of Debian Edu for today, but thanks
11380 to the autobuilder administrators for some architectures being slow to
11381 sign packages, we are still missing the fixed LTSP package we need for
11382 the release. It was uploaded three days ago with urgency=high, and if
11383 it had entered testing yesterday we would have been able to test it in
11384 time for a alpha0 release today. As the binaries for ia64 and powerpc
11385 still not uploaded to the Debian archive, we need to delay the alpha
11386 release another day.
</p>
11388 <p>If you want to help out with implementing Kerberos for Debian Edu,
11389 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p>
11395 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet
</a>.
11400 <div class=
"padding"></div>
11402 <div class=
"entry">
11403 <div class=
"title">
11404 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/What_are_they_searching_for___PowerDNS_and_ISC_DHCP_in_LDAP.html">What are they searching for - PowerDNS and ISC DHCP in LDAP
</a>
11411 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Time_for_new__LDAP_schemas_replacing_RFC_2307_.html">followup
</a>
11413 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Idea_for_a_change_to_LDAP_schemas_allowing_DNS_and_DHCP_info_to_be_combined_into_one_object.html">previous
11415 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Combining_PowerDNS_and_ISC_DHCP_LDAP_objects.html">merging
11416 all
</a> the computer related LDAP objects in Debian Edu.
</p>
11418 <p>As a step to try to see if it possible to merge the DNS and DHCP
11419 LDAP objects, I have had a look at how the packages pdns-backend-ldap
11420 and dhcp3-server-ldap in Debian use the LDAP server. The two
11421 implementations are quite different in how they use LDAP.
</p>
11423 To get this information, I started slapd with debugging enabled and
11424 dumped the debug output to a file to get the LDAP searches performed
11425 on a Debian Edu main-server. Here is a summary.
11427 <p><strong>powerdns
</strong></p>
11429 <a href=
"http://www.linuxnetworks.de/doc/index.php/PowerDNS_LDAP_Backend">Clues
11430 on how to
</a> set up PowerDNS to use a LDAP backend is available on
11433 <p>PowerDNS have two modes of operation using LDAP as its backend.
11434 One "strict" mode where the forward and reverse DNS lookups are done
11435 using the same LDAP objects, and a "tree" mode where the forward and
11436 reverse entries are in two different subtrees in LDAP with a structure
11437 based on the DNS names, as in tjener.intern and
11438 2.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa.
</p>
11440 <p>In tree mode, the server is set up to use a LDAP subtree as its
11441 base, and uses a "base" scoped search for the DNS name by adding
11442 "dc=tjener,dc=intern," to the base with a filter for
11443 "(associateddomain=tjener.intern)" for the forward entry and
11444 "dc=
2,dc=
2,dc=
0,dc=
10,dc=in-addr,dc=arpa," with a filter for
11445 "(associateddomain=
2.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa)" for the reverse entry. For
11446 forward entries, it is looking for attributes named dnsttl, arecord,
11447 nsrecord, cnamerecord, soarecord, ptrrecord, hinforecord, mxrecord,
11448 txtrecord, rprecord, afsdbrecord, keyrecord, aaaarecord, locrecord,
11449 srvrecord, naptrrecord, kxrecord, certrecord, dsrecord, sshfprecord,
11450 ipseckeyrecord, rrsigrecord, nsecrecord, dnskeyrecord, dhcidrecord,
11451 spfrecord and modifytimestamp. For reverse entries it is looking for
11452 the attributes dnsttl, arecord, nsrecord, cnamerecord, soarecord,
11453 ptrrecord, hinforecord, mxrecord, txtrecord, rprecord, aaaarecord,
11454 locrecord, srvrecord, naptrrecord and modifytimestamp. The equivalent
11455 ldapsearch commands could look like this:
</p>
11458 ldapsearch -h ldap \
11459 -b dc=tjener,dc=intern,ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no \
11460 -s base -x '(associateddomain=tjener.intern)' dNSTTL aRecord nSRecord \
11461 cNAMERecord sOARecord pTRRecord hInfoRecord mXRecord tXTRecord \
11462 rPRecord aFSDBRecord KeyRecord aAAARecord lOCRecord sRVRecord \
11463 nAPTRRecord kXRecord certRecord dSRecord sSHFPRecord iPSecKeyRecord \
11464 rRSIGRecord nSECRecord dNSKeyRecord dHCIDRecord sPFRecord modifyTimestamp
11466 ldapsearch -h ldap \
11467 -b dc=
2,dc=
2,dc=
0,dc=
10,dc=in-addr,dc=arpa,ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no \
11468 -s base -x '(associateddomain=
2.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa)'
11469 dnsttl, arecord, nsrecord, cnamerecord soarecord ptrrecord \
11470 hinforecord mxrecord txtrecord rprecord aaaarecord locrecord \
11471 srvrecord naptrrecord modifytimestamp
11472 </pre></blockquote>
11474 <p>In Debian Edu/Lenny, the PowerDNS tree mode is used with
11475 ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no as the base, and these are two
11476 example LDAP objects used there. In addition to these objects, the
11477 parent objects all th way up to ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
11481 dn: dc=tjener,dc=intern,ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
11483 objectclass: dnsdomain
11484 objectclass: domainrelatedobject
11487 associateddomain: tjener.intern
11489 dn: dc=
2,dc=
2,dc=
0,dc=
10,dc=in-addr,dc=arpa,ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
11491 objectclass: dnsdomain2
11492 objectclass: domainrelatedobject
11494 ptrrecord: tjener.intern
11495 associateddomain:
2.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa
11496 </pre></blockquote>
11498 <p>In strict mode, the server behaves differently. When looking for
11499 forward DNS entries, it is doing a "subtree" scoped search with the
11500 same base as in the tree mode for a object with filter
11501 "(associateddomain=tjener.intern)" and requests the attributes dnsttl,
11502 arecord, nsrecord, cnamerecord, soarecord, ptrrecord, hinforecord,
11503 mxrecord, txtrecord, rprecord, aaaarecord, locrecord, srvrecord,
11504 naptrrecord and modifytimestamp. For reverse entires it also do a
11505 subtree scoped search but this time the filter is "(arecord=
10.0.2.2)"
11506 and the requested attributes are associateddomain, dnsttl and
11507 modifytimestamp. In short, in strict mode the objects with ptrrecord
11508 go away, and the arecord attribute in the forward object is used
11511 <p>The forward and reverse searches can be simulated using ldapsearch
11515 ldapsearch -h ldap -b ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no -s sub -x \
11516 '(associateddomain=tjener.intern)' dNSTTL aRecord nSRecord \
11517 cNAMERecord sOARecord pTRRecord hInfoRecord mXRecord tXTRecord \
11518 rPRecord aFSDBRecord KeyRecord aAAARecord lOCRecord sRVRecord \
11519 nAPTRRecord kXRecord certRecord dSRecord sSHFPRecord iPSecKeyRecord \
11520 rRSIGRecord nSECRecord dNSKeyRecord dHCIDRecord sPFRecord modifyTimestamp
11522 ldapsearch -h ldap -b ou=hosts,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no -s sub -x \
11523 '(arecord=
10.0.2.2)' associateddomain dnsttl modifytimestamp
11524 </pre></blockquote>
11526 <p>In addition to the forward and reverse searches , there is also a
11527 search for SOA records, which behave similar to the forward and
11528 reverse lookups.
</p>
11530 <p>A thing to note with the PowerDNS behaviour is that it do not
11531 specify any objectclass names, and instead look for the attributes it
11532 need to generate a DNS reply. This make it able to work with any
11533 objectclass that provide the needed attributes.
</p>
11535 <p>The attributes are normally provided in the cosine (RFC
1274) and
11536 dnsdomain2 schemas. The latter is used for reverse entries like
11537 ptrrecord and recent DNS additions like aaaarecord and srvrecord.
</p>
11539 <p>In Debian Edu, we have created DNS objects using the object classes
11540 dcobject (for dc), dnsdomain or dnsdomain2 (structural, for the DNS
11541 attributes) and domainrelatedobject (for associatedDomain). The use
11542 of structural object classes make it impossible to combine these
11543 classes with the object classes used by DHCP.
</p>
11545 <p>There are other schemas that could be used too, for example the
11546 dnszone structural object class used by Gosa and bind-sdb for the DNS
11547 attributes combined with the domainrelatedobject object class, but in
11548 this case some unused attributes would have to be included as well
11549 (zonename and relativedomainname).
</p>
11551 <p>My proposal for Debian Edu would be to switch PowerDNS to strict
11552 mode and not use any of the existing objectclasses (dnsdomain,
11553 dnsdomain2 and dnszone) when one want to combine the DNS information
11554 with DHCP information, and instead create a auxiliary object class
11555 defined something like this (using the attributes defined for
11556 dnsdomain and dnsdomain2 or dnszone):
</p>
11559 objectclass ( some-oid NAME 'dnsDomainAux'
11562 MAY ( ARecord $ MDRecord $ MXRecord $ NSRecord $ SOARecord $ CNAMERecord $
11563 DNSTTL $ DNSClass $ PTRRecord $ HINFORecord $ MINFORecord $
11564 TXTRecord $ SIGRecord $ KEYRecord $ AAAARecord $ LOCRecord $
11565 NXTRecord $ SRVRecord $ NAPTRRecord $ KXRecord $ CERTRecord $
11566 A6Record $ DNAMERecord
11568 </pre></blockquote>
11570 <p>This will allow any object to become a DNS entry when combined with
11571 the domainrelatedobject object class, and allow any entity to include
11572 all the attributes PowerDNS wants. I've sent an email to the PowerDNS
11573 developers asking for their view on this schema and if they are
11574 interested in providing such schema with PowerDNS, and I hope my
11575 message will be accepted into their mailing list soon.
</p>
11577 <p><strong>ISC dhcp
</strong></p>
11579 <p>The DHCP server searches for specific objectclass and requests all
11580 the object attributes, and then uses the attributes it want. This
11581 make it harder to figure out exactly what attributes are used, but
11582 thanks to the working example in Debian Edu I can at least get an idea
11583 what is needed without having to read the source code.
</p>
11585 <p>In the DHCP server configuration, the LDAP base to use and the
11586 search filter to use to locate the correct dhcpServer entity is
11587 stored. These are the relevant entries from
11588 /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf:
</p>
11591 ldap-base-dn "dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no";
11592 ldap-dhcp-server-cn "dhcp";
11593 </pre></blockquote>
11595 <p>The DHCP server uses this information to nest all the DHCP
11596 configuration it need. The cn "dhcp" is located using the given LDAP
11597 base and the filter "(&(objectClass=dhcpServer)(cn=dhcp))". The
11598 search result is this entry:
</p>
11601 dn: cn=dhcp,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
11604 objectClass: dhcpServer
11605 dhcpServiceDN: cn=DHCP Config,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
11606 </pre></blockquote>
11608 <p>The content of the dhcpServiceDN attribute is next used to locate the
11609 subtree with DHCP configuration. The DHCP configuration subtree base
11610 is located using a base scope search with base "cn=DHCP
11611 Config,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no" and filter
11612 "(&(objectClass=dhcpService)(|(dhcpPrimaryDN=cn=dhcp,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no)(dhcpSecondaryDN=cn=dhcp,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no)))".
11613 The search result is this entry:
</p>
11616 dn: cn=DHCP Config,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
11619 objectClass: dhcpService
11620 objectClass: dhcpOptions
11621 dhcpPrimaryDN: cn=dhcp, dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
11622 dhcpStatements: ddns-update-style none
11623 dhcpStatements: authoritative
11624 dhcpOption: smtp-server code
69 = array of ip-address
11625 dhcpOption: www-server code
72 = array of ip-address
11626 dhcpOption: wpad-url code
252 = text
11627 </pre></blockquote>
11629 <p>Next, the entire subtree is processed, one level at the time. When
11630 all the DHCP configuration is loaded, it is ready to receive requests.
11631 The subtree in Debian Edu contain objects with object classes
11632 top/dhcpService/dhcpOptions, top/dhcpSharedNetwork/dhcpOptions,
11633 top/dhcpSubnet, top/dhcpGroup and top/dhcpHost. These provide options
11634 and information about netmasks, dynamic range etc. Leaving out the
11635 details here because it is not relevant for the focus of my
11636 investigation, which is to see if it is possible to merge dns and dhcp
11637 related computer objects.
