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  20  <p>Entries from November 2010.</p>
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  24  <div class="title">
  25  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Norgeskartet_p___mange_vis___via_OpenStreetmap_org.html">Norgeskartet på mange vis - via OpenStreetmap.org</a>
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  28   2010-11-01 11:15
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  32
  33 <p>Har oppdaget at mange ikke er klar over at OpenStreetmap.org er
  34 tilgjengelig i en rekke forskjellige formater.  Her er en liste med
  35 eksporter jeg kjenner til for Norge, for de som trenger et
  36 fribrukskart til sine tjenester:</p>
  37
  38 <p><ul>
  39
  40 <li>Cloudmade tilbyr OSM XML, Garmin Map Files, Osmosis country
  41 bounding polygon, Shapefile, Navit maps, GPX POI, TomTom POI og OSM
  42 XML feature extracts via
  43 <a href="http://downloads.cloudmade.com/europe/norway">sine
  44 nedlastingssider</a>.</li>
  45
  46 <li>Geofabric tilbyr
  47 <a href="http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/norway.osm.bz2">OSM
  48 XML</a>,
  49 <a href="http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/norway.osm.pbf">OSM
  50 protobuf binærformat</a> og
  51 <a href="http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/norway.shp.zip">ESRI
  52 Shapefile (EPSG:4326)</a> fra sine nedlastingssider.</li>
  53
  54 <li>Frikart.no tilbyr
  55 <a href="http://www.frikart.no/garmin/">Garmin-kart</a> i uike
  56 varianter for veibruk og turbruk sommer og vinter.</li>
  57
  58 </ul></p>
  59
  60 <p>Kartene oppdateres regelmessig, som oftest hver uke.  Det skulle
  61 dermed være noe for enhver smak.</p>
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  68   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web</a>.
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  74 <div class="entry">
  75  <div class="title">
  76  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Making_room_on_the_Debian_Edu_Sqeeze_DVD.html">Making room on the Debian Edu/Sqeeze DVD</a>
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  78  <div class="date">
  79   2010-11-07 11:45
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  83
  84 <p>Prioritising packages for the Debian Edu /
  85 <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Skolelinux</a> DVD, which is
  86 supposed provide a school with all the services and user applications
  87 needed on the pupils computer network has always been hard.  Even
  88 schools without Internet connections should be able to get Debian Edu
  89 working using this DVD.</p>
  90
  91 <p>The job became a lot harder when apt and aptitude started
  92 installing recommended packages by default.  We want the same set of
  93 packages to be installed when using the DVD and the netinst CD, and
  94 that means all recommended packages need to be on the DVD.  I created
  95 a patch for debian-cd in <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/601203">BTS
  96 report #601203</a> to do this, and since this change was applied to
  97 the Debian Edu DVD build, we have been seriously short on space.</p>
  98
  99 <p>A few days ago we decided to drop blender, wxmaxima and kicad from
 100 the default installation to save space on the DVD, believing that
 101 those needing these applications are few and can get them from the
 102 Debian archive.</p>
 103
 104 <p>Yesterday, I had a look what source packages to see which packages
 105 were using most space.  A few large packages are well know;
 106 openoffice.org, openclipart and fluid-soundfont.  But I also
 107 discovered that lilypond used 106 MiB and fglrx-driver used 53 MiB.
 108 The lilypond package is pulled in as a dependency for rosegarden, and
 109 when looking a bit closer I discovered that 99 MiB of the 106 MiB were
 110 the documentation package, which is recommended by the binary package.
 111 I decided to drop this documentation package from our DVD, as most of
 112 our users will use the GUI front-ends and do not need the lilypond
 113 documentation.  Similarly, I dropped the non-free fglrx-driver package
 114 which might be installed by d-i when its hardware is detected, as the
 115 free X driver should work.</p>
 116
 117 <p>With this change, we finally got space for the LXDE and Gnome
 118 desktop packages as well as the language specific packages making the
 119 DVD more useful again.</p>
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 125
 126   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
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 129 </div>
 130  <div class="padding"></div>
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 132 <div class="entry">
 133  <div class="title">
 134  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Datatilsynet_mangler_verkt__yet_som_trengs_for____kontrollere_kameraoverv__kning.html">Datatilsynet mangler verktøyet som trengs for å kontrollere kameraovervåkning</a>
 135  </div>
 136  <div class="date">
 137   2010-11-09 14:35
 138  </div>
 139
 140  <div class="body">
 141
 142 <p>En stund tilbake ble jeg oppmerksom på at Datatilsynets verktøy for
 143 å holde rede på overvåkningskamera i Norge ikke var egnet til annet
 144 enn å lage statistikk, og ikke kunne brukes for å kontrollere om et
 145 overvåkningskamera i det offentlige rom er lovlig satt opp og
 146 registrert.  For å teste hypotesen sendte jeg for noen dager siden
 147 følgende spørsmål til datatilsynet.  Det omtalte kameraet står litt
 148 merkelig plassert i veigrøften ved gangstien langs Sandakerveien, og
 149 jeg lurer oppriktig på om det er lovlig plassert og registrert.</p>
 150
 151 <p><blockquote>
 152 <p>Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:08:20 +0100
 153 <br>From: Petter Reinholdtsen &lt;pere (at) hungry.com&gt;
 154 <br>To: postkasse (at) datatilsynet.no
 155 <br>Subject: Er overvåkningskameraet korrekt registrert?</p>
 156
 157 <p>Hei.</p>
 158
 159 <p>I Nydalen i Oslo er det mange overvåkningskamera, og et av dem er
 160 spesielt merkelig plassert like over et kumlokk.  Jeg lurer på om
 161 dette kameraet er korrekt registrert og i henhold til lovverket.</p>
 162
 163 <p>Finner ingen eierinformasjon på kameraet, og dermed heller ingenting å
 164 søke på i &lt;URL:
 165 <a href="http://hetti.datatilsynet.no/melding/report_search.pl">http://hetti.datatilsynet.no/melding/report_search.pl</a> &gt;.
 166 Kartreferanse for kameraet er tilgjengelig fra
 167 &lt;URL:
 168 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.no/pere/surveillance-norway/?zoom=17&lat=59.94918&lon=10.76962&layers=B0T">http://people.skolelinux.no/pere/surveillance-norway/?zoom=17&lat=59.94918&lon=10.76962&layers=B0T</a> &gt;.
 169
 170 <p>Kan dere fortelle meg om dette kameraet er registrert hos
 171 Datatilsynet som det skal være i henhold til lovverket?</p>
 172
 173 <p>Det hadde forresten vært fint om rådata fra kameraregisteret var
 174 tilgjengelig på web og regelmessig oppdatert, for å kunne søke på
 175 andre ting enn organisasjonsnavn og -nummer ved å laste det ned og
 176 gjøre egne søk.</p>
 177
 178 <p>Vennlig hilsen,
 179 <br>--
 180 <br>Petter Reinholdtsen
 181 </blockquote></p>
 182
 183 <p>Her er svaret som kom dagen etter:</p>
 184
 185 <p><blockquote>
 186 <p>Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:44:09 +0100
 187 <br>From: "juridisk" &lt;juridisk (at) Datatilsynet.no&gt;
 188 <br>To: Petter Reinholdtsen
 189 <br>Subject: VS: Er overvåkningskameraet korrekt registrert?
 190
 191 <p>Viser til e-post av 2. november.
