X-Git-Url: http://pere.pagekite.me/gitweb/homepage.git/blobdiff_plain/d83f03b200ec7ccb25521bc6156bb58b872ae6f7..e81974c19f825da6624e66ef824490f8c47f0af4:/blog/index.rss diff --git a/blog/index.rss b/blog/index.rss index b5870af912..584106140e 100644 --- a/blog/index.rss +++ b/blog/index.rss @@ -6,6 +6,166 @@ http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/ + + Jami as a Zoom client, a trick for password protected rooms... + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Jami_as_a_Zoom_client__a_trick_for_password_protected_rooms___.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Jami_as_a_Zoom_client__a_trick_for_password_protected_rooms___.html + Fri, 8 May 2020 13:30:00 +0200 + <p>Half a year ago, +<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Jami_Ring__finally_functioning_peer_to_peer_communication_client.html">I +wrote</a> about <a href="https://jami.net/">the Jami communication +client</a>, capable of peer-to-peer encrypted communication. It +handle both messages, audio and video. It uses distributed hash +tables instead of central infrastructure to connect its users to each +other, which in my book is a plus. I mentioned briefly that it could +also work as a SIP client, which came in handy when the higher +educational sector in Norway started to promote Zoom as its video +conferencing solution. I am reluctant to use the official Zoom client +software, due to their <a href="https://zoom.us/terms">copyright +license clauses</a> prohibiting users to reverse engineer (for example +to check the security) and benchmark it, and thus prefer to connect to +Zoom meetings with free software clients.</p> + +<p>Jami worked OK as a SIP client to Zoom as long as there was no +password set on the room. The Jami daemon leak memory like crazy +(approximately 1 GiB a minute) when I am connected to the video +conference, so I had to restart the client every 7-10 minutes, which +is not a great. I tried to get other SIP Linux clients to work +without success, so I decided I would have to live with this wart +until someone managed to fix the leak in the dring code base. But +another problem showed up once the rooms were password protected. I +could not get my dial tone signaling through from Jami to Zoom, and +dial tone signaling is used to enter the password when connecting to +Zoom. I tried a lot of different permutations with my Jami and +Asterisk setup to try to figure out why the signaling did not get +through, only to finally discover that the fundamental problem seem to +be that Zoom is simply not able to receive dial tone signaling when +connecting via SIP. There seem to be nothing wrong with the Jami and +Asterisk end, it is simply broken in the Zoom end. I got help from a +very skilled VoIP engineer figuring out this last part. And being a +very skilled engineer, he was also able to locate a solution for me. +Or to be exact, a workaround that solve my initial problem of +connecting to password protected Zoom rooms using Jami.</p> + +<p>So, how do you do this, I am sure you are wondering by now. The +trick is already +<a href="https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/202405539-H-323-SIP-Room-Connector-Dial-Strings#sip">documented +from Zoom</a>, and it is to modify the SIP address to include the room +password. What is most surprising about this is that the +automatically generated email from Zoom with instructions on how to +connect via SIP do not mention this. The SIP address to use normally +consist of the room ID (a number), an @ character and the IP address +of the Zoom SIP gateway. But Zoom understand a lot more than just the +room ID in front of the at sign. The format is "<tt>[Meeting +ID].[Password].[Layout].[Host Key]</tt>", and you can hear see how you +can both enter password, control the layout (full screen, active +presence and gallery) and specify the host key to start the meeting. +The full SIP address entered into Jami to provide the password will +then look like this (all using made up numbers):</p> + +<p><blockquote> +<tt>sip:657837644.522827@192.168.169.170</tt> +</blockquote></p> + +<p>Now if only jami would reduce its memory usage, I could even +recommend this setup to others. :)</p> + +<p>As usual, if you use Bitcoin and want to show your support of my +activities, please send Bitcoin donations to my address +<b><a href="bitcoin:15oWEoG9dUPovwmUL9KWAnYRtNJEkP1u1b">15oWEoG9dUPovwmUL9KWAnYRtNJEkP1u1b</a></b>.