</p>
11639 <p>When a DHCP request come in, LDAP is searched for the MAC address
11640 of the client (
00:
00:
00:
00:
00:
00 in this example), using a subtree
11641 scoped search with "cn=DHCP Config,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no" as
11642 the base and "(&(objectClass=dhcpHost)(dhcpHWAddress=ethernet
11643 00:
00:
00:
00:
00:
00))" as the filter. This is what a host object look
11647 dn: cn=hostname,cn=group1,cn=THINCLIENTS,cn=DHCP Config,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
11650 objectClass: dhcpHost
11651 dhcpHWAddress: ethernet
00:
00:
00:
00:
00:
00
11652 dhcpStatements: fixed-address hostname
11653 </pre></blockquote>
11655 <p>There is less flexiblity in the way LDAP searches are done here.
11656 The object classes need to have fixed names, and the configuration
11657 need to be stored in a fairly specific LDAP structure. On the
11658 positive side, the invidiual dhcpHost entires can be anywhere without
11659 the DN pointed to by the dhcpServer entries. The latter should make
11660 it possible to group all host entries in a subtree next to the
11661 configuration entries, and this subtree can also be shared with the
11662 DNS server if the schema proposed above is combined with the dhcpHost
11663 structural object class.
11665 <p><strong>Conclusion
</strong></p>
11667 <p>The PowerDNS implementation seem to be very flexible when it come
11668 to which LDAP schemas to use. While its "tree" mode is rigid when it
11669 come to the the LDAP structure, the "strict" mode is very flexible,
11670 allowing DNS objects to be stored anywhere under the base cn specified
11671 in the configuration.
</p>
11673 <p>The DHCP implementation on the other hand is very inflexible, both
11674 regarding which LDAP schemas to use and which LDAP structure to use.
11675 I guess one could implement ones own schema, as long as the
11676 objectclasses and attributes have the names used, but this do not
11677 really help when the DHCP subtree need to have a fairly fixed
11680 <p>Based on the observed behaviour, I suspect a LDAP structure like
11681 this might work for Debian Edu:
</p>
11685 cn=machine-info (dhcpService) - dhcpServiceDN points here
11686 cn=dhcp (dhcpServer)
11687 cn=dhcp-internal (dhcpSharedNetwork/dhcpOptions)
11688 cn=
10.0.2.0 (dhcpSubnet)
11689 cn=group1 (dhcpGroup/dhcpOptions)
11690 cn=dhcp-thinclients (dhcpSharedNetwork/dhcpOptions)
11691 cn=
192.168.0.0 (dhcpSubnet)
11692 cn=group1 (dhcpGroup/dhcpOptions)
11693 ou=machines - PowerDNS base points here
11694 cn=hostname (dhcpHost/domainrelatedobject/dnsDomainAux)
11695 </pre></blockquote>
11697 <P>This is not tested yet. If the DHCP server require the dhcpHost
11698 entries to be in the dhcpGroup subtrees, the entries can be stored
11699 there instead of a common machines subtree, and the PowerDNS base
11700 would have to be moved one level up to the machine-info subtree.
</p>
11702 <p>The combined object under the machines subtree would look something
11706 dn: dc=hostname,ou=machines,cn=machine-info,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
11709 objectClass: dhcpHost
11710 objectclass: domainrelatedobject
11711 objectclass: dnsDomainAux
11712 associateddomain: hostname.intern
11713 arecord:
10.11.12.13
11714 dhcpHWAddress: ethernet
00:
00:
00:
00:
00:
00
11715 dhcpStatements: fixed-address hostname.intern
11716 </pre></blockquote>
11718 </p>One could even add the LTSP configuration associated with a given
11719 machine, as long as the required attributes are available in a
11720 auxiliary object class.
</p>
11726 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
11731 <div class=
"padding"></div>
11733 <div class=
"entry">
11734 <div class=
"title">
11735 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Combining_PowerDNS_and_ISC_DHCP_LDAP_objects.html">Combining PowerDNS and ISC DHCP LDAP objects
</a>
11741 <p>For a while now, I have wanted to find a way to change the DNS and
11742 DHCP services in Debian Edu to use the same LDAP objects for a given
11743 computer, to avoid the possibility of having a inconsistent state for
11744 a computer in LDAP (as in DHCP but no DNS entry or the other way
11745 around) and make it easier to add computers to LDAP.
</p>
11747 <p>I've looked at how powerdns and dhcpd is using LDAP, and using this
11748 information finally found a solution that seem to work.
</p>
11750 <p>The old setup required three LDAP objects for a given computer.
11751 One forward DNS entry, one reverse DNS entry and one DHCP entry. If
11752 we switch powerdns to use its strict LDAP method (ldap-method=strict
11753 in pdns-debian-edu.conf), the forward and reverse DNS entries are
11754 merged into one while making it impossible to transfer the reverse map
11755 to a slave DNS server.
</p>
11757 <p>If we also replace the object class used to get the DNS related
11758 attributes to one allowing these attributes to be combined with the
11759 dhcphost object class, we can merge the DNS and DHCP entries into one.
11760 I've written such object class in the dnsdomainaux.schema file (need
11761 proper OIDs, but that is a minor issue), and tested the setup. It
11764 <p>With this test setup in place, we can get away with one LDAP object
11765 for both DNS and DHCP, and even the LTSP configuration I suggested in
11766 an earlier email. The combined LDAP object will look something like
11770 dn: cn=hostname,cn=group1,cn=THINCLIENTS,cn=DHCP Config,dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
11772 objectClass: dhcphost
11773 objectclass: domainrelatedobject
11774 objectclass: dnsdomainaux
11775 associateddomain: hostname.intern
11776 arecord:
10.11.12.13
11777 dhcphwaddress: ethernet
00:
00:
00:
00:
00:
00
11778 dhcpstatements: fixed-address hostname
11780 </pre></blockquote>
11782 <p>The DNS server uses the associateddomain and arecord entries, while
11783 the DHCP server uses the dhcphwaddress and dhcpstatements entries
11784 before asking DNS to resolve the fixed-adddress. LTSP will use
11785 dhcphwaddress or associateddomain and the ldapconfig* attributes.
</p>
11787 <p>I am not yet sure if I can get the DHCP server to look for its
11788 dhcphost in a different location, to allow us to put the objects
11789 outside the "DHCP Config" subtree, but hope to figure out a way to do
11790 that. If I can't figure out a way to do that, we can still get rid of
11791 the hosts subtree and move all its content into the DHCP Config tree
11792 (which probably should be renamed to be more related to the new
11793 content. I suspect cn=dnsdhcp,ou=services or something like that
11794 might be a good place to put it.
</p>
11796 <p>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
11797 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p>
11803 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
11808 <div class=
"padding"></div>
11810 <div class=
"entry">
11811 <div class=
"title">
11812 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Idea_for_storing_LTSP_configuration_in_LDAP.html">Idea for storing LTSP configuration in LDAP
</a>
11818 <p>Vagrant mentioned on IRC today that ltsp_config now support
11819 sourcing files from /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp_config.d/ on the thin
11820 clients, and that this can be used to fetch configuration from LDAP if
11821 Debian Edu choose to store configuration there.
</p>
11823 <p>Armed with this information, I got inspired and wrote a test module
11824 to get configuration from LDAP. The idea is to look up the MAC
11825 address of the client in LDAP, and look for attributes on the form
11826 ltspconfigsetting=value, and use this to export SETTING=value to the
11829 <p>The goal is to be able to store the LTSP configuration attributes
11830 in a "computer" LDAP object used by both DNS and DHCP, and thus
11831 allowing us to store all information about a computer in one place.
</p>
11833 <p>This is a untested draft implementation, and I welcome feedback on
11834 this approach. A real LDAP schema for the ltspClientAux objectclass
11835 need to be written. Comments, suggestions, etc?
</p>
11838 # Store in /opt/ltsp/$arch/usr/share/ltsp/ltsp_config.d/ldap-config
11840 # Fetch LTSP client settings from LDAP based on MAC address
11842 # Uses ethernet address as stored in the dhcpHost objectclass using
11843 # the dhcpHWAddress attribute or ethernet address stored in the
11844 # ieee802Device objectclass with the macAddress attribute.
11846 # This module is written to be schema agnostic, and only depend on the
11847 # existence of attribute names.
11849 # The LTSP configuration variables are saved directly using a
11850 # ltspConfig prefix and uppercasing the rest of the attribute name.
11851 # To set the SERVER variable, set the ltspConfigServer attribute.
11853 # Some LDAP schema should be created with all the relevant
11854 # configuration settings. Something like this should work:
11856 # objectclass (
1.1.2.2 NAME 'ltspClientAux'
11859 # MAY ( ltspConfigServer $ ltsConfigSound $ ... )
11861 LDAPSERVER=$(debian-edu-ldapserver)
11862 if [ "$LDAPSERVER" ] ; then
11863 LDAPBASE=$(debian-edu-ldapserver -b)
11864 for MAC in $(LANG=C ifconfig |grep -i hwaddr| awk '{print $
5}'|sort -u) ; do
11865 filter="(|(dhcpHWAddress=ethernet $MAC)(macAddress=$MAC))"
11866 ldapsearch -h "$LDAPSERVER" -b "$LDAPBASE" -v -x "$filter" | \
11867 grep '^ltspConfig' | while read attr value ; do
11868 # Remove prefix and convert to upper case
11869 attr=$(echo $attr | sed 's/^ltspConfig//i' | tr a-z A-Z)
11870 # bass value on to clients
11871 eval "$attr=$value; export $attr"
11875 </pre></blockquote>
11877 <p>I'm not sure this shell construction will work, because I suspect
11878 the while block might end up in a subshell causing the variables set
11879 there to not show up in ltsp-config, but if that is the case I am sure
11880 the code can be restructured to make sure the variables are passed on.
11881 I expect that can be solved with some testing. :)
</p>
11883 <p>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
11884 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p>
11886 <p>Update
2010-
07-
17: I am aware of another effort to store LTSP
11887 configuration in LDAP that was created around year
2000 by
11888 <a href=
"http://www.pcxperience.com/thinclient/documentation/ldap.html">PC
11889 Xperience, Inc.,
2000</a>. I found its
11890 <a href=
"http://people.redhat.com/alikins/ltsp/ldap/">files
</a> on a
11891 personal home page over at redhat.com.
</p>
11897 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
11902 <div class=
"padding"></div>
11904 <div class=
"entry">
11905 <div class=
"title">
11906 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/jXplorer__a_very_nice_LDAP_GUI.html">jXplorer, a very nice LDAP GUI
</a>
11913 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/LUMA__a_very_nice_LDAP_GUI.html">my
11914 last post
</a> about available LDAP tools in Debian, I was told about a
11915 LDAP GUI that is even better than luma. The java application
11916 <a href=
"http://jxplorer.org/">jXplorer
</a> is claimed to be capable of
11917 moving LDAP objects and subtrees using drag-and-drop, and can
11918 authenticate using Kerberos. I have only tested the Kerberos
11919 authentication, but do not have a LDAP setup allowing me to rewrite
11920 LDAP with my test user yet. It is
11921 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/j/jxplorer.html">available in
11922 Debian
</a> testing and unstable at the moment. The only problem I
11923 have with it is how it handle errors. If something go wrong, its
11924 non-intuitive behaviour require me to go through some query work list
11925 and remove the failing query. Nothing big, but very annoying.
</p>
11931 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
11936 <div class=
"padding"></div>
11938 <div class=
"entry">
11939 <div class=
"title">
11940 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__apt_vs_aptitude_with_the_Gnome_desktop.html">Lenny-
>Squeeze upgrades, apt vs aptitude with the Gnome desktop
</a>
11946 <p>Here is a short update on my
<a
11947 href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/~pere/debian-upgrade-testing/">my
11948 Debian Lenny-
>Squeeze upgrade testing
</a>. Here is a summary of the
11949 difference for Gnome when it is upgraded by apt-get and aptitude. I'm
11950 not reporting the status for KDE, because the upgrade crashes when
11951 aptitude try because of missing conflicts
11952 (
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/584861">#
584861</a> and
11953 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/585716">#
585716</a>).
</p>
11955 <p>At the end of the upgrade test script, dpkg -l is executed to get a
11956 complete list of the installed packages. Based on this I see these
11957 differences when I did a test run today. As usual, I do not really
11958 know what the correct set of packages would be, but thought it best to
11959 publish the difference.