 192
 193 <p>Datatilsynet er det forvaltningsorganet som skal kontrollere at
 194 personopplysningsloven blir fulgt. Formålet med loven er å verne
 195 enkeltpersoner mot krenking av personvernet gjennom behandling av
 196 personopplysninger.</p>
 197
 198 <p>Juridisk veiledningstjeneste hos Datatilsynet gir råd og veiledning
 199 omkring personopplysningslovens regler på generelt grunnlag.</p>
 200
 201 <p>Datatilsynet har dessverre ikke en fullstendig oversikt over alle
 202 kameraer, den oversikten som finner er i vår meldingsdatabase som du
 203 finner her:
 204 <a href="http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____211.aspx">http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____211.aspx</a></p>
 205
 206 <p>Denne databasen gir en oversikt over virksomheter som har meldt inn
 207 kameraovervåkning. Dersom man ikek vet hvilken virksomhet som er
 208 ansvarlig, er det heller ikke mulig for Datatilsynet å søke dette
 209 opp.</p>
 210
 211 <p>Webkameraer som har så dårlig oppløsning at man ikke kan gjenkjenne
 212 enkeltpersoner er ikke meldepliktige, da dette ikke anses som
 213 kameraovervåkning i personopplysningslovens forstand. Dersom kameraet
 214 du sikter til er et slikt webkamera, vil det kanskje ikke finnes i
 215 meldingsdatabasen på grunn av dette.  Også dersom et kamera med god
 216 oppløsning ikke filmer mennesker, faller det utenfor loven.</p>
 217
 218 <p>Datatilsynet har laget en veileder som gjennomgår når det er lov å
 219 overvåke med kamera, se lenke:
 220 <a href="http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____401.aspx">http://www.datatilsynet.no/templates/article____401.aspx</a></p>
 221
 222 <p>Dersom det ikke er klart hvem som er ansvarlig for kameraet, er det
 223 vanskelig for Datatilsynet å ta kontakt med den ansvarlige for å få
 224 avklart om kameraet er satt opp i tråd med tilsynets regelverk. Dersom
 225 du mener at kameraet ikke er lovlig ut fra informasjonen ovenfor, kan
 226 kameraet anmeldes til politiet.</p>
 227
 228 <p>Med vennlig hilsen</p>
 229
 230 <p>Maria Bakke
 231 <br>Juridisk veiledningstjeneste
 232 <br>Datatilsynet</p>
 233 </blockquote></p>
 234
 235 <p>Personlig synes jeg det bør være krav om å registrere hvert eneste
 236 overvåkningskamera i det offentlige rom hos Datatilsynet, med
 237 kartreferanse og begrunnelse om hvorfor det er satt opp, slik at
 238 enhver borger enkelt kan hente ut kart over områder vi er interessert
 239 i og sjekke om det er overvåkningskamera der som er satt opp uten å
 240 være registert.  Slike registreringer skal jo i dag fornyes
 241 regelmessing, noe jeg mistenker ikke blir gjort.  Dermed kan kamera
 242 som en gang var korrekt registrert nå være ulovlig satt opp.  Det
 243 burde også være bøter for å ha kamera som ikke er korrekt registrert,
 244 slik at en ikke kan ignorere registrering uten at det får
 245 konsekvenser.</p>
 246
 247 <p>En ide fra England som jeg har sans (lite annet jeg har sans for
 248 når det gjelder overvåkningskamera i England) for er at enhver borger
 249 kan be om å få kopi av det som er tatt opp med et overvåkningskamera i
 250 det offentlige rom, noe som gjør at det kan komme løpende utgifter ved
 251 å sette overvåkningskamera.  Jeg tror alt som gjør det mindre
 252 attraktivt å ha overvåkningskamera i det offentlige rom er en god
 253 ting, så et slikt lovverk i Norge tror jeg hadde vært nyttig.</p>
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 257
 258
 259
 260   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet</a>.
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 263 </div>
 264  <div class="padding"></div>
 265
 266 <div class="entry">
 267  <div class="title">
 268  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_in_3D.html">Debian in 3D</a>
 269  </div>
 270  <div class="date">
 271   2010-11-09 16:10
 272  </div>
 273
 274  <div class="body">
 275
 276 <p><img src="http://thingiverse-production.s3.amazonaws.com/renders/23/e0/c4/f9/2b/debswagtdose_preview_medium.jpg"></p>
 277
 278 <p>3D printing is just great.  I just came across this Debian logo in
 279 3D linked in from
 280 <a href="http://blog.thingiverse.com/2010/11/09/participatory-branding/">the
 281 thingiverse blog</a>.</p>
 282
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 284  <div class="tags">
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 286
 287
 288   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/3d-printer">3d-printer</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
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 291 </div>
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 294 <div class="entry">
 295  <div class="title">
 296  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gjendikte_sangen__Copying_Is_Not_Theft__p___Norsk_.html">Gjendikte sangen "Copying Is Not Theft" på Norsk?</a>
 297  </div>
 298  <div class="date">
 299   2010-11-10 14:40
 300  </div>
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 302  <div class="body">
 303
 304 <p>En genial liten sang om kopiering og tyveri er
 305 <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/CopyingIsNotTheft">Copying Is
 306 Not Theft</a> av Nina Paley.  Den vil jeg at
 307 <a href="http://www.nuug.no/">NUUG</a> skal sende på
 308 <a href="http://www.frikanalen.no/">Frikanalen</a>, men først må vi
 309 fikse norske undertekster eller dubbing.  Og i og med at det er en
 310 sang, tror jeg den kanskje bør gjendiktes.
 311
 312 Selve teksten finner en på bloggen til
 313 <a href="http://blog.ninapaley.com/2009/12/15/minute-meme-1-copying-is-not-theft/">tekstforfatteren</a> og den ser slik ut:
 314
 315 <p><blockquote>
 316 <p>Copying is not theft.
 317 <br>Stealing a thing leaves one less left
 318 <br>Copying it makes one thing more;
 319 <br>that's what copying's for.</p>
 320
 321 <p>Copying is not theft.
 322 <br>If I copy yours you have it too
 323 <br>One for me and one for you
 324 <br>That's what copies can do</p>
 325
 326 <p>If I steal your bicycle
 327 <br>you have to take the bus,
 328 <br>but if I just copy it
 329 <br>there's one for each of us!</p>
 330
 331 <p>Making more of a thing,
 332 <br>that is what we call "copying"
 333 <br>Sharing ideas with everyone
 334 <br>That's why copying
 335 <br>is
 336 <br>FUN!</p>
 337 </blockquote></p>
 338
 339 <p>Her er et naivt forsøk på oversettelse, uten noe forsøk på
 340 gjendiktning eller få det til å flyte sammen med melodien.</p>
 341
 342 <p><blockquote>
 343 <p>Kopiering er ikke tyveri.
 344 <br>Stjeler du en ting er det en mindre igjen
 345 <br>Kopier den og det er ting til.
 346 <br>det er derfor vi har kopiering.</p>
 347
 348 <p>Kopiering er ikke tyveri.
 349 <br>Hvis jeg kopierer din så har du den fortsatt
 350 <br>En for meg og en for deg.
 351 <br>Det er det kopier gir oss</p>
 352
 353 <p>Hvis jeg stjeler sykkelen din
 354 <br>så må du ta bussen,
 355 <br>men hvis jeg bare kopierer den,
 356 <br>så får vi hver vår!</p>
 357
 358 <p>Lage mer av en ting,
 359 <br>det er det vi kaller "kopiering".
 360 <br>Deler ideer med enhver
 361 <br>Det er derfor kopiering
 362 <br>er
 363 <br>MORSOMT!</p>
 364 </blockquote></p>
 365
 366 <p>Hvis du har forslag til bedre oversettelse eller lyst til å bidra
 367 til å få denne sangen over i norsk språkdrakt, ta kontakt med video
 368 (at) nuug.no.</p>
 369
 370  </div>
 371  <div class="tags">
 372
 373
 374
 375   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fildeling">fildeling</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern</a>.
