Inspired by the interview series conducted by Raphael, I started a -Norwegian interview series with people involved in the Debian Edu / -Skolelinux community. This was so popular that I believe it is time -to move to a more international audience.
- -While Debian Edu and -Skolelinux originated in France and Norway, and have most users in -Europe, there are users all around the globe. One of those far away -from me is Nigel Barker, a long time Debian Edu system administrator -and contributor. It is thanks to him that Debian Edu is adjusted to -work out of the box in Japan. I got him to answer a few questions, -and am happy to share the response with you. :) - +
+It take all kind of contributions to create a Linux distribution +like Debian Edu / Skolelinux, +and this time I lend the ear to Justin B. Rye, who is listed as a big +contributor to the +Debian +Edu Squeeze release manual.
Who are you, and how do you spend your days?
-My name is Nigel Barker, and I am British. I am married to Yumiko, -and we have three lovely children, aged 15, 14 and 4(!) I am the IT -Coordinator at Hiroshima International School, Japan. I am also a -teacher, and in fact I spend most of my day teaching Mathematics, -Science, IT, and Chemistry. I was originally a Chemistry teacher, but -I have always had an interest in computers. Another teacher teaches -primary school IT, but apart from that I am the only computer person, -so that means I am the network manager, technician and webmaster, -also, and I help people with their computer problems. I teach python -to beginners in an after-school club. I am way too busy, so I really -appreciate the simplicity of Skolelinux.
+I'm a 44-year-old linguistics graduate living in Edinburgh who has +occasionally been employed as a sysadmin.
How did you get in contact with the Skolelinux/Debian Edu project?
-In around 2004 or 5 I discovered the ltsp project, and set up a -server in the IT lab. I wanted some way to connect it to our central -samba server, which I was also quite poor at configuring. I discovered -Edubuntu when it came out, but it didn't really improve my setup. I -did various desperate searches for things like "school Linux server" -and ended up in a document called "Drift" something or other. Reading -there it became clear that Skolelinux was going to solve all my -problems in one go. I was very excited, but apprehensive, because my -previous attempts to install Debian had ended in failure (I used -Mandrake for everything - ltsp, samba, apache, mail, ns...). I -downloaded a beta version, had some problems, so subscribed to the -Debian Edu list for help. I have remained subscribed ever since, and -my school has run a Skolelinux network since Sarge.
+I'm neither a developer nor a Skolelinux/Debian Edu user! The only +reason my name's in the credits for the documentation is that I hang +around on debian-l10n-english waiting for people to mention things +they'd like a native English speaker to proofread... So I did a sweep +through the wiki for typos and Norglish and inconsistent spellings of +"localisation".
What do you see as the advantages of Skolelinux/Debian Edu?
-For me the integrated setup. This is not just the server, or the -workstation, or the ltsp. Its all of them, and its all configured -ready to go. I read somewhere in the early documentation that it is -designed to be setup and managed by the Maths or Science teacher, who -doesn't necessarily know much about computers, in a small Norwegian -school. That describes me perfectly if you replace Norway with -Japan.
-What do you see as the disadvantages of Skolelinux/Debian Edu?
-The desktop is fairly plain. If you compare it with Edubuntu, who -have fun themes for children, or with distributions such as Mint, who -make the desktop beautiful. They create a good impression on people -who don't need to understand how to use any of it, but who might be -important to the school. School administrators or directors, for -instance, or parents. Even kids. Debian itself usually has ugly -default theme settings. It was my dream a few years back that some -kind of integration would allow Edubuntu to do the desktop stuff and -Debian Edu the servers, but now I realise how impossible that is. A -second disadvantage is that if something goes wrong, or you need to -customise something, then suddenly the level of expertise required -multiplies. For example, backup wasn't working properly in Lenny. It -took me ages to learn how to set up my own server to do rsync backups. -I am afraid of anything to do with ldap, but perhaps Gosa will -help.
+These questions are too hard for me - I don't use it! In fact I +had hardly any contact with I.T. until long after I'd got out of the +education system.
+ +I can tell you the advantages of Debian for me though: it soaks up +as much of my free time as I want and no more, and lets me do +everything I want a computer for without ever forcing me to spend +money on the latest hardware.
Which free software do you use daily?
-Nowadays I only use Debian on my personal computers. I have one for -studio work (I play guitar and write songs), running AV Linux -(customised Debian) a netbook running Squeeze, and a bigger laptop -still running Skolelinux Lenny workstation. I have a Tjener in my -house, that's very useful for the family photos and music. At school -the students only use Skolelinux. (Some teachers and the office still -have windows). So that means we only use free software all day every -day. Open office, The GIMP, Firefox/Iceweasel, VLC and Audacity are -installed on every computer in school, irrespective of OS. We also -have Koha on Debian for the library, and Apache, Moodle, b2evolution -and Etomite on Debian for the www. The firewall is Untangle.
+I've been using Debian since Rex; popularity-contest says the +software that I use most is xinit, xterm, and xulrunner (in other +words, I use a distinctly retro sort of desktop).
Which strategy do you believe is the right one to use to get schools to use free software?
-Current trends are in our favour. Open source is big in industry, -and ordinary people have heard of it. The spread of Android and the -popularity of Apple have helped to weaken the impression that you have -to have Microsoft on everything. People complain to me much less about -file formats and Word than they did 5 years ago. The Edu aspect is -also a selling point. This is all customised for schools. Where is the -Windows-edu, or the Mac-edu? But of course the main attraction is -budget.The trick is to convince people that the quality is not -compromised when you stop paying and use free software instead. That -is one reason why I say the desktop experience is a weakness. People -are not impressed when their USB drive doesn't work, or their browser -doesn't play flash, for example.
+Well, I don't know. I suppose I'd be inclined to try reasoning +with the people who make the decisions, but obviously if that worked +you would hardly need a strategy.