</p>
11961 <p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude
</p>
11964 at-spi cpp-
4.3 finger gnome-spell gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
11965 libatspi1.0-
0 libcupsys2 libeel2-data libgail-common libgdl-
1-common
11966 libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomeprintui2.2-common libgnomevfs2-bin
11967 libgtksourceview-common libpt-
1.10.10-plugins-alsa
11968 libpt-
1.10.10-plugins-v4l libservlet2.4-java libxalan2-java
11969 libxerces2-java openoffice.org-writer2latex openssl-blacklist p7zip
11970 python-
4suite-xml python-eggtrayicon python-gtkhtml2
11971 python-gtkmozembed svgalibg1 xserver-xephyr zip
11974 <p>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
</p>
11977 bluez-utils dhcdbd djvulibre-desktop epiphany-gecko
11978 gnome-app-install gnome-mount gnome-vfs-obexftp gnome-volume-manager
11979 libao2 libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-core5 libbind9-
50
11980 libbluetooth2 libcamel1.2-
11 libcdio7 libcucul0 libcurl3
11981 libdirectfb-
1.0-
0 libdvdread3 libedata-cal1.2-
6 libedataserver1.2-
9
11982 libeel2-
2.20 libepc-
1.0-
1 libepc-ui-
1.0-
1 libexchange-storage1.2-
3
11983 libfaad0 libgd2-noxpm libgda3-
3 libgda3-common libggz2 libggzcore9
11984 libggzmod4 libgksu1.2-
0 libgksuui1.0-
1 libgmyth0 libgnome-desktop-
2
11985 libgnome-pilot2 libgnomecups1.0-
1 libgnomeprint2.2-
0
11986 libgnomeprintui2.2-
0 libgpod3 libgraphviz4 libgtkhtml2-
0
11987 libgtksourceview1.0-
0 libgucharmap6 libhesiod0 libicu38 libisccc50
11988 libisccfg50 libiw29 libkpathsea4 libltdl3 liblwres50 libmagick++
10
11989 libmagick10 libmalaga7 libmtp7 libmysqlclient15off libnautilus-burn4
11990 libneon27 libnm-glib0 libnm-util0 libopal-
2.2 libosp5
11991 libparted1.8-
10 libpisock9 libpisync1 libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler3
11992 libpt-
1.10.10 libraw1394-
8 libsensors3 libsmbios2 libsoup2.2-
8
11993 libssh2-
1 libsuitesparse-
3.1.0 libswfdec-
0.6-
90 libtalloc1
11994 libtotem-plparser10 libtrackerclient0 libvoikko1 libxalan2-java-gcj
11995 libxerces2-java-gcj libxklavier12 libxtrap6 libxxf86misc1 libzephyr3
11996 mysql-common swfdec-gnome totem-gstreamer wodim
11999 <p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get
</p>
12002 gnome gnome-desktop-environment hamster-applet python-gnomeapplet
12003 python-gnomekeyring python-wnck rhythmbox-plugins xorg
12004 xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
12005 xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
12006 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-video-all
12007 xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati
12008 xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus
12009 xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
12010 xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128
12011 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-mach64
12012 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
12013 xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-nv
12014 xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon
12015 xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd xserver-xorg-video-rendition
12016 xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge
12017 xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
12018 xserver-xorg-video-sis xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
12019 xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-tga
12020 xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng
12021 xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
12022 xserver-xorg-video-voodoo
12025 <p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get
</p>
12028 deskbar-applet xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core
12029 xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-intel
12030 xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
12033 <p>I was told on IRC that the xorg-xserver package was
12034 <a href=
"http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/xserver/xorg-server.git;a=commit;h=9c8080d06c457932d3bfec021c69ac000aa60120">changed
12035 in git
</a> today to try to get apt-get to not remove xorg completely.
12036 No idea when it hits Squeeze, but when it does I hope it will reduce
12037 the difference somewhat.
12043 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
12048 <div class=
"padding"></div>
12050 <div class=
"entry">
12051 <div class=
"title">
12052 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Caching_password__user_and_group_on_a_roaming_Debian_laptop.html">Caching password, user and group on a roaming Debian laptop
</a>
12058 <p>For a laptop, centralized user directories and password checking is
12059 a bit troubling. Laptops are typically used also when not connected
12060 to the network, and it is vital for a user to be able to log in or
12061 unlock the screen saver also when a central server is unavailable.
12062 This is possible by caching passwords and directory information (user
12063 and group attributes) locally, and the packages to do so are available
12064 in Debian. Here follow two recipes to set this up in Debian/Squeeze.
12065 It is also possible to set up in Debian/Lenny, but require more manual
12066 setup there because pam-auth-update is missing in Lenny.
</p>
12068 <h2>LDAP/Kerberos + nscd + libpam-ccreds + libpam-mklocaluser/pam_mkhomedir
</h2>
12070 This is the traditional method with a twist. The password caching is
12071 provided by libpam-ccreds (version
10-
4 or later is needed on
12072 Squeeze), and the directory caching is done by nscd. The directory
12073 lookup and password checking is done using LDAP. If one want to use
12074 Kerberos for password checking the libpam-ldapd package can be
12075 replaced with libpam-krb5 or libpam-heimdal. If one is happy having a
12076 local home directory with the path listed in LDAP, one can use the
12077 pam_mkhomedir module from pam-modules to make this happen instead of
12078 using libpam-mklocaluser. A setup for pam-auth-update to enable
12079 pam_mkhomedir will have to be written until a fix for
12080 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/568577">bug #
568577</a> is in the
12081 archive. Because I believe it is a bad idea to have local home
12082 directories using misleading paths like /site/server/partition/, I
12083 prefer to create a local user with the home directory in /home/. This
12084 is done using the libpam-mklocaluser package.
</p>
12086 <p>These packages need to be installed and configured
</p>
12089 libnss-ldapd libpam-ldapd nscd libpam-ccreds libpam-mklocaluser
12090 </pre></blockquote>
12092 <p>The ldapd packages will ask for LDAP connection information, and
12093 one have to fill in the values that fits ones own site. Make sure the
12094 PAM part uses encrypted connections, to make sure the password is not
12095 sent in clear text to the LDAP server. I've been unable to get TLS
12096 certificate checking for a self signed certificate working, which make
12097 LDAP authentication unsafe for Debian Edu (nslcd is not checking if it
12098 is talking to the correct LDAP server), and very much welcome feedback
12099 on how to get this working.
</p>
12101 <p>Because nscd do not have a default configuration fit for offline
12102 caching until
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/485282">bug #
485282</a>
12103 is fixed, this configuration should be used instead of the one
12104 currently in /etc/nscd.conf. The changes are in the fields
12105 reload-count and positive-time-to-live, and is based on the
12106 instructions I found in the
12107 <a href=
"http://www.flyn.org/laptopldap/">LDAP for Mobile Laptops
</a>
12108 instructions by Flyn Computing.
</p>
12112 reload-count unlimited
12115 enable-cache passwd yes
12116 positive-time-to-live passwd
2592000
12117 negative-time-to-live passwd
20
12118 suggested-size passwd
211
12119 check-files passwd yes
12120 persistent passwd yes
12122 max-db-size passwd
33554432
12123 auto-propagate passwd yes
12125 enable-cache group yes
12126 positive-time-to-live group
2592000
12127 negative-time-to-live group
20
12128 suggested-size group
211
12129 check-files group yes
12130 persistent group yes
12132 max-db-size group
33554432
12133 auto-propagate group yes
12135 enable-cache hosts no
12136 positive-time-to-live hosts
2592000
12137 negative-time-to-live hosts
20
12138 suggested-size hosts
211
12139 check-files hosts yes
12140 persistent hosts yes
12142 max-db-size hosts
33554432
12144 enable-cache services yes
12145 positive-time-to-live services
2592000
12146 negative-time-to-live services
20
12147 suggested-size services
211
12148 check-files services yes
12149 persistent services yes
12150 shared services yes
12151 max-db-size services
33554432
12152 </pre></blockquote>
12154 <p>While we wait for a mechanism to update /etc/nsswitch.conf
12155 automatically like the one provided in
12156 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/496915">bug #
496915</a>, the file
12157 content need to be manually replaced to ensure LDAP is used as the
12158 directory service on the machine. /etc/nsswitch.conf should normally
12159 look like this:
</p>
12165 hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
12171 netgroup: files ldap
12172 </pre></blockquote>
12174 <p>The important parts are that ldap is listed last for passwd, group,
12175 shadow and netgroup.
</p>
12177 <p>With these changes in place, any user in LDAP will be able to log
12178 in locally on the machine using for example kdm, get a local home
12179 directory created and have the password as well as user and group
12182 <h2>LDAP/Kerberos + nss-updatedb + libpam-ccreds +
12183 libpam-mklocaluser/pam_mkhomedir
</h2>
12185 <p>Because nscd have had its share of problems, and seem to have
12186 problems doing proper caching, I've seen suggestions and recipes to
12187 use nss-updatedb to copy parts of the LDAP database locally when the
12188 LDAP database is available. I have not tested such setup, because I
12189 discovered sssd.
</p>
12191 <h2>LDAP/Kerberos + sssd + libpam-mklocaluser
</h2>
12193 <p>A more flexible and robust setup than the nscd combination
12194 mentioned earlier that has shown up recently, is the
12195 <a href=
"https://fedorahosted.org/sssd/">sssd
</a> package from Redhat.
12196 It is part of the
<a href=
"http://www.freeipa.org/">FreeIPA
</A> project
12197 to provide a Active Directory like directory service for Linux
12198 machines. The sssd system combines the caching of passwords and user
12199 information into one package, and remove the need for nscd and
12200 libpam-ccreds. It support LDAP and Kerberos, but not NIS. Version
12201 1.2 do not support netgroups, but it is said that it will support this
12202 in version
1.5 expected to show up later in
2010. Because the
12203 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/sssd.html">sssd package
</a>
12204 was missing in Debian, I ended up co-maintaining it with Werner, and
12205 version
1.2 is now in testing.
12207 <p>These packages need to be installed and configured to get the
12208 roaming setup I want
</p>
12211 libpam-sss libnss-sss libpam-mklocaluser
12212 </pre></blockquote>
12214 The complete setup of sssd is done by editing/creating
12215 <tt>/etc/sssd/sssd.conf
</tt>.
12219 config_file_version =
2
12220 reconnection_retries =
3
12222 services = nss, pam
12226 filter_groups = root
12227 filter_users = root
12228 reconnection_retries =
3
12231 reconnection_retries =
3
12235 cache_credentials = true
12238 auth_provider = ldap
12239 chpass_provider = ldap
12241 ldap_uri = ldap://ldap
12242 ldap_search_base = dc=skole,dc=skolelinux,dc=no
12243 ldap_tls_reqcert = never
12244 ldap_tls_cacert = /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
12245 </pre></blockquote>
12247 <p>I got the same problem here with certificate checking. Had to set
12248 "ldap_tls_reqcert = never" to get it working.
</p>
12250 <p>With the libnss-sss package in testing at the moment, the
12251 nsswitch.conf file is update automatically, so there is no need to
12252 modify it manually.
</p>
12254 <p>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
12255 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p>
12261 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
12266 <div class=
"padding"></div>
12268 <div class=
"entry">
12269 <div class=
"title">
12270 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/LUMA__a_very_nice_LDAP_GUI.html">LUMA, a very nice LDAP GUI
</a>
12276 <p>The last few days I have been looking into the status of the LDAP
12277 directory in Debian Edu, and in the process I started to miss a GUI
12278 tool to browse the LDAP tree. The only one I was able to find in
12279 Debian/Squeeze and Lenny is
12280 <a href=
"http://luma.sourceforge.net/">LUMA
</a>, which has proved to
12281 be a great tool to get a overview of the current LDAP directory
12282 populated by default in Skolelinux. Thanks to it, I have been able to
12283 find empty and obsolete subtrees, misplaced objects and duplicate
12284 objects. It will be installed by default in Debian/Squeeze. If you
12285 are working with LDAP, give it a go. :)
</p>
12287 <p>I did notice one problem with it I have not had time to report to
12288 the BTS yet. There is no .desktop file in the package, so the tool do
12289 not show up in the Gnome and KDE menus, but only deep down in in the
12290 Debian submenu in KDE. I hope that can be fixed before Squeeze is
12293 <p>I have not yet been able to get it to modify the tree yet. I would
12294 like to move objects and remove subtrees directly in the GUI, but have
12295 not found a way to do that with LUMA yet. So in the mean time, I use
12296 <a href=
"http://www.lichteblau.com/ldapvi/">ldapvi
</a> for that.