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 377  </div>
 378 </div>
 379  <div class="padding"></div>
 380
 381 <div class="entry">
 382  <div class="title">
 383  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/N___er_74_norske_overv__kningskamera_registert_i_OpenStreetmap_org.html">Nå er 74 norske overvåkningskamera registert i OpenStreetmap.org</a>
 384  </div>
 385  <div class="date">
 386   2010-11-18 11:25
 387  </div>
 388
 389  <div class="body">
 390
 391 <p>Jeg oppdaterte nettopp kartet med overvåkningskamera som
 392 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Kart_over_overv__kningskamera_i_Norge.html">jeg
 393 startet</a> for ca. et og et halvt år siden, og nå er det 74 kamera på
 394 plass.  I prosessen med å oppdatere kartet oppdaget jeg ved en
 395 tilfeldighet at webreferansen til registermeldingen hos Datatilsynet
 396 nå ikke lenger er gyldig (se
 397 <a href="http://hetti.datatilsynet.no/melding/report_view.pl?id=31062">tidligere
 398 melding</a>).  Antar Datatilsynet fjerner utdaterte meldinger fra
 399 databasen.  Konsekvensen blir at kameraoversikten i OSM må ha med
 400 søkekriteriene som ble brukt for å finne registermeldingen
 401 (dvs. virksomhetsnavn og organisasjonsnummer), slik at eventuelt nye
 402 meldinger for samme kamera kan finnes igjen.</p>
 403
 404 <p>Det er dukket opp kamera på
 405 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.no/pere/surveillance-norway/">kartet</a>
 406 i Bergensområdet, Stavangerområdet, Osloområdet, Gjøvikområdet og i
 407 Troms.  Mange områder og kamera mangler, og jeg er overbevist om at
 408 bare en brøkdel av den enorme mengden kamera som nå finnes i det
 409 offentlige rom er registrert så langt.  Instrukser for å legge inn
 410 kamera finnes på websiden for kartet hos
 411 <a href="http://personvern.no/wiki/index.php/Kameraovervåkning">personvernforeningen</a>.</p>
 412
 413  </div>
 414  <div class="tags">
 415
 416
 417
 418   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern</a>.
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 420  </div>
 421 </div>
 422  <div class="padding"></div>
 423
 424 <div class="entry">
 425  <div class="title">
 426  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Gnash_buildbot_slave_and_Debian_kfreebsd.html">Gnash buildbot slave and Debian kfreebsd</a>
 427  </div>
 428  <div class="date">
 429   2010-11-20 07:20
 430  </div>
 431
 432  <div class="body">
 433
 434 <p>Answering
 435 <a href="http://www.listware.net/201011/gnash-dev/67431-gnash-dev-buildbot-looking-for-slaves.html">the
 436 call from the Gnash project</a> for
 437 <a href="http://www.gnashdev.org:8010">buildbot</a> slaves to test the
 438 current source, I have set up a virtual KVM machine on the Debian
 439 Edu/Skolelinux virtualization host to test the git source on
 440 Debian/Squeeze.  I hope this can help the developers in getting new
 441 releases out more often.</p>
 442
 443 <p>As the developers want less main-stream build platforms tested to,
 444 I have considered setting up a <a
 445 href="http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/">Debian/kfreebsd</a>
 446 machine as well.  I have also considered using the kfreebsd
 447 architecture in Debian as a file server in NUUG to get access to the 5
 448 TB zfs volume we currently use to store DV video.  Because of this, I
 449 finally got around to do a test installation of Debian/Squeeze with
 450 kfreebsd.  Installation went fairly smooth, thought I noticed some
 451 visual glitches in the cdebconf dialogs (black cursor left on the
 452 screen at random locations).  Have not gotten very far with the
 453 testing.  Noticed cfdisk did not work, but fdisk did so it was not a
 454 fatal problem.  Have to spend some more time on it to see if it is
 455 useful as a file server for NUUG.  Will try to find time to set up a
 456 gnash buildbot slave on the Debian Edu/Skolelinux this weekend.</p>
 457
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 459  <div class="tags">
 460
 461
 462
 463   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
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 465  </div>
 466 </div>
 467  <div class="padding"></div>
 468
 469 <div class="entry">
 470  <div class="title">
 471  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades__apt_vs_aptitude_with_the_Gnome_and_KDE_desktop.html">Lenny->Squeeze upgrades, apt vs aptitude with the Gnome and KDE desktop</a>
 472  </div>
 473  <div class="date">
 474   2010-11-20 22:50
 475  </div>
 476
 477  <div class="body">
 478
 479 <p>I'm still running upgrade testing of the
 480 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/~pere/debian-upgrade-testing/">Lenny
 481 Gnome and KDE Desktop</a>, but have not had time to spend on reporting the
 482 status.  Here is a short update based on a test I ran 20101118.</p>
 483
 484 <p>I still do not know what a correct migration should look like, so I
 485 report any differences between apt and aptitude and hope someone else
 486 can see if anything should be changed.</p>
 487
 488 <p>This is for Gnome:</p>
 489
 490 <p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude</p>
 491
 492 <blockquote><p>
 493   apache2.2-bin aptdaemon at-spi baobab binfmt-support
 494   browser-plugin-gnash cheese-common cli-common cpp-4.3 cups-pk-helper
 495   dmz-cursor-theme empathy empathy-common finger
 496   freedesktop-sound-theme freeglut3 gconf-defaults-service gdm-themes
 497   gedit-plugins geoclue geoclue-hostip geoclue-localnet geoclue-manual
 498   geoclue-yahoo gnash gnash-common gnome gnome-backgrounds
 499   gnome-cards-data gnome-codec-install gnome-core
 500   gnome-desktop-environment gnome-disk-utility gnome-screenshot
 501   gnome-search-tool gnome-session-canberra gnome-spell
 502   gnome-system-log gnome-themes-extras gnome-themes-more
 503   gnome-user-share gs-common gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
 504   gstreamer0.10-tools gtk2-engines gtk2-engines-pixbuf
 505   gtk2-engines-smooth hal-info hamster-applet libapache2-mod-dnssd
 506   libapr1 libaprutil1 libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap
 507   libart2.0-cil libatspi1.0-0 libboost-date-time1.42.0
 508   libboost-python1.42.0 libboost-thread1.42.0 libchamplain-0.4-0
 509   libchamplain-gtk-0.4-0 libcheese-gtk18 libclutter-gtk-0.10-0
 510   libcryptui0 libcupsys2 libdiscid0 libeel2-data libelf1 libepc-1.0-2
 511   libepc-common libepc-ui-1.0-2 libfreerdp-plugins-standard
 512   libfreerdp0 libgail-common libgconf2.0-cil libgdata-common libgdata7
 513   libgdl-1-common libgdu-gtk0 libgee2 libgeoclue0 libgexiv2-0 libgif4
 514   libglade2.0-cil libglib2.0-cil libgmime2.4-cil libgnome-vfs2.0-cil
 515   libgnome2.24-cil libgnomepanel2.24-cil libgnomeprint2.2-data
 516   libgnomeprintui2.2-common libgnomevfs2-bin libgpod-common libgpod4
 517   libgtk2.0-cil libgtkglext1 libgtksourceview-common
 518   libgtksourceview2.0-common libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil
 519   libmono-addins0.2-cil libmono-cairo2.0-cil libmono-corlib2.0-cil
 520   libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil libmono-posix2.0-cil
 521   libmono-security2.0-cil libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil
 522   libmono-system2.0-cil libmtp8 libmusicbrainz3-6
 523   libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil libndesk-dbus1.0-cil libopal3.6.8
 524   libpolkit-gtk-1-0 libpt-1.10.10-plugins-alsa
 525   libpt-1.10.10-plugins-v4l libpt2.6.7 libpython2.6 librpm1 librpmio1
 526   libsdl1.2debian libservlet2.4-java libsrtp0 libssh-4
 527   libtelepathy-farsight0 libtelepathy-glib0 libtidy-0.99-0
 528   libxalan2-java libxerces2-java media-player-info mesa-utils
 529   mono-2.0-gac mono-gac mono-runtime nautilus-sendto
 530   nautilus-sendto-empathy openoffice.org-writer2latex
 531   openssl-blacklist p7zip p7zip-full pkg-config python-4suite-xml
 532   python-aptdaemon python-aptdaemon-gtk python-axiom
 533   python-beautifulsoup python-bugbuddy python-clientform
 534   python-coherence python-configobj python-crypto python-cupshelpers
 535   python-cupsutils python-eggtrayicon python-elementtree
 536   python-epsilon python-evolution python-feedparser python-gdata
 537   python-gdbm python-gst0.10 python-gtkglext1 python-gtkmozembed
 538   python-gtksourceview2 python-httplib2 python-louie python-mako
 539   python-markupsafe python-mechanize python-nevow python-notify
 540   python-opengl python-openssl python-pam python-pkg-resources
 541   python-pyasn1 python-pysqlite2 python-rdflib python-serial
 542   python-tagpy python-twisted-bin python-twisted-conch
 543   python-twisted-core python-twisted-web python-utidylib python-webkit
 544   python-xdg python-zope.interface remmina remmina-plugin-data
 545   remmina-plugin-rdp remmina-plugin-vnc rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder
 546   rhythmbox-plugins rpm-common rpm2cpio seahorse-plugins shotwell
 547   software-center svgalibg1 system-config-printer-udev
 548   telepathy-gabble telepathy-mission-control-5 telepathy-salut tomboy
 549   totem totem-coherence totem-mozilla totem-plugins
 550   transmission-common xdg-user-dirs xdg-user-dirs-gtk xserver-xephyr
 551   zip
 552 </p></blockquote>
 553
 554 Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude
 555
 556 <blockquote><p>
 557   arj bluez-utils cheese dhcdbd djvulibre-desktop ekiga eog
 558   epiphany-extensions epiphany-gecko evolution-exchange
 559   fast-user-switch-applet file-roller gcalctool gconf-editor gdm gedit
 560   gedit-common gnome-app-install gnome-games gnome-games-data
 561   gnome-nettool gnome-system-tools gnome-themes gnome-utils
 562   gnome-vfs-obexftp gnome-volume-manager gnuchess gucharmap
 563   guile-1.8-libs hal libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-core5
 564   libavahi-ui0 libbind9-50 libbluetooth2 libcamel1.2-11 libcdio7
 565   libcucul0 libcurl3 libdirectfb-1.0-0 libdmx1 libdvdread3
 566   libedata-cal1.2-6 libedataserver1.2-9 libeel2-2.20 libepc-1.0-1
 567   libepc-ui-1.0-1 libexchange-storage1.2-3 libfaad0 libgadu3
 568   libgalago3 libgd2-noxpm libgda3-3 libgda3-common libggz2 libggzcore9
 569   libggzmod4 libgksu1.2-0 libgksuui1.0-1 libgmyth0 libgnome-desktop-2
 570   libgnome-pilot2 libgnomecups1.0-1 libgnomeprint2.2-0
 571   libgnomeprintui2.2-0 libgpod3 libgraphviz4 libgtk-vnc-1.0-0
 572   libgtkhtml2-0 libgtksourceview1.0-0 libgtksourceview2.0-0
 573   libgucharmap6 libhesiod0 libicu38 libisccc50 libisccfg50 libiw29
 574   libjaxp1.3-java-gcj libkpathsea4 liblircclient0 libltdl3 liblwres50
 575   libmagick++10 libmagick10 libmalaga7 libmozjs1d libmpfr1ldbl libmtp7
 576   libmysqlclient15off libnautilus-burn4 libneon27 libnm-glib0
 577   libnm-util0 libopal-2.2 libosp5 libparted1.8-10 libpisock9
 578   libpisync1 libpoppler-glib3 libpoppler3 libpt-1.10.10 libraw1394-8
 579   libsdl1.2debian-alsa libsensors3 libsexy2 libsmbios2 libsoup2.2-8
 580   libspeexdsp1 libssh2-1 libsuitesparse-3.1.0 libsvga1
 581   libswfdec-0.6-90 libtalloc1 libtotem-plparser10 libtrackerclient0
 582   libvoikko1 libxalan2-java-gcj libxerces2-java-gcj libxklavier12
 583   libxtrap6 libxxf86misc1 libzephyr3 mysql-common rhythmbox seahorse
 584   sound-juicer swfdec-gnome system-config-printer totem-common
 585   totem-gstreamer transmission-gtk vinagre vino w3c-dtd-xhtml wodim
 586 </p></blockquote>
 587
 588 <p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get</p>
 589
 590 <blockquote><p>
 591   gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
 592 </p></blockquote>
 593
 594 <p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get</p>
 595
 596 <blockquote><p>
 597 [nothing]
 598 </p></blockquote>
 599
 600 <p>This is for KDE:</p>
 601
 602 <p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude</p>
 603
 604 <blockquote><p>
 605   autopoint bomber bovo cantor cantor-backend-kalgebra cpp-4.3 dcoprss
 606   edict espeak espeak-data eyesapplet fifteenapplet finger gettext
 607   ghostscript-x git gnome-audio gnugo granatier gs-common
 608   gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio indi kaddressbook-plugins kalgebra
 609   kalzium-data kanjidic kapman kate-plugins kblocks kbreakout kbstate
 610   kde-icons-mono kdeaccessibility kdeaddons-kfile-plugins
 611   kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-theme-window
 612   kdeedu kdeedu-data kdeedu-kvtml-data kdegames kdegames-card-data
 613   kdegames-mahjongg-data kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelirc
 614   kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdenetwork-kfile-plugins
 615   kdepim-kfile-plugins kdepim-kio-plugins kdessh kdetoys kdewebdev
 616   kdiamond kdnssd kfilereplace kfourinline kgeography-data kigo
 617   killbots kiriki klettres-data kmoon kmrml knewsticker-scripts
 618   kollision kpf krosspython ksirk ksmserver ksquares kstars-data
 619   ksudoku kubrick kweather libasound2-plugins libboost-python1.42.0
 620   libcfitsio3 libconvert-binhex-perl libcrypt-ssleay-perl libdb4.6++
 621   libdjvulibre-text libdotconf1.0 liberror-perl libespeak1
 622   libfinance-quote-perl libgail-common libgsl0ldbl libhtml-parser-perl
 623   libhtml-tableextract-perl libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl
 624   libio-stringy-perl libkdeedu4 libkdegames5 libkiten4 libkpathsea5
 625   libkrossui4 libmailtools-perl libmime-tools-perl
 626   libnews-nntpclient-perl libopenbabel3 libportaudio2 libpulse-browse0
 627   libservlet2.4-java libspeechd2 libtiff-tools libtimedate-perl
 628   libunistring0 liburi-perl libwww-perl libxalan2-java libxerces2-java
 629   lirc luatex marble networkstatus noatun-plugins
 630   openoffice.org-writer2latex palapeli palapeli-data parley
 631   parley-data poster psutils pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat
 632   pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-utils quanta-data rocs rsync
 633   speech-dispatcher step svgalibg1 texlive-binaries texlive-luatex
 634   ttf-sazanami-gothic
 635 </p></blockquote>
 636
 637 <p>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude</p>
 638
 639 <blockquote><p>
 640   amor artsbuilder atlantik atlantikdesigner blinken bluez-utils cvs
 641   dhcdbd djvulibre-desktop imlib-base imlib11 kalzium kanagram kandy
 642   kasteroids katomic kbackgammon kbattleship kblackbox kbounce kbruch
 643   kcron kdat kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data kdeprint kdict kdvi kedit
 644   keduca kenolaba kfax kfaxview kfouleggs kgeography kghostview