</p> + + + + + GnuCOBOL, a free platform to learn and use COBOL - nice free software + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/GnuCOBOL__a_free_platform_to_learn_and_use_COBOL___nice_free_software.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/GnuCOBOL__a_free_platform_to_learn_and_use_COBOL___nice_free_software.html + Wed, 29 Apr 2020 13:10:00 +0200 + <p>The curiosity got the better of me when +<a href="https://developers.slashdot.org/story/20/04/06/1424246/new-jersey-desperately-needs-cobol-programmers">Slashdot +reported</a> that New Jersey was desperately looking for +<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL">COBOL</a> programmers, +and a few days later it was reported that +<a href="https://onezero.medium.com/ibm-rallies-cobol-engineers-to-save-overloaded-unemployment-systems-eeadf13eddce">IBM +tried to locate COBOL programmers</a>.</p> + +<p>I thus decided to have a look at free software alternatives to +learn COBOL, and had the pleasure to find +<a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/open-cobol/">GnuCOBOL</a> was +already <a href="https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gnucobol">in +Debian</a>. It used to be called Open Cobol, and is a "compiler" +transforming COBOL code to C or C++ before giving it to GCC or Visual +Studio to build binaries.</p> + +<p>I managed to get in touch with upstream, and was impressed with the +quick response, and also was happy to see a new Debian maintainer +taking over when the original one recently asked to be replaced. A +new Debian upload was done as recently as yesterday.</p> + +<p>Using the Debian package, I was able to follow a simple COBOL +introduction and make and run simple COBOL programs. It was fun to +learn a new programming language. If you want to test for yourself, +<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GnuCOBOL">the GnuCOBOL Wikipedia +page</a> have a few simple examples to get you startet.</p> + +<p>As I do not have much experience with COBOL, I do not know how +standard compliant it is, but it claim to pass most tests from COBOL +test suite, which sound good to me. It is nice to know it is possible +to learn COBOL using software without any usage restrictions, and I am +very happy such nice free software project as this is available. If +you as me is curious about COBOL, check it out.</p> + +<p>As usual, if you use Bitcoin and want to show your support of my +activities, please send Bitcoin donations to my address +<b><a href="bitcoin:15oWEoG9dUPovwmUL9KWAnYRtNJEkP1u1b">15oWEoG9dUPovwmUL9KWAnYRtNJEkP1u1b</a></b>.</p> + + + + + Totalovervåkning av innbyggernes bevegelser - nei takk! + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Totaloverv_kning_av_innbyggernes_bevegelser___nei_takk_.html + http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Totaloverv_kning_av_innbyggernes_bevegelser___nei_takk_.html + Thu, 16 Apr 2020 20:30:00 +0200 + <p>Jeg er blitt spurt hva jeg synes om lansering av smittestopp-appen, +overvåkningsløsningen lansert av Folkehelseinstituttet, +Simula-senteret og Regjeringen i dag, fulgt av klare trusler fra +regjeringen om konsekvenser hvis befolkningen ikke tar den i bruk. +Rekker ikke skrive noe fyldig om temaet, men det er klart for meg at +den utraderer retten til privatliv samt utgjør en personlig +sikkerhetsrisiko for alle som tar den i bruk. Bare det er nok til at +det fremstår som en svært dårlig ide å bli med på denne "dugnaden". +Det finnes andre og bedre tilnærminger enn den valgt av FHI. Har de +valgt sin tilnærming for å sikre seg nok et datasett i den fremtidige +ehelse-portalen? Potensialet for misbruk av informasjon samlet inn av +appen er for stort, effekten på neste krise for klar og gevinsten for +liten.</p> + +<p>For å si det med forhenværende leder i Datatilsynet, Georg Apenes, +som skrev i en kronikk den gang Datatilsynet vernet +privatsfæren at +«<a href="https://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/rent-mel-i-bilen/66333882">SENTRALT +I en liberal forestillingsverden finner vi aksept av borgerens rett +til å kunne velge å være i fred; å være u-iakttatt, uregistrert og +anonym</a>». Det er ikke uten grunn han startet kronikken med +«Personvern et fremmedord i enkelte av de statsorganene som samler +inn, oppbevarer og bruker personopplysninger». Der har nok +statsorganene bare blitt dårligere på 13 år.