</p>
12298 <p>If you have tips on other GUI tools for LDAP that might be useful
12299 in Debian Edu, please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p>
12301 <p>Update
2010-
06-
29: Ross Reedstrom tipped us about the
12302 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gq.html">gq
</a> package as a
12303 useful GUI alternative. It seem like a good tool, but is unmaintained
12304 in Debian and got a RC bug keeping it out of Squeeze. Unless that
12305 changes, it will not be an option for Debian Edu based on Squeeze.
</p>
12311 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
12316 <div class=
"padding"></div>
12318 <div class=
"entry">
12319 <div class=
"title">
12320 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Idea_for_a_change_to_LDAP_schemas_allowing_DNS_and_DHCP_info_to_be_combined_into_one_object.html">Idea for a change to LDAP schemas allowing DNS and DHCP info to be combined into one object
</a>
12327 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Time_for_new__LDAP_schemas_replacing_RFC_2307_.html">complained
12328 about the fact
</a> that it is not possible with the provided schemas
12329 for storing DNS and DHCP information in LDAP to combine the two sets
12330 of information into one LDAP object representing a computer.
</p>
12332 <p>In the mean time, I discovered that a simple fix would be to make
12333 the dhcpHost object class auxiliary, to allow it to be combined with
12334 the dNSDomain object class, and thus forming one object for one
12335 computer when storing both DHCP and DNS information in LDAP.
</p>
12337 <p>If I understand this correctly, it is not safe to do this change
12338 without also changing the assigned number for the object class, and I
12339 do not know enough about LDAP schema design to do that properly for
12342 <p>Anyway, for future reference, this is how I believe we could change
12344 <a href=
"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dhc-ldap-schema-00">DHCP
12345 schema
</a> to solve at least part of the problem with the LDAP schemas
12346 available today from IETF.
</p>
12349 --- dhcp.schema (revision
65192)
12350 +++ dhcp.schema (working copy)
12351 @@ -
376,
7 +
376,
7 @@
12352 objectclass (
2.16.840.1.113719.1.203.6.6
12354 DESC 'This represents information about a particular client'
12356 + SUP top AUXILIARY
12358 MAY (dhcpLeaseDN $ dhcpHWAddress $ dhcpOptionsDN $ dhcpStatements $ dhcpComments $ dhcpOption)
12359 X-NDS_CONTAINMENT ('dhcpService' 'dhcpSubnet' 'dhcpGroup') )
12362 <p>I very much welcome clues on how to do this properly for Debian
12363 Edu/Squeeze. We provide the DHCP schema in our debian-edu-config
12364 package, and should thus be free to rewrite it as we see fit.
</p>
12366 <p>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
12367 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p>
12373 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
12378 <div class=
"padding"></div>
12380 <div class=
"entry">
12381 <div class=
"title">
12382 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__removals_by_apt_and_aptitude.html">Lenny-
>Squeeze upgrades, removals by apt and aptitude
</a>
12389 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_upgrade_testing_from_Lenny_to_Squeeze.html">testing
12390 of Debian upgrades
</a> from Lenny to Squeeze continues, and I've
12391 finally made the upgrade logs available from
12392 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/debian-upgrade-testing/">http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/debian-upgrade-testing/
</a>.
12393 I am now testing dist-upgrade of Gnome and KDE in a chroot using both
12394 apt and aptitude, and found their differences interesting. This time
12395 I will only focus on their removal plans.
</p>
12397 <p>After installing a Gnome desktop and the laptop task, apt-get wants
12398 to remove
72 packages when dist-upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze. The
12399 surprising part is that it want to remove xorg and all
12400 xserver-xorg-video* drivers. Clearly not a good choice, but I am not
12401 sure why. When asking aptitude to do the same, it want to remove
129
12402 packages, but most of them are library packages I suspect are no
12403 longer needed. Both of them want to remove bluetooth packages, which
12404 I do not know. Perhaps these bluetooth packages are obsolete?
</p>
12406 <p>For KDE, apt-get want to remove
82 packages, among them kdebase
12407 which seem like a bad idea and xorg the same way as with Gnome. Asking
12408 aptitude for the same, it wants to remove
192 packages, none which are
12409 too surprising.
</p>
12411 <p>I guess the removal of xorg during upgrades should be investigated
12412 and avoided, and perhaps others as well. Here are the complete list
12413 of planned removals. The complete logs is available from the URL
12414 above. Note if you want to repeat these tests, that the upgrade test
12415 for kde+apt-get hung in the tasksel setup because of dpkg asking
12416 conffile questions. No idea why. I worked around it by using
12417 '
<tt>echo
>> /proc/
<em>pidofdpkg
</em>/fd/
0</tt>' to tell dpkg to
12420 <p><b>apt-get gnome
72</b>
12421 <br>bluez-gnome cupsddk-drivers deskbar-applet gnome
12422 gnome-desktop-environment gnome-network-admin gtkhtml3.14
12423 iceweasel-gnome-support libavcodec51 libdatrie0 libgdl-
1-
0
12424 libgnomekbd2 libgnomekbdui2 libmetacity0 libslab0 libxcb-xlib0
12425 nautilus-cd-burner python-gnome2-desktop python-gnome2-extras
12426 serpentine swfdec-mozilla update-manager xorg xserver-xorg
12427 xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
12428 xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
12429 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom
12430 xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark
12431 xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips
12432 xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-cyrix
12433 xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
12434 xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128
12435 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-imstt
12436 xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64
12437 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
12438 xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-nv
12439 xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
12440 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
12441 xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3
12442 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
12443 xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
12444 xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
12445 xserver-xorg-video-tga xserver-xorg-video-trident
12446 xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-v4l
12447 xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vga
12448 xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xulrunner-
1.9
12449 xulrunner-
1.9-gnome-support
</p>
12451 <p><b>aptitude gnome
129</b>
12453 <br>bluez-gnome bluez-utils cpp-
4.3 cupsddk-drivers dhcdbd
12454 djvulibre-desktop finger gnome-app-install gnome-mount
12455 gnome-network-admin gnome-spell gnome-vfs-obexftp
12456 gnome-volume-manager gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs gtkhtml3.14 libao2
12457 libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-core5 libavcodec51 libbluetooth2
12458 libcamel1.2-
11 libcdio7 libcucul0 libcupsys2 libcurl3 libdatrie0
12459 libdirectfb-
1.0-
0 libdvdread3 libedataserver1.2-
9 libeel2-
2.20
12460 libeel2-data libepc-
1.0-
1 libepc-ui-
1.0-
1 libfaad0 libgail-common
12461 libgd2-noxpm libgda3-
3 libgda3-common libgdl-
1-
0 libgdl-
1-common
12462 libggz2 libggzcore9 libggzmod4 libgksu1.2-
0 libgksuui1.0-
1 libgmyth0
12463 libgnomecups1.0-
1 libgnomekbd2 libgnomekbdui2 libgnomeprint2.2-
0
12464 libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomeprintui2.2-
0 libgnomeprintui2.2-common
12465 libgnomevfs2-bin libgpod3 libgraphviz4 libgtkhtml2-
0
12466 libgtksourceview-common libgtksourceview1.0-
0 libgucharmap6
12467 libhesiod0 libicu38 libiw29 libkpathsea4 libltdl3 libmagick++
10
12468 libmagick10 libmalaga7 libmetacity0 libmtp7 libmysqlclient15off
12469 libnautilus-burn4 libneon27 libnm-glib0 libnm-util0 libopal-
2.2
12470 libosp5 libparted1.8-
10 libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler3 libpt-
1.10.10
12471 libpt-
1.10.10-plugins-alsa libpt-
1.10.10-plugins-v4l libraw1394-
8
12472 libsensors3 libslab0 libsmbios2 libsoup2.2-
8 libssh2-
1
12473 libsuitesparse-
3.1.0 libswfdec-
0.6-
90 libtalloc1 libtotem-plparser10
12474 libtrackerclient0 libxalan2-java libxalan2-java-gcj libxcb-xlib0
12475 libxerces2-java libxerces2-java-gcj libxklavier12 libxtrap6
12476 libxxf86misc1 libzephyr3 mysql-common nautilus-cd-burner
12477 openoffice.org-writer2latex openssl-blacklist p7zip
12478 python-
4suite-xml python-eggtrayicon python-gnome2-desktop
12479 python-gnome2-extras python-gtkhtml2 python-gtkmozembed
12480 python-numeric python-sexy serpentine svgalibg1 swfdec-gnome
12481 swfdec-mozilla totem-gstreamer update-manager wodim
12482 xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-imstt
12483 xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-v4l xserver-xorg-video-vga
12486 <p><b>apt-get kde
82</b>
12488 <br>cupsddk-drivers karm kaudiocreator kcoloredit kcontrol kde kde-core
12489 kdeaddons kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-bin-kde3
12490 kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kdeutils khelpcenter kicker
12491 kicker-applets knewsticker kolourpaint konq-plugins konqueror korn
12492 kpersonalizer kscreensaver ksplash libavcodec51 libdatrie0 libkiten1
12493 libxcb-xlib0 quanta superkaramba texlive-base-bin xorg xserver-xorg
12494 xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
12495 xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
12496 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom
12497 xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark
12498 xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips
12499 xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-cyrix
12500 xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
12501 xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128
12502 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-imstt
12503 xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64
12504 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
12505 xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-nv
12506 xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
12507 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
12508 xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3
12509 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
12510 xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
12511 xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
12512 xserver-xorg-video-tga xserver-xorg-video-trident
12513 xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-v4l
12514 xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vga
12515 xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xulrunner-
1.9</p>
12517 <p><b>aptitude kde
192</b>
12518 <br>bluez-utils cpp-
4.3 cupsddk-drivers cvs dcoprss dhcdbd
12519 djvulibre-desktop dosfstools eyesapplet fifteenapplet finger gettext
12520 ghostscript-x imlib-base imlib11 indi kandy karm kasteroids
12521 kaudiocreator kbackgammon kbstate kcoloredit kcontrol kcron kdat
12522 kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-theme-window
12523 kdebase-bin-kde3 kdebase-kio-plugins kdeedu-data
12524 kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelirc kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data
12525 kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdenetwork-kfile-plugins
12526 kdepim-kfile-plugins kdepim-kio-plugins kdeprint kdesktop kdessh
12527 kdict kdnssd kdvi kedit keduca kenolaba kfax kfaxview kfouleggs
12528 kghostview khelpcenter khexedit kiconedit kitchensync klatin
12529 klickety kmailcvt kmenuedit kmid kmilo kmoon kmrml kodo kolourpaint
12530 kooka korn kpager kpdf kpercentage kpf kpilot kpoker kpovmodeler
12531 krec kregexpeditor ksayit ksim ksirc ksirtet ksmiletris ksmserver
12532 ksnake ksokoban ksplash ksvg ksysv ktip ktnef kuickshow kverbos
12533 kview kviewshell kvoctrain kwifimanager kwin kwin4 kworldclock
12534 kxsldbg libakode2 libao2 libarts1-akode libarts1-audiofile
12535 libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libavahi-compat-libdnssd1
12536 libavahi-core5 libavc1394-
0 libavcodec51 libbluetooth2
12537 libboost-python1.34
.1 libcucul0 libcurl3 libcvsservice0 libdatrie0
12538 libdirectfb-
1.0-
0 libdjvulibre21 libdvdread3 libfaad0 libfreebob0
12539 libgail-common libgd2-noxpm libgraphviz4 libgsmme1c2a libgtkhtml2-
0
12540 libicu38 libiec61883-
0 libindex0 libiw29 libk3b3 libkcal2b libkcddb1
12541 libkdeedu3 libkdepim1a libkgantt0 libkiten1 libkleopatra1 libkmime2
12542 libkpathsea4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libkscan1
12543 libksieve0 libktnef1 liblockdev1 libltdl3 libmagick10 libmimelib1c2a
12544 libmozjs1d libmpcdec3 libneon27 libnm-util0 libopensync0 libpisock9
12545 libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler3 libraw1394-
8 libsmbios2
12546 libssh2-
1 libsuitesparse-
3.1.0 libtalloc1 libtiff-tools
12547 libxalan2-java libxalan2-java-gcj libxcb-xlib0 libxerces2-java
12548 libxerces2-java-gcj libxtrap6 mpeglib networkstatus
12549 openoffice.org-writer2latex pmount poster psutils quanta quanta-data
12550 superkaramba svgalibg1 tex-common texlive-base texlive-base-bin
12551 texlive-common texlive-doc-base texlive-fonts-recommended
12552 xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-imstt
12553 xserver-xorg-video-nsc xserver-xorg-video-v4l xserver-xorg-video-vga
12561 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
12566 <div class=
"padding"></div>
12568 <div class=
"entry">
12569 <div class=
"title">
12570 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_upgrade_testing_from_Lenny_to_Squeeze.html">Automatic upgrade testing from Lenny to Squeeze
</a>
12576 <p>The last few days I have done some upgrade testing in Debian, to
12577 see if the upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze will go smoothly. A few bugs
12578 have been discovered and reported in the process
12579 (
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/585410">#
585410</a> in nagios3-cgi,
12580 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/584879">#
584879</a> already fixed in
12581 enscript and
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/584861">#
584861</a> in
12582 kdebase-workspace-data), and to get a more regular testing going on, I
12583 am working on a script to automate the test.