 645   kgoldrunner khangman khexedit kiconedit kig kimagemapeditor
 646   kitchensync kiten kjumpingcube klatin klettres klickety klines
 647   klinkstatus kmag kmahjongg kmailcvt kmenuedit kmid kmilo kmines
 648   kmousetool kmouth kmplot knetwalk kodo kolf kommander konquest kooka
 649   kpager kpat kpdf kpercentage kpilot kpoker kpovmodeler krec
 650   kregexpeditor kreversi ksame ksayit kshisen ksig ksim ksirc ksirtet
 651   ksmiletris ksnake ksokoban kspaceduel kstars ksvg ksysv kteatime
 652   ktip ktnef ktouch ktron kttsd ktuberling kturtle ktux kuickshow
 653   kverbos kview kviewshell kvoctrain kwifimanager kwin kwin4 kwordquiz
 654   kworldclock kxsldbg libakode2 libarts1-akode libarts1-audiofile
 655   libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libavahi-compat-libdnssd1
 656   libavahi-core5 libavc1394-0 libbind9-50 libbluetooth2
 657   libboost-python1.34.1 libcucul0 libcurl3 libcvsservice0
 658   libdirectfb-1.0-0 libdjvulibre21 libdvdread3 libfaad0 libfreebob0
 659   libgd2-noxpm libgraphviz4 libgsmme1c2a libgtkhtml2-0 libicu38
 660   libiec61883-0 libindex0 libisccc50 libisccfg50 libiw29
 661   libjaxp1.3-java-gcj libk3b3 libkcal2b libkcddb1 libkdeedu3
 662   libkdegames1 libkdepim1a libkgantt0 libkleopatra1 libkmime2
 663   libkpathsea4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libkscan1
 664   libksieve0 libktnef1 liblockdev1 libltdl3 liblwres50 libmagick10
 665   libmimelib1c2a libmodplug0c2 libmozjs1d libmpcdec3 libmpfr1ldbl
 666   libneon27 libnm-util0 libopensync0 libpisock9 libpoppler-glib3
 667   libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler3 libraw1394-8 librss1 libsensors3
 668   libsmbios2 libssh2-1 libsuitesparse-3.1.0 libswfdec-0.6-90
 669   libtalloc1 libxalan2-java-gcj libxerces2-java-gcj libxtrap6 lskat
 670   mpeglib network-manager-kde noatun pmount tex-common texlive-base
 671   texlive-common texlive-doc-base texlive-fonts-recommended tidy
 672   ttf-dustin ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-sjfonts
 673 </p></blockquote>
 674
 675 <p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get</p>
 676
 677 <blockquote><p>
 678   dolphin kde-core kde-plasma-desktop kde-standard kde-window-manager
 679   kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-apps kdebase-workspace
 680   kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-data kdeutils kscreensaver
 681   kscreensaver-xsavers libgle3 libkonq5 libkonq5-templates libnetpbm10
 682   netpbm plasma-widget-folderview plasma-widget-networkmanagement
 683   xscreensaver-data-extra xscreensaver-gl xscreensaver-gl-extra
 684   xscreensaver-screensaver-bsod
 685 </p></blockquote>
 686
 687 <p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get</p>
 688
 689 <blockquote><p>
 690   kdebase-bin konq-plugins konqueror
 691 </p></blockquote>
 692
 693  </div>
 694  <div class="tags">
 695
 696
 697
 698   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
 699
 700  </div>
 701 </div>
 702  <div class="padding"></div>
 703
 704 <div class="entry">
 705  <div class="title">
 706  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Migrating_Xen_virtual_machines_using_LVM_to_KVM_using_disk_images.html">Migrating Xen virtual machines using LVM to KVM using disk images</a>
 707  </div>
 708  <div class="date">
 709   2010-11-22 11:20
 710  </div>
 711
 712  <div class="body">
 713
 714 <p>Most of the computers in use by the
 715 <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian Edu/Skolelinux project</a>
 716 are virtual machines.  And they have been Xen machines running on a
 717 fairly old IBM eserver xseries 345 machine, and we wanted to migrate
 718 them to KVM on a newer Dell PowerEdge 2950 host machine.  This was a
 719 bit harder that it could have been, because we set up the Xen virtual
 720 machines to get the virtual partitions from LVM, which as far as I
 721 know is not supported by KVM.  So to migrate, we had to convert
 722 several LVM logical volumes to partitions on a virtual disk file.</p>
 723
 724 <p>I found
 725 <a href="http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com.au/articles/35011-Six-steps-for-migrating-Xen-virtual-machines-to-KVM">a
 726 nice recipe</a> to do this, and wrote the following script to do the
 727 migration.  It uses qemu-img from the qemu package to make the disk
 728 image, parted to partition it, losetup and kpartx to present the disk
 729 image partions as devices, and dd to copy the data.  I NFS mounted the
 730 new servers storage area on the old server to do the migration.</p>
 731
 732 <pre>
 733 #!/bin/sh
 734
 735 # Based on
 736 # http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com.au/articles/35011-Six-steps-for-migrating-Xen-virtual-machines-to-KVM
 737
 738 set -e
 739 set -x
 740
 741 if [ -z "$1" ] ; then
 742     echo "Usage: $0 &lt;hostname&gt;"
 743     exit 1
 744 else
 745     host="$1"
 746 fi
 747
 748 if [ ! -e /dev/vg_data/$host-disk ] ; then
 749     echo "error: unable to find LVM volume for $host"
 750     exit 1
 751 fi
 752
 753 # Partitions need to be a bit bigger than the LVM LVs.  not sure why.
 754 disksize=$( lvs --units m | grep $host-disk | awk '{sum = sum + $4} END { print int(sum * 1.05) }')
 755 swapsize=$( lvs --units m | grep $host-swap | awk '{sum = sum + $4} END { print int(sum * 1.05) }')
 756 totalsize=$(( ( $disksize + $swapsize ) ))
 757
 758 img=$host.img
 759 #dd if=/dev/zero of=$img bs=1M count=$(( $disksize + $swapsize ))
 760 qemu-img create $img ${totalsize}MMaking room on the Debian Edu/Sqeeze DVD
 761
 762 parted $img mklabel msdos
 763 parted $img mkpart primary linux-swap 0 $disksize
 764 parted $img mkpart primary ext2 $disksize $totalsize
 765 parted $img set 1 boot on
 766
 767 modprobe dm-mod
 768 losetup /dev/loop0 $img
 769 kpartx -a /dev/loop0
 770
 771 dd if=/dev/vg_data/$host-disk of=/dev/mapper/loop0p1 bs=1M
 772 fsck.ext3 -f /dev/mapper/loop0p1 || true
 773 mkswap /dev/mapper/loop0p2
 774
 775 kpartx -d /dev/loop0
 776 losetup -d /dev/loop0
 777 </pre>
 778
 779 <p>The script is perhaps so simple that it is not copyrightable, but
 780 if it is, it is licenced using GPL v2 or later at your discretion.</p>
 781
 782 <p>After doing this, I booted a Debian CD in rescue mode in KVM with
 783 the new disk image attached, installed grub-pc and linux-image-686 and
 784 set up grub to boot from the disk image.  After this, the KVM machines
 785 seem to work just fine.</p>
 786
 787  </div>
 788  <div class="tags">
 789
 790
 791
 792   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
 793
 794  </div>
 795 </div>
 796  <div class="padding"></div>
 797
 798 <div class="entry">
 799  <div class="title">
 800  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Lenny__Squeeze_upgrades_of_the_Gnome_and_KDE_desktop__now_with_apt_get_autoremove.html">Lenny->Squeeze upgrades of the Gnome and KDE desktop, now with apt-get autoremove</a>
 801  </div>
 802  <div class="date">
 803   2010-11-22 14:15
 804  </div>
 805
 806  <div class="body">
 807
 808 <p>Michael Biebl suggested to me on IRC, that I changed my automated
 809 upgrade testing of the
 810 <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/~pere/debian-upgrade-testing/">Lenny