</p> + +<p>Det er jo også verdt å merke seg at personvernrådet i EU (EDPB) +mener smittestopp-appen +<a href="https://nrkbeta.no/2020/04/16/personvernrad-i-eu-mener-norsk-app-bryter-med-viktig-personvernprinsipp/">opererer +i strid med prinsippet om dataminimering</a>. Også de ser at det +finnes mye bedre måter å gjøre dette på.</p> + + +<p>Som vanlig, hvis du bruker Bitcoin og ønsker å vise din støtte til +det jeg driver med, setter jeg pris på om du sender Bitcoin-donasjoner +til min adresse +<b><a href="bitcoin:15oWEoG9dUPovwmUL9KWAnYRtNJEkP1u1b">15oWEoG9dUPovwmUL9KWAnYRtNJEkP1u1b</a></b>. +Merk, betaling med bitcoin er ikke anonymt. :)</p> + + + Ny URL til den frie norske stavekontrollen http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Ny_URL_til_den_frie_norske_stavekontrollen.html @@ -145,8 +305,8 @@ start working, but you can have a look at the LaTeX originals here.</p> <p>The first article is "<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2020-02-25-rmj-iot-record-keeping.pdf">A record-keeping approach to managing IoT-data for government -agencies</a>" (<a href="https://doi.org/10.1108/RMJ-09-2019-0056">DOI -10.1108/RMJ-09-2019-0056</a>) by Thomas Sødring, Petter Reinholdtsen +agencies</a>" (<a href="https://doi.org/10.1108/RMJ-09-2019-0050">DOI +10.1108/RMJ-09-2019-0050<a/>) by Thomas Sødring, Petter Reinholdtsen and David Massey, and sketches some approaches for storing measurement data (aka Internet of Things sensor data) in a archive, thus providing a well defined mechanism for screening and deletion of the information </p> @@ -154,8 +314,8 @@ a well defined mechanism for screening and deletion of the information </p> <p>The second article is "<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/images/2020-02-25-rmj-block-chain-record-keeping.pdf">Publishing and using record-keeping structural information in a blockchain</a>" -(<a href="https://doi.org/10.1108/RMJ-09-2019-0050">DOI -10.1108/RMJ-09-2019-0050<a/>) by Thomas Sødring, Petter Reinholdtsen +(<a href="https://doi.org/10.1108/RMJ-09-2019-0056">DOI +10.1108/RMJ-09-2019-0056</a>) by Thomas Sødring, Petter Reinholdtsen and Svein Ølnes, where we describe a way for third parties to validate authenticity and thus improve trust in the records kept in a archive.</p> @@ -163,6 +323,9 @@ archive.</p> <p>As usual, if you use Bitcoin and want to show your support of my activities, please send Bitcoin donations to my address <b><a href="bitcoin:15oWEoG9dUPovwmUL9KWAnYRtNJEkP1u1b">15oWEoG9dUPovwmUL9KWAnYRtNJEkP1u1b</a></b>.</p> + +<p><strong>Update 2020-04-26</strong>: Initially managed to swap the +DOI numbers. Fixed it.</p> @@ -314,239 +477,5 @@ Merk, betaling med bitcoin er ikke anonymt. :)</p> - - When terms and policy turn users away - http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/When_terms_and_policy_turn_users_away.html - http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/When_terms_and_policy_turn_users_away.html - Sat, 7 Dec 2019 21:15:00 +0100 - <p>When asked to accept terms of use and privacy policies that state -it will to remove rights I otherwise had or accept unreasonable terms -undermining my privacy, I choose away the service. I simply do not -have the conscience to accept terms I have no indention of upholding. -But how are the system and service providers to know how many people -they scared away? Normally I just quietly walk away. But today, I -tried a new approach. I sent the following email (removing the -specifics, as I am not out to take the specific service in question) -to the service provider I decided to not use, to at least give them -one data point on how many users are unhappy with their terms:</p> - -<blockquote> -From: Petter Reinholdtsen -<br>Subject: When terms of use turn users away -<br>To: [contact@some.site] -<br>Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2019 16:30:56 +0100 - -<p>Dear [Site Owner],</p> - -<p>I was eager to test the system, as it seemed like a fun and -interesting application of [some] technology, but after reading the -terms of use and privacy policy on &lt;URL: -https://www.[some.site]/terms-of-use &gt; and &lt;URL: -https://www.[some.site]/privacy-policy &gt; I want you to know that I -decided to turn away. There were several provisions in the terms and -policy turning me off, but the final term that convinced me was being -asked to sign away my right to reverse engineer.