</p>
12585 <p>The idea is to create a Lenny chroot and use tasksel to install a
12586 Gnome or KDE desktop installation inside the chroot before upgrading
12587 it. To ensure no services are started in the chroot, a policy-rc.d
12588 script is inserted. To make sure tasksel believe it is to install a
12589 desktop on a laptop, the tasksel tests are replaced in the chroot
12590 (only acceptable because this is a throw-away chroot).
</p>
12592 <p>A naive upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze using aptitude dist-upgrade
12593 currently always fail because udev refuses to upgrade with the kernel
12594 in Lenny, so to avoid that problem the file /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade
12595 is created. The bug report
12596 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/566000">#
566000</a> make me suspect
12597 this problem do not trigger in a chroot, but I touch the file anyway
12598 to make sure the upgrade go well. Testing on virtual and real
12599 hardware have failed me because of udev so far, and creating this file
12600 do the trick in such settings anyway. This is a
12601 <a href=
"http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/failed-dist-upgrade-due-to-udev-config_sysfs_deprecated-nonsense-804130/">known
12602 issue
</a> and the current udev behaviour is intended by the udev
12603 maintainer because he lack the resources to rewrite udev to keep
12604 working with old kernels or something like that. I really wish the
12605 udev upstream would keep udev backwards compatible, to avoid such
12606 upgrade problem, but given that they fail to do so, I guess
12607 documenting the way out of this mess is the best option we got for
12608 Debian Squeeze.
</p>
12610 <p>Anyway, back to the task at hand, testing upgrades. This test
12611 script, which I call
<tt>upgrade-test
</tt> for now, is doing the
12627 exec
< /dev/null
12629 mirror=http://ftp.skolelinux.org/debian
12630 tmpdir=chroot-$from-upgrade-$to-$desktop
12632 debootstrap $from $tmpdir $mirror
12633 chroot $tmpdir aptitude update
12634 cat
> $tmpdir/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d
<<EOF
12638 chmod a+rx $tmpdir/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d
12640 umount $tmpdir/proc
12642 mount -t proc proc $tmpdir/proc
12643 # Make sure proc is unmounted also on failure
12644 trap exit_cleanup EXIT INT
12646 chroot $tmpdir aptitude -y install debconf-utils
12648 # Make sure tasksel autoselection trigger. It need the test scripts
12649 # to return the correct answers.
12650 echo tasksel tasksel/desktop multiselect $desktop | \
12651 chroot $tmpdir debconf-set-selections
12653 # Include the desktop and laptop task
12654 for test in desktop laptop ; do
12655 echo
> $tmpdir/usr/lib/tasksel/tests/$test
<<EOF
12659 chmod a+rx $tmpdir/usr/lib/tasksel/tests/$test
12662 DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
12663 DEBIAN_PRIORITY=critical
12664 export DEBIAN_FRONTEND DEBIAN_PRIORITY
12665 chroot $tmpdir tasksel --new-install
12667 echo deb $mirror $to main
> $tmpdir/etc/apt/sources.list
12668 chroot $tmpdir aptitude update
12669 touch $tmpdir/etc/udev/kernel-upgrade
12670 chroot $tmpdir aptitude -y dist-upgrade
12672 </pre></blockquote>
12674 <p>I suspect it would be useful to test upgrades with both apt-get and
12675 with aptitude, but I have not had time to look at how they behave
12676 differently so far. I hope to get a cron job running to do the test
12677 regularly and post the result on the web. The Gnome upgrade currently
12678 work, while the KDE upgrade fail because of the bug in
12679 kdebase-workspace-data
</p>
12681 <p>I am not quite sure what kind of extract from the huge upgrade logs
12682 (KDE
167 KiB, Gnome
516 KiB) it make sense to include in this blog
12683 post, so I will refrain from trying. I can report that for Gnome,
12684 aptitude report
760 packages upgraded,
448 newly installed,
129 to
12685 remove and
1 not upgraded and
1024MB need to be downloaded while for
12686 KDE the same numbers are
702 packages upgraded,
507 newly installed,
12687 193 to remove and
0 not upgraded and
1117MB need to be downloaded
</p>
12689 <p>I am very happy to notice that the Gnome desktop + laptop upgrade
12690 is able to migrate to dependency based boot sequencing and parallel
12691 booting without a hitch. Was unsure if there were still bugs with
12692 packages failing to clean up their obsolete init.d script during
12693 upgrades, and no such problem seem to affect the Gnome desktop+laptop
12700 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
12705 <div class=
"padding"></div>
12707 <div class=
"entry">
12708 <div class=
"title">
12709 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Skolelinux_er_laget_for_sentraldrifting__naturligvis.html">Skolelinux er laget for sentraldrifting, naturligvis
</a>
12715 <p>Det er merkelig hvordan myter om Skolelinux overlever. En slik
12716 myte er at Skolelinux ikke kan sentraldriftes og ha sentralt plasserte
12717 tjenermaskiner. I siste Computerworld Norge er
12718 <a href=
"http://www.idg.no/computerworld/article169432.ece">IT-sjef
12719 Viggo Billdal i Steinkjer intervjuet
</a>, og forteller uten
12722 <blockquote><p>Vi hadde Skolelinux, men det har vi sluttet med. Vi testet
12723 om det lønte seg med Microsoft eller en åpen plattform. Vi fant ut at
12724 Microsoft egentlig var totalt sett bedre egnet. Det var store
12725 driftskostnader med Skolelinux, blant annet på grunn av
12726 desentraliserte servere. Det var komplisert, så vi gikk vekk fra det
12727 og bruker nå bare Windows.
</p></blockquote>
12730 href=
"https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/bruker/2010-June/009101.html">rask
12731 sjekk
</a> mot den norske brukerlista i Skolelinuxprosjektet forteller
12732 at Steinkjers forsøk foregikk fram til
2004/
2005, og at Røysing skole
12733 i Steinkjer skal ha vært svært fornøyd med Skolelinux men at kommunen
12734 overkjørte skolen og krevde at de gikk over til Windows. Et søk på
12735 nettet sendte meg til
12736 <a href=
"http://www.dn.no/multimedia/archive/00090/Dagens_it_nr__18_90826a.pdf">Dagens
12737 IT nr.
18 2005</a> hvor en kan lese på side
18:
</p>
12739 <blockquote><p>Inge Tømmerås ved Røysing skole i Steinkjer kjører ennå
12740 Microsoft, men forteller at kompetanseutfordringen med Skolelinux ikke
12741 var så stor. Jeg syntes Skolelinux var utrolig lett å drifte uten
12742 forkunnskaper. Men man må jo selvsagt ha tilgang på ekstern kompetanse
12743 til installasjoner og maskinvarefeil, sier Tømmerås.
</p></blockquote>
12745 <p>Som systemarkitekten bak Skolelinux, kan jeg bare riste på hodet
12746 over påstanden om at Skolelinux krever desentraliserte tjenere.
12747 Skolelinux-arkitekturen er laget for sentralisert drift og plassering
12748 av tjenerne lokalt eller sentralt alt etter behov og nettkapasitet.
12749 Den er modellert på nettverks- og tjenerløsningen som brukes på
12750 Universitetet i Tromsø og Oslo, der jeg jobber med utvikling av
12751 driftstjenester. Dette er det heldigvis noen som har fått med seg, og
12752 jeg er glad for å kunne sitere fra en kommentar på den overnevnte
12753 artikkelen. Min venn og gamle kollega Sturle Sunde forteller der:
12756 <p>I Flora kommune køyrer vi Skulelinux på skular med alt frå
15 til
12757 meir enn
500 elevar. Dei store skulane har eigen tenar, for det er
12758 mest praktisk. Eg, som er driftsansvarleg for heile nettet, ser
12759 sjeldan dei tenarane fysisk, men at dei står der gjer skulane mindre
12760 avhengige av eksterne linjer som er trege eller dyre. Dei minste
12761 skulane har ikkje eigen tenar. Å bruke sentral tenar er heller ikkje
12762 noko problem. Småskulane klarar seg fint med
1 mbit-linje til ein
12763 sentral tenar eller tenaren på ein større skule.
</p>
12765 <p>Det beste med Skulelinux er halvtjukke klientar. Dei treng ikkje
12766 harddisk og brukar minimalt med ressursar på tenaren fordi dei køyrer
12767 programma lokalt. Eit klasserom med
30 sju-åtte år gamle maskiner har
12768 mykje meir CPU og RAM totalt enn nokon moderne tenar til under
12769 millionen. Det trengst to kommandoar på den sentrale tenaren for å
12770 oppdatere alle klientane, både tynne og halvtjukke. Vi har ingen
12771 problem med diskar som ryk heller, som var eit problem før fordi
12772 elevane sat og sparka i maskinene. Og dei krev lite bandbreidde i
12773 nettet, so det er fullt mogleg å køyre slike på småskular med trege
12774 linjer mot tenaren på ein større skule.
</p>
12776 <p>Flora kommune har nesten
800 Linux-maskiner i sitt skulenett, og
12777 ein person som tek seg av drift av heile nettet, inkludert tenarar,
12778 klientar, operativsystem, programvare, heimekontorløysing og
12779 administrasjon av brukarar.
</p>
12781 <p>No skal det seiast at vi ikkje køyrer rein Skulelinux ut av
12782 boksen. Vi har gjort ein del tilpassingar mot noko Novell-greier som
12783 var der frå før, og som har komplisert installasjonen vår. Etter at
12784 oppsettet var gjort har løysinga vore stabil og kravd minimalt med
12788 <p>Jeg vet at Narvik, Harstad og Oslo er kommuner der Skolelinux
12789 sentraldriftes med sentrale tjenere. Det forteller meg at Steinkjers
12790 IT-sjef neppe bør skylde på Skolelinux-løsningen for sine
5 år gamle
12797 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
12802 <div class=
"padding"></div>
12804 <div class=
"entry">
12805 <div class=
"title">
12806 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/A_manual_for_standards_wars___.html">A manual for standards wars...
</a>
12813 <a href=
"http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/robweir/antic-atom/~3/QzU4RgoAGMg/weekly-links-10.html">blog
12814 of Rob Weir
</a> I came across the very interesting essay named
12815 <a href=
"http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/shapiro/wars.pdf">The Art of
12816 Standards Wars
</a> (PDF
25 pages). I recommend it for everyone
12817 following the standards wars of today.
</p>
12823 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard
</a>.
12828 <div class=
"padding"></div>
12830 <div class=
"entry">
12831 <div class=
"title">
12832 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Sitesummary_tip__Listing_computer_hardware_models_used_at_site.html">Sitesummary tip: Listing computer hardware models used at site
</a>
12838 <p>When using sitesummary at a site to track machines, it is possible
12839 to get a list of the machine types in use thanks to the DMI
12840 information extracted from each machine. The script to do so is
12841 included in the sitesummary package, and here is example output from
12842 the Skolelinux build servers:
</p>
12845 maintainer:~# /usr/lib/sitesummary/hardware-model-summary
12847 Dell Computer Corporation
1
12850 eserver xSeries
345 -[
8670M1X]-
1
12854 </pre></blockquote>
12856 <p>The quality of the report depend on the quality of the DMI tables
12857 provided in each machine. Here there are Intel machines without model
12858 information listed with Intel as vendor and no model, and virtual Xen
12859 machines listed as [no-dmi-info]. One can add -l as a command line
12860 option to list the individual machines.