 811 Gnome and KDE Desktop</a> to do <tt>apt-get autoremove</tt> when using apt-get.
 812 This seem like a very good idea, so I adjusted by test scripts and
 813 can now present the updated result from today:</p>
 814
 815 <p>This is for Gnome:</p>
 816
 817 <p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude</p>
 818
 819 <blockquote><p>
 820   apache2.2-bin
 821   aptdaemon
 822   baobab
 823   binfmt-support
 824   browser-plugin-gnash
 825   cheese-common
 826   cli-common
 827   cups-pk-helper
 828   dmz-cursor-theme
 829   empathy
 830   empathy-common
 831   freedesktop-sound-theme
 832   freeglut3
 833   gconf-defaults-service
 834   gdm-themes
 835   gedit-plugins
 836   geoclue
 837   geoclue-hostip
 838   geoclue-localnet
 839   geoclue-manual
 840   geoclue-yahoo
 841   gnash
 842   gnash-common
 843   gnome
 844   gnome-backgrounds
 845   gnome-cards-data
 846   gnome-codec-install
 847   gnome-core
 848   gnome-desktop-environment
 849   gnome-disk-utility
 850   gnome-screenshot
 851   gnome-search-tool
 852   gnome-session-canberra
 853   gnome-system-log
 854   gnome-themes-extras
 855   gnome-themes-more
 856   gnome-user-share
 857   gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
 858   gstreamer0.10-tools
 859   gtk2-engines
 860   gtk2-engines-pixbuf
 861   gtk2-engines-smooth
 862   hamster-applet
 863   libapache2-mod-dnssd
 864   libapr1
 865   libaprutil1
 866   libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3
 867   libaprutil1-ldap
 868   libart2.0-cil
 869   libboost-date-time1.42.0
 870   libboost-python1.42.0
 871   libboost-thread1.42.0
 872   libchamplain-0.4-0
 873   libchamplain-gtk-0.4-0
 874   libcheese-gtk18
 875   libclutter-gtk-0.10-0
 876   libcryptui0
 877   libdiscid0
 878   libelf1
 879   libepc-1.0-2
 880   libepc-common
 881   libepc-ui-1.0-2
 882   libfreerdp-plugins-standard
 883   libfreerdp0
 884   libgconf2.0-cil
 885   libgdata-common
 886   libgdata7
 887   libgdu-gtk0
 888   libgee2
 889   libgeoclue0
 890   libgexiv2-0
 891   libgif4
 892   libglade2.0-cil
 893   libglib2.0-cil
 894   libgmime2.4-cil
 895   libgnome-vfs2.0-cil
 896   libgnome2.24-cil
 897   libgnomepanel2.24-cil
 898   libgpod-common
 899   libgpod4
 900   libgtk2.0-cil
 901   libgtkglext1
 902   libgtksourceview2.0-common
 903   libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil
 904   libmono-addins0.2-cil
 905   libmono-cairo2.0-cil
 906   libmono-corlib2.0-cil
 907   libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil
 908   libmono-posix2.0-cil
 909   libmono-security2.0-cil
 910   libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil
 911   libmono-system2.0-cil
 912   libmtp8
 913   libmusicbrainz3-6
 914   libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil
 915   libndesk-dbus1.0-cil
 916   libopal3.6.8
 917   libpolkit-gtk-1-0
 918   libpt2.6.7
 919   libpython2.6
 920   librpm1
 921   librpmio1
 922   libsdl1.2debian
 923   libsrtp0
 924   libssh-4
 925   libtelepathy-farsight0
 926   libtelepathy-glib0
 927   libtidy-0.99-0
 928   media-player-info
 929   mesa-utils
 930   mono-2.0-gac
 931   mono-gac
 932   mono-runtime
 933   nautilus-sendto
 934   nautilus-sendto-empathy
 935   p7zip-full
 936   pkg-config
 937   python-aptdaemon
 938   python-aptdaemon-gtk
 939   python-axiom
 940   python-beautifulsoup
 941   python-bugbuddy
 942   python-clientform
 943   python-coherence
 944   python-configobj
 945   python-crypto
 946   python-cupshelpers
 947   python-elementtree
 948   python-epsilon
 949   python-evolution
 950   python-feedparser
 951   python-gdata
 952   python-gdbm
 953   python-gst0.10
 954   python-gtkglext1
 955   python-gtksourceview2
 956   python-httplib2
 957   python-louie
 958   python-mako
 959   python-markupsafe
 960   python-mechanize
 961   python-nevow
 962   python-notify
 963   python-opengl
 964   python-openssl
 965   python-pam
 966   python-pkg-resources
 967   python-pyasn1
 968   python-pysqlite2
 969   python-rdflib
 970   python-serial
 971   python-tagpy
 972   python-twisted-bin
 973   python-twisted-conch
 974   python-twisted-core
 975   python-twisted-web
 976   python-utidylib
 977   python-webkit
 978   python-xdg
 979   python-zope.interface
 980   remmina
 981   remmina-plugin-data
 982   remmina-plugin-rdp
 983   remmina-plugin-vnc
 984   rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder
 985   rhythmbox-plugins
 986   rpm-common
 987   rpm2cpio
 988   seahorse-plugins
 989   shotwell
 990   software-center
 991   system-config-printer-udev
 992   telepathy-gabble
 993   telepathy-mission-control-5
 994   telepathy-salut
 995   tomboy
 996   totem
 997   totem-coherence
 998   totem-mozilla
 999   totem-plugins
1000   transmission-common
1001   xdg-user-dirs
1002   xdg-user-dirs-gtk
1003   xserver-xephyr
1004 </p></blockquote>
1005
1006 <p>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude</p>
1007
1008 <blockquote><p>
1009   cheese
1010   ekiga
1011   eog
1012   epiphany-extensions
1013   evolution-exchange
1014   fast-user-switch-applet
1015   file-roller
1016   gcalctool
1017   gconf-editor
1018   gdm
1019   gedit
1020   gedit-common
1021   gnome-games
1022   gnome-games-data
1023   gnome-nettool
1024   gnome-system-tools
1025   gnome-themes
1026   gnuchess
1027   gucharmap
1028   guile-1.8-libs
1029   libavahi-ui0
1030   libdmx1
1031   libgalago3
1032   libgtk-vnc-1.0-0
1033   libgtksourceview2.0-0
1034   liblircclient0
1035   libsdl1.2debian-alsa
1036   libspeexdsp1
1037   libsvga1
1038   rhythmbox
1039   seahorse
1040   sound-juicer
1041   system-config-printer
1042   totem-common
1043   transmission-gtk
1044   vinagre
1045   vino
1046 </p></blockquote>
1047
1048 <p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get</p>
1049
1050 <blockquote><p>
1051   gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
1052 </p></blockquote>
1053
1054 <p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get</p>
1055
1056 <blockquote><p>
1057 [nothing]
1058 </p></blockquote>
1059
1060 <p>This is for KDE:</p>
1061
1062 <p>Installed using apt-get, missing with aptitude</p>
1063
1064 <blockquote><p>
1065   ksmserver
1066 </p></blockquote>
1067
1068 <p>Installed using apt-get, removed with aptitude</p>
1069
1070 <blockquote><p>
1071   kwin
1072   network-manager-kde
1073 </p></blockquote>
1074
1075 <p>Installed using aptitude, missing with apt-get</p>
1076
1077 <blockquote><p>
1078   arts
1079   dolphin
1080   freespacenotifier
1081   google-gadgets-gst
1082   google-gadgets-xul