</p> - -<p>-- -<br>Happy hacking -<br>Petter Reinholdtsen</p> -</blockquote> - -<p>I do not expect much to come out of it, but sharing it here in case -others want to give something similar a try too. If companies -discover their terms scare away enough people, perhaps they will be -improved...</p> - -<p>As usual, if you use Bitcoin and want to show your support of my -activities, please send Bitcoin donations to my address -<b><a href="bitcoin:15oWEoG9dUPovwmUL9KWAnYRtNJEkP1u1b">15oWEoG9dUPovwmUL9KWAnYRtNJEkP1u1b</a></b>.</p> - - - - - What would it cost to store all 2018 phone calls in Norway? - http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/What_would_it_cost_to_store_all_2018_phone_calls_in_Norway_.html - http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/What_would_it_cost_to_store_all_2018_phone_calls_in_Norway_.html - Mon, 25 Nov 2019 20:15:00 +0100 - <p>Four years ago, I did a back of the envelope calculation on -<a href="http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/What_would_it_cost_to_store_all_phone_calls_in_Norway_.html">how -much it would cost to store audio recordings of all the phone calls in -Norway</a>, and came up with NOK 2.1 million / EUR 250 000 for the -year 2013. It is time to repeat the calculation using updated -numbers. The calculation is based on how much data storage is needed -for each minute of audio, how many minutes all the calls in Norway -sums up to, multiplied by the cost of data storage.</p> - -<p>The number of phone call minutes for 2018 was fetched from -<a href="https://ekomstatistikken.nkom.no/">the NKOM statistics -site</a>, and for 2018, land line calls are listed as 434 238 000 -minutes, while mobile phone calls are listed with 7 542 006 000 -minutes. The total number of minutes is thus 7 976 244 000. For -simplicity, I decided to ignore any advantages in audio compression the -last four years, and continue to assume 60 Kbytes/min as the last -time.</p> - -<p>Storage prices still varies a lot, but as last time, I decide to -take a reasonable big and cheap hard drive, and double its price to -include the surrounding costs into account. A 10 TB disk cost less -than 4500 NOK / 450 EUR these days, and doubling it give 9000 NOK per -10 TB.</p> - -<p>So, with the parameters in place, lets update the old table -estimating cost for calls in a given year:</p> - -<table border="1"> -<tr><th>Year</th><th>Call minutes</th><th>Size</th><th>Price in NOK / EUR</th></tr> -<tr><td>2005</td><td align="right">24 000 000 000</td><td align="right">1.3 PiB</td><td align="right">1 170 000 / 117 000</td></tr> - -<tr><td>2012</td><td align="right">18 000 000 000</td><td align="right">1.0 PiB</td><td align="right">900 000 / 90 000</td></tr> - -<tr><td>2013</td><td align="right">17 000 000 000</td><td align="right">950 TiB</td><td align="right">855 000 / 85 500</td></tr> - -<tr><td>2018</td><td align="right">7 976 244 000</td><td align="right">445 TiB</td><td align="right">401 100 / 40 110</td></tr> -</table> - -<p>Both the cost of storage and the number of phone call minutes have -dropped since the last time, bringing the cost down to a level where I -guess even small organizations can afford to store the audio recording -from every phone call taken in a year in Norway. Of course, this is -just the cost of buying the storage equipment. Maintenance, need to -be included as well, but the volume of a single year is about a single -rack of hard drives, so it is not much more than I could fit in my own -home. Wonder how much the electricity bill would raise if I had that -kind of storage? I doubt it would be more than a few tens of thousand -NOK per year.</p> - - - - - Norwegian movies that might be legal to share on the Internet - http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Norwegian_movies_that_might_be_legal_to_share_on_the_Internet.html - http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Norwegian_movies_that_might_be_legal_to_share_on_the_Internet.html - Sun, 1 Sep 2019 11:10:00 +0200 - <p>While working on identifying and counting movies that can be -legally shared on the Internet, I also looked at the Norwegian movies -listed in IMDb. So far I have identified 54 candidates published -before 1940 that might no longer be protected by norwegian copyright -law. Of these, only 29 are available at least in part from the -Norwegian National Library. It can be assumed that the remaining 25 -movies are lost. It seem most useful to identify the copyright status -of movies that are not lost. To verify that the movie is really no -longer protected, one need to verify the list of copyright holders and -figure out if and when they died. I've been able to identify some of -them, but for some it is hard to figure out when they died.