</p>
12862 <p>A larger list is
12863 <a href=
"http://narvikskolen.no/sitesummary/">available from the the
12864 city of Narvik
</a>, which uses Skolelinux on all their shools and also
12865 provide the basic sitesummary report publicly. In their report there
12866 are ~
1400 machines. I know they use both Ubuntu and Skolelinux on
12867 their machines, and as sitesummary is available in both distributions,
12868 it is trivial to get all of them to report to the same central
12875 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary
</a>.
12880 <div class=
"padding"></div>
12882 <div class=
"entry">
12883 <div class=
"title">
12884 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/KDM_fail_at_boot_with_NVidia_cards___and_no_one_try_to_fix_it_.html">KDM fail at boot with NVidia cards - and no one try to fix it?
</a>
12890 <p>It is strange to watch how a bug in Debian causing KDM to fail to
12891 start at boot when an NVidia video card is used is handled. The
12892 problem seem to be that the nvidia X.org driver uses a long time to
12893 initialize, and this duration is longer than kdm is configured to
12896 <p>I came across two bugs related to this issue,
12897 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/583312">#
583312</a> initially filed
12898 against initscripts and passed on to nvidia-glx when it became obvious
12899 that the nvidia drivers were involved, and
12900 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/524751">#
524751</a> initially filed against
12901 kdm and passed on to src:nvidia-graphics-drivers for unknown reasons.
</p>
12903 <p>To me, it seem that no-one is interested in actually solving the
12904 problem nvidia video card owners experience and make sure the Debian
12905 distribution work out of the box for these users. The nvidia driver
12906 maintainers expect kdm to be set up to wait longer, while kdm expect
12907 the nvidia driver maintainers to fix the driver to start faster, and
12908 while they wait for each other I guess the users end up switching to a
12909 distribution that work for them. I have no idea what the solution is,
12910 but I am pretty sure that waiting for each other is not it.
</p>
12912 <p>I wonder why we end up handling bugs this way.
</p>
12918 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
12923 <div class=
"padding"></div>
12925 <div class=
"entry">
12926 <div class=
"title">
12927 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Parallellized_boot_seem_to_hold_up_well_in_Debian_testing.html">Parallellized boot seem to hold up well in Debian/testing
</a>
12933 <p>A few days ago, parallel booting was enabled in Debian/testing.
12934 The feature seem to hold up pretty well, but three fairly serious
12935 issues are known and should be solved:
12939 <li>The wicd package seen to
12940 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/508289">break NFS mounting
</a> and
12941 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/581586">network setup
</a> when
12942 parallel booting is enabled. No idea why, but the wicd maintainer
12943 seem to be on the case.
</li>
12945 <li>The nvidia X driver seem to
12946 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/583312">have a race condition
</a>
12947 triggered more easily when parallel booting is in effect. The
12948 maintainer is on the case.
</li>
12950 <li>The sysv-rc package fail to properly enable dependency based boot
12951 sequencing (the shutdown is broken) when old file-rc users
12952 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/575080">try to switch back
</a> to
12953 sysv-rc. One way to solve it would be for file-rc to create
12954 /etc/init.d/.legacy-bootordering, and another is to try to make
12955 sysv-rc more robust. Will investigate some more and probably upload a
12956 workaround in sysv-rc to help those trying to move from file-rc to
12957 sysv-rc get a working shutdown.
</li>
12961 <p>All in all not many surprising issues, and all of them seem
12962 solvable before Squeeze is released. In addition to these there are
12963 some packages with bugs in their dependencies and run level settings,
12964 which I expect will be fixed in a reasonable time span.
</p>
12966 <p>If you report any problems with dependencies in init.d scripts to
12967 the BTS, please usertag the report to get it to show up at
12968 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=initscripts-ng-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org">the
12969 list of usertagged bugs related to this
</a>.
</p>
12971 <p>Update: Correct bug number to file-rc issue.
</p>
12977 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
12982 <div class=
"padding"></div>
12984 <div class=
"entry">
12985 <div class=
"title">
12986 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/More_flexible_firmware_handling_in_debian_installer.html">More flexible firmware handling in debian-installer
</a>
12992 <p>After a long break from debian-installer development, I finally
12993 found time today to return to the project. Having to spend less time
12994 working dependency based boot in debian, as it is almost complete now,
12995 definitely helped freeing some time.
</p>
12997 <p>A while back, I ran into a problem while working on Debian Edu. We
12998 include some firmware packages on the Debian Edu CDs, those needed to
12999 get disk and network controllers working. Without having these
13000 firmware packages available during installation, it is impossible to
13001 install Debian Edu on the given machine, and because our target group
13002 are non-technical people, asking them to provide firmware packages on
13003 an external medium is a support pain. Initially, I expected it to be
13004 enough to include the firmware packages on the CD to get
13005 debian-installer to find and use them. This proved to be wrong.
13006 Next, I hoped it was enough to symlink the relevant firmware packages
13007 to some useful location on the CD (tried /cdrom/ and
13008 /cdrom/firmware/). This also proved to not work, and at this point I
13009 found time to look at the debian-installer code to figure out what was
13012 <p>The firmware loading code is in the hw-detect package, and a closer
13013 look revealed that it would only look for firmware packages outside
13014 the installation media, so the CD was never checked for firmware
13015 packages. It would only check USB sticks, floppies and other
13016 "external" media devices. Today I changed it to also look in the
13017 /cdrom/firmware/ directory on the mounted CD or DVD, which should
13018 solve the problem I ran into with Debian edu. I also changed it to
13019 look in /firmware/, to make sure the installer also find firmware
13020 provided in the initrd when booting the installer via PXE, to allow us
13021 to provide the same feature in the PXE setup included in Debian
13024 <p>To make sure firmware deb packages with a license questions are not
13025 activated without asking if the license is accepted, I extended
13026 hw-detect to look for preinst scripts in the firmware packages, and
13027 run these before activating the firmware during installation. The
13028 license question is asked using debconf in the preinst, so this should
13029 solve the issue for the firmware packages I have looked at so far.
</p>
13031 <p>If you want to discuss the details of these features, please
13032 contact us on debian-boot@lists.debian.org.
</p>
13038 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
13043 <div class=
"padding"></div>
13045 <div class=
"entry">
13046 <div class=
"title">
13047 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Pieces_of_the_roaming_laptop_puzzle_in_Debian.html">Pieces of the roaming laptop puzzle in Debian
</a>
13053 <p>Today, the last piece of the puzzle for roaming laptops in Debian
13054 Edu finally entered the Debian archive. Today, the new
13055 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/libp/libpam-mklocaluser.html">libpam-mklocaluser
</a>
13056 package was accepted. Two days ago, two other pieces was accepted
13058 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/pam-python.html">pam-python
</a>
13059 package needed by libpam-mklocaluser, and the
13060 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/sssd.html">sssd
</a> package
13061 passed NEW on Monday. In addition, the
13062 <a href=
"http://packages.qa.debian.org/libp/libpam-ccreds.html">libpam-ccreds
</a>
13063 package we need is in experimental (version
10-
4) since Saturday, and
13064 hopefully will be moved to unstable soon.
</p>
13066 <p>This collection of packages allow for two different setups for
13067 roaming laptops. The traditional setup would be using libpam-ccreds,
13068 nscd and libpam-mklocaluser with LDAP or Kerberos authentication,
13069 which should work out of the box if the configuration changes proposed
13070 for nscd in
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/485282">BTS report
13071 #
485282</a> is implemented. The alternative setup is to use sssd with
13072 libpam-mklocaluser to connect to LDAP or Kerberos and let sssd take
13073 care of the caching of passwords and group information.
</p>
13075 <p>I have so far been unable to get sssd to work with the LDAP server
13076 at the University, but suspect the issue is some SSL/GnuTLS related
13077 problem with the server certificate. I plan to update the Debian
13078 package to version
1.2, which is scheduled for next week, and hope to
13079 find time to make sure the next release will include both the
13080 Debian/Ubuntu specific patches. Upstream is friendly and responsive,
13081 and I am sure we will find a good solution.
</p>
13083 <p>The idea is to set up the roaming laptops to authenticate using
13084 LDAP or Kerberos and create a local user with home directory in /home/
13085 when a usre in LDAP logs in via KDM or GDM for the first time, and
13086 cache the password for offline checking, as well as caching group
13087 memberhips and other relevant LDAP information. The
13088 libpam-mklocaluser package was created to make sure the local home
13089 directory is in /home/, instead of /site/server/directory/ which would
13090 be the home directory if pam_mkhomedir was used. To avoid confusion
13091 with support requests and configuration, we do not want local laptops
13092 to have users in a path that is used for the same users home directory
13093 on the home directory servers.
</p>
13095 <p>One annoying problem with gdm is that it do not show the PAM
13096 message passed to the user from libpam-mklocaluser when the local user
13097 is created. Instead gdm simply reject the login with some generic
13098 message. The message is shown in kdm, ssh and login, so I guess it is
13099 a bug in gdm. Have not investigated if there is some other message
13100 type that can be used instead to get gdm to also show the message.
</p>
13102 <p>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
13103 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p>
13109 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
13114 <div class=
"padding"></div>
13116 <div class=
"entry">
13117 <div class=
"title">
13118 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Parallellized_boot_is_now_the_default_in_Debian_unstable.html">Parallellized boot is now the default in Debian/unstable
</a>
13124 <p>Since this evening, parallel booting is the default in
13125 Debian/unstable for machines using dependency based boot sequencing.
13126 Apparently the testing of concurrent booting has been wider than
13127 expected, if I am to believe the
13128 <a href=
"http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/05/msg00122.html">input
13129 on debian-devel@
</a>, and I concluded a few days ago to move forward
13130 with the feature this weekend, to give us some time to detect any
13131 remaining problems before Squeeze is frozen. If serious problems are
13132 detected, it is simple to change the default back to sequential boot.
13133 The upload of the new sysvinit package also activate a new upstream
13136 More information about
13137 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot">dependency
13138 based boot sequencing
</a> is available from the Debian wiki. It is
13139 currently possible to disable parallel booting when one run into
13140 problems caused by it, by adding this line to /etc/default/rcS:
</p>
13144 </pre></blockquote>
13146 <p>If you report any problems with dependencies in init.d scripts to
13147 the BTS, please usertag the report to get it to show up at
13148 <a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=initscripts-ng-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org">the
13149 list of usertagged bugs related to this
</a>.
</p>
13155 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>.
13160 <div class=
"padding"></div>
13162 <div class=
"entry">
13163 <div class=
"title">
13164 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Sitesummary_tip__Listing_MAC_address_of_all_clients.html">Sitesummary tip: Listing MAC address of all clients
</a>
13170 <p>In the recent Debian Edu versions, the
13171 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/SiteSummary">sitesummary
13172 system
</a> is used to keep track of the machines in the school
13173 network. Each machine will automatically report its status to the
13174 central server after boot and once per night. The network setup is
13175 also reported, and using this information it is possible to get the
13176 MAC address of all network interfaces in the machines. This is useful
13177 to update the DHCP configuration.
</p>
13179 <p>To give some idea how to use sitesummary, here is a one-liner to
13180 ist all MAC addresses of all machines reporting to sitesummary. Run
13181 this on the collector host:
</p>
13184 perl -MSiteSummary -e 'for_all_hosts(sub { print join(" ", get_macaddresses(shift)), "\n"; });'
13185 </pre></blockquote>
13187 <p>This will list all MAC addresses assosiated with all machine, one
13188 line per machine and with space between the MAC addresses.
</p>
13190 <p>To allow system administrators easier job at adding static DHCP
13191 addresses for hosts, it would be possible to extend this to fetch
13192 machine information from sitesummary and update the DHCP and DNS
13193 tables in LDAP using this information. Such tool is unfortunately not
13200 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary
</a>.
13205 <div class=
"padding"></div>
13207 <div class=
"entry">
13208 <div class=
"title">
13209 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Forcing_new_users_to_change_their_password_on_first_login.html">Forcing new users to change their password on first login
</a>
13215 <p>One interesting feature in Active Directory, is the ability to
13216 create a new user with an expired password, and thus force the user to
13217 change the password on the first login attempt.
</p>
13219 <p>I'm not quite sure how to do that with the LDAP setup in Debian
13220 Edu, but did some initial testing with a local account. The account
13221 and password aging information is available in /etc/shadow, but
13222 unfortunately, it is not possible to specify an expiration time for
13223 passwords, only a maximum age for passwords.