1083   kappfinder
1084   kcalc
1085   kcharselect
1086   kde-core
1087   kde-plasma-desktop
1088   kde-standard
1089   kde-window-manager
1090   kdeartwork
1091   kdeartwork-emoticons
1092   kdeartwork-style
1093   kdeartwork-theme-icon
1094   kdebase
1095   kdebase-apps
1096   kdebase-workspace
1097   kdebase-workspace-bin
1098   kdebase-workspace-data
1099   kdeeject
1100   kdelibs
1101   kdeplasma-addons
1102   kdeutils
1103   kdewallpapers
1104   kdf
1105   kfloppy
1106   kgpg
1107   khelpcenter4
1108   kinfocenter
1109   konq-plugins-l10n
1110   konqueror-nsplugins
1111   kscreensaver
1112   kscreensaver-xsavers
1113   ktimer
1114   kwrite
1115   libgle3
1116   libkde4-ruby1.8
1117   libkonq5
1118   libkonq5-templates
1119   libnetpbm10
1120   libplasma-ruby
1121   libplasma-ruby1.8
1122   libqt4-ruby1.8
1123   marble-data
1124   marble-plugins
1125   netpbm
1126   nuvola-icon-theme
1127   plasma-dataengines-workspace
1128   plasma-desktop
1129   plasma-desktopthemes-artwork
1130   plasma-runners-addons
1131   plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets
1132   plasma-scriptengine-python
1133   plasma-scriptengine-qedje
1134   plasma-scriptengine-ruby
1135   plasma-scriptengine-webkit
1136   plasma-scriptengines
1137   plasma-wallpapers-addons
1138   plasma-widget-folderview
1139   plasma-widget-networkmanagement
1140   ruby
1141   sweeper
1142   update-notifier-kde
1143   xscreensaver-data-extra
1144   xscreensaver-gl
1145   xscreensaver-gl-extra
1146   xscreensaver-screensaver-bsod
1147 </p></blockquote>
1148
1149 <p>Installed using aptitude, removed with apt-get</p>
1150
1151 <blockquote><p>
1152   ark
1153   google-gadgets-common
1154   google-gadgets-qt
1155   htdig
1156   kate
1157   kdebase-bin
1158   kdebase-data
1159   kdepasswd
1160   kfind
1161   klipper
1162   konq-plugins
1163   konqueror
1164   ksysguard
1165   ksysguardd
1166   libarchive1
1167   libcln6
1168   libeet1
1169   libeina-svn-06
1170   libggadget-1.0-0b
1171   libggadget-qt-1.0-0b
1172   libgps19
1173   libkdecorations4
1174   libkephal4
1175   libkonq4
1176   libkonqsidebarplugin4a
1177   libkscreensaver5
1178   libksgrd4
1179   libksignalplotter4
1180   libkunitconversion4
1181   libkwineffects1a
1182   libmarblewidget4
1183   libntrack-qt4-1
1184   libntrack0
1185   libplasma-geolocation-interface4
1186   libplasmaclock4a
1187   libplasmagenericshell4
1188   libprocesscore4a
1189   libprocessui4a
1190   libqalculate5
1191   libqedje0a
1192   libqtruby4shared2
1193   libqzion0a
1194   libruby1.8
1195   libscim8c2a
1196   libsmokekdecore4-3
1197   libsmokekdeui4-3
1198   libsmokekfile3
1199   libsmokekhtml3
1200   libsmokekio3
1201   libsmokeknewstuff2-3
1202   libsmokeknewstuff3-3
1203   libsmokekparts3
1204   libsmokektexteditor3
1205   libsmokekutils3
1206   libsmokenepomuk3
1207   libsmokephonon3
1208   libsmokeplasma3
1209   libsmokeqtcore4-3
1210   libsmokeqtdbus4-3
1211   libsmokeqtgui4-3
1212   libsmokeqtnetwork4-3
1213   libsmokeqtopengl4-3
1214   libsmokeqtscript4-3
1215   libsmokeqtsql4-3
1216   libsmokeqtsvg4-3
1217   libsmokeqttest4-3
1218   libsmokeqtuitools4-3
1219   libsmokeqtwebkit4-3
1220   libsmokeqtxml4-3
1221   libsmokesolid3
1222   libsmokesoprano3
1223   libtaskmanager4a
1224   libtidy-0.99-0
1225   libweather-ion4a
1226   libxklavier16
1227   libxxf86misc1
1228   okteta
1229   oxygencursors
1230   plasma-dataengines-addons
1231   plasma-scriptengine-superkaramba
1232   plasma-widget-lancelot
1233   plasma-widgets-addons
1234   plasma-widgets-workspace
1235   polkit-kde-1
1236   ruby1.8
1237   systemsettings
1238   update-notifier-common
1239 </p></blockquote>
1240
1241 <p>Running apt-get autoremove made the results using apt-get and
1242 aptitude a bit more similar, but there are still quite a lott of
1243 differences.  I have no idea what packages should be installed after
1244 the upgrade, but hope those that do can have a look.</p>
1245
1246  </div>
1247  <div class="tags">
1248
1249
1250
1251   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>.
1252
1253  </div>
1254 </div>
1255  <div class="padding"></div>
1256
1257 <div class="entry">
1258  <div class="title">
1259  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/DND_hedrer_overv__kning_av_barn_med_Rosingsprisen.html">DND hedrer overvåkning av barn med Rosingsprisen</a>
1260  </div>
1261  <div class="date">
1262   2010-11-23 14:15
1263  </div>
1264
1265  <div class="body">
1266
1267 <p>Jeg registrerer med vond smak i munnen at Den Norske Dataforening
1268 <a
1269 href="http://www.dataforeningen.no/hedret-med-rosingprisen.4849070-133913.html">hedrer
1270 overvåkning av barn med Rosingsprisen for kreativitet i år</a>.  Jeg
1271 er glad jeg nå er meldt ut av DND.</p>
1272
1273 <p>Å elektronisk overvåke sine barn er ikke å gjøre dem en tjeneste,
1274 men et overgrep mot individer i utvikling som bør læres opp til å ta
1275 egne valg.</p>
1276
1277 <p>For å sitere Datatilsynets nye leder, Bjørn Erik Thon, i
1278 <a href="http://www.idg.no/computerworld/article174262.ece">et intervju
1279 med Computerworld Norge</A>:</p>
1280
1281 <p><blockquote>
1282 - For alle som har barn, meg selv inkludert, er førstetanken at det
1283 hadde vært fint å vite hvor barnet sitt er til enhver tid. Men ungene
1284 har ikke godt av det. De er små individer som skal søke rundt og finne
1285 sine små gjemmesteder og utvide horisonten, uten at foreldrene ser dem
1286 i kortene. Det kan være fristende, men jeg ville ikke gått inn i
1287 dette.
1288 </blockquote></p>
1289
1290 <p>Det er skremmende å se at DND mener en tjeneste som legger opp til
1291 slike overgrep bør hedres.  Å flytte oppveksten for barn inn i en
1292 virtuell
1293 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon">Panopticon</a> er et
1294 grovt overgrep og vil gjøre skade på barnenes utvikling, og foreldre
1295 burde tenke seg godt om før de gir etter for sine instinkter her.</p>
1296
1297 <p>Blipper-tjenesten får meg til å tenke på bøkene til
1298 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Twelve_Hawks">John Twelve
1299 Hawks</a>, som forbilledlig beskriver hvordan et totalitært
1300 overvåkningssamfunn bygges sakte men sikkert rundt oss, satt sammen av
1301 gode intensjoner og manglende bevissthet om hvilke prinsipper et
1302 liberalt demokrati er fundamentert på.  Jeg har hatt stor glede av å
1303 lese alle de tre bøkene.</p>
1304
1305  </div>
1306  <div class="tags">
1307
1308
1309
1310   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet</a>.
