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+		<title>When web browser developers make a video player...</title>
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+                <pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:50:00 +0100</pubDate>
+		<description>
+&lt;p&gt;As part of the work we do in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nuug.no&quot;&gt;NUUG&lt;/a&gt;
+to publish video recordings of our monthly presentations, we provide a
+page with embedded video for easy access to the recording.  Putting a
+good set of HTML tags together to get working embedded video in all
+browsers and across all operating systems is not easy.  I hope this
+will become easier when the &amp;lt;video&amp;gt; tag is implemented in all
+browsers, but I am not sure.  We provide the recordings in several
+formats, MPEG1, Ogg Theora, H.264 and Quicktime, and want the
+browser/media plugin to pick one it support and use it to play the
+recording, using whatever embed mechanism the browser understand.
+There is at least four different tags to use for this, the new HTML5
+&amp;lt;video&amp;gt; tag, the &amp;lt;object&amp;gt; tag, the &amp;lt;embed&amp;gt; tag and
+the &amp;lt;applet&amp;gt; tag.  All of these take a lot of options, and
+finding the best options is a major challenge.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;I just tested the experimental Opera browser available from &lt;a
+href=&quot;http://labs.opera.com&quot;&gt;labs.opera.com&lt;/a&gt;, to see how it handled
+a &amp;lt;video&amp;gt; tag with a few video sources and no extra attributes.
+I was not very impressed.  The browser start by fetching a picture
+from the video stream.  Not sure if it is the first frame, but it is
+definitely very early in the recording.  So far, so good. Next,
+instead of streaming the 76 MiB video file, it start to download all
+of it, but do not start to play the video.  This mean I have to wait
+for several minutes for the downloading to finish.  When the download
+is done, the playing of the video do not start!  Waiting for the
+download, but I do not get to see the video?  Some testing later, I
+discover that I have to add the controls=&quot;true&quot; attribute to be able
+to get a play button to pres to start the video.  Adding
+autoplay=&quot;true&quot; did not help.  I sure hope this is a misfeature of the
+test version of Opera, and that future implementations of the
+&amp;lt;video&amp;gt; tag will stream recordings by default, or at least start
+playing when the download is done.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;The test page I used (since changed to add more attributes) is
+&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nuug.no/aktiviteter/20090113-foredrag-om-foredrag/&quot;&gt;available
+from the nuug site&lt;/a&gt;.  Will have to test it with the new Firefox
+too.&lt;/p&gt;
+
+&lt;p&gt;In the test process, I discovered a missing feature.  I was unable
+to find a way to get the URL of the playing video out of Opera, so I
+am not quite sure it picked the Ogg Theora version of the video.  I
+sure hope it was using the announced Ogg Theora support. :)&lt;/p&gt;
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