</p>
13225 <p>A freshly created account (using adduser test) will have these
13226 settings in /etc/shadow:
</p>
13229 root@tjener:~# chage -l test
13230 Last password change : May
02,
2010
13231 Password expires : never
13232 Password inactive : never
13233 Account expires : never
13234 Minimum number of days between password change :
0
13235 Maximum number of days between password change :
99999
13236 Number of days of warning before password expires :
7
13238 </pre></blockquote>
13240 <p>The only way I could come up with to create a user with an expired
13241 account, is to change the date of the last password change to the
13242 lowest value possible (January
1th
1970), and the maximum password age
13243 to the difference in days between that date and today. To make it
13244 simple, I went for
30 years (
30 *
365 =
10950) and January
2th (to
13245 avoid testing if
0 is a valid value).
</p>
13247 <p>After using these commands to set it up, it seem to work as
13251 root@tjener:~# chage -d
1 test; chage -M
10950 test
13252 root@tjener:~# chage -l test
13253 Last password change : Jan
02,
1970
13254 Password expires : never
13255 Password inactive : never
13256 Account expires : never
13257 Minimum number of days between password change :
0
13258 Maximum number of days between password change :
10950
13259 Number of days of warning before password expires :
7
13261 </pre></blockquote>
13263 <p>So far I have tested this with ssh and console, and kdm (in
13264 Squeeze) login, and all ask for a new password before login in the
13265 user (with ssh, I was thrown out and had to log in again).
</p>
13267 <p>Perhaps we should set up something similar for Debian Edu, to make
13268 sure only the user itself have the account password?
</p>
13270 <p>If you want to comment on or help out with implementing this for
13271 Debian Edu, please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p>
13273 <p>Update
2010-
05-
02 17:
20: Paul Tötterman tells me on IRC that the
13274 shadow(
8) page in Debian/testing now state that setting the date of
13275 last password change to zero (
0) will force the password to be changed
13276 on the first login. This was not mentioned in the manual in Lenny, so
13277 I did not notice this in my initial testing. I have tested it on
13278 Squeeze, and '
<tt>chage -d
0 username
</tt>' do work there. I have not
13279 tested it on Lenny yet.
</p>
13281 <p>Update
2010-
05-
02-
19:
05: Jim Paris tells me via email that an
13282 equivalent command to expire a password is '
<tt>passwd -e
13283 username
</tt>', which insert zero into the date of the last password
13290 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet
</a>.
13295 <div class=
"padding"></div>
13297 <div class=
"entry">
13298 <div class=
"title">
13299 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Thoughts_on_roaming_laptop_setup_for_Debian_Edu.html">Thoughts on roaming laptop setup for Debian Edu
</a>
13305 <p>For some years now, I have wondered how we should handle laptops in
13306 Debian Edu. The Debian Edu infrastructure is mostly designed to
13307 handle stationary computers, and less suited for computers that come
13310 <p>Now I finally believe I have an sensible idea on how to adjust
13311 Debian Edu for laptops, by introducing a new profile for them, for
13312 example called Roaming Workstations. Here are my thought on this.
13313 The setup would consist of the following:
</p>
13317 <li>During installation, the user name of the owner / primary user of
13318 the laptop is requested and a local home directory is set up for
13319 the user, with uid and gid information fetched from the LDAP
13320 server. This allow the user to work also when offline. The
13321 central home directory can be available in a subdirectory on
13322 request, for example mounted via CIFS. It could be mounted
13323 automatically when a user log in while on the Debian Edu network,
13324 and unmounted when the machine is taken away (network down,
13325 hibernate, etc), it can be set up to do automatic mounting on
13326 request (using autofs), or perhaps some GUI button on the desktop
13327 can be used to access it when needed. Perhaps it is enough to use
13328 the fish protocol in KDE?
</li>
13330 <li>Password checking is set up to use LDAP or Kerberos
13331 authentication when the machine is on the Debian Edu network, and
13332 to cache the password for offline checking when the machine unable
13333 to reach the LDAP or Kerberos server. This can be done using
13334 <a href=
"http://www.padl.com/OSS/pam_ccreds.html">libpam-ccreds
</a>
13335 or the Fedora developed
13336 <a href=
"https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SSSD">System
13337 Security Services Daemon
</a> packages.
</li>
13339 <li>File synchronisation with the central home directory is set up
13340 using a shared directory in both the local and the central home
13341 directory, using unison.
</li>
13343 <li>Printing should be set up to print to all printers broadcasting
13344 their existence on the local network, and should then work out of
13345 the box with CUPS. For sites needing accurate printer quotas, some
13346 system with Kerberos authentication or printing via ssh could be
13349 <li>For users that should have local root access to their laptop,
13350 sudo should be used to allow this to the local user.
</li>
13352 <li>It would be nice if user and group information from LDAP is
13353 cached on the client, but given that there are entries for the
13354 local user and primary group in /etc/, it should not be needed.
</li>
13358 <p>I believe all the pieces to implement this are in Debian/testing at
13359 the moment. If we work quickly, we should be able to get this ready
13360 in time for the Squeeze release to freeze. Some of the pieces need
13361 tweaking, like libpam-ccreds should get support for pam-auth-update
13362 (
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/566718">#
566718</a>) and nslcd (or
13363 perhaps debian-edu-config) should get some integration code to stop
13364 its daemon when the LDAP server is unavailable to avoid long timeouts
13365 when disconnected from the net. If we get Kerberos enabled, we need
13366 to make sure we avoid long timeouts there too.
</p>
13368 <p>If you want to help out with implementing this for Debian Edu,
13369 please contact us on debian-edu@lists.debian.org.
</p>
13375 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
13380 <div class=
"padding"></div>
13382 <div class=
"entry">
13383 <div class=
"title">
13384 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Kerberos_for_Debian_Edu_Squeeze_.html">Kerberos for Debian Edu/Squeeze?
</a>
13390 <p><a href=
"http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20100413-kerberos/">Yesterdays
13391 NUUG presentation
</a> about Kerberos was inspiring, and reminded me
13392 about the need to start using Kerberos in Skolelinux. Setting up a
13393 Kerberos server seem to be straight forward, and if we get this in
13394 place a long time before the Squeeze version of Debian freezes, we
13395 have a chance to migrate Skolelinux away from NFSv3 for the home
13396 directories, and over to an architecture where the infrastructure do
13397 not have to trust IP addresses and machines, and instead can trust
13398 users and cryptographic keys instead.
</p>
13400 <p>A challenge will be integration and administration. Is there a
13401 Kerberos implementation for Debian where one can control the
13402 administration access in Kerberos using LDAP groups? With it, the
13403 school administration will have to maintain access control using flat
13404 files on the main server, which give a huge potential for errors.
</p>
13406 <p>A related question I would like to know is how well Kerberos and
13407 pam-ccreds (offline password check) work together. Anyone know?
</p>
13409 <p>Next step will be to use Kerberos for access control in Lwat and
13410 Nagios. I have no idea how much work that will be to implement. We
13411 would also need to document how to integrate with Windows AD, as such
13412 shared network will require two Kerberos realms that need to cooperate
13413 to work properly.
</p>
13415 <p>I believe a good start would be to start using Kerberos on the
13416 skolelinux.no machines, and this way get ourselves experience with
13417 configuration and integration. A natural starting point would be
13418 setting up ldap.skolelinux.no as the Kerberos server, and migrate the
13419 rest of the machines from PAM via LDAP to PAM via Kerberos one at the
13422 <p>If you would like to contribute to get this working in Skolelinux,
13423 I recommend you to see the video recording from yesterdays NUUG
13424 presentation, and start using Kerberos at home. The video show show
13425 up in a few days.
</p>
13431 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
13436 <div class=
"padding"></div>
13438 <div class=
"entry">
13439 <div class=
"title">
13440 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/After_6_years_of_waiting__the_Xreset_d_feature_is_implemented.html">After
6 years of waiting, the Xreset.d feature is implemented
</a>
13446 <p>6 years ago, as part of the Debian Edu development I am involved
13447 in, I asked for a hook in the kdm and gdm setup to run scripts as root
13448 when the user log out. A bug was submitted against the xfree86-common
13449 package in
2004 (
<a href=
"http://bugs.debian.org/230422">#
230422</a>),
13450 and revisited every time Debian Edu was working on a new release.
13451 Today, this finally paid off.
</p>
13453 <p>The framework for this feature was today commited to the git
13454 repositry for the xorg package, and the git repository for xdm has
13455 been updated to use this framework. Next on my agenda is to make sure
13456 kdm and gdm also add code to use this framework.
</p>
13458 <p>In Debian Edu, we want to ability to run commands as root when the
13459 user log out, to get rid of runaway processes and do general cleanup
13460 after a user. With this framework in place, we finally can do that in
13461 a generic way that work with all display managers using this
13462 framework. My goal is to get all display managers in Debian use it,
13463 similar to how they use the Xsession.d framework today.
<p>
13469 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
13474 <div class=
"padding"></div>
13476 <div class=
"entry">
13477 <div class=
"title">
13478 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu___Skolelinux_based_on_Lenny_released__work_continues.html">Debian Edu / Skolelinux based on Lenny released, work continues
</a>
13484 <p>On Tuesday, the Debian/Lenny based version of
13485 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a> was finally
13486 shipped. This was a major leap forward for the project, and I am very
13487 pleased that we finally got the release wrapped up. Work on the first
13488 point release starts imediately, as we plan to get that one out a
13489 month after the major release, to include all fixes for bugs we found
13490 and fixed too late in the release process to include last Tuesday.
</p>
13492 <p>Perhaps it even is time for some partying?
</p>
13494 <p>After this first point release, my plan is to focus again on the
13495 next major release, based on Squeeze. We will try to get as many of
13496 the fixes we need into the official Debian packages before the freeze,
13497 and have just a few weeks or months to make it happen.
</p>
13503 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
13508 <div class=
"padding"></div>
13510 <div class=
"entry">
13511 <div class=
"title">
13512 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Automatic_Munin_and_Nagios_configuration.html">Automatic Munin and Nagios configuration
</a>
13518 <p>One of the new features in the next Debian/Lenny based release of
13519 Debian Edu/Skolelinux, which is scheduled for release in the next few
13520 days, is automatic configuration of the service monitoring system
13521 Nagios. The previous release had automatic configuration of trend
13522 analysis using Munin, and this Lenny based release take that a step
13525 <p>When installing a Debian Edu Main-server, it is automatically
13526 configured as a Munin and Nagios server. In addition, it is
13527 configured to be a server for the
13528 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/SiteSummary">SiteSummary
13529 system
</a> I have written for use in Debian Edu. The SiteSummary
13530 system is inspired by a system used by the University of Oslo where I
13531 work. In short, the system provide a centralised collector of
13532 information about the computers on the network, and a client on each
13533 computer submitting information to this collector. This allow for
13534 automatic information on which packages are installed on each machine,
13535 which kernel the machines are using, what kind of configuration the
13536 packages got etc. This also allow us to automatically generate Munin
13537 and Nagios configuration.
</p>
13539 <p>All computers reporting to the sitesummary collector with the
13540 munin-node package installed is automatically enabled as a Munin
13541 client and graphs from the statistics collected from that machine show
13542 up automatically on http://www/munin/ on the Main-server.
</p>
13544 <p>All non-laptop computers reporting to the sitesummary collector are
13545 automatically monitored for network presence (ping and any network
13546 services detected). In addition, all computers (also laptops) with
13547 the nagios-nrpe-server package installed and configured the way
13548 sitesummary would configure it, are monitored for full disks, software
13549 raid status, swap free and other checks that need to run locally on
13552 <p>The result is that the administrator on a school using Debian Edu
13553 based on Lenny will be able to check the health of his installation
13554 with one look at the Nagios settings, without having to spend any time
13555 keeping the Nagios configuration up-to-date.
</p>
13557 <p>The only configuration one need to do to get Nagios up and running
13558 is to set the password used to get access via HTTP. The system
13559 administrator need to run "
<tt>htpasswd /etc/nagios3/htpasswd.users
13560 nagiosadmin
</tt>" to create a nagiosadmin user and set a password for
13561 it to be able to log into the Nagios web pages. After that,
13562 everything is taken care of.</p>
13568 Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu
">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english
">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug
">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary
">sitesummary</a>.