1311
1312  </div>
1313 </div>
1314  <div class="padding"></div>
1315
1316 <div class="entry">
1317  <div class="title">
1318  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Why_isn_t_Debian_Edu_using_VLC_.html">Why isn't Debian Edu using VLC?</a>
1319  </div>
1320  <div class="date">
1321   2010-11-27 11:30
1322  </div>
1323
1324  <div class="body">
1325
1326 <p>In the latest issue of Linux Journal, the readers choices were
1327 presented, and the winner among the multimedia player were VLC.
1328 Personally, I like VLC, and it is my player of choice when I first try
1329 to play a video file or stream.  Only if VLC fail will I drag out
1330 gmplayer to see if it can do better.  The reason is mostly the failure
1331 model and trust.  When VLC fail, it normally pop up a error message
1332 reporting the problem.  When mplayer fail, it normally segfault or
1333 just hangs.  The latter failure mode drain my trust in the program.<p>
1334
1335 <p>But even if VLC is my player of choice, we have choosen to use
1336 mplayer in <a href="http://www.skolelinux.org/">Debian
1337 Edu/Skolelinux</a>.  The reason is simple.  We need a good browser
1338 plugin to play web videos seamlessly, and the VLC browser plugin is
1339 not very good.  For example, it lack in-line control buttons, so there
1340 is no way for the user to pause the video.  Also, when I
1341 <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/BrowserMultimedia">last
1342 tested the browser plugins</a> available in Debian, the VLC plugin
1343 failed on several video pages where mplayer based plugins worked.  If
1344 the browser plugin for VLC was as good as the gecko-mediaplayer
1345 package (which uses mplayer), we would switch.</P>
1346
1347 <p>While VLC is a good player, its user interface is slightly
1348 annoying.  The most annoying feature is its inconsistent use of
1349 keyboard shortcuts.  When the player is in full screen mode, its
1350 shortcuts are different from when it is playing the video in a window.
1351 For example, space only work as pause when in full screen mode.  I
1352 wish it had consisten shortcuts and that space also would work when in
1353 window mode.  Another nice shortcut in gmplayer is [enter] to restart
1354 the current video.  It is very nice when playing short videos from the
1355 web and want to restart it when new people arrive to have a look at
1356 what is going on.</p>
1357
1358  </div>
1359  <div class="tags">
1360
1361
1362
1363   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/video">video</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web</a>.
1364
1365  </div>
1366 </div>
1367  <div class="padding"></div>
1368
1369 <div class="entry">
1370  <div class="title">
1371  <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian_Edu_development_gathering_and_General_Assembly_for_FRiSK.html">Debian Edu development gathering and General Assembly for FRiSK</a>
1372  </div>
1373  <div class="date">
1374   2010-11-29 18:40
1375  </div>
1376
1377  <div class="body">
1378
1379 <p>On friday, the first Debian Edu / Skolelinux
1380 <a href="http://www.friprogramvareiskolen.no/Gathering/2010-12-03-05-Oslo">development
1381 gathering</a> in a long time take place here in Oslo, Norway.  I
1382 really look forward to seeing all the good people working on the
1383 Squeeze release.  The gathering is open for everyone interested in
1384 learning more about Debian Edu / Skolelinux.</p>
1385
1386 <p>On Saturday, the Norwegian member organization taking care of
1387 organizing these development gatherings, Fri Programvare i Skolen,
1388 will hold its
1389 <a href="http://friprogramvareiskolen.no/Genfors/2010">General Assembly
1390 for 2010</a>.  Membership is open for all, and currently there are 388
1391 people registered as members.  Last year 32 members cast their vote in
1392 the memberdb based election system.  I hope more people find time to
1393 vote this year.</p>
1394
1395  </div>
1396  <div class="tags">
1397
1398
1399
1400   Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug</a>.
1401
1402  </div>
1403 </div>
1404  <div class="padding"></div>
1405
1406  <p style="text-align: right;"><a href="11.rss"><img src="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/xml.gif" alt="RSS Feed" width="36" height="14"></a></p>
1407
1408
1409
1410 <div id="sidebar">
1411
1412 <h2>Archive</h2>
1413 <ul>
1414
1415 <li>2010
1416 <ul>
1417
1418 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/01/">January (2)</a></li>
1419
1420 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/02/">February (1)</a></li>
1421
1422 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/03/">March (3)</a></li>
1423
1424 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/04/">April (3)</a></li>
1425
1426 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/05/">May (9)</a></li>
1427
1428 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/06/">June (14)</a></li>
1429
1430 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/07/">July (12)</a></li>
1431
1432 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/08/">August (13)</a></li>
1433
1434 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/09/">September (7)</a></li>
1435
1436 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/10/">October (9)</a></li>
1437
1438 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/11/">November (13)</a></li>
1439
1440 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2010/12/">December (4)</a></li>
1441
1442 </ul></li>
1443
1444 <li>2009
1445 <ul>
1446
1447 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/01/">January (8)</a></li>
1448
1449 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/02/">February (8)</a></li>
1450
1451 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/03/">March (12)</a></li>
1452
1453 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/04/">April (10)</a></li>
1454
1455 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/05/">May (9)</a></li>
1456
1457 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/06/">June (3)</a></li>
1458
1459 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/07/">July (4)</a></li>
1460
1461 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/08/">August (3)</a></li>
1462
1463 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/09/">September (1)</a></li>
1464
1465 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/10/">October (2)</a></li>
1466
1467 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/11/">November (3)</a></li>
1468
1469 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2009/12/">December (3)</a></li>
1470
1471 </ul></li>
1472
1473 <li>2008
1474 <ul>
1475
1476 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2008/11/">November (5)</a></li>
1477
1478 <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/archive/2008/12/">December (7)</a></li>
1479
1480 </ul></li>
1481
1482 </ul>
1483
1484
1485
1486 <h2>Tags</h2>
1487 <ul>
1488
1489  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/3d-printer">3d-printer (13)</a></li>
1490
1491  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/amiga">amiga (1)</a></li>
1492
1493  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/aros">aros (1)</a></li>
1494
1495  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bitcoin">bitcoin (1)</a></li>
1496
1497  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/bootsystem">bootsystem (10)</a></li>
1498
1499  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian">debian (44)</a></li>
1500
1501  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/debian edu">debian edu (52)</a></li>
1502
1503  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english (75)</a></li>
1504
1505  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fiksgatami">fiksgatami (1)</a></li>
1506
1507  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/fildeling">fildeling (11)</a></li>
1508
1509  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/kart">kart (5)</a></li>
1510
1511  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ldap">ldap (8)</a></li>
1512
1513  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/lenker">lenker (4)</a></li>
1514
1515  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/ltsp">ltsp (1)</a></li>
1516
1517  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/multimedia">multimedia (11)</a></li>
1518
1519  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/norsk">norsk (93)</a></li>
1520
1521  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/nuug">nuug (114)</a></li>
1522
1523  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/opphavsrett">opphavsrett (18)</a></li>
1524
1525  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern (29)</a></li>
1526
1527  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/reprap">reprap (11)</a></li>
1528
1529  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/robot">robot (4)</a></li>
1530
1531  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/rss">rss (1)</a></li>
1532
1533  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet (21)</a></li>
1534
1535  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sitesummary">sitesummary (3)</a></li>
1536
1537  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/standard">standard (16)</a></li>
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1545  <li><a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/web">web (14)</a></li>
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