</p> - -</p>This is the list of 29 movies both available from the library and -possibly no longer protected by copyright law. The year range -(1909-1979 on the first line) is year of publication and last year -with copyright protection.</p> - -<pre> -1909-1979 ( 70 year) NSB Bergensbanen 1909 - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0347601/ -1910-1980 ( 70 year) Bjørnstjerne Bjørnsons likfærd - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt9299304/ -1910-1980 ( 70 year) Bjørnstjerne Bjørnsons begravelse - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt9299300/ -1912-1998 ( 86 year) Roald Amundsens Sydpolsferd (1910-1912) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt9237500/ -1913-2006 ( 93 year) Roald Amundsen på sydpolen - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0347886/ -1917-1987 ( 70 year) Fanden i nøtten - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0346964/ -1919-2018 ( 99 year) Historien om en gut - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0010259/ -1920-1990 ( 70 year) Kaksen på Øverland - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0011361/ -1923-1993 ( 70 year) Norge - en skildring i 6 akter - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0014319/ -1925-1997 ( 72 year) Roald Amundsen - Ellsworths flyveekspedition 1925 - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0016295/ -1925-1995 ( 70 year) En verdensreise, eller Da knold og tott vaskede negrene hvite med 13 sæpen - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1018948/ -1926-1996 ( 70 year) Luftskibet 'Norge's flugt over polhavet - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0017090/ -1926-1996 ( 70 year) Med 'Maud' over Polhavet - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0017129/ -1927-1997 ( 70 year) Den store sultan - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1017997/ -1928-1998 ( 70 year) Noahs ark - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1018917/ -1928-1998 ( 70 year) Skjæbnen - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1002652/ -1928-1998 ( 70 year) Chefens cigarett - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1019896/ -1929-1999 ( 70 year) Se Norge - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0020378/ -1929-1999 ( 70 year) Fra Chr. Michelsen til Kronprins Olav og Prinsesse Martha - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0019899/ -1930-2000 ( 70 year) Mot ukjent land - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0021158/ -1930-2000 ( 70 year) Det er natt - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1017904/ -1930-2000 ( 70 year) Over Besseggen på motorcykel - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0347721/ -1931-2001 ( 70 year) Glimt fra New York og den Norske koloni - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0021913/ -1932-2007 ( 75 year) En glad gutt - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022946/ -1934-2004 ( 70 year) Den lystige radio-trio - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1002628/ -1935-2005 ( 70 year) Kronprinsparets reise i Nord Norge - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0268411/ -1935-2005 ( 70 year) Stormangrep - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1017998/ -1936-2006 ( 70 year) En fargesymfoni i blått - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1002762/ -1939-2009 ( 70 year) Til Vesterheimen - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032036/ -</pre> - -To be sure which one of these can be legally shared on the Internet, -in addition to verifying the right holders list is complete, one need -to verify the death year of these persons: - -<pre> -Bjørnstjerne Bjørnson (dead 1910) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0085085/ -Gustav Adolf Olsen (missing death year) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0647652/ -Gustav Lund (missing death year) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0526168/ -John W. Brunius (dead 1937) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0116307/ -Ola Cornelius (missing death year) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1227236/ -Oskar Omdal (dead 1927) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3116241/ -Paul Berge (missing death year) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0074006/ -Peter Lykke-Seest (dead 1948) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0528064/ -Roald Amundsen (dead 1928) - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0025468/ -Sverre Halvorsen (dead 1936) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1299757/ -Thomas W. Schwartz (missing death year) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2616250/ -</pre> - -<p>Perhaps you can help me figuring death year of those missing it, or -right holders if some are missing in IMDb? It would be nice to have a -definite list of Norwegian movies that are legal to share on the -Internet.</p> - -</p>This is the list of 25 movies not available from the library and -possibly no longer protected by copyright law:</p> - -<pre> -1907-2009 (102 year) Fiskerlivets farer - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121288/ -1912-2018 (106 year) Historien omen moder - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0382852/ -1912-2002 ( 90 year) Anny - en gatepiges roman - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0002026/ -1916-1986 ( 70 year) The Mother Who Paid - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3619226/ -1917-2018 (101 year) En vinternat - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0008740/ -1917-2018 (101 year) Unge hjerter - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0008719/ -1917-2018 (101 year) De forældreløse - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0007972/ -1918-2018 (100 year) Vor tids helte - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0009769/ -1918-2018 (100 year) Lodsens datter - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0009314/ -1919-2018 ( 99 year) Æresgjesten - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0010939/ -1921-2006 ( 85 year) Det nye year? - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0347686/ -1921-1991 ( 70 year) Under Polarkredsens himmel - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0012789/ -1923-1993 ( 70 year) Nordenfor polarcirkelen - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0014318/ -1925-1995 ( 70 year) Med 'Stavangerfjord' til Nordkap - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0016098/ -1926-1996 ( 70 year) Over Atlanterhavet og gjennem Amerika - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0017241/ -1926-1996 ( 70 year) Hallo! Amerika! - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0016945/ -1926-1996 ( 70 year) Tigeren Teodors triumf - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1008052/ -1927-1997 ( 70 year) Rød sultan - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1017979/ -1927-1997 ( 70 year) Søndagsfiskeren Flag - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1018002/ -1930-2000 ( 70 year) Ro-ro til fiskeskjær - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1017973/ -1933-2003 ( 70 year) I kongens klær - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0024164/ -1934-2004 ( 70 year) Eventyret om de tre bukkene bruse - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1007963/ -1934-2004 ( 70 year) Pål sine høner - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1017966/ -1937-2007 ( 70 year) Et mesterverk - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1019937/ -1938-2008 ( 70 year) En Harmony - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1007975/ -</pre> - -<p>Several of these movies completely lack right holder information in -IMDb and elsewhere. Without access to a copy of the movie, it is -often impossible to get the list of people involved in making the -movie, making it impossible to figure out the correct copyright -status.</p> - -<p>Not listed here are the movies still protected by copyright law. -Their copyright terms varies from 79 to 144 years, according to the -information I have available so far. One of the non-lost movies might -change status next year, -<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1008007/">Mustads Mono from 1920</a>. -The next one might be -<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0347215/">Hvor isbjørnen ferdes -from 1935</a> in 2024.</p> - -<p>As usual, if you use Bitcoin and want to show your support of my -activities, please send Bitcoin donations to my address -<b><a href="bitcoin:15oWEoG9dUPovwmUL9KWAnYRtNJEkP1u1b">15oWEoG9dUPovwmUL9KWAnYRtNJEkP1u1b</a></b>.</p> - - -