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+ <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/">Petter Reinholdtsen</a>
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+ <div class="title">How to talk with your loved ones in private</div>
+ <div class="date"> 7th November 2016</div>
+ <div class="body"><p>A few days ago I ran a very biased and informal survey to get an
+idea about what options are being used to communicate with end to end
+encryption with friends and family. I explicitly asked people not to
+list options only used in a work setting. The background is the
+uneasy feeling I get when using Signal, a feeling shared by others as
+a blog post from Sander Venima about
+<a href="https://sandervenema.ch/2016/11/why-i-wont-recommend-signal-anymore/">why
+he do not recommend Signal anymore</a> (with
+<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12883410">feedback from
+the Signal author available from ycombinator</a>). I wanted an
+overview of the options being used, and hope to include those options
+in a less biased survey later on. So far I have not taken the time to
+look into the individual proposed systems. They range from text
+sharing web pages, via file sharing and email to instant messaging,
+VOIP and video conferencing. For those considering which system to
+use, it is also useful to have a look at
+<a href="https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard">the EFF Secure
+messaging scorecard</a> which is slightly out of date but still
+provide valuable information.</p>
+
+<p>So, on to the list. There were some used by many, some used by a
+few, some rarely used ones and a few mentioned but without anyone
+claiming to use them. Notice the grouping is in realty quite random
+given the biased self selected set of participants. First the ones
+used by many:</p>
+
+<ul>
+
+<li><a href="https://whispersystems.org/">Signal</a></li>
+<li>Email w/<a href="http://openpgp.org/">OpenPGP</a> (Enigmail, GPGSuite,etc)</li>
+<li><a href="https://www.whatsapp.com/">Whatsapp</a></li>
+<li>IRC w/<a href="https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/">OTR</a></li>
+<li>XMPP w/<a href="https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/">OTR</a></li>
+
+</ul>
+
+<p>Then the ones used by a few.</p>
+
+<ul>
+
+<li><a href="https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Main_Page">Mumble</a></li>
+<li>iMessage (included in iOS from Apple)</li>
+<li><a href="https://telegram.org/">Telegram</a></li>
+<li><a href="https://jitsi.org/">Jitsi</a></li>
+<li><a href="https://keybase.io/download">Keybase file</a></li>
+
+</ul>
+
+<p>Then the ones used by even fewer people</p>
+
+<ul>
+
+<li><a href="https://ring.cx/">Ring</a></li>
+<li><a href="https://bitmessage.org/">Bitmessage</a></li>
+<li><a href="https://wire.com/">Wire</a></li>
+<li>VoIP w/<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZRTP">ZRTP</a> or controlled <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Real-time_Transport_Protocol">SRTP</a> (e.g using <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSipSimple">CSipSimple</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linphone">Linphone</a>)</li>
+<li><a href="https://matrix.org/">Matrix</a></li>
+<li><a href="https://kontalk.org/">Kontalk</a></li>
+<li><a href="https://0bin.net/">0bin</a> (encrypted pastebin)</li>
+<li><a href="https://appear.in">Appear.in</a></li>
+<li><a href="https://riot.im/">riot</a></li>
+<li><a href="https://www.wickr.com/">Wickr Me</a></li>
+
+</ul>
+
+<p>And finally the ones mentioned by not marked as used by
+anyone. This might be a mistake, perhaps the person adding the entry
+forgot to flag it as used?</p>
+
+<ul>
+
+<li>Email w/Certificates <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/MIME">S/MIME</a></li>
+<li><a href="https://www.crypho.com/">Crypho</a></li>
+<li><a href="https://cryptpad.fr/">CryptPad</a></li>
+<li><a href="https://github.com/ricochet-im/ricochet">ricochet</a></li>
+
+</ul>
+
+<p>Given the network effect it seem obvious to me that we as a society
+have been divided and conquered by those interested in keeping
+encrypted and secure communication away from the masses. The
+finishing remarks <a href="https://vimeo.com/97505679">from Aral Balkan
+in his talk "Free is a lie"</a> about the usability of free software
+really come into effect when you want to communicate in private with
+your friends and family. We can not expect them to allow the
+usability of communication tool to block their ability to talk to
+their loved ones.</p>
+
+<p>Note for example the option IRC w/OTR. Most IRC clients do not
+have OTR support, so in most cases OTR would not be an option, even if
+you wanted to. In my personal experience, about 1 in 20 I talk to
+have a IRC client with OTR. For private communication to really be
+available, most people to talk to must have the option in their
+currently used client. I can not simply ask my family to install an
+IRC client. I need to guide them through a technical multi-step
+process of adding extensions to the client to get them going. This is
+a non-starter for most.</p>
+
+<p>I would like to be able to do video phone calls, audio phone calls,
+exchange instant messages and share files with my loved ones, without
+being forced to share with people I do not know. I do not want to
+share the content of the conversations, and I do not want to share who
+I communicate with or the fact that I communicate with someone.
+Without all these factors in place, my private life is being more or
+less invaded.</p>
+</div>
+
+ <div class="tags">Tags: <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/english">english</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/personvern">personvern</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/sikkerhet">sikkerhet</a>, <a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/tags/surveillance">surveillance</a>.</div>
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