13573 <div class="padding
"></div>
13575 <div class="entry
">
13576 <div class="title
">
13577 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Opphavet_til_Skolelinux_prosjektet.html
">Opphavet til Skolelinux-prosjektet</a>
13583 <p>De færreste er klar over at Skolelinux-prosjektet kom som et resultat
13584 av en avgjørelse på årsmøtet i
13585 <a href="http://www.nuug.no/
">NUUG</a> i 2000-06-29, der Håkon Wium
13586 Lie, da varamedlem i styret, tok på seg oppdraget om å starte et
13587 initiativ kalt "Teach the Teacher", som skulle være et initiativ for
13588 å få fri programvare og unix-lignende operativsystemer inn i Skolen.
13589 Tanken var at en måtte starte med lærerne for at ungene skulle få
13590 mulighet til å møte en bedre IT-hverdag. Jeg var tilstede på
13591 møtet, og hadde sans for ideen, men intet skjedde. På vårparten
13592 2001 ble det arrangert en demonstrasjon i anledning at First Tuesday
13593 hadde invitert Microsoft til et møte for å fortelle om fremtidens
13594 Internet. Dette provoserte endel av oss, og EFN og NUUG tok initiativ
13596 <a href=
"http://www.digi.no/60982/first-tuesday-mote-med-microsoft-protest">en
13597 demonstrasjon utenfor lokalene
2001-
05-
21</a>. Blant de som sto bak
13598 demonstrasjonen var Vidar Bakke fra NUUG og Håkon W. Lie fra EFN.
13599 Etter demonstrasjonen arrangerte Håkon en fest hjemme hos seg der alle
13600 som hadde vært aktive i demonstrasjonsplanlegging og gjennomføringen
13601 deltok. Før festen var jeg blitt lei av å vente på at Håkon skulle ta
13602 initiativ til "Teach the Teacher", og for å forsøke å få litt fremgang
13603 besteme jeg meg for å benytte anledningen hos Håkon til å snakke om
13604 behovet for å hjelpe skolene i gang med bedre datasystemer bestående
13605 av fri programvare og unix-lignende operativsystemer. Flere var
13606 interessert, og Knut Yrvin tenkte på ideen. Han
13607 <a href=
"http://developer.skolelinux.no/brev/2001-06-28-invitasjon-skolelinux.txt">ropte
13608 sammen
</a> til et stiftelsesmøte i prosjektet i sin arbeidsgivers
13609 Objectwares lokaler ved Ullevål stadion
2001-
07-
02, og jeg ble med.
13610 Resten er historie. :)
</p>
13616 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
13621 <div class=
"padding"></div>
13623 <div class=
"entry">
13624 <div class=
"title">
13625 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Endelig_operativt_webbasert_medlemsregister_for_Fri_programvare_i_skolen.html">Endelig operativt webbasert medlemsregister for Fri programvare i skolen
</a>
13631 <p>Under helgens utviklersamling i
13632 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.no/">Skolelinux
</a> fikk jeg endelig
13633 satt meg ned sammen med Ronny Aasen i styret for å få et webbasert
13634 medlemsregister tilbake på plass for foreningen som passer på
13635 skolelinuxprosjektet. Etter flere års knot og problemer, er nå
13636 memberdb satt opp og klart til bruk. Import av det gamle
13637 medlemsregisteret har vist seg vanskelig, så alle medlemmer bes om å
13638 registrere seg på nytt. Hvis du støtter FRiSKs formål så er du
13639 hjertelig velkommen til
13640 <a href=
"http://medlem.friprogramvareiskolen.no/">å melde deg
13641 inn
</a>. Formålet lyder:
</p>
13643 <blockquote>Linux i skolen skal tilrettelegge for og informere om bruk
13644 av fri programvare, i henhold til Debian Free Software Guidelines av
13645 2002-
02-
03, i den norske skolen, slik som f.eks. Linux og
13652 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
13657 <div class=
"padding"></div>
13659 <div class=
"entry">
13660 <div class=
"title">
13661 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Returning_from_Skolelinux_developer_gathering.html">Returning from Skolelinux developer gathering
</a>
13667 <p>I'm sitting on the train going home from this weekends Debian
13668 Edu/Skolelinux development gathering. I got a bit done tuning the
13669 desktop, and looked into the dynamic service location protocol
13670 implementation avahi. It look like it could be useful for us. Almost
13671 30 people participated, and I believe it was a great environment to
13672 get to know the Skolelinux system. Walter Bender, involved in the
13673 development of the Sugar educational platform, presented his stuff and
13674 also helped me improve my OLPC installation. He also showed me that
13675 his Turtle Art application can be used in standalone mode, and we
13676 agreed that I would help getting it packaged for Debian. As a
13677 standalone application it would be great for Debian Edu. We also
13678 tried to get the video conferencing working with two OLPCs, but that
13679 proved to be too hard for us. The application seem to need more work
13680 before it is ready for me. I look forward to getting home and relax
13687 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
13692 <div class=
"padding"></div>
13694 <div class=
"entry">
13695 <div class=
"title">
13696 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Time_for_new__LDAP_schemas_replacing_RFC_2307_.html">Time for new LDAP schemas replacing RFC
2307?
</a>
13702 <p>The state of standardized LDAP schemas on Linux is far from
13703 optimal. There is RFC
2307 documenting one way to store NIS maps in
13704 LDAP, and a modified version of this normally called RFC
2307bis, with
13705 some modifications to be compatible with Active Directory. The RFC
13706 specification handle the content of a lot of system databases, but do
13707 not handle DNS zones and DHCP configuration.
</p>
13709 <p>In
<a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu/Skolelinux
</a>,
13710 we would like to store information about users, SMB clients/hosts,
13711 filegroups, netgroups (users and hosts), DHCP and DNS configuration,
13712 and LTSP configuration in LDAP. These objects have a lot in common,
13713 but with the current LDAP schemas it is not possible to have one
13714 object per entity. For example, one need to have at least three LDAP
13715 objects for a given computer, one with the SMB related stuff, one with
13716 DNS information and another with DHCP information. The schemas
13717 provided for DNS and DHCP are impossible to combine into one LDAP
13718 object. In addition, it is impossible to implement quick queries for
13719 netgroup membership, because of the way NIS triples are implemented.
13720 It just do not scale. I believe it is time for a few RFC
13721 specifications to cleam up this mess.
</p>
13723 <p>I would like to have one LDAP object representing each computer in
13724 the network, and this object can then keep the SMB (ie host key), DHCP
13725 (mac address/name) and DNS (name/IP address) settings in one place.
13726 It need to be efficently stored to make sure it scale well.
</p>
13728 <p>I would also like to have a quick way to map from a user or
13729 computer and to the net group this user or computer is a member.
</p>
13731 <p>Active Directory have done a better job than unix heads like myself
13732 in this regard, and the unix side need to catch up. Time to start a
13733 new IETF work group?
</p>
13739 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug
</a>.
13744 <div class=
"padding"></div>
13746 <div class=
"entry">
13747 <div class=
"title">
13748 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Endelig_er_Debian_Lenny_gitt_ut.html">Endelig er Debian Lenny gitt ut
</a>
13754 <p>Endelig er
<a href=
"http://www.debian.org/">Debian
</a>
13755 <a href=
"http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214">Lenny
</a> gitt ut.
13756 Et langt steg videre for Debian-prosjektet, og en rekke nye
13757 programpakker blir nå tilgjengelig for de av oss som bruker den
13758 stabile utgaven av Debian. Neste steg er nå å få
13759 <a href=
"http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux
</a> /
13760 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/">Debian Edu
</a> ferdig
13761 oppdatert for den nye utgaven, slik at en oppdatert versjon kan
13762 slippes løs på skolene. Takk til alle debian-utviklerne som har
13763 gjort dette mulig. Endelig er f.eks. fungerende avhengighetsstyrt
13764 bootsekvens tilgjengelig i stabil utgave, vha pakken
13765 <tt>insserv
</tt>.
</p>
13771 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>.
13776 <div class=
"padding"></div>
13778 <div class=
"entry">
13779 <div class=
"title">
13780 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Endelig_norsk_stavekontroll_med_st_tte_for_ord_med_bindestrek.html">Endelig norsk stavekontroll med støtte for ord med bindestrek
</a>
13786 <p>Etter flere års mislykkede forsøk på å skrive om byggesystemet for
13787 <a href=
"http://no.speling.org/">den norske stavekontrollen for bokmål
13788 og nynorsk
</a> til å ikke bruke bindestrek som ordskillemarkør, lyktes jeg
13789 endelig første juledag. Bruken av bindestrek som ordskillemarkør har
13790 gjort det umulig å få med ord med bindestrek i
13791 stavekontrolldatagrunnlaget, slik at ord som e-post og CD-spiller ikke
13792 kunne godtas av stavekontrollen. Hadde litt tid til overs å bruke på
13793 stavekontrollen, og satte meg ned med to kopier av byggsystemet og en
13794 liten testdatafil, og byttet ut - med = på utvalgte steder i
13795 byggsystemet og datafilen helt til jeg fikk samme resultat med det
13796 gamle og det nye byggsystemet. Dette tror jeg var forsøk
4, der de
13797 foregående har feilet uten at jeg klarte å forstå hvorfor. Det sier
13798 kanskje litt om kompleksiteten i det originale byggsystemet som Rune
13799 Kleveland laget i sin tid.
</p>
13801 <p>Etter å ha endret byggsystemet, var neste steg å importere ordene
13802 med bindestrek. Vi har en rekke slike i databasene for
13803 <a href=
"http://tyge.sslug.dk/~korsvoll/nb.speling.org/htdocs/">bokmål
</a>
13805 <a href=
"http://tyge.sslug.dk/~korsvoll/nn.speling.org/htdocs/">nynorsk
</a>
13806 for korrektur av datagrunnlaget for stavekontrollen, og etter importen
13807 skulle nå
10350 nye ord bli godkjent som korrekt stavede ord av
13808 stavekontrollen.
</p>
13814 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/stavekontroll">stavekontroll
</a>.
13819 <div class=
"padding"></div>
13821 <div class=
"entry">
13822 <div class=
"title">
13823 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Devcamp_brought_us_closer_to_the_Lenny_based_Debian_Edu_release.html">Devcamp brought us closer to the Lenny based Debian Edu release
</a>
13829 <p>This weekend we had a small developer gathering for Debian Edu in
13830 Oslo. Most of Saturday was used for the general assemly for the
13831 member organization, but the rest of the weekend I used to tune the
13832 LTSP installation. LTSP now work out of the box on the
10-network.
13833 Acer Aspire One proved to be a very nice thin client, with both
13834 screen, mouse and keybard in a small box. Was working on getting the
13835 diskless workstation setup configured out of the box, but did not
13836 finish it before the weekend was up.
</p>
13838 <p>Did not find time to look at the
4 VGA cards in one box we got from
13839 the Brazilian group, so that will have to wait for the next
13840 development gathering. Would love to have the Debian Edu installer
13841 automatically detect and configure a multiseat setup when it find one
13842 of these cards.
</p>
13848 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ltsp">ltsp
</a>.
13853 <div class=
"padding"></div>
13855 <div class=
"entry">
13856 <div class=
"title">
13857 <a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/The_sorry_state_of_multimedia_browser_plugins_in_Debian.html">The sorry state of multimedia browser plugins in Debian
</a>
13863 <p>Recently I have spent some time evaluating the multimedia browser
13864 plugins available in Debian Lenny, to see which one we should use by
13865 default in Debian Edu. We need an embedded video playing plugin with
13866 control buttons to pause or stop the video, and capable of streaming
13867 all the multimedia content available on the web. The test results and
13868 notes are available on
13869 <a href=
"http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/BrowserMultimedia">the
13870 Debian wiki
</a>. I was surprised how few of the plugins are able to
13871 fill this need. My personal video player favorite, VLC, has a really
13872 bad plugin which fail on a lot of the test pages. A lot of the MIME
13873 types I would expect to work with any free software player (like
13874 video/ogg), just do not work. And simple formats like the
13875 audio/x-mplegurl format (m3u playlists), just isn't supported by the
13876 totem and vlc plugins. I hope the situation will improve soon. No
13877 wonder sites use the proprietary Adobe flash to play video.
</p>
13879 <p>For Lenny, we seem to end up with the mplayer plugin. It seem to
13880 be the only one fitting our needs. :/
</p>
13886 Tags:
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia
</a>,
<a href=
"http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web
</a>.
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"padding"></div>
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